Gable Tostee Case | Murder by Balcony? | Death of Warriena Wright
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the Gable Tostee case. Tostee was tried and acquitted in connection with the death of Warriena Wright Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: / drgrande
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Our cacti are named too. I didn't name them, although I do speak with them every once in a while.
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If I ever get a goat, I’ll name it Einstein because Einstein was the GOAT.
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That's adorable!
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The audio tapes of her screaming to be let go and him taunting her are absolutely terrifying and leave no doubt the guy is totally sick.
It sounded like a normal intense drunk night with a boyfriend to me. Not saying that’s ideal, but she felt comfortable still being aggressive in her fight to stay in his apartment. She’s still hollering as her voice becomes muffled by being on the other side of the door. She then did what any stubborn drunk girl would do (and I speak with confidence born of experience, which im neither proud of nor ashamed of), which is try to climb down. He went to let her cool off so they could continue arguing when he let her back in, and she fell trying to get off the balcony while drunk.
@@animula6908 hollering? She was yelling while she died falling down 14 feet..She didn't feel comfortable this guy was choking her.She was saying no so many times out of fear for her life..for all we know he could have put her on the other side of the balkany with her only two hands hanging on that's why she was saying no.was she drunk acting up yes but did she deserve being choked and and die falling 14ft very graphic no.With no video footage this guy could have manipulated everything his way to look innocent he knew he was being audio recorded.
@@animula6908 This was their first date. Still it is not ok at any point in a relationship. It doesn't matter who started it or how much alcohol is involved. I'm heartbroken that this is normal first date stuff now. Please, if you are in a violent relationship or know somebody who is please get help. We need to stop normalizing domestic violence.
I don't care who did what when. She was begging and pleading to leave with a gut wrenching voice. For his own safety if she was being so aggressive, why not let her go? It sounded honestly like he was getting off on watching her beg. Instead he held her hostage.
If you listen to the entire audio (also: don't. It'll haunt you) It sounds like he put her on the outside of the balcony so she was trying to climb back onto the balcony as she screamed in terror. If she was on the inside of the balcony she would have been pounding on the glass ranch slider yelling to be let back in.
Other girls that he took to that apartment had previously been freaked out by him picking them up and 'pretending' to put them over the balcony; he had also asked on the bodybuilders forum how long people thought a woman would be able to hold onto a glass balcony wall before losing their grip; and he had also taken a photo from the balcony on his phone and drawn a pretend chalk outline of a fallen body.
There's a lot about this case that is sus
Just because she screams in horror doesn’t mean he murdered her. He restrained her because she was the one taunting if you listened to full audio you’d know that she was being crazy. The door to the patio was opened I’m not saying it was right to put her out there but he clearly shuts and locks patio door to keep her from his apartment. She chose what she chose and earlier was having orgasms thinking about jumping off the balcony to go to sleep! Whether she jumped or was trying to climb to balcony below regardless it was her drunk decision to do so!
I listened to the recording a few years ago, and the thing that sticks in my mind is how scared she sounded as she repeated "no no no". We only have Tostee's word for it that he was locking her out onto the balcony at that moment. The recording sounds more sinister to me.
All we get from the recording is that she's slurring, she's angry at him, and then she's scared of him. Everything else is from his retelling of events.
Yes! It seems so obvious to me when listening to the whole recording that in those moments when she's screaming no, he is... trying to force her. She keeps screaming please, NO, you said I could go home etc. He says " I did, but now you've been a bad girl." WHAT MAN SAYS THAT WHEN FEARING FOR HIS LIFE?! She goes from being belligerent and demanding her phone back to terrified and screaming no, to "silence" (choking sounds) to saying she's sorry (as he yells at her to get the fuck up) and begging to go again. He was holding her down doing *something* while she screamed NO 33 times, then silent? Then saying sorry and begging to leave? IT MAKES NO SENSE unless he was doing something that terrified her from that moment on. And that's when he locks her on the balcony. I just can't believe he got away with everything. I firmly believe he knew where her phone was because he hid it. She didn't want to be there and so he hid her phone to get her to stay/be trapped. She gets angry and does the rock throwing thing. He knows he's recording himself so he pretends to be passive and helpful until she pisses him off too much and he loses it. He was choking her. She feared for her life after those moments. This is all so horrifying.
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I dont believe he knew where her phone was because he asked her whats her number to call her and find the phone.
@@EmRebJac Thank you! finally somebody with common sense.
She sounded mad and frustrated to me, but the clincher is that she can still be heard hollering at him as her voice becomes muffled. She was alive and belligerent when he last shut the door on her. Because she was angry and drunk she tried to climb down, but fell. Tragic and stupid accident but I can think of 7 times I did equally stupid things while drinking with guys I liked.
@@animula6908 actually when He last shut the door she had told him I just want to go home..I think he definetly put her on the other side of the balcony only her two hands hanging on before he shut the door.That's why she was yelling for her life.Yes she was drunk acting up but she didn't deserve to be killed off a balkany & her body cracked in half very graphic.She was afraid after he choked her and wanted to go home..He didn't have no compassion to just call the cops and put her out the apartment.We will never know what really happened without any video footage we can only speculate.
