no matter how bad ass spartans are.. i like the fact that they are kind and gentle when it comes to civilians. that hand gesture to her gave me a smile.
@@Themrine2013 the Nazi made heart transplant possible during WW2. now days that is normal but the true experiment came from Germany during WW2 because they started that. dark af but useful no days
@@rennac3152 they dont NEED to, but nothing prevented 343 from doing the intro properly this time around. Its not as little a thing as you make it out to be.
@@zazi5305 actually, most loyalist main chapters care about civilians. Space wolves. Salamanders. Imperial fist. Ultramarines. Blood angels. Raven guard. White scars. All of these care. There's also successors like the lamenters.
@@MrSpartanspud I mean, it's been confirmed that she was rescued by Spartan-IIIs, so that means she could have been saved sometime between 2535 to 2552/2553 at the latest. Edit: I just realized the city in the cutscene is London, which would mean this is taking place during the Battle of Earth during Halo 2/Halo 3/Halo 3: ODST, so 2552/2553. So she had seven years to fast track to become a Spartan-IV commander/trainer. God the UNSC must have some insane fast tracks for promotion.
@@BunMangViet Yeah that's why I am saying about 6. It's 2559 the cutscene takes place. So 6/7 years. And there's Big Ben in the background so it probably has to be in 52/53. I mean, she wasn't even enlisted. And she's now the best of the best of the best. Just seems a bit forced. I just don't really feel the timeline allows for someone with her backstory to be in her position. A Spartan? Sure, maybe. Their commander? No. Plus I won't lie, she rubs me the wrong way in the same sort of way the Weapon does. The Voice Actor and lines are just trying too hard.
@@BunMangViet not caught up on the lore of the new spartans but couldnt she fast track to the spartan program because of her experience of war? i remember the 3s taking volunteers but cant remember if the gens after kept doing it or not
2:39 (INFINITE SPOILERS) what happened in Laconia was insane. An AI that allied with cortana betrayed 74 Spartan IV’s by blowing up the station that held their previous training facility. Killing every one of them.
@@shawne02 yeah. Anything posted that was positive about the halo tv series has died. I couldn't even get through the scenes posted on YT without any criticism. It's painful.
No spoilers but watching this back after finishing the Halo Infinite campaign and realizing what she meant by Laconia changed everything makes that just hit different, in a more emotional way I mean.
Was I the only one that rather cringed at that speech meant for some weakminded babies than actual super soldier warriors? It felt so "UH YOU GO GOOD GUY AND DON'T FORGET TO SMILE MR SUPER SOLDIER! ALWAYS NOD FIRST INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR MISSION!"
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 I thought the speech was good, not too harsh but not to soothing, just saying that you guys are our next hope, give it your best or we fail.
I love how they showed the raw size of a spartan in 1:50 by showing the scale of a normal human hand to a spartans and sheer height difference in 1:52.
@@625098evan it’s been canonically stated across several sources that the Spartan II’s, III’s, and IV’s were all augmented. Yes, it’s true that a portion of the IV’s are made up of marines, ODSTs, etc but they still received augmentations.
such a good point. but barely. warm fuzzy encouragement is not how soldiers are made. and its not how the Spartans were made in the past. on that note, do you think that actor was chosen for her acting? one can hope.
But I don't like how the Spartans are treated nicer than the flipping Air Force. You'd expect boot camp for Spartans to make the Marines' look like kindergartners.
I always view this cutscene as a dramatization of the actual battle of earth. She is looking at these memories not as just her old self, but as what she wants her and her recruits to become. What would have been more likely Spartan IIs or IIIs originally are depicted as spartan IVs in her memory and the enemies with the gear and weapons that she faces. Not because the memories are wrong, but it is her putting her recruits in the boots of those spartans that saved her that day. She wants her Spartan IVs to be more than the first groups of Spartan IVs whom were more party people, unstable and had traitors among them. She is essentially wanting to train the Spartan IVs under her to be the guardians of Humanity rather than the publicity agents the S-IV program started as
She was turning them into what Halsey had intedned the Spartans to be, symbols that no matter how dire a situation is, ANY foe or obstical can be overcome. It just comes down to having the will and drive to overcome it. Spartans may be the pennicle of humanity, but it's the drive of the normal humans that are inspired that cause humanity to achieve greatness and the impossible.
I love that they represent London during the Battle of Earth. Would love to see visuals of every important city on Earth, lore-wise. Mexico City or China. Or even other amazing places, I'm sure I'm falling short.
Finally! a Spartan program that doesn't make me feel like dying would be a better alternative. Proven fact: regardless of training someone will always fight harder and last longer when they have something worth fighting and living for, something I believe the Spartan 2 program or more specifically Halsey and Mendez overlooked drastically.
Reminds me of dialogue in the campaign. "You got someone special back home Chief?" "Family?" "No" "Then why do you keep doing this. Over and over and over." "It's all I know." (paraphrased)
@@anxiousearth680 It makes a real interesting dynamic between the old Spartans and new ones I think. Spartan II's were like brothers in arms. They fought like hell because they were conditioned to fight until the very last. Noble squadron was proof of the potential of the spartan program. Fighting until the very last. And yet it's kind of cruel in a way, because of the fact that being a Spartan II isolates you from the normal civillian population. Whatever potential life you would have led before you became a Spartan, completely destroyed. Having little to no casual social interactions outside of that of the military. One must wonder how they're able to keep themselves going.
Spartan II's were trained as a last ditch measure in a situation in which the fulcrum of the UNSC-Insurrectionist War was tipping heavily in the direction of the Innies. Thus, Halsey and a few select UNSC personnel were selected to develop the SPARTAN II cadre. And they were chosen from a young age because the SPARTAN I's was a series of failures, including the advanced age of the volunteers (Master Sergeant Avery Johnson among them). By selecting children, NavSpecWar (under ONI control and coordination), decided to utilize children, in an effort to better condition, indoctrinate, and train for warfare at an early age. It worked. The issue is that due to the various isolated and very extreme circumstances that John and the other S-II's had gone through, it was very difficult for them to relate at any level to other personnel or civilians, than at the military level. They could only be personal with each other, and even then, it was fleeting. The S-III program was meant to make the rudimentary successes of the S-II program into a more mass production designed system, and instead of kidnapping children from homes and families, they would take the children from orphanages on Human occupied worlds that were taking in refugees. In so doing, no family connections, no necessary guilt behind the taking of these children, and more importantly easier to replace thanks to the manpower granted (morbidly) by the ever increasing attrition rate of the Human-Covenant War. Yet, even they could not relate to humans as effectively as we see in S-IV's. And the greater reason being that the S-III program was held in even greater secret, with even their own classified planet (Onyx) to operate, train, and subsequently deploy from. Even more so the S-III's (if we don't count Halo: Reach) were oft sent on suicide missions. So even then there was no chance for human-Spartan interactions to gauge the possible mental disabilities and instability wrought by bio-genetic engineering and modification, inducing dissociative/anti-social patterns/behavior. The S-IV is probably the closest one can get to Spartans having a semblance of their humanity, despite the immense training and augmentation they go through. Yet, even with all this, Master Chief and those of Blue Squad who are still alive, have been fighting the war since it began in 2525. In which they were only 16 or so. Before that, some random incursions against Insurrectionist HVT's and strong points to assist ODST/Marine operations, but for most of their operational span, they had been fighting a losing war trying to save humanity from what seemed damn near inevitable. The extinction of the Human Race. Most of the rest of these Spartans did not have that impending doom and the overwhelming weight of being the ONLY thing capable of fighting, and defeating, the Covenant in ground engagements without overwhelming odds. And more importantly, bearing the full brunt of being UNSC propaganda as a beacon of hope in war Humanity was losing, terribly.
