I had a model 2 genesis/Sega CD model 2/32x Set up back the day. Miss that set up, but did just get me a model 2 genesis and model 2 CD over Xmas so I am happy anyway.
Boy I loved Sega CD when it came out. It was so eye-catching and advanced at the time. I remember being extremely excited to read about it pre-launch and rushed to EB to play it when they got the kiosk. Working Designs stuff had me drooling. Some absolutely awesome games in the library.
Thank you so much. As a Sega CD owner I can say that it had some fantastic games. I read reviews in magazines so I knew which ones to avoid. I was also fortunate enough to have video stores that would rent Sega CD games. I probably played more Sega CD games then Genesis games. My list of games I owned: Sol-Feace Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol. 1 Sega Classics (Streets of Rage, Revenge of Shinobi, Golden Axe, and Columns) Sonic CD Spider-Man vs. the Kingpin Bram Stoker's Dracula Terminator Final Fight Road Avenger Lunar The Adventures of Willy Beamish almost forgot Mortal Kombat
Another great video. I've owned a Sega CD since launch and have echoed your very sentiments many times to those who think the system was a flop, doesn't offer good games, or was the start of Sega's downfall.
It was a solid add-on. Unfortunately in those times new tech was expensive as hell. It delivered what it promised during its short lifespan. The downfall started when they released the 32x.
One I the main reasons why so few people used the scaling and rotation features was because although the hardware support was easily enough to leave the SNES in the dust, it required being transferred to the mega drive as background data, and this transition consumed most of the mega drive’s CPU bandwidth and often required a seriously reduced frame rate, as is the case with Sonic CD. In prototype versions of the games the title screen was 320x224@60fps, but when they added scaling for the clouds, just that required the reduction to 256x224@20fps, and the special stages couldn’t even achieve 20 even at the lower resolution. If something like After Burner was ported over, it would run at a lower resolution than the arcade and could run at a much lower frame rate unless it was very well programmed. Some game’s managed it quite well, but as you could see with Core Design’s efforts, some games handled the scaling great but others like BC Racers run much worse.
Back in 93 My best friend mom bought him a first model sega CD and it came with sherlock Holmes game,sol feace,sega genesis 4 in 1 disc and a information society music disc which I remember came all bundle in with the unit and a copy of night trap which was our first time watching full motion video on a game console and that blew me away
I was already an adult of 25 years when the SegaCD was released, still sits under my Genesis. It had a lot of great games and just an FYI, the FMV games are their own genre and are fun. Some are better than others. But they have merit. Not everything has to be a damn FPS. You're an old timer like me LordX, keep up the great work and represent us old school gamers.
@@mirabilis the young people who played these games when they were new are fuckin old now! Just because they got older doesn't mean they have to stop liking them. Shit it's really only gotten easier to be into this hobby, because the content has matured with us. When we were kids all this stuff was made for children, now it's made mostly for adults. We'll all be oldsters one day. I know I'll still be rocking some games when I'm in the nursing home.
Generation X rules. We were the first generation to experience video gaming as kids. That's why I still enjoy and love video games at age 48 in late 2020. Generation X-perinece indeed.
broo SLX isn't that old, come on now! 🤨 haha Btw, not sure why you mention FPS games since there was very few back in that gen of gaming. I don't think they really blew up until the original Xbox was introduced
Great video! The Sega CD is called "Sega CD" here in Brazil though, which I always thought to be weird, since we use the Mega Drive name here, so Mega CD would make a lot more sense, but who knows what happens inside the minds of Tectoy's executives.
Hey Sega Lord, as someone with an uncle who worked at Sega of America throughout the early to mid 90s, i just wanted to enlighten you about something. As the Sega CD was one of his biggest and most involved projects during his time there, the sad fact of the matter is for whatever reason, the Sega CD was unfortunately unable to reproduce the vast majority, if not all Super Scaler games with the hardware inside of it and be able to hold even a steady 30fps. As a result the general consensus at the time was that it was a waste of resources to scale down those games for release on the unit, when it was already being done on the Genesis for many of them (albeit at much more scaled down levels than the SCD would've still been able to produce with it's own short comings). This is also the reason SEGA got to work so quickly on getting versions of After Burner and Space Harrier out when the 32x came around, as getting out faithful versions of Super Scaler games for the home market sooner rather than later was certainly a priority, it was just felt to be redundant at the time to scale back the games for release yet again with any concessions beyond halving the original frame rates seen as unacceptable. A bit of little known info by the way is that they also had a faithful port of Outrun in development with one other Super Scaler game that is escaping me at the moment for 32x that was started after the completion of the first 2, only with the 60fps intact (which given more time or perhaps simultaneous resources was entirely possible with the first 2 as well), but of course thanks to the stalled sales of the add-on they were stopped about midway through development to get more hands on deck for the Saturn, especially with it being released earlier than originally planned. The Saturn's early release actually caused quite a few SEGA developed/produced 32x games to be canned, which was in fact a bigger reason than even the sales figures. The ball was just so thoroughly dropped in several ways during the 94-97 time period at SEGA, and us dedicated SEGA faithful gamers truly suffered as a result...
I realize this vid is 2 years old, but i just hacked my genesis mini and added a few scd games and I'm blown away by how awesome this is. Much better than the tg16 cd i had as a kid.
Oh yeah there are some great gems on the Sega CD and I own the actual hardware "most being rpgs/platformers". Still when the Genesis Mini was announced I was surprised that snatcher, Sonic CD, Lunar 1-2, Popfual Mail, Vay, Keio, Night-Trap, Time Gal ect where no where to be seen. I get that Sega wanted to keep manufacturing cost down, still if it had just a few of the games I mentioned loaded onto the system it would've done sold even better IMO.
Yes!!! Thank you Sega Lord X for giving the Sega CD some well deserved love. This console add on gets so much hate because of the FMV games. But most people don't know that back then that was a big thing. I got a Sega CD the first year it came out an it's been my favorite game console. Games like wonder dog blew me away as a kid with the cartoon intro those big bright an detailed backgrounds and that amazing CD audio sound track.
@@kylmon4759 most people, means all those people you often see online trying to bash the Sega CD and say that all it had was trash FMV games. They didn't grow up durning that time so they don't understand just how amazing that tech was for its time. I personally liked a lot of the FMV games at the time.
@@buckroger6456 Yeah but that just implies most people is these ignorant kids out here spreadin nonsense, they could easily figure out the history and put themselves in how it was in 1992 and objectively know about the system despite their personal opinion. But instead niggas jst sheep riding on a wave of ignorance cuz its hip.. even tho they weren’t in the time, dnt kno anything bout the console, and have never owned or played any of the consoles games. All this to say, we dont give a shit about these ppl.. so anything they have to say isn’t credible
As someone who is missing about 30 games from a complete set, I have to say I love the Sega CD. It's one of, if not my all time favorite system. Great video and thanks for putting this together! !
I'm glad you didn't cover only FMV. There are already so many videos on those... its good you focused on the good games. I remember my cousin had a model one and would bring it over when he stayed for a weekend in the summer. The cost was just crazy though... my parents would never justify spending $300 on "just an add on" to my Genesis. I did end up getting the CDX when I was older and more into collecting... regretfully I sold it a few years ago when I needed some extra cash.
Nintendo was great too. I had Sega back in the day but they were both pretty good. Don't feel bad. It's good to look at things with a new age pair of eyes.
Nintendo's SNES was a phenomenal system though. It was slow but even the Sega CD couldn't graphically compete with the SNES because of the VDP limits of the Genesis. I had both and enjoyed all the games but overall, the SNES was the better system. But there were amazing games on Genesis and Sega CD too.
It is legit slowly becoming my favorite sega system. I love the sound quality, the narrative on many game, those are one of a kind games! Got lunar, Vay (which is underrated), ahinning force CD, popful mail, sonic CD, earthworms jim, mortal kombat 1, soul Star, Dark Wizard and final fight CD! Just love it! I know i wont ever have the chance to play snatcher since it's out of my budget, bust from what I saw so far, this system is insane! Even love the big case of it! Awesome underrated system!
The problem with being a kid during this time period was that just asking for the console and a game was hard enough, but the companies had to push it so that you also had to ask for a SEGA CD and 32X and then games for those add-ons as well. Most parents couldn't understand this because they thought that they had already bought the console to play games, not that they have to keep buying add-on after add-on plus more games. So most kids just had the base unit. You only got the add-ons if you were already an adult with a good job and where hell bent on treating yourself to the best SEGA experience that was available, but even then when you bought a game, if you just so happen to buy a shitty full motion video one then you felt burned. So the SEGA CD did have some really great games for it, but you had to have the money and be willing to do the research to find out which games were the good ones to get. But if more developers had decided to make some really cool games for the SEGA CD then it really would have been something amazing! The market may have been limited due to the price but it also did some really cool stuff and if you could afford it then you really did get an awesome experience.
