I know it's a fun joke when they fire the person who doesn't work there but it always bothers me that the Karen gets their satisfaction. Karen's need to be told no.
Yeah, it just lets the rabid Karen think she won, and she will pull her crap on some one else. I would NOT allow this nonsense. Make the Karen understand HER eff-up. 🤨
If I ever become a manager and see a IDWHL story in progress, I’ll treat the Karen like the employee who should be helping the victim. “Just because you forgot your uniform doesn’t mean customers like him are required to have one.”
I was laughing people say this though because I used to work for Walmart and making sure we take our breaks... not allowing us to work off off the clock so that we're not working and not being paid ... maybe I just happens to work at one of the few decent ones but I did not feel like Walmart was abusive to us at all. Now some of the other co-workers were assholes a Walmart itself was not that bad to work for
@@Phil926 Trust me, they dont do that for your benefit. They do it to not get sued. I worked there too, and the same story, but its because they can get in trouble if they do let you do that. There can be nice folks, its true, and walmart isnt always a bad place to work. But it deffinitely trends more towards being shit than most, and has earned its reputation for a reason.
Story 2 - NEVER do a fake fire. If somebody does a fake fire to satisfy a Karen, _raise hell and demand their higher up and unleash your own inner Karen_ because this otherwise encourages Karens
More to the point, it's also bad for business. You are losing the customer you are fake firing in order to keep the customer who you already know to be an issue. While I agree that the fake fire encourages the behaviour, that's an intangible result that most managers won't consider; pointing out that you WILL complain to their own higher ups that you were treated badly by staff after being harassed by another customer is a tangible result that they can easily grasp.
@@cmlemmus494 But the customer is some idiot who thinks this is a 'fun move' to get fake fired and keeps going back for literally the rest of his life and spending thousands more dollars at the store, in addition to 'befriending' the manager who fired him. (aka knowing the managers name and the manager acknowledges that he's a "Store"-going bitch who will always come back due to knowing the people who work there) In most cases you would be analyzing this correctly, but sometimes you've got a little-bitch OP like this one, in which case the manager actually makes the right move since LBOP will never complain to corporate and the Karen might actually compliment him as a result of the fake firing. The manager made a calculated decision acknowledging the little bitch-ness of the OP and figured it was very low risk to placate the Karen so he did that. And LBOP who of course "was fed up with the Karen" simply took it up the ass.
Story 2: No! No! BAD TOM! *sprays Tom with water* You do not under any circumstances, literally regardless of the reason EVER cater to Karens like her, it'll just encourage them to keep throwing temper tantrums!
I understand why Tom did it but I still don't think it's a good idea Tell a random customer that they're fired because the idiot Karen thinks the random customer works there. You are empowering the Karen by giving them what they want and so they're going to keep on doing it to other people.
My response? I want corporate's number. Then complain to the higher ups that I was harassed repeatedly and instead of having the harasser trespassed, the manager allowed it and "fired" me. A customer! And will be sharing my bad experience with everyone
@@brianaschmidt910 Yes! Exactly! I HATE it when they “solve” the problem by pretending to fire the person that’s been harassed. You’re basically telling the Karen “Good job! That’s exactly what you’re supposed to do! Keep up that behavior because you’re always right and should be rewarded!” It’s WRONG and it makes the problem WORSE. They’ll just keep escalating to the point that they hurt people because they feel totally justified in doing so. And calling corporate is the exact right thing in that situation as a fired customer!
I am waiting for a Karen who gets an employee fired in such a fashion to be held accountable by being sued for their lies that got that employee fired.
I'll never understand why some people will "fire" customers just to please angry Karens. For every time they win an argument like this they'll be double the pain in the butt next time.
Because they’re amoral cowardly slimeballs who make decisions based solely on what seems the easiest for them and couldn’t care less about right or wrong.
Tom is such a cruddy manager. All he said was "Yes, Karen! Please return and assault customers and employees at your leisure". Zero respect for any manager that thinks just giving into the demands of these adult toddlers will end the issue.
I agree that making the Karen feel satisfied is not good, but sometimes its better to resolve the situation the and there. I mean really, whos time hurting by going along with the Karen.
I have no tolerance for managers firing customers just to make entitled idiots happy & feel like they got their way. They don’t deserve to ever be allowed to think or assume that.
@@erickpoorbaugh6728I mean you CAN but Tom is no longer there and as this was 10 years ago I am pretty sure they don't care. Especially seeing as your star witness, me, will deny everything
Story 2: Honestly, her just taking the smashed box with her isn't going to be the end of it, she'll probably try to scam a refund from someone else if the item doesn't work or something, I've seen a couple posts of someone trying that.
I'd tell her, "Yes, maam, you can absolutely have this for free. No problem. Let the cashier know you don't need to pay. Have a nice day!" 😊 Then watch the fun ensue........ 😂
@@lancerevell5979lol, at that time of day it was only Tom and me plus this lady. But it would have been funny to see her explain how I had given her the box.
"Don't shake your heads too hard" Is Fluff's way of protecting himself from whiplash claims but the laughs on him because I got a concussion from facepalming.
Story 1: sound to me that the stupid assistant is aware of his screw up and tried to cover himself by calling the police for a false assault charge so he can justify all this and avoid termination but OP, the manager, and the police are not fool for his attempted to save himself.
@@lancerevell5979- Why kick, it's called body/hip checking, right into the wall. And since he was on 911 and took my things I'd be screaming "Give my wallet back you F'er as I did it."
Don't forget, he also tried to lie about why he did it, couldn't just go with "I'm on a power trip and stupidly confused this customer for a coworker" no, instead he tried to falsely accuse someone of being a thief
And all of you saying I should have called corporate and had someone fired and blah blah blah? 1. I was not about to go LITERALLY miles out of my way to another store for YOUR sense of social justice. 2. This obsession with ruining people's livelihood by getting people fired and, as she put it "make them poor"? Clearly it is the kind that spreads. Who knew being a Karen was contagious, lol.
I've seen a few of these stories where the "employee" talks about their children, etc., and what being fired would actually mean. It's surprising how fast the reality of the threat will make some Karens realize they are in the wrong.
