Although the new electric forecourt is very swanky I’m interested in how they will cope with the heavy load when everyone has EV’s. Petrol forecourts that take only a minute or two of your time filling the car can be congested at times. When it takes upwards of 40 minutes to have any kind of charge that will be good for a medium journey the congestion will be unmanageable.
If and when everyone has ev's, the grid will not be able to cope and will shut down , due to overload! End of problem and we will all go back to diesel and petrol because everyone would be dying due to lack of heating etc. Unless of course someone invents nuclear fusion, which really is not on the cards, way it looks at the mo. EVs ? I don't think so.
They have enormous battery banks in shipping containers on site (you can see them out the window at one point). They contain enough energy to charge cars for over a week, so it’s not an issue. They have thought of that.
As I've mentioned, I got rid of my Jaguar IPace and returned back to a petrol car however my brother recently got an Ipace, his wife has a Fiat 500 petrol version. They live near Leeds and recently had a weeks holiday in Torquay. My brother is 6ft 4 so it's a bit of a squeeze in the Fiat but rather than taking the Jag and go down in comfort they chose to go all that way in the Fiat 500 just to keep the time down on the journey and avoid the anxiety that you get with an electric car. If that doesn't convince people what it's like to drive electric, nothing will. 🤣🤣🤣
There’s a coincidence, we had a week in Torquay using our EV with no problems. I stopped once at Ionity Chippenham on the way there, Lidl while in Torquay and again at Ionity Chippenham on the way back. 480 mile round trip. Total charging cost including the home charging before we left £23. Petrol car would need to achieve 158MPG at that rate. No range anxiety.
@@EVil-ob8in The point is, there aren't always chargers where you need them. The motorways are fine but once you're on the A roads you have to plan your route carefully and have a backup charger planned just in case your first choice is out of action. Try going to Whitby. There's no doubt electric is cheaper but I could probably do the same route in 2 to 3 hours less. I suppose it depends on what price you put on your time.. There's also the issue of daytrips away. There just ain't enough hours in a day for a 150 mile day trip to the coast or countryside with the family in an ev unless you're very lucky to find a destination charger that someone else isn't already using.
One of the problems with driving everyone off the road and on to public transport is the cost. Both my boys get the bus to school and back £4 each way..so £16 a day in total. My eldest son takes his test next week. In his car he'll be able to take both of them to school and back for £1.50! My wife had a conference in Taunton just over a week ago...going by train would have cost her firm much more than the 40p a mile they pay if she drives (and the journey was much quicker by car)...she also took a colleague...and brought 2 on the return journey due to a rail strike which would have meant another night in the hotel for the woman who came by train. She worked out that she saved her firm (a charity) over £600!! Private cars are popular because they are often the better (quicker and more cost effective) option. EV's should be able to stand on their own merits...if they are not better than ICE vehicles then they should go the way of the Dodo.
Look in to the synthetic fuel this is even cleaner than ev ,There’s a guy providing for classics and he is trying to open more stations .take a look on TH-cam the guy from custom and classic cars ch goes to try it out .
Although that forecourt looked clean and fresh, and maybe the future, considering the time of day it wasn't exactly crowded! I never like paying for anything on a card without either a receipt or at least a notification of the price/cost. But the biggest issue for me, as you rightly mentioned, is the time it adds to each journey - absolutely ridiculous. Meanwhile don't get me started on the crap reliability of the charging points, again as you illustrated. EVs, pah!!
The concern I have about EVs is the charging infrastructure when we are all forced into EVs. Petrol cars take about 5 minutes or less to refuel. EVs take 10 times that to recharge based on what you have shown us. That means that when we all have to drive EVs the charging stations will have to be massively larger than current service stations by about 10 times to handle the demand. They will have to provide cover from the weather, a restaurant and toilet facilities for hundreds of motorists at one time. There will be long queues at the entrance to the charging station, especially on highways with high volume traffic and frustrated people wasting hours of their life when they could be getting to their destination. I have noted that EV charging places are always tucked away in some far corner with no shelter about, out of sight, providing no safety or security for the driver while recharging the car. The proponents of EVs, like all those who advocate the green philosophy have not thought through the issue very well and it is being implemented in worse than a half baked manner. Just imagine the assaults that will happen as frustrated drivers fight over who is next at a particular charger and the number of people stranded when they get to a charger that has been vandalised or is otherwise not functioning. It will be mayhem.
Great video! I'm from Finland, and the push towards EVs is heavy here as well. In a country, where distances are long and winters cold... Doesn't make sense to me, but apparently the movement is to shut down 80% of the country and have every single person work from (concrete cube apartment) home in white collar jobs. Funny thing here is, on-road traffic creates approx. 20% of annual CO2 emissions here, yet I'm not reading much news on media about what is done to that remaining 80%. Instead, just the ICE cars are bad and if possible, you shouldn't drive at all.
When you plug in and it tells you "Setting up connection with the vehicle" then you have to worry. Any electrical appliance you just plug in and switch on and boom... electric. Why does the charge points have to communicate with your car? It just doesn't make sense. And those pods... £24 per hour???? How f'kin extortionate!!!
The average person will be priced out of owning a car. How many years to develop a secondhand market for affordable electric cars as has been developed for petrol cars over several decades? You are right, governments are seeking to restrict the public to using public transport, so that will be the future.
I have seen in the car news that Stelantis group who own Citroen, Peugeot, Vauxhall, Dodge, Alfa Romeo, Jeep and Fiat are now going to start making re-manufactured parts as they know no one can or will be able to afford their EV's, so want to help people who can't afford a EV keep their older cars going. Its a bit like saying we are screwing ourselves over because we listened to the government now we have to find another way of making money.
