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He aaaaaalmost got it right at the beginning. "Hey isn't that the guy who played the Emperor in ROTJ? Naw, naw that isn't him, nvm I'm just seeing things." lmao
And in the behind the scenes footage you could see poor Ewan's hands were bandaged up almost constantly in their training, but Hayden's usually weren't. Sounds like SOMEONE might've been a little less proficient in his saber skills... (I'm just teasing, but Ewan did seem to get his kuhnuckles roughed up pretty badly)
@@muigokublack6487 also the cruelty of the jedi. They have to give up the people that they love and be emotionless to be a jedi Thats why the jedi and the sith were the problem of their own downfall
@@miguelorozco4445 Wrong. They don't have to be emotionless. They have to control their emotions. Huge difference. Obi wan said himself that he viewed anakin like a brother which means he truly cared about him and had emotions for him. Obi wan wept when qui gon died. Even yoda felt immense anguish when his fellow jedi were being slaughtered. Being a jedi is similar to making the life long intentional decision to be celibate so you can focus on other aspects of life. In other words if you choose to be celibate it doesn't mean you don't care about others but if your focus is for the common good in general building your own romantic relationships can distract you from that focus. Not to mention the fact that you can leave the jedi order at any point and they wont hold that against you. The problem with the jedi is that through centuries of peace and prosperity they became aimless and eventually got wrapped up in political affairs which poisoned their ideals. The jedi had become naive but cruelty is not the word i would use to describe them under any circumstances. When it comes to the jedi vs sith comparison they arent even in the same stratosphere morally speaking. The sith at their core are cannibalistic in how they operate and they despise each other almost as much as their sworn enemies. Sith pride themselves on emotional rebelliousness, greed, envy, and monopolizing authority and power by any means necessary even if it means murdering children in cold blood or wiping entire planets of its life. Their end goal is purposeless and fruitless. Anakin hadnt even made it two days as a sith and already his goal to achieve power to save padme went up in flames. And if you think palpatine was ever going to help anakin save padme you're a fool. There is a reason palpatine grinned when telling vader he killed padme.
53:20 Well, C-3PO did get wiped - but R2 wasn't. And that's the reason why he's so disobedient in the Original Trilogy and never stays with the Ship when he's told to do so: The last time he was told to do so, he lost his Master, his friend - he is quite literally traumatized.
One thing I love, Anakin tells R2 to stay at the ship before he kills the Separatist leaders, and Anakin never comes back afterwards, and in the original trilogy, every time Luke tells R2 to "stay at the ship" he never does. This could potentially be accurate bc he never had his memory wiped like Goldman/C-3PO, but has never been confirmed that I'm aware.
You are correct R2 remembered that those were Anakin's last words to him and was worried that the same thing might happen to Luke. Therefore, he never left his side even while Luke was talking to Yoda R2 was right outside keeping an eye on what was going on.
50:00 I think by this point Anakin realizes how severely he messed up with his choices… He realizes that he has ruined his own life and destroyed everything he cared about. But by this point he is too far gone to turn back. Palpatine and the Sith are literally all he has left at this point. So my personal interpretation is that the rest of his life, as Darth Vader, is spent partially as a form of penance- in servitude to Palpatine not necessarily out of dedication to the Sith, but out of self-hatred.
I think at that point anakin still hopes it will turn out okay. As he says on mustafar, hes doing evil act but plans on killing palpatine. He only gives up when he wake up and padme is dead and hes hopeless.
Padme's last words "I know there's good in him" Anakin's last words "you were right" he's talking to Luke, who also saw he had good in him, but it's almost symbolic of him answering Padme's final words instead.
@Algorythmfpv - I was today years old when I considered this - great thought! Luke had no memory of his mother, but Obi-Wan was holding Luke as he leaned in to hear Padme's dying words, perhaps those very words imprinted deep in the mind of the force-sensitive baby Luke, only to rise to the surface all those years later when Luke meets Vader & the galaxys most famous revelation is made! I'm gonna hold on to the thought that while she was talking to Obi-Wan, Padme actually subconsciously told her son to save his father!
@@jez76 They are Anakin's offspring after-all. Their connection to the Force was extremely strong. Remember that she also told Luke that she knew all along, but couldn't explain how, that Luke was her brother. It's also entirely possible that she was referring to Bail Organa's wife, which I can't recall if she died or something when Leia was young, but you do see her holding Leia at the end of the movie. If its Padme she is talking about then it has to be the force because she was literally a freshly born, premature baby.
I hated how annoying Anakin was in AOTC but Anakin in ROTS was so likable and was so sad to see him turn to the dark side right after. Hayden really did a good job from transitioning from a broken boy to the most evil villain in history. Looking back nearly 2 decades later, Anakin is one of the most flawed yet perfect characters.
@@AlexX-vn5sw i think he was supposed to be annoying. Imagine if you are a teen with so much powers and everyone is saying he is the chosen one. And on top of that he was missing his mom who later died in the movie . I think almost every 19 year old would be annoying in that situation
Dude your snap analysis of the light and shadows on Anakin and Yoda’s faces during their conversation was absolute money. Never seen someone understand that part so quickly, the force is with you 🫡
Omg yes! 🤤 I fell in love with Obi-Wan Kenobi when I was 6 years old when I watched The Phantom Menace for the first time. ❤️ I've loved him ever since. I even named my dog Kenobi. Lol I can't wait to re-live the experience next month when I go see The Phantom Menace in theaters again for its 25th year anniversary.
Fun fact, all because of that one line about Anakin thinking grevious would be taller, and grevious thinking Anakin would be older, which implies they haven’t met, Throughout all of the animated clone wars series, they made sure Grevious and Anakin never crossed paths, just to not break canon
It's important to note that only C3PO's mind was wiped, because Senator Organa's translator droid having knowledge of Vader's children was obviously considered a risk. R2, however, remembers everything, which is why in Star Wars Episode IV:A New Hope, he remembers Obi Wan but C3PO is completely oblivious.
Yeah not only was it just a general security risk having him retain the knowledge in case he was captured, but C-3PO quite literally never can keep his mouth shut and would probably have spilled the beans without anyone prompting it out of him.
40:30 if I remember correctly ewan mcgregor covers his mouth cause every time he said his line “anakin has killed the younglings” he couldn’t help but laugh
In the Novelization for this movie, when Gunray says Sidious said they’d be left in peace, Anakin drops the coldest fucking line: “The transmission was garbled, he said you’d be left in *pieces*.”
Matthew Stover did such an amazing novelisation - so beautifully written, even though some of it can't be canon anymore, it'll always be on my bookshelf.
@@dudemdlI own the Audiobook and I love the way they characterize the relationship between Anakin and Padmé, and the metaphor of the Dead Star Dragon that represents Anakins fear, anger, guilt etc.
I still love when Palpatine told Anakin to leave Obi-Wan (during opening rescue). Anakin say "his fate will be the same as ours." All three die on Death Stars.
I love the fact that in the end, the prophecy was true, it only didn't play out like the Jedi had planned. He did kill the Sith and he did bring balance to the force, with the help of his son in Return of The Jedi. It was an event that just wasn't destined to be in *their* lifetimes.
You could also interpret it as Anakin brought balance by being instrumental in leaving two Sith and two Jedi left. Before all the spinoffs with a bunch of other Jedi/Sith popping out anywhere. You could say no one realized "Bring balance to the Force" meant there were just WAY too many Jedi, disrupting the balance
That's not at all how it goes in the reality of Star Wars however. Lucas explained it was the elimination of the Sith. In your headcanon fine but that's not the actual explanation.@@jojackmcgurk4499
In the end, they were too high on their horses to see how their downfall would come. They didn't want the force to balance itself on its own, they wanted the force to balance on how THEY wanted it to. In the end, the evil creeps in once you are selfish and try doing things your way instead of letting the universe play out how it's going to play out, and playing your role in the grand scheme of the universe (or some higher power, depends on what you believe). Both Anakin and the Jedi fall to evil in this way. I mostly feel bad for yoda. Clearly he had enough time and devotion to the Jedi order to have faith in it and believe that it's the true good of the galaxy and cannot in any way shape or form be bad. I think the majority of the Jedi believed this. Especially during the clone wars. If yoda has seen and felt the same things Anakin did, I 100% believe that he would change the Jedi order for good, so that more people like Anakin feel more assured in the order. But, he didn't. So that 800+ years of the Jedi devotion was driving his beliefs just like every other time in his life, and it seemed to have worked out. But Anakin was different. Yoda couldn't do the same things he's done for years with Anakin. Something had to be different for Anakin to end a chapter of the galaxy, and to open up a new one. Sorry for the long rant, I'll end it here or else I won't shut up for the next 3 hours. I just love this movie, and the more I think about it, the better it gets.
@@jojackmcgurk4499 this interpretation is largely viewed as wrong and the only real in universe thing that could be viewed as supporting this meaningfully is the mortis. Jedi seek to live in harmony with the force while the Sith twist it and act against life. The Jedi lost their way in service of life and so either Anakin would have destroyed Palpatine and revitalized a Jedi order which had grown to fear attachment to learn to love life in all its forms, or the Jedi would reject the Chosen One and need to be destroyed so that his son would create a new order which could learn the redemptive powers of love.
What a pleasure it is to watch someone watch these films with an untainted point of view and without all the baggage of hate, and able to see them for the great cinema they actually are.
@@coreymoore2719 It's best when you don't have a childhood that's been "ruined" ... But it's honestly sad when kids who became fans with the prequels turned on them when they grew up. I was in a theatre seat in 1977 and I loved I-III.
Im not tryna be a hater because I genuinely like these movies for what they are but they are absolutely objectively NOT great cinema. There is so much wrong with them from technical standpoints.
man palpatine really said "Yeah it's fuckin lit 🔥 over here on the dark ⚫ side. All the cool kids are learning how to save their loved ones ❤from dying"
Part of the reason Anakin was so determined to save Padme was last time he started getting visions of his mother suffering and dying he ignored them only to find he could have saved her if he'd acted right away, so when he started seeing Padme in the same situation obviously his first instinct would be to act right away, but this time it is because he didn't ignore the visions that it came to pass. The force kind of screwed Anakin over in a sense
In the comics, the visions of Padme dying were sent by the Emperor to make Anakin easier to convert. I'm not sure if that survived the de-canonization process.
@@TheRawrnstuff In the comics Palpatine did manipulate Anakin's life since the very beginning (I forgot what comics but there's a valid reasons why Anakin's downfall and Palpatine winning the game chess).
@@VergilTheMotivatedKatanaManHe manipulated absolutely everything involved tbf, the separatists who attack his home planet, his own rise to power in the senate, the clone army and an extremely intentional droid army, so much more
@@VergilTheMotivatedKatanaManit goes back even further too, if you read the plagueis novel shmi getting pregnant was the force's response to plagueis and sidious attempting to bring someone back to life. the force didn't like them using their dark side power to ignore the cycle of life and so it responded by creating the being who was meant to bring balance to the force edit to add: i do highly recommend reading this novel. super well written and adds a ton of background information and context to enhance the story of sidious and episode 1 in general
Alex its sadder when you think about how happy Anikin was about being a father. Only to think that he killed his wife and child. Then when he finds out his son is alive, and didn't know he also had a daughter. Just that level of heartbreak is tremendous.
And after watching Obi-wan, bro that’s your daughter right fucking there you can’t tell? Or in episode 4 bruh that’s your daughter you have captured you can’t tell.
But she wasn't holding her breath. We never see Vader learn that "Luke's Sister," is Leia. He didn't just have her captured. He actively tortured her for information and she didn't break. Also, remember the time he choked his pregnant wife out on a volcano sulphur planet?
Cannot wait for you to see slow turn into evil ani goes through throughout Clone Wars. With Ashoka, The council secrets, his jealousy, the political backstabbing, the mandorlian drama, the loss of his humanity and his love for the war. God Clone Wars makes the prequels a 100x better imo.