'His personality problems were so severe he was partially disabled ... ill equipped to deal with people socially' ... Yup sounds like a typical tinder date.
How did he sleep with so many people then? Had to be a bit of a smooth talker.
Makes you question who installed those morals in him..
@@luckydog5200 or just easy people to get with. As dr drew says all addicts find each other. This goes for sex addicts as well.
With you, yeah 👍👍
In his defense, he's AUSTRALIAN! 🤣
Private Hudson seems to be an honorable chap.
Lol.
I was just going to say he looks like a punk with the purple hair 💜💜👌🏼👌🏼
Here I was calling him “inconspicuous cactus” 😂
Very orderly.
Game over man!
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I'm glad you are having someone take care of ur plants. I periodically use leftover coffee or tea to water/fertilize mine. I learned that from my maternal grandma but I would have to look up the links to supportive evidence I found years ago.
He called the cactus a troublemaker!
That was adorable.
Laught so hard at this, ❤️
I love you called him pvt. Hudson - state of the bada^s art! He was my favorite character from all the movies ever! That is when the movies still knew how to create atmosphere of dread, introduce likable characters you cared about, and the movie was well paced, not too quick like today - action, action and action - nor too slow. Aliens, what a good movie!
Yes, Dr. Grande. You are so adorable indeed,
- Towards the end of the recording, he "finds" her phone in his pocket. That's why it was "missing." She wanted to leave, but he took her phone so she couldn't and she was unable to call for help, too.
- He states that he forced her onto the balcony, but he can be heard in the car with his dad saying she walked onto the balcony, which obviously wasn't true... He hadn't gotten his story straight yet.
Right...but the end of the recording you can hear him take her to the balcony and close the door. You can hear her voice muffle as shes the other side of the door and his breathing clear as he's inside.
You continue to hear her muffled and away from him. Then after her screem you hear him walking over and opening the door. He clearly didn't throw or push her.
@Llama Treee - what? So,it is ok to send a person to her death because she is not behaving well? Who the hell are you?
@Llama Treee wow, no. That wouldn't be justified. That would very simply be assault. I need you to understand that.
@Llama Treee in many cases it is and the scenario which you described definitely is one of those cases. They hit me first isn't actually a legal defence for assault. I just want you to know that so you don't use someone else's perceived misbehaviour as an excuse to grievously injure or murder that person.
@Llama Treee I'm not talking about his actions, I'm talking about your actions. You're proposing that he should have beat her unconscious (implying that's what you would do in that situation) and unless she posed a current threat to his safety (and if he was able to push her out on the balcony then she did not) he's not allowed to beat her and the defence would not stand up in court.
I want you to understand that so that when you get your feelings hurt and you want to take your rage out on someone then you understand that the legal standard for a self defence claim is actually pretty high. She started it and was a 'trashcan' isn't going to cut the mustard. So when you do enact that sad little power fantasy you're clearly cooking up over there on someone, just know that no-one in the legal system will have your back and you will go to prison.
If people are hitting you, call the police. People aren't allowed to hit you, but you're not allowed to hit them either. Do you see how that's fair?
Dr.Grande talking about the plants is so wholesome! Lol
I especially love that he names them!
Tiny cactus 🌵😍
Hope he repots them. They appear to be in the containers he bought them in... Methinks private Hudson needs pot that conveys his prickly nature and stoicism
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I know right
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IKR!!! I have watched the plant ending four times & grinned my head off
Bean???
My niece we call bean...pretty sure she is sweeter & cuter, as are 🐶🥺 puppies....😆 🤣 LOL
But, I am a long-time fan of Dr. Grande.
Calm down fangirl
@@Meilk27 nope that’s your own insecurity showing. It was said in nothing but absolute love for his gentleness and kind nature. Something which is refreshing to see when his topics are usually more serious.
Take that negativity elsewhere.
I listened to to the recording of this and was just so confused as to how two people who had only just met were acting so utterly insane.i know they were drunk but still,it was so damned weird. And the fact that he recorded it all too was strange.
He was just covering his ass, and good job he did otherwise he'd be in jail for murder.
@Infinite Possibilities Absolutely and nothing suspicious about it at all, this dudes freedom depended on it.
@Jose Stickman Yeah, stuff like this makes me glad I've never been part of this tacky pickup culture...
Homemade alcohol hits different, mate...
@@holdtightadele8017 The police report said he wasn't on the balcony when she fell. It made it highly unlike he killed her and was rightly acquitted.
It's so thoughtful that you have purchased all those plants to make your viewers happy, especially since you're not experienced with them. Your humor is always great as is your analysis. I'm addicted to your videos. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Dr Grande is so good he treats my anxiety just by talking about murder and plants.
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Omg, me too!!!
I have watched for a couple of years. I don’t think they all last that long.
I’m not sure why either person kept prolonging each other’s terrible company.
*gotta love a guy who calls his lawyer instead of 911.