I will never go all electric The stopgap should have been hybrids at the most Until the EV network was Able to cope I'm waiting for my new Diesel Vauxhall Van for my business and in 8 to 10 years it'll be hybrids only I live in a mid terrace house with no street just a back alleyway that you can just about fit a vehicle up with a village Full of Terrace houses as well So basically majority of people are going to have to charge up 3..4 times maybe more a week away from home And you are right Lee the government want lower cast poor people out of there own vehicles onto public transport to help with Reducing the pollution levels Anyway thanks for a great video👍
I don't own a car, I've got an electric wheelchair and I love it, mind you it takes 15 hours to get a full charge, can't see you waiting that long for your car to charge. I'll give you a race one of the days 😂
Ev''s will never be the norm. Where I live would mean running a cable from the house to the car, if i could park outside my house and therefore making a trip hazard.
Hey Lee! I have to agree with Sarah on diesels! Mine gets 600-700 miles easy. I’m championing diesels as it’s a no brainer how far they go. Have noticed you see no diesels in car showrooms. It’s all about pushing hybrids, electric and petrol. I have ordered my next car as diesel without question. It’s a big no no to EV from me no matter how impressive the all electric station is. Still don’t think there will be enough for everyone. It’s sure not to work. Not controlling what I buy. Take care 😘👍🏻
Charging points in the outback would have to be powered by diesel generators I would imagine. That kind of defeats the object doesn’t it????? Cheers enjoyed the vlog. And yes the Carguys video on EVs is brilliant.
@@EE12CSVT that is right. Rip their gizzards out. Windmills are good for grinding meal. Diesel is always on and could be deregulated a smidge. It can be extremely economical. But natural gas is and was the magic remedy of all time after they turned against nuclear. They being the multi national green think tank. And I'm not for removing organs. Ew
Lee spot on as usual mate. The UK is not ev ready. Its years away and this is being forced through. With the rising electricity costs and the initial outlay to buy/lease a EV it's crazy
Great video mate!! Totally agree about the charity donating. I give £25 a month direct from my wages but then asked just about everywhere else to give more!!
Great video Lee. No way am I ever buying an electric car. I would rather walk, get the bus or get a train. I just can't see 100 of these swish new electric charging stations opening in the next few years. Too much hassle and too much extra stress involved.
Also, Mike, electric vans loaded with tradesman's tools , that misjudged their range due to carrying excess materials for their next job.The list is exhaustive.....
Great Video.. EV's isn't for me. Have you seen how expensive they are? I would prefer to fill up and go.. not wait nearly an hour. Cheers Mac. Were all being conned..
I'm not being funny but Connor is living in a dream world, saying it's the future imagine a truck with a trailer and another trailer with batteries and the charge time, Connor is living in a dream world
Ok one theory I heard is that they want us having 15 minute cities. Basically where we work and live with in a 15 minute radius. I drive 30 to 40 minutes to work based on traffic and weather conditions. Also work for a company that is heavy into supplying racing equipment so if they can legally force us by 2030 to have everyone in an electric car, I have no idea what I would do for work. Not close enough to retire but to old for most companies to hire. I just don't think the oil companies and the big car companies are going to go away without a fight. Yes a few have made hybrid and some have done a couple all electric. However America is huge and we don't have the set up for electric like we do for gas powered cars. So even if they would convert all gas stations to electric, who in their right mind wants to wait for an hour for the vehicle to charge?
Well my father was in ww2 to make sure me and you had the freedoms we had growing up .15 min city’s are a fact they want but it’s take an inch then a mile .you realy do need to reasearch this ,The oil company’s are ok due to the current climate as in certain country’s keeping it the way it is and the west going the test route .ie nz aus uk eu ,the rest are not on board .what do you want for you’re fam .I surest you start paying attention to what’s going on .peace .get involved .
There’s a problem with infrastructure and technology not moving fast enough! We live off grid with no mains electric, we rely on solar power with battery storage. Apparently I’m a dinosaur because I’m still using forklift batteries for storage….. All the people on Facebook and TH-cam using these new fancy pylontech lithium batteries are facing problems with them crashing and software not updating 😅 I’m happy to be a dinosaur that drives a diesel car, diesel rangerover and 3 euro 4 transit vans…
Sorry to flood you with comments… I was born in the middle of Illinois in 1961. Only a few years before I was born, the last of the electric interurban trains and in-city electric trams were eliminated… BUT: for several decades before then, in that cluster of small cities spaced about fifty miles apart in the middle of Illinois, Decatur (my birthplace and where I grew up), Springfield, Bloomington-Normal, Champaign-Urbana, and possibly Danville, I understand that one could get on an electric tram in many parts of those cities, go to the train station, take an electric train to the next city over, take another electric train to the next city again if desired, and ride an electric tram to many parts of the destination city. All gone. Now if people in those places must switch to electric vehicles again, they’re really in trouble. Electric buses in each city, perhaps, and lousy electric cars. Good luck to them. The trains between cities were run by the electric companies. Unheard of now. Perhaps I would have hated actually using those trams and trains. I don’t know. Before my time.
Tomorrow I'll be driving down to Florida from my home in Pennsylvania which is around 920 miles. Will do in one go, 15 hours of straight driving. Not possible in a EV unless I was planning on several stops. My vehicle is a 2004 Toyota Sequoia, only averages 18 mpg, cost me around $180 in gas for the trip but the vehicle only cost me $4000 and is so reliable. PS. Your honestly about EV's are appreciated.