I enjoy the Clone Wars but all the people that didn't see the obvious character growth & all the great silent acting Hayden does just make me think too many need to be spoonfed every detail. The prequels do not need the animated shows, it's all there
Loved it when I watched this in theaters. My jaw dropped when I heard it. Never thought such a stately, well-mannered old man was capable of making such an unholy noise like that.
I read somewhere that the reason the masters that came to arrest him all fell so easily/effortlessly was because his scream severed their connection to the force temporarily. It's like even the FORCE ITSELF was terrified and retreated away from the room. I also personally think the reason it didn't affect Windu in the same way is because Windu is known to be balancing perfectly between both light and dark side in his techniques and fighting.
46:55 - Part of the reason the scene looks so good is that they took advantage of an active volcanic eruption during the filming of the movie, and sent a 2nd unit to get footage which was composited along with the live action fight, and CGI. Fire and water are two of the hardest effects to do convincingly in CGI (especially at the time this movie was made), so the footage of actual lava really helps sell the scene. There's a neat BTS feature available on how they made this scene.
Have you seen the clone wars animation from Hello there yet. I suggest you watch it they did an amazing job recreating the fight in a clone wars style.
It's crazy to think all of this CGI is almost 20 years old now, but it's still timeless. 50:19 Yes Alex, she actually did die from a broken heart. Also of you didn't know, Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's (Leia) mom did die from a broken heart in real life. RIP you two, you are true legends.
I don’t think I saw anyone talk about Grievous’s cough, so here is the context. Prior to the release of Episode 3, there was a 25 episode original Clone Wars show whose final episode, which aired like 2 months before the movie, was the chancellor being captured on Coruscaunt. While attempting to stop the capture, Mace Windu reaches out through the force and crushes Grievous’s lungs. So the cough, which is often mistaken as a sickness, is really just part of his Cybrog body being damaged.
That's such an underappreciated miniseries. Great animation and insane directing. Grevious' introduction scene is one of the best things Star Wars has ever produced.
Grevious was flesh and blood before an explosion almost killed him, he was kitted out in his exoskeleton but still retained some organs which is partly why he coughs, plus what others have said about windu damaging him further.
And another fun fact about Grievous's cough! It was actually George Lucas himself who recorded it, he had a bit of a cough one day and decided to put it into the movie.
I watched the movies chronologically and when Vader redeems himself by destroying the sith you see he in fact fulfilled the prophecy. He brought balance and peace to the galaxy. No one realized it would be the way he did. He was the Jedi who returned. He saved his son and the universe. I always sob when I see this series 💔
He brought balance to the galaxy but not peace. The galaxy was permanently destabilized and it never truly recovered to pre-Jedi Order/Republic status. I believe that was a major consequence of Anakin falling to the dark side.
I love the heartbeat you hear as Anakin is being operated on, stops for a few seconds and restarts as Vaders breathing begins. Anakin died and Vader came to life.
31:25 I mean, Anakin just basically assisted in the murder of the Jedi council deputy leader and yodas right hand man. There’s no going back from that.
I think part of why Anakin went from "what have I done" to "I pledge myself to your teachings" so quickly is because he internalized so much of the Jedi's view of the force. "If you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" like Yoda tried to instill in Luke in Episode V. Like how a "not one drop" mindset can actually set someone up to be an alcoholic because you set an arbitrary line for yourself and then lose all control as soon as it is crossed. He did one bad thing and so in his mind it was already too late to go back on it, so he might as well throw in with Palpatine 100% even if he has doubts. Of course Luke later proves that thinking wrong by going down the dark path himself but pulling back, and later turning Vader back into Anakin. If you watch the sequels, there's a good line in The Last Jedi that Luke says to Leia which sums up his point of view on redemption and such which the Jedi Order never really grasped in their lifetime.
I always though it was more because he aided a Sith Lord and more or less killed a Jedi Master.That's not something you come back from even from the Jedi he probably figured his life was over and decided well if there is no turning back might as well make sure Padme survives.
At that point, you could explain it off as his desire to save Padme but your reasoning is definitely right for why he remains by Palpatine's side after Padme's death. That and his self-hatred.
EXACTLY! The equating to a minor slip up with 'irredeemable and unforgivable' is really just a control mechanism used to frighten people into compliance (you see this in religion A LOT). The alcoholic (or smoker) shouldn't view taking a single drink as a failure; rather they should take pride in how little they've consumed over what time period and be given positive encouragement. "I've only had 3 beers in the past month" should be answered with "Good job!" Btw i don't know much about Star Wars lore as it relates to the force, but i believe that there used to be a bunch of different groups on the spectrum, and now we only have the two extremes, the Jedi and the Sith because of BS philosophical positions like what Yoda gives here.
You think Anakin was confused during this film, the Clone Wars shows this even more so and gives his transformation to the Dark Side so much more depth and meaning. But 100% this is one of the most tragic stories ever and it's pretty Shakespeare-esque if you think about it. Anakin becomes so filled with fear that he does atrocious things to save his wife - and because of his choices causes her death. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Glad you enjoyed this series as much as we do!
For many Ani does a jump to the dark side but when you dive deeper its a very linear path to it. A slaved boy lost his one and only thing important to him in the galaxy, his mother. Then a Wizard comes and says he is the chosen one, the most important person in the galaxy, and finds love. How could he not try everything to save it whatever it takes. As Sheev said to him that he killed Padme, his Regret echoed through the Force and made the endless cold of Space shiver.
I never got those that say it's a "jump". Where they not watching the same films? Or did they need to be spoonfed and have everything literally spelled out on screen?
What I love about the story as a whole is that, in a way, Anakin is the one to bring balance, he is the one to destroy the Sith, just not until years later in Return of the Jedi, and with his son Luke helping him realize there is still good in him. In my mind, this is kind of one of the best redemption stories in history, which is why the scene when Darth Vader throws Palpatine to his death is still my favorite scene in the entire series.
Anakin brought balance to the force. The Jedi had to be destroyed to bring balance, because by RotS the Jedi had become so corrupted from their original ways. The old Jedi struck a balance between light and dark, because without the dark there would be no light and without light there can’t be darkness. So at the end of RotJ he completes the prophecy as there is complete balance no Jedi order or Sith order.
@@Bakedgamer1Anakin brought balance by destroying Sidious in Return of the Jedi. The Sith and the Dark Side are a corruption of the Force, like a cancer, and should be dealt with accordingly. The Sith are evil because they are the epitome of selfishness, and using the force to fulfill your selfish desires deepens your connection to the Dark Side, unbalancing the force. The Jedi MUST exist to correct this imbalance. They are selfless, and allow the force to flow through them, and are servants of the greater good. Anakin committing genocide did nothing but make the imbalance worse. Balance in the Force isn’t yin and yang. The Jedi are a good thing to have around, because when some selfish dictator rises up with a connection to the force, who else is going to put him down? That’s why the Jedi have to exist in the galaxy.
@@Bakedgamer1 Incorrect. Luke would go on to restart the Jedi Order and do away with the no attachments rule. Even get married to a redhead named Mara Jade with a kid of his own. George Lucas has always described balance as the absence of the dark side. Calling it a cancer and perversion because it's one bending The Force to their will instead of letting The Force act through and guide them.
To your question about Anakin using o e hand on his saber vs Obiwan using 2 hands and yet still being as strong or stronger… 1 Anakin has a metal hand that has increased strength but really 2 Anakin uses a lightsaber fighting style that allows him to augment his strength by pulling from the Force while Obiwan used a lightsaber style that is purely defensive. Anakin is one of the strongest beings to use that style, and in the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, when he used it against Count Dooku the Count remarked internally that he felt like he aged 10 years every time Anakin swung his saber at him, a testament to how much strength Anakin could pull out of the Force during a duel.
Are you telling me Anakin can use Vegeta's Spirit Fission, from Dragon Ball (energy drained from opponent with every blow landed), because thats hardcore
@@RedShirtGuy96 There is a reason Anakin is considered THE Master of Form V, his feats as a Jedi during the Clone Wars are legendary. During Episode 3 the only force wielders that could have been able to face him as equals would be Obi-Wan and maybe Yoda, even Sidious stated that he would stronger than both of them (Sidious and Yoda) which only speaks of what "could have been" if Anakin didn't lose in Mustafar. Full theorical potential Anakin is scary.
@@RedShirtGuy96 no, that's not what he was doing. dooku said he felt like he was aging because of how physically imposing anakin was, not because he was getting force drained.
@@williamshelton4318 All Jedi use force to augment themselves to an extent. With Obiwan its mostly used for foresight and redirection, being the most efficient style possible.
@@xael-the-artist7708 while others in this thread have clarified that in the novelization anakin wasnt draining the force out of dooku in their duel, but could a max theoretical potential anakin (incl dark side abilities) actually do that, as in drain the very energy from their opponent as they fight?
Do you want to enjoy someone actually reacting to Clone Wars? Or do you want to watch a weird narcissist make lame dick jokes and then fake laugh at his own jokes throughout the entire series?
@@Flopdoodleexactly! I made it through all the live action SW before watching clone wars and even then I only made it to like season 3. If I started watching clone wars during the prequels then I’m 1000% sure I would’ve stopped watching clone wars AND live action Star Wars.
@@Flopdoodle There exists a list of "the essential" episodes, one that includes the best of the best character arcs, introductions and main plot episodes.
That’s a memory I wish I could relive; SW Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. In cinema. On opening night. The hype was insane. People were lined up for hours, dressed up in every SW costume I can think of. Even Episode 1 and TFA didn’t have that level of hype on opening night, by my memory
Such a tragic story. Anakin was essentially a slave his entire life from Watto to the Jedi to Palpatine's puppet. His only time not being a slave was the last few moments of his life that he was able to spend with Luke on the Death Star.
Anakin wasn't a slave when he was with the Jedi in fact a Jedi set him free. He could have left the Jedi order at any time he wanted he chose to stay and train he wasn't made master for one reason he wasn't ready yet. Anakin wanted everything yesterday. He can only be a master after he trained his own apprentice.
@@sickospacemad as part of the training he has to he agreed to it and was free to leave at anytime he wanted. You can't become a Jedi which is what Anakin wanted if you don't you have to go through the same training as everyone else. If I wanted to be a doctor but didn't want to go to all the lessons I can't be a doctor.... you just have to go through it to achieve it.
Its a little more complicated than that, but that is true enough. Its possible that Palpatine had a hand in the visions and the death of Anakin's mother, but its just as likely that Anakin told him about what he did to the Tusken raiders, and it gave Palpatine an idea to manipulate him further with Padme's death. All he had to do was wait in the council chambers and quite literally nothing would have happened to Padme, Palpatine would have been defeated by Mace Windu, and the sith would be eradicated from the Galaxy.
Seeing anakin with his hood up and tears running down his face showing him that what he was doing was wrong and eating him alive inside.😢 Still gives me chills
They had to separate the babies because together, they would have been more noticeable in the force to the bad guys who now would be hunting down all force users. Fun fact: Yoda hid on Dagobah because of that tunnel, which was a dark side nexus, which would hide his strong force presence.
It also gives them two shots at it because if one got discovered the other could still be hidden. Whereas keeping them together makes them more noticeable but also puts all your eggs in one basket.
@@SprattieGaming I'm not too sure there's all that much there for them to learn from. IDK about any EU stuff about the cave, but unless there was an ancient sith holocron there I don't think Palpatine nor Vader would learn anything by going there.