MEGA CD is underrated! I own my childhood MEGA CD "the first version" and still play today.. I have a fair few original disks, I have loads on CD-r's like imports etc.. MEGA CD/SEGA CD is not copy protected.. You can patch region disk images.. If you have a Everdrive you can change the MEGA CD bios region via the cartridge if you have the different bios images on the SD card.. I like everything SEGA and always will do..
I wholeheartly agree. This system was one I always wanted in my youth. And thankfully I was able to find a working system, when I got a Sega Mega Drive Model 1 from a Charity Shop for $5AU. I got it with a 32X online, and I play it all the time. Isn't it surprising that a 30 yr old system still works perfectly, while newer systems like the PS4 break down after a couple of years!
As a kid growing up I had a Model 1 Genesis that i loved (and still have), couldn't personally afford the Sega CD but had a few friends that had it. Simple truth is neither of them ever said "I wish I would have got X instead". Theres no more ringing endorsement in my mind.
There are two Sega CD games that looked freaking amazing to me as a kid when I found out about them. Mega Schwarzschild and After Armageddon Gaiden. There was no way a game like Schwarzschild would ever come out of Japan but there was talk of bringing After Armageddon Gaiden out in 1995 but by then the Sega CD was done for. What a shame.
The Sega CD has a special place in my heart. I'm a big RPG fan and, before FF7 grabbed my attention, I'd obsess over FF6. Unfortunately, we were a Sega household but fortunately, we had a Sega CD and Lunar 1 and 2 were some of the best RPGs available. They're still fun plays today. I'll fire up the ol emulator and play Lunar 2. Working Designs was one of the best translators ever. I still laugh at dialogue they wrote decades ago. I appreciate the translation more today than I ever did as a child.
Oh... If I could tell you, wait, I can, the Sega CD games that I saw being demoed at SOA in Redwood City back in the day. Sewer Shark, Night Trap, etc? Some of these games were designed for VHS tapes. That isn't a typo. They were designed for the ISIX Nemo console, basically a game console that used frame blitting software to grab shots out and spew them on the screen. For the time, it was very very advanced tech, compared to the CD-ROM hardware that wouldn't come out for another 5 years later. And did I mention it was made to run off VHS?
It cost too much for what it offered, but most of that is on the third party developers, for not making more games like Soul Star and Silpheed. But Sega deserves some blame too. Demanding a certain level of quality "No cart games with a CD soundtrack tacked on. No 'movie' games, etc." would have done a world of good.
>It cost too much for what it offered Not really. It was sold for about the same price as the PC Engine CD except that the Mega-CD has many more hardware features: its own M68000 @12,5 MHz, 8 channels Ricoh PCM chip, ASIC scaling/rotation chip... and thus it offers experiences like Silpheed, Final Fight CD or Soul Star which are on a whole other league than what the PC Engine CD can do. >but most of that is on the third party developers, for not making more games like Soul Star and Silpheed It's rather Sega that should have made more of these. Sega who were the kings of Super Scaler games, *who made the Mega-CD mainly with the ASIC chip in mind* but who barely used it. That's puzzling to say the least. But the Mega-CD is also a perfect machine for just about everything else, from shooters to RPGs, and it received very good support from several third-party developers such as Wolf Team, Game Arts, Konami, Koei, Core Design or Traveller's Tales with many great games like Lunar 1 and 2, Snatcher, Dennin Aleste, Shin Megami Tensei, Road Blaster FX, Eye of the Beholder, Flink or Mickey Mania. >No cart games with a CD soundtrack tacked on Now that's another misconception. Not only a full new CD soundtrack is already quite the treat but actually many of the Mega Drive to Mega-CD ports have more than that since, depending of the cases, they also add FMV sequences/animation frames/new levels/new visual FX/etc. or even Super Scaler stages like with Batman Returns.
This was one of my favorite gaming add-ons when I was on the Sega bandwagon. I owned all four of Working Design's Sega CD titles, and I played them all of the time. I was both happy that my first CD-ROM system was so cool with some excellent titles but sad that some of the other titles weren't that good. I really tried to like FMV, but some of it was pretty bad. The ones you showed here were the good ones. And now I want to try those CORE titles. Thanks Sega Lord X!!!
I remember buying mine used in 1995 at a video game store. I didn’t know anyone else that had one but i was always curious about the console. I got sonic CD . Ecco CD and wonderdog. I remember passing on keo flying squadron that was 10 dollars!!!. Great console with a lot of unused potential.
Ohhh Keio for 10$!!! Whew ~ I wanted Popful Mail for 29.99$ as a gift one time ... I shoulda pushed harder! I was convinced to pick up the 3 Ninjas+Hook combo instead ... Ugh ....
I got one for Christmas '94. Best Christmas present ever during my childhood. I played a lot the games that came with it. I even liked the "INXS make your own video" game. Sonic CD FTW.
Christmas '96 was when my Sega CD was underneath the tree. I have video footage of me opening it and getting all exited about it. I still remember playing Sewer Shark with my dad laughing when the guy in the intro was yelling at us. I would say Sewer Shark is one of the best FMV games. So much humour and a decent rail shooter. I went on to get some other games but not too many. Games like Ecco Tides of Time. I use to love watching those hidden videos in the game and the music.. Ohhh man soo goood. I would play it in my CD player and fall asleep to it. I would eventually get Sonic Cd and I was blown away by the music but I felt it was really easy and I just ran through the whole thing. One day I'll go back to it and sit down and actually explore and just enjoy everything it has to offer. Jursassic Park CD was hard as hell for me when I was a kid. I remember always dieing by the Velocirapters. Iron Helix was another tough one for me but I really enjoyed it. I love the atmosphere in that game. It would be cool if they remade it but everything in 3d and more actiony, less click and point. Oh and the title music was amazing. I would listen to it over and over again. It's some sort of industrial electronic music and I had it blasting through my dads surround sound. I had fun with NHL 94' aswell but my least favourite would probably be Steller Fire yet I still had some enjoyment out of it. My last game I had in my Sega CD library was Willy Beamish and I remeber getting so far in it but ended up getting stuck and was never able to finish it. It was a cool and unique experience. So many good memories with the Sega CD. I still play it to this day. Games like Final Fight Cd, Popful Mail (Repro of course) It's a shame that everything has skyrocketed up in price but that's to be expected.
Soul Star is something to behold on 16 bit! I own it and to me it looks alot like a 32 bit title graphically! My all time favorite fmv has to go to Sewer Shark. I still enjoy it from time to time. Great vid!
Agreed. I got mine by playing the cd player angle. My dad broke my cd boom box, and they owed me a new one. I asked for the SCD, and once i told my mom it also would replace my cd player, I got it. Oct 93, the model 2 was $229 ....with sewer shark. Somehow my mom found a new model 1, which came with way more games. Man I loved that thing!
@@yjzep9922 I made mention of it elsewhere in the comments, but I got mine in 93 or 94 from a friend who no longer wanted it. Got it for $100 with 7 games. One of the best buys in my gaming history.
@@jmarx3943 that's kinda how I got my SNES. Buddy got it at launch, and got suspended from school for fighting 2 weeks later (we were 12/13 ish). His mom sold his SNES to us as a punishment. So I got an SNES in 1991 for $80. Only caveat was his parents first cut his controller cords, so they were spliced and taped lol. They lasted until 2004 when I sold my SNES stuff. Only way I was getting a SNES. I was a sega kid by by then.
Sega CD Thunderhawk/Thunderstrike started life as a cartridge title. Thanks to Sarah Jane Avory for the information Megadrive version of Thunderhawk looked the same as the Amiga version, and ran just as fast. In fact, it took me just 1 day to port a working version of the 3D engine from Amiga to Megadrive. Would've like to have finished the project, but then Mega-CD came along and so the project was shelved.
I still have my original CDX and have meany great memories playing games on it as well as using it as a portable CD player on my subway commutes. I still pull it out now and again, hook it up to the TV and enjoy some classic 16-bit gaming goodness. Nice walk down memory lane!
Sega Lord X, another great video and as another actual Sega CD owner I totally agree with you 100%! I mistakenly sold my original Sega Genesis, Sega CD, 32X combo because of the allure of the "new" 32 bit systems like the Saturn. I actually loved the Saturn, don't get me wrong but I also missed the fun I had with games on the Sega CD. As an adult collector the Sega CD is one of the systems that got me into retro gaming and dare I say it, I am actually enjoying the system more now than I did back in the day. Keep up the great work man! Hopefully with the released of the new Polymega more people will be able to play and appreciate these great Sega CD games.
I had a sega CD when i was a kid. Many owners were probably like me. The best games i owned were spider man and sonic CD. With games like power rangers where you just push a button to a timed prompt and uncontrollable garbage like top gun taking up two slots in your library you were screwed
fantastic job! I am a massive Sega CD fan ever since my friend got one when it first came out, I am still impressed with it. Today I love it for games like Mortal Kombat, Hook, Shining Force CD and Lords of Thunder. Some of the really good games are super expensive but at least you can burn them to try it out first.