The S-IIs were kidnapped. S-IIIs were war orphans S-IVs (these ones) were Soldiers/Marines who were chosen to join. Buck was the only person to turn the offer down.
For the two people who are very confused here, Buck did actually turn down the offer. He initially desired to stick with his team of ODSTs, but eventually he accepted it after the death of the Rookie. So yes, he eventually became a Spartan-IV, but initially he refused to become when.
Spartans back then : Child soldiers, created only to battle covenat forces and save humanity. Spartans Now: You can be Spartan! He can be Spartan! She can be spartan! EVERYONE CAN BE SPARTAN!
Just say you hate Spartans IVs lol. The SIIs were created to crush insurrection rebellion, other humans. The Covenant just happened to show up at that time. And only the most elite and decorated veteran marines and ODSTs are chosen to be SIVs.
When she said "when I get back we'll be busy", all that makes me want is a PvE multiplayer campaign. Just firefight with a growing story. Like Spartan Ops but better. I've always thought that Halo did better campaign than multiplayer (not to say it's bad), and honestly I don't think this is a bad idea. Another idea is adding back Warzone Firefight from H5, add Req Packs if you want, but not purchasable and only earned through gameplay and challenges (Warzone exclusive challenges)
Yeah the one thing that really drew me into the Halo MP's was playing a bunch of Co-op online and then to take a break and not rush we would chill with some multiplayer. With infinite i feel like i wont do that until actuall Co-op gets into the game. :/
I feel like Destiny's strikes would work in Halo or at least something in that style. Replayable semi-linear missions that are story driven but also just fun to play with their own unique mechanics while keeping the sandbox of Halo in a four player activity. Maybe adding some randomized objectives, Marine reinforcements, weapon pick ups or enemy encounters to make it less repetitive. That'd be fun as hell.
I don't get what she means by "humanity won't save itself" when it took a team of humans to train the Spartans ( who are also humans) in the first place. They may be enhanced but they are still human beneath the fancy armor.
@@specturr Maybe she's saying what is required for spartans is above and beyond and might cost them everything. They are required to perform super humanely?
I believe they are more like the result of transhumanism, in essence they are human, but they are an evolution of the human species far beyond their current abilities by the use of science/technology and other processes (psychology, etc)
So I was right, those Spartans that the showed up in London was in fact Spartan IIIs in Mark-V[B] armors. And other people say those were Spartan IVs. Well I say HA.
@@KingCosmo7 that maybe be true, but I kinda doubt that since from what I was able to look up and know, most of Spartan-IIs that were alive in 2552, still wears their MJOLNIR Mark-IV armor with the exception of course being the Master Chief. Plus there were Spartan-IIIs that were pulled from their companies and put in special teams and equipment such as Mark-V[B] armor with Noble Team being one of the examples. So it’s possible that the Spartans that was in London could be surviving members of Alpha and Beta Companies that were reassigned from their companies before Operations Prometheus and Torpedo respectively, and were then put special operations teams similar to Noble Team.
@@kevintran5901 It COULD be noble 6 I suppose. I didn't really look at their armor too much. But any spartan II's that survived to 2552 (and weren't lost in space) were issued Mark V armor.
I miss when Spartans were kidnapped children or orphans from covenant glassings. Spartan program lost it's edge in lore and it just massively took the impact out of them.
How the Spartan IV's were created is definitely more humane than what the Spartan II's went through. Being kidnapped by ONI commando's then only to be replaced by a flash clone that died within a couple years then inhumane surgeries and treatments. Yeah, better
No, the Spartans IV are active combat veterans of any branch as well as young soldiers who show potential to be Humanity's next guardians. So in others words ODST/special soldiers and Young but talented soldiers can be Spartans IV not anyone
imagine the intense testing and training to become a Navy Seal or British SAS operator but it's 2x more difficult,. thats how difficult it is to become a Spartan. Even becoming an ODST would be insanely difficult, like becoming an Army Ranger, Green Beret or other special forces.
@@nickhowatson4745 well if it's that stressful it can't be too hard if a woman can do it 🤣 besides I think with the spartan 4s all they do is make sure you have combat experience combined with enhancements from injections, all the way to adding a exoskeleton armor suit to make you stronger.
we know since long ago drop pods have trusters to significantly slow down the pod otherwise the ODST inside won't survive aside from the weight breaking the concrete streets that also acts and a cushion, also if the first thing you see is a civilian you can blast away other wise she would likely get kill knowing brutes don't go down in one shot so it makes sense to slow down and protect her for a few seconds until the rest of the spartans arrived
@@anxiousearth680 yeah agreed, you really can't build up dramatic tension or release it when everything is set to what real life Spartans (if there ever will be) would act.
The best way if they're trying to get to the point while maintaining the essence of a Spartan would be for the Spartan to immediately exit the pod, immediately assess the situation and act within a split second by grabbing the civilian, putting them being the Spartan to shield them from fire and then engage the brutes.
The only line she said that sounded a bit off was humanity wouldn’t save it self Spartan which I get it was meant to be we have to save humanity but like we are also humans so basically humanity will save it self
We need a pve mode in multiplayer. Would be so sick to have like 16 spartans all fighting waves of covenant. Something like warzone or firefight (just more refined/modernized)
After this intro, a part of me wishes the Halo Infinite campaign was played through the eyes of this Spartan IV that we run Academy and Multiplayer with. Or do a 50/50 split: 50% Chief on the Ring. 50% this Spartan called on to head to the ring after the Infinity, Chief, and the others go missing.
This is so cringe. Spartans aren’t created through applying for tryouts. They’re picked. While they’re still toddlers or young kids. I felt like I was watching a Disney movie just now lol. Like I was waiting for her to say “here, we have fun. It’s a safe space and anyone can do it if you put your mind to it.”
As a black man I really hate the diversity quotas that companies try to satisfy when continuing IPs. All I ask is if your gonna use black people in a movie or blackwash already existing franchises for the sake of satisfying this mythological "white guilt", please us or create a photogenic black person. I mean, there are actually attractive black people out there. I know this, I seen them in 4K. To this day in games, the only real objectively hot black characters I have seen are Shiva Alamar(RE5) and the J.D. Morrison(DMC5). The irony is that both of these characters come from Capcom, a Japanese company.
What would be awesome is if we got a side story in like season 2 or 3 where you are your spartan fighting on the Halo ring after the chief cleared it. Kinda like Halo ODST where it isn't the chief but, it all ties together
Damn are they forever badass. The old generations always are most coolest especially the 2-3, pure fucking Sigmas. The 4s are still pretty badass but they don't hit the same
I like the idea that the IV's are basically civilians going in to take up the mantle of heroes though. It makes sense that Chief and alot of other Spartans would ignite that kind of fire in people.
