The Max is hands down the baddest motorcycle ever built. I had lusted after them since they came out in 84 and I was 14 years old. Finally bought one in 2014.
Greetings from Scotland. Got a 95 V Max a few months ago, absolutely love it so far, it's a low mileage Japanese import so really nice condition, completely stock except for the drill mod to the stock exhaust cans. Sadly the V Boost was not functioning when i got the bike but have a new (used) controller and servo motor to fit so hopefully that will fix it.
In the Gen 1, the air intakes on the sides were cool. Too bad they're not really air intakes, but rather the left "intake" housed electronics, and the right "intake" housed the coolant intake neck and thermostat. The Gen 2 however redesigned the intakes to actually take in air. Despite that, this is the best bike I have ever rode. I own a 2001 model with chrome cobra pipes, custom alternator and clutch plates, with a black gloss finish on the engine. It is simply gorgeous. A Beautiful bike with a beautiful legacy.
I owned the 1st generation 1986 the most fun for a street bike I ever had it's a motorcycle on steroids very gorgeous bike the only way to get to know how much of a beast it is ,is to take it for a ride
In 1985 this was a badass!! Bike at that time wasn't a bike like it. Wasn't a lay on the gas tank crotch rocket, nor was it really a Harley Sporter style bike either. But even some of the Harley guys that knew what it was would talk about how badazz it was. They put the motor closer to the front wheel to put some weight on it for the fast launch, And still seen one stand straight up with a 350 guy leaning over the handle bars. A 1985 Vmax was a beast of it's time and even a 1985 in the 90s got respect. Insurance said in 2 out of 3 people that own this bike died or were seriously injured. It's probably why you don't see to many. Vmax definitely started it's on revolution in them day. Just to clear up some specs 1985 top end at 147mph. Cop approved radar.
Back in the 80's, the Vmax and the Honda V65 Magna were the two big dogs that left sport bikes crying because they got beat by "cruisers". The V4 engines were BEASTS, that no inline could handle. I had a V65 and wanted to add a Vmax, but life, marriage and kids came along, but I will always have the memories of the pure pleasure it was to ride these two great motorcycles.
I had an 85 V65 Sabre and an 88 Vmax. The Vmax was hands down a much better bike. Really no comparison. I soon sold the Sabre and never looked back. I had to sell the Vmax in 92 to start a family and have always missed that bike.
I have a 97 max ! I've had it 20 years and if anything happend to it i would have to get another one ! I've fitted a steering damper and an overide for the V . BOOST . so I can have it in from the word go ! VIVA LA V MAX !!!!!!
I had an '83 Venture, with the original V-4 engine (without the V-Boost). That was absolutely the BEST BIKE I've ever owned. The Venture version of the V-4 was an outstanding engine. Although I've ridden several V-Max models over the years, it's still just a souped up Venture engine, one which would (although it was a bagger) would still outrun anything on the street, including KZ-1000's etc., and with the higher center of gravity, was as nimble as any sport or dirt bike ever. I regret never dropping the bucks for a V-Max, but with the Venture, never felt the necessity at the time. Would love to find one today in good shape to rectify that hole in my collection.
I have a mint 1985 Kawasaki ZL900 Eliminator. I use to ride with a friend who had a 1989 V-Max. He would let me ride the V-Max sometimes. Man, I loved that bike especially when the V boost kicked in.
Had an 85 Eliminator. I very much preferred it to the Max. I never lost a quarter mile on it so it was enough. It felt like it was on my side whereas every time I rode a VMax I felt like I was sitting in a small room with an unrestrained serial killer. I had some other 80s Yamahas and their build quality and materials didn't hold up to use. Always had problems. Never had a single issue with the Eliminator. I don't know what they're like today. Upped their game I hope.
In 1983 i bought a Honda V65, The fastest bike made at the time. In 1985 I wanted a V max very bad but never owned one . One of the things i liked about my V65 that the V max did not have was a sixth gear overdrive, i really liked the overdrive when cruising 70 mph on the hwy. If the V max had overdrive i am sure i would have bought one.
I am sure you are right, one of the articles i read in cycle world magazine in 1985 was that at 5000 rpm when the V boost kickin it was like getting hit in the ass by a semi hehehehe,... i know over the years the HP did vary, not sure what years had the most power. Righr now a local shop by me has a nice V Max for sale i believe a 2005 for $3900.00
Just to be precise: at 6000 the boost always starts. Below that, you have ~100 hp. There were mainly 2 versions: with and w/o boost. With boost you have 136-145 hp depending on country where it was built for. (different exhaust)
I have owned both the v65 and now a VMAX. there is no comparison. The VMAX sounds better, looks better and rides better. The v65 still impressed though, total sleeper bike no one expects it.
I currently have a 94 max. Stage 3 jet kit, kerker pipe. Scary fast. Just picked up a 2014 cb1100 f. Vmax will be getting suspension and brake upgrades.
I have #973 of first 1000 in 1985 and i am second owner . i have had sense 1989. until late 90's nothing could even keep up with it straight from factory and many still can not.
@@michieldeiman9977 so is 1985 the year that I want to buy? I'm looking for the best early vintage VMAX. I found one that was the first 200 made in 1985 that is still original paint and beautiful.
I miss my 1985 vmax. Sold it 15 years ago. My wife use to tell me she could me coming home from work from way off. It sounded different than other bikes.
Buddy of mine in high school had an '85 V45 Magna. this was 1988. We grew up riding dirt bikes. He let me ride it often. I absolutely loved that bike. And yes it was fast. by the time you got to the top end of 2nd gear you were approaching 100mph !! White letter Dunlop tires. It was sweet.
Bought my 2002 new and it has over 44k miles on it now. I didn’t care much for the way it looked until one pulled up next to me at a traffic light and I heard the engine idle. I was an amateur drag racer back in the day, small block Chevy Monza Spyder that had a few engine mods (carb, intake manifold, MSD ignition, exhaust, etc.) and I fell in love with the sound of the V-Max that day. Today I replaced the battery (3rd one) and spent ten minutes just standing behind it listening to the engine. Never crashed it myself but a deer knocked me off it ten years ago and I insisted they fix my V-Max instead of replacing it. Long live The Beast!
