Guilty af. You don't trick her into meeting you, her disappear, and then you don't know anything. They obviously tricked her to meet them at the boat after making her take a pregnancy test then they dumped her in the ocean.
Im so afraid to get into a triangle, I'm horrified, is like there is a third person that comes out the clue and they will both haunt you forever as a perversion to their reasons to have orgasms.
@@iLitAfuseiCantStop because they were AT the ocean and it would be the easiest way to dispose of her body with the least likelihood of being discovered.
@@GenXfrom75 plus its a clever way to beat a lie detector test. Throw her into the ocean alive and then if you can say “she was alive when i last saw her” and you’re technically not lying. Say “I don’t know if she’s dead” or “I didn’t kill her” - maybe she swam out; maybe a shark killed her, but you sure didn’t.
When I was 19, an incredibly creepy, smarmy, smooth-talking 40-ish guy in a suit approached me in a nightclub and said, "My wife would like me to buy you a drink. And maybe we can all get to know each other better." Then he nodded towards a woman (also wearing a suit & looking SO out of place!) seated at the bar, and she leered & winked at me. I was so freaked out that I grabbed my friend and took off. But I'm living proof that that pickup line has been in use for awhile, at least! Anyhow, I guess actual open marriages do actually exist, at least based on that experience? Different strokes for different folks, as they say...but I also can only hope other open couples have a less serial-killer predator vibe than those two! (Interestingly, I hadn't even heard of "American Psycho" at the time, but looking back that's *exactly* the vibe he gave off!"
@@catT5236 It really was. I'm just glad that, as young & innocent as I was, I wasn't *quite* naive enough to have accepted that drink; I don't even want to think what might have been in it...or what might have been their intentions. So scary.
The Steven Avery case he posted was very much detailed beyond any other videos on Mr. Avery from other channels. The narration and thoroughness regarding details very much impressed me! Peace!
These sorts of stories always make me so sad. They also make me grateful that none of the truly terrible decisions that I made in my 20's, with and regarding awful men, resulted in my pregnancy and subsequent murder.
Where i live in the us, at least, infidelity is the cause of more murders than every other cause combined. I've known several ppl who were nearly killed for it, and two who actually were (both shot to death by the husband when he lost it after catching them in his bed.) ...the guy's mother said he didn't know the woman was married (that she lied to him), but I don't buy that....There's no way they had no pictures in the house, etc..
When I was 19 I dated a guy that was 10 years older than me. He only wanted to date me because he thought it would make him "popular and make his image better" he would boss me around telling me what to wear ,how to cook the way he wanted,clean,He was very antisocial too. I realized how stupid I was and got smarter in my late twenties
Getting involved with someone married,getting involved with someone a lot older, online dating. Or even rushing into a relationship (with someone you don't know. ) Nothing but playing with fire. Girls are easy manipulated,and too naive .Guys are just looking for one thing
This guy must have been a real prize.🦧 Next time a married man tells you he has an "open" marriage, request a conference call with his wife to confirm. This was so tragic, but Dr. Grande's jokes were hilarious.
She did write she likes older men, I’m not sure why she was drew to him. I’m not sure if he told her he was married from the start or later. They weren’t with each other for very long. Which is why contraception is important. You don’t want to being a child into a world of crazy of your dad was married and the poor kid was a result of a wild affair.
Actually, if he says they have an open marraige, run in the opposite direction, don't call the wife. Open marraiges says you are dealing with messed up people and nothing good would ever come of an affair.
I had a front row seat to all of this. I worked at one of the restaurants and would talk regularly to Heather and Sidney. I didn't know about the affair until late November of 2013. I have no doubt Tammy Moore is the master mind behind Heather disappearing.
Oh snap, that OJ and Casey Anthony reference at the end! I typically enjoy Dr Grande's videos as I prepare for dinner and walk around my kitchen pretty quietly. But an "oh DAMN!" escaped after that 😆
Ugh, I feel so bad for heather. The poor thing. She was so young and chasing after a much older man. That relationship in and of itself was unhealthy, never mind the fact that he was willing to murder her to satisfy his wife’s demands. And she was probably terrified of being pregnant and alone in the south. So sad.
As a native Carolinian it’s very Myrtle Beach to me. I followed this case from the start. Always thought the Moorer’s were guilty. Wish they’d just confessed so the parents could get some closure.
@@JustDr.S There was no body. They really can’t prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. Even if you presume Heather died, there’s no way to know how, or by who. I just cannot believe Sydney & Tammy didn’t turn on each other. I thought for sure one would want a deal for less time in prison. I’m sure the prosecutor worked hard to give one of them a deal just so they could have a body or confession. I think they dumped her body in water somewhere. They took the kids and went to San Diego right after she went missing for a vacation...so disturbing.
@@CharlestonTracy I bet those cops 'know' they murdered her, but as you say, not enough evidence to prove it. The kidnapping, there was a lot of evidence for that. I wonder if the two of them will stick to their stories forever? These two only seem to care about themselves. I won't hold my breath waiting for either of them to grow a conscience and confess. Hopefully, Heather's body will be found, one day. Might be able to make a case, then. I guess they kidnapped her for.....?
Yep, if you find yourself "fighting" with another person over the affections and time of a significant other, you already lost. Cut bait and fish elsewhere. There is not a guy or woman on this earth worth losing life or freedom over.
Thank you for keeping this case alive. I have studied everything there is to this beastly event and it is close to my heart. As always, you're professional wisdom is greatly appreciated.
This is not intended to be part of an interesting dialog about the video, but simply a word of appreciation for this channel. Like many of your viewers, I deeply appreciate your calm, centered story telling, vast knowledge of the ephemeral field of psychology, and your pointed and restrained humor. I find yours a voice of sanity in the chaotic world of 2020-2021. I only discovered your work a few days ago and I want to say thank you. I also like your simple, unpretentious setting. However I don't care much for the "used brick" background, mainly because it takes the focus away from your expressive, intelligent face and the graphics. I liked the ivory background much better. It is less distracting. Just one opinion.
You're in for a wonderful weekend of binge watching Dr Grande, lucky you! One of the most informative and entertaining (in a restrained way) YT channels. Enjoy.
