I am a grandparent and one thing I know for certain is if a grandparent wants to see their grandchild/ren, that grandparent had better not act like a psycho. You don’t win that way!! Just sayin’!
Too bad Karen doesn't get that message and now has no contact with the kid. Not surprised that she escalated to trying to kidnap the kid but she only showed that she's a psycho and shouldn't be a grandma at all.
I was wondering if OP did some legal action for the father. I mean, for grand parent, pretty sure there is not many "legal right". But, for the father, he has for sure. All of this let me think that if the grand parents has took the legal way, by using their son, they might had a chance to actually do it. But the story doesn't tell. I'll give a little slap on wrist of OP : what was the idea of returning with an abusive ex?!? And I know : emotion!!! So important, so much of a blessing and a curse!
he is not entitled to gambling etiquette when he basically coerced her into playing at all. I'd have left him with the 100 he decided ON HIS OWN to spend, and even giving that back is a "ok I paid you back now leave me alone" exchange.
Well gambling etiquette is winner keeps the pot not who added to it If you aren't the one playing you get nothing... but you can negotiate but that doesn't mean the answer will be yes
@@DarkWolf22k I'm not a gambler, but if something similar happened to me, I think I'd say, "Here's your $100 back. Now, let's go upgrade our room to a suite and make reservations for the best restaurant in town. I'm glad you brought along a suit, but I don't have an appropriate dress. Let's go!"
@@DarkWolf22k Exactly! Let's say 50 people played that slot before her. Every single one of their spins contributed to the alignment of that machine being _just_ in the right place to facilitate her jackpot. If he's entitled to a cut of the money, so are they. Let's see him argue now if she only owes him $300 total.
That grandfather arguing that giving gifts allows them to dictate terms? The grandmother lying about the being the mother instead, kicking and punching? NOPE. They only proved the real mom's point.
Normally I would say the father and his parents should be able to see the kid, but I feel as fluff said we don't know all the details and that last encounter would indicate op made the right decision.
@@wmdkitty must be some strange laws where you are as in most places the father does by law have the right to see their kids and the courts will normally uphold that unless it can be proven not to be in the kids best interests
In the last story, they didn't have an agreement that she'd share any money she won and the $100 was technically a gift, so she doesn't owe him a penny.
In addition get a stand ground certificate this way if you feel you and/or daughter feels like they are a threat to op or op daughters life op can use lethal force and not be arrested or sued for acting with lethal force
Story Last. He gave her $100 bucks as a gift. If he found a gold nugget and gave it to OP, then she sold it for $300 bucks. Would he be entitled to any of that money? No he gifted it to her. It is now hers to do with as she pleases. OP used the Power of her Luck to turn his gift of $100 bucks into $17K. He is not entitled to any of this money as he gifted her the C-note. She didn't even have to give him back the $100 bucks that he freely gifted her. She is also Lucky to find out how little he valued her and how greedy and grasping he is for money. She saw that he clearly only loves money and he was only using her for benefits.
Yup, and legally (assuming US) she pushes the button, she's the one who wins it all. Especially since he walked away with her in the seat, after she started winning. And she's the smart one, STOP GAMBLING WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD.
@@UpdogGolf Not when they pushed past the boundaries I set and forced me to play, no, I wouldn't. But then I honestly would have just walked away if someone had done something like that to me, SO or not.
17:30 _"a mother knows whats best for their child"_ no. NO. based on countless stories we have seen here, this saying should definitely NOT be perpetuated, even when there is evidence backing it up.
If the grandparents weren't psycho, and actually cared about THE BABY, they would have given the gifts, asked about the baby, accepted that she was asleep, assured the mother they were happy for her, then INVITED THE MOTHER to bring the baby over to their house when the mom felt comfortable. They would have reassured her that their stupid son would not be around. They actually didn't give a shit about the baby as a person though and just saw her as a possession, no wonder their son is a psycho too.
Story 4: OP needs to get a lawyer to get a quick statement from that security guard that the grandma tried to claim the kid was her daughter......because at some point they will attempt to go the legal route and OP needs priof that Karen and that side of the family should never be allowed unsupervised around the kid.
Story 3: So the guy trespasses, gets bitten by OP's dog because he trespassed, and not only wants to kill the dog, but remove the fence as a "punishment?" Well, I hope OP's fence is strong and impassable, because something tells me this guy is going to try anything to get rid of this fence (even though he legally couldn't)
@@SonsOfLorgar Not really. Before they make the payout, they get your tax information from the person who was playing AT THE TIME. It doesn't matter he he had been sitting at the machine the entire time, if that one play she had hit the button (because he told her to) and hit a jackpot, money goes to the person who was playing at that moment.
She's not obligated to give him money, she earned all of that on her own and she didn't even wanna play in the first place. She was nice enough to play for him for over half an hour AND give him his money back, and that should be enough.
Absolutely. Super crappy of him to think he has any rights to her winnings because he gave her the $100 of his own free will. AFTER pushing her to gamble after her clear and abundant declines. She tossed a chunk of old coal for a bag of diamonds. Good for her!
I gambled with a friend (not a spouse) and we agreed to split winnings but we never won anything big like this. With our smaller winnings we buy a meal if we didn't have enough points for a free meal or stop for ice cream or coffee on the way home. 😀😀
Does it have it's own subreddit yet? I've heard more than a few stories where OP encounters someone who seems like they're trying to bait them into acting like a "Karen", or OP themselves is doing the baiting, deliberately leaving out details that would reveal them to be the bad guy, and/or overreacting to another person's actions.
Story 4: Nope, no sympathy from me. OP stated that they were not involved at all. Just because their son gave som sperm, they're not entitled to meet the baby. And the fact that Karen tried to kidnap the baby shows that OP is doing the right thing.
I disagree. The mother seems like a spoiled child. The grandmother may be nuts but the grandfather seems ok. If they are wealthy then they should get a team of lawyers to dissect this girls life and sue for custody . I know of a case in real life where that happened . The wealthy grandparents actually got the mother committed to an asylum and took the baby away. In this story it would have been better if the girl had reached an accommodation with the grandparents so they could see their grandchild. It doesn’t say what happened later but she may very well have lost custody.
@johnscott2746 I'm sorry hwwhat?? You must either be the 'grandfather' or someone with a skewed sense of right and wrong. Sue for custody and have the 'girl' committed to an asylum? Are you mental? You can't take custody from a proven mother solely based on the fact that 'you want the baby yourself'. What a nutter.
@@johnscott2746 Legally unless the mother cant financially or physically/mentally take care of the child no court will side with the grandparents. Order goes mother father then grandparents.
@@leemitchell7841you would think so but money changes everything. I agree that it SHOULD work the way you described but like I said I know of at least one case where it didn’t.
Granny here. If you aren't paying child support, you don't see the baby. From what I think, he didn't want anything to do with her baby so that means he's not paying and so grandparents rights are severed. If it was me, my daughter would be in the court severing the parent/child thing and getting restraining orders on everyone. This is not over, next time it will be them going to the school to try to get the child. Or later when the kid is older and somewhere like a football game where the parents aren't right there. I wouldn't trust that family at all. Last one, yep, he gets the $100 and she gets the rest because she did the work. I don't blame her for going on with life without him.
No, she's a selfish b... taking the grandparents from her daughter is disgusting! She shouldn't have gotten pregnant, if she didn't want these people in her life!!! OP is obviously NOT a good daughter. She created a family feud before the baby could even comprehend that these people are her grandparents! Disgusting...
"mother knows what's best for her child." tell that to 5yr old me that watched my mother throw my 6yr old sister into a wall in a drunk rage that fractured her orbital socket.