China have developed new batteries.. 1000 mile range.. next year.. and last for life batteries before 2030… fully synthetic fuel will be available by then.. bye bye electric.. great vid dude xx
Two comments I would like to make Lee. 1. I live on a small island (La Palma), which is smaller than the Isle of Wight. We do have EVs, and even some chargers so they may work here, but I am deaf, so unless I keep my eyes open, I might not live long enough to see, one way or the other, because I can't hear them coming! 2. I remember a few years ago going to Pease Pottage Services. I went to the gents, but there was an enormous queue for the ladies. As I walked past the queue, the women looked at me daggers! Like it was my fault. I got out quick before the gents was annexed by the women, as usually happens!
wait till they get a bill for a new battery for the EVs the car company's are lying about the actual price of them. Collin the only way the EVs will work is to get them down to $25,000 again the mining and the battery replacement will kill it.
Oh dear, I'm at the age now where I'd have more use for a Little Chef than an adult shop on the A1! 😂 Was a documentary worth watching on TH-cam "Blood Batteries" One country in Africa has something like 70% of the world's mines for the raw material needed for batteries, China owned 80% of the production. Many mine owners use children to mine as they require much smaller tunnels to crawl through than adults. They work 10 to 12 hours a day for $1 a day! 2000+ reportedly die each year doing their jobs, many others are badly hurt due to lack of safety measures. I still have my EV on order but am having serious doubts and am actively looking at ICE alternative.
Lee there are currently about 1.4 billion cars,trucks and buses in the world. Totally irrational for anyone to even think these could all be replaced with electric vehicles once let alone forever and a day
Look at the size of the EV charging garage and how much bigger it is compared to a normal petrol station,that's not very environmentally friendly using more land up ! Oh and liking your channel 👍
Exactly. The forecourts will have to be out of town, built on green belt land (controversial). The current four or two pump forecourts in towns and villages will not be able to adapt to the EV charging like the one shown. They will disappear. So how many of these mammoth charging centres will we need to provide the same service as current fuel stations? I still feel the infrastructure will not exist.
Part of the reason people tell you to only charge to 80% is the batteries take much longer to charge past that point. Mine can charge at around 120kW when it’s nearly empty but slows down to more like 11kW when nearly full. In other words, it can save you time to split the charging.
You remember when you were in Scotland and the charge was slowed down because of the number of cars charging. I wonder if all the bays at that electric forecourt were full would it slow the charging down there? The sticky tables. It's the sanitiser spray they use to clean tables now.
As one who in the past would have to drive 200-300 miles in a day to attend a customer meeting and return home, I am glad that I am now retired. Clearly EV’s will put an end to that sort of practice and EV’s will force sales people to stay overnight or companies will have to change the way they work. Great video although if I am critical it could be a little shorter, but then if you are a sales person driving an EV and having to stay away overnight you will have plenty of time to view it. Perhaps the Adult stores on the A1 have seen a future with EV’s and people staying away from home on business.
As someone with an electric car that doesn’t have a vested interest in exploiting peoples confirmation bias I can tell it isn’t a problem. My car will real world do 230 miles on a charge. I can charge it to do that on my drive at home for less than £5. If I plug it in at rapid charger, I can add 100 miles of range back on in about 25 mins for £18. Perfect time for a pee and grabbing a drink. I can then plug it in at home for a dirt cheap overnight charge again for the following day.
I'm predicting that 2029 will see record sales of new petrol and diesel cars in the UK. And second hand-prices for these cars will exponentially increase from 2030 onwards.
Other morning after a rain storm, I was driving an ICE car, usually I take a right at this traffic light but there was a huge puddle so I kept driving straight. Had I been driving the EV and I went through that puddle (which probably wasn't salt water but maybe, there is a fresh water river near it that leads to the ocean), then in the back of mind I would wonder if I waterlogged the underfloor battery which can lead to random thermal runaway ie 5,000 degree Fahrenheit unstoppable Lithium Battery Fire. And what happens as the undercarriage of these vehicles rust through from all the winter salt on the roads? We shall see... Keep up the videos Lee!
We have to take our car and motorhome for a test every two years here in France, every time I put an additive in the fuel tank which gives perfect emission figures, so why do I need to scrap my car? There is a gadget built in to a Citroen C5 which injects an additive into the fuel intake as you drive which gives zero bad emission. I dont know if any other manufacturers do the same but why cant fuel suppliers add an emission additive at source so all cars can drive cleanly? Fuel is never going to run out so
I have driven from Western Australia to Queensland. I left around 6am Monday morning and arrived around 4pm Friday afternoon. This was 5 days of hard driving at speed, probably around 1000km per day, there was no traffic on my route. If I tried that in an electric car I would still be travelling. I drive between 200 - 500km per day for work, sometimes more, sometimes in remote areas. There's no way an electric car would work here. The EV charging centre looks set up for plenty of impulse buying as people while away the time it takes to charge their cars. As you say, it's not just the cost of the electricity, it's the cost of the coffee and the other impulse buys too. Petrol and Diesel are about half of the UK price here. My personal car is a 6 litre V8. I won't be giving it up any time soon. There's no congestion or clean air charges here in Western Australia, we don't have MOT tests or the same thing under a different name either. It's pretty good for us motorists.
Interesting that you should bring up cost of charging per mile compared to diesel. My diesel Civic manages about 550 miles from a (now expensive compared to petrol) £70 tank full, so the cost per mile is probably comparable to home charging. Even more strange is that my "dirty" diesel produces so little CO2 that I have no road tax to pay (yet) but will get stung in Birmingham's ULEZ zone. My fiancee has an old petrol Corsa that chucks out 50% more CO2, and yet is ULEZ exempt. Clearly the government is doing everything it can to get diesels off the road. Of course, when they promoted diesels over petrol, they were slow and agricultural. Now they are nice engines that get more mpg and last longer (so fewer new car purchases), so governments are making less from car tax sales and fuel tax from diesel drivers. Little wonder that the government don't want the average joe to be able to drive them... Of course the government has an ulterior motive for getting us all into EV's. They don't want people like me to be able to hold onto a "dirty" diesel for 20 years plus - think of all the sales tax they are missing out on. Far better to force them to change their cars, and then to have something disposable (which, given the requirement for new batteries would practically make any EV an economic write-off, I very much class them as disposable items). Green issues? Nope. It's all about the money.
