What is the best budget car subwoofer in 2024? Cheap 12 inch subwoofer shootout!

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  • @DIYAudioGuy
    @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Check out the $35 subwoofer challenge here: th-cam.com/video/9xTCAtZOD9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KbiZOCO4fOnC8r20

    • @barramdass9907
      @barramdass9907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi can you tell me the displacement of a ds18 gen x 12inch subwoofer

  • @AngelTorres-ny6cn
    @AngelTorres-ny6cn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Putting the Infinity in third place rating makes no sense. Its a speaker and does what its suppose to do and looks really good. Its the only speaker that survived the test too.

    • @ETA555
      @ETA555 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree....

    • @kevinburris3729
      @kevinburris3729 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed and any real installer will solder the connections and would prefer the “cheap” terminals

    • @DarioBubnjic
      @DarioBubnjic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That infinity is actualy Jbl cs1214 sub only with different soft parts coils, motors and baskets are the same just wanted to share this out since people might want to know, but its best of the lot for sure decend 4layer vc on it as well

  • @matpatte
    @matpatte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, dropping the best subwoofer to 3 over the terminal connections is flatout insane.

  • @Ladysman_217
    @Ladysman_217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Probably not relevant at this price point, but a company who backs up their warranty is as important as how their product performs.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That's one reason why I like Kicker and Savard. You can actually call them up and get somebody on the telephone or email them and get a response.

    • @williamblackwell9558
      @williamblackwell9558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DIYAudioGuy I use Savard HI-Q12''s .“Laissez les bons temps rouler”

    • @zombiekiller-os4rj
      @zombiekiller-os4rj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DIYAudioGuyinfinity has the best customer support in the world, love them

    • @lonewolfsstuck
      @lonewolfsstuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had to warranty my 12" skar and had excellent customer service with them via email.

  • @prb3263
    @prb3263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just purchased a pair of Infinity Primus based on this video
    Thanks for the in-depth review - As I'm not "feature" oriented, the Infinity won hands down for me
    I couldn't find Thiele Small for the Infinity Primus 1200 anywhere on the internet. Here's the data from the spec sheet included:
    Qts: 0.45 Qms: 3.65
    Vas: 76.6 (Liters) Qes: 0.51
    Fs: 28.7 SPL: 90 (2.83v @ 1M)
    Re: 3.6 ohm Pe: 300 WRMS
    Le: 2.26 mH BL: 14.2
    Xmax: 12.3 mm Dia: 300 mm
    Z: 4 ohm Sd: 531 cm2
    Mms: 158.1 Mmd: 150.3g
    Hag: 6mm Hvc: 30.7mm

  • @dirt_ripper8734
    @dirt_ripper8734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    My BOSS met me at the Pyramid. He had to take a huge Blaupunkt that left a big Pyle and wound up leaving a Skar . He said it felt like it was going to keep going for Infinity.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @mwrightinsurance
      @mwrightinsurance 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct. All shit.

    • @trojan6530
      @trojan6530 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂👍

  • @donaldjackson4456
    @donaldjackson4456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have those gold infinity 12s. They hit hard. Highly recommend especially for small enclosures.

  • @bruth6138
    @bruth6138 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's funny is most of these look like top of the line woofers from the early 1990s and those were perfectly fine!

  • @cliffordsawyer2994
    @cliffordsawyer2994 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When i got back into car audio i picked up 4 of those infinitys and a ctSounds 2k and a big ported box and they handled every bit that amp would put out and sounded amazing, sense then i now have a couple giant 8s and bigger amp, but out of the subs you showcased those infinitys are far more superior than the others

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome!

  • @JBM113
    @JBM113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pyramid vs Pyle. Rockford Fosgate vs Kicker. The early 90's was a very interesting time. MTX Blue Thunder was and still is my favorite of all time.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My first subwoofer was a Blue Thunder.

  • @nathanjames4242
    @nathanjames4242 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I would have been interested to see the Recoil Audio Echo series RW12D4 included in this list. Its only $54.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If people like this video enough, I might do another cheap subwoofer shoot out. There are several good subs that missed that $50 cut off, maybe it's time for a $75 subwoofer shootout.