@@zjuraeventide8949 They are not civilians lol spartan 4s only take odsts and combat hardened marines basically taking the best unaugmented soliders and making them better i have no idea where this sentiment comes from that spartan 4s come from random smucks on the street
... What? Just some nobody who gets plot armoured by spartans literally falling out of the sky last second to play rescue, then handwaving through everything between them becoming spartan themselves? That's what you want for your standard?
@@Poolehful The short shows us a very quick transition of a soldier to a spartan. This, in my opinion, is here to give us a synopsis of the values Spartans learn in their training. Also, Spartans are just a form of grunt. They are just super soldier infantry. So it makes sense that they would be boots on the ground like grunts. However, it is not the mission that truly sets Spartans apart from other troops. It’s the extremes they go to for their missions, not just their enhanced strength.
My only issue with this, is the girls/womans/Spartan Commanders voice doesn't have any presence, charisma, just sounds like someone reading the lines without any effort given.
In Bad Blood Buck had warned Jun that Leonidas was working for Cortana. So I believe that Jun knew and made plans to have everyone evacuate without Cortana knowing, that’s why Agrena said “Laconia changed everything, we had to regroup”, also in the campaign Weapon asked Chief if all the Spartans were killed and he gave her a very Quick and vague “Yes” showing that Chief still didn’t fully trust her to tell her evacuation plans had been made. Just a thought 💭 right….
I'd like to imagine that Spartan II's and III's are Icons to Spartan IV's Two Generations of Spartans that survived against impossible odds and died ether blowing up Halo Rings with a fuck ton of covenant going down with them or dying saving the Innocent from the onslaught of the Covenant. A Role model that Spartan IV's want to live up to. And if word gets out that Master Chief is still alive and didn't die along with the Infinity then I can't imagine how much joy will come out of it.
I know that "iTs jUsT A VieDO gAME" but it always really bothers me in military shooters when the characters take there firing hand off there weapons to do stuff. In real life , especially a combat zone, your firing hand never leaves the ready position and you use your non firing hand to do stuff with. You also never ever just lay your rifle down in a combat zone. Small details.
have spent enough time in combat zones to know people do both all the time. I wouldnt trust someone so wound they were always hands on, humans arent built for being wound that long, people like that are why friendly fire is so ridiculously common.
You're often told never to put your hands in your pockets, but we did it all the time in my unit -- the heathens that we were. People can take little moments to just be normal without it detracting from their performance on patrol/in combat.
finally we see a story of someone who see a spartan while they a civilian and then timeskip back to them as the role of a spartan. Its always the odsts who do that
When she was no Spartan, the other male Spartans were 50% bigger than her. And when she was a Spartan, she was 1 head bigger than the other male Spartan recruits. wtf?
I am curious of the timeline for when she's a civilian into her being a Spartan 4. Assuming those 4s that saved her did so when they went active on the first possible day of 7th January 2553. And it's around Halo Infinite's start date in that cutscene so it's near the end of 2559. So we will say 7 years. She went from civilian to Spartan 4 commander in 7 years? What's the career trajectory there. It's a similar issue I had with Palmer. She's 30 years old but she's the commanding officer of the special forces on humanities biggest warship as of the start of Halo 4. They're making all the Spartans a bit too young. There should be some more who seem like hardened soldiers. Even if you bumped Palmer up to 40 years old it would be easier to buy into. They're taken from the best of the best. But aside from Osiris (despite their flaws) I don't feel that's really been portrayed.
@@john90392 They're in London (so after the Covenant attacked Earth) and some of them are wearing Spartan 4 armour. So realistically it's 2553. At a push we can say it's a beta test of IIIs using the armour made for IVs. But that's still going to be putting us at the end of 2552.
@@Slazmoservicing4209 Yeah the cheerful bit is what is bugging me with her. She's too cheesy. "What did I tell you about making jokes." (Big cheesy smile) "Not to stop." "Hahaz exactly." (Big cheesy smile.) "By the way, all the Spartans are dead and the Infinite is destroyed. Lol." (Big cheesy smile.) She's needing a section 8.
So wounded they need to be supported in fact. They also literally just dropped so presumably that's the first engagement of the start of their mission... 😬
you want to know how much SIIs went out shitty way in the books? Which are cannon and were made during Bungie era? 4 died on reach only in drop. More during fight. There was a SII killed during high risk mission on Covenant ship. She died on beginning of it. You don't know how much SIIs died, were wounded casually? They weren't invincible. Hell, that spartan who died on covenant ship had Mjolnir with shields and she died during SINGLE engangment but where marines or ODSTs would for sure fail
The only thing I don't understand is why they've already got Mjolnir if they're not fully trained yet, I'm going to assume that it's just additional training and practicing their skills since IVs needed to Earn their armor instead of getting Auged then given the armor to train in.
You know in a way we're technically like the old Spartans from like Halo 1 or Halo reach if you think about it while our new generation of kids that grow up and they get to play this version of Halo they'll be the next generation Spartans that will lead the way hopefully it'll be a little bit better if you get me
We kinda are the Spartan 2's, 3's, and ODST's. Then fortnite transfers are mistakes, I mean 4's. But seriously the game spacing with the different generations of spartans is perfect. We actually can consider ourselves the generation of spartans from the game we started in (When in game). Or ODST's for some. We're the ones that understand the different uses of each weapon intimately instead of just trying to spam plasma at an enemy with no shields.
I wish there were two campaigns one with master chief and one like halo reach I hate that u don’t get to use your own spartan like reach did I hope one day they make another halo game like reach
Just once I’d love to see a IV attain the reputation of a II, or a III. Some ballsy moves or some unconventional gambles that pay off in a pinch - real grand concepts like re entering atmosphere. Right now it’s like they’re ODSTs with shields.
I think Infinite tried to show that IV’s, while not as lethal as II’s, are still Spartans. Just look at the campaign while you’re finding the Spartans. One took out like 16 banished with a screwdriver. Even chief says Spartans don’t go quietly when referring to a IV. I think people are really sleeping on IV’s if they still think they’re just ODST’s with fancy armor
@@navysailor4117 My issue is precisely that, conceptually, every Spartan IV is a John Wick that takes out 16 banished with a screwdriver and then dies. Good warriors, with boot-camp discipline and average smarts. They fight, kill, run missions til they get overrun and die. I don’t think they’re weak, they’re just conventional teams treated as expendable story markers. it’d be great to see someone else come close to being the tactical nuke level of spartan, like a hyper lethal vector. Something or someone to show that IVs are reliable in quality, with some of the best, rather than a force to be deployed in quantity. The idea that a few heroes can change the fate of a battle or a war with their own actions, even if it’s a tragedy, it’s great storytelling that fosters respect. And to be fair I think characters like Palmer and Locke have that potential, I just have gripes with how they’re treated at large.
@@RadicalRain Locke could’ve been that type of character honestly, but they destroyed him. Buck, if they’d work with him, could also have that potential. I’d also like to see a IV get some spotlight time, so we could have potentially another spinoff like Reach did with noble 6.
@@RadicalRain keeping in mind that there are only 14 active spartan 2s left. I don't think having the IVs go out guns blazing is any different to how most of the IIs went. Every Spartan II that has been shown going down in combat left a wake of dead covenant behind them or just the vaporized remains in Kurt and Sam's cases. Infinite will hopefully give 343s writers the open platform to expand the IVs story more. Both Buck and Locke have the character potential to be strong secondary characters like Johnson, but no spartan other then Noble 6 has ever been labeled hyper lethal like John. The thing's we do has Chief are acts that would normally take an entire spartan fireteam.