One of my fav devices to play games on since 1993 =) Great video !!! Eternal Champions CD, Sonic CD, Final Fight CD, space shooters (some look 32 bit), Batman, Snatcher, Terminator, and last time I checked only Kinect sold more as an add on than SegaCD. SegaCD is the N. Tesla of hardware =) but history will be re written !
I 100% agreed that Sega CD is so underrated. Sadly, like you said, the cost killed it. I played Shining Force CD and I had a lot of fun playing it again despite all massive flaws.
Finally, a youtuber that speaks to a mid 30s gamer such as myself. Excellent video! Extra like for using the Sonic CD US OST instrumentals here. You've well earned my subscription.
For as long as I live, I will never understand how they released this thing without increasing the number of onscreen colours. It was not only the Genesis' biggest weakness, it was completely necessary for FMV that didn't look like oatmeal. They obviously designed it with video playback as one of its core features, but someone didn't think it through at all.
Here in Australia, it was way too expensive and we had hardly any decent games for it at all. Half of the games you said were released "in the west", were only released in the U.S. We never got the 32X/Mega Cd games here and games like Snatcher were released in very small numbers, if any.
They did come out but they were stupidly expensive. I mean 400 for the CD? and even similar price for the 32x? That was a lot of money in Australia in the 90s.
I remember going to a "computer" shop and they had a 32X for $500! And, where I am, it was the only place that had them back in 1995, which I think might have been after it was dead. The 32X/Mega Cd games that I made mention of before were the ones that needed both to run (Corpse Killer had an enhanced version that required both systems to run).
Man, I loved the Sega CD. It's how I first played Time Gal, Dragon's Lair, and a faithful port of Final Fight. I also loved Lunar, it was unlike any RPG I played at the time. And a few years later when I played Lunar II and Snatcher, I was simply blown away. Great video for a great console add-on. Oh and a sidenote: I've never even seen that big version of the Sega CD. I guess we got the less expensive side loader.
Great video and great commentary . I love the sega cd and the genesis is my favorite system ever. I really wish sega would have ported over a lot of the popular arcade beat em ups at the time like the Simpsons, Xmen and especially The Revenge of Death Adder.
The real irony is that the Sega CD was packaged with a Sega Classics Arcade Collection which included Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Columns and Revenge of Shinobi.
Glad to see you highlight the great shooters on the Sega CD. Android Assault is a favorite, and one of the strongest original titles on the system, at least in that genre. Awesome soundtrack, too.
If you had one of these in 93 like myself,all the friends wanted to play at your house.My friends still talk about the first time they saw night trap,sewer shark, final fight,thunderhawk and sylpheed.Glad I kept it all and added the games that I wanted as a kid back in the early 00s.Expensive to pick up some of the exclusives now!
Some of my fondest memories from my childhood are of getting the Sega CD for Christmas. It's really too bad Sega botched the marketing so badly. There were a lot of great games.
Amazing video, I had no idea the Sega CD had such a strong catalogue of titles. But it's still Sega's fault for messing it up. As you showed at the start of the video, there was a bewildering array of different hardware with the Sega logo on it, ALL AT SAME TIME. You and I might be able to tell them apart, but not Mr and Mrs Consumer who just wanted to buy something for little Timmy who wanted a gaming console. Sega should have just stopped making the Mega Drive/Genesis and made the Sega CD as a successor, not an add-on for it. When they finally realised what they were doing wrong and made the Sega Saturn (a system I have much love for) Sony had already jumped in and stole the show by making the PlayStation easier for developers to make games for.
Back in the day, there was nothing cooler than snapping add-ons unto your favourite system. That's how i got my 64DD, and I sure wish I had a SEGA CD model 1, it just looks cool. Like a pedestal for the all-mighty console! PS: The Saturn and DC have bottom-fitting add-ons, as well, although not meant for retail purposes.
The Sega CD was a very unique experience! I bought one in 1994 or 95 and rented almost all of what blockbuster had for rent! The whole CD concept was like wow and ground breaking!
Its a great system with an unsung sleeper library. Sega needs to make a classic edition it and also the 32x. Tons of great stuff that is waiting to be shown once again.
I approve the hell out of every single video you release! Dude you're bangin em out, and every video more informative than the last. You should release a special edition DVD of your videos!!!
Great video and some excellent games recommended. I've recently invested in a Mega SD and I'm absolutely loving exploring the Sega CD's back catalogue. I'd recommend Space Adventure to anyone that enjoyed Snatcher, great game!
I could not have put it better myself. I jumped in at the tail end of it's life getting a Sega CD for Christmas of 95 and basically scoring a ton of games on clearance at Toys "R" Us, Sears, and Montgomery Ward. It was under appreciated and an excellent device with unrealized potential. Having had one even at that time I was constantly impressed with what it could do as an upgrade to the Genesis.
It's fine to celebrate the unsung software from this system. But it's rewriting history to say that the launch and lifecycling of the Sega CD weren't bungled by Sega. They were absolutely bungled. If the Sega CD was priced as an add-on, then the lean library could be justified as an add-on's library. But the Sega CD was priced as a system, not as an add-on. It's telling that of the gems you mention, none of them are the ones Sega actually spent money advertising in the US and trying to get us to buy. Where's Sewer Shark, Night Trap, Marky Mark's Make My Video, Scottie Pippen's Slam City? If you had unlimited cash to firehose at discs, sure, eventually you would find quality. But the average consumer's experience was getting burned by FMV games, realizing they were more shallow gimmicks than games, and then going back to their SNES and saving money for a fifth generation console like the Playstation or N64, something that you could trust to actually be supported with a robust library. Of the games that were touted at the time as being truly revolutionary, what was there? We'd already had our fill of Batman Returns thanks to Konami. Final Fight CD? We'd all gotten bored of that game in 1991, why were we going to buy a worse-looking version in 1993? Where was Sega's answer to Super Mario, Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Contra, Super Castlevania, Donkey Kong Country, Secret of Mana, Mega Man X? Where were Streets of Rage CD, Shinobi CD, Golden Axe CD, Phantasy Star CD, Mortal Kombat CD, Street Fighter 2 CD, Killer Instinct CD? What was there for people who wanted something deeper than a shooter or more demanding than an RPG? And why would you put any trust in Sega at all when they were simultaneously juggling the Genesis, Sega CD, and 32X, with the Saturn right on the horizon promising to make them all obsolete? The launch libraries of the NES, the Genesis, and the SNES had been rock solid, and the Sega CD's launch library just did not measure up. The badmouthing of this system didn't come from people who didn't own it, it came from people who paid good hard American cash for it, then watched it sit and gather dust.
It's obvious the lack of titles released utilizing the onboard scaling and rotation hardware of the Sega CD is a catastrophic missed opportunity. Such a shame because the few actual examples of it I've seen as an adult are impressive (to me at least) to this day.
Best Sega CD video I have ever seen. I agree to everything you said and if only sega had you as a commercial that thing would have sold millions. Great video. You should do other consoles too like this. Youre the man. Awe you aint got a Sega 32x video like this. Work on it.
Firstly I commend you for using the Sonic CD soundtrack in the background of this video. One of my top favorite games on this system. This video was very informative. I was the very first one to own one of these on launch day. The marketing was unfortunate as like you said they promoted the wrong titles. The FMV titles were a joke. Also while the library grew over time the initial launch titles hurt the potential popularity of this system. I was a believer because of what I saw the Super NES and especially TurboGrafx CD do for games. I was excited to see Sega get their hands dirty and release some exciting new experiences. I wouldn't have minded ports if they provided 15 year old me with a reason to give them a chance after the experience I had with them as carts. I still own a Sega CD Model 2 and a CDX and enjoy picking Sonic CD or Final Fight up to play anytime.
I personally liked the SegaCD, but they should've done what Nintendo did and included enhancement chips in cartridge games. The two biggest weaknesses with the Genesis were its maximum on screen colors and shit voice replication. If they could've addressed those two shortcomings and maybe included scaling (cost permitting) with an in-cart chip, I think it would've gone better long term.
vram1974 especially prior to the 32x release. Even they could have used the sh1 or sh2 including the sega cd Asic, as a enhancement chip along with SVP chip.
Should’ve used the lock on tech they developed and used that with their Virtua Racing to give other games access to the SVP chip without the added price.
I feel like Road Rash CD should be on here. Another game that needed a Sega CD port was revolution x. Some better arcade ports would have helped a lot. It needed more driving games and racing games, more light gun games and action platformers. Something I would have like to have seen was an arcade port of Michael Jackson's moonwalker that actually looked like the arcade game and a port of the real golden axe sequel from the arcades. A streets of rage trilogy would have been a welcome addition to the console maybe with remixed stages, music and updated controls for the older games. EDIT: It also needed some ports of Lucas arts adventure games.