In this video it looks like Dr Grande is displaying three of his plants. They are _Pachira aquatica_ , _Euphorbia trigona_ and the cactus with the purple top looks to be in the Genus _Mammillaria_ I can't tell which species without a further inspection. I would advise Dr. Grande to inspect this cactus' flower closely. This cactus when sold commercially often will have an artificial flower glued to its top. Given its deep purple color I suspect its a fake. While glueing a fake flower to the top is ok in the short term, if he intends to keep this cactus long term he should remove it. Cacti grow from the top upward and outward and having a glued on flower can slow and sometimes completely inhibit new growth. This has been the Jess Hull Signing off with the Dr. Grande plant report.
I thought to myself: cool, I love succulent nerds wait that sounds wrong edit; oh milk tree? Yikes that reminds me of the milkbush, euphorbia tirucalli...Hope this one's sap isn't as dangerous. It's really beautiful though
Yes! I love hearing your rational, levelheaded perspective on those cases which are usually reacted to with strong emotion. Strong emotion is natural, because they are tragic cases, but doesn’t always result in great analysis.
While you're are using words like "nice" and "reasonable" the justice system is actually perverted to the point of being worse than the criminality it supposedly prevents. For example death sentence cases involve the highest level of scrutiny that our system offers and yet new DNA evidence technology has revealed wrongful conviction rates of 25%. One in four people are being put to death by the state after being wrongfully found guilty. That is so, so far away from "better 1,000 guilty people walk free than one innocent person go behind bars" which is the supposed point of "reasonable doubt". The justice system still relies on completely unreliable evidence such as human memory and police officer's magical memories. Many, but not all, branches of forensic science are actually baseless pseudo-science invented to create evidence including fingerprinting, bite mark analysis, blood spatter and many others.
@@unitedfools3493where did you get the 25% from? I genuinely couldn’t find one study that was even close to 25%. Lol That’s crazy high. Most of the studies I found were 5%-6%, still bad but obviously not 25%.
@@beastbeauty7024that kind of info is basically impossible to hide. The percentage doesn’t comes from the cops, fbi, etc. It comes from different organizations comparing how many people were put on death row vs how many people were exonerated with dna evidence. In theory you and I can run the numbers of our home state and come up with a number. Let me be clear I don’t think cops are always trustworthy. Lol I’m not that type of person. However if I hear an bold claim I’m going need some evidence before I just believe it’s truth. If you do the research yourself countless organizations and studies estimate around the same percentage. Lol I couldn’t find one place that said anywhere even close to 25%. I suspect this person just repeated something they heard someone else say or pulled the number from the sky. Without any evidence to validate a statement we’d essentially be like children just believing everything were told. Lol No thanks.
Thank you for this video. This case affected me greatly. I thought about it and agonized about for weeks. I also searched youtube and scrolled thru your page several times to see if you can offer an educated explanation of the factors at play and offer an opinion. What happened is truly tragic and such a waste of life .... and all for a bar that is burried a mile below the surface of the 🌎.
Interesting question. I've heard of her extraordinary memory a few years ago. Humans have many, many spectacular abilities but remain latent in their psyce's, because of a lack of spritual development or what some call a shift in conciousness. ( higher conciousness) Mrs. Henner simply has access to her deep sub-concious mind. Meditation will open access to the deep sub-concious or what some label the Akashic records.
Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory is the full name, also known as hyperthymesia, and it's completely involuntary. I'd love to hear what Dr Grande has to say about the subject. 60 Minutes did a special on it which included Henner along with a few others. There's a great book about the first documented case, I think it was called "The Woman Who Couldn't Forget". It's fascinating and seems like it can be utterly debilitating at times. Thanks for mentioning a condition I used to have great interest in, and had ironically forgotten about! 🧠🍍
Don't EVER believe someone who says s/he's in an open marriage, unless you meet the partner and s/he gives you the go-ahead. Didn't something very something similar happen with some college students (?) The female partner got jealous that the male had a previous relationship, and demanded that they kill her.
I'm sitting here wondering what the question is. I think it's not about Elvis; cause that's obvious, and more about why the police are not fired for not being able to add 2+2.
The detective was fired. He is dead now. He was running mud wrestling competitions in his backyard for women accused of crimes. His name was Detective Large.
Such a sad story all around. The wife should have just left her POS husband. My question is why the wife ONLY wanted to hurt Heather. Her husband was the one who betrayed her and destroyed their family. Yeah Heather wasn't a perfect angel (like everyone makes her out to be) but she didn't deserve to die and she has a lot less blame on her conscience than the husband does. What he did was way worse because it was HIS family he willingly destroyed. Why didn't the wife want to torture him instead of Heather? And why did this guy MURDER his mistress to please his wife?!??? He cheated on his wife again and again and again so he can't have actually loved his wife. So why did he go along with this? Why did he literally KILL someone to keep his wife from leaving him when he clearly wasn't happy in his marriage anyway? This whole story is so desperately sad and f**ked up. I feel terrible for Heather's family. Heather will always be remembered as the girl who was murdered for being a homewrecker and I'm sure that hurts her family badly. I'm glad her family and Heather got justice but it will never be enough.
The people who victim blame are in part condoning the murder, I think she was a young girl who made a bad choice, but it's clear she had very little self esteem, when she thought this guy was a good catch, she was his victim from the first day she met him, jmo.
@@Acetyl53 yeah but why did the HUSBAND agree to kill Heather? Why not just dump his wife? He clearly didn't love her at all? That's what I don't understand. Why did he agree to do this?
@@WhitneyDahlin She probably threatened to kick him out. He didn't have a full-time job. He wanted to continue to live in the nice house and drive the expensive truck. Plus he was a man with no balls. She had emasculated him. I saw the look of regret on his face when he was found guilty. He looked like damn how did I get involved in this mess.
As I hear this story I'm screaming inside "No, girl! Don't do it! Don't do it!" This poor girl sounds very naive, I wish she would have listened to her friend. These people sound completely psycho, and the wife makes me sick the way she's smiling in all her mugshots and photos.