Every thing you have said in this VLOG re EV vehicles i agree with. Lets push towards EV then put the electric prices through the roof, same with LPG which used to be burned off as a by product so lets convert to LPG then the prices went through the roof...
Thank you for showing me what it’s like to actually live with an electric car. It’s clear to me that these issues are being covered up by the EV communities and car journalists who are probably getting bigger kick backs for promoting EVs. Car of the year always an EV these days no coincidence. We are constantly being told that we don’t need to travel more than 30 miles so you don’t need anything else. Well I’m sorry but our fossil fuel cars are designed for all requirements and give us freedom to choose and are convenient and flexible for all kinds of travel and I don’t want to lose that thank you. We are being asked to sacrifice something that works very well for the greater good well they should have prove it unequivocally before we accept this premise. There is no proof just trumped up temperature data correlated against climate. I’m 53 I have seen no change in my life time, if there was a drastic change wouldn’t we be playing cricket in the winter here?
Money money money! Who can afford the time and expense of eating and drinking your life away while waiting for your car to charge,add kids to that and you can forget it. They don't want the masses driving.
I appreciate your honest reviews on the ev, I feel they have saved me wasting a load of money. I decided to order a mild hybrid in the end. The electric forecourt would not be so relaxing if the number of Evs it was dealing with were significantly increased. It is important to bear in mind the guarantee on batteries, and the significant cost on replacing them. I feel the time wasted in charging is a significant concern. They may be alright for pottering about town, but long distance travelling is another issue.
As a OAP one of the few pleasures I have left is the ability to travel to interesting places when I want and in the relative comfort of my diesel car. There is no way I could afford a EV so that's my future travel enjoyment negated by the edict of an idiot PM and a equally incompetent government.
Great entertainment for a Saturday evening Lee. With you 100% and share your vlogs too. It's all about control as you say and that's frighteningly sad for my generation who roamed this country and our world at will on 4 wheels. If you watch the Itchy Boots channel a lone woman touring south and north America on a motor bike, you'll see the stupidity of this project. The distances, the infrastructure, just too big to overcome. Their continent relies on huge ICE wagons for supplies and live without electric power because of the terrain. I wish you well in your crusade and I'm sure you're having an impact. Drive safe.
I live in Australia . The drivers here are of the opinion “ big country big engine “ , and although I may not be in that camp when considering EV’ s they may well have a point , and I dont see any government trying the bully boy tactics of enforcing an EV only policy any time soon . The problem is , Australia is in effect 8 seperate countries , each state and territory having its own government with questionable unity , so getting a universal EV rule is unlikely . Sometimes dysunity has its advantages . BTW the man with the arm up Sootys backside was Matthew Corbett, you are lucky Lee it was Sooty who invited you on the stage , it could have been worse , it could have been Rolf Harris 😉.
I’m with you on why EV are being pushed, don’t want the plebs to be mobile any longer, I’m about to buy a new diesel, hopefully last me a few years and probably be my last new car, choice is getting limited though.
Leeds Vs Arsenal game stopped due to electrical power cut!!! Yeah, we are so ready for an all electric future 😀 😀 less reliable than a Dacia. Somebody have a word with these people pushing electric cars, it's laughable
In 2010 when I left corporate life to start my own business, I gave up my company car. Then I did the maths - my car spent it's life at airport car parks, car parks in city centres when visiting clients, in the garage at my home it was parked more than used. I had to pay to park it as well at cost of owning it and using it. So went I for short rental (by the hour), taxi's, trains and traditional rental it is much cheaper. Lets face you don't need to worry about rentals, treat them bad, and you can pick different models. I pick on my mood and what I want to do (let my inner boy racer out). I have a long term contract with my rental company so that saves even more money and they deliver it to where ever I want. And it is tax deductible , no way the tax man is going find out what I amusing for so I throw them a bone of personal use. For me paying to park a chunk of metal didn't cost in, not even leasing.
@@bigwideworld387 Not where I live , We have 4 providers now . Its an app , you drive an leave it where want - within the city limits . You see where the car is , unlock it with your phone , off you go. It doesn't work in the country side ..needs a metropolitan area.
Hi Lee that gridserve near Braintree is brilliant, but it's as you found not in a convenient location. Should have been at least close to the M11 or M25. Also if you have a leaf they only have one charger with the correct DC connector. Loved my leaf but have returned to a ice car.
You could say it is a good thing to have to stop to charge and take a break for road safety. 200 plus miles without a break is not safe. Do love your videos.
I'd like to see you make a vlog where you sit down with somebody like "EVM" who is another TH-camr who (controversially?) likes his EV, to discuss some of your points. EVM is a sensible, no nonsense Yorkshireman, and it would be interesting hear you both discussing your different views on EVs with each other. You have some valid points about the current poor state of the public charging infrastructure, which EVM would probably agree with, but it could be entertaining to see the pair of you exploding the myths perpetuated on both sides of the EV ownership debate. In 2030 you won't be able to buy a NEW ICE car, but those already on the road will remain on the road. Oil is a finite resource. We need to find a viable long term replacement for our transportation need. Hydrogen is the only other potentially viable fuel available today, but if you thought it was tough finding an EV charger, try finding a Hydrogen filling station. Peace and love...