Dude giving certain people power will warp their mindsets. I have seen it happen time and time again. I used to work as a tech support agent for Boeing. I helped employees with their equipment. Either troubleshooting or replacements. The Floor Manager knew my mom when she still worked as an employee like my mother. I guess they had some kind of rivalry and my mother was always better than her. So the fact she was in direct charge of her son gave her a twisted chance to get revenge. This woman would write me up for the tiniest things. Would listen to every call I had to write me up for not saying exact words correctly or if I missed a step in troubleshooting. At one point I had enough. I contacted her superior to let them know she had some kind of vendetta against me. By the time they got around to doing anything the FM had already fired me. Like 2 weeks after I was fired an ex coworker told me they fired her for fixating on a specific employee in some sort of vendetta act. Like my calls were recorded for a year so they got to revisit those calls and question every nitpick she made that was just her being petty.
Story 3: That’s the second best Karen story I’ve ever heard. The best one was a gentleman who argued with the Karen about an eyelash curler. It was hilarious.
Story 5: Making a racist remark, that's common from racists, I'm not too surprised when that happens. Implying that OP's an illegal, that's crossing every line, that is not okay. Having a bad day? Keep it to yourself
Why would anyone lie about where they work?? Karens are so wrapped up in themselves that they actually think people would lie about where they work. Unbelievable!
With many Asian cultures, the worst thing that can be done is to be called "poor" or a "lower-class person". She thought OP was calling her that and I believe that is what set her off. She should have been "FIRED" as a customer.
No, dont ever go through the motions of firing non-employees to appease these people. You are only enabling this kind of bullying and it will continue if you don't do something about it.
As someone who lives in Reno myself, I can confirm that the city does have a big Filipino population but most of them are great people and great workers. I think OP worked at the Atlantis hotel/casino on South Virginia because there's a Walgreens right across the street.
Even if OP as well as "Tom" joked about it afterwards, I really, REALLY don't like how he appeased the Karen. Yeah, she got tricked - but she felt like she won. Which means she'll just continue her nonsence or get even worse.
I don't expect them to learn anything even when they get taught a lesson. A true Karen is a narcissist and rejects any reality in which they don't get their way as either being something that didn't happen or that they were a persecuted martyr because of it. That being said, a smirk is something that should be wiped off the face of a Karen as a principle.
I would be so pissed it that manager said you'r fired to me just to shut up the other person!! Good grief manager, do your job right or don't do it it all.
Karens keep doing these things because idiot store managers go along with them and pretend to fire the so-called employee. They will do this over and over because they were successful at least once. I’d report the manager to corporate if that ever happened to me; they are at least 50% of the problem!
Story number two: as someone who spent many years in customer service with a large swath of that time in retail and the remainder of that time as a server, I can tell you you never ever give in to a hostile or violent customer. You ban them and put them on the do not serve list. Now, with corporate establishments, that's a little bit more difficult to achieve because they can always appeal or tell some great big fictional sob story to the higher-ups at home office then get free stuff or amenities for life. With that said, Tom is a bad, useless conflict resistant manager. Playing along and coddling someone, who is so obviously in the wrong, while satisfying their delusions just to placate them by firing someone that clearly doesn't work for the establishment is tantamount to harassment. It only emboldens these entitled jerks to think that they can walk around like their stuff don't stink causing havoc everywhere they go. I would have ripped the lady a new one using so many four-letter words and vulgar language that it would have left her head spinning. I don't care how friendly the manager was with OP. Playing the devil's advocate and making OP a casualty of that Karen's narcissism just really irks me. I would have boycotted the place and wrote a not so nice review online.
Married to a Filipino here: the Karen is obsessed with "poor" because the vast majority of the people in the Philippines are poor. My husband grew up thinking spam was a delicacy. Milk for him was condensed milk or powdered that they had to turn into milk for the family. He told me once that if he were to return to the Philippines, his whole clan would come begging for money because they think all who live in the USA are rich.
Same here, just with a Filipina. We currently run a business in the Philippines and yes, "family" crawls out of the bushes everywhere we go and ask for a handout. Some of them even she didn't know existed until then. I'm European. It's not just the Americas, if you're white, they think money grows on your ears. Pretty disillusioning to be honest. They're really jolly and smiley though, I've gotta hand it to them. Credit where credit is due.
@@UsagiArwen That I haven't heard yet, but considering how they reacted to my wife's return, I can see that being the case. Haven't really had that much opportunity to really speak with the family, cuz they're too shy to speak English with me except for a niece and my sister in law (mostly I just converse with my customers) and I'm still struggling with learning Waray. Oblviously I talk with my wife also, but we don't speak much about what she describes as "negative topics".
Name tag story: I won't go out of my way to wear blue to Walmart or Best Buy and red to Target, but I do own shirts in those colors and if I'm out and about needing to stop in to one of those stores, I will do so. If mistaken for an employee, I'll be polite... at first. But if you get rude with me or are stupid enough to put your hands on me, I'll ensure that you will regret having done so. Puppy food story: I'm glad you got away with that OP. But don't the stores there have security cameras that could have verified what Karen was saying? Last story: EXCELLENT job OP! You handled that very well.
I started working in libraries in 7th grade, through high school. Worked the local library. Then moved into bookstores and was assistant manager. So, I have a huge OCD problem with shelved books (yes, it's real OCD, not just a label). I will start alphabetizing, series number straightening, and facing out books on a shelf just out of habit and the fact that disordered books make me nuts. Even in my old age, I have been asked about books and I can usually tell them where they are but I always tell them that if the book isn't on the shelf, I can't do the look-up, they have to find a real employee. I've never been cussed out but there have been a couple of people insist I'm not looking hard enough. Sheesh, lady, I'm in my 60s, you think I'm working here? Sorry.
OP and the Employee are fortunate that Karen didn't demand they check the Cameras...that would show that Karen, OP and the poor Employee DID in fact have an interaction shortly before she checked out... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Greaaaat now that Karen gets to continue to live in her deluded world where she's the most important person to ever exist. I hate when people coddle Karens, it completely enables their entitled nonsense.
Story 5: OP should have made Karen’s day worse. She was totally lying about having a bad day. And even if she did have something that could be considered a “bad day”, racists don’t have feelings anyway, so it wouldn’t even affect her at all to begin with.
