My guess may be unpopular, but I'm betting that Rockville K9 is gonna beat them all in output. The Savard RAP and Sundown close 2nd and 3rd, then Resilliant, then Cadence. Can't wait to see the next part, gots me on the edge of my seat homie!
@@jonadkins9339 Thanks but I was just commenting. I'm running 2 DD 700 redline series. I haven't heard anything bad bad about the SSA brand. I was wondering about that brand. The EVILs would probably be more to my liking..lol
Suggestion: Install the threaded inserts on the back side. Takes the stress off the hardware’s threads and applies it to the rear of the baffle (if the baffle is not stacked or too thick). Really helpful if you are mounting subs inverted.
Please no skar very overrated sub and only popular because of Amazon and ripping sundown off. Look at parker dachille videos to see how disappointing skar is.
@@paquesepas6696 I only brought it up the SDR series because I played with a couple of the SDR18's and ended up kinda impressed with their sound quality and efficiency especially for the price.
fyi the 15inch k9 has 3 inch vioce coil the 12 has a 2.5 inch coil .ive rebuilt 30 plus k915s and they come from factory with crap for cooling . basically the better the cooling the longer it will last . lordofbass.com sells 5mm and10mm motor spacers $3 for 6 of them . i take the motor apart and space everything (top plate , both magnets , bottom plate) while its apart clean all the parts . i use pvc pipe the same size of voice coil then warp paper around pipe till it fits snug .epoxy spacers to each row. now some companys only glue the motors together and rockville its hit or miss so if they are glued . take motor to a machine shop and have them drill 6 evenly spaced holes and have them tap the bottom plate it used to cost me $20 till i got a drill press . when you order the new voice coil half of the lenght of the new spacers . so if you do 4 rows of 5mm spacers you will order a 10mm longer coil / 10mm spacers order 20mm longer . . i get flat copper wire /alum former with cooling holes and 1 inch longer former from stock . bolt your motor to the frame . i stall a spacer between siders and use 2 spiders . the only other thing i do is 7 inch carbon dust cap . you can do this to any woofer for cooling , more power and xmax . you just took a $150 woofer and made it a $500 beast for about $50- 60 $75 if you get new cone robot-underground.square.site/product/12-5-series-subwoofer-cone-for-bender-by-blackjack-audio-johnny-five-/132?cs=true . do your self a favor and call them so you get the right parts
Do they work with you on what you need? From the website it looks like they’re the place to go. I’m interested in experimenting with different parts whenever I need to rebuild.
Will do. They were recommended to me when I thought I damaged my ssa. I was moving my son’s power wheels and the battery fell right on the cone followed by a buzz on some notes. Turned out the sub was fine and the box broke so I definitely recommend them. I was actually getting excited looking into what I could do with a recone
Thank you for the budget videos I hope you also tell your customers what ones you found out work good and what ones you found out don't so we don't go waste our money
Did all these subs have the same cut-out diameters , so you can use one box for all of them? Curious because I have the sundowns and was seeking other subs to maybe change them
Can you do a video testing out cerwin vegas actual output? I've loved the brand for years but honestly anymore I feel that they are over rating the speakers.
I hope the e series does well. I’d like to support a company like sundown that invests in r&d and seems to have a genuine passion for their products. Rockville, not so much. It’s not even that they had problems but how they handled it. Exo initially gave the k9 a glowing review then made a video apologizing to his viewers, which was a stand up thing to do. The others are all brands I’ve considered so this should be interesting.
i got 2 brand new incriminator audio i series 10 d2s for 152.?? You agree tose best 10s money can buy for 152 NEW! ave custom birch ported and stained box for them for my sister. I think best deal i could poss got>
I need a shootout for 10" dvc under $50 shipped. there are several available and i am planning to do a quad 10" box. I have 2 mtx 2300's on a pair of subs under the seat, ads rs10's, the long quad box is going to be removeable, so it sits on the back bench seat (extended cab silverado)
EMF looked at the K9 and the specs are completely wrong. The X-max is impossible and obviously from previous videos we know that the actual RMS is half of what Rockville claims. Still a good budge 500 rms sub.
Exactly. I just watched the same vid recently. They use CES 2031 testing metrics which dont really define any strict parameters. As long as one is aware they can only handle 500w then yeah not bad for $120. But being lied to is a huge turn off.