Sometimes even a crappy person will fight to get custody if only to spite the other parent and/or have control of the situation and not care how much the kid will suffer for it
@@wmdkittywow, that comes across bitter. My godbrother got full custody of his son, because his wife (thier child's mother) decided she no longer wanted to be a mother and willing signed over her rights. There is no 'all men' or 'all women' anything.
Yeah. I think I’ve only seen one man try to get custody because he actually wanted his kid. He had been abused by his mom’s boyfriends though so he was freaked out something would happen to his daughter if my sister in law dated. Their relationship was toxic and they worked much better apart after he went to rehab and kicked the coke. He stopped trying to kidnap their kid. He still wanted her 50% of the time but everyone had to remind him he worked 3 weeks out of 4 in the bush. He would literally need a nanny or babysitter for one week while he was out of town working so it didn’t make sense for him to have her half the time. So he had her for the whole week he would be back in town until he got a job where he was home at night and they switch to 50/50. Until my sister in law passed away and now he has her 100% and keeps having freak outs about it. She’s a teenager. And he freaks out when she wants to do things like, go to the mall with her friends and not have her clingy and invasive aunt tag along. She’s already talking about getting emancipated at 16 so she doesn’t have to live with him
If she's overhearing people's conversations like that and then trying to stick her nose into other people's business. Then yeah she deserves to be publicly shamed for this misunderstanding.
yeah, i think if they would have stayed together they would have shared the money through gifts or paying bills and making their lives easier anyway. This guy is acting like they had an agreed upon deal!
Absolutely. He's a compulsive gambler; if she'd have lost, he would've shrugged it off as no big deal. I understand his logic in wanting more of her winnings, but if they didn't have a prior agreement about it, too bad.
In the UK, something similar happened with the Loto many years ago. One person gave the money and another person chose the numbers. The one who gave the money decided to keep the winnings (over $ 1 million) to himself. They went to Courts and the Courts made them split the money in half.
@@SonsOfLorgar Out of pure interest as a non-American: Why are you putting so much emphasis (in several comments apparently) in lethal (!) defense? Why the desperate want to gun someone down when (f. e.) using a taser would be more than sufficient to defend yourself..?
I don's see why her other parent shouldn't be allowed to see her, op is a psychopath and I don't trust her word about her ex abusing anyone especially when her judgment is so trash herself why did she get back with him and get pregnant only to keep her from her father that's so evil.
The last story. No OP was forced to play she doesn’t deserve to give that man anything. He forced and pressured her to play and she did play but he has no right to the money because he didn’t loan her anything he just put money in the machine and told her to play like she was a petulant child.
@Playwithmeinsecondlife6129 my late maternal grandmother used to do this for two of her three grandchildren each Christmas and younger brother got 200 dollars because his birthday is 5 days before Christmas and the other nieces and Nephews got 50 dollars each until they got engaged/married
@@playwithmeinsecondlife6129 I’m referring to the lady’s ex. He did not discuss what would happen with any winnings with that money, therefore even getting the hundred back should make him happy.
Last story: she may have gotten the money from him but she was the one that played the game and even before clearly stated she didn’t want to and she even gave back the money that was given to her. Her efforts is why she won He’s just being petty
@@SonsOfLorgarif she gave him half, she'd still be legally required to pay the taxes on the entire amount. Say the taxes are 20% (I don't know for certain as each state is different). 20% of 15K is $3000. She gives him half-$7500, plus the initial $100, so $7600. She still has to pay the 3K so she ends up with $4400. Kinda shitty, no?
@@pawsomefurries Taxes on gambling winnings are as follows. 1) Federal governement gets 24% right off the bat 2) State government gets their share (depends on state, here in Florida no state income tax 3) If payout is enough to change your tax bracket (doesn't matter if it's a slot machine or the Powerball) you have to pay the difference when you do your taxes. Which is why if you hit the MegaMillions or Powerball you pay 24% up front and the remaining 13% when you file your income taxes.
Story 4: The fact is, the parents or legal guardians always get final say in who's allowed to have a relationship with the child. It doesn't matter that they were the grandparents because OP had good reason to believe they shouldn't be near her.
If the grandparents truly want to see their grandchild they should straighten out their son and take the legal route. However after what Karen did, I doubt any custodial rights would be granted. Years ago I had a colleague who’s son got his gf pregnant. He refused to acknowledge the baby was his. They kicked him out of their home but let the gf and baby temporarily move in. Gf then found another bf and the bf raised the baby as his own. Fast forward 10 years later and gf contacts them saying she feels they deserve to see their grandchild mostly because they tried to straighten out their son. They have acknowledged that bf is dad and bf’s parents are the grandparents.
With the first story, I completely thought it was going to be an AITA story once the husband responded in kind with the fantasies his wife would never do... Much more interesting that neither offended either and offended a karen instead.
The woman in the last story had a good escape. She didn't want to gamble, he pressured and she got lucky to the tune of $15,000... (In casino etiquette, winners generally tip the dealer 5-10%, depending on the size. In gambling etiquette, if somebody stakes you and you win, you split the winnings; however, none of those things apply here!)
I getcha -- had that with my Ma way back when I won nearly $3000 @ Kentucky Derby; she put in the money for the bet, I was forced to picked the horses since I was good at "choosing". I tried to give it all to her (in my mind, SHE had the right cuz it was her money) but she was adamant 'bout splitting it & giving me the bigger half -- after she and the fam stared at me for a good minute like I grew 4 heads when I handed her the full amount.😕
You split on prior agreement not after who wins is casino etiquette... And either way he paid but he didn't buy her luck... He pushed for something he in fact didn't earn... You can give someone a shovel and say dig but whatever they find is theirs and all they have to do is give you the shovel back
S4: Okay, maybe it was a little harsh to keep them away JUST because of their son's behavior. But then, his mother showed what she was like, and... well. Keeping her away no longer has to have anything to do with her son.
Last story: she will have to pay the taxes on the winnings so she keeps the winnings! It’s good that she saw his character and left before he cost her everything. Had she given him half he would have just given it back to the casino!!
just got to say in response to your line from story 4. not all mothers know what is best for their kids. in this case yes keep those psychos away but I've also seen many mothers who hurt their kids.
The dog story I feel! When I lived with an aunt she would get inspections on her house often and one day the inspector didn’t knock or anything he just slammed open the door and walking say “inspector! And made his way in demanding this and that loudly and our dog rightly began barking and nipped at him as he ran outside yelling at the top of his lungs, he was very slitly nipped, 1 small scrape with 1 puncture mark but it was tiny as he was wearing work jeans and boots and my dog went for his calf, so the mark was barely there, he had to rip his pants off to check, and had to search his legs to find the tiny little mark, over looking that he yanked his pants off and stood in his tightly whiteys with 5 little girls several older women and several boys, after he barged into our home without knocking and making demand
Last story: She didnt want to gamble, he did. She respected that. He did not. He made her sit and put in $100. She won and now he wants half of her winnings? She didnt ask for the money. She gave him his 100 back. Thats called fair and square.
@@msjosieb Exactly! He never said it was a loan or anything. He made her sit, put the money in the machine and walked off. Any winnings are hers. She gave him back a hundred to compensate. He can screw off.
I wonder if he was so insistent that she play something out of hope that he could sponge off any winnings she made regardless if he gave her seed money or not.
Yeah, he clearly had no expectation of her winning anything because obviously most people lose their money in those machines. So acting as if there was some agreement to share to jackpot is way over the top. I'd have likely given him something extra but certainly nothing like HALF !
Story 4: I agree with OP but she’s an idiot. She should’ve lawyered up right away & had them write out the terms of no contact for the ex’s family. At the very least she needs to get a restraining order now & get a lawyer.