This movie not only does a great job showing anakin’s internal conflict, it also does a great job showing what the jedi’s shortcomings were when it came to being “peacekeepers” and an usher for anakin to bring balance to the force. They pushed while palpatine pulled. And they were brought down for it
my honest take on bringing balance to the force: THei Jed after 10000 Years or whatever, were seriously out of whack, becoming far too political, small-minded etc.. They genuinely lost the spiritual angle on their force use.. It was simply a tool, that even Yoda alone after 800 years was nowhere near as adept at it as he should have been.. Stagnation, calcification, etc. Only his higher than usual attunement allowed him to escape 66. With the Jedi effectively trapped in their own prison of frozen thought and dogma, they refused to pay attention. Windu might have been powerful, but was probably one of the worst things to ever happen to the council in it's final years. Sidious had spent his entire life once found by Plagueis doing nothing but plotting, scheming, training, honing, etc, no one Jedi - not even Windu- was strong enough to overcome him.. THe sheer power of tapping inot the unlimites hate/rage/anger/fear/etc allowed any Sith to at least temporarily channel insane amounts of power - which is why Palpatine age/decayed so rap[idly.. that amount of dark side energy channeled that intensely so quickly manifested the sort of damage it would normall take decades, even a century to show. Once Anakin had completely fallen, he manifested in the famous profile shot the dark side energy in his pupils. Palpatine had been careful to keep a low profile, but we saw what Maul's eyes looked like after his unrestrained channeling. He had decades after destroying his master to scheme and plot, and as the entire SW saga shows, is likely the single most powerful Sith to exist in many thousands of years. FOr balance the ancient corrupted, petrified Jedi order had to be purged, since it was clearly a hindrance to the effective influence of the Light Side. ONce that was done, then the resulting Sith ascndance and mass darkside influence had to be eliminated as well. Effectively, wipe EVERYTHING off the chess board and let the universe restore balance organically.
Bullshit, they discovered Palpatine's plot and would have saved the galaxy if Anakin hadn't have been a snake. They rightfully defended innocent lives during the clone wars, sensed that the dark side surrounded the Chancellor but didn't know if the Chancellor was the Sith or had him in his inner circle. They defeated Dooku, Grievous and even Palpatine but then Anakin fell for Sidious' lies of being able to save Padme. Anakin was a corrupt cop version of a jedi. Sold out the jedi and the whole Republic.
@@tahjsimon9058 Anakin was indeed corrupt but Jedis surely underestimated Palpatine's shrewdness. The man always has something up his sleeves which the Jedis have already realized during these political encounters with him. Even Yoda said throughout this whole trilogy that they must've 'missed' somethings. They failed to see that a whole planet was missing from their system, failed to see that a former Jedi has fallen to the dark side even after being warned by the senator, decided to only dwell on the dark foreshadowing of a child's potential future when they only see a clouded vision, decided to make a man they clearly show their silent disdain to spy on the guy who was there for him since childhood without actually explaining him the reasons as to why they want him to do things that are against their own code of conducts. This all helped Palpatine to use their own card against them (Anakin).
@@Tooba-K123 Anakin knew that Palpatine was using him and that is why as Vader he planned to kill him as soon as he learned how to save Padme. The jedi would have won if Anakin wasn't so selfishly possessive of Padme. If Anakin learned not to be so attached he would have been the chosen one that everyone believed that he would be. Instead he became Sidious' dog.
@@Tooba-K123 The jedi are not omniscient, they knew that something was wrong but they needed to find out if Palpatine was being manipulated by Sidious or if he was Sidious. Anakin discovered the truth and they went to arrest him. If Anakin wasn't in so much turmoil, fear and confusion, Mace Windu would have gladly invited Anakin but he was almost mentally sick with Vader as a split personality being the Mr Hyde. All of that could have been avoided if he actually listened to the jedi about how to overcome attachment but his selfishness wouldn't allow it.
In terms of the “Hell” image for Mustafar, you’re right on the nose. Lucas had the scene set up as symbolism where Anakin was the fallen angel Lucifer. He freaking nailed it. Also, in the novel of the movie, it was further explained that Padme actually had internal damage to her windpipe from Anakin’s attack. It wasn’t picked up by the droids because there was no external evidence.
@@TintOfficial Apparently Palpy was also using the dark side of the force to keep Anakin in pain and force him to use the dark side to save his own life on the ride from Mustafar back to the medical center on Coruscant. Imagine how much that rain must have stung on his burned skin when they exited the shuttle
39:40 Your response of, "Yeah I promised him to put you in pieces!" Was actually really accurate. In the novelization of Revenge of The Sith, when Nute Gunray said, "Lord Sideous promised us peace." Anakin replied, "No! He promised to leave you in pieces." As he struck him down.
In the words of Master Oogway, "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it". Anakin saw a possible future. Also her screaming in pain and crying could have also been interpreted as her in pain giving birth to 2 babies. If Anakin stayed on the Jedi course Padme would have lived. His anxiety about losing Padme is what drove him to the dark side and ultimately killed her.
“You’re giving me PTSD” pleaseee pay your editor more 😂😂 But seriously, your enthusiasm for Star Wars is so genuine, it’s really endearing. It reminds me of seeing them for the first time ❤❤
"She's dying and we cant explain why" immediately followed by cutting back and forth between her taking her last breaths as Vader takes is first ones, (not to mention the Frankenstein homage in the visuals of Vader's birth) heavily implies that Palpatine was draining Padme's live to make Anakin live. It is one of my favorite things in this movie.
I was literally checking the comments to see if someone pointed this out. A lot of people miss that detail in editing, but it's such a powerful concept that changes the impact of what's happening.
The last breath, first breath thing is something I never caught, but I don't see an implication that Palpatine did anything... infact, I think that would be a lame story element. It's much stronger to believe Padme was being killed by the birth of Vader and the death of Anakin... putting Palpatine in the mix is too much and kills the thematics.
An irony of casting is that Ian McDiarmid was only in his late 30’s when he played the older version of the emperor. By the time he played the younger senator/emperor he was about 60.
45:33 So yes, depending on what lightsaber form the combatant is using, they may be applying the Force to assist their movements and strikes. Anakin for example uses the aggression variant of Form V, Djem So, which is characterised by powerful Force assisted strikes meant to beat away an opponent's guard and keep them off balance, creating openings for deadly strikes. Because of this reliance on the Force to assist his blows, Anakin often goes out of his way to use only one hand in combat to taunt his opponent, driving home how "easily" he can overpower them. Obi-Wan is actually a really excellent match for Anakin, being a master of Form III, Soresu, which is focused on defense and economy of movement. You'll notice that while Obi-Wan is on the defensive the entire time, he doesn't actually get pushed back very often (at least not by an incoming strike, he actively retreats quite often). This is because he is able slip Anakin's powerful blows to one side or the other and maintain his footing. Most other combatants against Anakin would constantly find themselves having to repostition just to keep from getting bowled over.
I've been looking forward to this. My FAVORITE Star Wars movie ever, the true end of the story. This is "The Tragedy of Darth Vader". Seeing Anakin's fall is truly heartbreaking because it was preventable. Knowing his noble intentions, it makes the turn more heartbreaking. The final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan is heartbreaking and has the best choreography in the entire series. The fight isn't speed up, the two actors spent months training and are actually going that fast. Hayden(Anakin's actor) even does his signature move in the fight, a back spin block with his lightsaber. It's a badass move. Even after Anakin turned he's still The Chosen One. He killed the Jedi and then the Sith, bringing balance to the force. Seeing how much Palpatine manipulated EVERYONE is truly incredible. In the end, the war and Anakin were only ever tools for him to gain unlimited power. It's never stated but Palpatine WAS Darth Plagues's apprentice and it's heavily implied that Palpatine used the Dark Side to put the dreams of Padme dying. What makes Anakin's fall more tragic is that he was a slave basically his WHOLE life: he's a slave on Tatooine, he's a "slave" to the jedi order, he's a slave to Palpatine and he's only ever TRULY free by saving Luke. Now it's time to watch The Clone Wars show, 10/10 show, introduces fan favorite characters, gives more context to Anakin's fall, and more. I hope you have an amazing day Alex, May the Force be with you.
So about Anakins fall. Yes, he knew what he was doing was wrong, but at that moment he believed he was beyond forgiveness and beyond saving. So he fully committed to doing what he knew was wrong if the outcome meant Padme would survive.
Anakin wait in the council chambers, oh by the way you are now a jedi master and a key to open a door behind my seat so you can get out a super nintendo and play super mario world while you wait
Qui Gonn spirit taught Obi Wan to become a force ghost, (at the end of the movie Yoda said to Obi that someone returned from the netherworld of the force). In all those years in solitude in Tatooine Obi Wan learnt it. That´s why he told Vader in episode IV: "if you strike me down, I´ll become more powerful that you can possibly imagine".
31:30 It kind of makes sense here though, he knows he's done something awful, but he just aided in murdering a Jedi master. Makes sense that he feels that his bridges are burnt and his only choice now is to work with Palpatine in order to at least have a chance to save Padme.
I love that Padme’s last words seeped into Luke’s soul. He believed that there was still goodness in his father despite everything Anakin had become. He was right, and his faith in the love of his mother and his father became the catalyst for Anakin’s redemption, and the fulfillment of the prophecy. Forget the lasers, droids, and explosions, THIS is what Star Wars was always about.
It bothers me so much that the Kenobi show never even mentioned this. There are a lot of little things about that show that were kinda dumb but I could forgive, but I really hate that - after several mentions of Padme throughout the show - there isn't this moment where Obi-Wan tells Anakin that Padme had thought there was still good in him (or that he thought so), which would actually explain why Vader tells Luke that in RotJ. I feel like that was the ONE THING the show needed to set up and they just....didn't.
My English teacher, senior year of high school, used Star Wars as a sole reference when teaching about Archetypes. He was a Star Wars fanatic (and so was I), so not only did it make it very easy to learn the material (because I was interested), but also learned so much more about Star Wars. The prequels are super underrated, those movies were my childhood.
This is probably common knowledge already but I heard Anakin tried that high ground maneuver because over the years he'd gotten obsessed with how Obi-Wan had beaten Darth Maul and believed he could do it too/do it better. Thought that was interesting
I always just figured it was how Obi-Wan knew exactly what Anakin was going to try to do; and he knew exactly how to counter it. Could be both, of course!
@@ElectricKnight. Maul was extremely arrogant, and didn't think Obi-Wan would be able to surprise him. It's essentially the roles switched around, if Obi-Wan was looking down on Maul, but instead it's him looking down at Anakin, who's arrogance is cranked up to the extreme.
Anakin did that move like twice in this mustafar fight. The third time was when obi wan chopped him. It is known that anakin tried to out do his master with his own move.
@@michaelgarrett139 It also tracks that the other two times he did it, Obi-Wan defended himself but held back from going for a killing blow because he was still trying to get through to him.
Have similar thoughts, Obi-Wan was once in that same situation and was luckily able to pull it off. Anakin, wanting to better his master, attempts the same move. Like Electric said, Obi-Wan was able to counter it because it was his own move. Master > Apprentice
Fun Fact: General Grievous sounds like he's got coughers lungs because during the Clone Wars he fought Mace Windu who used forced crush on his body damaging his lungs!
Anakin is basically the “fallen angel.” Look up that piece of art and you’ll see the resemblance. There’s a shot during the final duel that mirrors the painting almost exactly.
I've met the actor that plays Palpatine during a Star Wars weekend event at Disney a few years back. He might play the evilest character in all of movie history but in reality, one of the nicest people out there.
Ian McDiarmid is an amazing man and actor. And one of my favourite things from him is a Shakespeareised Episode 6 Palpatine speech he did on a talk show.
@@pelicanofpunishment6 I bet that he was still disappointed he needed to come back to play in the episode nine, because Disney horrensoudly bad story writing for not having any villian, because the main bad guy Kylo Ren somehow turned to the good side and fell in love, while Snoke was killed of on the earlief episode like he meant nothing to begin with. I think Ian Mcdiarmid could still refuse to take part in the ninth episode, but did he do it, because of the money he gets from doing it.