To all the Managers that have to deal with Karen's, never, Never, NEVER EVER give them what they want! Do NOT EVER pretend to Fire or Write Someone up simply because a Karen demands you do it!!! Just tell the Karen to Shut the fuck up and get out of the store before the Police are called and they get Arrested for Harassment and Trespassing!
Story 1, the dumb assistant manager only lied because he trying to get op in trouble and probably to try to cover up his mistake but instead he dug himself a really deep hole and made himself look horrible Infront of his boss.
“What is it with these Karen’s that want people to get fired?” “Miserable being must make more miserable being. Then, he is happy.” Boris- Lady and the Tramp. 🤷♀️
wow a filipina karen. we have tons of them here in the philippines for sure but very few landing in these reddit videos. as a filipino, am very sorry for your interaction with her...that predisposition with poverty is probably her insecurity creeping through.
Story 5: OP should have told their parents and told the manager and called the cops. Never Ever Not press charges against a Karen. A little time in jail will help them realize that their attitude is unacceptable.
I say this most posts, but it always, every single time, baffles me employers and customers honestly believe they can assault people straight up. The lovely people in the comments have assured me it's because they have always been bullies, and always got away with it. Oh well, it's never too early or late to start pressing charges.
Story 3 - OP may have had fun, but he could have picked a different tactic to rescue the employee than one that inflicted Karen on more employees. Story 4 - Be consistent, Fluff! If it was funny to mess around with Karen which resulted in other employees getting harassed, why is it bad that OP's actions here result in other employees getting in trouble. I'm so disappointed in you.
Story 1: When he told you to follow him,you should just have said no thanks,turned around and walked towards the cash register,and if he then tried to restrain you,well that is kidnapping,and if he tried to tell the police that you tried to steal the dvd's,you should just point out it's not considered stealing before you leave the store.
Story 2: Must...control...fists...of...death! Shoes have HEELS, not HEALS. Curse you, autocaption! To answer your question of why people want to have others fired, I think it's because they actually have low self-esteem, and getting a manager to fire someone, especially when they don't actually deserve firing, is their only feeling of power. They can't resist getting that thrill of changing the course of someone else's life. So the answer is: They get off on it. It's sick, but they do.
At the start of the story, OP mentioned the story being about 20 years old, so they might not have had cameras in the store. Or at least not higher quality ones like there are now.
This was 20 years ago. He also walked her deliberately to a area with few people. Guy was a real piece of work. If he'd been a better lier she'd been in trouble.
I'm half Filipino and have been living in the Philippines for years, but since I grew up overseas I'm more western leaning in terms of culture and attitude. The Philippines is definitely still a 3rd world country despite ongoing development and there are a lot of people living in extreme poverty. A lot of people here, especially those that "make it out" are extremely classist and it also shows in the work environment. I'm not saying that every Filipino is like this, but dear lord the stories I could tell... The most recent encounter: One lady cut the line in front of us to get to the parking lot when my family and I headed out to the local mall, and when we told her to get back in line, she first pretended like she "hadn't seen" us, (BS, she literally had to drive around us and forced her way to the front) and when that didn't work she ranted (in a heavy Filipino accent) about how she was an American citizen and therefore deserved preferential treatment.
During my last job in customer service, I absolutely had some options depending on how the customer was behaving 😈 If the customer was pleasant, I would give them the best service ever, with some extra compliments. If the customer was neutral, I would be neutral in my responses too, that is still okay. If they were a bit unpleasant, I would be a bit sharp in my tone, without being rude altogether. However, if I was greeted with shouting, you'll bet yo ass if that call lasted less than 30 seconds
On the other side of the same dumb ass coin...I wear a T-shirt with the company name and a name tag with my name and the company's name on it and people will look at these things and still ask me if I work there.
@@mbyerly9680 I suppose that's true but those who work with the public still judge because we have to deal with so many moments of stupidity on the daily.
@@charmedleblanc yeah just ask "would you be able to help me" instead of asking if they work there. They'd be more inclined to assist, without judgement. Customer service workers have to deal with rude idiots all day every day so a polite request for assistance goes a very long way.
It is like when I worked at a museum and there was a big sign saying MUSEUM and people still from time to time asked "is this the restaurant?" or just walked in without paying, already decided that it IS the restaurant. Confimation bias I think it is called, when you only tend to see things that confirms you are right and disregard everything that says you are wrong
Story 4 why should it be up to OP to tell them that they aren’t Adrian. First of all the manager and the rest of the people, working there should know what Adrian looks like. I find it a bit strange when they don’t even, know what a person looks like that works there. Here in New Zealand, I’ve worked for a big company over 600 people and everybody knew who I was, by face.
story #4: every time I use a store's bathroom thats in same area as employee station (like same hall or in the back) I fear Ill be confused for an employee
Story number five, I also suffer from extreme OCD mixed with extreme bipolar manic disorder. And yes I understand when you go into a place of business such as a supermarket or any retail situation and the shelves are a freaking mess or things are out of place. Like believe me, there is nothing that will set me off more than things not in their designated places or looking the way I feel they should look! However, barring all of this in mind I understand that it's not my job to rearrange or face or front product in a store. Not only does it cause people to pay you undo attention that is not wanted, but say there was some planogram setup and by doing what you're doing technically screws up someone's hard work. And it can also cause people confusion who will then approach the person who they literally see standings or sitting or kneeling or reaching up high to place things back in their rightful spot. People assume that you work there. And being an introvert as I assume The OP was or is, this is not the freaking End Result being looked for. So yes if you have OCD and you can't control it then you need to know about it and educate yourself on how to deal with it because yes while a lot of people don't mind somebody coming in and actually doing the store favor by fixing up and fronting all of their shelves in their displays, it really can cause unneeded drama and unwanted attention from usually the scum of the scum-of-the-earth, people that are lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut
I hate when managers pretend to fire customers. Karens wouldn't be shrieking like spoiled children in stores if it didn't consistently get them what they want!!