I still have my 1985 v-max They had trouble with the 2nd gear (Was changed) The seat was uncomfortable. I changed the seat for a 2007 v-max No problem after wards It's too bad that they didn't have a gas gauge. Cheers from Montreal Canada
Love this bike, and I'd have one in a heartbeat. However the crap at the start talking about airplane intakes....those "intakes" on the original V-Max were affectations which were blanked off and fed zero air to the carbs. The kick was given by the second choke butterfly opening at a certain rpm allowing a much larger charge to enter the engine.
I love the v4s so much I now own two a vmax and magna v45 coming from riding Harley’s in the past. I can’t believe the dif between v twin vs v4s 👍👍👍I’m now sure riding Harley’s is now in my past. Just ride and enjoy the journeys, stay safe out there all☮️
I bought a 94 magna 750 last year. I love it, I never thought that a mid size cruiser would have so much power. It still makes my heart jump every time I Crack the throttle. It really makes me want to feel the power of the 1200cc v4 bikes. Maybe one day I can afford to get a vmax.
Joe Mama my lady rides the magna, that bike still impresses me too. The magna revs 10k in all gears we bought it for 1200.00 it has 8k on it and its 2003 Tahitian blue. I just fired up both magna and vmax two days ago, we can’t wait to ride. Hopefully by April. Stay safe out there.👍😎
@@anonymouslegion4928 Mine is yellow. When I first saw it I was thinking goddamn it it's yellow. Then when I heard it rev up I didn't care if it was pink. I love the way it sounds. So many people around here ride Harleys and they all sound the same. The magna sounds so much better and I don't sound like every other bike on the road. I am really glad that I bought it. I want to get it powder coated but it's not in the budget right now and I can't decide on a color. Maybe a matte black would look cool. Anyway you guys be safe out there.
Joe Mama my vmax is yellow, at first I wasn’t crazy about it, but I’m having a hard time changing the color plus I hope yellow sticks out for the cagers to see me better 🏍👍
@@anonymouslegion4928 true, I have a 72 vw beetle that's orange and that's why I never changed the color. I feel more vulnerable driving that beetle than riding my bike. But I love it. It's like driving a go kart on the street.
Air intakes of a Vmax may have been inspired by jet engines, but the plastic faux air intakes are mere show. I still love the V-max. It was my dream bike throughout the 90s when I lived in Japan, and finally bought one in Los Angeles. I don't much care for the new ones.
I agree, I had a 1991 for over 20 years. They dont handle for shit on the corners but has great power off the line to launch. I didnt get beat much on that bike!
I purchased mine last september for $3000 It is a 1997 with holeshot exhaust, and the holeshot fan system. I have put about $1500 into it so far for up keep and it's worth every penny. What a thrilling ride and folks comment all the time about what a beast it is. Love my Vmax.
1500 upkeep, what did that entail? I'm wondering if these will become collectors bikes and worth getting for a weekend fun toy to hold onto for a investment but I dont fancy spending a ton of cash keeping it working..
The front on my 89 Vmax was an "afterthought". like they forgot to design it while focusing on its dragster like power. Might of been a Virago front end. Didn't turn well at high speeds. Keep her straight she handles great. I will be buying the 1700 someday. The Max doesn't accelerate....it launches!!
my cuz had the vmax open and gave it to me to drive it for a first time when i was 16 torque and acceleration was brutal ofcurse but no brakes and no chance to cornering fast and safe..
@@dennisschell5543 The V65's, as well as most if not all other bikes, were touted as having at least decent handling in the twisties. Yamaha never made such claims about the Vmax.
I had an 85, a beast for sure. The trick was to put a Venture Royale bottom end on it. 1340cc vs the 1200 and it was a bolt in. Added a chain conversion and a Kerker 4 into 1 and it would walk anything around. Too bad the handling was terrible and the brakes downright scary!
What does he mean by "the muscle car was coming into the market"? In the design days of vmav (early 80's), the muscle car had come into the market and left the market, years earlier. ;) I'm just sayin is all. And yes I own and love a vmax.
He was probably referring to the first 5.0 fox bodies and 5.0 Camaro's that were slowly but surely bringing the muscle car back to the American public. I sure didn't dream in those days that today I'd be driving around in a car like my ScatPack Challenger 🤠
first saw it 1985, maroon and wicked. kids,military service life in general made mr wait till 2005 when i finally got my red limited edition. worth the wait. Ripping down Ocean parkway past Jones Beach long Island or around Bear Mountain near West Point Max never failed to deliver what it looked like it could.Fast foward to 2014. Traded it in for V Max GEN 2. Max. The upshot ? Gen 1 is a large well trained but vicious dog. Gen to went to obedience school but still knows what you really want it to do. Anti lock brakes were as great addition. Air Horns that actually function (gen 1 is cosmetic,cool but cosmetic). Gen 2 is not cheap.Think Harley softail pricing. If you can afford it,worth every penny, if not Gen 1 is still a 1st class thrill ride. Om the look out for another 2005 to ad as a stablemate.
I've had Hondas , had Harleys ,had Buels,Vrods, I've had every type of bike there is, when I rode my first V Max and 1985 that's all I've ridden sense, I have a 20th anniversary right now, and would take that over any bike on the road, including all the pieces of crap that I one quarter-mile racing!
Hey Carlos. It's pretty good as a mile muncher. The problem is finding saddle bags that will fit around the stock rear signal lights. I would also strongly recommend getting a corbin seat, high windscreen, the t-boost and forward pegs. It'll never be an Electroglide, but it does have V boost :)
I had a virago xv535 and dreamed of owning one of these but kids came along and decided to play it safe for a while they've grown.up now though and these things are looking fairly cheap ...
It's funny when you google or wiki VMAX it usually comes up with Yamaha motorcycles and of course this Yamaha VMAX motorcycle debuted in 1985. Yamaha also had a snowmobile called the VMAX and it debuted two years earlier in 1983......my dad had one. So I always feel the snowmobile was really the real VMAX in their product line. As we know they later used the VMAX moniker again in their outboard line. My gut feeling though was the VMAX motorcycle was already a proto type when they named the snowmobile. The previous year snowmobile (top of the line) had an all new look and was called the SRX500. Previous versions were a 440cc engine. The 1982 SRX500 had some issues and they were quickly recalled by Yamaha. They made some changes for 1983 which included an even larger bore for the motor at 535cc's. At that time Yamaha must have wanted to drop or shed the SRX moniker and grabbed the new VMAX name to re-identify this as an all new machine and boost the sales from what was lost the previous year.