@@sfv1001 webstore.ansi.org/standards/cea/cea20312008ansi CEA is what I assume you are talking about? Not ces? Lol And yes there are clearly defined standards. Tones are played at multiple Different frequency’s for a specific amount of time while measuring distortion. The bursts are short and have a crest factor. The K-9 will pass the CEA tests. It will not pass the test standards invented out of thin air by youtube people that pair the sub with amps rated 2 to 3 times the cea rating. Cea 2006 is an industry standard. Sorry but a constant long sine wave, from an amp rated 2x3 time the rating is not a cea test. Its abuse. It be like if your girlfriend could only handle a 6 inch cock and you went and grabbed an 18 inch dick and started trying to fuck her with it.
This couldn't have come at a better time. My vic got jacked three weeks ago. The pioneer deh 9600 , the RF p3 12's, RF ph165.2 , onyx ndx5500 , the custom box, all the wire gone. So it's time to rebuild, this time the system is going to set on attack😈
The Rockville will most likely win in if you don’t put rated power about 750-800rms next is probably sundown then savard then resilience then cadence last
Honestly the rockville seems like the most for the money. As weird as that is to say lol. And thank you very much for the stickers man! That was very nice of you! I'll send ya something cool soon. God bless!
@Natural Creature I agree. But they're not under $100. I got american bass elite that were about $135 each. I got a few videos on my channel. They're deff worth the money.
My guess may be unpopular, but I'm betting that Rockville K9 is gonna beat them all in output. The Savard RAP and Sundown close 2nd and 3rd, then Resilliant, then Cadence. Can't wait to see the next part, gots me on the edge of my seat homie!
The Rockville looms large when you’re just looking at the specs for sure.
It does look like it. It’s kind of a monster next to the others.
I think you may be right Big D in terms of output but I think the sound quality of the Savard will win the making the Savard best all around.
Big D I gotta disagree. If they do beat the others, it will do so at expense of quality in sound and heat.
But I would take the RS or Savard any day
I am hopeful that the Savard and Resilient Sounds sounds the best. It's just not about loudness but quality of sound for me.
Yes hopefully he talks in depth about sound quality as I'm now passed the spl stage lol and I want something that sounds cleaner.
Mee too
I kinda think that’s an ev 3 I may be wrong but I have the v 2 and it don’t look like that one ...
Hey have you test any shallow mount subs? I would like to see something like that
Not recently, but it’s something I’ll consider
Would love if you can add the Dayton audio reference 12 in this shootout am really looking at that one and the sundown e12.
Will sound quality be discussed as well?
I will mention it, but it’s so subjective I’m trying to keep this test to the numbers.
@@HifiVega That's good enough for me! Excited to hear your thoughts!
I was wondering the same thing but, @ this price point, you probably just want bass
@@darrianbenjamin7292 If you want SQ from a sub at this price point. I highly recommend the SSA Demon!
@@jonadkins9339 Thanks but I was just commenting. I'm running 2 DD 700 redline series. I haven't heard anything bad bad about the SSA brand. I was wondering about that brand. The EVILs would probably be more to my liking..lol
I will be baricking for the Resilient Sounds item
I had some cadence subs back in 2000s that sounded great
Suggestion: Install the threaded inserts on the back side. Takes the stress off the hardware’s threads and applies it to the rear of the baffle (if the baffle is not stacked or too thick). Really helpful if you are mounting subs inverted.
Savard Raps 👍 I would love to see Cerwin Vega pro series sometime a great budget sub in my opinion. They take a beating and give it right back to you
Shallow sub shootout ?
I'm really pulling for the Savard and the RS but I have to agree with Big D on this one. I think the K9 will come out on top....
Hit up Skar and see if they'll send you a SDR-12, it would fit in perfect with this group and box.
Agreed
Please no skar very overrated sub and only popular because of Amazon and ripping sundown off. Look at parker dachille videos to see how disappointing skar is.
@@paquesepas6696 lol eat a fat one buddy
@@paquesepas6696 I only brought it up the SDR series because I played with a couple of the SDR18's and ended up kinda impressed with their sound quality and efficiency especially for the price.