16:49 "He says that to a stronger friend." When you look into it, Palpatine was acting more loving toward Anakin, the Jedi were pushing him down like a strict parents. That is part of why he turned, he was told "Don't do this", "That isn't the Jedi way.", and treated like a child.
Obi Wan clearly cared about Anakin, and gave him guidelines that would not only help him grow but would protect him/others from his worst impulses (we all saw what happened when he gave into those in AoTC). Palpatine wasn't trying to be a friend to Anakin; he blew smoke at him, telling everything Anakin wanted to hear about how he was better than everyone else, which only fed his worst tendancies. I'd rather have a strict parent/friend who calls me out when I'm being a moron than a manipulator who only agrees with me to get something out of me.
27:48 that's the whole point. they both have the power to end it quickly but their skills keep them in the fight until one makes a fatal mistake or hits a perfect strike.
Order 66 is the order that activated a microchip in all the clones. It makes them think that the Jedi betrayed the Republic and therefore committed treason, which is punishable by death.
The thing that sucks so much about anakins story is that the visions he was dreaming of padmes death werent telling him the absolute future, only the future that would occur if he chose the wrong path. It was broadcasting the cause of his self destruction as a warning, but it only fueled his descent.
I don't think that's true because his prior dreams, like about his mom, didn't come true because he went to find her - she had been captured & tortured long before he left to save her. I do think Palpatine could have been manipulating his dreams.
Nah this was all meant to happen. Yeah he caused her death but the vision was true. It literally happened exactly as he saw it. No it didn’t tell him the whole story but just like with his mom he saw exactly what was gonna happen. As much as we wanted Anakin to stay a Jedi the sad truth is Darth Vader was inevitable. Some might say that by becoming a Sith Lord, Anakin fulfilled his prophecy to destroy the sith since he in the end killed palps and died himself, effectively ending the sith. I’m pretty sure he could have survived with a quick bath in a bacta tank but vaders death was anakins redemption so it came full circle. It was all meant to happen as it did. Like a river, it flows and I’m positive no matter what he did the outcome would be the same.
@orphanedhanyou palpatine/the dark side manipulating his dreams is most likely true, however it is still influenced just a bit by anakins ability to see into the future.
@@wildmoose3979 agreed palpatine was willfully putting the visions in his mind, also there are similar stories in the Bible, there are many times even the good guys were commanded to kill all the children of their enemies, its conflicting the statement of "good guys" " killing innocent families and babies with swords"
The light/dark lighting was undoubtedly deliberate. The whole movie plays out like a classic tragedy where the main character makes a series of poor choices that lead to their downfall. It's somehow worse here because people who have seen the OT know it's inevitable, but there were so many points where Anakin could have turned back. So well written!
I didn't watch the OG trilogy until about 3 years after ROTS and I was at the edge of my seat. It made it better, however, it made the OG feel boring to me lol. I still like them for what they are but I love that Vader got better scenes with modern tech cuz his and Obi Wand final battle was so... meh after watching the prequels lol
31:16 He has no choice at that point, he just helped murder Mace Windu, whether or not he wants to be evil no longer matters, he just helped kill one of the highest ranking Jedi masters. His past life is over now, and he's crossed the point of no return.
Love watching someone watch these with a fresh, open perspective. These movies get so much hate, it was nice to see someone appreciate them for what they are without the preconceived judgement. And yes you've seen Boba Fett before... lol
To answer you saying are you happy was it worth it, no. He hated himself after this more then anything or anyone. He was a giant mass of rage and sadness,which fuels the dark side
Something you may have missed: Senator Oregana told the officer to have the PROTOCOL DROID'S mind wiped, which is C3PO R2's memory wasn't wiped, and he still has his memories from ep 123 in 456!
Yep, R2 literally was at the forefront of most of the events of the entire series, he witnessed Anakin from the time he was a child alllll the way up to when he finally turned to the dark side. My personal canon for why they wiped 3PO is because the dude can't shut up and they don't need him giving away the fact that Leia is Anakin's daughter, Vader didn't even know that it was twins, and he would have presumed that the baby died when Padme died, so Luke and Leia were basically unknown at the time.
Revenge of the Sith is hands down a cinematic masterpiece. It may not have always been looked upon with such great interest but as Anakin said, “this is where the fun begins” The journey through the Clone Wars will be quite interesting and will give you a new perspective at Revenge of the Sith. If you weren’t attached to Anakin before, you will be soon
8:44 general grievous is actually a warlord, turned droid by the separatists. He hates the jedi because they left his people in shambles, and he coughs because his lungs were supposed to have been crushed by his metallic ribs by a jedi's force power in a deleted scene.
One thing I liked better in the Novelization is that Anakin's motivation to be a master on the council was to get access to the restricted section of the jedi archives and save his wife.
That novel is one of the best Star Wars novels ever and improves on the story of this movie so much. Check out the TH-cam video called "The Hero With No Fear".
Just real quick to answer some of your questions. Palps has been in Anakin's ear since he was a child. Constantly manipulating him, and events around him. Including those dreams, and his mother being captured and tortured, and so much more. So it wasn't that Anakin just snapped one day to the dark side, Palps was setting that in motion from the start. And also, yes, Palps didn't lie about Anakins power. He has the potential to be more powerful that Palps and Yoda combined. But since Palps has been manipulating him all along, he's also convinced Anakin that he is lesser.
Hey Guys! Editor here, wanted to thank you all again for the love and support on these Star Wars videos and especially the editor's notes! You guys have been so warm and welcoming to me and I can't thank you enough. I'm glad you were able to experience my pain of editing Alex get everything wrong about Star Wars (including about a certain brother and sister) and I hope you will continue to be here as we dive into Clone Wars and then all of the other Star Wars projects down the road!
Once again, much love everyone! ❤
You had me at him reacting to the clone wars. Poor man is going to be crying
Bravo 👏
I find myself looking for your comments all the time now lol! Alex is a ton of fun and you are a happy bonus! Cheers from Canada❤🇨🇦
You were not alone in your pain 😂 I felt each and every one of them with you!
Oh no. Clone wars means Rebels which also means Bad Batch. In other words, it’s gonna take forever. Just ask the Normies. You catch my drift.
Alex took almost as long to realize Palpatine was the bad guy as the Jedi did.
I mean, the Jedis were as much a part of the problem as Palpatine. Which is why this happened in the first place
I guess he might make a good jedi.
@@Kman20025eeeeh palpatine kinda orchestra the whole downfall to begin and controlled both side of the war
He aaaaaalmost got it right at the beginning. "Hey isn't that the guy who played the Emperor in ROTJ? Naw, naw that isn't him, nvm I'm just seeing things." lmao
Right?! 😂😂😂
Fun fact:
Hayden and Ewan trained so hard that their fight scenes didn't have to be sped up. They really were moving that fast during filming.
I think at one point the crew actually had to tell them to slow down a little bit because the camera couldn't keep up. Crazy!
i heard they were slowed down by like 1/12 speed lol
And in the behind the scenes footage you could see poor Ewan's hands were bandaged up almost constantly in their training, but Hayden's usually weren't. Sounds like SOMEONE might've been a little less proficient in his saber skills... (I'm just teasing, but Ewan did seem to get his kuhnuckles roughed up pretty badly)
Seeing how Hayden is still able to do those moves almost 20 years later is NUTS.
Didn't they have to get slowed down to make it more followable by viewers?
"you joined the dark side for nothing"
thats how the dark side works. thats the tragedy of it.
The final trap and cruelty of the Sith. That you will lose everything. Your friends, your family, and eventually yourself.
Basically drugs/alcohol
basically the same with the light though at least in the case of star wars haha
@@muigokublack6487 also the cruelty of the jedi. They have to give up the people that they love and be emotionless to be a jedi
Thats why the jedi and the sith were the problem of their own downfall
@@miguelorozco4445 Wrong. They don't have to be emotionless. They have to control their emotions. Huge difference. Obi wan said himself that he viewed anakin like a brother which means he truly cared about him and had emotions for him. Obi wan wept when qui gon died. Even yoda felt immense anguish when his fellow jedi were being slaughtered.
Being a jedi is similar to making the life long intentional decision to be celibate so you can focus on other aspects of life. In other words if you choose to be celibate it doesn't mean you don't care about others but if your focus is for the common good in general building your own romantic relationships can distract you from that focus. Not to mention the fact that you can leave the jedi order at any point and they wont hold that against you.
The problem with the jedi is that through centuries of peace and prosperity they became aimless and eventually got wrapped up in political affairs which poisoned their ideals. The jedi had become naive but cruelty is not the word i would use to describe them under any circumstances.
When it comes to the jedi vs sith comparison they arent even in the same stratosphere morally speaking. The sith at their core are cannibalistic in how they operate and they despise each other almost as much as their sworn enemies. Sith pride themselves on emotional rebelliousness, greed, envy, and monopolizing authority and power by any means necessary even if it means murdering children in cold blood or wiping entire planets of its life. Their end goal is purposeless and fruitless. Anakin hadnt even made it two days as a sith and already his goal to achieve power to save padme went up in flames. And if you think palpatine was ever going to help anakin save padme you're a fool. There is a reason palpatine grinned when telling vader he killed padme.
Ashoka: "I can't kill the clones, they're my friends!"
Yoda: "on a 37 killstreak I am."
“360 no scope I did”
Aqquired nuke killstreak i did
“High on ketamine I am. Turn into a living beyblade I must.”
Shh don’t spoil it
Obi-Wan: "Lmao I think I just killed Appo."
53:20 Well, C-3PO did get wiped - but R2 wasn't. And that's the reason why he's so disobedient in the Original Trilogy and never stays with the Ship when he's told to do so: The last time he was told to do so, he lost his Master, his friend - he is quite literally traumatized.
Also, hoping to see a Rogue One Reaction next :)
PTSD Primary Traumitized Space Droid
@@Caffin8tori saw a awesome theory that the story teller for all the movies is r2d2. He witnessed everything
this just made me cry
Traumatizing AI
One thing I love, Anakin tells R2 to stay at the ship before he kills the Separatist leaders, and Anakin never comes back afterwards, and in the original trilogy, every time Luke tells R2 to "stay at the ship" he never does. This could potentially be accurate bc he never had his memory wiped like Goldman/C-3PO, but has never been confirmed that I'm aware.
You are correct R2 remembered that those were Anakin's last words to him and was worried that the same thing might happen to Luke. Therefore, he never left his side even while Luke was talking to Yoda R2 was right outside keeping an eye on what was going on.
That's right, R2 never witnesses any of the terrible things that Anakin does
omg.. all these years and I never put that together. Awww.. R2 =(
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I think by this point Anakin realizes how severely he messed up with his choices… He realizes that he has ruined his own life and destroyed everything he cared about.
But by this point he is too far gone to turn back. Palpatine and the Sith are literally all he has left at this point.
So my personal interpretation is that the rest of his life, as Darth Vader, is spent partially as a form of penance- in servitude to Palpatine not necessarily out of dedication to the Sith, but out of self-hatred.
Darth Maul confronts Darth Vader in the comics and asks "What could you hate enough to destroy me?" and Darth Vader replies with "Myself"
I think at that point anakin still hopes it will turn out okay. As he says on mustafar, hes doing evil act but plans on killing palpatine. He only gives up when he wake up and padme is dead and hes hopeless.
Padme's last words "I know there's good in him"
Anakin's last words "you were right"
he's talking to Luke, who also saw he had good in him, but it's almost symbolic of him answering Padme's final words instead.
Cool 😁😎
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@Algorythmfpv - I was today years old when I considered this - great thought!
Luke had no memory of his mother, but Obi-Wan was holding Luke as he leaned in to hear Padme's dying words, perhaps those very words imprinted deep in the mind of the force-sensitive baby Luke, only to rise to the surface all those years later when Luke meets Vader & the galaxys most famous revelation is made!