Absolutely agree with you, Dr Grande. What did this young girl with her whole life ahead of her see in this absolute loser? One question - why did the defence indicate that the real criminalS would be found? Aren't most murders committed by individuals? Maybe they suspect their clients were responsible and got away with it bc of poor police work?
Hi Dr. Grande, thank you for upload and hard work!! I would be curious to hear your opinion on the recent “snow shoveling” murders that took place earlier this week in Pennsylvania. Much love. 💚💚💚💚💚
@@TomikaKelly Quite, Extraordinarily Beautiful and kind and hard-working and bright and funny and spunky and compassionate and NON-JUDGMENTAL. She had hopes and dreams, I wish she would have been here to reach them. Blessings.
Right! You look at Sydney of the Spineless and you look at Heather and have to shake your head and come to terms with the fact that there is really no accounting for taste. In this case, it turned out truly tragic.
@@MsAngelPixie Yeah, she was a really pretty girl from a (supposedly) normal family, and had everything going for her! I’m not victim-blaming here! I think both of the married couple are not quite right, but why th did she have to have THAT man!? I just don’t get it!
They always say nothing good happens after 2 am. I think it's obvious Sidney & Tammy killed this girl. I pray shes found so her family have answers & can lay her to rest. Such a sad situation.
In that case too.... A driving force of the murder was a women. Right before he murdered his wife there was a whatsapp call placed with his girlfriend that ran above an hour. When the policed interrogated her regarding what was said in the call she says she doesn't remember. 😑
He is anything but Chris Watts. CW killed his family for his gf while Sydney killed his gf for his family (wife). killing your own kids is something else.
They were masterminds enough to know where there weren't camera and how to get rid of her seamlessly. In the grand scheme of being trafficked for sra they got away with what was their end goal - The painful and traumatic end of a pregnant mother and her child and no one being able to put their finger on it.
@@salubriousinfo they are vile and base, serving 30 year long prison sentences, each. Masterminds? Sure , along with the rest of the prison population .
What a crazy crazy story. If they kidnapped her, where are they keeping her? I have never seen so much “ circumstantial” evidence, then 2 people charged for kidnapping someone with zero evidence. I am not bias. I don’t have any compassion for an infidel or his spouse that seemingly blames the husbands mistress for HIS affair, but this was the most outrageous trial with the most bogus evidence. I will be surprised if this sentence sticks without a body.
Tilted Halo I get it. It’s aweful. I hate that her family is in such turmoil, but there are 2 people in jail on circumstantial evidence. I have never seen anything like it.
Heather might have made some bad choices, but I see a lot of victim-blaming in her case (not in this comment section but in general) and it's completely uncalled for. The Moorers couldn't be more unsavory if they tried, between full-of-himself Sidney and rageaholic territorial control freak Tammy....It's nice to see a video that keeps it all in perspective. The notion that a victim of murder "deserved it" for acting in sexually less-than-desirable ways is beyond ludicrous.
I agree. It's even worse when you look at their ages. Heather was just barely out of her teens. People her age are kind of known for making some bad decisions. I know I dated my fair share of guys at 20 who now make me wonder what the hell I was thinking, lol. Heather would probably think the same way of Sidney today. But they were in their late 30s/early 40s when this happened---essentially twice her age. It makes sense that Heather may not have had the maturity and experience to see this clearly, but what's their excuse? Though I do have to admit, I always chuckle when I see Tammy's police interrogation video and she's bragging to the detective that everybody thinks that she was also 20. I mean, sure, if she means 20 years past her prime. Jesus Christ. The egos on those two are ridiculous.
@@katewe4332 she had probably daddy isues. I mean, God bles her, rest in piece but i never understand young girls who f... with older man. To me this is disgusting. And vice versa. Ok with 5 years older but 17 years cmmon now.
@@markozbunjol625 i mean why are older men obsessed with girls. i notice a pattern men only like them young but of course legal enough so they cant be predators if they have any sense is I think a better question then that lol
I agree. we ndon't know what she grew up learning from family that messed her up emotionally when it came to relationships and no one deserves to die for poor judgment. It's sad this happened to her.
Hi Dr. Grande- I always find your analysis of current people in the news interesting, but the reason I found your channel was because of all the info on BPD. Are you going to do anymore videos along those lines? Thanks, Lori
Loving you, LOTS, Dr. Grande. At the risk of redundancy and being a bore, would you please,please,PLEASE consider looking into IAN BAILEY, of West Cork, Ireland????? It is an absolutely riveting case. 🙏 💗
This was a very intriguing case. I'd never heard about it until now. Dr. Grande, you gave an excellent synopsis and analysis of the three people involved. I'm just curious about why and how the police so quickly ruled out Heather's date that night. The limited evidence that LEO's had (or more likely, the large blinders that they wore) seemed inadequate yet completely focused on the married couple. I believe, based upon what was presented here, that Tammy and her husband took care of Heather and the additional little potential complication: an unborn child. I'm glad that they will spend the next 25+ years in prison before they are eligible for parole; hopefully, they will be denied. Since I am still confined to bed, I will definitely research this case in-depth. You've made it much more interesting to not research what made this couple tick!
They had enough evidence to convict them of kidnapping her. What did they think they kidnapped her for? smh. Thanks, Dr. Grande. I was hoping you'd do this case. Great job, as usual! ❤
Thank you kindly. There was a witness to a picture on tammy/sidney device that showed a captive elvis that looked barely alive.... they can wait to file the murder charges because of the statute of limitations. They jumped on the other charges as to not to let these two killers go while they try to find Heather's remains.
How to make very serious videos on murder and mayhem so entertaing? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Dr Grande and his laconic delivery and dry humour!
This happened in my home town. I have been following the family for a long time on their Facebook page.. they just want to know where their daughter is.. it is so sad!!
Something tells me Dr. Grande doesn't think the man Sidney is a good catch...
Ikr
LOL
Thus Elvis girl was gorgeous as well, I just don't get it
Guilty af. You don't trick her into meeting you, her disappear, and then you don't know anything. They obviously tricked her to meet them at the boat after making her take a pregnancy test then they dumped her in the ocean.