Too many Spartans, 343 treats Spartans like if they were ODSTs they put dozens every game. What happened to Palmer? The fire teams from Spartans ops? Then Team osiris ? Now we got another Spartan leader that black girl?
"I thought you'd be taller" 8k cutscene: th-cam.com/video/bv8eXUU3XX4/w-d-xo.html
Halo infinite Spartan suit bodies 🛡 🫡 💪🏼 LIKE
no matter how bad ass spartans are.. i like the fact that they are kind and gentle when it comes to civilians. that hand gesture to her gave me a smile.
Damn right
that hand is HUGE lol a fking giant
Which is crazy given their original purpose is dark af.
@@lello2031 many of the things we take for granted today that makes our life easier was meant to win the cold war.
@@Themrine2013 the Nazi made heart transplant possible during WW2. now days that is normal but the true experiment came from Germany during WW2 because they started that. dark af but useful no days
That nod when the drop pod opened is just legendary and i'm so glad a group of spartans suvived Cortana
And the Banished. A ton of Spartans were on the Infinity when they took it out, and a ton were killed on Zeta Halo.
Don't forget the Leonidas station
@@Aug_099 Spoilers:
But in the books many of them survived including Jun.
@@culterwaleddy Are you saying before or after the created uprising?
@@kristianwhite1061 After. In the book, Halo bad blood. The events are covered in great detail.
They made cutscenes and story for a tutorial, that’s how you get the next generation of halo fans ready for the front lines.
Passing the controller to next future spartans indeed
Except they got the armor and everything else wrong, but yeah
@@Brandelwyn eh, new guys don’t need to geek out over the little things yet. Spartan go bang, aliens explode. Call it day with a Christmas skin on top
@@rennac3152 they dont NEED to, but nothing prevented 343 from doing the intro properly this time around. Its not as little a thing as you make it out to be.
@@Brandelwyn depends on your point of view then, I don’t see it as any urgent issue to address. It seems 343 would agree with me
I’ve been on a depressing warhammer 40k binge and that nod that spartan gave right out of the drop pod is what I needed
Space Marines that actually care? Me too, me too.
Hydra Dominatus, always another Link! For the Emperor!
@@zazi5305 salamanders bro
@@bluiedaniel2739 Two Chapters of a gazillion does not make an Imperium, though
@@zazi5305 actually, most loyalist main chapters care about civilians.
Space wolves.
Salamanders.
Imperial fist.
Ultramarines.
Blood angels.
Raven guard.
White scars.
All of these care.
There's also successors like the lamenters.
@@bluiedaniel2739 salamanders are fuckin awesome!
Did anyone else notice how big the Spartan’s hand was compared to her when he reached out to her? It’s crazy how big these guys are.
They were spartan II and she is a spartan IV which are actually smaller Spartans and not picked as children and have so much test done to them .
ranges from 6'5+
the avarage armored spartans II were around 7'2 and proportional. So yeah, they are pretty big.
I thought it was obvious that they’re Shaq’s size
@AckeyHacker He dunks on everyone
I can't wait for their reactions when they find out chief is alive he's not just a hero he's a symbol to all Spartans
Indeed !
He already is though. That's why UNSC brass got mad at Del Rio when he left the Chief and Cortana on Requiem.
spartans might give humanity hope, but chief gives spartans hope. I love how much they look up to him, especially the IVs
Lets give some love for Noble team too.
@@TheOneTrueZweiZwei they deaaaaaaaaaad tho
Bruh I just love how she was saved by Spartans and then became a spartan trainer or w.e gotta love how full circle that was
The thing is, she went from a civilian to a special forces trainer in 6 years at most. It's a bit of a stretch.
@@MrSpartanspud I mean, it's been confirmed that she was rescued by Spartan-IIIs, so that means she could have been saved sometime between 2535 to 2552/2553 at the latest.
Edit: I just realized the city in the cutscene is London, which would mean this is taking place during the Battle of Earth during Halo 2/Halo 3/Halo 3: ODST, so 2552/2553. So she had seven years to fast track to become a Spartan-IV commander/trainer. God the UNSC must have some insane fast tracks for promotion.
@@BunMangViet Yeah that's why I am saying about 6. It's 2559 the cutscene takes place. So 6/7 years. And there's Big Ben in the background so it probably has to be in 52/53.
I mean, she wasn't even enlisted. And she's now the best of the best of the best. Just seems a bit forced. I just don't really feel the timeline allows for someone with her backstory to be in her position. A Spartan? Sure, maybe. Their commander? No.
Plus I won't lie, she rubs me the wrong way in the same sort of way the Weapon does. The Voice Actor and lines are just trying too hard.
IV are glorified ODST in fancy armour. Only "real" Spartans are II and III
@@BunMangViet not caught up on the lore of the new spartans but couldnt she fast track to the spartan program because of her experience of war? i remember the 3s taking volunteers but cant remember if the gens after kept doing it or not
2:39 (INFINITE SPOILERS) what happened in Laconia was insane. An AI that allied with cortana betrayed 74 Spartan IV’s by blowing up the station that held their previous training facility. Killing every one of them.
Damn that's a tragedy
Just thinking that was us surviving Laconia.
not sure which is worse, that or UNSC sacrificing 2 groups of 300 spartans on two separate occasions on suicide missions
@@chocolat-kun8689 i don’t think anyone survived laconia.
Like operation Prometheus or Torpedo, but these guys didn't even get to fight
Dude an animated show about the next gen spartans like this would be top tier if done like this
Hope it’s not as bad as this part of Halo Infinite, but it will be: the grift must flow.
@@risto4216 Its gonna be its own timeline though :(
I think what you're looking for is called Power Rangers.
@@Kenny-xx7je its atrocious
@@shawne02 yeah. Anything posted that was positive about the halo tv series has died. I couldn't even get through the scenes posted on YT without any criticism. It's painful.
No spoilers but watching this back after finishing the Halo Infinite campaign and realizing what she meant by Laconia changed everything makes that just hit different, in a more emotional way I mean.
Was I the only one that rather cringed at that speech meant for some weakminded babies than actual super soldier warriors? It felt so "UH YOU GO GOOD GUY AND DON'T FORGET TO SMILE MR SUPER SOLDIER! ALWAYS NOD FIRST INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR MISSION!"
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 I thought the speech was good, not too harsh but not to soothing, just saying that you guys are our next hope, give it your best or we fail.
How did you get that game, did you buy it
@@insanbiasa7738 its free
@@NoNameTaken117 where did you get it, did you go to any website
wow she's actually ,more likeable then palmer nice
Ehhhh
Well, I hoped she's has her own spin-off game.
Palmer was so bad oh g-d. The scene in 4 when you see her size compared to chief and she's a fucking miniature compared to him.
Not by much if at all
The problem with Palmer was they made her a cocky asshole.
I love how they showed the raw size of a spartan in 1:50 by showing the scale of a normal human hand to a spartans and sheer height difference in 1:52.
only the original Spartans were inhanced. later Spartans were just regular humans that had done particularly well in their branch of the military.