    • @nathanjames4242
      @nathanjames4242 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DIYAudioGuy I mean, I think the $75-$100 range is going to catch the most of what people are willing to spend for an entry level sub.

    • @tatialo37
      @tatialo37 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheep is good!!!

    • @alfredo5189
      @alfredo5189 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy On Amazon, I found the Pioneer TS-A30S4 for 70€ with 400W RMS. I'd like to see that one tested sometime because my car audio setup isn't optimal, I wanna see how much power it handles :) . Thank you for your videos Justin

    • @valorantorion1588
      @valorantorion1588 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

  • @t3chninja_official
    @t3chninja_official 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the older version of the Pyle 12 Power subwoofer with a steal basket and I love it! I'm an oldskool enthusiast and this screams oldskool Rockford Fosgate Power DVC 12" subwoofer from the 90's. I have an oldskook Alpine dual channel amp running mono to around 200 watts but I don't drive it that hard. It does what I want it to do so I'm happy. I don't need a 1200 watt hungry sub but my son has 2 1200 watt CTSound 12" subwoofers in one of their enclosures with a mono amp of theirs and the entire car seems to be vibrating apart.

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My best guess on the Pyramid would be that theyre trying to advertise the sub as having a "high temp" voice coil. Technically able to handle sustained use at high power when used as say a guitar or PA monitor. Plastic baskets believe it or not are ALOT less resonant than a stamped steel basket.

  • @thelastnoobstanding
    @thelastnoobstanding 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do the best SQL subs in its recommended box size ported and sealed.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      For something like that, I wouldn't do a shootout video, I would do a video on each individual subwoofer. Especially when you consider the time and cost needed to build the enclosure.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Something like that will probably take six or seven videos. Definitely something I'd like to do one day.

    • @LatvianVideo
      @LatvianVideo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      recommended boxes? awful, ive only seen a few which are decently tuned. And they wont be anything more than a simple ported box

    • @TripleOgTripleOgTriple
      @TripleOgTripleOgTriple 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So the buyer of subs like these can enjoy. A master builder isn't buying $50 or less subs 😂

  • @3v3pirat37
    @3v3pirat37 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never buy cheap subs.......lessons were learned in this video. A good rule of thumb is to also never buy the most expensive. Buy the one just below the most expensive that normally has all the important features without the unneeded extras.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree.

  • @CherrySquishee
    @CherrySquishee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've been wondering why the NVX N-series wasn't included in this test. It has been on sale for a while. I even bought a set based on your recommendations.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I hope that you're enjoying the sub.

    • @BaddDukk
      @BaddDukk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Justin quipped somewhere a little while ago that he no longer supports/endorses NVX. There were no further details and he is not obligated to provide any but it left me quite curious why.

    • @CherrySquishee
      @CherrySquishee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I caught part of that, and I'm sure in time we may know why so.
      I haven't installed mine yet due to some personal matters that came up. I hope to have them bumpin by summer. If they are a bust, at least I have the two budget Pioneers that came on sale earlier this year.
      Happy Easter yall!

    • @theakh4238
      @theakh4238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BaddDukk wasn't SB Acoustics making drivers for NVX at some point? Maybe they aren't anymore.

  • @nicholasskridla2475
    @nicholasskridla2475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love my Skar 12. Running about 400 watts to it

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The next level up from this one is about 80 or 90 bucks and they can easily handle 500 watts.

  • @greenbassboosts8872
    @greenbassboosts8872 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The first subs i bought were pyramid super pros. I dropped one and the motor shifted lol. Magnet is just glued on no screws

  • @theakh4238
    @theakh4238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would be cool to get Klippel data for these drivers, because that says more they frequency response by itself. But I know the test gear isn't cheap.

  • @YellowSn0man
    @YellowSn0man 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This test really shows how dominant the box is, and why it’s so important to tailor the box to the individual speaker.
    I’ve been hoping someone would make a video about response curves, and what they actually sound like. People need to learn what sounds best to them individually, so they have a target to aim for when building a box. That way people know what a Q .707 sealed, or sbb4, or ebs sound like. Play the same songs for each alignment.
    JL has capitalized on this. They found the sound most people like. Model any of their car subs, they have extremely similar response curves. Their ported enclosure responses are very similar to their sealed, just louder. They definitely have a target curve/sound.