Lol, I'm sorry but as a Filipino l, story 2 just made me think of my mom who would have been confused and then just left so she didn't have to deal with it anymore. Also "Tag-alog" lol FYI for those wondering, it's pronounced "ta-ga-log"
OMG! I'm so glad you're safe! I was just thinking about you. I lived on Oahu for 3 years, and visited Maui once. It breaks my heart to see what happened. 😭 (hugs)
Story 2: that manager is just enabling people like her by doing that. Dude actually does need to lose his job as people like him make life difficult for people
Yeah. I was just about to comment on that then I saw your comment. Placating these problem customers only emboldens them by negatively reinforcing their toxic behaviour. They need to be taught, because obviously they didn't learn it as children, that the world doesn't revolve around them nor will they always get their way.
I absolutely refuse to play the let-me-pretend-to-fire-you game; if I am a customer I will be treated with the same respect if not better than a karen.
Ugh that filpino Karen... Never give Karens satisfaction. NEVER. Roger "The Troll" Pattel, though... gaslighting is never ok but it's a lot less bad in this case. That teen is an incredible human. I would have 100% pressed charged and told her her day was about to get a lot worse. I'm not an incredible human (at least not in the kindness-to-Karens department)
🤬🤬🤬 *Story about Adrian* *Why in hell is ANYONE mad at OP?! He did absolutely nothing wrong!* *The stupid ass mgr, however, DID! He should know who his employees are for God's sake! Not to mention he should not be following them into the bathroom or speaking to them like that!* *I think what OP did is brilliant! Too many of these "Karen type" people and shitty mgrs are getting away with this shit too often!*
I think if a manager ever tried to pull the fake 'you're fired' at me for a Karen I'd just ignore them lmao You have no power here Karen, even if the manager is too tired to still fight you.
I would have turned to the manager and yelled, "NO. YOU'RE FIRED." Then I would have went on a big rant yelling at him and wagging my finger in his face.
I also tend to neaten things up in stores. I've never been mistaken for a worker though. Or at least not that I can remember. My dad's been mistaken a few times but he likes to cause drama so I have no idea how much of his stories are his own fault.
Story 1: A new manager, 2 days on the job, with a power complex getting over his head never ceases to amaze. What's more, he tried to cover his ass when the police asked, because he couldn't admit he was wrong. Just saying, I would be considering follow up with that guys references, especially with a second day hire ending with assault.
Dont just sue the guy, sue the company too. More money to be had. And if a manager tries to fire me for the sake of a Karen? Yeah my lawyer will contact your company... I also teach my kids to yell security at the loudest volume they can. 😂 Nobody will get away with bothering them.
I know it's a fun joke when they fire the person who doesn't work there but it always bothers me that the Karen gets their satisfaction. Karen's need to be told no.
Yeah, it just lets the rabid Karen think she won, and she will pull her crap on some one else. I would NOT allow this nonsense. Make the Karen understand HER eff-up. 🤨
It also incentivises them to pull this crap again
I think it makes them more likely to escalate to assaulting people.
If I ever become a manager and see a IDWHL story in progress, I’ll treat the Karen like the employee who should be helping the victim. “Just because you forgot your uniform doesn’t mean customers like him are required to have one.”
I would've told him he just lost a customer because he gave her exactly what she wanted
“I was at the big store famous for abusing employees.”
Me: “That doesn’t really narrow things down, chief.”
I’m assuming Walmart but honestly the possibilities are depressingly ample.
I was laughing people say this though because I used to work for Walmart and making sure we take our breaks... not allowing us to work off off the clock so that we're not working and not being paid ... maybe I just happens to work at one of the few decent ones but I did not feel like Walmart was abusive to us at all. Now some of the other co-workers were assholes a Walmart itself was not that bad to work for
@@Phil926 Trust me, they dont do that for your benefit. They do it to not get sued. I worked there too, and the same story, but its because they can get in trouble if they do let you do that. There can be nice folks, its true, and walmart isnt always a bad place to work. But it deffinitely trends more towards being shit than most, and has earned its reputation for a reason.
"Do you have even the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
@@bobbilly3606 I think most of the crappy ones are in FL
Story 2 - NEVER do a fake fire. If somebody does a fake fire to satisfy a Karen, _raise hell and demand their higher up and unleash your own inner Karen_ because this otherwise encourages Karens
OP is just a little wimp so he was happy with it and kept shopping there forever.
More to the point, it's also bad for business. You are losing the customer you are fake firing in order to keep the customer who you already know to be an issue. While I agree that the fake fire encourages the behaviour, that's an intangible result that most managers won't consider; pointing out that you WILL complain to their own higher ups that you were treated badly by staff after being harassed by another customer is a tangible result that they can easily grasp.
@@cmlemmus494 But the customer is some idiot who thinks this is a 'fun move' to get fake fired and keeps going back for literally the rest of his life and spending thousands more dollars at the store, in addition to 'befriending' the manager who fired him. (aka knowing the managers name and the manager acknowledges that he's a "Store"-going bitch who will always come back due to knowing the people who work there)
In most cases you would be analyzing this correctly, but sometimes you've got a little-bitch OP like this one, in which case the manager actually makes the right move since LBOP will never complain to corporate and the Karen might actually compliment him as a result of the fake firing. The manager made a calculated decision acknowledging the little bitch-ness of the OP and figured it was very low risk to placate the Karen so he did that. And LBOP who of course "was fed up with the Karen" simply took it up the ass.
Let it be forever decreed, that if a manager attempts to fake fire you, IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY TO UNLEASH YOUR INNER BITCH!
Agreed. The store is losing the wrong customer. Keeping the rabid entitled Karen is a very bad policy. 😡
Story 2: No! No! BAD TOM! *sprays Tom with water* You do not under any circumstances, literally regardless of the reason EVER cater to Karens like her, it'll just encourage them to keep throwing temper tantrums!
I understand why Tom did it but I still don't think it's a good idea Tell a random customer that they're fired because the idiot Karen thinks the random customer works there. You are empowering the Karen by giving them what they want and so they're going to keep on doing it to other people.