I'm gonna hold on to the thought that while she was talking to Obi-Wan, Padme actually subconsciously told her son to save his father!
@@chriscoombes6751 Leia though, HAD memories of her mother.
The Force or the Script!?
@@jez76 They are Anakin's offspring after-all. Their connection to the Force was extremely strong. Remember that she also told Luke that she knew all along, but couldn't explain how, that Luke was her brother. It's also entirely possible that she was referring to Bail Organa's wife, which I can't recall if she died or something when Leia was young, but you do see her holding Leia at the end of the movie. If its Padme she is talking about then it has to be the force because she was literally a freshly born, premature baby.
Hayden’s face acting is spectacular in this movie you can really see it all with no words
Yeah true especially with his eyes
Yeah, crushes whiny bitch face well
I love when people give Hayden his flowers. He did the best with what he was given. We love you Hayden ❤
I hated how annoying Anakin was in AOTC but Anakin in ROTS was so likable and was so sad to see him turn to the dark side right after. Hayden really did a good job from transitioning from a broken boy to the most evil villain in history. Looking back nearly 2 decades later, Anakin is one of the most flawed yet perfect characters.
@@AlexX-vn5sw i think he was supposed to be annoying. Imagine if you are a teen with so much powers and everyone is saying he is the chosen one. And on top of that he was missing his mom who later died in the movie . I think almost every 19 year old would be annoying in that situation
Dude your snap analysis of the light and shadows on Anakin and Yoda’s faces during their conversation was absolute money. Never seen someone understand that part so quickly, the force is with you 🫡
I went straight to the comments for this 🤩
@@MrHojichaindeed 👍
Yeah he'll pick up on things like that right away but then take three movies to realize Palpatine is the Sith Lord 😂
"Hello there" is actually a callback to a new hope, when Ben saves Luke and recognises R2
in the Clone Wars series Grievous says "hello there" to Obi-Wan which retcons it to Obi-Wan saying it back to Grievous
I had just realized that when we rewatched A New Hope, my husband looked at me like I’m an idiot 😂
I recognized it immidiately, and got so happy, when I saw ROTS for the first time in the cinema.
"I'm drooling" is a completely appropriate response when looking at Obi-Wan Kenobi.
My thoughts exactly. 😆😍
Agreed
Omg yes! 🤤 I fell in love with Obi-Wan Kenobi when I was 6 years old when I watched The Phantom Menace for the first time. ❤️ I've loved him ever since. I even named my dog Kenobi. Lol I can't wait to re-live the experience next month when I go see The Phantom Menace in theaters again for its 25th year anniversary.
Fun fact, all because of that one line about Anakin thinking grevious would be taller, and grevious thinking Anakin would be older, which implies they haven’t met, Throughout all of the animated clone wars series, they made sure Grevious and Anakin never crossed paths, just to not break canon
But then they made anakin and dooku fight over and over again despite their dialogue in this movie implying they haven’t fought in a long time
@@jimmybob5541 when was the last time they fight in clone wars? Some time could’ve passed ig, idk 😂
@@jimmybob5541 a long time isn't specific enough though
Yeah back in the day they really cared about canon...than disney came and destroyed everything :(
@@calexxelac2457like a week probably
It's important to note that only C3PO's mind was wiped, because Senator Organa's translator droid having knowledge of Vader's children was obviously considered a risk. R2, however, remembers everything, which is why in Star Wars Episode IV:A New Hope, he remembers Obi Wan but C3PO is completely oblivious.
Thank you for this lol. I never put that together. I just thought C-3P0 was a dick.
Cause r2 knows how to keep his mouth shut and threepio doesn't
Yeah not only was it just a general security risk having him retain the knowledge in case he was captured, but C-3PO quite literally never can keep his mouth shut and would probably have spilled the beans without anyone prompting it out of him.
40:30 if I remember correctly ewan mcgregor covers his mouth cause every time he said his line “anakin has killed the younglings” he couldn’t help but laugh
34:14 Plo Koon is actually an absolute bro and genuinely cared about his clone troopers, unlike some of the other Jedi commanders
Not even force charisma could save Aayla Secura from this one
Yeah don't diss master Plo XD
anakin and the 501st
Dude has it out for aliens. Complete naked xenophobia. DO NOT invite Alex to any version of a "First Contact" scenario.
@@andrewmarks3433he didn't diss master plo, he dissed the emperor
Last words of Padmé: "There is still good in him"
Last words of Anakin: "You were right"
It's like poetry, it rhymes...
I also love how both Anakin and Padme asked if the other was ok.
Nobody told Lucas that poetry doesn't have to rhyme. Or that not every rhyme is poetry. Even that part is bullshit.
@@j.m.w.5064no, but the good ones do
Only C3PO has his mind wiped.
never noticed that
"Hello There" is also the first line that Obi-Wan says in A New Hope. He says it to R2-D2.
I never noticed that!
YAY someone else remembers the ancient callback
In the Novelization for this movie, when Gunray says Sidious said they’d be left in peace, Anakin drops the coldest fucking line: “The transmission was garbled, he said you’d be left in *pieces*.”
I wish that were in the actual movie. That line goes so hard.
Matthew Stover did such an amazing novelisation - so beautifully written, even though some of it can't be canon anymore, it'll always be on my bookshelf.
@@dudemdlI own the Audiobook and I love the way they characterize the relationship between Anakin and Padmé, and the metaphor of the Dead Star Dragon that represents Anakins fear, anger, guilt etc.
I still love when Palpatine told Anakin to leave Obi-Wan (during opening rescue). Anakin say "his fate will be the same as ours." All three die on Death Stars.
Exactly it’s like poetry it rims
@@cambelloroxy9420 ayo 🥵
To further that, both were kinda killed by their apprentice lol. Even tho obiwan blipped outta there.
That's not true, somehow Palpatine returned.
@@ColtonWalker073 we don't talk about that lol
I love the fact that in the end, the prophecy was true, it only didn't play out like the Jedi had planned. He did kill the Sith and he did bring balance to the force, with the help of his son in Return of The Jedi. It was an event that just wasn't destined to be in *their* lifetimes.
You could also interpret it as Anakin brought balance by being instrumental in leaving two Sith and two Jedi left. Before all the spinoffs with a bunch of other Jedi/Sith popping out anywhere. You could say no one realized "Bring balance to the Force" meant there were just WAY too many Jedi, disrupting the balance
That's not at all how it goes in the reality of Star Wars however. Lucas explained it was the elimination of the Sith. In your headcanon fine but that's not the actual explanation.@@jojackmcgurk4499
In the end, they were too high on their horses to see how their downfall would come. They didn't want the force to balance itself on its own, they wanted the force to balance on how THEY wanted it to.
In the end, the evil creeps in once you are selfish and try doing things your way instead of letting the universe play out how it's going to play out, and playing your role in the grand scheme of the universe (or some higher power, depends on what you believe). Both Anakin and the Jedi fall to evil in this way.
I mostly feel bad for yoda. Clearly he had enough time and devotion to the Jedi order to have faith in it and believe that it's the true good of the galaxy and cannot in any way shape or form be bad. I think the majority of the Jedi believed this. Especially during the clone wars. If yoda has seen and felt the same things Anakin did, I 100% believe that he would change the Jedi order for good, so that more people like Anakin feel more assured in the order. But, he didn't. So that 800+ years of the Jedi devotion was driving his beliefs just like every other time in his life, and it seemed to have worked out. But Anakin was different. Yoda couldn't do the same things he's done for years with Anakin. Something had to be different for Anakin to end a chapter of the galaxy, and to open up a new one.
Sorry for the long rant, I'll end it here or else I won't shut up for the next 3 hours. I just love this movie, and the more I think about it, the better it gets.
@@jojackmcgurk4499 this interpretation is largely viewed as wrong and the only real in universe thing that could be viewed as supporting this meaningfully is the mortis. Jedi seek to live in harmony with the force while the Sith twist it and act against life. The Jedi lost their way in service of life and so either Anakin would have destroyed Palpatine and revitalized a Jedi order which had grown to fear attachment to learn to love life in all its forms, or the Jedi would reject the Chosen One and need to be destroyed so that his son would create a new order which could learn the redemptive powers of love.
What a pleasure it is to watch someone watch these films with an untainted point of view and without all the baggage of hate, and able to see them for the great cinema they actually are.
Honestly, new fans are the best fans lol... getting so tired of the fandom menace
@@coreymoore2719 It's best when you don't have a childhood that's been "ruined" ... But it's honestly sad when kids who became fans with the prequels turned on them when they grew up. I was in a theatre seat in 1977 and I loved I-III.
@@JAIstarkillerkid a childhood can't be ruined by a couple bad movies just like a franchise can't be ruined by a couple bad movies.
@coreymoore2719 the fandom menace is such a funny name for that, definitely using that myself now
Im not tryna be a hater because I genuinely like these movies for what they are but they are absolutely objectively NOT great cinema. There is so much wrong with them from technical standpoints.
man palpatine really said
"Yeah it's fuckin lit 🔥 over here on the dark ⚫ side. All the cool kids are learning how to save their loved ones ❤from dying"
Part of the reason Anakin was so determined to save Padme was last time he started getting visions of his mother suffering and dying he ignored them only to find he could have saved her if he'd acted right away, so when he started seeing Padme in the same situation obviously his first instinct would be to act right away, but this time it is because he didn't ignore the visions that it came to pass. The force kind of screwed Anakin over in a sense
In the comics, the visions of Padme dying were sent by the Emperor to make Anakin easier to convert. I'm not sure if that survived the de-canonization process.
@@TheRawrnstuff In the comics Palpatine did manipulate Anakin's life since the very beginning (I forgot what comics but there's a valid reasons why Anakin's downfall and Palpatine winning the game chess).
@@VergilTheMotivatedKatanaManHe manipulated absolutely everything involved tbf, the separatists who attack his home planet, his own rise to power in the senate, the clone army and an extremely intentional droid army, so much more
@@VergilTheMotivatedKatanaManit goes back even further too, if you read the plagueis novel shmi getting pregnant was the force's response to plagueis and sidious attempting to bring someone back to life. the force didn't like them using their dark side power to ignore the cycle of life and so it responded by creating the being who was meant to bring balance to the force
edit to add: i do highly recommend reading this novel. super well written and adds a ton of background information and context to enhance the story of sidious and episode 1 in general
34:52 whats funny is that kid grew up and met Hayden Christensen (Anakin) and said the same line and Hayden responded "oh you survived" 🤣🤣🤣
the kid: Surprised?
Alex its sadder when you think about how happy Anikin was about being a father. Only to think that he killed his wife and child. Then when he finds out his son is alive, and didn't know he also had a daughter. Just that level of heartbreak is tremendous.
Idk i always preferred it being Palpatine draining Padmes life force to keep Anikin alive to become Vader.
And after watching Obi-wan, bro that’s your daughter right fucking there you can’t tell?
Or in episode 4 bruh that’s your daughter you have captured you can’t tell.
But she wasn't holding her breath.
We never see Vader learn that "Luke's Sister," is Leia.
He didn't just have her captured. He actively tortured her for information and she didn't break.
Also, remember the time he choked his pregnant wife out on a volcano sulphur planet?
Cannot wait for you to see slow turn into evil ani goes through throughout Clone Wars.
With Ashoka, The council secrets, his jealousy, the political backstabbing, the mandorlian drama, the loss of his humanity and his love for the war. God Clone Wars makes the prequels a 100x better imo.
I enjoy the Clone Wars but all the people that didn't see the obvious character growth & all the great silent acting Hayden does just make me think too many need to be spoonfed every detail. The prequels do not need the animated shows, it's all there
And 50:00 he realizes all of it, and it’s the hate that fuels Darth Vader, not hatred of anyone or anything but hatred of the self.
Fun fact about the entire fight with Anakin and obi-wan, both of the actors did the stunts and combat themselves
Yeah, I think it was mostly done at full speed as well. They kept hitting each other's hands.