Honestly the moment OP released she didn't want those people in her and any future kids lives she should have eather terminated the pregnancy or went to a lawyer to have the ex's right terminated. She's doomed herself and her daughter to a lifetime of misery.
Why would you call her an idiot? That's disrespectful, she is doing the best she can. And Thank GOD her boyfriend was close by! She does need to get a restraining order on the whole lot, and go to court for severed order for ex and family so they can't get to the child. Also make sure who ever is babysitting knows not to let them into the house or near the child. Also make sure you keep really good records of their behavior and notify the police!
On the gambling, he got EXACTLY what he deserved.... its like he gave her $100 to do whatever she wanted... including an immediate cash-out and keeping the $100
Last one: he didn't just give her money to gamble with, he basically pressured her into sitting and gambling, when she already said, multiple times, that she wasn't interested in gambling. Sure, it would have been nice if she gave him half, but she wasn't obligated, and given the vibe I'm getting, I suspect this guy would have just squandered his half on gambling more, and then tried to pressure her into using her half to do more gambling, since she got so lucky. It would have been never-ending. Personally, I would never date someone who gambles habitually.
The last story: HE put the money in and basically forced her to gamble. No other stipulations were made. She played, won, and paid back his $100. She is the one who will ultimately pay the taxes on HER winnings. If she were to give him the $7000 he is expecting, it would be considered a gift and she'd still have to pay taxes for the full $15,000. She was right to keep HER money...and dump him. NTA.
I'd put $50 in the video machine for my GF because she enjoyed playing. She once ran it up to $500... her winnings to keep or lose. Similar happened in the 60's when my dad was showing mom how Vegas slot machines can't be beaten. She hit a jackpot right off, her money. The rest is just silly details. Gamblers never learn, in the long run it's always lost money.
The last story, I'm Siding Not the Ahole. OP didn't even want to gamble at all and had themselves metaphorically shoved into playing by their SO. That they won and then stopped showed they were also smarter than most gamblers.
Speaking of keeping things fresh in a relationship. I remember years ago one of my friends was wearing a blonde wing she found in her parents room. She later told me that her mom said it was something she wears "to keep things fresh in the bedroom" with her dad. My friend immediately got mortified for the fact she was wearing the wig.
Story 4: Nope, the father would be the ONLY ONE ENTITLED to that. As he doesnt pay for child support OR has any interest, thats it. Grandparents have NO RIGHTS to that WHATSOEVER. Also no, i dont feel ANYTHING for those idiots. They misseducated their son? Let him be abusive? They should go to jail. Story 5: Yea no. He gambled, he lost. She is entitled to it as SHE won it so end it. He is an entitled brat, so its better NEVER to talk to him again. I dropped entire good games because its basicaly GAMBLING INCARNATE (Called Gatcha games). As good as some of them are, their to luck based thus stupid. I overcame it and thats for the better.
Story 4: One thing about abusive people is that they never let go. OP broke up with that D-Bag because he was being a D-Bag, and OP was afraid she and her baby's safety would be in peril. Looks like we know where her ex got his behavior from, that mother needs therapy. Sorry, but Isaac is the father now. Suck it Story 5: Oh, and to answer your question, it's pretty much up to the winner to decide. Do they want to share, or take it all and run? Yeah, OP used money given by her now-ex, but she herself won the money, so in a way, she won it. If she wants to give back the amount that she was given by her ex, that's fine. The ex's response was pretty childish though
This is totally OPs fault. If she knew what a DB she was getting involved with, why did she go back to him on the rebound from someone else? What kind of person is so fragile they can't be without another person in their life for more than a few days. She breaks up with one guy, goes back to an ex, gets pregnant, breaks up with the ex again and before the baby is even born is with another boyfriend. She sounds like the DB to me. The father of the child has the right to see the child. Grandparents have no rights in most states, but the father has as much right to the child as the mother does. If she's concerned he will become abusive, then she could arranged supervised visitation, but she has no right to keep the child from the father.
@@geraldstoddard8215It was explicitly stated that the father didn’t want anything to do with the kid - only his entitled mother. His mother has zero rights.
@@darlenefraser3022 We're getting all this from OP, who is a proven flake. She also explicitly said the ex came with the parents one time, so if he didn't want anything to do with the child, what was he doing there? I just think there's more to this story than OP is saying. Of course, she's going to tell the story in a manner that sheds the best light on her, but we've already seen what kind of person she is from her actions in her own story.
Last story...NTA...You, OP, gave him back his $100 out of what was won, and you won the jackpot...so screw him! He does not get anymore than his $100...he wants more? TOUGH COOKIES MISTER!
I think the woman who won the money could have given him more but wasn't obligated. I think she should be glad they are not together because it sounds like he's an addict.
OP in the forth story needs to keep her baby away from her ex and his Karen parents She mentioned that he was awful to his pets, so I’m pretty sure that he wouldn’t be any better to the baby, and she needs to get a restraining order against the Karen grandma
The fact being that in the story she said the father had no interest in his daughter. OP went through pregnancy without him even trying to act like he cared at all. It was literally the grandparents trying to force them back together. Anyone who abuses animals should not conceive. Hell they should not even be allowed in public. They should be video taped and prosecuted for animal cruelty.
@Skrulzie Yes, exactly and the father's parents (mostly the mom) should be arrested for attempted kidnapping (trying to steal the baby), attempted breaking and entering (the mom tried to enter the house when they confronted OP and her dad) and harassment (all the conversations the Karen couple had with OP trying to see the baby)
Story 1: How did I know that this Karen was a Cheater herself?.. I'm so used to Karens being Hypocrites so I just guessed that she herself was a Cheater despite aggressively posting in an Anti-Cheating Group and I was right, she was another one of those Projector Karens (The kind that accuse others of their own Crimes) EDIT: I misheard the trooling bit, I thought OP said that Karen got caught with a guy old enough to be her son
@@Asexual_Individual my bad, I misheard the part about the guy who trolled Karen, I thought someone said that they caught Karen with a guy old enough to be her son
Very possible! It is a kind of a psychological given that many of the things that bother people in others are precisely those things they deny in themselves. And they also expect and 'find' them, whether they are there in the other or not. Ever had anyone angrily accuse you of being angry? Once you understand it you tend to see it everywhere (which could be argued to be second order projection, maybe :) )
Story 1: A cheaters busting Facebook group? ._. I don't feel sorry for that Karen at all; other people's relationships are none of her business. Story 4: I think OP is making the right decision to cut them out. People who think they have the _right_ to see another person because they're fmaily are bad news. ...Confirmed by Karen trying to bloddy steal the baby, OMG. Story 5: Eh. I don't think she _owes_ him a cent and he's a greedy gambling addict. If she had _asked_ for the money, maybe that would be different, but I can't see a loving partner making _demands_ on anyone else's winnings.
Honestly haven't understood why stevo hasn't put random things in random parts of the video. Imagine just chilling listening to the fluffmeister and boom, buff Pikachu pops up in the corner
"A mother knows whats best for a child" This line directly after a story describing a mother who clearly raised an abuser and is attempting kidnap if her granddaughter
OP, you did the absolute correct thing right from the get-go. Keep your prescious angel away from that toxic family. Get a restraining order. Do what you must do in order to keep that sweet little girl away from the wannabe grandparents.
Last story: The $100 weren't legally binding, unles he explicitly stated it was a loan or as part of a contract. Gifts are not bound to an obligation, thats why they're called *gifts* , which those $100 most definitely were. He's got no leg to stand on.