@@625098evan it’s been canonically stated across several sources that the Spartan II’s, III’s, and IV’s were all augmented. Yes, it’s true that a portion of the IV’s are made up of marines, ODSTs, etc but they still received augmentations.
Better than the US Army recruiting video.
Lol
Us army ad : i have two moms
@@sanambirk9819 Humanity sleeps in peace knowing emma has two moms
such a good point. but barely. warm fuzzy encouragement is not how soldiers are made. and its not how the Spartans were made in the past. on that note, do you think that actor was chosen for her acting? one can hope.
But I don't like how the Spartans are treated nicer than the flipping Air Force. You'd expect boot camp for Spartans to make the Marines' look like kindergartners.
I always view this cutscene as a dramatization of the actual battle of earth. She is looking at these memories not as just her old self, but as what she wants her and her recruits to become. What would have been more likely Spartan IIs or IIIs originally are depicted as spartan IVs in her memory and the enemies with the gear and weapons that she faces. Not because the memories are wrong, but it is her putting her recruits in the boots of those spartans that saved her that day. She wants her Spartan IVs to be more than the first groups of Spartan IVs whom were more party people, unstable and had traitors among them. She is essentially wanting to train the Spartan IVs under her to be the guardians of Humanity rather than the publicity agents the S-IV program started as
She was turning them into what Halsey had intedned the Spartans to be, symbols that no matter how dire a situation is, ANY foe or obstical can be overcome. It just comes down to having the will and drive to overcome it. Spartans may be the pennicle of humanity, but it's the drive of the normal humans that are inspired that cause humanity to achieve greatness and the impossible.
"Perhaps some are closer than others." - Halsey
@@Baldeagle-tw2nvSo why is she so positive in every interaction. “Oh you lost this one, you’ll get em next time though”
I love that they represent London during the Battle of Earth. Would love to see visuals of every important city on Earth, lore-wise. Mexico City or China. Or even other amazing places, I'm sure I'm falling short.
Finally! a Spartan program that doesn't make me feel like dying would be a better alternative. Proven fact: regardless of training someone will always fight harder and last longer when they have something worth fighting and living for, something I believe the Spartan 2 program or more specifically Halsey and Mendez overlooked drastically.
Reminds me of dialogue in the campaign.
"You got someone special back home Chief?"
"Family?"
"No"
"Then why do you keep doing this. Over and over and over."
"It's all I know."
(paraphrased)
@@anxiousearth680 It makes a real interesting dynamic between the old Spartans and new ones I think. Spartan II's were like brothers in arms. They fought like hell because they were conditioned to fight until the very last. Noble squadron was proof of the potential of the spartan program. Fighting until the very last. And yet it's kind of cruel in a way, because of the fact that being a Spartan II isolates you from the normal civillian population. Whatever potential life you would have led before you became a Spartan, completely destroyed. Having little to no casual social interactions outside of that of the military. One must wonder how they're able to keep themselves going.
@@zjuraeventide8949 noble squadron were spartan 3s
@@daniel57327 yes all except Jorge who is a II
Spartan II's were trained as a last ditch measure in a situation in which the fulcrum of the UNSC-Insurrectionist War was tipping heavily in the direction of the Innies.
Thus, Halsey and a few select UNSC personnel were selected to develop the SPARTAN II cadre. And they were chosen from a young age because the SPARTAN I's was a series of failures, including the advanced age of the volunteers (Master Sergeant Avery Johnson among them). By selecting children, NavSpecWar (under ONI control and coordination), decided to utilize children, in an effort to better condition, indoctrinate, and train for warfare at an early age. It worked.
The issue is that due to the various isolated and very extreme circumstances that John and the other S-II's had gone through, it was very difficult for them to relate at any level to other personnel or civilians, than at the military level. They could only be personal with each other, and even then, it was fleeting.
The S-III program was meant to make the rudimentary successes of the S-II program into a more mass production designed system, and instead of kidnapping children from homes and families, they would take the children from orphanages on Human occupied worlds that were taking in refugees. In so doing, no family connections, no necessary guilt behind the taking of these children, and more importantly easier to replace thanks to the manpower granted (morbidly) by the ever increasing attrition rate of the Human-Covenant War. Yet, even they could not relate to humans as effectively as we see in S-IV's.
And the greater reason being that the S-III program was held in even greater secret, with even their own classified planet (Onyx) to operate, train, and subsequently deploy from. Even more so the S-III's (if we don't count Halo: Reach) were oft sent on suicide missions. So even then there was no chance for human-Spartan interactions to gauge the possible mental disabilities and instability wrought by bio-genetic engineering and modification, inducing dissociative/anti-social patterns/behavior.
The S-IV is probably the closest one can get to Spartans having a semblance of their humanity, despite the immense training and augmentation they go through.
Yet, even with all this, Master Chief and those of Blue Squad who are still alive, have been fighting the war since it began in 2525. In which they were only 16 or so. Before that, some random incursions against Insurrectionist HVT's and strong points to assist ODST/Marine operations, but for most of their operational span, they had been fighting a losing war trying to save humanity from what seemed damn near inevitable.
The extinction of the Human Race. Most of the rest of these Spartans did not have that impending doom and the overwhelming weight of being the ONLY thing capable of fighting, and defeating, the Covenant in ground engagements without overwhelming odds. And more importantly, bearing the full brunt of being UNSC propaganda as a beacon of hope in war Humanity was losing, terribly.
Remember, Spartans started as kidnapped child soldiers based on eugenics.
Kind of a mood killer.
The S-IIs were kidnapped.
S-IIIs were war orphans
S-IVs (these ones) were Soldiers/Marines who were chosen to join. Buck was the only person to turn the offer down.
@@harrymorris2361 wait wasnt buck a s4 in halo guardians?
@@harrymorris2361 Buck is a Spartan clown. Lmao
@Hibillymayshere
Yes, he BECAME an S-IV, but that was only after the Rookie was killed, of the initial S-IV candidates he was the only one who refused
For the two people who are very confused here, Buck did actually turn down the offer. He initially desired to stick with his team of ODSTs, but eventually he accepted it after the death of the Rookie. So yes, he eventually became a Spartan-IV, but initially he refused to become when.
Spartans back then : Child soldiers, created only to battle covenat forces and save humanity.
Spartans Now: You can be Spartan! He can be Spartan! She can be spartan! EVERYONE CAN BE SPARTAN!
Just say you hate Spartans IVs lol.
The SIIs were created to crush insurrection rebellion, other humans. The Covenant just happened to show up at that time. And only the most elite and decorated veteran marines and ODSTs are chosen to be SIVs.
@@TheBeastInBlack I dislike 4s yes
Yeah the newer versions were like anyone could be one. It was rare , tough to be one. And now anyone can be one.
Well I mean the spartan II are way stronger than the spartan IV’s so it’s not like anyone can be on the same level as a spartan II
the mark 4 armour is practically iron man suite
When she said "when I get back we'll be busy", all that makes me want is a PvE multiplayer campaign. Just firefight with a growing story. Like Spartan Ops but better. I've always thought that Halo did better campaign than multiplayer (not to say it's bad), and honestly I don't think this is a bad idea.