+Wade Jacobson Hmmm, maybe the idea was somehow similar, but the Magna is a "cruiser" style and missing some muscles. I think the Vmax is the most consequent "muscle bike". Even today.
Oscar Cat maybe? its a fact bro, who knows hondas motivation, showcasing off their new v4 engine with gear driven cams in a cruiser frame whilst at the same time giving the bird to every tank dipping crotch rocket out there seems like a good idea to me
+Wade Jacobson I remember lusting over the V65 Magna. I would visit the dealer showroom often to look at the Magna, and other bikes. But when the V-Max hit the showroom it was love at first sight. I could look at no other bike after that. I *had* to have a V-Max and was fortunate enough to get one eventually.
I had two of them over the years. Of all the different bikes I've owned over the years, inline sport fours , V- twins etc. the Vmax was my favorite. The gen two I didn't like the looks. Yamaha you should agin make the origional gen one and I would sell my 2019 Tracer 900 in a heartbeat.
amazing motor and design, terrible handling. i had one in 1996 but at the same time had a zzr 1100. used the vmax in the city and for short rides, and travelled with the ballistic zzr. i miss that vmax...you forgive it the fact of not cornering, cause it isnt made for that. im thinking to buy one and restore it and load it with upside down front system, big rim and disks front and back and have it only for me!!the wife can ride on the busa, but no way on the vmax! thanks for uploading, regards from Greece.
You can get an overdriven 5th gear. I know what you mean though. Just feels like the engine is really spinnin at 65 or 70 mph. Wish it was a chain drive. You could fix it pretty easy.
I've had mine since 92 bought it new. It now has flatslide carbs functional scoops, nitrous, ...pipe..extended swing arm etc. Not the fastest, just a cool old bike
To end this endless discussion I am willing to drag race against an unmodified Magna with my unmodified '85 Vmax! (145 hp) Write me and we can try in the area of Düsseldorf +100 km. :-)
true, Gen 1 air scoops are cosmetic,but" V Boos"t is real. The hood/engine cover (Not the gas tank like a lot of people think it is) seals the air box and at 8k rpm all 4 carbs feed all 4 cylinders.
In 1983 that was a pretty quick bike. Shaft drive so 5000 rpm launches didnt bring up the front wheel. The same shaft drive system the Vmax uses....... Now my cousins 2 stroke rd 400 would walk all over it in the 1/8 mile but it was 2 stroke and 2 stroke street bikes were on the way out. It was a, is, a great bike. Too bad it collects dust in my barn.
My Fat Boy always impressed the girls. The V-Max always impressed me. I loved having both. About a year after buying Mr. Max I gave it to my son. (He always wanted it anyway). That was 15 years ago. He still has it.
While the V-max was indeed a powerhouse bike with legendary design it was NOT the industry leader. Honda was the leader for YEARS in almost all categories. Mostly in the 70's, 80's and 90's. In off road, street and touring. Not to mention they also make some of the best generators, scooters and lawn mowers. They know a thing or two about engines. Then the revolution came. Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, ect, all uped their game. Now we have 200 mph bikes out of the crate for $15k or less. It's just insane. I give props to the V-max for being one sexy monstrous beast for the era though.
Dave, you are correct. I have a 1983 V65 magna. In 1984, they dropped the horsepower. Doing 95 in 3rd gear at redline is a real rush. 10.8 in the quarter mile.
hey man,well there pretty reliable if looked after.not to bad to work on..lots of spares! facebook vmax classic owners group best help anywhere! i ride mine to hell
It was a 1983 Honda V65 Magna that was the fastest. In '84, they dropped the horsepower. V65 magna was what the VMax was designed from. V4 Power...then Yamaha wanted one so they made the VMax.
i owned one and it was far from the fastest bike in the 80"s and did not do well at higher speeds. It was an okay bike but great i do not think so. I only owned 1 and never thought about a second. Nor is it down as one of my fav.
Bought a 85 in 87, had been learning how to race on a Honda Nighthawk S (700) before. In the beginning I was scared of it and no matter where I pulled up people made a fuss...... Till the 88 GSX1100 came out. My buddy and his twin brother both bought them... At the track I had a lot more experience and I would leave them off the line to the point it looked like a joke.... overtime they would come around me. I got rid of the v-boost, went with a Kirker 4-1 with a racing baffle (still that baddiest sound I have ever heard - pure pro-stock) but the bike just wasn't a drag bike. Say what you will, I really really tried and I was a good racier. My 82 GS1150 Katana was still faster. Best 1/4 10.01, no wheelie bar, no air shift. Thats with strapping the front down and doing everything I could. The 88 GSXr 1100 was just faster. I'm 49 and I found this video because I'm trying to find a 85... may not have been the fastest but I'm not looking for a GSXr1100.... tells ya what won me!!
Well, it may depend on your local market. In Europe there are only a handful of 1985 models (code 1FK) in original condition. (I have one, and I've seen 1 more a few years ago) As for most vehicles: buy the first or the final production series and don't customize. These will at least keep value or rise year by year. (A similar example for this is the iconic XT-500.) Today the 1FK Vmax will be from 5k€ in very used condition (>3) up to 10k€ in really good condition (
@@OscarVmax wow thank you for your expert information. I guess all 1985 Vmax are known as 1 FK. I thought maybe the first year had some Kinks that had to be worked out, but I'm going to try to find 85 or 86 the earliest possible. My first classic was a 1973 Z1 900 Kawasaki. I don't think any bike sounds as great as the Kawasakis of 73-80. But I always love the VMAX. My second bike was a Kawasaki Eliminator 900. But I still want to find the VMAX. Thanks again
@@OscarVmax do all the first year models have 1 F K in the serial number? I found a couple 1985 VMAX in the US but they don't mention anything to do with 1 FK. One is #179 of 1985 built.
the 1983 V65 Magna was the FIRST muscle bike and beat the Vmax in the 1/4 mile till 86 if I recall correctly. it was the world's fastest production bike for 3 straight years! give credit where it's due for God's sake. the Vmax is an awesome bike, but didn't start the genre, just ended it because it's hasn't had ANY competition since the v65 magna was around. and no, a vrod is not competition, not even TO the 1st gen vmax. that being said, I do love the vmax, it is a sweet machine. it's not made to carve the corners, it's made for acceleration and that alone.