Diesel is more future proof but people scoff at em. Diesel is easier to refine. The range is usually close to double for little pipsqueak cars. Lightweight is a key requirement to get great mileage
People are terrified of Diesel soot in particular and fine particulates in general. It’s the next big health panic, particulates. Not sure that there’s anything to worry about, but the reports of new research seem calculated to cause worry…
@@markiangooley the problem is when they decided that all the soot basically has to be trapped and later burned off. Regens for the particulate filter. Also the engine is heavily regulated to never be efficient. They just hate diesel.
Firstly, great video and content , really enjoy the way you present and congratulations. Re the EV , you are the first and probably only current blogger to expose the truth about the day to day living with an EV. Surely the future of motoring and travelling should easier , cheaper , enjoyable and faster. However thud is showing EV being the complete opposite in all ways . First of the range is poor , it’s expensive now to charge and as you have shown slower and you end buying things you don’t need whilst waiting to charge. How would you cope with kids hanging around at these places for example. You are correctly it’s not the future, it’s certainly not fit for purpose . What I don’t understand is traditional ice car manufacturers are spending billions of these cars and they are useless. Why in a so called Democratic society are we allowing this to happen. All of our freedoms are being taken away steadily and we allow them to do so. Keep up the great content
The frustrations of this journey actually started to give me a headache to watch. I am absolutely resolute that I will not be sucked into the EV community. I envision that the UK might end up like Cuba and and a community of drivers will keep running old cars until the last drop of dinosaur juice is drawn from the earth.
So, you lost 50 minutes to charge your car, when you could fill the tank up in 5 minutes, in any petrol station and be already in your destination! Now how many hours of life will you spend on these charging stations? Waist of precious time for sure!
Just a thought...Emissions are the big talk for getting people to convert to EV's...The EU has set an interim target of 55% emission reduction by 2030, set in the European Climate Law. The EU has launched various initiatives to reach these targets. If countries leaders reach these various targets earlier, are they given a cash bonus incentive and a better standing on the political front? This could be a major reason for the hype, the hype which actually covers up the damning facts around EV production resourcing and bad investment in the infrastructure needed. The faster public /companies convert the quicker the figures drop. This is not a bad thing for the environment we would all agree, as road travel accounts for three-quarters of transport emissions. Most of this comes from passenger vehicles - cars and buses - which contribute 45.1%. The other 29.4% comes from trucks carrying freight. Surely big incentives would have to be implemented so as to help the changeover. So far it just looks as though it is a money grab and not in the interest of buyers of EV's. Food for thought if nothing else. You had a roof over the charging forecourt Lee, makes a refreshing change. Don't forget...It's all for the greater good bud (the greater good!)...All the best
Have to say the charging station looked rather nice I thought. No fumes, no getting fuel on the bottom of your trainers and a well presented rest area. Still won't be getting a milk float though😉
MBS is right behind you . What I get from your videos is that the Motorways are chockablock with people driving over 100 miles to have fish and chips when my dad would just walk to the chipper.
"Our fuel spill is a sunny day." That's what it said at the Electric Forecourt. I would have thought that the fuel spill might actually be a nasty electric shock.
I love my 10 year old diesel 2.2L Mazda 3 and near 700 miles in range just the price in diesel is annoying me having gone up a couple of pence a litre over the last week or so. I’ve done 24 thousand miles this year in it with no issues at all
Think The EV Puzzle YT channel went to the Norwich one of these. I don't think their expansion plans are adventurous enough, even at 100 stations -- what happens if there were an exponential growth in EV sales? That station was almost empty ... think about it -- 32M licensed cars in the UK, you need one of this size charging station for every (say) 2 or 3 petrol stations that we have now...UNLESS the future is only for those few that can afford an EV, and want a meeting in a pod while charging. EVs are like veganism...(mostly) a kids or wealthy person's choice...
Would never own electric car, because I could never afford one. Now i would love to win one in some sort of competition etc. First thing I would try to do is sell it and buy a nice new internal combustion engine car and bank the cash left over.
The only thing that has an electric future is the train. Even the battery trains are in an experimental phase. 5 years to build and operate 100 EV forecourts, I think your hotel room at Premier Inn has more chance of a refurb.
Pease Pottage is a village in the Mid Sussex District of West Sussex, England. It lies on the southern edge of the Crawley built-up area, in the civil parish of Slaugham. The village has a motorway service station, named after the village, which also serves as a local shop for the residents of the village.
Although the new electric forecourt is very swanky I’m interested in how they will cope with the heavy load when everyone has EV’s. Petrol forecourts that take only a minute or two of your time filling the car can be congested at times. When it takes upwards of 40 minutes to have any kind of charge that will be good for a medium journey the congestion will be unmanageable.
If and when everyone has ev's, the grid will not be able to cope and will shut down , due to overload! End of problem and we will all go back to diesel and petrol because everyone would be dying due to lack of heating etc. Unless of course someone invents nuclear fusion, which really is not on the cards, way it looks at the mo.
EVs ? I don't think so.
They have enormous battery banks in shipping containers on site (you can see them out the window at one point). They contain enough energy to charge cars for over a week, so it’s not an issue. They have thought of that.
Yeah looks pretty with nobody there but as Lee says they don't want us in cars, so will always be empty 😉
@@matthewdowning6009 he was referring to the time required for charging not the capacity.
How much are they overcharging on the electric?
As I've mentioned, I got rid of my Jaguar IPace and returned back to a petrol car however my brother recently got an Ipace, his wife has a Fiat 500 petrol version. They live near Leeds and recently had a weeks holiday in Torquay. My brother is 6ft 4 so it's a bit of a squeeze in the Fiat but rather than taking the Jag and go down in comfort they chose to go all that way in the Fiat 500 just to keep the time down on the journey and avoid the anxiety that you get with an electric car. If that doesn't convince people what it's like to drive electric, nothing will. 🤣🤣🤣
There’s a coincidence, we had a week in Torquay using our EV with no problems. I stopped once at Ionity Chippenham on the way there, Lidl while in Torquay and again at Ionity Chippenham on the way back. 480 mile round trip. Total charging cost including the home charging before we left £23. Petrol car would need to achieve 158MPG at that rate. No range anxiety.