Another idea is adding back Warzone Firefight from H5, add Req Packs if you want, but not purchasable and only earned through gameplay and challenges (Warzone exclusive challenges)
Yeah the one thing that really drew me into the Halo MP's was playing a bunch of Co-op online and then to take a break and not rush we would chill with some multiplayer.
With infinite i feel like i wont do that until actuall Co-op gets into the game. :/
I feel like Destiny's strikes would work in Halo or at least something in that style. Replayable semi-linear missions that are story driven but also just fun to play with their own unique mechanics while keeping the sandbox of Halo in a four player activity. Maybe adding some randomized objectives, Marine reinforcements, weapon pick ups or enemy encounters to make it less repetitive. That'd be fun as hell.
That piano score at 1:46 my god
A recreation Of A part from "Three Gates" :)
Well.... spartans being human wouldn't that mean humanity will save itself?
What do you mean by that? Since Halo 4 the newer generation spartans have been volunteers
I don't get what she means by "humanity won't save itself" when it took a team of humans to train the Spartans ( who are also humans) in the first place. They may be enhanced but they are still human beneath the fancy armor.
"You say that like soldiers and humanity are two different things.."
@@specturr Maybe she's saying what is required for spartans is above and beyond and might cost them everything. They are required to perform super humanely?
I believe they are more like the result of transhumanism, in essence they are human, but they are an evolution of the human species far beyond their current abilities by the use of science/technology and other processes (psychology, etc)
I’ll always love halo cinematics
So I was right, those Spartans that the showed up in London was in fact Spartan IIIs in Mark-V[B] armors. And other people say those were Spartan IVs. Well I say HA.
Kudos to you
I was wondering. If they are 3s. Then it makes sense why Brutes would be in London. As it’s still during the covenant war
Problem is that Spartan III's were rarely ever given mjulnir armor. Maybe they COULD be spartan II's
@@KingCosmo7 that maybe be true, but I kinda doubt that since from what I was able to look up and know, most of Spartan-IIs that were alive in 2552, still wears their MJOLNIR Mark-IV armor with the exception of course being the Master Chief. Plus there were Spartan-IIIs that were pulled from their companies and put in special teams and equipment such as Mark-V[B] armor with Noble Team being one of the examples. So it’s possible that the Spartans that was in London could be surviving members of Alpha and Beta Companies that were reassigned from their companies before Operations Prometheus and Torpedo respectively, and were then put special operations teams similar to Noble Team.
@@kevintran5901 It COULD be noble 6 I suppose. I didn't really look at their armor too much. But any spartan II's that survived to 2552 (and weren't lost in space) were issued Mark V armor.
I miss when Spartans were kidnapped children or orphans from covenant glassings. Spartan program lost it's edge in lore and it just massively took the impact out of them.
I’m glad Cortana blew it up.
Ah this lore breaking cutscene
How the Spartan IV's were created is definitely more humane than what the Spartan II's went through. Being kidnapped by ONI commando's then only to be replaced by a flash clone that died within a couple years then inhumane surgeries and treatments. Yeah, better
S3’s were even worse
The results tho. I mean Spartan 2's are legendary
@@froyerthedestroyer6756 that’s the dichotomy, do we save humanity….. at the cost of our own?
So better in the "they didn't have the same burden to carry and could afford to be more humane" better.
Lets not forget the original purpose for Spartan II's being to discretely wipe out a rebel faction.
thx for this video i was able to watch this cutsence without any lags and freezes
This hits differently now after playing the campaign
They make anyone a Spartan now huh
No, the Spartans IV are active combat veterans of any branch as well as young soldiers who show potential to be Humanity's next guardians. So in others words ODST/special soldiers and Young but talented soldiers can be Spartans IV not anyone
@@rodolfosanchez3397 then explain why the instructor was just a normal civilian running for her life ? She doesn't seem experienced at all
imagine the intense testing and training to become a Navy Seal or British SAS operator but it's 2x more difficult,. thats how difficult it is to become a Spartan. Even becoming an ODST would be insanely difficult, like becoming an Army Ranger, Green Beret or other special forces.
@@nickhowatson4745 well if it's that stressful it can't be too hard if a woman can do it 🤣 besides I think with the spartan 4s all they do is make sure you have combat experience combined with enhancements from injections, all the way to adding a exoskeleton armor suit to make you stronger.
All it is is the shield. Just give people the cheap broken shield and combat affecting the skyrockets
How the drop pod impact force didn't blast her away is... Weird, but then the spartan walks out like it's not an active combat zone..
This....
we know since long ago drop pods have trusters to significantly slow down the pod otherwise the ODST inside won't survive aside from the weight breaking the concrete streets that also acts and a cushion, also if the first thing you see is a civilian you can blast away other wise she would likely get kill knowing brutes don't go down in one shot so it makes sense to slow down and protect her for a few seconds until the rest of the spartans arrived
It's a dramatised short. These usually have a lot of shortcuts to get to the point quicker. Time is precious realstate.
@@anxiousearth680 yeah agreed, you really can't build up dramatic tension or release it when everything is set to what real life Spartans (if there ever will be) would act.
The best way if they're trying to get to the point while maintaining the essence of a Spartan would be for the Spartan to immediately exit the pod, immediately assess the situation and act within a split second by grabbing the civilian, putting them being the Spartan to shield them from fire and then engage the brutes.
1:51 Bruh her hand is so small compared to the Spartans
1:52 Just by them walking I can feel the dominance
This cutscene feels weightless. Has it even been explained why the Covenant or Banished or whatever were in London?
343s pathetic attempt of "Tell, Don't Show".
3:16 Me: "Ma'am I've been doin this since Reach I'm more than ready!"
The only line she said that sounded a bit off was humanity wouldn’t save it self Spartan which I get it was meant to be we have to save humanity but like we are also humans so basically humanity will save it self
*very* underrated comment
Yeah, I said the same thing! I get the meaning behind it, but it could have been phased better.
I kinda find it hilarious how that brute totally saw her, and looked away.
We need a pve mode in multiplayer. Would be so sick to have like 16 spartans all fighting waves of covenant. Something like warzone or firefight (just more refined/modernized)
I didn't know Big Ben Clock Tower survived
We need more of this Spartan Trainer, I want to know if she actually comes back
Omg i love your pfp it was a great breakin ben album
@@terryescajeda7881 thx 😊
I want to know if the Spartans she trains survive. if so, warm fuzzy encouragement should be standard training from now on.
1:28 Orbital drops are some of the coolest shit ever. Not a moment wasted when the hatch opens. When that pod hits the ground it's go time
i miss the spartan 2's they kicked ass and didn't talk.
1:48 those five notes bring back so many memories.
That nod is the most commanding "howdy neighbor, nice day" thing I've seen in a good while.
That spartan had their coffee before drop
Pity 343's story telling when down hill recently. also this is basically spartan 3 recruitment
Man, so proud play as the Emperor Choosen Wrath Incarnate.
No Xenos, Heretics shall escape my Hate.. Oops, Wrong Drop pod
lmao, knowing space marine they wouldnt even bat an eye to save one helpless human
@@Ansardianti unless you are a Salamander, but then, the city will probably burn first.