  • @tuffytoys9707
    @tuffytoys9707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    !! But How can you Forget to get an Audiopipe sub for Testing??

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did not see it for sale online when I bought these.

  • @lonewolfsstuck
    @lonewolfsstuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this exact SKAR and have had no real issue with it that wasnt my fault. I have ~300=350w going through the skar and the original one i think some of the epoxy came off one of the coils, sent it into SKAR for warranty and they replaced it without issue. The replacement has been in my car using the exact same setup at 4ohms in a sealed ~1 cu ft box for about 2 months now and no issue. for the $45 i paid for it onsale on amazon, im not bitchin too bad.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's cheap and it gets the job done. What else do you really need?

  • @BassFace1776
    @BassFace1776 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Out of all of these i actually like the sound of the infinity the best. Skar ix if i need to get rid of an empty sub box 😂. But the ix is a fine sub for dirt cheap. Most people would be surpised by either in 3.5 cu ft tuned to 35hz.

  • @gabrielkardos4342
    @gabrielkardos4342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey. Ever thought about PA systems? Specifically, folded horn enclosures?

  • @BaddDukk
    @BaddDukk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Junk
    Junk
    Junk
    Junk
    Blaupunkt
    Infinity
    Choice looks straightforward to me

  • @sethdahlberg7136
    @sethdahlberg7136 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wilson audio labs youtube channel tested the blaupunkt GBW120 it blew at 950 watts being hooked up to a 2000 watt amp. It was a few years ago so quality definitely could have gone down.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this particular case since I was using a smaller amplifier I ended up with less power.

  • @TheLionAndTheLamb777
    @TheLionAndTheLamb777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My friend has four of those 12" Infinity Primus ported and they shake his whole room. He has them not even on a lot of power 600w RMS total / 150w RMS per sub.

  • @paulgood2218
    @paulgood2218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best $50 12s i have tryed is the belva 2 ohm 12. And the recoil audio echo 12 . The recoil is i think $54 now but most the time goes uunder $50

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I tested a Belva in the $35 shootout video, I must have missed the Recoil when I was buying these.

    • @paulgood2218
      @paulgood2218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DIYAudioGuyI like these budget shoot outs. Thanks for the video I have bought and played with every one of these over the last few years just messing around.

  • @jeremyf420
    @jeremyf420 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i ran the old school crutchfields BOGO infinity reference subs rated 300 rms 1200 peak 2 12s in a large ported box i built and i ran them on 1200 watts at 2 ohms for ever they out beat ppls very expensive systems people couldnt believe it. it was the box i loved it

    • @jeremyf420
      @jeremyf420 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ps anytime ive had a infinity speaker blow up they replaced them no questions asked crutchfield that is

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Cool

  • @JR-yr8xm
    @JR-yr8xm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can never go wrong with Infinity.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I noticed that there's another version of this subwoofer that does not have the crazy cone. That one's retailing for double the price of this one. Looks to be the exact same driver other than the color.

  • @enzofiero2924
    @enzofiero2924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a joke putting the "Skarbage" in first over the Infinity. . How much did they pay you for that? 😅

  • @Scandinavian_Pride
    @Scandinavian_Pride 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was pretty bummed with the Pyle 15" dvc 2000wP 1000wR. I put it on my 3200.1D Cobalt Orion. After break-in, it started popping at about the 4 hour mark. The Orion I purchased in 2015 with 2x 12" Kicker comp which lasted about 6 months and they locked up.

  • @Dabenport
    @Dabenport 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For a budget sub option I went with the JBL basspro 12(was 200$ shipped on sale)

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is that an all-in-one set that includes the amplifier?

    • @Dabenport
      @Dabenport 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy yep

  • @slickwillybudgetking
    @slickwillybudgetking 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soundstream BXW-124 @ $59 imo is the current budget king, Deaf Bonce machete lite s also close in performance and cost.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like I need to do a $60 or $75 shootout next.

  • @nighttow8780
    @nighttow8780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to point out that the NVX NSW-1xx-V3's release is imminent. The V2 of this series was quite impressive for a 45.00 subwoofer. The V3 is sure to impress.

    • @nighttow8780
      @nighttow8780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't drop the infinity from the test, retest the Infiniti to confirm the results.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've got some other stuff planned for the infinity.