My response? I want corporate's number. Then complain to the higher ups that I was harassed repeatedly and instead of having the harasser trespassed, the manager allowed it and "fired" me. A customer! And will be sharing my bad experience with everyone
@@brianaschmidt910 Yes! Exactly! I HATE it when they “solve” the problem by pretending to fire the person that’s been harassed. You’re basically telling the Karen “Good job! That’s exactly what you’re supposed to do! Keep up that behavior because you’re always right and should be rewarded!” It’s WRONG and it makes the problem WORSE. They’ll just keep escalating to the point that they hurt people because they feel totally justified in doing so. And calling corporate is the exact right thing in that situation as a fired customer!
I fully agree
Behavior that is rewarded will be repeated.
I am waiting for a Karen who gets an employee fired in such a fashion to be held accountable by being sued for their lies that got that employee fired.
I'll never understand why some people will "fire" customers just to please angry Karens. For every time they win an argument like this they'll be double the pain in the butt next time.
Because they’re amoral cowardly slimeballs who make decisions based solely on what seems the easiest for them and couldn’t care less about right or wrong.
And it encourages the rabid Karen to continue her BS on other customers.
Story 2: no, that was wrong, you dont reward that behavior. The manager took the lazy way out.
It’s an invitation to continue and even escalate.
You ask the Karen, if I fire him, u have to pay severance, name a number, if she is willing to pay it
After saying that the person doesn't work here
It was 3 am.
Story 2:
That’s so disgusting that the manager pretend fired OP. All it does is reinforce her behavior. Gross.
Tom is such a cruddy manager. All he said was "Yes, Karen! Please return and assault customers and employees at your leisure".
Zero respect for any manager that thinks just giving into the demands of these adult toddlers will end the issue.
Any manager that does that should be immediately fired. They're the reason why so many Karens are running rampant today.
Story 2:
Tom is a bad manager. You NEVER let Karen think she got her way. That makes me really annoyed.
Same. It pisses me off every time. No one should validate that behavior.
Very bad manager. Letting Karen think she got her way by feeding her ego. It’s pathetic
I can relate to the sentiment, but it is not a store manager's job to fix what someone's parents messed up 50 years ago.
@@1Apep1 But he shouldn’t be encouraging her behavior like that tho
I agree that making the Karen feel satisfied is not good, but sometimes its better to resolve the situation the and there. I mean really, whos time hurting by going along with the Karen.
Story 3: We need more gut-busting Karen stories like this. Thank you for sharing.
I have no tolerance for managers firing customers just to make entitled idiots happy & feel like they got their way. They don’t deserve to ever be allowed to think or assume that.
That’s when you call corporate, leave reviews naming the manager, etc.
@@erickpoorbaugh6728I mean you CAN but Tom is no longer there and as this was 10 years ago I am pretty sure they don't care. Especially seeing as your star witness, me, will deny everything
I would just cuss out the manager for being an idiot and appeasing a Karen and walk out of the store.
Story 2: Honestly, her just taking the smashed box with her isn't going to be the end of it, she'll probably try to scam a refund from someone else if the item doesn't work or something, I've seen a couple posts of someone trying that.
I'd tell her, "Yes, maam, you can absolutely have this for free. No problem. Let the cashier know you don't need to pay. Have a nice day!" 😊
Then watch the fun ensue........ 😂
@@lancerevell5979lol, at that time of day it was only Tom and me plus this lady. But it would have been funny to see her explain how I had given her the box.
Story 4: Nah why bother confronting a manager like that. Not worth it if they don’t even know their own workers. Good for the OP.
After a tiring day of work, no better way to unwind than to shake my head at other people’s crazy.
Agreed! Retired and recognizing lots of folks I know!
So agree.
i agree sadly im watching these at work atm
"Don't shake your heads too hard" Is Fluff's way of protecting himself from whiplash claims but the laughs on him because I got a concussion from facepalming.
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This is why they need to have employee meetings more often so that employees and managers don't have this kind of confusion.
Story 1: sound to me that the stupid assistant is aware of his screw up and tried to cover himself by calling the police for a false assault charge so he can justify all this and avoid termination but OP, the manager, and the police are not fool for his attempted to save himself.
OP should have kicked him in the nads hard, for the assault and theft. 😡
@@lancerevell5979I would had done that tbh
@@lancerevell5979- Why kick, it's called body/hip checking, right into the wall. And since he was on 911 and took my things I'd be screaming "Give my wallet back you F'er as I did it."
Apparently he thinks the security cameras will work in his favour.
"Fire them and make them poor" has the same energy as "send him to the principle's office and have him expelled!"
Story 1 - That dude was definitely fired and blacklisted. One of the biggest nonos is attacking a customer
Don't forget, he also tried to lie about why he did it, couldn't just go with "I'm on a power trip and stupidly confused this customer for a coworker" no, instead he tried to falsely accuse someone of being a thief
OMG!! The Walgreens story is me!!
I mean literally this is a story I posted on Reddit. I can't believe you told my story!! I am linking EVERYONE!!
And all of you saying I should have called corporate and had someone fired and blah blah blah?
1. I was not about to go LITERALLY miles out of my way to another store for YOUR sense of social justice.
2. This obsession with ruining people's livelihood by getting people fired and, as she put it "make them poor"? Clearly it is the kind that spreads. Who knew being a Karen was contagious, lol.
I've seen a few of these stories where the "employee" talks about their children, etc., and what being fired would actually mean. It's surprising how fast the reality of the threat will make some Karens realize they are in the wrong.
I've seen those too.
Karens don't care about anyone but themselves.
Dude giving certain people power will warp their mindsets. I have seen it happen time and time again.
I used to work as a tech support agent for Boeing. I helped employees with their equipment. Either troubleshooting or replacements. The Floor Manager knew my mom when she still worked as an employee like my mother. I guess they had some kind of rivalry and my mother was always better than her. So the fact she was in direct charge of her son gave her a twisted chance to get revenge. This woman would write me up for the tiniest things. Would listen to every call I had to write me up for not saying exact words correctly or if I missed a step in troubleshooting. At one point I had enough. I contacted her superior to let them know she had some kind of vendetta against me. By the time they got around to doing anything the FM had already fired me. Like 2 weeks after I was fired an ex coworker told me they fired her for fixating on a specific employee in some sort of vendetta act. Like my calls were recorded for a year so they got to revisit those calls and question every nitpick she made that was just her being petty.
Story 3:
That’s the second best Karen story I’ve ever heard. The best one was a gentleman who argued with the Karen about an eyelash curler. It was hilarious.