I knew someone that had a big dog (lab sized) that bit a tech from a satellite company that decided they needed into her yard from the neighbors yard...right around the kneecap...so it did a lot of tendon damage. Didn't knock on the door, didn't call them as the neighbors have the contact, just decided to kick through the fence while they weren't home. Not climb...or use the gate...kick through. He didn't even try to justify or explain why he did it. He'd just go quiet and move on like he wasn't asked. The guy got fired, that's a huge no no to the company, then sued home owner....lost and had to pay attorney fees. Eventually the guy got jailed for violation of a restraining order and harassment because he would come to the door and yell at the home owner. No one seemed to be able to convince him what he did was wrong or figure out why he needed to be in their yard so badly. The dog seemed cool once he got to know you but he was skittish after the incident.
I would have filmed my ex hurting the dog using that as leverage to get him arrested for animal cruelty if he was to continue harassing me after this breakup. As well as any interactions with the family you needed to have a camera at the ready. And I would have put all the gifts that they gave me for the baby in a box and put it on their doorstep saying no thanks anymore will come with us restraining order.
she didn't owe him anything---if you give me lottery tickets for my birthday/christmas, you are not owed anything if i win and i am not owed anything if i lose. same principal here.
Story 5, if you are staked by someone you owe them some money. That said, staked, by definition, is someone paying your way to gamble. How the story went, he didn't lend her money. He handed her money and told her to gamble. That is a big difference in gambling etiquette. She owes him nothing, including the initial $100, he gave her. I think she was being nice, just by giving him that!
As far as the dog biting that person has no case. He lost a client and can be charged with trespassing and attempted assault or maybe even trying to kill the dog. Never enter a closed yard that way even if granted permission before knowing a dog is on the premises. Always make sure the dog is inside for safety reasons. If the dog gets out and hurt you can be held responsible. Better safe then sorry.
Last story: not the a-hole. That money was hers to keep and she was generous to give him his 100 bucks back, as it was a gift. She kept telling him she wasn't interested in gambling but he kept insisting. That's a clear sign that he doesn't respect boundaries. She's well to be rid of him.
I've heard of a thing some gamblers do something along the lines of "showing gratitude to your luck," which is along the lines of superstition, like throwing salt over your shoulder. My uncle took my aunt to a high states roller and she shuffled and dealt the cards to her husband and several of his friends. Turns out several of the guys had decent luck, with some even winning. After the game, each of the men gave her $100, and when she said they didn't have to, her husband told her it was a bit of a thing to give a token to the person who gave them luck (i.e. she shuffled and dealt, so she got money just for being lucky). So, if OP was like that, I guess she could have given him a portion larger than exactly what he put in, but she's not obligated to. She didn't want to play, he wouldn't take no for an answer and basically trapped her into playing by putting money in so she felt obligated That she paid him back exactly is more than generous considering what he pulled. That blatant disrespect for her boundaries is a big, honking, neon flashing sign that she's better off not dating him. He would trample her boundaries a lot more than that in other ways if they'd stayed together.
The op with the baby has serious problems with been alone, so she breaks up with a guy, jump immediately to the ex who she KNOWS is an abuser and good for nothing, gets pregnant of this winner and even before even give birth she is already with another man... Jesus, I feel sorry for that baby
The boyfriend who insisted his girlfriend gambled isn't owed more than what he put in if he didn't establish that from the start. Doubley so since she stated she only wanted to observe and he outright put money in a machine and insisted.
Story 4: This must be my psychotic side showing but I would take a watermelon, wrap it up like a baby, take it out to Bob and Karen and SPIKE it into the ground! Maybe toss in some kicks towards Bob and Karen saying "Here's your granddaughter!"
he is lucky that he got his $100.00 back, and no he has no right to any more than that.
The last one NTA.
If OP lost it, he'll be asking for the $100 back.
I am a grandparent and one thing I know for certain is if a grandparent wants to see their grandchild/ren, that grandparent had better not act like a psycho. You don’t win that way!! Just sayin’!
Too bad Karen doesn't get that message and now has no contact with the kid. Not surprised that she escalated to trying to kidnap the kid but she only showed that she's a psycho and shouldn't be a grandma at all.
It Shows where their son got His Abusive Side from.
Karens do be psycho and entitled
The first time the grandmother referred to the baby as OUR baby should have been a major red flag.
I was wondering if OP did some legal action for the father. I mean, for grand parent, pretty sure there is not many "legal right". But, for the father, he has for sure. All of this let me think that if the grand parents has took the legal way, by using their son, they might had a chance to actually do it. But the story doesn't tell.
I'll give a little slap on wrist of OP : what was the idea of returning with an abusive ex?!? And I know : emotion!!! So important, so much of a blessing and a curse!
Story 4: "Our" baby? Okay, she needs a check-up from the neck up, she's officially gone off the deep end.
that's what I'm saying. Like why does she keep saying "her", "our", or "mine? That lady honestly needs help.
he is not entitled to gambling etiquette when he basically coerced her into playing at all. I'd have left him with the 100 he decided ON HIS OWN to spend, and even giving that back is a "ok I paid you back now leave me alone" exchange.
Well gambling etiquette is winner keeps the pot not who added to it
If you aren't the one playing you get nothing... but you can negotiate but that doesn't mean the answer will be yes
@@DarkWolf22k I'm not a gambler, but if something similar happened to me, I think I'd say, "Here's your $100 back. Now, let's go upgrade our room to a suite and make reservations for the best restaurant in town. I'm glad you brought along a suit, but I don't have an appropriate dress. Let's go!"
You shouldn't share half of your jackpot with anyone. It is counted as your income, and you have to pay the taxes on it.
If someone's stakes all the money and you only give them their money back but keep the jackpot. then you are a horrible person.
@@DarkWolf22k Exactly! Let's say 50 people played that slot before her. Every single one of their spins contributed to the alignment of that machine being _just_ in the right place to facilitate her jackpot. If he's entitled to a cut of the money, so are they. Let's see him argue now if she only owes him $300 total.
That grandfather arguing that giving gifts allows them to dictate terms? The grandmother lying about the being the mother instead, kicking and punching? NOPE. They only proved the real mom's point.
The child's father does, however, have the right to have access to his child
Normally I would say the father and his parents should be able to see the kid, but I feel as fluff said we don't know all the details and that last encounter would indicate op made the right decision.
@@IanM-id8or He's an ex for a reason, and no, he has no "rights". Those PRIVILEGES are entirely the mother's to grant and rescind as she sees fit.
Yeah those people are crazy
@@wmdkitty must be some strange laws where you are as in most places the father does by law have the right to see their kids and the courts will normally uphold that unless it can be proven not to be in the kids best interests
In the last story, they didn't have an agreement that she'd share any money she won and the $100 was technically a gift, so she doesn't owe him a penny.
Story 4: OP, get a restraining order against the grandparents. They are nuts
In addition get a stand ground certificate this way if you feel you and/or daughter feels like they are a threat to op or op daughters life op can use lethal force and not be arrested or sued for acting with lethal force
Story Last. He gave her $100 bucks as a gift. If he found a gold nugget and gave it to OP, then she sold it for $300 bucks. Would he be entitled to any of that money? No he gifted it to her. It is now hers to do with as she pleases. OP used the Power of her Luck to turn his gift of $100 bucks into $17K. He is not entitled to any of this money as he gifted her the C-note. She didn't even have to give him back the $100 bucks that he freely gifted her. She is also Lucky to find out how little he valued her and how greedy and grasping he is for money. She saw that he clearly only loves money and he was only using her for benefits.
Yup, and legally (assuming US) she pushes the button, she's the one who wins it all. Especially since he walked away with her in the seat, after she started winning. And she's the smart one, STOP GAMBLING WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD.
Yes to a point, but its not 2 random strangers though. If your SO put a 100 in the machine for you, you wouldn't share?
@@UpdogGolf The Luck was hers, not his.
@SIXPACFISH what does that have to do with what I said?
@@UpdogGolf Not when they pushed past the boundaries I set and forced me to play, no, I wouldn't.