That’s guilt
He hid her phone in his pocket, so when she tried to leave she couldn’t find her phone. She knew (or at least had a feeling) that he had hidden it from her. She was in a strange city in a different country in the middle of the night. I’d be reluctant to leave without my phone too. And I’d be furious about it. Add in that he seemed to be deliberately getting her incredibly wasted (likely in an attempt to have more sex, but it backfired and made her more angry) and I don’t think I’d be making the most sound decisions.
@@Annie_Annie__ she is what I call the Black Cat with her comes bad omen pretty much how he made her that Manic Frantic and Mad Crazy Psychosis to Wack and Smack herself is fascinating
its triple zero is Oz not 911, just for interest sake.
@@truthsocialmedia Regarding BPD, keep in mind that women tend to be diagnosed with that and men tend to be diagnosed with ASPD or NPD, even when they display the same behaviours.
Very interesting to have your analysis on this case . I followed it alot at the time ( as she was from New Zealand too ) and absolutely think he should have been found guilty of murder or manslaughter. Unbelievable that the jury didn't do this .
Tostee's gf at the time of the trial made fb posts about how Wright was a horrible person. She then ended up leaving Tostee and apologising to the family saying there were things she 'didn't know'
His GF at the time still supports him and attacks his new girlfriends. I think she still wants to get him back.
Dr. Grande's power increases with each plant addition. Love the setup
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Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anyone in this video; only speculating about what could be happening on a balcony like this.
Ha!
@@spiritmatter1553 Don't be sorry! It's never 'too soon'. Except that time I told a New York City friend that the Taliban were willing to exchange Bin Laden for Britney Spears and a Swiffer Wet-Jet.
stop 🤣🤣🤣
Just a reminder, your response is now so old and tired from being repeated in the comments of so many Dr Grande videos, it is now associated with a lack of imagination and humour.
If you listen to the actual recording of this
Your heart will break for this poor girl,
She was terrified, I feel so much for her family.
She probably should have left one of the times he let her instead of continuing to attack him.
@@TheMattTrakker he had her pH. She should of left if she could, and called the police. I have a feeling he gave her very strong alcohol and she was not able to leave . What he was saying for the recording and what was happening I believe were different.
@@juliefall2892 You mean they both chose to drink very strong alcohol
I just love the way Dr. Grande talks. He uses the same calm, soothing, reasonable tone to talk about mentally unstable people, mental disorders and crimes that he uses to talk about his new green friends and to make some very witty remarks.
You seems to be a very pleasant person, Dr. Grande. I came here initially about your insights in mental health and crimes but is really nice to see you more relaxed and open about trivial things. Love your channel 🙂
I've been searching for right therapist for years. I wish he was my therapist.
Could you please name the other plant OCEAN? (I figured “Openness To Experience, Conscientiousness, Extroversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism” would just be too much).
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And another one CANOE (Conscientiousness, Agreeableness, Neuroticism, Openness To Experience, and Extroversion)
When you already have a lawyer to contact, I'm guessing you're no stranger to criminal behavior.
I think it was daddy's lawyer. But yea it wasn't his first introduction to the law.
That is what I thought!
Probably on speed dial!
@@debbiemilam2204 Also, it's like 3:00AM and he's expecting the lawyer to pick up. Maybe Lawyer has a special ringtone just for him.
@@jbinmd
Yes I forgot about the time. There's all kind of information under TH-cam about this. The guy recorded for 3 hours I didn't want to listen to all of it LOL see you later
It’d be cool if Dr. Grande teamed up with That Chapter for an episode. Start with TC taking us through a true crime case followed by Dr Grande explaining the psychology of the suspect.
Can you imagine the jokes they would come up with together?! 🤓🤩😍
Omg yes!!! They should definitely give it a goo 😀
Anyone else feel conflicted because your 2 favorite TH-cam channels are Dr. Grande and Behavior Panel?
Omg that would be amazing!
Considering the fact he knew the events as they happened were being recorded he very well “staged” what he said to her whilst doing the opposite. She refused to leave accusing him of taking her phone ( he had previous convictions) so he stole her phone hence the fight.
The main issue that perhaps has been missed is her 31 “No’s”so why was she calling or yelling out “No, No…….” so many times? I consider this the biggest clue to what he was really doing to her & he avoided saying anything knowing it was being recorded. Perhaps she grabbed hold of the telescope not to hit him with it but to grab onto something as she fought him, knowing what he was going to do. Sounds pretty clear to me he was either dragging or carrying her out to the balcony then threw or hoisted her over the balcony, (previously threatened by him) closing the door behind him, muffling her screams which came a bit later as she probably clung to the railing before letting go. Think about it, the 31 times she called out “No” is clear evidence he committed the crime, she pleaded to go home but he ignored her, his story of the nearest door being the balcony door makes no sense considering his size & size of the apartment, being a body builder probably using steroids, his hatred for women is demonstrated by his lifestyle & inability to be in a loving relationship. He was cunning in staging his words & actions knowing it was being recorded, had no need to call an ambulance as he knew she would have died & needed time to figure out his story hence the call to his lawyer & refusal to talk to police. If he had been innocent then he would have had no reason not to ring an ambulance, ring his lawyer or stay silent with the police. He bought time & even owned up in the phone call to his Dad saying he was “……..ed” another admission of guilt, why would an innocent person say that. His actions after the murder speak louder than his staged words.