Story 5: Making a racist remark, that's common from racists, I'm not too surprised when that happens. Implying that OP's an illegal, that's crossing every line, that is not okay. Having a bad day? Keep it to yourself
"Please, I'm having a bad day!"
"Thanks to you, I am also having a bad day."
"Lady, you think you're having a bad day? Well, thanks to you spreading it around, your day is going to get a whole lot worse."
Or stay at home until the bitchiness fades out. Sometimes, you just shouldn't walk among other people.
TBH Story 5 doesn't make much sense. You can work at 14, and "press charges" for what? Being rude?
CAN'T WORK LEGALLY IN UNITED STATES UNTIL YOUR 16 YEARS OLD! I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES!
Why would anyone lie about where they work?? Karens are so wrapped up in themselves that they actually think people would lie about where they work. Unbelievable!
I work for the FBI.
With many Asian cultures, the worst thing that can be done is to be called "poor" or a "lower-class person". She thought OP was calling her that and I believe that is what set her off. She should have been "FIRED" as a customer.
The dog food story has to be one of my favourites of all time😊
Lady in the second story was just looking to hurt someone, and hopefully get a discount at the same time
No, dont ever go through the motions of firing non-employees to appease these people. You are only enabling this kind of bullying and it will continue if you don't do something about it.
As someone who lives in Reno myself, I can confirm that the city does have a big Filipino population but most of them are great people and great workers. I think OP worked at the Atlantis hotel/casino on South Virginia because there's a Walgreens right across the street.
Even if OP as well as "Tom" joked about it afterwards, I really, REALLY don't like how he appeased the Karen. Yeah, she got tricked - but she felt like she won. Which means she'll just continue her nonsence or get even worse.
I don't expect them to learn anything even when they get taught a lesson. A true Karen is a narcissist and rejects any reality in which they don't get their way as either being something that didn't happen or that they were a persecuted martyr because of it. That being said, a smirk is something that should be wiped off the face of a Karen as a principle.
I would be so pissed it that manager said you'r fired to me just to shut up the other person!! Good grief manager, do your job right or don't do it it all.
Story 4: when manager calls you out you yell back: “I’M GOING TO TAKE A SHIT” that’ll shut him up
The WALMART Roger Petal story. Got to admit that *THAT* is glorious. Also happy that Karen lwas able to look like a crazy woman.
Roger was a BOSS! 😂
I thought that was a pet store, not walmart
@@brianaschmidt910 I believe OP mentioned that it was a Wally World.
@@TheDarkLink7 He didn't name the store. I don't think there's any Walmarts in the UAE, but I could be mistaken.
@robertc.9503 yeah I dunno either. It could be or a variation of Walmart/Target
Karens keep doing these things because idiot store managers go along with them and pretend to fire the so-called employee. They will do this over and over because they were successful at least once. I’d report the manager to corporate if that ever happened to me; they are at least 50% of the problem!
Story number two: as someone who spent many years in customer service with a large swath of that time in retail and the remainder of that time as a server, I can tell you you never ever give in to a hostile or violent customer. You ban them and put them on the do not serve list. Now, with corporate establishments, that's a little bit more difficult to achieve because they can always appeal or tell some great big fictional sob story to the higher-ups at home office then get free stuff or amenities for life. With that said, Tom is a bad, useless conflict resistant manager. Playing along and coddling someone, who is so obviously in the wrong, while satisfying their delusions just to placate them by firing someone that clearly doesn't work for the establishment is tantamount to harassment. It only emboldens these entitled jerks to think that they can walk around like their stuff don't stink causing havoc everywhere they go. I would have ripped the lady a new one using so many four-letter words and vulgar language that it would have left her head spinning. I don't care how friendly the manager was with OP. Playing the devil's advocate and making OP a casualty of that Karen's narcissism just really irks me. I would have boycotted the place and wrote a not so nice review online.
I was so like a zombie, but hearing Fluffy's voice and hearing the stories gave me such a pick-me-up! Thanks Fluff! ❤
Married to a Filipino here: the Karen is obsessed with "poor" because the vast majority of the people in the Philippines are poor. My husband grew up thinking spam was a delicacy. Milk for him was condensed milk or powdered that they had to turn into milk for the family. He told me once that if he were to return to the Philippines, his whole clan would come begging for money because they think all who live in the USA are rich.
Same here, just with a Filipina. We currently run a business in the Philippines and yes, "family" crawls out of the bushes everywhere we go and ask for a handout. Some of them even she didn't know existed until then. I'm European. It's not just the Americas, if you're white, they think money grows on your ears. Pretty disillusioning to be honest.
They're really jolly and smiley though, I've gotta hand it to them.
Credit where credit is due.
@@MattBotor and they expect every Filipino who immigrates to a Western county is going to become a doctor to make tons of money.
@@UsagiArwen That I haven't heard yet, but considering how they reacted to my wife's return, I can see that being the case. Haven't really had that much opportunity to really speak with the family, cuz they're too shy to speak English with me except for a niece and my sister in law (mostly I just converse with my customers) and I'm still struggling with learning Waray.
Oblviously I talk with my wife also, but we don't speak much about what she describes as "negative topics".
Doesn't anybody in the Philippines have cows that they can milk?
@@Kelle0284 They have a local variety, deep dark grey over here, kinda bizarre. Wife says they don't milk them.
3rd story was hilarious, it was a good move from OP.
Name tag story: I won't go out of my way to wear blue to Walmart or Best Buy and red to Target, but I do own shirts in those colors and if I'm out and about needing to stop in to one of those stores, I will do so. If mistaken for an employee, I'll be polite... at first. But if you get rude with me or are stupid enough to put your hands on me, I'll ensure that you will regret having done so.
Puppy food story: I'm glad you got away with that OP. But don't the stores there have security cameras that could have verified what Karen was saying?
Last story: EXCELLENT job OP! You handled that very well.
I was visiting the Geek Squad when I had my pocket protector tucked into my shirt pocket. Someone thought I worked there.