But then I honestly would have just walked away if someone had done something like that to me, SO or not.
17:30 _"a mother knows whats best for their child"_
no. NO. based on countless stories we have seen here, this saying should definitely NOT be perpetuated, even when there is evidence backing it up.
Did the women who murdered their children "know what was Best for them"? This is a stupid saying.
Only sane mothers know best obviously. He didn’t mean evil monster mothers.
Casey Anthony and Andrea Yeats (or was it Yates?) sure didn't.
Agreed. Stupid, stupid saying.
In this case with the grandparents having had no contact and the parents being not married I think it's warranted.
Last story: No terms were agreed upon. She didn't even have to pay back the hundo, it was thrust upon her like a gift.
If the grandparents weren't psycho, and actually cared about THE BABY, they would have given the gifts, asked about the baby, accepted that she was asleep, assured the mother they were happy for her, then INVITED THE MOTHER to bring the baby over to their house when the mom felt comfortable. They would have reassured her that their stupid son would not be around.
They actually didn't give a shit about the baby as a person though and just saw her as a possession, no wonder their son is a psycho too.
First story: What a great idea for re-dating your spouse!
Story 4: OP needs to get a lawyer to get a quick statement from that security guard that the grandma tried to claim the kid was her daughter......because at some point they will attempt to go the legal route and OP needs priof that Karen and that side of the family should never be allowed unsupervised around the kid.
legally the grandparents have no rights to see the child
Story 3: So the guy trespasses, gets bitten by OP's dog because he trespassed, and not only wants to kill the dog, but remove the fence as a "punishment?"
Well, I hope OP's fence is strong and impassable, because something tells me this guy is going to try anything to get rid of this fence (even though he legally couldn't)
Honestly the moment he suggested removing the fence is the moment he shoulda been flat out arrested for stalking
@@jeremydale4548 And i would make it an electric fence (with the proper signage, off course).
@@Some_Guy6 Zappy zappy time.
and hopefully painted in the ugliest and craziest paints ever on the neighbours side.
Joe is a real genius. He's going to remove the fence that keeps OP's dog out of his back yard. The dog, that has already bitten him once!
Gambler story. She was right giving back the $100.00 dollars. Only the hundred.
Good she is not with him anymore.
Have a happy life.
I only disagree with you cause you said to give the hundred bucks back. He deserves nothing from her winnings as he forced her to gamble.
She owes taxes on all of it.
@@dorthyjamieson5738 that's a different issue
@dorthyjamieson5738 depends on where you are from. My country doesn't have taxes on inheritance, lottery, gifts of any amount nor gambling winnings!
@@SonsOfLorgar Not really. Before they make the payout, they get your tax information from the person who was playing AT THE TIME. It doesn't matter he he had been sitting at the machine the entire time, if that one play she had hit the button (because he told her to) and hit a jackpot, money goes to the person who was playing at that moment.
In the grandparents' story, I hope she's documenting these abduction attempts when the grandparents try to sue over grandparents rights.
She's not obligated to give him money, she earned all of that on her own and she didn't even wanna play in the first place. She was nice enough to play for him for over half an hour AND give him his money back, and that should be enough.
Absolutely. Super crappy of him to think he has any rights to her winnings because he gave her the $100 of his own free will. AFTER pushing her to gamble after her clear and abundant declines. She tossed a chunk of old coal for a bag of diamonds. Good for her!
He's a gambling addict and wants her addicted, too.
@@rcrawford42definitely.
I gambled with a friend (not a spouse) and we agreed to split winnings but we never won anything big like this. With our smaller winnings we buy a meal if we didn't have enough points for a free meal or stop for ice cream or coffee on the way home. 😀😀
Karen fishing should be labelled an official extreme sport.
Does it have it's own subreddit yet? I've heard more than a few stories where OP encounters someone who seems like they're trying to bait them into acting like a "Karen", or OP themselves is doing the baiting, deliberately leaving out details that would reveal them to be the bad guy, and/or overreacting to another person's actions.
@@Asexual_Individual I don't believe so, sorry to disappoint.
Story 4: Nope, no sympathy from me. OP stated that they were not involved at all. Just because their son gave som sperm, they're not entitled to meet the baby.
And the fact that Karen tried to kidnap the baby shows that OP is doing the right thing.
I disagree. The mother seems like a spoiled child. The grandmother may be nuts but the grandfather seems ok. If they are wealthy then they should get a team of lawyers to dissect this girls life and sue for custody . I know of a case in real life where that happened . The wealthy grandparents actually got the mother committed to an asylum and took the baby away. In this story it would have been better if the girl had reached an accommodation with the grandparents so they could see their grandchild. It doesn’t say what happened later but she may very well have lost custody.
@johnscott2746 I'm sorry hwwhat?? You must either be the 'grandfather' or someone with a skewed sense of right and wrong. Sue for custody and have the 'girl' committed to an asylum? Are you mental? You can't take custody from a proven mother solely based on the fact that 'you want the baby yourself'. What a nutter.
@@johnscott2746 Legally unless the mother cant financially or physically/mentally take care of the child no court will side with the grandparents. Order goes mother father then grandparents.
@@leemitchell7841you would think so but money changes everything. I agree that it SHOULD work the way you described but like I said I know of at least one case where it didn’t.
The dad has just as much right to that baby as the mom. If she didn't want anything to do with him she shouldn't have had a child with him.
Granny here. If you aren't paying child support, you don't see the baby. From what I think, he didn't want anything to do with her baby so that means he's not paying and so grandparents rights are severed. If it was me, my daughter would be in the court severing the parent/child thing and getting restraining orders on everyone. This is not over, next time it will be them going to the school to try to get the child. Or later when the kid is older and somewhere like a football game where the parents aren't right there. I wouldn't trust that family at all.
Last one, yep, he gets the $100 and she gets the rest because she did the work. I don't blame her for going on with life without him.
Child support and Visitation Rights are NOT related!! Don't be greedy. Don't punish the child over money!!
@@jsivco3sivco785 It'd be punishing the child to let those psychos anywhere near her.
I agree with you 100%. And, because the so-called grandparents are wealthy, they may try all kinds of devious ways to see/kidnap OP's daughter.
That OP should get a concealed carry permit on top of the restraining order.
No, she's a selfish b... taking the grandparents from her daughter is disgusting!
She shouldn't have gotten pregnant, if she didn't want these people in her life!!!
OP is obviously NOT a good daughter. She created a family feud before the baby could even comprehend that these people are her grandparents! Disgusting...
"Two other stores said they'd do it!" "Then go to one of those stores."
"mother knows what's best for her child."
tell that to 5yr old me that watched my mother throw my 6yr old sister into a wall in a drunk rage that fractured her orbital socket.
My mother wasn't an alcoholic, but she behavior was similar. My mother decided regular, severe beatings were "what was good for me."
Gotta love that first story. Stevo, mind adding more like that story in these videos?
It reminds me of Clive Bixby and Julianna (Phil and Claire's alter-egos in Modern Family); so cute and funny 😍
@@adrianam5614 Damn, nice catch. Didn't even realize it.
Sometimes even a crappy person will fight to get custody if only to spite the other parent and/or have control of the situation and not care how much the kid will suffer for it
That's the only reason men fight for custody anyway.
@@wmdkittywow, that comes across bitter. My godbrother got full custody of his son, because his wife (thier child's mother) decided she no longer wanted to be a mother and willing signed over her rights. There is no 'all men' or 'all women' anything.
Yeah. I think I’ve only seen one man try to get custody because he actually wanted his kid. He had been abused by his mom’s boyfriends though so he was freaked out something would happen to his daughter if my sister in law dated. Their relationship was toxic and they worked much better apart after he went to rehab and kicked the coke. He stopped trying to kidnap their kid.