I have never heard of this case but I would have to agree definitely.
Im so afraid to get into a triangle, I'm horrified, is like there is a third person that comes out the clue and they will both haunt you forever as a perversion to their reasons to have orgasms.
What makes you think they disposed of her body in the ocean? Just curious.
@@iLitAfuseiCantStop because they were AT the ocean and it would be the easiest way to dispose of her body with the least likelihood of being discovered.
@@GenXfrom75 plus its a clever way to beat a lie detector test. Throw her into the ocean alive and then if you can say “she was alive when i last saw her” and you’re technically not lying. Say “I don’t know if she’s dead” or “I didn’t kill her” - maybe she swam out; maybe a shark killed her, but you sure didn’t.
He really said: “burying the bar a mile below the surface of the earth.” 😂😂😂
I lost it there too! Classic Dr Grande 🤣🤣
This is the first time I have actually seen him laugh at the obvious humor in something. Which made it that much funnier.
Ha! That was great! Sidney must've really known how to swing a mean hammer... 🤣
Indeed! Intelligent sense of humour Dr Grande
That was hilarious 😂
Open Marriage - the dumbest pickup line I ever heard.
When I was 19, an incredibly creepy, smarmy, smooth-talking 40-ish guy in a suit approached me in a nightclub and said, "My wife would like me to buy you a drink. And maybe we can all get to know each other better." Then he nodded towards a woman (also wearing a suit & looking SO out of place!) seated at the bar, and she leered & winked at me.
I was so freaked out that I grabbed my friend and took off. But I'm living proof that that pickup line has been in use for awhile, at least!
Anyhow, I guess actual open marriages do actually exist, at least based on that experience? Different strokes for different folks, as they say...but I also can only hope other open couples have a less serial-killer predator vibe than those two!
(Interestingly, I hadn't even heard of "American Psycho" at the time, but looking back that's *exactly* the vibe he gave off!"
@@maneckineckbeard1749 that's terrifying!
Lol such a red flag amirite!!!
@@catT5236 It really was. I'm just glad that, as young & innocent as I was, I wasn't *quite* naive enough to have accepted that drink; I don't even want to think what might have been in it...or what might have been their intentions. So scary.
@@maneckineckbeard1749 they use this line a lot. 🤣
Probably the most soft-spoken, yet funny, therapist on planet earth! ❤
The Steven Avery case he posted was very much detailed beyond any other videos on Mr. Avery from other channels. The narration and thoroughness regarding details very much impressed me! Peace!
He is the best!!❤
@@anitalassiter4266 100%!
Hell yeah dude
@Apple Boat like totally!
These sorts of stories always make me so sad. They also make me grateful that none of the truly terrible decisions that I made in my 20's, with and regarding awful men, resulted in my pregnancy and subsequent murder.
Where i live in the us, at least, infidelity is the cause of more murders than every other cause combined. I've known several ppl who were nearly killed for it, and two who actually were (both shot to death by the husband when he lost it after catching them in his bed.)
...the guy's mother said he didn't know the woman was married (that she lied to him), but I don't buy that....There's no way they had no pictures in the house, etc..
Same. It’s still so sad though. They were literally twice her age.
@travis ryno Source: my ass
I agree it’s crazy how we all think this could never happen to us an in reality we’re all just a few feet away from this at one point or another
When I was 19 I dated a guy that was 10 years older than me. He only wanted to date me because he thought it would make him "popular and make his image better" he would boss me around telling me what to wear ,how to cook the way he wanted,clean,He was very antisocial too. I realized how stupid I was and got smarter in my late twenties
Maybe they also don’t want to disclose the location of the body in the event she was pregnant it could be charged as a double homicide. 🤷♀️
I think she was pregnant
@@jenniferlane9000 That's what Kelly C is saying 😄😄😄
Good point!
I don't think it can be considered a double homicide if she was pregnant unfortunately. It would be considered unlawful termination of a pregnancy.
@@mysteryninja5851 depends on the gestation. Shannan's baby wasn't a homicide, Laci Peterson's son was.
Winning Sydney would be like going on the game show Let's Make a Deal and winning a garden rake. Except a garden rake won't murder you.
Definitely not much of a prize
Allegedly.
Going on The Dating Game and choosing Rodney Alcala. So glad she got creeped out and refused to go out with him.
@@fogweaver5633 good analogy.
A broken, rusty garden rake.
Dr Grande looks so fresh in that robin’s egg blue
Agreed! I would, however, like to see Dr. G wear more button down shirts...not analyzing, just speculating!
Dr.Grande looks great ♡
Totally 😍
@@kevinhornbuckle over easy WHAT is that?
@@SujaaniPrem
An FYI Dr. Grande, I think the ladies are undressing you with their eyes!
It’s a bad idea to get involved with a married person; you never know what the spouse will do or what they will have the cheater do.
Or what diseases you could catch. The less you know about someone the riskier it is.
Or someone like Watts could end up killing his entire family
It's a bad idea because you're hurting the spouse. Simple as that. Always.
It's a worst idea killing a girl... Just saying
Getting involved with someone married,getting involved with someone a lot older, online dating. Or even rushing into a relationship (with someone you don't know. ) Nothing but playing with fire. Girls are easy manipulated,and too naive .Guys are just looking for one thing
This guy must have been a real prize.🦧 Next time a married man tells you he has an "open" marriage, request a conference call with his wife to confirm. This was so tragic, but Dr. Grande's jokes were hilarious.
Trust but verify.
It's like she said; she still knew she was doing something bad even with permission. No wonder incels are going berserk lol
She did write she likes older men, I’m not sure why she was drew to him. I’m not sure if he told her he was married from the start or later. They weren’t with each other for very long. Which is why contraception is important. You don’t want to being a child into a world of crazy of your dad was married and the poor kid was a result of a wild affair.
Actually, if he says they have an open marraige, run in the opposite direction, don't call the wife. Open marraiges says you are dealing with messed up people and nothing good would ever come of an affair.
Look at the smirks on their faces.