@@pelicanofpunishment6yeah I think they actually had to slow down the fights 🤣
And the sound FX. Thus the constant re shoots. "Guys you are doing the lightsaber noises again..."
@@deejaydj6013 to make it more "believeable" and yet people still think it's sped up when its actually slowed down.
When the actors had the passion to invest in choreography
“What the hell is Order 66?” I actually laughed out out loud at that 😂
Mere moments of obliviousness to that which haunts us all
Knowing Alex’s sense of humor, it’s too bad it wasn’t Order 69 😂
@@coyotelong4349 fr tho 🤣
imagine a rewatch of Order 66 after the anime
@@jlassijlali290did you just call The Clone Wars anime?
That force scream Palpatine does while hurling against his opponent's is spine chilling
Loved it when I watched this in theaters. My jaw dropped when I heard it. Never thought such a stately, well-mannered old man was capable of making such an unholy noise like that.
I read somewhere that the reason the masters that came to arrest him all fell so easily/effortlessly was because his scream severed their connection to the force temporarily. It's like even the FORCE ITSELF was terrified and retreated away from the room. I also personally think the reason it didn't affect Windu in the same way is because Windu is known to be balancing perfectly between both light and dark side in his techniques and fighting.
"There's never any music playing for the fight scenes."
Duel of the Fates is disappointed in you Alex.
46:55 - Part of the reason the scene looks so good is that they took advantage of an active volcanic eruption during the filming of the movie, and sent a 2nd unit to get footage which was composited along with the live action fight, and CGI. Fire and water are two of the hardest effects to do convincingly in CGI (especially at the time this movie was made), so the footage of actual lava really helps sell the scene. There's a neat BTS feature available on how they made this scene.
Have you seen the clone wars animation from Hello there yet. I suggest you watch it they did an amazing job recreating the fight in a clone wars style.
Thats kinda cool
Rogue One is a must from this point on. It comes between III and IV. In fact, it segues directly into IV.
YES!!! That Vader scene is to me the greatest scene in all the Star Wars movies.
Might as well do Andor also.
@@jeffpatton2866shhhhhhh don’t tell him
Kenobi TV series, then Rogue One!
Not really
It's crazy to think all of this CGI is almost 20 years old now, but it's still timeless.
50:19 Yes Alex, she actually did die from a broken heart.
Also of you didn't know, Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's (Leia) mom did die from a broken heart in real life. RIP you two, you are true legends.
I don’t think I saw anyone talk about Grievous’s cough, so here is the context. Prior to the release of Episode 3, there was a 25 episode original Clone Wars show whose final episode, which aired like 2 months before the movie, was the chancellor being captured on Coruscaunt. While attempting to stop the capture, Mace Windu reaches out through the force and crushes Grievous’s lungs. So the cough, which is often mistaken as a sickness, is really just part of his Cybrog body being damaged.
That's such an underappreciated miniseries. Great animation and insane directing. Grevious' introduction scene is one of the best things Star Wars has ever produced.
Grievous is an alien being with armor and cybernetics. Mace crushed his lungs so he coughs.
Grevious was flesh and blood before an explosion almost killed him, he was kitted out in his exoskeleton but still retained some organs which is partly why he coughs, plus what others have said about windu damaging him further.
Greivous was such a badass in that miniseries
And another fun fact about Grievous's cough! It was actually George Lucas himself who recorded it, he had a bit of a cough one day and decided to put it into the movie.
I watched the movies chronologically and when Vader redeems himself by destroying the sith you see he in fact fulfilled the prophecy. He brought balance and peace to the galaxy. No one realized it would be the way he did. He was the Jedi who returned. He saved his son and the universe. I always sob when I see this series 💔
He brought balance to the galaxy but not peace. The galaxy was permanently destabilized and it never truly recovered to pre-Jedi Order/Republic status. I believe that was a major consequence of Anakin falling to the dark side.
@@rebelfighter5249The prophecy said that he would bring balance to the force, not the galaxy.
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Until the Disney sequels retconned it
@@JaceMazama Disney ruins everything.
I love the heartbeat you hear as Anakin is being operated on, stops for a few seconds and restarts as Vaders breathing begins. Anakin died and Vader came to life.
Damn I never noticed this
31:25 I mean, Anakin just basically assisted in the murder of the Jedi council deputy leader and yodas right hand man. There’s no going back from that.
I think part of why Anakin went from "what have I done" to "I pledge myself to your teachings" so quickly is because he internalized so much of the Jedi's view of the force. "If you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" like Yoda tried to instill in Luke in Episode V. Like how a "not one drop" mindset can actually set someone up to be an alcoholic because you set an arbitrary line for yourself and then lose all control as soon as it is crossed. He did one bad thing and so in his mind it was already too late to go back on it, so he might as well throw in with Palpatine 100% even if he has doubts. Of course Luke later proves that thinking wrong by going down the dark path himself but pulling back, and later turning Vader back into Anakin. If you watch the sequels, there's a good line in The Last Jedi that Luke says to Leia which sums up his point of view on redemption and such which the Jedi Order never really grasped in their lifetime.
Also the fact that he just caused the death of Mace Windu and that point he could've been thinking "fuck it just save my wife now" lol
I always though it was more because he aided a Sith Lord and more or less killed a Jedi Master.That's not something you come back from even from the Jedi he probably figured his life was over and decided well if there is no turning back might as well make sure Padme survives.
At that point, you could explain it off as his desire to save Padme but your reasoning is definitely right for why he remains by Palpatine's side after Padme's death. That and his self-hatred.
EXACTLY! The equating to a minor slip up with 'irredeemable and unforgivable' is really just a control mechanism used to frighten people into compliance (you see this in religion A LOT).
The alcoholic (or smoker) shouldn't view taking a single drink as a failure; rather they should take pride in how little they've consumed over what time period and be given positive encouragement. "I've only had 3 beers in the past month" should be answered with "Good job!"
Btw i don't know much about Star Wars lore as it relates to the force, but i believe that there used to be a bunch of different groups on the spectrum, and now we only have the two extremes, the Jedi and the Sith because of BS philosophical positions like what Yoda gives here.
In for a penny in for a pound.
You think Anakin was confused during this film, the Clone Wars shows this even more so and gives his transformation to the Dark Side so much more depth and meaning.
But 100% this is one of the most tragic stories ever and it's pretty Shakespeare-esque if you think about it. Anakin becomes so filled with fear that he does atrocious things to save his wife - and because of his choices causes her death. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Glad you enjoyed this series as much as we do!
For many Ani does a jump to the dark side but when you dive deeper its a very linear path to it.
A slaved boy lost his one and only thing important to him in the galaxy, his mother. Then a Wizard comes and says he is the chosen one, the most important person in the galaxy, and finds love. How could he not try everything to save it whatever it takes.
As Sheev said to him that he killed Padme, his Regret echoed through the Force and made the endless cold of Space shiver.
I never got those that say it's a "jump". Where they not watching the same films? Or did they need to be spoonfed and have everything literally spelled out on screen?
"Put your hands down you aren't Jesus" That one got me.
What I love about the story as a whole is that, in a way, Anakin is the one to bring balance, he is the one to destroy the Sith, just not until years later in Return of the Jedi, and with his son Luke helping him realize there is still good in him. In my mind, this is kind of one of the best redemption stories in history, which is why the scene when Darth Vader throws Palpatine to his death is still my favorite scene in the entire series.
I never bought into that. Sure he does but it's kinda like Luke does all the work and someone else gets the credit for one thing.
Anakin brought balance to the force. The Jedi had to be destroyed to bring balance, because by RotS the Jedi had become so corrupted from their original ways. The old Jedi struck a balance between light and dark, because without the dark there would be no light and without light there can’t be darkness. So at the end of RotJ he completes the prophecy as there is complete balance no Jedi order or Sith order.
@@Bakedgamer1Anakin brought balance by destroying Sidious in Return of the Jedi. The Sith and the Dark Side are a corruption of the Force, like a cancer, and should be dealt with accordingly.
The Sith are evil because they are the epitome of selfishness, and using the force to fulfill your selfish desires deepens your connection to the Dark Side, unbalancing the force. The Jedi MUST exist to correct this imbalance. They are selfless, and allow the force to flow through them, and are servants of the greater good.
Anakin committing genocide did nothing but make the imbalance worse. Balance in the Force isn’t yin and yang. The Jedi are a good thing to have around, because when some selfish dictator rises up with a connection to the force, who else is going to put him down? That’s why the Jedi have to exist in the galaxy.
@@Bakedgamer1 Incorrect. Luke would go on to restart the Jedi Order and do away with the no attachments rule. Even get married to a redhead named Mara Jade with a kid of his own.
George Lucas has always described balance as the absence of the dark side. Calling it a cancer and perversion because it's one bending The Force to their will instead of letting The Force act through and guide them.
The Jedi had been to corrupted, they had to be destroyed as well.
"WHY AM I WEARING PANTS FOR THIS!?" Dumbledore said calmly
"HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE YOU LITTLE SHIT?" He said calmly.
😂😂😂
To your question about Anakin using o e hand on his saber vs Obiwan using 2 hands and yet still being as strong or stronger…
1 Anakin has a metal hand that has increased strength but really
2 Anakin uses a lightsaber fighting style that allows him to augment his strength by pulling from the Force while Obiwan used a lightsaber style that is purely defensive. Anakin is one of the strongest beings to use that style, and in the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, when he used it against Count Dooku the Count remarked internally that he felt like he aged 10 years every time Anakin swung his saber at him, a testament to how much strength Anakin could pull out of the Force during a duel.
Are you telling me Anakin can use Vegeta's Spirit Fission, from Dragon Ball (energy drained from opponent with every blow landed), because thats hardcore
@@RedShirtGuy96 There is a reason Anakin is considered THE Master of Form V, his feats as a Jedi during the Clone Wars are legendary.
During Episode 3 the only force wielders that could have been able to face him as equals would be Obi-Wan and maybe Yoda, even Sidious stated that he would stronger than both of them (Sidious and Yoda) which only speaks of what "could have been" if Anakin didn't lose in Mustafar.
Full theorical potential Anakin is scary.
@@RedShirtGuy96 no, that's not what he was doing. dooku said he felt like he was aging because of how physically imposing anakin was, not because he was getting force drained.
@@williamshelton4318 All Jedi use force to augment themselves to an extent. With Obiwan its mostly used for foresight and redirection, being the most efficient style possible.
@@xael-the-artist7708 while others in this thread have clarified that in the novelization anakin wasnt draining the force out of dooku in their duel, but could a max theoretical potential anakin (incl dark side abilities) actually do that, as in drain the very energy from their opponent as they fight?
Notice how there’s a solar eclipse happening when Anakin is on Mustafar. The light is covered by darkness figuratively and literally.
2:43 That’s why we recommend watching the Clone Wars animated series. It covers that huge time gap in between these episodes (excluding season 7).
And tbf the last Episodes with the siege of mandalore make the Order 66 and by that Episode 3's end even much more hard hitting
Do you want to enjoy someone actually reacting to Clone Wars? Or do you want to watch a weird narcissist make lame dick jokes and then fake laugh at his own jokes throughout the entire series?
That's a terrible idea. Clone Wars is 20% good stuff (REALLY good stuff), and 80% boring filler.
@@Flopdoodleexactly! I made it through all the live action SW before watching clone wars and even then I only made it to like season 3. If I started watching clone wars during the prequels then I’m 1000% sure I would’ve stopped watching clone wars AND live action Star Wars.
@@Flopdoodle There exists a list of "the essential" episodes, one that includes the best of the best character arcs, introductions and main plot episodes.
Vaders first breath in the theater was absolutely incredible. The theater was silent until he breathed
That’s a memory I wish I could relive; SW Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. In cinema. On opening night.