He still wanted her 50% of the time but everyone had to remind him he worked 3 weeks out of 4 in the bush. He would literally need a nanny or babysitter for one week while he was out of town working so it didn’t make sense for him to have her half the time. So he had her for the whole week he would be back in town until he got a job where he was home at night and they switch to 50/50. Until my sister in law passed away and now he has her 100% and keeps having freak outs about it.
She’s a teenager. And he freaks out when she wants to do things like, go to the mall with her friends and not have her clingy and invasive aunt tag along. She’s already talking about getting emancipated at 16 so she doesn’t have to live with him
If she's overhearing people's conversations like that and then trying to stick her nose into other people's business. Then yeah she deserves to be publicly shamed for this misunderstanding.
Story 5, he insisted that OP play. If OP lost all 100.00 in several plays, would he expect OP to repay back the money played?
Last Story: naw she gave what was given. She said it wasn't her thing. He should have been happy she won. He was being petty.
Agreed. It's like a loan he gave her. She paid it back and kept the rest.
yeah, i think if they would have stayed together they would have shared the money through gifts or paying bills and making their lives easier anyway. This guy is acting like they had an agreed upon deal!
There is a law that addresses the exact problem. Whoever pushes the button is who the money belongs to.
Absolutely. He's a compulsive gambler; if she'd have lost, he would've shrugged it off as no big deal. I understand his logic in wanting more of her winnings, but if they didn't have a prior agreement about it, too bad.
In the UK, something similar happened with the Loto many years ago.
One person gave the money and another person chose the numbers.
The one who gave the money decided to keep the winnings (over $ 1 million) to himself.
They went to Courts and the Courts made them split the money in half.
OP needs to make arrangements to legally keep her Ex and his parents away from her daughter, or it will come back to bite her in the behind later on
Many states don't recognise "grandparents' rights".
Yep! There’s a restraining order for that.
And to be ready to employ lethal home/self defense if they violate the restraining order.
@@SonsOfLorgar Out of pure interest as a non-American: Why are you putting so much emphasis (in several comments apparently) in lethal (!) defense? Why the desperate want to gun someone down when (f. e.) using a taser would be more than sufficient to defend yourself..?
I don's see why her other parent shouldn't be allowed to see her, op is a psychopath and I don't trust her word about her ex abusing anyone especially when her judgment is so trash herself why did she get back with him and get pregnant only to keep her from her father that's so evil.
The last story. No OP was forced to play she doesn’t deserve to give that man anything. He forced and pressured her to play and she did play but he has no right to the money because he didn’t loan her anything he just put money in the machine and told her to play like she was a petulant child.
The 100 was a gift which was not expected to be returned. She owes him nothing.
@Playwithmeinsecondlife6129 my late maternal grandmother used to do this for two of her three grandchildren each Christmas and younger brother got 200 dollars because his birthday is 5 days before Christmas and the other nieces and Nephews got 50 dollars each until they got engaged/married
Yeah. Unless you discuss splitting it beforehand- be happy you got the hundred back!
@@RajaniIsa not I, the lady in the story.
@@playwithmeinsecondlife6129 I’m referring to the lady’s ex. He did not discuss what would happen with any winnings with that money, therefore even getting the hundred back should make him happy.
@@RajaniIsa In gambling one must be prepared to lose what is gambled.
Last story: she may have gotten the money from him but she was the one that played the game and even before clearly stated she didn’t want to and she even gave back the money that was given to her. Her efforts is why she won
He’s just being petty
She also will have to pay the income tax on all of it because only her name and info would be on the W2G.
@@elainehelms4076 and what does that have to do with anything?
@@SonsOfLorgarif she gave him half, she'd still be legally required to pay the taxes on the entire amount. Say the taxes are 20% (I don't know for certain as each state is different). 20% of 15K is $3000. She gives him half-$7500, plus the initial $100, so $7600. She still has to pay the 3K so she ends up with $4400. Kinda shitty, no?
@@pawsomefurries
Taxes on gambling winnings are as follows.
1) Federal governement gets 24% right off the bat
2) State government gets their share (depends on state, here in Florida no state income tax
3) If payout is enough to change your tax bracket (doesn't matter if it's a slot machine or the Powerball) you have to pay the difference when you do your taxes. Which is why if you hit the MegaMillions or Powerball you pay 24% up front and the remaining 13% when you file your income taxes.
@@ErickHenkel uh huh. She'd still owe on the money if she gave him half. That's the point, not the percentage.
Story 4: The fact is, the parents or legal guardians always get final say in who's allowed to have a relationship with the child. It doesn't matter that they were the grandparents because OP had good reason to believe they shouldn't be near her.
If the grandparents truly want to see their grandchild they should straighten out their son and take the legal route.
However after what Karen did, I doubt any custodial rights would be granted.
Years ago I had a colleague who’s son got his gf pregnant. He refused to acknowledge the baby was his. They kicked him out of their home but let the gf and baby temporarily move in. Gf then found another bf and the bf raised the baby as his own. Fast forward 10 years later and gf contacts them saying she feels they deserve to see their grandchild mostly because they tried to straighten out their son. They have acknowledged that bf is dad and bf’s parents are the grandparents.
With the first story, I completely thought it was going to be an AITA story once the husband responded in kind with the fantasies his wife would never do... Much more interesting that neither offended either and offended a karen instead.
The woman in the last story had a good escape. She didn't want to gamble, he pressured and she got lucky to the tune of $15,000... (In casino etiquette, winners generally tip the dealer 5-10%, depending on the size. In gambling etiquette, if somebody stakes you and you win, you split the winnings; however, none of those things apply here!)
I getcha -- had that with my Ma way back when I won nearly $3000 @ Kentucky Derby; she put in the money for the bet, I was forced to picked the horses since I was good at "choosing".
I tried to give it all to her (in my mind, SHE had the right cuz it was her money) but she was adamant 'bout splitting it & giving me the bigger half -- after she and the fam stared at me for a good minute like I grew 4 heads when I handed her the full amount.😕
You split on prior agreement not after who wins is casino etiquette... And either way he paid but he didn't buy her luck... He pushed for something he in fact didn't earn... You can give someone a shovel and say dig but whatever they find is theirs and all they have to do is give you the shovel back
Have you thought of moving away from the area? Get a restraining order against the whole family
A mother doesn't always know what's best but in this case she's right.
Talking from experience (my parents divorce)
Story 4:
Ahem, no, you do not granny Karen. You do not get to see the child when YOUR OWN child has no interest in parenting. BUCK OFF!
Hahahahahahaha to the first story. I agree. What the married people are doing is really smart. Keep it up and keep the spark OP
Story 1: Patrick "Cheating on your wife, with your wife. It's the perfect crime."
S4: Okay, maybe it was a little harsh to keep them away JUST because of their son's behavior. But then, his mother showed what she was like, and... well. Keeping her away no longer has to have anything to do with her son.
Last story: she will have to pay the taxes on the winnings so she keeps the winnings! It’s good that she saw his character and left before he cost her everything. Had she given him half he would have just given it back to the casino!!
Second story: let the lawsuit happen so the video can be shared.
just got to say in response to your line from story 4. not all mothers know what is best for their kids. in this case yes keep those psychos away but I've also seen many mothers who hurt their kids.
Story 1...The Mind Your Business Tax!!! 😂
Story four... Toss the gifts back, tell them to GTFO of OP's property. If they don't, call the cops. 😡
She could actually be forced to let the father see the child, he's not a second class parent , what she's doing is parental alienation
Last story - Absolutely Not. It is 100% HER money. He got his $100 back and that's all he gets.