I know. So punchable! Ughhh
i know a bunch of fat south carolinians
I had a front row seat to all of this. I worked at one of the restaurants and would talk regularly to Heather and Sidney. I didn't know about the affair until late November of 2013. I have no doubt Tammy Moore is the master mind behind Heather disappearing.
What was she like?
i was there too. i was the ford f-150
@@nextjuanplz I was the boat ramp. Nice to see you again.
I was the shovel that Tammy got hit in the face with at birth
Attractive young girl goes after a middle aged man with a shitty haircut and bad facial hair. I don’t get it.
38 is not middle aged
Doesn't work for you I guess
@@janehuelsmann8859 38 is middle aged if you live til 76. 😀
@@janehuelsmann8859
The way he looks like he is very much midfle aged.
@@FB-cx4sp
Correct.
Oh snap, that OJ and Casey Anthony reference at the end!
I typically enjoy Dr Grande's videos as I prepare for dinner and walk around my kitchen pretty quietly. But an "oh DAMN!" escaped after that 😆
I know right? I love his dead pan delivery of low key shade. It always catches me off guard 😂
Dr Grande is Sunday morning treat here in England 🇬🇧
I prepare my dinner, then sit down for a meal with Dr G. Today, I am listening in the am instead... it somehow hits differently 🤔
I do the same! Make dinner and listen to Dr Grande! He's got great post timing for the east coast lol
Ugh, I feel so bad for heather. The poor thing. She was so young and chasing after a much older man. That relationship in and of itself was unhealthy, never mind the fact that he was willing to murder her to satisfy his wife’s demands. And she was probably terrified of being pregnant and alone in the south. So sad.
So awesome of you to give attention to Heather's case. On her behalf, we all say "Thank you, Thank you very much"
Never heard of this case before, but as a native South Carolinian, it's also the most South Carolina case I've ever heard.
It felt very Florida to me because I don't know much about SC. Since you're a native, I'll take your word for it.
As a native Carolinian it’s very Myrtle Beach to me. I followed this case from the start. Always thought the Moorer’s were guilty. Wish they’d just confessed so the parents could get some closure.
@@CharlestonTracy They had enough evidence to convict them of kidnapping. Why not the murder? Why would they kidnap her? Makes no sense. They did it.
@@JustDr.S There was no body. They really can’t prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. Even if you presume Heather died, there’s no way to know how, or by who. I just cannot believe Sydney & Tammy didn’t turn on each other. I thought for sure one would want a deal for less time in prison. I’m sure the prosecutor worked hard to give one of them a deal just so they could have a body or confession. I think they dumped her body in water somewhere. They took the kids and went to San Diego right after she went missing for a vacation...so disturbing.
@@CharlestonTracy I bet those cops 'know' they murdered her, but as you say, not enough evidence to prove it. The kidnapping, there was a lot of evidence for that. I wonder if the two of them will stick to their stories forever? These two only seem to care about themselves. I won't hold my breath waiting for either of them to grow a conscience and confess. Hopefully, Heather's body will be found, one day. Might be able to make a case, then. I guess they kidnapped her for.....?
Yep, if you find yourself "fighting" with another person over the affections and time of a significant other, you already lost. Cut bait and fish elsewhere. There is not a guy or woman on this earth worth losing life or freedom over.
LMAO @ the 'burying the bar a mile below the surface of the earth' comment. Ah, Dr. Grande never fails to crack me up.
I would really love if you covered the case of the New York nanny, Yoselyn Ortega, who murdered two children named Lucia and Leo Krim.
Second this one!
Yes! Insanity
Raise yet own kids is the moral there.
@@MrDpbazan1955 exactly never trusted anyone with my kids
@Okay. I'm stupid blaming
Thank you for keeping this case alive. I have studied everything there is to this beastly event and it is close to my heart. As always, you're professional wisdom is greatly appreciated.
This is not intended to be part of an interesting dialog about the video, but simply a word of appreciation for this channel. Like many of your viewers, I deeply appreciate your calm, centered story telling, vast knowledge of the ephemeral field of psychology, and your pointed and restrained humor. I find yours a voice of sanity in the chaotic world of 2020-2021. I only discovered your work a few days ago and I want to say thank you. I also like your simple, unpretentious setting. However I don't care much for the "used brick" background, mainly because it takes the focus away from your expressive, intelligent face and the graphics. I liked the ivory background much better. It is less distracting. Just one opinion.
You're in for a wonderful weekend of binge watching Dr Grande, lucky you! One of the most informative and entertaining (in a restrained way) YT channels. Enjoy.
Watch his video on 'Elf on a Shelf,' it's hilarious!
Loved the used bricks.
In this video it looks like Dr Grande is displaying three of his plants. They are _Pachira aquatica_ , _Euphorbia trigona_ and the cactus with the purple top looks to be in the Genus _Mammillaria_ I can't tell which species without a further inspection. I would advise Dr. Grande to inspect this cactus' flower closely. This cactus when sold commercially often will have an artificial flower glued to its top. Given its deep purple color I suspect its a fake. While glueing a fake flower to the top is ok in the short term, if he intends to keep this cactus long term he should remove it. Cacti grow from the top upward and outward and having a glued on flower can slow and sometimes completely inhibit new growth.
This has been the Jess Hull Signing off with the Dr. Grande plant report.
good tip. on Dr. G's Patreon site, he talks about each plant, and he did say there is a purple fake thing attached to the top ; ) Good eye!
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Can't resist the plant comments on this channel
I thought to myself: cool, I love succulent nerds
wait that sounds wrong
edit; oh milk tree? Yikes that reminds me of the milkbush, euphorbia tirucalli...Hope this one's sap isn't as dangerous. It's really beautiful though
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thank you for being you !! i live for the uploads!!
Always love your videos, your mild calm demeanor always puts my anxiety at ease.
WOW !!!!! can't wait to watch this one, Thank you Dr Grande.
My Favourite channel! Thanks Dr. Grande. Looking forward to the next plant purchase and the back story of it’s name 😀
Dr. Grande I think your plants are talking behind your back.
They are moving, too!
Hudson is planning a coup.
I think it's great, who's going to photobomb today
They work for the Alien Lizard People...