It's great to see some people appreciate the Sega CD. Sega CD was released the same year I was born, but I never heard of it until Sonic CD introduced me to it in 2000 or 2001. I didn't get a Sega CD until 2010 and love it. I have games like "Earthworm Jim Special Edition", "NHL '94", "Silpheed", "Android Assault", "Final Fight CD" and "Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side". I have yet to get "Sonic CD", "The Terminator", "Soulstar", "Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure", etc.
i was too young when all these things came out, back in the 80s and 90s, it was considered normal for a household to have 1 console, even convincing my parents to upgrade to an snes took me a miracle, all i could do is look at these things in the shops and wish i could have them all, the megadrive, the 32x, the mega cd, the 3do , the jaguar, the neo geo.....i bet it would be nice to be an adult back in those days and buy them all like i am doing at this day and age, but what is there to buy today ? an xbox ? a playstation ? a switch ? a gaming pc ? and almost all have copy/paste games, remember when the snes games were different from the sega ones ? or at least had pros and cons? these days all they do is get different by detail and resolution and most of the time i end up buying the same game on different platform just for a better experience....miss the 90s my man, they were awesome.
i remeber having the cheaper one that sits beside it, remember being blown away when i played that sewer game were they used like real footage of people in a game and thinking about how more future games would implement this and improve on it, man was i wrong lmao
At the time the Sega CD had cred among my friends, though none of us had one. The hype made it seem like a big deal. The problem with it is that it was asking the consumer to buy an add-on that cost even more than a whole system. From a kid perspective it was already a though sell to get your parents to buy you even one videogame system. So you bugged them to buy you a Sega Genesis and then a year later ask them to get you a CD add-on that's even more expensive?! Yeah, right! And realistically if you could get your parents to agree to such a purchase it would actually be cheaper to get both and Genesis and SNES which would be a far better value than a Sega CD.
Sega CD may have been maligned in 1993, but it is so sought after and awesome in 2020. I recently bought one again earlier this year (2020) and totally relive it. I even found a copy of Lunar Eternal Blue on March 1, 2020 for $95 at a used video game store and immediately bought it knowing it was $190 on EBay and Amazon . Talk about lucky.
Agree. You have to be really careful on when and where you choose to go to the past to change the future, since you have limited chances to do so and you have to look for good spots to go into the past since you can lose your time warp if you slow down.
Purpleboye_ Concentrate on getting the Time stones in the special stages, if you get them all consecutively, you'll have all seven by the 2nd act of the 4th zone, Quartz Quadrant, and won't need to bother with time travel after that. The first few special stages are easier as the flying UFOs go slower, but each stage has it's own unique pattern. If you've unlocked all the stages for Time Attack play mode, try to get your combined time for all stages under 25 minutes as this unlocks Special Stage time Attack, which you can use to practice the special stages.
You see ironically the special stages are the hardest part, and I've just been trying to destroy all the roboticizers. Which is time consuming but at least doable. The controls and collision in the special stages are so bad that I could not get any time stones after the first one.
I'm sure you've seen this, th-cam.com/video/fkNA3-Nb3bM/w-d-xo.html This is played on the original Sega CD which has worse frame rate and responsiveness (for the special stages) than modern remakes (especially Christian Whitehead versions). Save for that 5th stone in this video ( there is a quicker pattern than the one shown here th-cam.com/video/O0I2ntv753w/w-d-xo.html ), these are pretty efficient ways to get all of them. Good luck.
I've mentioned before on this channel that I did not have a Genesis or any of its add-ons when they were considered current gen. I did pick up a Genesis model 2 with the Sega CD and a few games from a pawn shop during the Dreamcast's life cycle. One of the games was Final Fight CD and MAN, let me tell you...that would've been the definitive way to play the game at home at the time! I'm a huge fan of brawlers and Final Fight is one of my favorites. Two player support, all 3 characters included (can you tell I only had it on the SNES before?), corny English voice acting and that glorious CD quality soundtrack! Is it wrong to say that's one of the best games for Sega CD? Looking forward to replaying it with my son on that Analogue Mega SG!
Nice! I just got a Sega CD recently. My girlfriend gifted me Keio and Popful Mail😁 I have to replace the battery on the console in order to play Popful though.
If you do replace it, do NOT put a cr2032 in there. Find an ml2032. The cr isn't rechargeable, yet would be receiving charging while playing. I've seen them explode (as in leak all over the place).
@@MrSerpico145 not like boom, but like cracked open and threw up all the corrosive crap all over the motherboard. Top be fair, the guy left the dreamcast on for 2 days, but while running, the systems run voltage to the battery to charge it. A battery that isn't set up to take a recharge will boil eventually.
This unit cost $400 Canadian back in the day, and was launched literally when other CD based consoles like the 3D0 were born. It is too bad that the hardware was barely realized or advertised regarding the hardware improvements users. Also you are completely right: a proper scaling version of Outrun was possible and could have really illustrated what the system could really do. I also treasure my JVC X'Eye.
Totally agree here ! I boughta japanese Sega CD last year and I've found some must have games (Robo Aleste, Final Fight CD, Sonic CD, Keio Yugekitai and Bari Arms justify the buy) ! Glad to see some honest review of the system which tends to be glued by the FMV crap (stupid Sega of America marketting).
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me encanta tu trabajo, mi única máquina de Sega fue una Dreamcast y me hizo muy feliz, thanks for making these videos and greetings from colombia 🇨🇴
I had the JVC X eye growing up. I remember my dad gave it to me early for my birthday gift. He read the box and said it played genesis and sega cd games, but since it wasn't Sega hardware, he didn't think it would of worked hence why he gave it to me early. From what I gather not many have survived.
I loved my Sega CDx !! It played Cartridge & CD Games. It could also play music cd's!! Very portable too. My fav games: Road Avenger, Sol Feace, Dragons Lair, Time Gal
My cousins got one of the original Sega CDs around its release time, and even under the age of 10, I was blown away by the increased graphics, video, and sound. Final Fight looked just like the arcade. Sonic CD did things the Genesis games could never do. Silpheed had those amazing backgrounds and clear (for the time) voice work. My siblings and I pooled our money and bought a Sega and Sega CD around 96. By this point, it was rare to find a Sega CD game in stores, but I managed to snap up a few. Spider-Man was a blast, especially with its fully animated cutscenes. I even enjoyed Sewer Sharks. It was challenging, and it actually told a full story from start to finish. I'm sure it doesn't play great now. Still, the Sega CD had a lot to offer. If they could have brought down the launch price, advertised the good games, and stuck with it through the Saturn launch, I think it could have really been something.
I bought me a Sega CD this year and I LOVE it. I never owned one back in the day since Moms couldn't afford one then.
Yes it was expensive
I had a model 2 genesis/Sega CD model 2/32x Set up back the day. Miss that set up, but did just get me a model 2 genesis and model 2 CD over Xmas so I am happy anyway.
@@homejonny9326 Indeed it was. Never met anybody who could afford it back in the day.
Wish I still had mine. I only ever owned Sewer Shark and was at the mercy of my local Blockbuster for all other games
You had two moms?
Boy I loved Sega CD when it came out. It was so eye-catching and advanced at the time. I remember being extremely excited to read about it pre-launch and rushed to EB to play it when they got the kiosk. Working Designs stuff had me drooling. Some absolutely awesome games in the library.
EB... what a throwbackkkkk
Thank you so much. As a Sega CD owner I can say that it had some fantastic games. I read reviews in magazines so I knew which ones to avoid. I was also fortunate enough to have video stores that would rent Sega CD games. I probably played more Sega CD games then Genesis games. My list of games I owned:
Sol-Feace
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective vol. 1
Sega Classics (Streets of Rage, Revenge of Shinobi, Golden Axe, and Columns)
Sonic CD
Spider-Man vs. the Kingpin
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Terminator
Final Fight
Road Avenger
Lunar
The Adventures of Willy Beamish
almost forgot Mortal Kombat
Awesome review! Such an underrated system. Snatcher, Sonic CD and Shining Force CD were played many a night sir!
Another great video. I've owned a Sega CD since launch and have echoed your very sentiments many times to those who think the system was a flop, doesn't offer good games, or was the start of Sega's downfall.
Jenovi *sentiments
Heath Goetsch I blame auto correct on my phone. 😉
It was a solid add-on. Unfortunately in those times new tech was expensive as hell. It delivered what it promised during its short lifespan.
The downfall started when they released the 32x.
Sega CD was good but 32x screwed me.
@@brandonmuse5532 at the time of 32x, I was saving money for a playstation 1. No regrets from my decision.
One I the main reasons why so few people used the scaling and rotation features was because although the hardware support was easily enough to leave the SNES in the dust, it required being transferred to the mega drive as background data, and this transition consumed most of the mega drive’s CPU bandwidth and often required a seriously reduced frame rate, as is the case with Sonic CD. In prototype versions of the games the title screen was 320x224@60fps, but when they added scaling for the clouds, just that required the reduction to 256x224@20fps, and the special stages couldn’t even achieve 20 even at the lower resolution. If something like After Burner was ported over, it would run at a lower resolution than the arcade and could run at a much lower frame rate unless it was very well programmed. Some game’s managed it quite well, but as you could see with Core Design’s efforts, some games handled the scaling great but others like BC Racers run much worse.