The dog story I feel! When I lived with an aunt she would get inspections on her house often and one day the inspector didn’t knock or anything he just slammed open the door and walking say “inspector! And made his way in demanding this and that loudly and our dog rightly began barking and nipped at him as he ran outside yelling at the top of his lungs, he was very slitly nipped, 1 small scrape with 1 puncture mark but it was tiny as he was wearing work jeans and boots and my dog went for his calf, so the mark was barely there, he had to rip his pants off to check, and had to search his legs to find the tiny little mark, over looking that he yanked his pants off and stood in his tightly whiteys with 5 little girls several older women and several boys, after he barged into our home without knocking and making demand
Last story 😂 - idk but 18 months and their first weekend getaway is just for him.
Sounds like she deserved that !
Last story: She didnt want to gamble, he did. She respected that.
He did not. He made her sit and put in $100.
She won and now he wants half of her winnings?
She didnt ask for the money. She gave him his 100 back. Thats called fair and square.
Actually, it's better than fair, according to gambling etiquette she doesn't owe him anything. I explained it better in another comment on here.
The $100 was a gift. It was nice of her to give him back the $100 but she doesn’t owe him anything more.
@@msjosieb Exactly! He never said it was a loan or anything. He made her sit, put the money in the machine and walked off. Any winnings are hers. She gave him back a hundred to compensate.
He can screw off.
I wonder if he was so insistent that she play something out of hope that he could sponge off any winnings she made regardless if he gave her seed money or not.
Yeah, he clearly had no expectation of her winning anything because obviously most people lose their money in those machines. So acting as if there was some agreement to share to jackpot is way over the top. I'd have likely given him something extra but certainly nothing like HALF !
That tinder date thing sounds like a great pressure free way to communicate! I love it!!
Story 4: Probably keep an eye on your daughter as she grows up to spot any inherited anger problems or whatever contributed to the ex's anger issues.
Story 4: I agree with OP but she’s an idiot. She should’ve lawyered up right away & had them write out the terms of no contact for the ex’s family. At the very least she needs to get a restraining order now & get a lawyer.
Honestly the moment OP released she didn't want those people in her and any future kids lives she should have eather terminated the pregnancy or went to a lawyer to have the ex's right terminated. She's doomed herself and her daughter to a lifetime of misery.
Why would you call her an idiot? That's disrespectful, she is doing the best she can. And Thank GOD her boyfriend was close by! She does need to get a restraining order on the whole lot, and go to court for severed order for ex and family so they can't get to the child. Also make sure who ever is babysitting knows not to let them into the house or near the child. Also make sure you keep really good records of their behavior and notify the police!
@@CrimsonAngelWinges no she haven't. A order of protection can and will be granted due to the actions of the ex mother.
BUT. WHAT. ABOUT. THE. DOG? OP, go steal the dpg!
On the gambling, he got EXACTLY what he deserved.... its like he gave her $100 to do whatever she wanted... including an immediate cash-out and keeping the $100
That first story is genuinely fucking adorable. What an interesting way to open up healthy communication about your perspectives.
13:16 reminded me of overwatch “BOB! DO SOMETHING” 😂😂😂
Last one: he didn't just give her money to gamble with, he basically pressured her into sitting and gambling, when she already said, multiple times, that she wasn't interested in gambling. Sure, it would have been nice if she gave him half, but she wasn't obligated, and given the vibe I'm getting, I suspect this guy would have just squandered his half on gambling more, and then tried to pressure her into using her half to do more gambling, since she got so lucky. It would have been never-ending. Personally, I would never date someone who gambles habitually.
My wife and I regularly have a "Date Night". We try for once a week, but make time (worst case) every other week.
She got rid of a gambler, and walked away richer for it. Well done luv..
The last story: HE put the money in and basically forced her to gamble. No other stipulations were made. She played, won, and paid back his $100.
She is the one who will ultimately pay the taxes on HER winnings. If she were to give him the $7000 he is expecting, it would be considered a gift and she'd still have to pay taxes for the full $15,000.
She was right to keep HER money...and dump him. NTA.
I'd put $50 in the video machine for my GF because she enjoyed playing. She once ran it up to $500... her winnings to keep or lose. Similar happened in the 60's when my dad was showing mom how Vegas slot machines can't be beaten. She hit a jackpot right off, her money. The rest is just silly details. Gamblers never learn, in the long run it's always lost money.
Story 4: Karen really went "Bob, do something!"
The last story, I'm Siding Not the Ahole. OP didn't even want to gamble at all and had themselves metaphorically shoved into playing by their SO. That they won and then stopped showed they were also smarter than most gamblers.
Speaking of keeping things fresh in a relationship. I remember years ago one of my friends was wearing a blonde wing she found in her parents room. She later told me that her mom said it was something she wears "to keep things fresh in the bedroom" with her dad. My friend immediately got mortified for the fact she was wearing the wig.
Story 4: Nope, the father would be the ONLY ONE ENTITLED to that. As he doesnt pay for child support OR has any interest, thats it. Grandparents have NO RIGHTS to that WHATSOEVER. Also no, i dont feel ANYTHING for those idiots. They misseducated their son? Let him be abusive? They should go to jail.
Story 5: Yea no. He gambled, he lost. She is entitled to it as SHE won it so end it. He is an entitled brat, so its better NEVER to talk to him again. I dropped entire good games because its basicaly GAMBLING INCARNATE (Called Gatcha games). As good as some of them are, their to luck based thus stupid. I overcame it and thats for the better.
@DarkFluff. The last story is an easy one. There is a law on slots whoever pushed the button gets the momey.
Story 4: One thing about abusive people is that they never let go. OP broke up with that D-Bag because he was being a D-Bag, and OP was afraid she and her baby's safety would be in peril. Looks like we know where her ex got his behavior from, that mother needs therapy.
Sorry, but Isaac is the father now. Suck it
Story 5: Oh, and to answer your question, it's pretty much up to the winner to decide. Do they want to share, or take it all and run? Yeah, OP used money given by her now-ex, but she herself won the money, so in a way, she won it. If she wants to give back the amount that she was given by her ex, that's fine. The ex's response was pretty childish though
Story 4: OP knew he was D-bag and still went back to him. She then "acted" surprised when he turned out to be a real A-hole.
This is totally OPs fault. If she knew what a DB she was getting involved with, why did she go back to him on the rebound from someone else? What kind of person is so fragile they can't be without another person in their life for more than a few days. She breaks up with one guy, goes back to an ex, gets pregnant, breaks up with the ex again and before the baby is even born is with another boyfriend. She sounds like the DB to me. The father of the child has the right to see the child. Grandparents have no rights in most states, but the father has as much right to the child as the mother does. If she's concerned he will become abusive, then she could arranged supervised visitation, but she has no right to keep the child from the father.
@@geraldstoddard8215It was explicitly stated that the father didn’t want anything to do with the kid - only his entitled mother. His mother has zero rights.
@@darlenefraser3022 We're getting all this from OP, who is a proven flake. She also explicitly said the ex came with the parents one time, so if he didn't want anything to do with the child, what was he doing there? I just think there's more to this story than OP is saying. Of course, she's going to tell the story in a manner that sheds the best light on her, but we've already seen what kind of person she is from her actions in her own story.
@@geraldstoddard8215 A “proven flake”? What is the proof?
Last story...NTA...You, OP, gave him back his $100 out of what was won, and you won the jackpot...so screw him! He does not get anymore than his $100...he wants more? TOUGH COOKIES MISTER!
I think the woman who won the money could have given him more but wasn't obligated. I think she should be glad they are not together because it sounds like he's an addict.