Sundown is going to Win but I’m curious how the k9 does seeing as it should say rated 500w rms that coil is going to burn at 1000 haha.
fyi the 15inch k9 has 3 inch vioce coil the 12 has a 2.5 inch coil .ive rebuilt 30 plus k915s and they come from factory with crap for cooling . basically the better the cooling the longer it will last . lordofbass.com sells 5mm and10mm motor spacers $3 for 6 of them . i take the motor apart and space everything (top plate , both magnets , bottom plate) while its apart clean all the parts . i use pvc pipe the same size of voice coil then warp paper around pipe till it fits snug .epoxy spacers to each row. now some companys only glue the motors together and rockville its hit or miss so if they are glued . take motor to a machine shop and have them drill 6 evenly spaced holes and have them tap the bottom plate it used to cost me $20 till i got a drill press . when you order the new voice coil half of the lenght of the new spacers . so if you do 4 rows of 5mm spacers you will order a 10mm longer coil / 10mm spacers order 20mm longer . . i get flat copper wire /alum former with cooling holes and 1 inch longer former from stock . bolt your motor to the frame . i stall a spacer between siders and use 2 spiders . the only other thing i do is 7 inch carbon dust cap . you can do this to any woofer for cooling , more power and xmax . you just took a $150 woofer and made it a $500 beast for about $50- 60 $75 if you get new cone robot-underground.square.site/product/12-5-series-subwoofer-cone-for-bender-by-blackjack-audio-johnny-five-/132?cs=true . do your self a favor and call them so you get the right parts
Do they work with you on what you need? From the website it looks like they’re the place to go. I’m interested in experimenting with different parts whenever I need to rebuild.
@@gregblau8082 ask for pat he is the man robot-underground.square.site/
Will do. They were recommended to me when I thought I damaged my ssa. I was moving my son’s power wheels and the battery fell right on the cone followed by a buzz on some notes. Turned out the sub was fine and the box broke so I definitely recommend them. I was actually getting excited looking into what I could do with a recone
@@gregblau8082 the guy is incredable and if i can help i will
I'm curious on the RS, as I have there mids and highs ready for an install 😊
I have a pr on an Orion XTR 1500.1DZ. They slam and sound great too.
Thank you for the budget videos I hope you also tell your customers what ones you found out work good and what ones you found out don't so we don't go waste our money
Did all these subs have the same cut-out diameters , so you can use one box for all of them?
Curious because I have the sundowns and was seeking other subs to maybe change them
Had to make an adapter for the K9 you’ll see in the next vid
@@HifiVega 👀 forward to it
Whats up with Orion? I've been looking and most places list their subs as discontinued...
I dunno, but I’ve noticed that too
Can you do a video testing out cerwin vegas actual output? I've loved the brand for years but honestly anymore I feel that they are over rating the speakers.
If I come across one I just might
The audio pipe txx bdc2 12 should be on here . It’s an absolute beast for what it is
It is for sure
Yes to the bdc2 being here
Sundown for the win, the e series will take 50 percent more than rated, trust me I know!!! Real budget bamger........
Sundown FTW and sound good doing it.
For a budget sub all these are monsters
I hope the e series does well. I’d like to support a company like sundown that invests in r&d and seems to have a genuine passion for their products. Rockville, not so much. It’s not even that they had problems but how they handled it. Exo initially gave the k9 a glowing review then made a video apologizing to his viewers, which was a stand up thing to do. The others are all brands I’ve considered so this should be interesting.
i got 2 brand new incriminator audio i series 10 d2s for 152.?? You agree tose best 10s money can buy for 152 NEW! ave custom birch ported and stained box for them for my sister. I think best deal i could poss got>
Nice box. very expensive?
Hit Josh up his prices are very fair
You should of did an audiopipe bd2 they are what I chose for budget subwoofers
My vote is for the Savard RAP12
I need a shootout for 10" dvc under $50 shipped. there are several available and i am planning to do a quad 10" box.
I have 2 mtx 2300's on a pair of subs under the seat, ads rs10's, the long quad box is going to be removeable, so it sits on the back bench seat (extended cab silverado)
I had 3 2300x amps back in the day. Love them!