Back in 93 My best friend mom bought him a first model sega CD and it came with sherlock Holmes game,sol feace,sega genesis 4 in 1 disc and a information society music disc which I remember came all bundle in with the unit and a copy of night trap which was our first time watching full motion video on a game console and that blew me away
I was already an adult of 25 years when the SegaCD was released, still sits under my Genesis. It had a lot of great games and just an FYI, the FMV games are their own genre and are fun. Some are better than others. But they have merit. Not everything has to be a damn FPS.
You're an old timer like me LordX, keep up the great work and represent us old school gamers.
Damn, you're old!
@@mirabilis the young people who played these games when they were new are fuckin old now! Just because they got older doesn't mean they have to stop liking them. Shit it's really only gotten easier to be into this hobby, because the content has matured with us. When we were kids all this stuff was made for children, now it's made mostly for adults. We'll all be oldsters one day. I know I'll still be rocking some games when I'm in the nursing home.
Generation X rules. We were the first generation to experience video gaming as kids. That's why I still enjoy and love video games at age 48 in late 2020. Generation X-perinece indeed.
broo SLX isn't that old, come on now! 🤨 haha Btw, not sure why you mention FPS games since there was very few back in that gen of gaming. I don't think they really blew up until the original Xbox was introduced
Its great to finally see someone making a presentation for the Sega CD on a positive tone. Subscribed!
Great video! The Sega CD is called "Sega CD" here in Brazil though, which I always thought to be weird, since we use the Mega Drive name here, so Mega CD would make a lot more sense, but who knows what happens inside the minds of Tectoy's executives.
Yeah, yours looks exactly like ours here in the USA too. No different labels or anything.
Hey Sega Lord, as someone with an uncle who worked at Sega of America throughout the early to mid 90s, i just wanted to enlighten you about something. As the Sega CD was one of his biggest and most involved projects during his time there, the sad fact of the matter is for whatever reason, the Sega CD was unfortunately unable to reproduce the vast majority, if not all Super Scaler games with the hardware inside of it and be able to hold even a steady 30fps. As a result the general consensus at the time was that it was a waste of resources to scale down those games for release on the unit, when it was already being done on the Genesis for many of them (albeit at much more scaled down levels than the SCD would've still been able to produce with it's own short comings). This is also the reason SEGA got to work so quickly on getting versions of After Burner and Space Harrier out when the 32x came around, as getting out faithful versions of Super Scaler games for the home market sooner rather than later was certainly a priority, it was just felt to be redundant at the time to scale back the games for release yet again with any concessions beyond halving the original frame rates seen as unacceptable. A bit of little known info by the way is that they also had a faithful port of Outrun in development with one other Super Scaler game that is escaping me at the moment for 32x that was started after the completion of the first 2, only with the 60fps intact (which given more time or perhaps simultaneous resources was entirely possible with the first 2 as well), but of course thanks to the stalled sales of the add-on they were stopped about midway through development to get more hands on deck for the Saturn, especially with it being released earlier than originally planned. The Saturn's early release actually caused quite a few SEGA developed/produced 32x games to be canned, which was in fact a bigger reason than even the sales figures. The ball was just so thoroughly dropped in several ways during the 94-97 time period at SEGA, and us dedicated SEGA faithful gamers truly suffered as a result...
I realize this vid is 2 years old, but i just hacked my genesis mini and added a few scd games and I'm blown away by how awesome this is. Much better than the tg16 cd i had as a kid.
Oh yeah there are some great gems on the Sega CD and I own the actual hardware "most being rpgs/platformers". Still when the Genesis Mini was announced I was surprised that snatcher, Sonic CD, Lunar 1-2, Popfual Mail, Vay, Keio, Night-Trap, Time Gal ect where no where to be seen. I get that Sega wanted to keep manufacturing cost down, still if it had just a few of the games I mentioned loaded onto the system it would've done sold even better IMO.
Yes!!! Thank you Sega Lord X for giving the Sega CD some well deserved love.
This console add on gets so much hate because of the FMV games. But most people don't know that back then that was a big thing. I got a Sega CD the first year it came out an it's been my favorite game console. Games like wonder dog blew me away as a kid with the cartoon intro those big bright an detailed backgrounds and that amazing CD audio sound track.
I'm happy for ya
FfCD
wut do u mean “most ppl”
if u grew up in 1992 then u knew 😂
@@kylmon4759 most people, means all those people you often see online trying to bash the Sega CD and say that all it had was trash FMV games. They didn't grow up durning that time so they don't understand just how amazing that tech was for its time. I personally liked a lot of the FMV games at the time.
@@buckroger6456 Yeah but that just implies most people is these ignorant kids out here spreadin nonsense, they could easily figure out the history and put themselves in how it was in 1992 and objectively know about the system despite their personal opinion. But instead niggas jst sheep riding on a wave of ignorance cuz its hip.. even tho they weren’t in the time, dnt kno anything bout the console, and have never owned or played any of the consoles games.
All this to say, we dont give a shit about these ppl.. so anything they have to say isn’t credible
As someone who is missing about 30 games from a complete set, I have to say I love the Sega CD. It's one of, if not my all time favorite system. Great video and thanks for putting this together! !
I envy your collection.
I'm glad you didn't cover only FMV. There are already so many videos on those... its good you focused on the good games. I remember my cousin had a model one and would bring it over when he stayed for a weekend in the summer. The cost was just crazy though... my parents would never justify spending $300 on "just an add on" to my Genesis. I did end up getting the CDX when I was older and more into collecting... regretfully I sold it a few years ago when I needed some extra cash.
I'm mad at myself that I was such a Nintendo fan back and n the day. Sega was awesome and I hate I didn't embrace the 16bit system like I should have
Nintendo was great too. I had Sega back in the day but they were both pretty good. Don't feel bad. It's good to look at things with a new age pair of eyes.
Nintendo was streets ahead of sega but sega had some great games
Get the Genesis Mini. The games are still worth playing.
Nintendo's SNES was a phenomenal system though. It was slow but even the Sega CD couldn't graphically compete with the SNES because of the VDP limits of the Genesis. I had both and enjoyed all the games but overall, the SNES was the better system. But there were amazing games on Genesis and Sega CD too.
@@axelfoley20 I don’t believe the Snes could have done Snatcher at all. I could be wrong but I just can’t see it.
Just came across your channel and I’m glad I did 😊 this is really nicely put together!
Roly 😍😍😍😍😘
It is legit slowly becoming my favorite sega system. I love the sound quality, the narrative on many game, those are one of a kind games!
Got lunar, Vay (which is underrated), ahinning force CD, popful mail, sonic CD, earthworms jim, mortal kombat 1, soul Star, Dark Wizard and final fight CD! Just love it! I know i wont ever have the chance to play snatcher since it's out of my budget, bust from what I saw so far, this system is insane! Even love the big case of it! Awesome underrated system!
The problem with being a kid during this time period was that just asking for the console and a game was hard enough, but the companies had to push it so that you also had to ask for a SEGA CD and 32X and then games for those add-ons as well. Most parents couldn't understand this because they thought that they had already bought the console to play games, not that they have to keep buying add-on after add-on plus more games. So most kids just had the base unit. You only got the add-ons if you were already an adult with a good job and where hell bent on treating yourself to the best SEGA experience that was available, but even then when you bought a game, if you just so happen to buy a shitty full motion video one then you felt burned. So the SEGA CD did have some really great games for it, but you had to have the money and be willing to do the research to find out which games were the good ones to get. But if more developers had decided to make some really cool games for the SEGA CD then it really would have been something amazing! The market may have been limited due to the price but it also did some really cool stuff and if you could afford it then you really did get an awesome experience.
MEGA CD is underrated! I own my childhood MEGA CD "the first version" and still play today.. I have a fair few original disks, I have loads on CD-r's like imports etc.. MEGA CD/SEGA CD is not copy protected.. You can patch region disk images.. If you have a Everdrive you can change the MEGA CD bios region via the cartridge if you have the different bios images on the SD card.. I like everything SEGA and always will do..
Nice.
I wholeheartly agree. This system was one I always wanted in my youth. And thankfully I was able to find a working system, when I got a Sega Mega Drive Model 1 from a Charity Shop for $5AU. I got it with a 32X online, and I play it all the time. Isn't it surprising that a 30 yr old system still works perfectly, while newer systems like the PS4 break down after a couple of years!
As a kid growing up I had a Model 1 Genesis that i loved (and still have), couldn't personally afford the Sega CD but had a few friends that had it. Simple truth is neither of them ever said "I wish I would have got X instead". Theres no more ringing endorsement in my mind.