I've heard enough. THE first muscle bike was and IS the XS1100. The first production bike in the 11's (11,7) In 78. It's true most all that's been said so far. And to date nothing has been built that has the engineering duty cycles of this machine. They were built to endure. And at 37 years old it still holds It's own.
Energy In Motion Reiki c'mon, that's like saying a impreza wrx is a muscle car like a GTO is a muscle car, apples and oranges. What Honda did with the v65 was very far from what all the UJM bikes were doing. The xs1100 wasn't the first of anything but rather one of the last bikes of the big UJM era. It's a fine bike, but in a totally different category than the big v4's.
I have the promotional poster from back then. 1985. "Baylands Raceway, CA. Yamaha's 145 HP Vmax becomes the fastest, quickest, most powerful production bike ever." Jay "Pee-Wee" Gleason 10.33 seconds.
Uh, I believe the Honda V65 Magna was the first Muscle Bike. The VMax would not even exist if there were no Magna. V65 Magna=1983 VMax=1985 . Seems like it took 2 years for Yamaha to catch up. BTW, I own a 83 V65 Magna and a 85 V65 Sabre.
Bought mine in 2003. 90,000 miles later.. Still running strong!! 👍
What year is your v-max? 90,000 miles WOW!!! 👍👍
@@expandingknowledge8269
It's a 2003. I bought it brand new
One of the most beautiful bikes ever made.
I had one. Never lost a race. Most didn't know what it was. Especially Harley guys. Loved smoking those dinosaurs.
Same here 😂
I have an 09 highly modified. The Harley guys don't even try. I rarely get challenged.
Had one of 85's there was nothing else like it. Just a rocket on wheels
The Max is hands down the baddest motorcycle ever built. I had lusted after them since they came out in 84 and I was 14 years old. Finally bought one in 2014.
:-) well done.
Bought my 1989 brand new and still have it.
I remember the week they hit the showroom floor. Nothing stock could catch them
bought a 1989 1FK full power 145 hp last year. Still in the process of restoration.
@@angelasangel6275 Until 1986--gsxr 1100 killed them
Dam, you must be in your 90s!
@@FERMBUDZZ : Ouch 🤣
Greetings from Scotland. Got a 95 V Max a few months ago, absolutely love it so far, it's a low mileage Japanese import so really nice condition, completely stock except for the drill mod to the stock exhaust cans. Sadly the V Boost was not functioning when i got the bike but have a new (used) controller and servo motor to fit so hopefully that will fix it.
I loved mine. Glad to have had it. Raced a lot of people who didn't know. They knew in a few seconds.
Breathtakingly fast, loved mine!
Had my 88 model for 23 years, absolutely nothing else gives the same fun 😊
I have a V-Max I bought it new in 1985 and still love it and ride it. I have other bikes but old max will still give me a thrill
Hi I am going to look at a used 1985 VMAX I was wondering what I should look for on that bike what sounds I should be aware of in the motor thank you
@@darmark7351 did you buy the 1985? I'm looking for the first year 1985 Vmax as well.
I wish I could afford it again...
Best bike ever!
In the Gen 1, the air intakes on the sides were cool. Too bad they're not really air intakes, but rather the left "intake" housed electronics, and the right "intake" housed the coolant intake neck and thermostat. The Gen 2 however redesigned the intakes to actually take in air.
Despite that, this is the best bike I have ever rode. I own a 2001 model with chrome cobra pipes, custom alternator and clutch plates, with a black gloss finish on the engine. It is simply gorgeous.
A Beautiful bike with a beautiful legacy.
I owned the 1st generation 1986 the most fun for a street bike I ever had it's a motorcycle on steroids very gorgeous bike the only way to get to know how much of a beast it is ,is to take it for a ride
This was my 1st bike that I ever owned . I had a 1994 Yellow that I bought brand new in 1995 !
And you lived to tell about it!!!
In 1985 this was a badass!! Bike at that time wasn't a bike like it. Wasn't a lay on the gas tank crotch rocket, nor was it really a Harley Sporter style bike either. But even some of the Harley guys that knew what it was would talk about how badazz it was. They put the motor closer to the front wheel to put some weight on it for the fast launch, And still seen one stand straight up with a 350 guy leaning over the handle bars. A 1985 Vmax was a beast of it's time and even a 1985 in the 90s got respect.
Insurance said in 2 out of 3 people that own this bike died or were seriously injured. It's probably why you don't see to many.
Vmax definitely started it's on revolution in them day.
Just to clear up some specs 1985 top end at 147mph. Cop approved radar.
Back in the 80's, the Vmax and the Honda V65 Magna were the two big dogs that left sport bikes crying because they got beat by "cruisers". The V4 engines were BEASTS, that no inline could handle. I had a V65 and wanted to add a Vmax, but life, marriage and kids came along, but I will always have the memories of the pure pleasure it was to ride these two great motorcycles.
I had an 85 V65 Sabre and an 88 Vmax. The Vmax was hands down a much better bike. Really no comparison. I soon sold the Sabre and never looked back. I had to sell the Vmax in 92 to start a family and have always missed that bike.
I have a 97 max ! I've had it 20 years and if anything happend to it i would have to get another one ! I've fitted a steering damper and an overide for the V . BOOST . so I can have it in from the word go ! VIVA LA V MAX !!!!!!
mine had t boost,it kicks in at 3,000 revs and metzler tyres handled much better.
I had an '83 Venture, with the original V-4 engine (without the V-Boost). That was absolutely the BEST BIKE I've ever owned. The Venture version of the V-4 was an outstanding engine. Although I've ridden several V-Max models over the years, it's still just a souped up Venture engine, one which would (although it was a bagger) would still outrun anything on the street, including KZ-1000's etc., and with the higher center of gravity, was as nimble as any sport or dirt bike ever. I regret never dropping the bucks for a V-Max, but with the Venture, never felt the necessity at the time. Would love to find one today in good shape to rectify that hole in my collection.
Legendary masterpiece of machinery
I have an 85 and an 88 v max,the 85 is in big lumps at the mo,just got the 88 back on the road,big grins!!!.
I have a mint 1985 Kawasaki ZL900 Eliminator. I use to ride with a friend who had a 1989 V-Max. He would let me ride the V-Max sometimes. Man, I loved that bike especially when the V boost kicked in.
jeffh58 man i miss my eliminator
That eliminator ain't no joke either.