Hi Dr Grande! I hope you’re doing well! I love your videos! Thank you 🙏🏻 🤗
Yes! I love hearing your rational, levelheaded perspective on those cases which are usually reacted to with strong emotion. Strong emotion is natural, because they are tragic cases, but doesn’t always result in great analysis.
Ahhh, the old "we were having sex in the truck" defense. Who hasn't used that one?!
Thanks for another great episode Dr. Grande! You're really stepping up your shirt wardrobe, I like it!
"Setting the bar low?" "No, more like burying the bar a mile below the earth." That cracked me up!
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND DR. GRANDE ❤️
Yeah, see you tomorrow! 🤣
“Consider consequences before acting” ... thank you Dr. Grande! Words to live by!
Those are some intense burns, Dr. Grande! Especially that last bit at the end!
Excited to hear this one! This case was insane. As always, thank you, Doctor!
@@spiritmatter1553 haha. My favorite was the OJ Simpson/Casey Anthony comment at the end. Pure gold.
Cosmonautogy . 😂 😆 😝
While it's nice to have direct evidence, one can reasonably determine guilt from circumstantial evidence, especially when it's plentiful!
While you're are using words like "nice" and "reasonable" the justice system is actually perverted to the point of being worse than the criminality it supposedly prevents. For example death sentence cases involve the highest level of scrutiny that our system offers and yet new DNA evidence technology has revealed wrongful conviction rates of 25%. One in four people are being put to death by the state after being wrongfully found guilty. That is so, so far away from "better 1,000 guilty people walk free than one innocent person go behind bars" which is the supposed point of "reasonable doubt".
The justice system still relies on completely unreliable evidence such as human memory and police officer's magical memories. Many, but not all, branches of forensic science are actually baseless pseudo-science invented to create evidence including fingerprinting, bite mark analysis, blood spatter and many others.
@@unitedfools3493 Your response, while valid--especially in respect to eye-witness accounts--doesn't negate my point.
@@unitedfools3493where did you get the 25% from? I genuinely couldn’t find one study that was even close to 25%. Lol That’s crazy high. Most of the studies I found were 5%-6%, still bad but obviously not 25%.
@@shaun5047if it’s truly 25% do you believe the powers that be would disclose that info to the masses and risk an outcry of resistance?
@@beastbeauty7024that kind of info is basically impossible to hide. The percentage doesn’t comes from the cops, fbi, etc. It comes from different organizations comparing how many people were put on death row vs how many people were exonerated with dna evidence. In theory you and I can run the numbers of our home state and come up with a number.
Let me be clear I don’t think cops are always trustworthy. Lol I’m not that type of person. However if I hear an bold claim I’m going need some evidence before I just believe it’s truth. If you do the research yourself countless organizations and studies estimate around the same percentage. Lol I couldn’t find one place that said anywhere even close to 25%. I suspect this person just repeated something they heard someone else say or pulled the number from the sky. Without any evidence to validate a statement we’d essentially be like children just believing everything were told. Lol No thanks.
Thank you for this video. This case affected me greatly. I thought about it and agonized about for weeks. I also searched youtube and scrolled thru your page several times to see if you can offer an educated explanation of the factors at play and offer an opinion. What happened is truly tragic and such a waste of life .... and all for a bar that is burried a mile below the surface of the 🌎.
"What am I fighting for? Really, for this guy?" :)))))) I know right!!?
Oooh yes! Quite an interesting case, I'm looking forward to your thoughts on it!
Hi Dr. Grande, question: What is HSAM; the autobiographical memory condition the actress Marilu Henner and only about 100 people have?
Interesting question.
I've heard of her extraordinary memory a few years ago.
Humans have many, many spectacular abilities but remain latent in their psyce's, because of a lack of spritual development or what some call a shift in conciousness.
( higher conciousness)
Mrs. Henner simply has access to her deep sub-concious mind.
Meditation will open access to the deep sub-concious or what some label the Akashic records.
HSAM is what ultra highly intelligent young women who become actresses in Hollywood get. It's semen related. From multiple injection.
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As long as its voluntary, who's to judge?
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Common sense is the judge.
Highly Superior Autobiographical Memory is the full name, also known as hyperthymesia, and it's completely involuntary. I'd love to hear what Dr Grande has to say about the subject.
60 Minutes did a special on it which included Henner along with a few others. There's a great book about the first documented case, I think it was called "The Woman Who Couldn't Forget". It's fascinating and seems like it can be utterly debilitating at times.
Thanks for mentioning a condition I used to have great interest in, and had ironically forgotten about! 🧠🍍
Dr. Grande, do an analysis on Todd Kolhepp from SC.
Don't EVER believe someone who says s/he's in an open marriage, unless you meet the partner and s/he gives you the go-ahead.
Didn't something very something similar happen with some college students (?) The female partner got jealous that the male had a previous relationship, and demanded that they kill her.
Diane Zamora and David Graham is a famous case involving high schoolers back in the 90's. Not sure if that's the one you're thinking of but maybe!
No u said it right the first line why would you want to be involved in 2 idiots marriage no thanks 😂
I'm sitting here wondering what the question is. I think it's not about Elvis; cause that's obvious, and more about why the police are not fired for not being able to add 2+2.
The detective was fired. He is dead now. He was running mud wrestling competitions in his backyard for women accused of crimes. His name was Detective Large.
Great analysis, I’ve never heard of this case.
Such a sad story all around. The wife should have just left her POS husband. My question is why the wife ONLY wanted to hurt Heather. Her husband was the one who betrayed her and destroyed their family. Yeah Heather wasn't a perfect angel (like everyone makes her out to be) but she didn't deserve to die and she has a lot less blame on her conscience than the husband does. What he did was way worse because it was HIS family he willingly destroyed. Why didn't the wife want to torture him instead of Heather? And why did this guy MURDER his mistress to please his wife?!??? He cheated on his wife again and again and again so he can't have actually loved his wife. So why did he go along with this? Why did he literally KILL someone to keep his wife from leaving him when he clearly wasn't happy in his marriage anyway? This whole story is so desperately sad and f**ked up. I feel terrible for Heather's family. Heather will always be remembered as the girl who was murdered for being a homewrecker and I'm sure that hurts her family badly. I'm glad her family and Heather got justice but it will never be enough.