Absolutely agree! I felt so sad and sick listening to the recording of her screaming no and just hearing the absolute fear and desperation in her voice 💔with that audio and the witness account of how she was positioned hanging off the balcony he obvious hoisted her over…so sad when she asked to just go home and he said “I would but you’ve been a bad girl”…also they way he kept telling his dad he didn’t cause it or throw her off or push her…screams guilty to me. I hope one day he can be charged with something regarding this crime. Such an avoidable and tragic murder
That’s exactly what I was thinking it was all staged and he was able to get away with it how many times he got out of trouble in his past he was used to calling his lawyer to get him out of trouble can’t believe he got away with it how stupid they were not to bring up the stage aspect of the recording nobody could see what was really going on
It’s the recording for me. He had it set up so that if anything happened he had a recording slanted the way he would like his defense to be portrayed. I’m sure he recorded all of his “dates” like that.
Agreed. He put her over. So truly awful.
I agree.Thankyou for speaking up for this poor girl. He was so arrogant and disrespectful to women. His parents were arrogant and disrespectful. john (Australia)
Another woman he met on tinder after this case, called the cops on him as well. He scared her. From what I've briefly looked up, seems he has been banned from Tinder.
You would think a woman would stay far away from him after hearing about the case. If she even know who he was of course.
@@itsjustnopinionok agreed. Though i think she either didnt realise who he was til he arrived, or, because he was found innocent, have him the benefit of the doubt til he started to behave oddly. And scared her.
Looks like in Aug 2020 they let him back. Don't know if that was before or after the one you mention. I don't see anything dated after reinstatement.
He changed his name..she may not have known at all
That’s like shutting the barn door after the horse has got out
I'm amazed he wasn't successfully prosecuted for some form of crime, locking her out on the balcony in her state was ludicrous, I don't care how much alcohol was involved she should have escorted out the front door.
I think his dad is involved in the 'justice system' somehow...
And she said “no” 30 times... pretty clear she didn’t want to go out there.....
Yeah. I think they are rich, and he have gotten into trouble before. The main reason they probably charge him for her murder, was because the autopsy couldn't reveal her actual cause of death due to the fall.
His family is rich, they live in a gated community. So, yeah, that's likely why he's gotten off the hook for what he has done in his miserable life.
Sounds strange,seems like he had connections or his father. Young lady died , seems to me he is a danger to society.
Gable Tostee, now known as Eric Thomas, has been involved in TWO MORE similar incidents since this one with Warriena Wright!.
He has also allegedly complained that the above case messed up his life.
Dr Grande, would like an update/revision please!
What?! What else?
@@meghanhixon3241 google his name, a few articles come up
Since when is DUI a similar incident to involuntary manslaughter?
Get your life together.
@@emusaurus "Police sources say Tostee was with a woman and her 12-year-old daughter at the Legends Hotel in Surfers Paradise about 4.30am on Wednesday when emergency services were called to the building, Sources say the girl called Triple 0 to report that her mother was threatening to jump from the 10th floor hotel room and that Tostee was trying to stop her.
The woman was locked in the hotel room bathroom when police and paramedics arrived, sources said."
Whoa, a name change and further allegations. What whaaaat?
“Private Hudson was a troublemaker and this little cactus looks like he is, too.” 👀💀💀😂😂
Your summary about this case said everything I was thinking. Damn, why are people so trusting of losing control of their faculties and judgment with complete strangers? 😱
Young and dumb
Alcohol 🤷🏻♀️ Worst drug out there but of course...legal.
I heard the recording he made that night. Its chilling as they seem to be having a "good" time and then he turns off the music and things instantly get sinister. Its apparent his victim wanted to leave but he'd hidden her keys, purse and phone and wouldn't give them back. He'd also refused to untie her - when she threatens him she threatens to break his jaw she then demanded to be untied, indicating he was falsely imprisoning her, and the threat was empty. When he's saying certain things its contrived probably because he knows he's recording. I'm convinced he put her on the balcony on the outside of the railings and deliberatley watched her fall- you can here he's breathing hightened at the point were she falls. He'd even threatened to throw her off the balcony when things take a siniater tone. If he genuinely thought she was getting aggressive and out of control he would have not withheld her phone and purse and he would have put her out off his front door not locked her on the balcony. He murdered her and got away with it.
It seems that way. Plus if you look at that picture, you can tell she wasn't having fun at all.
100%
He set it up.
I agree 100% with everything you said
Interesting that I listen to the whole recording twice and the interview also twice and the way you r telling the story it's quite different than what I listened, the doctor mentioned about his issues with personality traits that doesn't help him, very strange case.
He made up his mind to go through with killing her the moment she went inside to use the restroom, and he insults her under his breath. Listen closely and you hear him although he whispers it. Once she came out of the bathroom, the trouble started.
i watch every video just to see Dr Grande crack a smile. he hasn't yet. i'm not giving up hope.
The thumbnail. Ugh. That photo that he took of them together in his apartment. He's looking smug, and she's looking like she thinks she made a horrible mistake by trusting him.
@@Meilk27 when someone dies in your apartment and you’re the only other person present, scrutiny is required.