I had that same year Eliminator and that fat back tire would rise up when I pulled a hole shot. It gave me chills.
Had an 85 Eliminator. I very much preferred it to the Max.
I never lost a quarter mile on it so it was enough.
It felt like it was on my side whereas every time I rode a VMax I felt like I was sitting in a small room with an unrestrained serial killer.
I had some other 80s Yamahas and their build quality and materials didn't hold up to use. Always had problems. Never had a single issue with the Eliminator.
I don't know what they're like today. Upped their game I hope.
In 1983 i bought a Honda V65, The fastest bike made at the time. In 1985 I wanted a V max very bad but never owned one . One of the things i liked about my V65 that the V max did not have was a sixth gear overdrive, i really liked the overdrive when cruising 70 mph on the hwy. If the V max had overdrive i am sure i would have bought one.
Trust me, you don't need a sixth.
I am sure you are right, one of the articles i read in cycle world magazine in 1985 was that at 5000 rpm when the V boost kickin it was like getting hit in the ass by a semi hehehehe,... i know over the years the HP did vary, not sure what years had the most power. Righr now a local shop by me has a nice V Max for sale i believe a 2005 for $3900.00
Just to be precise: at 6000 the boost always starts. Below that, you have ~100 hp.
There were mainly 2 versions: with and w/o boost. With boost you have 136-145 hp depending on country where it was built for. (different exhaust)
Thanks Oscar for the info
I have owned both the v65 and now a VMAX. there is no comparison. The VMAX sounds better, looks better and rides better. The v65 still impressed though, total sleeper bike no one expects it.
Nicely done Oscar .......... I have quite a history and fond memories of the Gen 1 V Max . Cheers Dale Walker
Hey man your famous for the Vmax i heard!!
Ride the boost
i have a 94 vmax i bought after my deployment in 2014. runs like a dream. that Boost is fun as hell .
I had one. Bad ass bike for sure. I'll have another one some day too.
I currently have a 94 max. Stage 3 jet kit, kerker pipe. Scary fast. Just picked up a 2014 cb1100 f. Vmax will be getting suspension and brake upgrades.
I have #973 of first 1000 in 1985 and i am second owner . i have had sense 1989. until late 90's nothing could even keep up with it straight from factory and many still can not.
+Carter Hall Keep it! :-)
Carter Hall i have #244 of first 1000 in 1985.
@@michieldeiman9977 so is 1985 the year that I want to buy? I'm looking for the best early vintage VMAX. I found one that was the first 200 made in 1985 that is still original paint and beautiful.
I miss my 1985 vmax. Sold it 15 years ago. My wife use to tell me she could me coming home from work from way off. It sounded different than other bikes.
That V-4 snarl baby!
the V45 was a bad boy also. lots of balls considering the displacement. The Yamaha V4 is just a beast.
Buddy of mine in high school had an '85 V45 Magna. this was 1988. We grew up riding dirt bikes. He let me ride it often. I absolutely loved that bike. And yes it was fast. by the time you got to the top end of 2nd gear you were approaching 100mph !! White letter Dunlop tires. It was sweet.
Bought my 2002 new and it has over 44k miles on it now. I didn’t care much for the way it looked until one pulled up next to me at a traffic light and I heard the engine idle. I was an amateur drag racer back in the day, small block Chevy Monza Spyder that had a few engine mods (carb, intake manifold, MSD ignition, exhaust, etc.) and I fell in love with the sound of the V-Max that day. Today I replaced the battery (3rd one) and spent ten minutes just standing behind it listening to the engine. Never crashed it myself but a deer knocked me off it ten years ago and I insisted they fix my V-Max instead of replacing it. Long live The Beast!
Beautiful!! An engine with handlebars and tires hang on to your seat
I still have my 1985 v-max They had trouble with the 2nd gear (Was changed) The seat was uncomfortable. I changed the seat for a 2007 v-max No problem after wards It's too bad that they didn't have a gas gauge. Cheers from Montreal Canada
Wow , a great bike and a ommentry that is not a robotic voice . Brilliant
Vmax was a real sensation I remember, I was riding a Kawi Gpz900 when it came out
Love this bike, and I'd have one in a heartbeat. However the crap at the start talking about airplane intakes....those "intakes" on the original V-Max were affectations which were blanked off and fed zero air to the carbs.
The kick was given by the second choke butterfly opening at a certain rpm allowing a much larger charge to enter the engine.
i love vmax!! 😍
This was the answer to the Honda V65 1100 Magna, which was one of the fastest cruiser in the early 80s.
I have a 1997. 55k miles. This machine is awesome
This is the best ASMR video ever. The narration puts me to sleep every time.
I love the v4s so much I now own two a vmax and magna v45 coming from riding Harley’s in the past. I can’t believe the dif between v twin vs v4s 👍👍👍I’m now sure riding Harley’s is now in my past. Just ride and enjoy the journeys, stay safe out there all☮️
I bought a 94 magna 750 last year. I love it, I never thought that a mid size cruiser would have so much power. It still makes my heart jump every time I Crack the throttle. It really makes me want to feel the power of the 1200cc v4 bikes. Maybe one day I can afford to get a vmax.
Joe Mama my lady rides the magna, that bike still impresses me too. The magna revs 10k in all gears we bought it for 1200.00 it has 8k on it and its 2003 Tahitian blue. I just fired up both magna and vmax two days ago, we can’t wait to ride. Hopefully by April. Stay safe out there.👍😎
@@anonymouslegion4928 Mine is yellow. When I first saw it I was thinking goddamn it it's yellow. Then when I heard it rev up I didn't care if it was pink. I love the way it sounds. So many people around here ride Harleys and they all sound the same. The magna sounds so much better and I don't sound like every other bike on the road. I am really glad that I bought it. I want to get it powder coated but it's not in the budget right now and I can't decide on a color. Maybe a matte black would look cool. Anyway you guys be safe out there.
Joe Mama my vmax is yellow, at first I wasn’t crazy about it, but I’m having a hard time changing the color plus I hope yellow sticks out for the cagers to see me better 🏍👍
@@anonymouslegion4928 true, I have a 72 vw beetle that's orange and that's why I never changed the color. I feel more vulnerable driving that beetle than riding my bike. But I love it. It's like driving a go kart on the street.
Not built for a left hand turn over street car tracks after rain. Closest I ever came to dropping any bike. Greatest straight line bike I ever rode.