@@mohdnorhalimzainudin7740 either way.... The Emperor protects
Imagine if the tv show had this sort of feel
I guess she doesn’t mind her shoulders. Chief shoulder armor was close to the chest plating.
i fucking love the little rock riffs that infinte adds
After this intro, a part of me wishes the Halo Infinite campaign was played through the eyes of this Spartan IV that we run Academy and Multiplayer with.
Or do a 50/50 split: 50% Chief on the Ring. 50% this Spartan called on to head to the ring after the Infinity, Chief, and the others go missing.
Yeah, bad idea, just look Halo 5
@@juanpaacosta8296 halo 5 had good ideas but shit execution
The game severely lacked direction
That was Halo 5 and look at how that panned out. Lmao
This is so cringe. Spartans aren’t created through applying for tryouts. They’re picked. While they’re still toddlers or young kids. I felt like I was watching a Disney movie just now lol. Like I was waiting for her to say “here, we have fun. It’s a safe space and anyone can do it if you put your mind to it.”
As a black man I really hate the diversity quotas that companies try to satisfy when continuing IPs. All I ask is if your gonna use black people in a movie or blackwash already existing franchises for the sake of satisfying this mythological "white guilt", please us or create a photogenic black person. I mean, there are actually attractive black people out there. I know this, I seen them in 4K. To this day in games, the only real objectively hot black characters I have seen are Shiva Alamar(RE5) and the J.D. Morrison(DMC5). The irony is that both of these characters come from Capcom, a Japanese company.
Bonnie Ross is to blame since she handles all the diversity qoutas and force feed em to the Halo community that she destroyed.
how is this “white guilt” or “black washing”
That piano motif gets me every god damn time.
4:16
I like the music that plays when she says "Chief" cause it's basically his theme
Wait, they made all of this for the TUTORIAL!!!!? That's pretty cool.
What would be awesome is if we got a side story in like season 2 or 3 where you are your spartan fighting on the Halo ring after the chief cleared it. Kinda like Halo ODST where it isn't the chief but, it all ties together
i like how every thing is futuristic then there is just a old big ben at 0:05
Seems like a good Spartan Commander 💯👍🏾🔥
Damn are they forever badass. The old generations always are most coolest especially the 2-3, pure fucking Sigmas. The 4s are still pretty badass but they don't hit the same
Agreed
I like the idea that the IV's are basically civilians going in to take up the mantle of heroes though. It makes sense that Chief and alot of other Spartans would ignite that kind of fire in people.
@@zjuraeventide8949 They are not civilians lol spartan 4s only take odsts and combat hardened marines basically taking the best unaugmented soliders and making them better i have no idea where this sentiment comes from that spartan 4s come from random smucks on the street
@KIS I'm pretty sure that's cap but ok
@KIS I have never seen that anywhere in lore
Now THAT'S! how you do a female character! And the entire short opening itself is awesome!
... What? Just some nobody who gets plot armoured by spartans literally falling out of the sky last second to play rescue, then handwaving through everything between them becoming spartan themselves? That's what you want for your standard?
@@Poolehful what’s so bad about it? The short’s point is to give you an idea of what Spartans are. It accomplishes that well doesn’t it?
@@Jack-rq7ll Not really, no. Not with this one, especially. What did they do that any ordinary grunt doesn't?
@@Poolehful The short shows us a very quick transition of a soldier to a spartan. This, in my opinion, is here to give us a synopsis of the values Spartans learn in their training. Also, Spartans are just a form of grunt. They are just super soldier infantry. So it makes sense that they would be boots on the ground like grunts. However, it is not the mission that truly sets Spartans apart from other troops. It’s the extremes they go to for their missions, not just their enhanced strength.
@@Poolehful yes 👍
My only issue with this, is the girls/womans/Spartan Commanders voice doesn't have any presence, charisma, just sounds like someone reading the lines without any effort given.
Yeah, pretty lackluster. So was the "Yes ma'am" response in the first part. No umph.
looks 1000% better than the live action tv series
Gonna be busy keeping the colonies in line am I rite? (That was the original purpose for the spartans, the overwhelmingly suppress human resistance)
Everybody gangsta til Johnson sights in the stanchion
In Bad Blood Buck had warned Jun that Leonidas was working for Cortana. So I believe that Jun knew and made plans to have everyone evacuate without Cortana knowing, that’s why Agrena said “Laconia changed everything, we had to regroup”, also in the campaign Weapon asked Chief if all the Spartans were killed and he gave her a very Quick and vague “Yes” showing that Chief still didn’t fully trust her to tell her evacuation plans had been made. Just a thought 💭 right….
I miss how you had to be highly selected to be a Spartan, now at this point. anyone can get in
I'd like to imagine that Spartan II's and III's are Icons to Spartan IV's
Two Generations of Spartans that survived against impossible odds and died ether blowing up Halo Rings with a fuck ton of covenant going down with them or dying saving the Innocent from the onslaught of the Covenant.
A Role model that Spartan IV's want to live up to.
And if word gets out that Master Chief is still alive and didn't die along with the Infinity then I can't imagine how much joy will come out of it.
You telling me we getting Spartan reinforcements in zeta halo’s next dlc ?? Hell yeahhhhhh
is this cutscene canon? that means while the halo infinite campaign is happening the unsc are training more Spartans
I’m confused too
Makes sense you need soldiers to fight a war and soldiers die so training more is inevitable.
@@deez8993 Spartans never die.
@@Kloutkulture true, they simply go on a great journey to kill more prophets in the next world
Yeah why wouldn’t it be its not like humans lost earth and all their colonies they only lost infinity and most of her crew the war is just beginning
I’m glad that at least some spartans survived Cortana and the banished. This time hopefully the spartan 4s are written right
"we are hope" almost crush the person with a pod
Imagine Marines Malevolent came out of the Drop Pot.
I think that was us surviving Laconia station during that waking up drowsy.
i am so glad i grew up with this game
They really nailed these cutscenes though
I know that "iTs jUsT A VieDO gAME" but it always really bothers me in military shooters when the characters take there firing hand off there weapons to do stuff. In real life , especially a combat zone, your firing hand never leaves the ready position and you use your non firing hand to do stuff with. You also never ever just lay your rifle down in a combat zone. Small details.
Little details matter too and I agree with you on that
have spent enough time in combat zones to know people do both all the time. I wouldnt trust someone so wound they were always hands on, humans arent built for being wound that long, people like that are why friendly fire is so ridiculously common.
You're often told never to put your hands in your pockets, but we did it all the time in my unit -- the heathens that we were. People can take little moments to just be normal without it detracting from their performance on patrol/in combat.
Spartans are trained to shoot with either hand, so no it doesn't matter what hand they use to do other things.
I do stuff like that, go in my own cognition.
Well decent better then Palmer but Palmer bar is very low...
😂😂
Lol we have palmer bar now? Lmao
@@MaDNeSS1116 Palmer bar is slighty Higher then Lock bar...
finally we see a story of someone who see a spartan while they a civilian and then timeskip back to them as the role of a spartan. Its always the odsts who do that
We need an open world halo game set in cities like this. ODST style
When she was no Spartan, the other male Spartans were 50% bigger than her.
And when she was a Spartan, she was 1 head bigger than the other male Spartan recruits.
wtf?
Some Spartans are bigger, Gorge are Kurt are examples, those two were giants by Spartan standars
I am curious of the timeline for when she's a civilian into her being a Spartan 4.