The hype was insane. People were lined up for hours, dressed up in every SW costume I can think of. Even Episode 1 and TFA didn’t have that level of hype on opening night, by my memory
@keiththorne5617 I saw it at midnight got done at 230 it was amazing
Wish I could've watched it in theaters, unfortunately for me I was born in 2005
Yep. And half the theater gasped, the other half cheered. My theory is this is how you tell who is a Sith and who isnt
@@_Yombo 🫶🏼👵🏼
Such a tragic story. Anakin was essentially a slave his entire life from Watto to the Jedi to Palpatine's puppet. His only time not being a slave was the last few moments of his life that he was able to spend with Luke on the Death Star.
Anakin wasn't a slave when he was with the Jedi in fact a Jedi set him free. He could have left the Jedi order at any time he wanted he chose to stay and train he wasn't made master for one reason he wasn't ready yet. Anakin wanted everything yesterday. He can only be a master after he trained his own apprentice.
@@davidmonaghan26he was still a slave he never got freedom and always had to do what the council said
@@sickospacemad as part of the training he has to he agreed to it and was free to leave at anytime he wanted. You can't become a Jedi which is what Anakin wanted if you don't you have to go through the same training as everyone else. If I wanted to be a doctor but didn't want to go to all the lessons I can't be a doctor.... you just have to go through it to achieve it.
@@davidmonaghan26taking as a child to be part of a religious cult, if that doesnt sound brainwashing to you, Im worried
@@davidmonaghan26 I'd put it this way: throughout his life, Anakin was always calling someone else "Master."
The craziest part of a Akins story is that by trying to prevent the future he caused it
Its a little more complicated than that, but that is true enough. Its possible that Palpatine had a hand in the visions and the death of Anakin's mother, but its just as likely that Anakin told him about what he did to the Tusken raiders, and it gave Palpatine an idea to manipulate him further with Padme's death. All he had to do was wait in the council chambers and quite literally nothing would have happened to Padme, Palpatine would have been defeated by Mace Windu, and the sith would be eradicated from the Galaxy.
@@Lucitinit starts with fear. The fear of losing her. By the end he fell to the dark side
Akin skwker
Seeing anakin with his hood up and tears running down his face showing him that what he was doing was wrong and eating him alive inside.😢 Still gives me chills
They had to separate the babies because together, they would have been more noticeable in the force to the bad guys who now would be hunting down all force users. Fun fact: Yoda hid on Dagobah because of that tunnel, which was a dark side nexus, which would hide his strong force presence.
It also gives them two shots at it because if one got discovered the other could still be hidden. Whereas keeping them together makes them more noticeable but also puts all your eggs in one basket.
Yoda would be fucked if Palpatine or Vader sought out the cave to learn more about the mysteries of the force.
You'd think masters of the force would be able to use from Force Stealth like Palpatine did the entire time. lol
@@SprattieGaming I'm not too sure there's all that much there for them to learn from. IDK about any EU stuff about the cave, but unless there was an ancient sith holocron there I don't think Palpatine nor Vader would learn anything by going there.
@@primary2630Wasn’t that because there was a huge sith temple under the Jedi temple? Kinda like what yoda does but way bigger and scarier
This movie not only does a great job showing anakin’s internal conflict, it also does a great job showing what the jedi’s shortcomings were when it came to being “peacekeepers” and an usher for anakin to bring balance to the force. They pushed while palpatine pulled. And they were brought down for it
my honest take on bringing balance to the force:
THei Jed after 10000 Years or whatever, were seriously out of whack, becoming far too political, small-minded etc.. They genuinely lost the spiritual angle on their force use.. It was simply a tool, that even Yoda alone after 800 years was nowhere near as adept at it as he should have been.. Stagnation, calcification, etc. Only his higher than usual attunement allowed him to escape 66. With the Jedi effectively trapped in their own prison of frozen thought and dogma, they refused to pay attention. Windu might have been powerful, but was probably one of the worst things to ever happen to the council in it's final years.
Sidious had spent his entire life once found by Plagueis doing nothing but plotting, scheming, training, honing, etc, no one Jedi - not even Windu- was strong enough to overcome him.. THe sheer power of tapping inot the unlimites hate/rage/anger/fear/etc allowed any Sith to at least temporarily channel insane amounts of power - which is why Palpatine age/decayed so rap[idly.. that amount of dark side energy channeled that intensely so quickly manifested the sort of damage it would normall take decades, even a century to show. Once Anakin had completely fallen, he manifested in the famous profile shot the dark side energy in his pupils. Palpatine had been careful to keep a low profile, but we saw what Maul's eyes looked like after his unrestrained channeling.
He had decades after destroying his master to scheme and plot, and as the entire SW saga shows, is likely the single most powerful Sith to exist in many thousands of years.
FOr balance the ancient corrupted, petrified Jedi order had to be purged, since it was clearly a hindrance to the effective influence of the Light Side. ONce that was done, then the resulting Sith ascndance and mass darkside influence had to be eliminated as well. Effectively, wipe EVERYTHING off the chess board and let the universe restore balance organically.
Bullshit, they discovered Palpatine's plot and would have saved the galaxy if Anakin hadn't have been a snake.
They rightfully defended innocent lives during the clone wars, sensed that the dark side surrounded the Chancellor but didn't know if the Chancellor was the Sith or had him in his inner circle.
They defeated Dooku, Grievous and even Palpatine but then Anakin fell for Sidious' lies of being able to save Padme.
Anakin was a corrupt cop version of a jedi. Sold out the jedi and the whole Republic.
@@tahjsimon9058 Anakin was indeed corrupt but Jedis surely underestimated Palpatine's shrewdness. The man always has something up his sleeves which the Jedis have already realized during these political encounters with him. Even Yoda said throughout this whole trilogy that they must've 'missed' somethings. They failed to see that a whole planet was missing from their system, failed to see that a former Jedi has fallen to the dark side even after being warned by the senator, decided to only dwell on the dark foreshadowing of a child's potential future when they only see a clouded vision, decided to make a man they clearly show their silent disdain to spy on the guy who was there for him since childhood without actually explaining him the reasons as to why they want him to do things that are against their own code of conducts.
This all helped Palpatine to use their own card against them (Anakin).
@@Tooba-K123 Anakin knew that Palpatine was using him and that is why as Vader he planned to kill him as soon as he learned how to save Padme.
The jedi would have won if Anakin wasn't so selfishly possessive of Padme. If Anakin learned not to be so attached he would have been the chosen one that everyone believed that he would be. Instead he became Sidious' dog.
@@Tooba-K123 The jedi are not omniscient, they knew that something was wrong but they needed to find out if Palpatine was being manipulated by Sidious or if he was Sidious.
Anakin discovered the truth and they went to arrest him. If Anakin wasn't in so much turmoil, fear and confusion, Mace Windu would have gladly invited Anakin but he was almost mentally sick with Vader as a split personality being the Mr Hyde. All of that could have been avoided if he actually listened to the jedi about how to overcome attachment but his selfishness wouldn't allow it.
The second Anakin started saying "I have brought" I quoted it from there all the way to Obi-Wan walking away from the high ground lol.
In terms of the “Hell” image for Mustafar, you’re right on the nose. Lucas had the scene set up as symbolism where Anakin was the fallen angel Lucifer. He freaking nailed it.
Also, in the novel of the movie, it was further explained that Padme actually had internal damage to her windpipe from Anakin’s attack. It wasn’t picked up by the droids because there was no external evidence.
Fan theory is that Palp used that ability he promised to teach Anakin to syphon Padme's life force to sustain Anakin's life.
@@TintOfficial Apparently Palpy was also using the dark side of the force to keep Anakin in pain and force him to use the dark side to save his own life on the ride from Mustafar back to the medical center on Coruscant. Imagine how much that rain must have stung on his burned skin when they exited the shuttle
39:40
Your response of,
"Yeah I promised him to put you in pieces!"
Was actually really accurate.
In the novelization of Revenge of The Sith, when Nute Gunray said,
"Lord Sideous promised us peace."
Anakin replied,
"No! He promised to leave you in pieces."
As he struck him down.
In the words of Master Oogway, "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it". Anakin saw a possible future. Also her screaming in pain and crying could have also been interpreted as her in pain giving birth to 2 babies. If Anakin stayed on the Jedi course Padme would have lived. His anxiety about losing Padme is what drove him to the dark side and ultimately killed her.
A self-fulfilling prophecy
“You’re giving me PTSD” pleaseee pay your editor more 😂😂
But seriously, your enthusiasm for Star Wars is so genuine, it’s really endearing. It reminds me of seeing them for the first time ❤❤
"She's dying and we cant explain why" immediately followed by cutting back and forth between her taking her last breaths as Vader takes is first ones, (not to mention the Frankenstein homage in the visuals of Vader's birth) heavily implies that Palpatine was draining Padme's live to make Anakin live. It is one of my favorite things in this movie.
I never thought of this.. Since Palp mastered many force abilities, taking and giving away force life should be ez for him
I was literally checking the comments to see if someone pointed this out. A lot of people miss that detail in editing, but it's such a powerful concept that changes the impact of what's happening.
Wow!?
I totally missed that !
Thank you for letting us/me know 😊😘
I mean this is still just a fan theory and not canon but it's still a good theory
The last breath, first breath thing is something I never caught, but I don't see an implication that Palpatine did anything... infact, I think that would be a lame story element. It's much stronger to believe Padme was being killed by the birth of Vader and the death of Anakin... putting Palpatine in the mix is too much and kills the thematics.
The hilarious thing is when yoda pushed the guards it took me so long to realize he pushed them I assumed first they just died upon seeing him
Nahh💀💀💀
"Oh shit it's YodAHHHHHHHH" *dies*
I'm assuming you were really young when you first saw it.
@@SubterrelProspector yes it was back in 2007 , I was almost 5 at the time
An irony of casting is that Ian McDiarmid was only in his late 30’s when he played the older version of the emperor. By the time he played the younger senator/emperor he was about 60.
That "Cinnamon roll-ass hair" is exactly how her daughter wears her hair in A New Hope how did you miss that?
45:33 So yes, depending on what lightsaber form the combatant is using, they may be applying the Force to assist their movements and strikes. Anakin for example uses the aggression variant of Form V, Djem So, which is characterised by powerful Force assisted strikes meant to beat away an opponent's guard and keep them off balance, creating openings for deadly strikes. Because of this reliance on the Force to assist his blows, Anakin often goes out of his way to use only one hand in combat to taunt his opponent, driving home how "easily" he can overpower them.
Obi-Wan is actually a really excellent match for Anakin, being a master of Form III, Soresu, which is focused on defense and economy of movement. You'll notice that while Obi-Wan is on the defensive the entire time, he doesn't actually get pushed back very often (at least not by an incoming strike, he actively retreats quite often). This is because he is able slip Anakin's powerful blows to one side or the other and maintain his footing. Most other combatants against Anakin would constantly find themselves having to repostition just to keep from getting bowled over.
I've been looking forward to this. My FAVORITE Star Wars movie ever, the true end of the story. This is "The Tragedy of Darth Vader".
Seeing Anakin's fall is truly heartbreaking because it was preventable. Knowing his noble intentions, it makes the turn more heartbreaking. The final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan is heartbreaking and has the best choreography in the entire series. The fight isn't speed up, the two actors spent months training and are actually going that fast. Hayden(Anakin's actor) even does his signature move in the fight, a back spin block with his lightsaber. It's a badass move.
Even after Anakin turned he's still The Chosen One. He killed the Jedi and then the Sith, bringing balance to the force.
Seeing how much Palpatine manipulated EVERYONE is truly incredible. In the end, the war and Anakin were only ever tools for him to gain unlimited power. It's never stated but Palpatine WAS Darth Plagues's apprentice and it's heavily implied that Palpatine used the Dark Side to put the dreams of Padme dying.