I have mine and I love it!❤
Air intakes of a Vmax may have been inspired by jet engines, but the plastic faux air intakes are mere show. I still love the V-max. It was my dream bike throughout the 90s when I lived in Japan, and finally bought one in Los Angeles. I don't much care for the new ones.
I agree, I had a 1991 for over 20 years. They dont handle for shit on the corners but has great power off the line to launch. I didnt get beat much on that bike!
They are fake but they are not plastic.....they are aluminium!
I bought a brand new 1994 V Max in 1995 it was my 1st bike.
I had a 02 carbon fiber.
Lots of torque.
Only draw back was the small tank.
Didnt want to pass too many gas stations.
Nosé para mí la más bella de todas !!! Tuve una 1992 ,intentaron copiarla , pero es UNICA
I purchased mine last september for $3000 It is a 1997 with holeshot exhaust, and the holeshot fan system. I have put about $1500 into it so far for up keep and it's worth every penny. What a thrilling ride and folks comment all the time about what a beast it is. Love my Vmax.
I have a 96 vmax with holeshot exhaust sounds freaking awesome
1500 upkeep, what did that entail?
I'm wondering if these will become collectors bikes and worth getting for a weekend fun toy to hold onto for a investment but I dont fancy spending a ton of cash keeping it working..
How fast is it? I'm about to buy a 97. Coming from a 600cc spot bike so hopefully it's as fast or faster
I come from riding sportbikes and just bought my 1992 VMAX for $2500 I'm addicted to the bike and I own a lot of superbikes says a lot about the VMAX
The front on my 89 Vmax was an "afterthought".
like they forgot to design it while focusing on its dragster like power.
Might of been a Virago front end.
Didn't turn well at high speeds.
Keep her straight she handles great.
I will be buying the 1700 someday.
The Max doesn't accelerate....it launches!!
my cuz had the vmax open and gave it to me to drive it for a first time when i was 16 torque and acceleration was brutal ofcurse but no brakes and no chance to cornering fast and safe..
I ride my 1700 vmax all the time, great bike to race.
Brilliant man 😊
I want this bike so bad
I bought one of these in 85, it was sick!! Kept it for 30 years- what a blast it was! Sadly sold it a couple years ago ( wish I didn't )
damn, thats upsettting
Bought one in 1986, It was crazy fast and you had to hold on to tight and gas up often.
The "air intakes" are just covers housing electronics and cooling system components and take in absolutely no air.
Was true in gen 1.now in 1700cc gen 2 they are true intakes. Had a 20000 sold it bought a 2017.better in every way except price.
one side is closed one is open and it works
Bought mine and still have it well built machine and extremely fast. Love the vmax.
In my point of view, this is the only motorcycle created with the 1/4 mile in mind from the get go.
Julio....WRONG!!!
Honda Magna V-65 which ran 10 second ETs...
Suzuki Madura. For that one year.
@@dennisschell5543 The V65's, as well as most if not all other bikes, were touted as having at least decent handling in the twisties. Yamaha never made such claims about the Vmax.
Vrod screaming eagle
I always wanted one after my FZR 700.
I had an 85, a beast for sure. The trick was to put a Venture Royale bottom end on it. 1340cc vs the 1200 and it was a bolt in. Added a chain conversion and a Kerker 4 into 1 and it would walk anything around. Too bad the handling was terrible and the brakes downright scary!
BRING BACK THE VMAX!
What does he mean by "the muscle car was coming into the market"?
In the design days of vmav (early 80's), the muscle car had come into the market and left the market, years earlier. ;)
I'm just sayin is all.
And yes I own and love a vmax.
You're right. :)
Charles Carl neither car is a meant to be a muscle car you fuckwit. Ones a sports car, the other a pony car
Presumably referring to the resurgence in popularity of the 5.0 Mustang, with it's 175 HP V8 being considered 'a lot' for 1984-85 or so...
maybe he meant the 2nd comming of the muscle car after the gas shock of the 70s killed off the first gen of muscle cars.
He was probably referring to the first 5.0 fox bodies and 5.0 Camaro's that were slowly but surely bringing the muscle car back to the American public. I sure didn't dream in those days that today I'd be driving around in a car like my ScatPack Challenger 🤠
first saw it 1985, maroon and wicked. kids,military service life in general made mr wait till 2005 when i finally got my red limited edition. worth the wait. Ripping down Ocean parkway past Jones Beach long Island or around Bear Mountain near West Point Max never failed to deliver what it looked like it could.Fast foward to 2014. Traded it in for V Max GEN 2. Max. The upshot ? Gen 1 is a large well trained but vicious dog. Gen to went to obedience school but still knows what you really want it to do. Anti lock brakes were as great addition. Air Horns that actually function (gen 1 is cosmetic,cool but cosmetic). Gen 2 is not cheap.Think Harley softail pricing. If you can afford it,worth every penny, if not Gen 1 is still a 1st class thrill ride. Om the look out for another 2005 to ad as a stablemate.
one last thing,,if you go Gen 1 install a fork brace. its a cheap upgrade andworth it if you want to upgrade handling at speed
It was love at first sight,in 85 in 91 I bought one and still have it very special bike my zx14 is faster and quicker,but the Vmax is my favorite.
I love you Alice.
I've had Hondas , had Harleys ,had Buels,Vrods, I've had every type of bike there is, when I rode my first V Max and 1985 that's all I've ridden sense, I have a 20th anniversary right now, and would take that over any bike on the road, including all the pieces of crap that I one quarter-mile racing!
Ron Roberts do you recommend this bike for a long trip? I’ve had sport touring all my life but I’m very interested on the VMax
Hey Carlos. It's pretty good as a mile muncher. The problem is finding saddle bags that will fit around the stock rear signal lights. I would also strongly recommend getting a corbin seat, high windscreen, the t-boost and forward pegs. It'll never be an Electroglide, but it does have V boost :)
Yea get a Diavel
@@axs7689 : A Ducati?
Ducati is Italy's revenge for losing WW II.
@@cavechon : How often do you want to stop for gas?
I stand corrected. Thank you.