    • @nighttow8780
      @nighttow8780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy I cannot wait. I would like to know if the Infiniti really did outperform the others. I understand it's probably a data error due to the fact that the curve is exactly the same as the curve on the others, but it would be super cool to know for sure

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nighttow8780 the most logical explanation for the massive difference is an error on my part.

  • @RealRandomReview
    @RealRandomReview 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what are the sounds quality and DB rankings? I rarely mess with the terminals and don't care too much about what type they are.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sound quality is subjective and you can see the SPL # in the video.

  • @lemon777r
    @lemon777r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what subwoofer do you think has the best performance, build quality/value/bang for buck and sound quality for around $200? I was looking at the new ultimax ii series by dayton, but my friend swears by skar for that price range. I had a dayton HO12 in one of my old cars and thought it sounded good too, but was wondering if there were better options in the price range.

  • @mattm2684
    @mattm2684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a super pro I've been running a rf punch 500 on it for 20 yrs. And I've ran twice the rated power with a Ppi Pc amp on a Pyramid Super Blue subs. IT'S ALL ABOUT CLEAN POWER AND BOX DESIGNED FOR EACH SUB

  • @TripleOgTripleOgTriple
    @TripleOgTripleOgTriple 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did any of the subs have a higher recommended tuning range than the box is tuned to?

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not that I'm aware of.

  • @RobotUnderground
    @RobotUnderground 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Justin, that looks like the BassWave ported box by Recoil Audio. Is that the case?

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Patrick! It's an old Skar box that I tested out several years ago. Hope you are doing well.

  • @iRelacsashon
    @iRelacsashon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you mess with NVX. They're on the same level as SKAR. IMHO.... But I would love it if you could include NVX in your testing. It seems like er'one is ignoring a quality brand. I'm working on my 2nd NVX build. The 1st, a Nissan Rogue w/2-12's. Now I'm going ALL NVX including the epicenter, w/ 4-8's in an F-150. '04. I just want to see how they fare next to their peers.
    Thanks for your time. ✌🏾

  • @berthagen387
    @berthagen387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pyramid is the originator of the fake power ratings. The old pyramid pro amps were decent though.

  • @richardbates2367
    @richardbates2367 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a boss audio cxx10 chaos subwoofer after break in warm up ive had it 5 years and it is in a pyle pqblw10 square bandpass box and still sounds good so i really can't complain about that it is used as home audio subwoofer, Kenwood excelon kc av505 home theater surround sound receiver 500 watt

  • @BassRacerx
    @BassRacerx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    need a budget sub enclosure shootout!

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Belva makes a Marine rated 12" sub with 100 oz. magnet and 400W RMS for $80. Belva is the Sonic Electronics "House Brand" and is pretty solid. Personally, I think Skar makes the best "entry" level sub for under $50 depending on pricing and sales. Which Skar has had an extra 15% off everything sale going on for over a year now.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/9xTCAtZOD9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-bEG6C8PK6nmFVYg

  • @keijojaanimets819
    @keijojaanimets819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Plastic might resonate less?🤔

  • @jasoncaine2600
    @jasoncaine2600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm running one kfc-xw1241hp for the moment
    the two 12's @ 2ohm I wanted are on backorder

  • @scottkellogg8145
    @scottkellogg8145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was looking at the deaf bonce ml12

  • @MAD450r2
    @MAD450r2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You ever test mcm electronics subs? 15 inch 4 ohm model pro 55- 3234. They are 200watt rms 92db

  • @Grommet2007
    @Grommet2007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Infinity sub also has the added advantage of the folded edge around the cone - this makes the cone significantly stronger, reducing cone flex and resulting distortion. It's been a feature of Infinity subwoofer drivers for years (I still have my Infinity Kappa 122.7Ws from a previous build in storage).

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool!

    • @greenbassboosts8872
      @greenbassboosts8872 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That infinity I believe is an old design. Very similar to a sub called the 120.3es or something like that. Used to be rated 250w though. Blew one up on my other channel for fun because nobody bought it lol

  • @mrpep1976
    @mrpep1976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first sub in 1992 were the super pro plus and they actually sounded good. Back then Pyle, MTX were actually respectable subs. The big dogs were RF, KICKER, JL. You had money if you them.