Assuming those 4s that saved her did so when they went active on the first possible day of 7th January 2553. And it's around Halo Infinite's start date in that cutscene so it's near the end of 2559. So we will say 7 years. She went from civilian to Spartan 4 commander in 7 years? What's the career trajectory there. It's a similar issue I had with Palmer. She's 30 years old but she's the commanding officer of the special forces on humanities biggest warship as of the start of Halo 4. They're making all the Spartans a bit too young. There should be some more who seem like hardened soldiers. Even if you bumped Palmer up to 40 years old it would be easier to buy into. They're taken from the best of the best. But aside from Osiris (despite their flaws) I don't feel that's really been portrayed.
They became expendables... Cheap and cheerful...
They're not spartan 4s. Either 2s or 3s.
@@john90392 They're in London (so after the Covenant attacked Earth) and some of them are wearing Spartan 4 armour.
So realistically it's 2553. At a push we can say it's a beta test of IIIs using the armour made for IVs. But that's still going to be putting us at the end of 2552.
@@Slazmoservicing4209 Yeah the cheerful bit is what is bugging me with her. She's too cheesy. "What did I tell you about making jokes." (Big cheesy smile) "Not to stop." "Hahaz exactly." (Big cheesy smile.) "By the way, all the Spartans are dead and the Infinite is destroyed. Lol." (Big cheesy smile.) She's needing a section 8.
The only thing 343 could do right was graphics💀
This inspired me to become a Spartan for good
Watch this with a bass boosted headset or ear buds and thank me later.
After seeming four Spartans fight three brutes and come out with one wounded spartan, im beginning to see how all of them died.
Yeah after spartan 3s the quality went down hill. Notice how you never see 2s and 3s never make a big deal about being one
So wounded they need to be supported in fact. They also literally just dropped so presumably that's the first engagement of the start of their mission... 😬
you see weakness in SIVs but i see this as brutes being a tough enemy. If im not mistaken, chief was almost killed by one
Brutes are physically stronger than Spartans, Chief almost die againts a normal Brute in the books.
you want to know how much SIIs went out shitty way in the books? Which are cannon and were made during Bungie era? 4 died on reach only in drop. More during fight. There was a SII killed during high risk mission on Covenant ship. She died on beginning of it. You don't know how much SIIs died, were wounded casually? They weren't invincible. Hell, that spartan who died on covenant ship had Mjolnir with shields and she died during SINGLE engangment but where marines or ODSTs would for sure fail
Spartans are like The Salamanders of 40k Warhammer. They put people first.
The only thing I don't understand is why they've already got Mjolnir if they're not fully trained yet, I'm going to assume that it's just additional training and practicing their skills since IVs needed to Earn their armor instead of getting Auged then given the armor to train in.
You know in a way we're technically like the old Spartans from like Halo 1 or Halo reach if you think about it while our new generation of kids that grow up and they get to play this version of Halo they'll be the next generation Spartans that will lead the way hopefully it'll be a little bit better if you get me
Does trigger me when they call games like CE old outdated junk tho 😂😂
We kinda are the Spartan 2's, 3's, and ODST's. Then fortnite transfers are mistakes, I mean 4's. But seriously the game spacing with the different generations of spartans is perfect. We actually can consider ourselves the generation of spartans from the game we started in (When in game). Or ODST's for some. We're the ones that understand the different uses of each weapon intimately instead of just trying to spam plasma at an enemy with no shields.
I wish there were two campaigns one with master chief and one like halo reach I hate that u don’t get to use your own spartan like reach did I hope one day they make another halo game like reach
I wouldn’t mind if they made a plot based around the Spartans at that base. It could be the new Spartan Ops if anyone remembers that.
Spartan Ops was my favorite part of 4. I think it'd be fun
That nod is everything halo.
Just once I’d love to see a IV attain the reputation of a II, or a III. Some ballsy moves or some unconventional gambles that pay off in a pinch - real grand concepts like re entering atmosphere. Right now it’s like they’re ODSTs with shields.
I think Infinite tried to show that IV’s, while not as lethal as II’s, are still Spartans. Just look at the campaign while you’re finding the Spartans. One took out like 16 banished with a screwdriver. Even chief says Spartans don’t go quietly when referring to a IV. I think people are really sleeping on IV’s if they still think they’re just ODST’s with fancy armor
@@navysailor4117 but they are
@@navysailor4117 My issue is precisely that, conceptually, every Spartan IV is a John Wick that takes out 16 banished with a screwdriver and then dies. Good warriors, with boot-camp discipline and average smarts. They fight, kill, run missions til they get overrun and die. I don’t think they’re weak, they’re just conventional teams treated as expendable story markers.
it’d be great to see someone else come close to being the tactical nuke level of spartan, like a hyper lethal vector. Something or someone to show that IVs are reliable in quality, with some of the best, rather than a force to be deployed in quantity. The idea that a few heroes can change the fate of a battle or a war with their own actions, even if it’s a tragedy, it’s great storytelling that fosters respect. And to be fair I think characters like Palmer and Locke have that potential, I just have gripes with how they’re treated at large.
@@RadicalRain Locke could’ve been that type of character honestly, but they destroyed him. Buck, if they’d work with him, could also have that potential. I’d also like to see a IV get some spotlight time, so we could have potentially another spinoff like Reach did with noble 6.
@@RadicalRain keeping in mind that there are only 14 active spartan 2s left. I don't think having the IVs go out guns blazing is any different to how most of the IIs went. Every Spartan II that has been shown going down in combat left a wake of dead covenant behind them or just the vaporized remains in Kurt and Sam's cases. Infinite will hopefully give 343s writers the open platform to expand the IVs story more. Both Buck and Locke have the character potential to be strong secondary characters like Johnson, but no spartan other then Noble 6 has ever been labeled hyper lethal like John. The thing's we do has Chief are acts that would normally take an entire spartan fireteam.
The visuals are great. But just compare this woman to Commander Carter-A259. She looks more like a kindergarten teacher than a Spartan commander.
And now its time to show more spartans in Infinite !
I thought to be a Spartan you need to be healthy and strong. But it seems to me she got jaundiced eyes. She better go get her liver checked.
Yes halo ce 2 3 music 🥰
Too many Spartans, 343 treats Spartans like if they were ODSTs they put dozens every game.
What happened to Palmer? The fire teams from Spartans ops?
Then Team osiris ?
Now we got another Spartan leader that black girl?
I agree...spartans completely lost their identity
I like how they used the covenant brute design in the intro and the small clip of the halo 3 ODST theme when she looked at the brute
The facial animation in the first sequence is some of the best I've seen
A little cheesy but that’s fine.
Corny as hell... some kind of SJW feel good military camp...
I've seen enthusiasm by combat veteran Sargeants, and this ain't it.
@@yharnamiyhill787 A black woman existing doesn't make it SJW...
@@argosime what makes you think it is because of the black woman? Your not projecting are you?
@@argosime They didn't bring up her race. You made that racist connection yourself.
@@yharnamiyhill787 what the hell else made it SJW then?
You guys always play this stupid game
What is this? This looks amazing. Is this Spartan ops or something
This is the tutorial
No but it does feel like the possibility is there, with the story and that.
Ppl keep saying this is a Banish attack but no this is 100% covenant.