I love my V-max
I had a virago xv535 and dreamed of owning one of these but kids came along and decided to play it safe for a while they've grown.up now though and these things are looking fairly cheap ...
what seat/tail is that on the supercharged bike
It's funny when you google or wiki VMAX it usually comes up with Yamaha motorcycles and of course this Yamaha VMAX motorcycle debuted in 1985. Yamaha also had a snowmobile called the VMAX and it debuted two years earlier in 1983......my dad had one. So I always feel the snowmobile was really the real VMAX in their product line. As we know they later used the VMAX moniker again in their outboard line. My gut feeling though was the VMAX motorcycle was already a proto type when they named the snowmobile. The previous year snowmobile (top of the line) had an all new look and was called the SRX500. Previous versions were a 440cc engine. The 1982 SRX500 had some issues and they were quickly recalled by Yamaha. They made some changes for 1983 which included an even larger bore for the motor at 535cc's. At that time Yamaha must have wanted to drop or shed the SRX moniker and grabbed the new VMAX name to re-identify this as an all new machine and boost the sales from what was lost the previous year.
Enjoy whatever ground transportation while you can, as downed UFO reversed technology is about to eliminate ground transportation forever.
The Honda V65 Magna was the first muscle bike and started it all
+Wade Jacobson Hmmm, maybe the idea was somehow similar, but the Magna is a "cruiser" style and missing some muscles. I think the Vmax is the most consequent "muscle bike". Even today.
+Oscar Cat dude, the v65 was THE fastest production bike for something like 3 years....
+thepoultrypeople maybe yes, but was it really intended as a "muscle bike" instead of a "cruiser"?
Oscar Cat maybe? its a fact bro, who knows hondas motivation, showcasing off their new v4 engine with gear driven cams in a cruiser frame whilst at the same time giving the bird to every tank dipping crotch rocket out there seems like a good idea to me
+Wade Jacobson
I remember lusting over the V65 Magna. I would visit the dealer showroom often to look at the Magna, and other bikes. But when the V-Max hit the showroom it was love at first sight. I could look at no other bike after that. I *had* to have a V-Max and was fortunate enough to get one eventually.
Man, My 1986 was taken out when my house burned. I won't ride again until I can get a 1700.
The muscle bike of it's history
I owned 3 Vmax's , 1200cc
I had two of them over the years. Of all the different bikes I've owned over the years, inline sport fours , V- twins etc. the Vmax was my favorite. The gen two I didn't like the looks. Yamaha you should agin make the origional gen one and I would sell my 2019 Tracer 900 in a heartbeat.
amazing motor and design, terrible handling.
i had one in 1996 but at the same time had a zzr 1100.
used the vmax in the city and for short rides, and travelled with the ballistic zzr.
i miss that vmax...you forgive it the fact of not cornering, cause it isnt made for that.
im thinking to buy one and restore it and load it with upside down front system, big rim and disks front and back and have it only for me!!the wife can ride on the busa, but no way on the vmax!
thanks for uploading, regards from Greece.
More, more, more.
+Nukes Away See my new video of the Vmax 1700.
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I love my Vmax,but the need to give them 6 speeds instead of 5....
Agreed....I find myself still lifting for that last gear even after 20 years.
@@jh5881 Agreed
You can get an overdriven 5th gear. I know what you mean though. Just feels like the engine is really spinnin at 65 or 70 mph. Wish it was a chain drive. You could fix it pretty easy.
we need to contact Allen Millard to build us a 6 speed gearbox.. if anyone can do it its Millard
I've had mine since 92 bought it new. It now has flatslide carbs functional scoops, nitrous, ...pipe..extended swing arm etc. Not the fastest, just a cool old bike
The Vmax engine is not an original design. It is a slightly modified version of the Venture touring bike.
Isn’t the other way around? ......just asking
V65 Magna Vs VMax would be fun to see in a Half Mile Race ;)
To end this endless discussion I am willing to drag race against an unmodified Magna with my unmodified '85 Vmax! (145 hp) Write me and we can try in the area of Düsseldorf +100 km. :-)
I have both, a v65 and a v max. Different years, wish I could put them side by side on a track. Both are darn fast.
@@OscarVmaxi had a v65 bone stock and it dynode 108 to the back wheel. has a six speed. sold it unfortunately.
Interesting, the talk about air scoops. The original VMax had non-functional air scoops.
tmf
true, Gen 1 air scoops are cosmetic,but" V Boos"t is real. The hood/engine cover (Not the gas tank like a lot of people think it is) seals the air box and at 8k rpm all 4 carbs feed all 4 cylinders.
@@kaijunakahan7499You're close, but not quite correct. 4 carbs do not feed all 4 cylinders. At around 6,000 rpm 2 carbs begin to feed each cylinder.
@@johnjones5977 absolutely correct ! I have fitted a switch that gives me the V. BOOST from the word go ...
@@agohelliwell6755 ISNT IT JERKY ALL THE TIME..I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT.
The first muscle bike was the Yamaha seca 750. 1983, have one in my garage,
Its nice, but can 81 hp @ 230 kg count as a muscle bike?
In 1983 that was a pretty quick bike. Shaft drive so 5000 rpm launches didnt bring up the front wheel. The same shaft drive system the Vmax uses....... Now my cousins 2 stroke rd 400 would walk all over it in the 1/8 mile but it was 2 stroke and 2 stroke street bikes were on the way out. It was a, is, a great bike. Too bad it collects dust in my barn.
4 cylinder, 4 carbs and Yamahas twitchy YICS induction system, another pre cursor to the Vboost system.
So, you tell me, does it count?
Also the same shaft drive system used on the Vmax. 5500 rpm clutch dumps, nothing exciting the rear tire just spins a bit.
The VMax has been around since the mid 80s but I have only seen 3 on the road being ridden slow as a moped. 🤔
It is rare to see one. I get alot of looks from people and thumbs ups.. Or "Vmax, Right on dude, Fuck ya""
My Fat Boy always impressed the girls. The V-Max always impressed me. I loved having both. About a year after buying Mr. Max I gave it to my son. (He always wanted it anyway). That was 15 years ago. He still has it.
Some day you will ask to get it back.
While the V-max was indeed a powerhouse bike with legendary design it was NOT the industry leader. Honda was the leader for YEARS in almost all categories. Mostly in the 70's, 80's and 90's. In off road, street and touring. Not to mention they also make some of the best generators, scooters and lawn mowers. They know a thing or two about engines. Then the revolution came. Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, ect, all uped their game. Now we have 200 mph bikes out of the crate for $15k or less. It's just insane. I give props to the V-max for being one sexy monstrous beast for the era though.