@@EVil-ob8in The point is, there aren't always chargers where you need them. The motorways are fine but once you're on the A roads you have to plan your route carefully and have a backup charger planned just in case your first choice is out of action. Try going to Whitby.
There's no doubt electric is cheaper but I could probably do the same route in 2 to 3 hours less. I suppose it depends on what price you put on your time..
There's also the issue of daytrips away. There just ain't enough hours in a day for a 150 mile day trip to the coast or countryside with the family in an ev unless you're very lucky to find a destination charger that someone else isn't already using.
Garbage ev made by a 4th rate company what did you expect? have you seen the sales of that thing.
@@EVil-ob8inIt all went well? You must have done it wrong. 😂😂😂
@@grahamf695 😂 still going 💪
I've got 2 V8s and my wife has a flat 6.
That's the way it's staying.
Forever.
Amen.
Keep up the great work mate.
One of the problems with driving everyone off the road and on to public transport is the cost. Both my boys get the bus to school and back £4 each way..so £16 a day in total. My eldest son takes his test next week. In his car he'll be able to take both of them to school and back for £1.50! My wife had a conference in Taunton just over a week ago...going by train would have cost her firm much more than the 40p a mile they pay if she drives (and the journey was much quicker by car)...she also took a colleague...and brought 2 on the return journey due to a rail strike which would have meant another night in the hotel for the woman who came by train. She worked out that she saved her firm (a charity) over £600!!
Private cars are popular because they are often the better (quicker and more cost effective) option.
EV's should be able to stand on their own merits...if they are not better than ICE vehicles then they should go the way of the Dodo.
Look in to the synthetic fuel this is even cleaner than ev ,There’s a guy providing for classics and he is trying to open more stations .take a look on TH-cam the guy from custom and classic cars ch goes to try it out .
Although that forecourt looked clean and fresh, and maybe the future, considering the time of day it wasn't exactly crowded! I never like paying for anything on a card without either a receipt or at least a notification of the price/cost. But the biggest issue for me, as you rightly mentioned, is the time it adds to each journey - absolutely ridiculous. Meanwhile don't get me started on the crap reliability of the charging points, again as you illustrated. EVs, pah!!
Several stops, many coffees and bites to eat... So in a diesel I would have just drank my water and been there hours earlier... Madness
Found a hooker, had sex, had dinner, snoozed had a beer & still waiting for you to show up.?
The concern I have about EVs is the charging infrastructure when we are all forced into EVs. Petrol cars take about 5 minutes or less to refuel. EVs take 10 times that to recharge based on what you have shown us. That means that when we all have to drive EVs the charging stations will have to be massively larger than current service stations by about 10 times to handle the demand. They will have to provide cover from the weather, a restaurant and toilet facilities for hundreds of motorists at one time. There will be long queues at the entrance to the charging station, especially on highways with high volume traffic and frustrated people wasting hours of their life when they could be getting to their destination. I have noted that EV charging places are always tucked away in some far corner with no shelter about, out of sight, providing no safety or security for the driver while recharging the car. The proponents of EVs, like all those who advocate the green philosophy have not thought through the issue very well and it is being implemented in worse than a half baked manner. Just imagine the assaults that will happen as frustrated drivers fight over who is next at a particular charger and the number of people stranded when they get to a charger that has been vandalised or is otherwise not functioning. It will be mayhem.
Great video! I'm from Finland, and the push towards EVs is heavy here as well. In a country, where distances are long and winters cold... Doesn't make sense to me, but apparently the movement is to shut down 80% of the country and have every single person work from (concrete cube apartment) home in white collar jobs. Funny thing here is, on-road traffic creates approx. 20% of annual CO2 emissions here, yet I'm not reading much news on media about what is done to that remaining 80%. Instead, just the ICE cars are bad and if possible, you shouldn't drive at all.
When you plug in and it tells you "Setting up connection with the vehicle" then you have to worry.
Any electrical appliance you just plug in and switch on and boom... electric.
Why does the charge points have to communicate with your car?
It just doesn't make sense.
And those pods... £24 per hour???? How f'kin extortionate!!!
Love the content. Thanks for bringing it to us as it comes. People need to know what they are getting into. Life can't Wait around to charge.
One more thing people should avoid Costa coffee after they banned unvaxed from their shops in Ireland! That's was discrimination at the highest !
As I hate overpriced nasty coffee (Costa, Starbucks etc) that's another reason not to have an EV...
The average person will be priced out of owning a car. How many years to develop a secondhand market for affordable electric cars as has been developed for petrol cars over several decades? You are right, governments are seeking to restrict the public to using public transport, so that will be the future.
World Economic Forum by 2030: The Great Reset-"You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy."
@barry carleton
….. “and eating bugs”. Apparently the NWO Agenda is “for the greater good”!! 😡
I can see a time where there is a big industry importing 2nd hand internal combustion engine cars simply because we cant buy new ones .
I have seen in the car news that Stelantis group who own Citroen, Peugeot, Vauxhall, Dodge, Alfa Romeo, Jeep and Fiat are now going to start making re-manufactured parts as they know no one can or will be able to afford their EV's, so want to help people who can't afford a EV keep their older cars going. Its a bit like saying we are screwing ourselves over because we listened to the government now we have to find another way of making money.