Sundown all the way
EMF looked at the K9 and the specs are completely wrong. The X-max is impossible and obviously from previous videos we know that the actual RMS is half of what Rockville claims. Still a good budge 500 rms sub.
I thought he did the new rockville punisher? I could be wrong.
Exactly. I just watched the same vid recently. They use CES 2031 testing metrics which dont really define any strict parameters. As long as one is aware they can only handle 500w then yeah not bad for $120. But being lied to is a huge turn off.
@@sfv1001 webstore.ansi.org/standards/cea/cea20312008ansi
CEA is what I assume you are talking about? Not ces? Lol
And yes there are clearly defined standards. Tones are played at multiple Different frequency’s for a specific amount of time while measuring distortion. The bursts are short and have a crest factor.
The K-9 will pass the CEA tests.
It will not pass the test standards invented out of thin air by youtube people that pair the sub with amps rated 2 to 3 times the cea rating. Cea 2006 is an industry standard.
Sorry but a constant long sine wave, from an amp rated 2x3 time the rating is not a cea test. Its abuse.
It be like if your girlfriend could only handle a 6 inch cock and you went and grabbed an 18 inch dick and started trying to fuck her with it.
Will there be a 1 minute or 1 song RMS test?
Both, kinda. You’ll see next week 😉
I dont hate to say I love my rockville k6s I beat the hell out of them I've been building systems for over 20 years couldn't be happier
how much power on k6s?
This couldn't have come at a better time. My vic got jacked three weeks ago.
The pioneer deh 9600 , the RF p3 12's, RF ph165.2 , onyx ndx5500 , the custom box, all the wire gone.
So it's time to rebuild, this time the system is going to set on attack😈
That sucks! I’ve had several systems jacked so I feel your pain, but it’s always cool to get new gear on a brighter note.
You said the Savard has a 3" voice coil. The savard website says 2.5"
The website is correct I misspoke
Sundown is badass ... X12 V1 D2 ...I got from the 199 surprise and I love it.
It still doesn't come near my WOLFRAM HG-15
Where is pt 2?
Next week man! I just had too much to edit and wanted to make sure I got everything right
Great line up G and BIG D is the bomb 💣
Go savard! Idk though sundown have always surprised me. Thanks for bringing the another shoot out. There fun.
The Rockville will most likely win in if you don’t put rated power about 750-800rms next is probably sundown then savard then resilience then cadence last
I'm excited for this series. I love a good budget banger.
I have a pair of the sundown E10s and they beat. Great build quality also for the price
I think the sundown e12v2 is going to sound the best.
I haven’t stumbled across a bad sounding SD sub yet! Although I haven’t tried any of the really high power SD subs yet.
@@HifiVegaThey have good subs
@@HifiVega I’ve heard the SD x-12 that sub is a beast.
❤ popped up in my selection
The Rockville has the looks but that aint everything🤣keep an eye on that Resilient sounds.
Honestly the rockville seems like the most for the money. As weird as that is to say lol. And thank you very much for the stickers man! That was very nice of you! I'll send ya something cool soon. God bless!
@Natural Creature I agree. But they're not under $100. I got american bass elite that were about $135 each. I got a few videos on my channel. They're deff worth the money.
It's time... We've arrived! Thank You Rob!
Now I'm glued to the tube...
Resilient Sounds Baybee Ftw
Might blow that Rockville during testing
I hope not, but it’s a possibility
Rap savard for the win 🙌
Crescendo for me
Awesome work!!!
Can’t wait to see the next one
I'm thinking that Sundown is going to be near the top. A lot of bump for your buck.
Great video..you should've titled this the weigh in!..lol
Yo you sho right! Missed opportunity
I hope the Savard Rap is goin to win since I just bought two of them
I think you will be happy
Do they really need such big boxes? I have 1.6 net ported to 32hz to work with so looking for subs that like small boxes.
I love the subs but he ruined the box with that crazy high tuning. He got the 2.25’ right though. Just need it tuned to 25-29Hz 😊
I requested 35hz tuning with the musical bandwidth of the enclosure in mind. Making it ideal to test many different subwoofers with one enclosure
Catching up buddy
NICE!!!
I wouldn't recommend Rockville to anyone
Totally understand that, but in my case I tried to bring the expectations down to a realistic level before I recommended it