The people who victim blame are in part condoning the murder, I think she was a young girl who made a bad choice, but it's clear she had very little self esteem, when she thought this guy was a good catch, she was his victim from the first day she met him, jmo.
@@Acetyl53 yeah but why did the HUSBAND agree to kill Heather? Why not just dump his wife? He clearly didn't love her at all? That's what I don't understand. Why did he agree to do this?
@@WhitneyDahlin She probably threatened to kick him out. He didn't have a full-time job. He wanted to continue to live in the nice house and drive the expensive truck. Plus he was a man with no balls. She had emasculated him. I saw the look of regret on his face when he was found guilty. He looked like damn how did I get involved in this mess.
As I hear this story I'm screaming inside "No, girl! Don't do it! Don't do it!" This poor girl sounds very naive, I wish she would have listened to her friend. These people sound completely psycho, and the wife makes me sick the way she's smiling in all her mugshots and photos.
I love your channel and content keep the great videos coming!!!!! I would love it if you would cover the Faith Hedgepeth case!
Love all the videos Dr. Grande puts out. Non-biased but yet educational... look forward to your videos! Thank you!
Absolutely agree with you, Dr Grande. What did this young girl with her whole life ahead of her see in this absolute loser? One question - why did the defence indicate that the real criminalS would be found? Aren't most murders committed by individuals? Maybe they suspect their clients were responsible and got away with it bc of poor police work?
Perfect combo: Listening to Dr. Grande's analysis after watching That Chapter's video of the case🤞
Hi Dr. Grande, thank you for upload and hard work!! I would be curious to hear your opinion on the recent “snow shoveling” murders that took place earlier this week in Pennsylvania.
Much love. 💚💚💚💚💚
Second that!
A mile below the surface of the earth! Classic Doctor Grande!
I used to work at The Tilted Kilt, Heather was never far from our thoughts. What a tragedy! She was such a beautiful person😪🕊💫🌻❤🙏
How beautiful of a person could she have been if she was intentionally sleeping with a married man, love?
@@TomikaKelly Quite, Extraordinarily Beautiful and kind and hard-working and bright and funny and spunky and compassionate and NON-JUDGMENTAL. She had hopes and dreams, I wish she would have been here to reach them. Blessings.
Who takes the word of a suspected killer or killers? She was told it was an open realationship.
Such a shame that she was tricked by that sleazebucket. Happens way too often with naive young women, unfortunately.
@@TomikaKelly exactly.
Whenever I hear about this story, the only question on my mind is “Why, Heather!?”
Right! You look at Sydney of the Spineless and you look at Heather and have to shake your head and come to terms with the fact that there is really no accounting for taste. In this case, it turned out truly tragic.
@@MsAngelPixie Yeah, she was a really pretty girl from a (supposedly) normal family, and had everything going for her! I’m not victim-blaming here! I think both of the married couple are not quite right, but why th did she have to have THAT man!? I just don’t get it!
Why an older gross man ew
@@brittany6818 There are “older” men and then there’s THIS man!
@@dosir689 I did say "gross" so...lol
I thought for sure he was gonna say they were more like Beavis & Butt-Head than Thelma & Louise, but Bill & Ted works too.
This is so weird - I literally watched a programme about this yesterday and now you’ve done a video like 12 hours later! Really good analysis btw
They always say nothing good happens after 2 am. I think it's obvious Sidney & Tammy killed this girl. I pray shes found so her family have answers & can lay her to rest. Such a sad situation.
Yay Dr Grande!!
Yes both guilty and Sydney has all the characteristics of a narcissist.
There definitely seems to be something wrong with him, but he seems to have been submissive to his wife, and that in itself is not very narcissistic
I took that Sydney was in an abusive and toxic relationship. He gave her so much control over his life, that she locked him out his own phone
@@jezra4427 interesting... now that I think of it I think I know someone from my past who is just like that
Great video as always Doc!
My fave nightcap! Dr. G and his beautiful plants 😍 ❤ ♥ 💖
Sydney reminds me of a Chris Watts personality. A self serving gutless wonder, but I am pretty sure that’s not the medical terminology? 🤔😉
In that case too.... A driving force of the murder was a women.
Right before he murdered his wife there was a whatsapp call placed with his girlfriend that ran above an hour. When the policed interrogated her regarding what was said in the call she says she doesn't remember. 😑
Tina you hit the nail right on the head!
He is anything but Chris Watts. CW killed his family for his gf while Sydney killed his gf for his family (wife). killing your own kids is something else.
@@salubriousinfo Agree, that NK is another piece of work, "she couldn't remember" give me 10 minuets with her, I'm sure I could help jog her memory.
@@hamida185 he killed a woman when she became inconvenient to his lifestyle, so yes similar.
They might not have been master criminals but lucky for them, they didn’t have master detectives on the case either .
They were masterminds enough to know where there weren't camera and how to get rid of her seamlessly.
In the grand scheme of being trafficked for sra they got away with what was their end goal - The painful and traumatic end of a pregnant mother and her child and no one being able to put their finger on it.
@@salubriousinfo they are vile and base, serving 30 year long prison sentences, each. Masterminds? Sure , along with the rest of the prison population .
Lucky for society they both got 30 years.
What a crazy crazy story. If they kidnapped her, where are they keeping her? I have never seen so much “ circumstantial” evidence, then 2 people charged for kidnapping someone with zero evidence. I am not bias. I don’t have any compassion for an infidel or his spouse that seemingly blames the husbands mistress for HIS affair, but this was the most outrageous trial with the most bogus evidence. I will be surprised if this sentence sticks without a body.
Tilted Halo I get it. It’s aweful. I hate that her family is in such turmoil, but there are 2 people in jail on circumstantial evidence. I have never seen anything like it.
Heather might have made some bad choices, but I see a lot of victim-blaming in her case (not in this comment section but in general) and it's completely uncalled for. The Moorers couldn't be more unsavory if they tried, between full-of-himself Sidney and rageaholic territorial control freak Tammy....It's nice to see a video that keeps it all in perspective. The notion that a victim of murder "deserved it" for acting in sexually less-than-desirable ways is beyond ludicrous.