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I will never go all electric
The stopgap should have been hybrids at the most Until the EV network was Able to cope
I'm waiting for my new Diesel Vauxhall Van for my business and in 8 to 10 years it'll be hybrids only I live in a mid terrace house with no street just a back alleyway that you can just about fit a vehicle up with a village Full of Terrace houses as well
So basically majority of people are going to have to charge up 3..4 times maybe more a week away from home And you are right Lee the government want lower cast poor people out of there own vehicles onto public transport to help with Reducing the pollution levels
Anyway thanks for a great video👍
I don't own a car, I've got an electric wheelchair and I love it, mind you it takes 15 hours to get a full charge, can't see you waiting that long for your car to charge. I'll give you a race one of the days 😂
Ev''s will never be the norm. Where I live would mean running a cable from the house to the car, if i could park outside my house and therefore making a trip hazard.
Hey Lee! I have to agree with Sarah on diesels! Mine gets 600-700 miles easy. I’m championing diesels as it’s a no brainer how far they go. Have noticed you see no diesels in car showrooms. It’s all about pushing hybrids, electric and petrol. I have ordered my next car as diesel without question. It’s a big no no to EV from me no matter how impressive the all electric station is. Still don’t think there will be enough for everyone. It’s sure not to work. Not controlling what I buy. Take care 😘👍🏻
Those pedal bike chargers will be a game changer. Not.
Whatever the government pressures you or bribes you to do, do the opposite.
It's a guaranteed winner.
Charging points in the outback would have to be powered by diesel generators I would imagine. That kind of defeats the object doesn’t it?????
Cheers enjoyed the vlog. And yes the Carguys video on EVs is brilliant.
solar and wind with large battery banks.
Yes, there are four green shipping containers visible at 31:29. I expect they contain gensets.
@@richardbartlett6932 ...backed up by diesel gensets doing all the work.
@@EE12CSVT that is right. Rip their gizzards out. Windmills are good for grinding meal. Diesel is always on and could be deregulated a smidge. It can be extremely economical. But natural gas is and was the magic remedy of all time after they turned against nuclear. They being the multi national green think tank. And I'm not for removing organs. Ew
@@EE12CSVT possible but I don't see exhausts for them so not entirely convinced
Lee spot on as usual mate. The UK is not ev ready. Its years away and this is being forced through. With the rising electricity costs and the initial outlay to buy/lease a EV it's crazy
Great video mate!! Totally agree about the charity donating. I give £25 a month direct from my wages but then asked just about everywhere else to give more!!
Lee, keep up the good work, less people who drive an EV the more vacant chargers we get 😂
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Great video Lee. No way am I ever buying an electric car. I would rather walk, get the bus or get a train. I just can't see 100 of these swish new electric charging stations opening in the next few years. Too much hassle and too much extra stress involved.
The future is the hard shoulder is parked up with out of charge EVs while the petrol/diesel vehicles are moving like real life 👌🏻
Also, Mike, electric vans loaded with tradesman's tools , that misjudged their range due to carrying excess materials for their next job.The list is exhaustive.....
Electric Cars: A plan that doesn't work to fix a problem that doesn't exist
Spot on...gold award comment! 👍🏻😎🏆
aka....its all BS. Why in the world would anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together listen to anything the govt says....
Great Video.. EV's isn't for me. Have you seen how expensive they are? I would prefer to fill up and go.. not wait nearly an hour. Cheers Mac. Were all being conned..
Just got first drive in a Tesla S Plaid, most incredible machine a civilian can buy in the world. Fabulous in every way possible!
@@pauldavies6037 According to what I just Googled 136,000 dollars. WTF !
I'm not being funny but Connor is living in a dream world, saying it's the future imagine a truck with a trailer and another trailer with batteries and the charge time, Connor is living in a dream world
Don't know what's worse, not being able to charge your EV or living in a vegans dream world... actually, both are pretty terrifying to imagine.
Ok one theory I heard is that they want us having 15 minute cities. Basically where we work and live with in a 15 minute radius. I drive 30 to 40 minutes to work based on traffic and weather conditions. Also work for a company that is heavy into supplying racing equipment so if they can legally force us by 2030 to have everyone in an electric car, I have no idea what I would do for work. Not close enough to retire but to old for most companies to hire. I just don't think the oil companies and the big car companies are going to go away without a fight. Yes a few have made hybrid and some have done a couple all electric. However America is huge and we don't have the set up for electric like we do for gas powered cars. So even if they would convert all gas stations to electric, who in their right mind wants to wait for an hour for the vehicle to charge?
Well my father was in ww2 to make sure me and you had the freedoms we had growing up .15 min city’s are a fact they want but it’s take an inch then a mile .you realy do need to reasearch this ,The oil company’s are ok due to the current climate as in certain country’s keeping it the way it is and the west going the test route .ie nz aus uk eu ,the rest are not on board .what do you want for you’re fam .I surest you start paying attention to what’s going on .peace .get involved .
There’s a problem with infrastructure and technology not moving fast enough!
We live off grid with no mains electric, we rely on solar power with battery storage.
Apparently I’m a dinosaur because I’m still using forklift batteries for storage…..
All the people on Facebook and TH-cam using these new fancy pylontech lithium batteries are facing problems with them crashing and software not updating 😅
I’m happy to be a dinosaur that drives a diesel car, diesel rangerover and 3 euro 4 transit vans…
Sorry to flood you with comments… I was born in the middle of Illinois in 1961. Only a few years before I was born, the last of the electric interurban trains and in-city electric trams were eliminated… BUT: for several decades before then, in that cluster of small cities spaced about fifty miles apart in the middle of Illinois, Decatur (my birthplace and where I grew up), Springfield, Bloomington-Normal, Champaign-Urbana, and possibly Danville, I understand that one could get on an electric tram in many parts of those cities, go to the train station, take an electric train to the next city over, take another electric train to the next city again if desired, and ride an electric tram to many parts of the destination city.