  • @donnie4191
    @donnie4191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Owned a pair of Super Pros back around 1990ish. Except for the the push terminals, they haven't changed a bit in over 30 years! My buddy had a pair of Super pro "free air" red cone 10s in a box and they were surprisingly loud. Loud enough that the RCMP confiscated his amp 😂.

  • @Taino137
    @Taino137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put 2 of the Infinitys in my son's car with a 800 watt SSL amp, and i think they sound at par.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is what I expected.

  • @lassediscovers1813
    @lassediscovers1813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That Infinity looks exactly like the Jbl cs1214!! A nice classic if you ask me👍
    Have you ever tried Dayton Audio dsp-lf before? It has a neat room correction feature👍
    I'm using mine in the car😁 Thanks for another nice video

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been running that Dayton DSP for quite a while! I'm very happy with it.

    • @lassediscovers1813
      @lassediscovers1813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy It's a hidden gem👍 Do a review on it?

    • @douglaskodaseet4609
      @douglaskodaseet4609 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Infiniti and JBL are owned by Harman International which is the parent company of them plus Mark Levinson and Harman Kardon

    • @RSx94
      @RSx94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had a CS1214 around 9 years ago and it was a solid budget sub

  • @trevorchuchmuch9369
    @trevorchuchmuch9369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want a amm meter cause I’m running a sound stream 3k tested by big d and 2 of them plastic subs (sister brand pyramid) 2 x12” dual vc 4 wired into 1ohm and I’m impressed I can bump em till I smell them and then back off there held up well although no where near there ratings the plastic basket well that was wierd

  • @Nordgrinder
    @Nordgrinder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:45 that is a stamped steel frame (not a cast frame).

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I misspoke. It even says steal in my script

  • @MAD450r2
    @MAD450r2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is these rating per coil, or do they mean in total between both coils?

  • @howmit6361
    @howmit6361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @00:46 Stamped Frame 🙂

  • @yaboiidrew3930
    @yaboiidrew3930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a skar SVR 10inch and it was better than the EVL in all honesty because the EVL tore itself apart. The SVR got real low and was strong asf for one single 10 (I beat the hell out of it and still looked brand new…after breaking it in ofc) it was in a band pass by itself and ppl thought I had 2 10s. was on a 1200w amp

  • @2011joser
    @2011joser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pyle has turned into an unfortunately accurate name for that brand’s products.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's been that way for decades.

    • @Bradimus1
      @Bradimus1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They always were a Pyle.

    • @2011joser
      @2011joser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bradimus1 not at the very beginning in the 80’s. I owned a set then that performed very well but they began their decline soon after.

    • @Bradimus1
      @Bradimus1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2011joser I have never in my life saw any product from Pyle I'd call good. Always - Budget or bad. But that's true of all the brands in this test other than Infinity.

    • @2011joser
      @2011joser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bradimus1 I’m old enough and have been in the hobby long enough to have seen most of these brands at their peaks . Pyramid was always cheap even though they tried briefly to step up.

  • @Clint3571
    @Clint3571 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Black Friday deal of the JBL CX 1200 is hard to top at $40.

  • @anthonybrown6143
    @anthonybrown6143 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a curious question for you Sir. Can component inline crossovers be wired together for a lower ohm load?

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a great question, try to tune into the live show on Monday night at 7:30 central time and we will try to answer it.

    • @anthonybrown6143
      @anthonybrown6143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy will do!

  • @AjaxSkye
    @AjaxSkye 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skar has always been my go to for budget audio Ive tried many, none of them have pleased me as much as skar. I dont get all the hate.

  • @Scandinavian_Pride
    @Scandinavian_Pride 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blaupunkt (in my experience) had some nice amps back in the 90's....

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember those days. Completely different company now.

  • @MTBReconnaissanceQC
    @MTBReconnaissanceQC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LMAO ... Just watched this video two weeks AFTER I bought two pyle 15s 😂. I broke them in and pushed them quite a bit hooked on a Yorkville power amp rated at around 5-600w rms to each. They did hold up fine for now but they might be on borrowed time. No worries its just for fun and testing since I usually run pro p.a. subwoofers 😋

  • @wesryan693
    @wesryan693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm looking for a smaller sound system prefer to have 2 main speakers and one sub 8 or 10” with a amp? Any suggestions . Ohh it for my moped. I won't buy a hawk system had 4 and all died within 2 weeks

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't have any experience with motorcycle or moped systems so I don't make recommendations for them.