Someone fucking died. Of course they’re going to rip this evening apart. It should be.
he is innocent she jumped off.
“You seem to be a bit violent, let me make you some food” 🙄🙄🙄
She probably needed a snickers.
LMMFAO!!!
It's probably a good call. At least generally speaking 😅
It works on me every time.
9/10 times food helps me become less violent lol
Love how Dr Grande always takes the viewers’ feedback into account! Now he’s got plants because people said they’d help the background! 🌵 🪴
I always check out your background and take in the little changes you make.
It reminds me of my granddaughter who often moved something from one place to another in my home to see whether I would notice the differences when she was gone. It always made me smile.
Your dry humour is a world treasure.
Why is it cute af that Dr Grande mentioned his cactus 😂😂
He’s painfully adorable...seriously. Lol ❤️♥️ I have the most wholesome crush.
Because he is Open (from the OCEAN acronym) to suggestions & feedback from his supporters. He humbly admitted he knew nothing of plants, but he is willing to learn. He is growing - plant PUN INTENDED! 🌿
I’m not the only one who names their plants!
Nope I thought the same thing.
His comment to his dad about "why does this always happen to me"...makes me sick.
“This might have been the first clue that it was time to end the date” 🤣
When two people are intoxicated and combative the best thing to do is have more alcohol. Yeah that always works out 🤐
😂
There was more about him from his past that I can't recall. I see a different video about this awhile ago.
Well...maybe half the time.
@@ladennayoung2939 You're right. Tostee had several incidents with the police, and ended up doing 6mths in jail for one of them at around the time of the investigation into Wright's death.
Not mentioned here but a witness claimed to have seen Tostee looking down over the balcony, and had heard a scream. And there's the CCTV of him trying to hide from cameras, looking left and right, as he left the apartment building to ... Go and buy a slice of pizza.
Not to mention his being banned from several nightclubs for creeping out young women, and the awful comments he'd posted up online such as referring to some women as "young sluts" and freaking out some other young woman who had been up to his balcony with him. She ran off and that was the end of their date. Yes, on the balcony. Sounds familiar...
@@SY-ok2dq wow. They sure left all of these details out regarding his past indiscretions with women & trouble from the video I saw. I had watched 60 minutes australia special.
You are my favorite podcaster on the internet. So objective, scientific, and funny! I feel that based on what I heard on the tape, that he suspended her on the balcony and she couldn’t hang on. The neighbor saw her hanging with her feet outward, which is a position she wouldn’t be in had she climbed down on her own. Somehow she managed to wriggle around and grab on, which is when she fell. He wasn’t surprised at all that she had fallen off. I would have expected him to run out into the balcony in horror but he didn’t do that. He called his lawyer within 30 seconds and immediately left the premises. He later called her phone (which was in his pocket) to make it appear he was trying to get a hold of her even though he knew she was dead. I do think he should have been convicted. Thanks so much for making this video! I asked so many times and probably annoyed you! 😂❤️
Totally agree with all that. I also found it unsettling how calm his father was during tbeir phone call. Like it wasn't his first Rodeo. There was no shock, no wtf just clear calm instructions. It almost had a "here we go again" type of tone to it.
Don't know why I'm bothering but here goes: "...he suspended her on the balcony..."
How? Tostee was on the other side of a closed door when she fell.
Are you saying Tostee physically lifted Wright over the railing and left her there? Why didn't she climb back over the railing? If she thought Tostee was dangerous, why didn't she leave before that?
"The neighbor saw her hanging with her feet outward, which is a position she wouldn’t be in had she climbed down on her own."
Did the neighbor see Tostee on the balcony at the same time? No? Then what exactly did Tostee do?
@@robertodell9193 There’s a theory that when she was repeating "no" so many times, Tostee was lifting her over the ledge and left her hanging on to the top of the balcony with her arms, back against the ledge, feet dangling.
Then he went back inside and ignored her knowing full well that it wouldn’t take long for her arms to weaken and give out and her to fall to her death.
@@robertodell9193 why don't you take 3 mins and Google it. The neighbour took pictures of the women's legs hanging from his balcony. Not saying he threw her off. But he clearly had no regard for the dangerous location, it's technically imprisonment despite being an open air area. And once she fell he had zero reaction other than to get out, grab some food and call dad to save him.
@@robertodell9193 ok gabe
I love the plants! Now you just need to get a couple of cats to occasionally walk through the shot. 😻
Cats are much easier to take care of than plants, because if you forget to feed or water them they will generally pester you until you do. 😹
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My friend said that my cat ran the house, and I said that I didn't care, because I liked it that he wasn't worried about telling me what he wants.
Thats what dogs do. Cats will find their own food if you forget to feed them.
I have a bengal kitten. He yells at us non stop. My husband tried to have a zoom meeting Tuesday night but all the other people saw were that kittens butthole and "danger beans". Those danger beans are being removed soon btw. I'm hoping it will chill this kitten out a little bit.
This is literally the exact reason i don't keep any living thing that can't remind me to feed it!
I remember this case quite well, it was all over internet back then.
There were articles about him still using tinder after this, under a different name - he has changed his name since legally.