OP in the forth story needs to keep her baby away from her ex and his Karen parents
She mentioned that he was awful to his pets, so I’m pretty sure that he wouldn’t be any better to the baby, and she needs to get a restraining order against the Karen grandma
Oh yeah she does
The fact being that in the story she said the father had no interest in his daughter. OP went through pregnancy without him even trying to act like he cared at all. It was literally the grandparents trying to force them back together.
Anyone who abuses animals should not conceive. Hell they should not even be allowed in public. They should be video taped and prosecuted for animal cruelty.
@Skrulzie Yes, exactly and the father's parents (mostly the mom) should be arrested for attempted kidnapping (trying to steal the baby), attempted breaking and entering (the mom tried to enter the house when they confronted OP and her dad) and harassment (all the conversations the Karen couple had with OP trying to see the baby)
@@Skrulzie yes they should!? If they think this is ok to hurt animals obviously they’ll be ok with hurting their DEFENSELESS CHILD!?
@@oliviajeanne7709 Not sure why it feels like you are agreeing with me and screaming at me simultaneously.
And exactly how much of his "winnings" did the gambler give to her? ZERO.
13:17 Okay, whoever plays Overwatch too... Ash be like: "Bob,do something!" and the enemies start running away🤣
Story 1: How did I know that this Karen was a Cheater herself?.. I'm so used to Karens being Hypocrites so I just guessed that she herself was a Cheater despite aggressively posting in an Anti-Cheating Group and I was right, she was another one of those Projector Karens
(The kind that accuse others of their own Crimes)
EDIT: I misheard the trooling bit, I thought OP said that Karen got caught with a guy old enough to be her son
Was there an update to the story that wasn't in the video? Because it doesn't say anywhere that Karen was revealed to be a cheater herself.
@@Asexual_Individual my bad, I misheard the part about the guy who trolled Karen, I thought someone said that they caught Karen with a guy old enough to be her son
Very possible! It is a kind of a psychological given that many of the things that bother people in others are precisely those things they deny in themselves. And they also expect and 'find' them, whether they are there in the other or not. Ever had anyone angrily accuse you of being angry? Once you understand it you tend to see it everywhere (which could be argued to be second order projection, maybe :) )
Story 1: A cheaters busting Facebook group? ._. I don't feel sorry for that Karen at all; other people's relationships are none of her business.
Story 4: I think OP is making the right decision to cut them out. People who think they have the _right_ to see another person because they're fmaily are bad news.
...Confirmed by Karen trying to bloddy steal the baby, OMG.
Story 5: Eh. I don't think she _owes_ him a cent and he's a greedy gambling addict. If she had _asked_ for the money, maybe that would be different, but I can't see a loving partner making _demands_ on anyone else's winnings.
Gambling courtesy is to give back the money you were given
Honestly haven't understood why stevo hasn't put random things in random parts of the video. Imagine just chilling listening to the fluffmeister and boom, buff Pikachu pops up in the corner
Story 4: 15:40
At no point before this did anyone think about a restraining order? 🤷
It wasn't her choice to gamble, he virtually forced it on her. I would have broken up with him over that alone! Giving him extra money. Oh hell no!
"A mother knows whats best for a child"
This line directly after a story describing a mother who clearly raised an abuser and is attempting kidnap if her granddaughter
OP, you did the absolute correct thing right from the get-go. Keep your prescious angel away from that toxic family. Get a restraining order. Do what you must do in order to keep that sweet little girl away from the wannabe grandparents.
Last story: The $100 weren't legally binding, unles he explicitly stated it was a loan or as part of a contract. Gifts are not bound to an obligation, thats why they're called *gifts* , which those $100 most definitely were. He's got no leg to stand on.
Story 1: Hell, I'd do that just to mess with any Karen that might be around at the time.
Story number one so Karen made a complete fool out of herself what else is new!😅
Story 4 scares me. I've listened to true crime stories that started just like this.
He doesn't deserve anything but the $100 he made her play with.
I knew someone that had a big dog (lab sized) that bit a tech from a satellite company that decided they needed into her yard from the neighbors yard...right around the kneecap...so it did a lot of tendon damage. Didn't knock on the door, didn't call them as the neighbors have the contact, just decided to kick through the fence while they weren't home. Not climb...or use the gate...kick through. He didn't even try to justify or explain why he did it. He'd just go quiet and move on like he wasn't asked.
The guy got fired, that's a huge no no to the company, then sued home owner....lost and had to pay attorney fees. Eventually the guy got jailed for violation of a restraining order and harassment because he would come to the door and yell at the home owner. No one seemed to be able to convince him what he did was wrong or figure out why he needed to be in their yard so badly.
The dog seemed cool once he got to know you but he was skittish after the incident.
I would have filmed my ex hurting the dog using that as leverage to get him arrested for animal cruelty if he was to continue harassing me after this breakup. As well as any interactions with the family you needed to have a camera at the ready.
And I would have put all the gifts that they gave me for the baby in a box and put it on their doorstep saying no thanks anymore will come with us restraining order.
she didn't owe him anything---if you give me lottery tickets for my birthday/christmas, you are not owed anything if i win and i am not owed anything if i lose. same principal here.
Story 5, if you are staked by someone you owe them some money. That said, staked, by definition, is someone paying your way to gamble. How the story went, he didn't lend her money. He handed her money and told her to gamble. That is a big difference in gambling etiquette. She owes him nothing, including the initial $100, he gave her. I think she was being nice, just by giving him that!
As far as the dog biting that person has no case. He lost a client and can be charged with trespassing and attempted assault or maybe even trying to kill the dog. Never enter a closed yard that way even if granted permission before knowing a dog is on the premises. Always make sure the dog is inside for safety reasons. If the dog gets out and hurt you can be held responsible. Better safe then sorry.
Last story: not the a-hole. That money was hers to keep and she was generous to give him his 100 bucks back, as it was a gift. She kept telling him she wasn't interested in gambling but he kept insisting. That's a clear sign that he doesn't respect boundaries. She's well to be rid of him.
I've heard of a thing some gamblers do something along the lines of "showing gratitude to your luck," which is along the lines of superstition, like throwing salt over your shoulder. My uncle took my aunt to a high states roller and she shuffled and dealt the cards to her husband and several of his friends. Turns out several of the guys had decent luck, with some even winning. After the game, each of the men gave her $100, and when she said they didn't have to, her husband told her it was a bit of a thing to give a token to the person who gave them luck (i.e. she shuffled and dealt, so she got money just for being lucky).
So, if OP was like that, I guess she could have given him a portion larger than exactly what he put in, but she's not obligated to. She didn't want to play, he wouldn't take no for an answer and basically trapped her into playing by putting money in so she felt obligated That she paid him back exactly is more than generous considering what he pulled. That blatant disrespect for her boundaries is a big, honking, neon flashing sign that she's better off not dating him. He would trample her boundaries a lot more than that in other ways if they'd stayed together.
A gambler who repeatedly tried to forse a non gambler to gamble deserves diddly squat
The op with the baby has serious problems with been alone, so she breaks up with a guy, jump immediately to the ex who she KNOWS is an abuser and good for nothing, gets pregnant of this winner and even before even give birth she is already with another man... Jesus, I feel sorry for that baby
HELL NO (for the last one)! Before she did it I said "give him his $100 back and keep the rest"! Maybe give him 1K, definitely NOT $7K!! 😈
On the last story, op your winnings your Money.
Last story - she should have at least given him $200 back.
The boyfriend who insisted his girlfriend gambled isn't owed more than what he put in if he didn't establish that from the start. Doubley so since she stated she only wanted to observe and he outright put money in a machine and insisted.
Story 4: This must be my psychotic side showing but I would take a watermelon, wrap it up like a baby, take it out to Bob and Karen and SPIKE it into the ground! Maybe toss in some kicks towards Bob and Karen saying "Here's your granddaughter!"