  • @bobdodge3171
    @bobdodge3171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id be more for actual power handling. Sound. Than push terminals.. because push terminals don't make the sub sound better or handle tons more power. Just convenience.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing wrong with that.

  • @ancap1065
    @ancap1065 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that super pro by pyramid is the same since i bought one in 1994

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You my friend are old school.

  • @jermainehodge1750
    @jermainehodge1750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So is that better than the Orion HCCA???

  • @gbodytoys
    @gbodytoys 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a feeling Skar would win. They suddenly provide a good product for the price and the marketing has been amazing.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The infinity is probably a better sub, but the Skar has more features.

    • @enzofiero2924
      @enzofiero2924 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DIYAudioGuyWho cares about features if doesn't improve the sub or the sound? 😂

  • @williamblackwell9558
    @williamblackwell9558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Infinity is the best by far in this group. Infinity put the cost of Push Terminals into making a better sub. At this price point, Push Terminals are a gimmick.

    • @CarsandCats
      @CarsandCats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've needed push terminals as I only connect my subwoofers ONCE when they go into the box.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair point.

    • @williamblackwell9558
      @williamblackwell9558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CarsandCats LOL

  • @joeyholthusen6495
    @joeyholthusen6495 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pioneer, Kenwood, JVC, ect...

  • @davidtimmerman3121
    @davidtimmerman3121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i think it's unrealistic to expect ANY sub to perform it's best in a random enclosure. i know it'd be a lot of work, but putting each sub in it's recommended enclosure is the only fair comparison.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm going to disagree with you, the realistic thing to do is to put it in the type of enclosure that the end user is most likely to put it in. Most people are not going to build a custom enclosure for a $50 subwoofer. They're looking for a $50 box and a $50 amp to go with it.

    • @davidtimmerman3121
      @davidtimmerman3121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is an odd response from someone who calls himself the DIYAudio guy. i suspect people who watch this channel are also DIYers (as i am), and would want to build the box that would get them the most bang for the buck.😃@@DIYAudioGuy

    • @davidtimmerman3121
      @davidtimmerman3121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MotoAtheist or world champions🤔

    • @davidtimmerman3121
      @davidtimmerman3121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotoAtheist exactly my point! prefab boxes suck.

    • @davidtimmerman3121
      @davidtimmerman3121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      plus, i wonder what the manufacturers would say. i'm guessing they want their stuff evaluated in the correct box.

  • @Koolj2000
    @Koolj2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the gravity 12 sub

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have no experience with it.

  • @tmetito3535
    @tmetito3535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pyle used to make better woffers dont know what happen to them

  • @boydw1
    @boydw1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skar DDX12-D2

  • @fishrrelaxing9361
    @fishrrelaxing9361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Emmm for testing subs like this.. I think a sealed 1 cube net box would be more appropriate..

  • @el_conquistador192
    @el_conquistador192 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't believe the Pyramid is a subwoofer. Pretty sure it is a woofer. The box didn't look much from the past one I purchased and they were woofers. Those have actually been around 25+ years, with what looks like little to no changes. The box in your video said 2" high temp coil woofer. Although they forgot the " .

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably so.

    • @greenbassboosts8872
      @greenbassboosts8872 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a shame they're built so cheap because they look nice. Gotta go with the lanzars for the classic black paper cone look

  • @grayhelium513
    @grayhelium513 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is blast subwoofer american made

  • @cheeky50862
    @cheeky50862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video..... If the amp itself was clipping then that's a speaker killer

    • @cheeky50862
      @cheeky50862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotoAtheist dude actually said the amp was clipping 😅👌🏻

    • @cheeky50862
      @cheeky50862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MotoAtheist 12:30

    • @cheeky50862
      @cheeky50862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotoAtheist and do you truly understand what clipping is and how it affects the sinewave and what happens at the clipped portion of it?
      And what clipping does to a speaker coil?