There are two Sega CD games that looked freaking amazing to me as a kid when I found out about them.
Mega Schwarzschild and After Armageddon Gaiden. There was no way a game like Schwarzschild would ever come out of Japan but there was talk of bringing After Armageddon Gaiden out in 1995 but by then the Sega CD was done for. What a shame.
Sega Cd... Out of all the consoles I've ever owned, this is my favorite.
The Sega CD has a special place in my heart. I'm a big RPG fan and, before FF7 grabbed my attention, I'd obsess over FF6. Unfortunately, we were a Sega household but fortunately, we had a Sega CD and Lunar 1 and 2 were some of the best RPGs available. They're still fun plays today. I'll fire up the ol emulator and play Lunar 2. Working Designs was one of the best translators ever. I still laugh at dialogue they wrote decades ago. I appreciate the translation more today than I ever did as a child.
The Lunar games are among the best RPG's ever made.
I really want to make an RPG for the MegaCD32x combo. The tower of power never had it’s potential unlocked.
On the pi I have discovered alot of gems on the sega cd thanks to your channel. Snatcher is a masterpiece so far.
Oh... If I could tell you, wait, I can, the Sega CD games that I saw being demoed at SOA in Redwood City back in the day. Sewer Shark, Night Trap, etc? Some of these games were designed for VHS tapes. That isn't a typo. They were designed for the ISIX Nemo console, basically a game console that used frame blitting software to grab shots out and spew them on the screen. For the time, it was very very advanced tech, compared to the CD-ROM hardware that wouldn't come out for another 5 years later. And did I mention it was made to run off VHS?
It cost too much for what it offered, but most of that is on the third party developers, for not making more games like Soul Star and Silpheed. But Sega deserves some blame too. Demanding a certain level of quality "No cart games with a CD soundtrack tacked on. No 'movie' games, etc." would have done a world of good.
>It cost too much for what it offered
Not really. It was sold for about the same price as the PC Engine CD except that the Mega-CD has many more hardware features: its own M68000 @12,5 MHz, 8 channels Ricoh PCM chip, ASIC scaling/rotation chip... and thus it offers experiences like Silpheed, Final Fight CD or Soul Star which are on a whole other league than what the PC Engine CD can do.
>but most of that is on the third party developers, for not making more games like Soul Star and Silpheed
It's rather Sega that should have made more of these. Sega who were the kings of Super Scaler games, *who made the Mega-CD mainly with the ASIC chip in mind* but who barely used it. That's puzzling to say the least. But the Mega-CD is also a perfect machine for just about everything else, from shooters to RPGs, and it received very good support from several third-party developers such as Wolf Team, Game Arts, Konami, Koei, Core Design or Traveller's Tales with many great games like Lunar 1 and 2, Snatcher, Dennin Aleste, Shin Megami Tensei, Road Blaster FX, Eye of the Beholder, Flink or Mickey Mania.
>No cart games with a CD soundtrack tacked on
Now that's another misconception. Not only a full new CD soundtrack is already quite the treat but actually many of the Mega Drive to Mega-CD ports have more than that since, depending of the cases, they also add FMV sequences/animation frames/new levels/new visual FX/etc. or even Super Scaler stages like with Batman Returns.
I have the CDX. I bought it like 20 years ago. The system still works, and I really enjoy how compact it is.
I remember playing Ground Zero Texas it was a fun game and the FMV was not bad.
This was one of my favorite gaming add-ons when I was on the Sega bandwagon. I owned all four of Working Design's Sega CD titles, and I played them all of the time. I was both happy that my first CD-ROM system was so cool with some excellent titles but sad that some of the other titles weren't that good. I really tried to like FMV, but some of it was pretty bad. The ones you showed here were the good ones. And now I want to try those CORE titles. Thanks Sega Lord X!!!
I remember buying mine used in 1995 at a video game store. I didn’t know anyone else that had one but i was always curious about the console. I got sonic CD . Ecco CD and wonderdog. I remember passing on keo flying squadron that was 10 dollars!!!. Great console with a lot of unused potential.
Ohhh Keio for 10$!!! Whew ~
I wanted Popful Mail for 29.99$ as a gift one time ... I shoulda pushed harder! I was convinced to pick up the 3 Ninjas+Hook combo instead ... Ugh ....
I got one for Christmas '94. Best Christmas present ever during my childhood. I played a lot the games that came with it. I even liked the "INXS make your own video" game. Sonic CD FTW.
Christmas '96 was when my Sega CD was underneath the tree. I have video footage of me opening it and getting all exited about it. I still remember playing Sewer Shark with my dad laughing when the guy in the intro was yelling at us. I would say Sewer Shark is one of the best FMV games. So much humour and a decent rail shooter. I went on to get some other games but not too many. Games like Ecco Tides of Time. I use to love watching those hidden videos in the game and the music.. Ohhh man soo goood. I would play it in my CD player and fall asleep to it. I would eventually get Sonic Cd and I was blown away by the music but I felt it was really easy and I just ran through the whole thing. One day I'll go back to it and sit down and actually explore and just enjoy everything it has to offer. Jursassic Park CD was hard as hell for me when I was a kid. I remember always dieing by the Velocirapters. Iron Helix was another tough one for me but I really enjoyed it. I love the atmosphere in that game. It would be cool if they remade it but everything in 3d and more actiony, less click and point. Oh and the title music was amazing. I would listen to it over and over again. It's some sort of industrial electronic music and I had it blasting through my dads surround sound. I had fun with NHL 94' aswell but my least favourite would probably be Steller Fire yet I still had some enjoyment out of it. My last game I had in my Sega CD library was Willy Beamish and I remeber getting so far in it but ended up getting stuck and was never able to finish it. It was a cool and unique experience. So many good memories with the Sega CD.
I still play it to this day. Games like Final Fight Cd, Popful Mail (Repro of course) It's a shame that everything has skyrocketed up in price but that's to be expected.
Soul Star is something to behold on 16 bit! I own it and to me it looks alot like a 32 bit title graphically! My all time favorite fmv has to go to Sewer Shark. I still enjoy it from time to time. Great vid!
Soul Star absolutely still looks fantastic today. Definitely looks way ahead of it’s time.
@@Thor-Orion I agree! Its a shame more software of this quality didn't come to it.
So a high price point was the main problem. 300$ was alot of scratch back in the early 90s.
Agreed. I got mine by playing the cd player angle. My dad broke my cd boom box, and they owed me a new one. I asked for the SCD, and once i told my mom it also would replace my cd player, I got it. Oct 93, the model 2 was $229 ....with sewer shark. Somehow my mom found a new model 1, which came with way more games. Man I loved that thing!
@@yjzep9922 I made mention of it elsewhere in the comments, but I got mine in 93 or 94 from a friend who no longer wanted it. Got it for $100 with 7 games. One of the best buys in my gaming history.
@@jmarx3943 that's kinda how I got my SNES. Buddy got it at launch, and got suspended from school for fighting 2 weeks later (we were 12/13 ish). His mom sold his SNES to us as a punishment. So I got an SNES in 1991 for $80. Only caveat was his parents first cut his controller cords, so they were spliced and taped lol. They lasted until 2004 when I sold my SNES stuff.
Only way I was getting a SNES. I was a sega kid by by then.
@@yjzep9922 MY MOM GOT MINE I TOLD THAT'S ALL I WANTED LOL 400 BUCKS
300$ in todays money would be like 500$
Sega CD Thunderhawk/Thunderstrike started life as a cartridge title.
Thanks to Sarah Jane Avory for the information
Megadrive version of Thunderhawk looked the same as the Amiga version, and ran just as fast. In fact, it took me just 1 day to port a working version of the 3D engine from Amiga to Megadrive. Would've like to have finished the project, but then Mega-CD came along and so the project was shelved.
I still have my original CDX and have meany great memories playing games on it as well as using it as a portable CD player on my subway commutes. I still pull it out now and again, hook it up to the TV and enjoy some classic 16-bit gaming goodness. Nice walk down memory lane!
Sega Lord X, another great video and as another actual Sega CD owner I totally agree with you 100%! I mistakenly sold my original Sega Genesis, Sega CD, 32X combo because of the allure of the "new" 32 bit systems like the Saturn. I actually loved the Saturn, don't get me wrong but I also missed the fun I had with games on the Sega CD. As an adult collector the Sega CD is one of the systems that got me into retro gaming and dare I say it, I am actually enjoying the system more now than I did back in the day. Keep up the great work man! Hopefully with the released of the new Polymega more people will be able to play and appreciate these great Sega CD games.
After many years trying to get one, cause my father cant afford one at the day of the release, now I finally got one set up including the 32X.
I never even heard of those other Mega products. Man such a great lesson!
I saved like crazy to get the model 2 & all I played was RPG's.