I agree. It's even worse when you look at their ages. Heather was just barely out of her teens. People her age are kind of known for making some bad decisions. I know I dated my fair share of guys at 20 who now make me wonder what the hell I was thinking, lol. Heather would probably think the same way of Sidney today. But they were in their late 30s/early 40s when this happened---essentially twice her age. It makes sense that Heather may not have had the maturity and experience to see this clearly, but what's their excuse?
Though I do have to admit, I always chuckle when I see Tammy's police interrogation video and she's bragging to the detective that everybody thinks that she was also 20. I mean, sure, if she means 20 years past her prime. Jesus Christ. The egos on those two are ridiculous.
@@katewe4332 she had probably daddy isues. I mean, God bles her, rest in piece but i never understand young girls who f... with older man. To me this is disgusting. And vice versa. Ok with 5 years older but 17 years cmmon now.
@@markozbunjol625 i mean why are older men obsessed with girls. i notice a pattern men only like them young but of course legal enough so they cant be predators if they have any sense is I think a better question then that lol
I agree. we ndon't know what she grew up learning from family that messed her up emotionally when it came to relationships and no one deserves to die for poor judgment. It's sad this happened to her.
Hi Dr. Grande! Hope you and yours are well.
Thank you for your videos
Love your droll humor.
"Consider consequences before actions" - what percentage of the human population does that? 10 percent? 5? 😂😂😂
5%.... :(
Especially when it comes to the young and inexperienced. It's how we learn. Thankfully, most of us survive our poor choices and arn't murdered.
Hi Dr. Grande- I always find your analysis of current people in the news interesting, but the reason I found your channel was because of all the info on BPD. Are you going to do anymore videos along those lines? Thanks, Lori
Wow, nice Dr. Grande!
Request for Katie Pladl case analysis please. Very very bizarre case!
Awesome video Todd!
Guilty!! There is cam footage of their truck heading back and forth to the park where she was to meet him. Thanks for covering.
Jeez, where do these people come from?! Yet another tale that turns my stomach... Dunno' how you can analyze these cases and stay sane...
Loving you, LOTS, Dr. Grande. At the risk of redundancy and being a bore, would you please,please,PLEASE consider looking into IAN BAILEY, of West Cork, Ireland????? It is an absolutely riveting case. 🙏 💗
Great video...loaded with insightful Burns...laughed.
O.j. and Casey, a plus was the "ends up with this guy" . And, great shirt .
Can you do an analysis on the double murder suicide that recently occurred in Pennsylvania over shovelling snow..Love the channel Doctor.
Yes! Second that!
He already did that one. Look it up. It's a good one.
@@jillellen2631 lol yeah 3 days after this request...so yeah
@@jillellen2631 What's it called?
Omg yes. This is the one I've been waiting for! Absolutely guilty! Love your videos! ❤️
Dr. Grande is the only cool Todd ever. Lol. Thanks for the video!
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I know this is an older video, but the "burying the bar a mile below the surface of the Earth" quip made me crack up. Friggin' legend Dr. Grande!
Like burying the bar a mile below the center of the earth😅. Parched.😅I love your true crime breakdowns Dr Grande!💜
You rock doc, really interesting and objectively presented content
Well, hello again haha!! Can't wait to watch!
I think you are spot on! Great analysis 👍
This was a very intriguing case. I'd never heard about it until now. Dr. Grande, you gave an excellent synopsis and analysis of the three people involved. I'm just curious about why and how the police so quickly ruled out Heather's date that night. The limited evidence that LEO's had (or more likely, the large blinders that they wore) seemed inadequate yet completely focused on the married couple.
I believe, based upon what was presented here, that Tammy and her husband took care of Heather and the additional little potential complication: an unborn child.
I'm glad that they will spend the next 25+ years in prison before they are eligible for parole; hopefully, they will be denied.
Since I am still confined to bed, I will definitely research this case in-depth. You've made it much more interesting to not research what made this couple tick!
Lol the merch is so incredibly funny to me! Just seeing it now!
They had enough evidence to convict them of kidnapping her. What did they think they kidnapped her for? smh. Thanks, Dr. Grande. I was hoping you'd do this case. Great job, as usual! ❤
Great video Dr.Grande! Thank you!
Hell hath no fury as a Borderline who has been cheated on.
I just cried a lot when I, a person with BPD, was cheated on. Please don't pin this person's horrible actions on a disorder. She is just evil.
So true!
Thank you kindly. There was a witness to a picture on tammy/sidney device that showed a captive elvis that looked barely alive.... they can wait to file the murder charges because of the statute of limitations. They jumped on the other charges as to not to let these two killers go while they try to find Heather's remains.
Dearest God, I hope they do and I hope their state has the death penalty. Those two losers don't deserve to exist.
Thank you for the upload on this case. I've never heard of it before! (Sky blue is definitely "your" color!)
I just watched this earlier on Mike's true crime channel called That Chapter.
"Let's give it a gooo." 🤣
That Chapter is a good one. Love his videos!
@@JustDr.S Ha Ha Yeah that's good.
@@christa7773 Same here. I've been binge watching his channel for the last few days.
@@electronixTech I like Mike's accent. "It twas tree terdy five in Peniscola Florida..." He's hilarious. Good stories, too. 🤣
“Less like Thelma and Louise and more like Bill and Ted” Lol 🤣🤣🤣
You sir inspired me to become a Counselor!
Never met a Tammy that I liked... I am sure they are out there. lol
truth! stay away from crystals & tammys lmao.
same here
How to make very serious videos on murder and mayhem so entertaing? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Dr Grande and his laconic delivery and dry humour!
That brick wall needs brighting up with pink neon light stating “ I’m just speculating!”
Or maybe O.C.E.A.N. Animated, of course.
That's a cool funny idea!
Spot on per usual
"Setting the bar low!" No kidding.
This happened in my home town. I have been following the family for a long time on their Facebook page.. they just want to know where their daughter is.. it is so sad!!