There were other cases involving this individual afterwards, (I guess his tinder use was quite successful) in one case he was staying with a woman and her 12 year old daughter at a hotel - this woman was threatening to jump 10 stories - her daughter called the police and this man apparently tried to stop her mother from jumping. She was taken to a hospital for mental health assessment.
Another woman was also taken to a mental hospital after a date with him.
I guess you have to be mental to go out with him. I would also suggest he moves to a lower floor apartment and only stays at motels from now on.
His whole behaviour is suspect from start too finish, recording their whole evening, having his lawyer on speed dial then going out for pizza when he knows she went off his balcony and will be dead and splattered on the ground, at the very least he's guilty of being the biggest POS that walked the earth.
Women will go through great lengths to defend the actions of a fellow woman who is clearly in the wrong
Agree totally.
He's a rich kid, not shocking he'd call his lawyer.
He just wanted to smash she started acting stupid, really not his problem what happened afterward. Not to be cold, but let’s just be real and not woman sympathizing, he was just trying to make sure he was cleared of guilt.
“Carrying a concealed balcony in the commission of a felony” ☠️😂
Lol, just texted my daughter “in possession of a concealed balcony during the commission of a crime” as we love Dr. Grande’s humour!
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I was taking a swig of coke when he said that and my poor steering wheel took the brunt of that sudden guffaw.
And he says it with a straight face! Lol
I googled the audio he made of that night. 52 mins in he's mentioned the balcony three times. 1hr & 20 mins in sounds like an attempt at anal rape & he's covered her face , as she's protesting but suddenly muffled. She's then unmuffled & says 'No' over 30 times & I want to go home ,3 or 4 times. Then when she's on the balcony she's suddenly silent immediately. No banging on the door, no more screams.
Your posts always give excellent insight as well as offering a deeper understanding of how situations might have unfolded.
It has been great watching your channel grow in popularity as you become more & more comfortable in front of the camera.
Good for you Dr Grande.
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I love how he just casually introduces his plants when the video starts 🪴🤣
I gave away my plants, I think they were relieved.
why does your cactus look like your cute co-presenter?
Lmao
he is actually cute.
lol it really does look like a cute co-presenter xD
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While the yukka is the wayward wild child simmering in the shadows
Wow never expected the Dr to cover this one! Love when the Dr covers Aussie cases 🙌🏽
“Tinder enhanced expressions of interpersonal aggression”
I just can’t! 😆
Both of them sound like a hot mess individually let alone together.
@@AP-xw5px she seemed more loony than just a drunk
@@mc3newsmcocconcierge504 I don’t really see a clear distinction. I’ve known some crazy drunks! I guess it depends which comes first...the crazy or the drunk.
@@heidiho5179 being drunk just opens the cage for whoever is trapped inside.
@@AP-xw5px ah no , she was going abusive on him.
Honestly. The most unbelievable thing about this entire story is the idea that someone in this circus would spend money on a telescope.
I always sleep with my balcony under my pillow.
Lol
I mean, if you sleep outside on the balcony with pillow you wouldn't be wrong 😂
Dr G, your show just get better every time I watch you... which is all the time. I just love you and tell everyone about you. Thank you for being here.
Living on the Gold Coast AU this review is compelling to me. This is a very unfortunate story. I'm surprised he didn't get charged w negligent homocide or something like that.
I'm not diagnosing anything, just speculating 🤔...
I would definitely say the cactus is low on agreeableness, high in conscientiousness, and for sure high on extraversion 🙃😜
ah, yes, I agree.
"None of the uncommon balcony weapon charges would apply to this case" i laughed my ass off
You should have said..."I laughed my blank off!"
The last plant you showed is called a Money tree, don’t over water, indirect sunshine. Want to keep top soil on dry side not to over water. They make a beautiful plant 🌱 enjoy 😊 all your plants Dr. Grande. Thank you 😊
Your comparison of a nightclub to a landfill is surprisingly (and unfortunately) accurate
I love the cactus🌵, but😳✋🏻 I’m just speculating 🧐what could be happening👀 in a situation like this🐸
Oh my GOD!!!!! You did it!!!! I love you! So excited to watch!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Love it when you analyse Australian subjects, and I love your channel, from Brisbane, Australia
Great video.
I've never understood why he locked her out on the balcony, instead of doing the logical thing, and escorting her out via the front door - very strange.
By the way, how does someone creepy and socially inept manage to hook up with 180 women??
*"By the way, how does someone creepy and socially inept manage to hook up with 180 women??"* Because a lot of people are willing to have sex just based on the looks of the other person, even if that person is boring or weird as hell. That's the sad truth.
@@georgezee5173 'people'...you mean 'women'
Right! He also made multiple references to dying on the balcony on the recording beforehand.
Even Dr Grande states in one of his more recent (? I think it was, I’m binging all the older ones too) that despite people wanting to assign deeper meanings to initial relationships physical attraction is the main ingredient for both men and women
the close proximity of a cactus to a moving hand makes me anxious and gives me flashbacks of cactus-related trauma from the past
There are online groups for that. 🌵😜🌵
Some people will always blame alcohol for their behavior when all it does is bring out whom they really are.