What makes Anakin's fall more tragic is that he was a slave basically his WHOLE life: he's a slave on Tatooine, he's a "slave" to the jedi order, he's a slave to Palpatine and he's only ever TRULY free by saving Luke.
Now it's time to watch The Clone Wars show, 10/10 show, introduces fan favorite characters, gives more context to Anakin's fall, and more.
I hope you have an amazing day Alex, May the Force be with you.
The last movie directed by George Lucas
The last Star Wars movie, yes. Not his final film.
The last Star Wars movie (excluding Clone Wars)
And also the last good one
The last star wars movie period
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48:48 That's actually a really interesting point. The immolation scene is almost the opposite of the phoenix metaphor.
So about Anakins fall.
Yes, he knew what he was doing was wrong, but at that moment he believed he was beyond forgiveness and beyond saving. So he fully committed to doing what he knew was wrong if the outcome meant Padme would survive.
And as we found out later on, thanks to his son Luke, he would stop believing that it was 'too late' for him
It's so sad when you finally realize something that you wanted so badly just is not going to work out. Tragic
You talking about Disney's Star Wars films? Lol, jk 😜
Yep, Disney Star Wars...
Anakin wait in the council chambers, oh by the way you are now a jedi master and a key to open a door behind my seat so you can get out a super nintendo and play super mario world while you wait
If you watched the original triology. You knew, that this would happen, but its not that sad, when its still just movie.
Qui Gonn spirit taught Obi Wan to become a force ghost, (at the end of the movie Yoda said to Obi that someone returned from the netherworld of the force). In all those years in solitude in Tatooine Obi Wan learnt it. That´s why he told Vader in episode IV: "if you strike me down, I´ll become more powerful that you can possibly imagine".
Padme’s last words: there is stll good in him
Anakin’s last words: you were right
31:30 It kind of makes sense here though, he knows he's done something awful, but he just aided in murdering a Jedi master. Makes sense that he feels that his bridges are burnt and his only choice now is to work with Palpatine in order to at least have a chance to save Padme.
I love that Padme’s last words seeped into Luke’s soul. He believed that there was still goodness in his father despite everything Anakin had become. He was right, and his faith in the love of his mother and his father became the catalyst for Anakin’s redemption, and the fulfillment of the prophecy. Forget the lasers, droids, and explosions, THIS is what Star Wars was always about.
It bothers me so much that the Kenobi show never even mentioned this. There are a lot of little things about that show that were kinda dumb but I could forgive, but I really hate that - after several mentions of Padme throughout the show - there isn't this moment where Obi-Wan tells Anakin that Padme had thought there was still good in him (or that he thought so), which would actually explain why Vader tells Luke that in RotJ. I feel like that was the ONE THING the show needed to set up and they just....didn't.
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Yeah, that show fell short in a thousand ways
Well said my man! It's that exact reason why Last Jedi pissed me off so much. It was absolutely contradictory to Luke's entire character.
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Exactly. The sequels fundamentally never understood Star Wars
My English teacher, senior year of high school, used Star Wars as a sole reference when teaching about Archetypes. He was a Star Wars fanatic (and so was I), so not only did it make it very easy to learn the material (because I was interested), but also learned so much more about Star Wars. The prequels are super underrated, those movies were my childhood.
This is probably common knowledge already but I heard Anakin tried that high ground maneuver because over the years he'd gotten obsessed with how Obi-Wan had beaten Darth Maul and believed he could do it too/do it better. Thought that was interesting
I always just figured it was how Obi-Wan knew exactly what Anakin was going to try to do; and he knew exactly how to counter it. Could be both, of course!
@@ElectricKnight. Maul was extremely arrogant, and didn't think Obi-Wan would be able to surprise him. It's essentially the roles switched around, if Obi-Wan was looking down on Maul, but instead it's him looking down at Anakin, who's arrogance is cranked up to the extreme.
Anakin did that move like twice in this mustafar fight. The third time was when obi wan chopped him. It is known that anakin tried to out do his master with his own move.
@@michaelgarrett139 It also tracks that the other two times he did it, Obi-Wan defended himself but held back from going for a killing blow because he was still trying to get through to him.
Have similar thoughts, Obi-Wan was once in that same situation and was luckily able to pull it off. Anakin, wanting to better his master, attempts the same move. Like Electric said, Obi-Wan was able to counter it because it was his own move. Master > Apprentice
20:05 palpatine is the apprentice of Darth Plagueis for anyone that does not know.
note: don't watch the sequels
Now you gotta watch Clone Wars and be REALLY emotionally traumatized. It gives this movie a whole new context
Oh yeah 😅
Nah, that's going to take months when it's a video every 2 weeks
Agree with this completely. Clone Wars really adds so much to Ep3. Also the final season is some of the best Star Wars ever.
Not really
@@golf-me2bhThe 7th season does.
Sir Christopher Lee is such a legend.
Fun Fact: General Grievous sounds like he's got coughers lungs because during the Clone Wars he fought Mace Windu who used forced crush on his body damaging his lungs!
Anakin is basically the “fallen angel.” Look up that piece of art and you’ll see the resemblance. There’s a shot during the final duel that mirrors the painting almost exactly.
I've met the actor that plays Palpatine during a Star Wars weekend event at Disney a few years back. He might play the evilest character in all of movie history but in reality, one of the nicest people out there.
Ian McDiarmid is an amazing man and actor. And one of my favourite things from him is a Shakespeareised Episode 6 Palpatine speech he did on a talk show.
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I bet that he was still disappointed he needed to come back to play in the episode nine, because Disney horrensoudly bad story writing for not having any villian, because the main bad guy Kylo Ren somehow turned to the good side and fell in love, while Snoke was killed of on the earlief episode like he meant nothing to begin with. I think Ian Mcdiarmid could still refuse to take part in the ninth episode, but did he do it, because of the money he gets from doing it.
@@jout738He also did it for the Fans...; as a "Fan service".
I just love that man ❤
16:49 "He says that to a stronger friend." When you look into it, Palpatine was acting more loving toward Anakin, the Jedi were pushing him down like a strict parents. That is part of why he turned, he was told "Don't do this", "That isn't the Jedi way.", and treated like a child.
Obi Wan clearly cared about Anakin, and gave him guidelines that would not only help him grow but would protect him/others from his worst impulses (we all saw what happened when he gave into those in AoTC). Palpatine wasn't trying to be a friend to Anakin; he blew smoke at him, telling everything Anakin wanted to hear about how he was better than everyone else, which only fed his worst tendancies. I'd rather have a strict parent/friend who calls me out when I'm being a moron than a manipulator who only agrees with me to get something out of me.
27:48 that's the whole point. they both have the power to end it quickly but their skills keep them in the fight until one makes a fatal mistake or hits a perfect strike.
Order 66 is the order that activated a microchip in all the clones. It makes them think that the Jedi betrayed the Republic and therefore committed treason, which is punishable by death.
The thing that sucks so much about anakins story is that the visions he was dreaming of padmes death werent telling him the absolute future, only the future that would occur if he chose the wrong path. It was broadcasting the cause of his self destruction as a warning, but it only fueled his descent.
I don't think that's true because his prior dreams, like about his mom, didn't come true because he went to find her - she had been captured & tortured long before he left to save her. I do think Palpatine could have been manipulating his dreams.
Nah this was all meant to happen. Yeah he caused her death but the vision was true. It literally happened exactly as he saw it. No it didn’t tell him the whole story but just like with his mom he saw exactly what was gonna happen. As much as we wanted Anakin to stay a Jedi the sad truth is Darth Vader was inevitable. Some might say that by becoming a Sith Lord, Anakin fulfilled his prophecy to destroy the sith since he in the end killed palps and died himself, effectively ending the sith. I’m pretty sure he could have survived with a quick bath in a bacta tank but vaders death was anakins redemption so it came full circle. It was all meant to happen as it did. Like a river, it flows and I’m positive no matter what he did the outcome would be the same.
@orphanedhanyou palpatine/the dark side manipulating his dreams is most likely true, however it is still influenced just a bit by anakins ability to see into the future.
@@wildmoose3979 agreed palpatine was willfully putting the visions in his mind, also there are similar stories in the Bible, there are many times even the good guys were commanded to kill all the children of their enemies, its conflicting the statement of "good guys" " killing innocent families and babies with swords"
"Don't kill him. Give him a back massage and a lobster" has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard from a reaction vid 😂😂
The light/dark lighting was undoubtedly deliberate. The whole movie plays out like a classic tragedy where the main character makes a series of poor choices that lead to their downfall. It's somehow worse here because people who have seen the OT know it's inevitable, but there were so many points where Anakin could have turned back. So well written!
I didn't watch the OG trilogy until about 3 years after ROTS and I was at the edge of my seat. It made it better, however, it made the OG feel boring to me lol. I still like them for what they are but I love that Vader got better scenes with modern tech cuz his and Obi Wand final battle was so... meh after watching the prequels lol
31:16 He has no choice at that point, he just helped murder Mace Windu, whether or not he wants to be evil no longer matters, he just helped kill one of the highest ranking Jedi masters. His past life is over now, and he's crossed the point of no return.
Love watching someone watch these with a fresh, open perspective. These movies get so much hate, it was nice to see someone appreciate them for what they are without the preconceived judgement. And yes you've seen Boba Fett before... lol
I love how Alex goes for sad to supper happy the second gold man coms on screen.
To answer you saying are you happy was it worth it, no. He hated himself after this more then anything or anyone. He was a giant mass of rage and sadness,which fuels the dark side
Anakin needed a father, not a brother. Qui-Gon's death sealed the fate of the galaxy.
Something you may have missed:
Senator Oregana told the officer to have the PROTOCOL DROID'S mind wiped, which is C3PO
R2's memory wasn't wiped, and he still has his memories from ep 123 in 456!
Damn, for 333 episodes?! 😂😂
Yep, R2 literally was at the forefront of most of the events of the entire series, he witnessed Anakin from the time he was a child alllll the way up to when he finally turned to the dark side. My personal canon for why they wiped 3PO is because the dude can't shut up and they don't need him giving away the fact that Leia is Anakin's daughter, Vader didn't even know that it was twins, and he would have presumed that the baby died when Padme died, so Luke and Leia were basically unknown at the time.
Revenge of the Sith is hands down a cinematic masterpiece. It may not have always been looked upon with such great interest but as Anakin said, “this is where the fun begins”
The journey through the Clone Wars will be quite interesting and will give you a new perspective at Revenge of the Sith. If you weren’t attached to Anakin before, you will be soon
clone wars needs to be next. Where the series peaks, the quality of Star Wars rivals the best of the movies, truly epic and tragic
no shit show that changes canon in a million different ways
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I love the animated clone wars series.
Rogue One needs to be next.
@@Prince_the_One u mean fills the holes in the prequels
8:44 general grievous is actually a warlord, turned droid by the separatists. He hates the jedi because they left his people in shambles, and he coughs because his lungs were supposed to have been crushed by his metallic ribs by a jedi's force power in a deleted scene.
One thing I liked better in the Novelization is that Anakin's motivation to be a master on the council was to get access to the restricted section of the jedi archives and save his wife.
That novel is one of the best Star Wars novels ever and improves on the story of this movie so much. Check out the TH-cam video called "The Hero With No Fear".
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"He cut your hand off, you wanted revenge." Revenge is not the Jedi way.
Only 3PO had his memory wiped. That's why by episode 4 he has no recollection of the other three films.
Just real quick to answer some of your questions. Palps has been in Anakin's ear since he was a child. Constantly manipulating him, and events around him. Including those dreams, and his mother being captured and tortured, and so much more. So it wasn't that Anakin just snapped one day to the dark side, Palps was setting that in motion from the start. And also, yes, Palps didn't lie about Anakins power. He has the potential to be more powerful that Palps and Yoda combined. But since Palps has been manipulating him all along, he's also convinced Anakin that he is lesser.