I started working in libraries in 7th grade, through high school. Worked the local library. Then moved into bookstores and was assistant manager. So, I have a huge OCD problem with shelved books (yes, it's real OCD, not just a label). I will start alphabetizing, series number straightening, and facing out books on a shelf just out of habit and the fact that disordered books make me nuts. Even in my old age, I have been asked about books and I can usually tell them where they are but I always tell them that if the book isn't on the shelf, I can't do the look-up, they have to find a real employee. I've never been cussed out but there have been a couple of people insist I'm not looking hard enough. Sheesh, lady, I'm in my 60s, you think I'm working here? Sorry.
I have ADD and am an avid reader. I'm just like you with the need to straighten and organize books. Same with other things too, to be honest.
Ok, the pet store story had me wheezing out loud with laughter multiple times. Bravo! 👏🎉
Seriously, these stories are getting even more hilarious.
the puppy chow story was fantastic.
This is one of the best episodes of this subject.
OP and the Employee are fortunate that Karen didn't demand they check the Cameras...that would show that Karen, OP and the poor Employee DID in fact have an interaction shortly before she checked out...
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Greaaaat now that Karen gets to continue to live in her deluded world where she's the most important person to ever exist.
I hate when people coddle Karens, it completely enables their entitled nonsense.
Story 3: oh, if I ever get a chance, I am doing that. That’s incredible.
Story 5: OP should have made Karen’s day worse. She was totally lying about having a bad day. And even if she did have something that could be considered a “bad day”, racists don’t have feelings anyway, so it wouldn’t even affect her at all to begin with.
Re Story 2, don't feed the Karen! It encourages them to be worse when they think they have gotten their way.
That is a cute pupper in story 3!
To all the Managers that have to deal with Karen's, never, Never, NEVER EVER give them what they want! Do NOT EVER pretend to Fire or Write Someone up simply because a Karen demands you do it!!!
Just tell the Karen to Shut the fuck up and get out of the store before the Police are called and they get Arrested for Harassment and Trespassing!
I LOVE the "Pet Tax"!
Story 4: I love how OP ended it with "The End." I was actually giggling at that probably more than I should have! 😂
Story 1, the dumb assistant manager only lied because he trying to get op in trouble and probably to try to cover up his mistake but instead he dug himself a really deep hole and made himself look horrible Infront of his boss.
“What is it with these Karen’s that want people to get fired?”
“Miserable being must make more miserable being. Then, he is happy.” Boris- Lady and the Tramp.
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You hit the nail on the head there.
@@kitarrah1422
Thanks. Funny that a cartoon would have that much wisdom in it.
wow a filipina karen. we have tons of them here in the philippines for sure but very few landing in these reddit videos. as a filipino, am very sorry for your interaction with her...that predisposition with poverty is probably her insecurity creeping through.
Story 5: OP should have told their parents and told the manager and called the cops. Never Ever Not press charges against a Karen. A little time in jail will help them realize that their attitude is unacceptable.
#3 - Hooray for pet tax! Lovely pup there. And what a way to make a Karen look absolutely delusional - OP and that worker were brilliant.
I say this most posts, but it always, every single time, baffles me employers and customers honestly believe they can assault people straight up. The lovely people in the comments have assured me it's because they have always been bullies, and always got away with it. Oh well, it's never too early or late to start pressing charges.
Love to end my work day with some Dark Fluff.
Story 3 - OP may have had fun, but he could have picked a different tactic to rescue the employee than one that inflicted Karen on more employees.
Story 4 - Be consistent, Fluff! If it was funny to mess around with Karen which resulted in other employees getting harassed, why is it bad that OP's actions here result in other employees getting in trouble. I'm so disappointed in you.
Story 1: When he told you to follow him,you should just have said no thanks,turned around and walked towards the cash register,and if he then tried to restrain you,well that is kidnapping,and if he tried to tell the police that you tried to steal the dvd's,you should just point out it's not considered stealing before you leave the store.
You could have grabbed him by the nuts and started twisting them.
Story 2: Must...control...fists...of...death! Shoes have HEELS, not HEALS. Curse you, autocaption! To answer your question of why people want to have others fired, I think it's because they actually have low self-esteem, and getting a manager to fire someone, especially when they don't actually deserve firing, is their only feeling of power. They can't resist getting that thrill of changing the course of someone else's life. So the answer is: They get off on it. It's sick, but they do.
Story one: doesn’t the Assistant manager know that there are cameras in the store?
Probably thought that he could pull it off cuz he's big boss under the manager
At the start of the story, OP mentioned the story being about 20 years old, so they might not have had cameras in the store. Or at least not higher quality ones like there are now.
This was 20 years ago. He also walked her deliberately to a area with few people. Guy was a real piece of work. If he'd been a better lier she'd been in trouble.
I'm half Filipino and have been living in the Philippines for years, but since I grew up overseas I'm more western leaning in terms of culture and attitude. The Philippines is definitely still a 3rd world country despite ongoing development and there are a lot of people living in extreme poverty. A lot of people here, especially those that "make it out" are extremely classist and it also shows in the work environment. I'm not saying that every Filipino is like this, but dear lord the stories I could tell...
The most recent encounter: One lady cut the line in front of us to get to the parking lot when my family and I headed out to the local mall, and when we told her to get back in line, she first pretended like she "hadn't seen" us, (BS, she literally had to drive around us and forced her way to the front) and when that didn't work she ranted (in a heavy Filipino accent) about how she was an American citizen and therefore deserved preferential treatment.
Story 2. Why do stupid managers cater to Karens like this? The psycho thinks she won and is gonna do it again.
Story 3 - I LOVE when Karens are trolled 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
During my last job in customer service, I absolutely had some options depending on how the customer was behaving 😈 If the customer was pleasant, I would give them the best service ever, with some extra compliments. If the customer was neutral, I would be neutral in my responses too, that is still okay. If they were a bit unpleasant, I would be a bit sharp in my tone, without being rude altogether. However, if I was greeted with shouting, you'll bet yo ass if that call lasted less than 30 seconds
On the other side of the same dumb ass coin...I wear a T-shirt with the company name and a name tag with my name and the company's name on it and people will look at these things and still ask me if I work there.
After these stories, many of us fear becoming a stupid Karen so we are extra cautious.
@@mbyerly9680 I suppose that's true but those who work with the public still judge because we have to deal with so many moments of stupidity on the daily.