That’s not entirely accurate. Alcohol does actually start to impair the brain, one level of complexity at a time.
Lots of people do things drunk that their sober selves would consider a bad idea.
I think what you’re saying is that alcohol brings out the stupidest parts of your unique personality. Which is more accurate. But without alcohol, it’s fair to assume you’d have control over them. And alcohol certainly doesn’t help anything.
Yeah I have to agree as when I drink I still make some pretty good decisions. So maybe they mean when they are way past their toleration. Which would suggest they have a more serious problem.
Sorry I don't agree with you 🙄... That's only an old saying, it's not actually true @FrancescaWilliams .... Alcohol can definitely change your mood along with the person you are, and many many other mind altering moods etc.,.....
Absolute brain dead take.
Also whomst've*
Love the addition of the plants (Hey there, Private Hudson!), your intro was so cute. Thanks for another informative upload, Dr. G!
Also in surfer's paradise, it wasn't uncommon for people to fall off balconies. Usually this was around schoolies time (high school graduation). Some hotels had locks on the balcony doors from memory to prevent kids from climbing. It's a party area on the Gold Coast too so accidents happen when people "overindulge". Not sure how common it is now.
could you do a video on the Randy Stair shooting? It's a very bizarre case with a lot of interesting mental health aspects. An animator supposedly driven insane by his own characters.
Seconded!
Never heard of this one 🤔
They weren't really his characters tho lol just recolors
Sounds zany! How about Chris McNabb too?
@@bulletsfordinner8307 He's a guy who fell in love with a children's cartoon character and committed a shooting at his local supermarket because he believed he would meet her in the afterlife. He also had a youtube channel where he would post bizarre animations of his own characters.
Over here we use to say "Don't trust a doctor whose plants are withered." 😊 We will remind you to water them, when they start to look bad, doctor, so that you can continue to give others a trustworthy impression of yourself. 😊
@@arnonuhm4022 Mit Verlaub, das war von mir ironisch gemeint. Der Emoji lacht ja. Und ich finde diesen blinden Glauben in die Gültigkeit von psychologischen Tests, der in dieser Kommentarspalte zu herrschen scheint, naiv bis gefährlich. Ganz unironisch.
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“I don’t know much about plants. This is a good plant.”
I really enjoy your deadpan analogies.
I literally burst out laughing at the new plants just popping up 😂😂😂
Why would you ever go to a guy's apartment you just met!!!!
A mental condition found all over the world. Called “stupidity”. It happens to people.
Some people find that exciting, you never know what is about to happen, you might get murdered or have sex, some times both of them.
Happens all the time.
@@jena.alexia sad.
@@Ch1mr1ck that was sooo funny lol😂. Love the sarcasm.
I am so ready for this chapter of Dr. Grande and his plants. 🌷🍀🌹🌻🌿🍄🌵🌴🌲🌳🌱🌼
Just a quick note to say that all kinds of action-packed suspense appears on my TH-cam main page, or default page or whatever-the-hell-it's-called -- page. Anything from veteran WW2 storytellers; to fabulous F1 footage; to True Crime; to David Letterman from the NBC days; to hilarious Norm McDonald footage; to Dick Cavett. The list goes on and on. I think you get the point. Anyway, my actual point being is I always click on an episode of Dr. Grande before all others. Your intellect, insight into human behaviour and subtle sense of humour is appreciated during these crazy days. Kudos.
That cactus seems too close for comfort lol. Will we finally see Dr Grande swear? 🤣
I was thinking that myself
That'd be sweet.
Lol.
Maybe on [blank] Patreon...
I always think that of reviewbrah's water chalice.
Hi Dr. Grande,
I like your plants 🌵 and 🌿
appreciate your gentle nature.🦉
We meet again. Seems u are ☘️-Ed on my line of vision.
🌴☘️s are gentle by nature.
Eric P☘️nt u are highly valued.
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Thanks Mr. Hildebrand. Your a kind fellow and the world needs more of the same.
😊 Nice way to wrap up a serious commentary. Thank you, Dr. Grande.
Your opening with the plants was somehow exactly what I needed today
"Today in scuzzy, creepy boyfriend news..."
Totes
Not to mention psycho bish from Wellington nz news (been there done that got the trauma)
And alcoholic self admitted psycho drunk news
He was not her boyfriend. She was using him to hurt her boyfriend.
@@kevinhornbuckle Alright then: today in Scuzzy, creepy simp and lowbrow trash harlot news...
This was a sad case and that male is disgusting! I can’t even utter his name. Alcohol is the gateway to trouble! You rock DrGrande.
He is a profoundly arrogant, and toxic person sober or drunk. He even did paid appearances at night clubs. Like promo stuff. No shame. And constant complaints of harassment against the media, he took money from. Coz he didn't like when they told the truth.
@Master _E yes, I've listened to the full 3 hours. Seen all the cctv footage. Social media selfies, all was fine between them til they got back to his place. Which happened fairly quickly. He admits they had sex, but he hurt her during the act and they either had to stop or she was just really angry with him for doing it. There is so much more info out there. She was, from all ive seen, an inexperienced naive youth being fed too much alcohol she hadn't tried becore and had no idea what the affect would be.