I had a sega CD when i was a kid. Many owners were probably like me. The best games i owned were spider man and sonic CD. With games like power rangers where you just push a button to a timed prompt and uncontrollable garbage like top gun taking up two slots in your library you were screwed
fantastic job! I am a massive Sega CD fan ever since my friend got one when it first came out, I am still impressed with it. Today I love it for games like Mortal Kombat, Hook, Shining Force CD and Lords of Thunder. Some of the really good games are super expensive but at least you can burn them to try it out first.
One of my fav devices to play games on since 1993 =) Great video !!! Eternal Champions CD, Sonic CD, Final Fight CD, space shooters (some look 32 bit), Batman, Snatcher, Terminator, and last time I checked only Kinect sold more as an add on than SegaCD. SegaCD is the N. Tesla of hardware =) but history will be re written !
Along with the games I have already played, I made a list with 40 more games for the Sega CD. You helped me with quite a few. Great video
I love my Mega Drive and Mega CD (both mk1).
Soon as I can afford it, I'm getting that 32X to complete my tower of power.
I 100% agreed that Sega CD is so underrated. Sadly, like you said, the cost killed it. I played Shining Force CD and I had a lot of fun playing it again despite all massive flaws.
Finally, a youtuber that speaks to a mid 30s gamer such as myself. Excellent video! Extra like for using the Sonic CD US OST instrumentals here. You've well earned my subscription.
For as long as I live, I will never understand how they released this thing without increasing the number of onscreen colours. It was not only the Genesis' biggest weakness, it was completely necessary for FMV that didn't look like oatmeal. They obviously designed it with video playback as one of its core features, but someone didn't think it through at all.
Here in Australia, it was way too expensive and we had hardly any decent games for it at all. Half of the games you said were released "in the west", were only released in the U.S. We never got the 32X/Mega Cd games here and games like Snatcher were released in very small numbers, if any.
They did come out but they were stupidly expensive. I mean 400 for the CD? and even similar price for the 32x? That was a lot of money in Australia in the 90s.
I remember going to a "computer" shop and they had a 32X for $500! And, where I am, it was the only place that had them back in 1995, which I think might have been after it was dead. The 32X/Mega Cd games that I made mention of before were the ones that needed both to run (Corpse Killer had an enhanced version that required both systems to run).
Man, I loved the Sega CD. It's how I first played Time Gal, Dragon's Lair, and a faithful port of Final Fight. I also loved Lunar, it was unlike any RPG I played at the time. And a few years later when I played Lunar II and Snatcher, I was simply blown away.
Great video for a great console add-on.
Oh and a sidenote: I've never even seen that big version of the Sega CD. I guess we got the less expensive side loader.
Great video and great commentary . I love the sega cd and the genesis is my favorite system ever. I really wish sega would have ported over a lot of the popular arcade beat em ups at the time like the Simpsons, Xmen and especially The Revenge of Death Adder.
The real irony is that the Sega CD was packaged with a Sega Classics Arcade Collection which included Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, Columns and Revenge of Shinobi.
Glad to see you highlight the great shooters on the Sega CD. Android Assault is a favorite, and one of the strongest original titles on the system, at least in that genre. Awesome soundtrack, too.
I had a SEGA CD growing up, it was a fun system and I was glad to have one. My only complaint was SEGA focusing too much on motion video type games.
Those fmv games are a novelty at first but get boring fast I guess at time it was jaw dropping
If you had one of these in 93 like myself,all the friends wanted to play at your house.My friends still talk about the first time they saw night trap,sewer shark, final fight,thunderhawk and sylpheed.Glad I kept it all and added the games that I wanted as a kid back in the early 00s.Expensive to pick up some of the exclusives now!
Some of my fondest memories from my childhood are of getting the Sega CD for Christmas. It's really too bad Sega botched the marketing so badly. There were a lot of great games.
Great video matey! Love my Mega CD and the pride in my collection is my day one purchase of Snatcher!
Amazing video, I had no idea the Sega CD had such a strong catalogue of titles. But it's still Sega's fault for messing it up. As you showed at the start of the video, there was a bewildering array of different hardware with the Sega logo on it, ALL AT SAME TIME. You and I might be able to tell them apart, but not Mr and Mrs Consumer who just wanted to buy something for little Timmy who wanted a gaming console. Sega should have just stopped making the Mega Drive/Genesis and made the Sega CD as a successor, not an add-on for it. When they finally realised what they were doing wrong and made the Sega Saturn (a system I have much love for) Sony had already jumped in and stole the show by making the PlayStation easier for developers to make games for.
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Back in the day, there was nothing cooler than snapping add-ons unto your favourite system. That's how i got my 64DD, and I sure wish I had a SEGA CD model 1, it just looks cool. Like a pedestal for the all-mighty console! PS: The Saturn and DC have bottom-fitting add-ons, as well, although not meant for retail purposes.
The Sega CD was a very unique experience! I bought one in 1994 or 95 and rented almost all of what blockbuster had for rent! The whole CD concept was like wow and ground breaking!
Its a great system with an unsung sleeper library. Sega needs to make a classic edition it and also the 32x. Tons of great stuff that is waiting to be shown once again.
I approve the hell out of every single video you release! Dude you're bangin em out, and every video more informative than the last. You should release a special edition DVD of your videos!!!
Great video and some excellent games recommended. I've recently invested in a Mega SD and I'm absolutely loving exploring the Sega CD's back catalogue. I'd recommend Space Adventure to anyone that enjoyed Snatcher, great game!
I could not have put it better myself. I jumped in at the tail end of it's life getting a Sega CD for Christmas of 95 and basically scoring a ton of games on clearance at Toys "R" Us, Sears, and Montgomery Ward. It was under appreciated and an excellent device with unrealized potential. Having had one even at that time I was constantly impressed with what it could do as an upgrade to the Genesis.
I love your channel. You and MJR is my favorite retro TH-camrs. Your channel needs more attention
Now that the Genesis Mini is properly hacked, I am taking your advice and grabbing many CD games.
It's fine to celebrate the unsung software from this system. But it's rewriting history to say that the launch and lifecycling of the Sega CD weren't bungled by Sega. They were absolutely bungled.
If the Sega CD was priced as an add-on, then the lean library could be justified as an add-on's library. But the Sega CD was priced as a system, not as an add-on.
It's telling that of the gems you mention, none of them are the ones Sega actually spent money advertising in the US and trying to get us to buy. Where's Sewer Shark, Night Trap, Marky Mark's Make My Video, Scottie Pippen's Slam City? If you had unlimited cash to firehose at discs, sure, eventually you would find quality. But the average consumer's experience was getting burned by FMV games, realizing they were more shallow gimmicks than games, and then going back to their SNES and saving money for a fifth generation console like the Playstation or N64, something that you could trust to actually be supported with a robust library.
Of the games that were touted at the time as being truly revolutionary, what was there? We'd already had our fill of Batman Returns thanks to Konami. Final Fight CD? We'd all gotten bored of that game in 1991, why were we going to buy a worse-looking version in 1993? Where was Sega's answer to Super Mario, Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Contra, Super Castlevania, Donkey Kong Country, Secret of Mana, Mega Man X? Where were Streets of Rage CD, Shinobi CD, Golden Axe CD, Phantasy Star CD, Mortal Kombat CD, Street Fighter 2 CD, Killer Instinct CD? What was there for people who wanted something deeper than a shooter or more demanding than an RPG? And why would you put any trust in Sega at all when they were simultaneously juggling the Genesis, Sega CD, and 32X, with the Saturn right on the horizon promising to make them all obsolete? The launch libraries of the NES, the Genesis, and the SNES had been rock solid, and the Sega CD's launch library just did not measure up.
The badmouthing of this system didn't come from people who didn't own it, it came from people who paid good hard American cash for it, then watched it sit and gather dust.
It's obvious the lack of titles released utilizing the onboard scaling and rotation hardware of the Sega CD is a catastrophic missed opportunity. Such a shame because the few actual examples of it I've seen as an adult are impressive (to me at least) to this day.
Best Sega CD video I have ever seen. I agree to everything you said and if only sega had you as a commercial that thing would have sold millions. Great video. You should do other consoles too like this. Youre the man. Awe you aint got a Sega 32x video like this. Work on it.
Wow!! I am impressed with your research and background info. I never knew most of the info. 👍🙏 Thank You!!!
Firstly I commend you for using the Sonic CD soundtrack in the background of this video. One of my top favorite games on this system. This video was very informative. I was the very first one to own one of these on launch day. The marketing was unfortunate as like you said they promoted the wrong titles. The FMV titles were a joke. Also while the library grew over time the initial launch titles hurt the potential popularity of this system. I was a believer because of what I saw the Super NES and especially TurboGrafx CD do for games. I was excited to see Sega get their hands dirty and release some exciting new experiences. I wouldn't have minded ports if they provided 15 year old me with a reason to give them a chance after the experience I had with them as carts. I still own a Sega CD Model 2 and a CDX and enjoy picking Sonic CD or Final Fight up to play anytime.