It's my way of saying that I need help and asking if you're not doing anything else at the moment. But maybe I should change up my method.
@@charmedleblanc yeah just ask "would you be able to help me" instead of asking if they work there. They'd be more inclined to assist, without judgement. Customer service workers have to deal with rude idiots all day every day so a polite request for assistance goes a very long way.
It is like when I worked at a museum and there was a big sign saying MUSEUM and people still from time to time asked "is this the restaurant?" or just walked in without paying, already decided that it IS the restaurant.
Confimation bias I think it is called, when you only tend to see things that confirms you are right and disregard everything that says you are wrong
Story 4 why should it be up to OP to tell them that they aren’t Adrian. First of all the manager and the rest of the people, working there should know what Adrian looks like. I find it a bit strange when they don’t even, know what a person looks like that works there. Here in New Zealand, I’ve worked for a big company over 600 people and everybody knew who I was, by face.
Story 5: WTG for a 13 year old. I hope that your parents are proud.
Yeah she floored me with that wonderful speech. But where's she from with the ID and the Karen worried about her being a minor?
story #4: every time I use a store's bathroom thats in same area as employee station (like same hall or in the back) I fear Ill be confused for an employee
first story, I heard 20 years ago and thought about the 1980s, then noticed it was the 2000s, I feel old
Story 3 has me rolling laughing 😂🤣
When managers go off the rails, do they demand to speak with the Karen?
Story number five, I also suffer from extreme OCD mixed with extreme bipolar manic disorder. And yes I understand when you go into a place of business such as a supermarket or any retail situation and the shelves are a freaking mess or things are out of place. Like believe me, there is nothing that will set me off more than things not in their designated places or looking the way I feel they should look! However, barring all of this in mind I understand that it's not my job to rearrange or face or front product in a store. Not only does it cause people to pay you undo attention that is not wanted, but say there was some planogram setup and by doing what you're doing technically screws up someone's hard work. And it can also cause people confusion who will then approach the person who they literally see standings or sitting or kneeling or reaching up high to place things back in their rightful spot. People assume that you work there. And being an introvert as I assume The OP was or is, this is not the freaking End Result being looked for. So yes if you have OCD and you can't control it then you need to know about it and educate yourself on how to deal with it because yes while a lot of people don't mind somebody coming in and actually doing the store favor by fixing up and fronting all of their shelves in their displays, it really can cause unneeded drama and unwanted attention from usually the scum of the scum-of-the-earth, people that are lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut
Imagine how hard it must be for families of Karens to get groceries because Karen keeps getting banned and arrested at every store she goes to.
I hate when managers pretend to fire customers. Karens wouldn't be shrieking like spoiled children in stores if it didn't consistently get them what they want!!
Karen's who don't listen or believe their eyes when they are told that a person doesnt work there deserve to get trolled.
Loved story 3
Lol, I'm sorry but as a Filipino l, story 2 just made me think of my mom who would have been confused and then just left so she didn't have to deal with it anymore. Also "Tag-alog" lol FYI for those wondering, it's pronounced "ta-ga-log"
Aloha to all from burnt Maui! 🤕
Keep safe.
OMG! I'm so glad you're safe! I was just thinking about you. I lived on Oahu for 3 years, and visited Maui once. It breaks my heart to see what happened. 😭 (hugs)
Story 2: that manager is just enabling people like her by doing that. Dude actually does need to lose his job as people like him make life difficult for people
Yeah. I was just about to comment on that then I saw your comment. Placating these problem customers only emboldens them by negatively reinforcing their toxic behaviour. They need to be taught, because obviously they didn't learn it as children, that the world doesn't revolve around them nor will they always get their way.
I absolutely refuse to play the let-me-pretend-to-fire-you game; if I am a customer I will be treated with the same respect if not better than a karen.
Ugh that filpino Karen... Never give Karens satisfaction. NEVER.
Roger "The Troll" Pattel, though... gaslighting is never ok but it's a lot less bad in this case.
That teen is an incredible human. I would have 100% pressed charged and told her her day was about to get a lot worse. I'm not an incredible human (at least not in the kindness-to-Karens department)
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*Story about Adrian*
*Why in hell is ANYONE mad at OP?! He did absolutely nothing wrong!*
*The stupid ass mgr, however, DID! He should know who his employees are for God's sake! Not to mention he should not be following them into the bathroom or speaking to them like that!*
*I think what OP did is brilliant! Too many of these "Karen type" people and shitty mgrs are getting away with this shit too often!*
Yes need more stories that pay pet tax. Also include voluntary pet payment of shared photos when not related to story
I think if a manager ever tried to pull the fake 'you're fired' at me for a Karen I'd just ignore them lmao You have no power here Karen, even if the manager is too tired to still fight you.
I would have turned to the manager and yelled, "NO. YOU'RE FIRED." Then I would have went on a big rant yelling at him and wagging my finger in his face.
“Do SoMeThInG!!”
Me, proceeds to badly re-enact riverdance.
16:08 The hero we needed 😂😂😂
I also tend to neaten things up in stores. I've never been mistaken for a worker though. Or at least not that I can remember. My dad's been mistaken a few times but he likes to cause drama so I have no idea how much of his stories are his own fault.
Love me some IDWHL stories!
I certainly got my laugh quota today. 😂🤣😂
If it were me in story 4 I would’ve jumped up on a counter hold my arms up in the air and yell Adrian like in the movie Rocky.
I had no idea you were signing my paycheck...😢😮😅😂
OP 3: I never knew that gaslighting could be used for the power of good.
Story 1: A new manager, 2 days on the job, with a power complex getting over his head never ceases to amaze. What's more, he tried to cover his ass when the police asked, because he couldn't admit he was wrong.
Just saying, I would be considering follow up with that guys references, especially with a second day hire ending with assault.
Yes! PLEASE Pay the 'Pet Tax'! We all wanna see the furry Love Bugs!
Dont just sue the guy, sue the company too. More money to be had.
And if a manager tries to fire me for the sake of a Karen? Yeah my lawyer will contact your company...
I also teach my kids to yell security at the loudest volume they can. 😂 Nobody will get away with bothering them.