He on the other hand, had this home brew style booze at hand. Fed it to her even after the first flare up. Has other violence on women incidents, and showed zero concern or remorse.
@Master _E looking for a one night hook up, casual sex date, isnt the best idea, but it doesnt equate to killing someone. Over intoxicating them, inviting them. back to your home, choking them, restraining them and choosing to lock them on a balcony instead of taking them out the front door. She was clearly foolish with the choices she made. He was too, but his actions, and lack of response, or concern for anything but himself, is sinister.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a "believe all women" or "all men are wrong" types.
I have just as strong an opinion on Amber Heard and her horrific personality, as I do about this Tostee fella.
They were both pretty psycho
@Master _E where can I listen
Thank you for sharing Dr!
I love Dr. Grande. His Sense of humor is so dry. When he said that Tostee was banned from certain nightclubs for being creepy was the equivalent of saying that someone was banned from landfills for being malodorous! Had me laughing so hard. What makes him even funnier is that he throws this stuff into really serious subjects.
Your analogy for being banned from a Gold Coast nightclub is BEYOND accurate! It’s the Florida of Australia.
Dr. Grande....you are so awesome! I’ve been through a lot and have done some therapy. I sure wish my therapists were like you! Thank you for being so calm and kind and generous with your knowledge!!
Yay for the plants! Loving how you take reasonable suggestions and let them benefit your channel.
Such a sweet man. The plant tour made me smile... I find it best not to fuss over plants too much, do the basics... don't overwater them... and they seem to thrive :) Good luck!
Aliens one of my fav movies. Love the quote "Talk to me, Hudson!". EPIC
[Spoiler Alert] Private Hudson died a hero. One of the greatest to ever serve in the ongoing war against xenomorphs.
So glad I found your channel.
I especially loved the end !! U are seriously the cutest for taking the suggestion to buy plants, and going thru & explaining the ones u bought...adorable!
This man seems like he's bad news in the dating department. Based on the recording, he made himself look bad by being controlling.
The Australian justice system is a joke. The media even paid him, for interviews after he got off. Money is everything.
100% agree. Disgusting legal system here especially with DV and sex crimes.
You can get harsher punishment for unpaid taxes or fines.
It must be similar to the "justice" system here in the USA.
@@iihh517 they always overcharge
Excellent coverage of this case, Dr. Grande!
And naming a cactus after Hudson from Aliens is the best thing I’ve heard this morning! I wonder if he thought _”Game over, man!”_ when you selected him at Home Depot?!
Honestly, videos like these are so interesting. You get to the root of the issue. You know? You see what the behaviors stem from. To all the people telling you to branch out and discuss different topics... I don’t know. Some of them may be trying to sow seeds of doubt into you. Anyway, I want to say congrats again on 600k subscribers! This channel has truly blossomed from when I joined the community. Ok, I’ll leaf now. But before I do, here’s a gentle reminder to stick to the meaning: the words will follow. In all seriousness, the mistreatment Wright in the moments leading up to her death and her death itself are sad
DrTodd Please do Australian woman Keli lane.... very very very interesting case here in Australia! :)))))) Love from Australia 🇦🇺
Oh yes. Shes an odd egg that one.
I agree! But please look at the parents too. It's the dynamic of the family that attributed to her behaviour.
Ice o ly seen one dock about her but it is definitely an odd and curious story.
@@ChockieBikkie her mother is ice cold oh my goodness.. the three part ABC series made me think WTF and I wouldn’t have told them I was pregnant either. Her mother is scary 😦
@@aliciafisk4059 that's what I watched too! It's on Netflix now. The journalist is brilliant, isn't she? I keep hoping there'll be another series
My dr grande crush is getting stronger with him talking about his plants 🥴
Tinder seems like ordering sex like take out food. I think the hook-up culture can bring about a lot of problems. Just the simple fact that you’re with a stranger and in such a vulnerable position like this young woman was. Tostee sounds like the exact wrong person you’d want to spend a few hours with.
His dad was a top notch retired lawyer. Related to him, Toastie was never going to go to jail.
Really? I've never seen that. I can't find anything about his dad, I thought he owned a carpet company
Tostee's father Gray Tostee is referred to in several articles as a carpet salesman/works for a major flooring company.
Tostee did have the phone number of a lawyer saved on his phone, because by that time, Tostee had already had to deal with police charges several times, so he would have had to have a lawyer for those occasions. The first time Tostee was arrested was when he was 18, so his parents would have found a lawyer for Tostee and paid the legal fees.
Why should he go to jail? He had the audio recording. He obviously did not throw her over and she was obviously not in the right mind. You know she probably thought, in her drunk logic, that she was just going to either climb down or climb over and she slipped or miscalculated- it sucks, but it is no one’s fault but her own.
If you think he belongs in jail I'm glad you don't practice law.
If the roles were reversed gender wise you wouldn't be calling for her incarnation.
@HoldTight Adele
People like OP think they have everything figured out when, in reality, they hadn't even bothered to do the very minimal research necessary to find out Gable's father wasn't an attorney at all.