  • @thomaszarbo9535
    @thomaszarbo9535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was fun to watch! You didn't kill those subs Justin... you just put them out of their misery. :)

    • @thomaszarbo9535
      @thomaszarbo9535 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...and I don't think the box type had much to do with any of them blowing... I don't think any of them died due to over-excursion did they? Just too much current in the voice coils as you approached their "rated" wattage. A different box isn't going to change that.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      40 hz test tone, so well above the tuning frequency of the enclosure.

  • @elcochino8139
    @elcochino8139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im about to run a 3 12" system. 2 RF P3s and a P2 in the middle. Gonna run the P3s off an MTX RT500D and the P2 off a monoblock P300X1. Im hoping this shit hits

  • @Nickgarces-ef7nc
    @Nickgarces-ef7nc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gothic audio power acoustic should have been talked about. It’s one of the best budget subs in the game

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was not able to find one of those that met the $50 threshold for this video.

  • @zachjennings1443
    @zachjennings1443 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very glad I found your channel here, you are very informative. Appreciate you, and I am now subbed. Thanks

  • @johndyson4109
    @johndyson4109 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like to run ANY audio below 4-Ohms.. When you get down to 2 or 1-Ohm. I believe the sound quality dissipates rather quickly even in bass ranges.. Plus the AMPERAGE draw gets MORONISH @ 2-Ohms or lower.. FOR THE PRICE, I love my Rockville PBG-18 subs @ 8-Ohms.. Rated @ 2000-watts.. F.R is 35Hz.-4Khz.. 98db sensitivity.. 130-oz. mags.. I tested them @ 20Hz. and they responded by shaking my windows all over the house.. I run my 4 PBG's with 2 RPA-16 class H amps.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would bet that in a double blind test that nobody could tell the difference between 8,4,2 ohms, especially after you level match the amplifiers.

  • @octymocty132
    @octymocty132 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought infinity was a subdivision of Harmon karmen . I do miss my infinity perfect 10 that thumped and bumped all day no issues

  • @josephsaucedo8691
    @josephsaucedo8691 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't seen any thing pyramid sense the mid to late 90s didn't even know that they were still around as long as you don't put a hole bunch of power to them they were to bad better than stock lol😊

  • @msh6865
    @msh6865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No mention of response frequency or any comparison of specs? Impossible to make a determination based on the few tests shown here.
    My money is on the Infinity when all specs are compared.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you completely miss the part where I ran sweeps and measured theme with REW?

    • @msh6865
      @msh6865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIYAudioGuy no, I saw them but, I need to know at frequencies each subs roll off at how quickly. For example, my experience with those budget Skar subs is they don't do very well below 40Hz. The Fs of each sub will tell us more about how well they handle deeper bass. SPL doesn't tell the whole story.

  • @Silentroller93
    @Silentroller93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That “1200 watt” boss sub probably pairs well with the “1100 watt” boss mono amp. 200w rms sub best case scenario lol

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No doubt

  • @brianbdawg3059
    @brianbdawg3059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rockford fosgates are 160 and up for a 12

  • @HuntJ62
    @HuntJ62 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should've checked out CT sounds

  • @RobertBoston-n4d
    @RobertBoston-n4d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Total Power = Flames shoot out the hole of the magnet, the cone shoot 3 ft in the air and the speaker manages one last BRRZZZRRT!! 🤣

  • @oceanapps3994
    @oceanapps3994 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for good information.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching.

  • @Dale-ys3zj
    @Dale-ys3zj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The infinity looks a lot these 35 buck pioneers from Walmart and the bluapunkt looks a lot like the gothics I have my spark

  • @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
    @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldn't the best sub be the one that sounds the best, or hits the lowest, etc? It seems like this was just a torture test, not a best sub test.

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, it kind of was just a torture test.

  • @AshyLarryTM
    @AshyLarryTM 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Kicker CompC would have easily passed these tests with flying colors and kept on bumpin.

  • @LatvianVideo
    @LatvianVideo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Too high temperature means that you can burn the coil easily

  • @jonathanginofilippi
    @jonathanginofilippi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plastic basket is fine

  • @yahiaborsali
    @yahiaborsali 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the best 12 inch subwoofer under 120 dolar

    • @DIYAudioGuy
      @DIYAudioGuy  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amzn.to/3vFhkDs

  • @leoncreary6628
    @leoncreary6628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good tests