No offence meant, but the V65 Magna was the first bike into the tens. Lusted over them at 18.
Dave, you are correct. I have a 1983 V65 magna. In 1984, they dropped the horsepower. Doing 95 in 3rd gear at redline is a real rush. 10.8 in the quarter mile.
Kawasaki's 1981 GPZ1100 had an official 10.93 ET.....; bought mine on-sale for $3895 in (normally $4395!) in mid-1982.
I have worked on V-4 engines before (honda...) but not Vmax. Anyone know how difficult to work on it?
hey man,well there pretty reliable if looked after.not to bad to work on..lots of spares! facebook vmax classic owners group best help anywhere! i ride mine to hell
I just rebuilt an engine from 86' and have very little experience with engines. It was pretty easy I think.
Nice bike,,but how about a v65 magna for a rush. 85 and 86,,after that forget it.
MyDitchdigger or yamaha fazer
It was a 1983 Honda V65 Magna that was the fastest. In '84, they dropped the horsepower. V65 magna was what the VMax was designed from. V4 Power...then Yamaha wanted one so they made the VMax.
How can I get that make
I DONT KNOW HOW TO RIDE MOTORCYCLES BUT I WANT TO BUY A YELLOW VMAX....I FIND IT SUPER BEAUTIFUL.....I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND TOUCH IT.....LOL
where did u c yellow v max
@@manahilahmed2197 lots of pictures online...its a standard color of vmax
@@EvendimataE you can always get it wrapped in yellow and preserve the actual paintwork under it
@@EvendimataE you can always get it wrapped in yellow and preserve the actual paintwork under it
Individual thinkers?! Give me a break. ... But I am a huge fan of the bike!!!!
i owned one and it was far from the fastest bike in the 80"s and did not do well at higher speeds. It was an okay bike but great i do not think so. I only owned 1 and never thought about a second. Nor is it down as one of my fav.
Bought a 85 in 87, had been learning how to race on a Honda Nighthawk S (700) before. In the beginning I was scared of it and no matter where I pulled up people made a fuss...... Till the 88 GSX1100 came out. My buddy and his twin brother both bought them... At the track I had a lot more experience and I would leave them off the line to the point it looked like a joke.... overtime they would come around me. I got rid of the v-boost, went with a Kirker 4-1 with a racing baffle (still that baddiest sound I have ever heard - pure pro-stock) but the bike just wasn't a drag bike. Say what you will, I really really tried and I was a good racier. My 82 GS1150 Katana was still faster. Best 1/4 10.01, no wheelie bar, no air shift. Thats with strapping the front down and doing everything I could. The 88 GSXr 1100 was just faster. I'm 49 and I found this video because I'm trying to find a 85... may not have been the fastest but I'm not looking for a GSXr1100.... tells ya what won me!!
The street fighter v max is the best bike in the world to me.
How is it in the twisties?
No idea what you ask, but the answer is: Very fast.
I'm looking to purchase a vintage Yamaha VMAX. What is the first earliest year that is the best?
1985. The engine was very reliable from the beginning. Some small invisible upgrades and you have a bike for the rest of your life.
@@OscarVmax thanks. What can I expect to pay for a very nice one? I'm going to look for 1985 VMAX. I see them cheaper in the 90s.
Well, it may depend on your local market. In Europe there are only a handful of 1985 models (code 1FK) in original condition. (I have one, and I've seen 1 more a few years ago) As for most vehicles: buy the first or the final production series and don't customize. These will at least keep value or rise year by year. (A similar example for this is the iconic XT-500.) Today the 1FK Vmax will be from 5k€ in very used condition (>3) up to 10k€ in really good condition (
@@OscarVmax wow thank you for your expert information. I guess all 1985 Vmax are known as 1 FK. I thought maybe the first year had some Kinks that had to be worked out, but I'm going to try to find 85 or 86 the earliest possible. My first classic was a 1973 Z1 900 Kawasaki. I don't think any bike sounds as great as the Kawasakis of 73-80. But I always love the VMAX. My second bike was a Kawasaki Eliminator 900. But I still want to find the VMAX. Thanks again
@@OscarVmax do all the first year models have 1 F K in the serial number? I found a couple 1985 VMAX in the US but they don't mention anything to do with 1 FK. One is #179 of 1985 built.
the 1983 V65 Magna was the FIRST muscle bike and beat the Vmax in the 1/4 mile till 86 if I recall correctly. it was the world's fastest production bike for 3 straight years! give credit where it's due for God's sake. the Vmax is an awesome bike, but didn't start the genre, just ended it because it's hasn't had ANY competition since the v65 magna was around. and no, a vrod is not competition, not even TO the 1st gen vmax. that being said, I do love the vmax, it is a sweet machine. it's not made to carve the corners, it's made for acceleration and that alone.
I've heard enough. THE first muscle bike was and IS the XS1100. The first production bike in the 11's (11,7) In 78. It's true most all that's been said so far. And to date nothing has been built that has the engineering duty cycles of this machine. They were built to endure. And at 37 years old it still holds It's own.
Energy In Motion Reiki c'mon, that's like saying a impreza wrx is a muscle car like a GTO is a muscle car, apples and oranges. What Honda did with the v65 was very far from what all the UJM bikes were doing. The xs1100 wasn't the first of anything but rather one of the last bikes of the big UJM era. It's a fine bike, but in a totally different category than the big v4's.
I have the promotional poster from back then. 1985. "Baylands Raceway, CA. Yamaha's 145 HP Vmax becomes the fastest, quickest, most powerful production bike ever." Jay "Pee-Wee" Gleason 10.33 seconds.
Uh, I believe the Honda V65 Magna was the first Muscle Bike.
The VMax would not even exist if there were no Magna.
V65 Magna=1983 VMax=1985 . Seems like it took 2 years for Yamaha to catch up.
BTW, I own a 83 V65 Magna and a 85 V65 Sabre.
You said exactly what I was going to.
Oh yeah! I too bought an 83 V65 Magna! I think the VMax surpassed the Honda ultimately. But the V65 was the first badass!
Ever hear of the CBX?? THAT was a Muscle Bike
Actually you need to look at the kz1000and the xs11 back in the 70's for the birth of the muscle bikes.
@@geneberry7114 yes I have, I'm looking for a 1050.
Vmax owners are more individuals , ohhh perrrlllleeeeeeezzzzz,
@fpineros22 neither do most riders .