Always learning something new when I watch your vids. Good Job man. Keep them videos coming.
love that sonic cd outro. thanks brotha, keep up the quality content
I personally liked the SegaCD, but they should've done what Nintendo did and included enhancement chips in cartridge games.
The two biggest weaknesses with the Genesis were its maximum on screen colors and shit voice replication. If they could've addressed those two shortcomings and maybe included scaling (cost permitting) with an in-cart chip, I think it would've gone better long term.
vram1974 especially prior to the 32x release. Even they could have used the sh1 or sh2 including the sega cd Asic, as a enhancement chip along with SVP chip.
Should’ve used the lock on tech they developed and used that with their Virtua Racing to give other games access to the SVP chip without the added price.
I feel like Road Rash CD should be on here. Another game that needed a Sega CD port was revolution x. Some better arcade ports would have helped a lot.
It needed more driving games and racing games, more light gun games and action platformers. Something I would have like to have seen was an arcade port of Michael Jackson's moonwalker that actually looked like the arcade game and a port of the real golden axe sequel from the arcades. A streets of rage trilogy would have been a welcome addition to the console maybe with remixed stages, music and updated controls for the older games.
EDIT: It also needed some ports of Lucas arts adventure games.
At least in the US you got Monkey Island. In Europe we didn't get that or Road Rash.
It's great to see some people appreciate the Sega CD. Sega CD was released the same year I was born, but I never heard of it until Sonic CD introduced me to it in 2000 or 2001. I didn't get a Sega CD until 2010 and love it. I have games like "Earthworm Jim Special Edition", "NHL '94", "Silpheed", "Android Assault", "Final Fight CD" and "Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side". I have yet to get "Sonic CD", "The Terminator", "Soulstar", "Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure", etc.
i was too young when all these things came out, back in the 80s and 90s, it was considered normal for a household to have 1 console, even convincing my parents to upgrade to an snes took me a miracle, all i could do is look at these things in the shops and wish i could have them all, the megadrive, the 32x, the mega cd, the 3do , the jaguar, the neo geo.....i bet it would be nice to be an adult back in those days and buy them all like i am doing at this day and age, but what is there to buy today ? an xbox ? a playstation ? a switch ? a gaming pc ? and almost all have copy/paste games, remember when the snes games were different from the sega ones ? or at least had pros and cons? these days all they do is get different by detail and resolution and most of the time i end up buying the same game on different platform just for a better experience....miss the 90s my man, they were awesome.
i remeber having the cheaper one that sits beside it, remember being blown away when i played that sewer game were they used like real footage of people in a game and thinking about how more future games would implement this and improve on it, man was i wrong lmao
I had one on day one. I was impressed at the time.
At the time the Sega CD had cred among my friends, though none of us had one. The hype made it seem like a big deal. The problem with it is that it was asking the consumer to buy an add-on that cost even more than a whole system. From a kid perspective it was already a though sell to get your parents to buy you even one videogame system. So you bugged them to buy you a Sega Genesis and then a year later ask them to get you a CD add-on that's even more expensive?! Yeah, right! And realistically if you could get your parents to agree to such a purchase it would actually be cheaper to get both and Genesis and SNES which would be a far better value than a Sega CD.
Great video. Well done, sir. Your videos are underrated in my opinion.
I love Sega CD. It is hardcore gaming in the early 90s.
Sega CD may have been maligned in 1993, but it is so sought after and awesome in 2020. I recently bought one again earlier this year (2020) and totally relive it. I even found a copy of Lunar Eternal Blue on March 1, 2020 for $95 at a used video game store and immediately bought it knowing it was $190 on EBay and Amazon . Talk about lucky.
16:17 well that's what the Everdrive Pro is here for, along with the ability to play you're converted videos too.
10:50 Doesn't the animation look more realistic in full motion video than actual compressed video? Or at least less messy?
Just bought Sonic CD on Steam sale. It's... really hard if you want the good ending.
Agree. You have to be really careful on when and where you choose to go to the past to change the future, since you have limited chances to do so and you have to look for good spots to go into the past since you can lose your time warp if you slow down.
Purpleboye_ Concentrate on getting the Time stones in the special stages, if you get them all consecutively, you'll have all seven by the 2nd act of the 4th zone, Quartz Quadrant, and won't need to bother with time travel after that. The first few special stages are easier as the flying UFOs go slower, but each stage has it's own unique pattern.
If you've unlocked all the stages for Time Attack play mode, try to get your combined time for all stages under 25 minutes as this unlocks Special Stage time Attack, which you can use to practice the special stages.
You see ironically the special stages are the hardest part, and I've just been trying to destroy all the roboticizers. Which is time consuming but at least doable. The controls and collision in the special stages are so bad that I could not get any time stones after the first one.
I'm sure you've seen this, th-cam.com/video/fkNA3-Nb3bM/w-d-xo.html
This is played on the original Sega CD which has worse frame rate and responsiveness (for the special stages) than modern remakes (especially Christian Whitehead versions). Save for that 5th stone in this video ( there is a quicker pattern than the one shown here th-cam.com/video/O0I2ntv753w/w-d-xo.html ), these are pretty efficient ways to get all of them. Good luck.
I've mentioned before on this channel that I did not have a Genesis or any of its add-ons when they were considered current gen. I did pick up a Genesis model 2 with the Sega CD and a few games from a pawn shop during the Dreamcast's life cycle. One of the games was Final Fight CD and MAN, let me tell you...that would've been the definitive way to play the game at home at the time! I'm a huge fan of brawlers and Final Fight is one of my favorites. Two player support, all 3 characters included (can you tell I only had it on the SNES before?), corny English voice acting and that glorious CD quality soundtrack! Is it wrong to say that's one of the best games for Sega CD? Looking forward to replaying it with my son on that Analogue Mega SG!
Great video, never knew the Sega CD was this good
Snatcher changed my life.
There really was nothing like it then. In quality or content.
Nice! I just got a Sega CD recently. My girlfriend gifted me Keio and Popful Mail😁
I have to replace the battery on the console in order to play Popful though.
Leave your system on for 8 hours and see if the battery is recharged.
If you do replace it, do NOT put a cr2032 in there. Find an ml2032. The cr isn't rechargeable, yet would be receiving charging while playing. I've seen them explode (as in leak all over the place).
@@yjzep9922 thanks. So you mean you've seen the cr2032s explode?
@@MrSerpico145 not like boom, but like cracked open and threw up all the corrosive crap all over the motherboard. Top be fair, the guy left the dreamcast on for 2 days, but while running, the systems run voltage to the battery to charge it. A battery that isn't set up to take a recharge will boil eventually.
@@yjzep9922 great! Good to know. What about LiR2032s? They seem to be the only ones I can find that are reasonably priced.
This unit cost $400 Canadian back in the day, and was launched literally when other CD based consoles like the 3D0 were born. It is too bad that the hardware was barely realized or advertised regarding the hardware improvements users. Also you are completely right: a proper scaling version of Outrun was possible and could have really illustrated what the system could really do. I also treasure my JVC X'Eye.
Totally agree here !
I boughta japanese Sega CD last year and I've found some must have games (Robo Aleste, Final Fight CD, Sonic CD, Keio Yugekitai and Bari Arms justify the buy) !
Glad to see some honest review of the system which tends to be glued by the FMV crap (stupid Sega of America marketting).
me encanta tu trabajo, mi única máquina de Sega fue una Dreamcast y me hizo muy feliz, thanks for making these videos and greetings from colombia 🇨🇴
My parents bought me the sega cd on Christmas of 1994. I loved it and still love it. Probably the system that gives me the most nostalgic feels
I had the JVC X eye growing up. I remember my dad gave it to me early for my birthday gift. He read the box and said it played genesis and sega cd games, but since it wasn't Sega hardware, he didn't think it would of worked hence why he gave it to me early. From what I gather not many have survived.
This was my favorite system, sonic cd spiderman and eternal champions still my favorite games to this day
Rise of the dragon was very similar to snatcher. Doesn’t get the credit it deserves. I truly think it influenced Cyberpunk 2077...
I loved my Sega CDx !! It played Cartridge & CD Games. It could also play music cd's!! Very portable too. My fav games: Road Avenger, Sol Feace, Dragons Lair, Time Gal
My cousins got one of the original Sega CDs around its release time, and even under the age of 10, I was blown away by the increased graphics, video, and sound. Final Fight looked just like the arcade. Sonic CD did things the Genesis games could never do. Silpheed had those amazing backgrounds and clear (for the time) voice work. My siblings and I pooled our money and bought a Sega and Sega CD around 96. By this point, it was rare to find a Sega CD game in stores, but I managed to snap up a few. Spider-Man was a blast, especially with its fully animated cutscenes. I even enjoyed Sewer Sharks. It was challenging, and it actually told a full story from start to finish. I'm sure it doesn't play great now.
Still, the Sega CD had a lot to offer. If they could have brought down the launch price, advertised the good games, and stuck with it through the Saturn launch, I think it could have really been something.