All gone. Now if people in those places must switch to electric vehicles again, they’re really in trouble. Electric buses in each city, perhaps, and lousy electric cars. Good luck to them.
The trains between cities were run by the electric companies. Unheard of now. Perhaps I would have hated actually using those trams and trains. I don’t know. Before my time.
Tomorrow I'll be driving down to Florida from my home in Pennsylvania which is around 920 miles. Will do in one go, 15 hours of straight driving. Not possible in a EV unless I was planning on several stops. My vehicle is a 2004 Toyota Sequoia, only averages 18 mpg, cost me around $180 in gas for the trip but the vehicle only cost me $4000 and is so reliable.
PS. Your honestly about EV's are appreciated.
15 hrs straight driving? I'd suggest you're a danger to other road users.
China have developed new batteries.. 1000 mile range.. next year.. and last for life batteries before 2030… fully synthetic fuel will be available by then.. bye bye electric.. great vid dude xx
Don't let the vile threats get you down ..they are keyboard cowards 😤
Two comments I would like to make Lee.
1. I live on a small island (La Palma), which is smaller than the Isle of Wight. We do have EVs, and even some chargers so they may work here, but I am deaf, so unless I keep my eyes open, I might not live long enough to see, one way or the other, because I can't hear them coming!
2. I remember a few years ago going to Pease Pottage Services. I went to the gents, but there was an enormous queue for the ladies. As I walked past the queue, the women looked at me daggers! Like it was my fault. I got out quick before the gents was annexed by the women, as usually happens!
what happens to resale values when the batteries a long in the tooth. is the car basically worthless ?
do electric charging station have price boards like petrol and diesel so you can compare ?
wait till they get a bill for a new battery for the EVs the car company's are lying about the actual price of them. Collin the only way the EVs will work is to get them down to $25,000 again the mining and the battery replacement will kill it.
I've been watching you for sometime now over the months but I can't ever remember you saying you had an electric car.😀😀😀😀😀
Oh dear, I'm at the age now where I'd have more use for a Little Chef than an adult shop on the A1! 😂
Was a documentary worth watching on TH-cam "Blood Batteries"
One country in Africa has something like 70% of the world's mines for the raw material needed for batteries, China owned 80% of the production. Many mine owners use children to mine as they require much smaller tunnels to crawl through than adults. They work 10 to 12 hours a day for $1 a day!
2000+ reportedly die each year doing their jobs, many others are badly hurt due to lack of safety measures.
I still have my EV on order but am having serious doubts and am actively looking at ICE alternative.
Lee there are currently about 1.4 billion cars,trucks and buses in the world. Totally irrational for anyone to even think these could all be replaced with electric vehicles once let alone forever and a day
Look at the size of the EV charging garage and how much bigger it is compared to a normal petrol station,that's not very environmentally friendly using more land up !
Oh and liking your channel 👍
Exactly. The forecourts will have to be out of town, built on green belt land (controversial). The current four or two pump forecourts in towns and villages will not be able to adapt to the EV charging like the one shown. They will disappear. So how many of these mammoth charging centres will we need to provide the same service as current fuel stations? I still feel the infrastructure will not exist.
Part of the reason people tell you to only charge to 80% is the batteries take much longer to charge past that point. Mine can charge at around 120kW when it’s nearly empty but slows down to more like 11kW when nearly full. In other words, it can save you time to split the charging.
You remember when you were in Scotland and the charge was slowed down because of the number of cars charging. I wonder if all the bays at that electric forecourt were full would it slow the charging down there?
The sticky tables. It's the sanitiser spray they use to clean tables now.
But if it is sticky, it can't be clean!
As one who in the past would have to drive 200-300 miles in a day to attend a customer meeting and return home, I am glad that I am now retired. Clearly EV’s will put an end to that sort of practice and EV’s will force sales people to stay overnight or companies will have to change the way they work. Great video although if I am critical it could be a little shorter, but then if you are a sales person driving an EV and having to stay away overnight you will have plenty of time to view it. Perhaps the Adult stores on the A1 have seen a future with EV’s and people staying away from home on business.
As someone with an electric car that doesn’t have a vested interest in exploiting peoples confirmation bias I can tell it isn’t a problem. My car will real world do 230 miles on a charge. I can charge it to do that on my drive at home for less than £5. If I plug it in at rapid charger, I can add 100 miles of range back on in about 25 mins for £18. Perfect time for a pee and grabbing a drink. I can then plug it in at home for a dirt cheap overnight charge again for the following day.
I'm predicting that 2029 will see record sales of new petrol and diesel cars in the UK.
And second hand-prices for these cars will exponentially increase from 2030 onwards.
You got that right pal, I'll be at the front of the queue 🤣
There you go Lee. Do a review on one of the Adult stores. I'd put money on the fact you'd get a load more subscribers 👍👍👍👍
Lol..!
"Let me just finish this chocolate thong and then we'll go outside and give it marks out of 10".
Other morning after a rain storm, I was driving an ICE car, usually I take a right at this traffic light but there was a huge puddle so I kept driving straight. Had I been driving the EV and I went through that puddle (which probably wasn't salt water but maybe, there is a fresh water river near it that leads to the ocean), then in the back of mind I would wonder if I waterlogged the underfloor battery which can lead to random thermal runaway ie 5,000 degree Fahrenheit unstoppable Lithium Battery Fire. And what happens as the undercarriage of these vehicles rust through from all the winter salt on the roads? We shall see...
Keep up the videos Lee!
We have to take our car and motorhome for a test every two years here in France, every time I put an additive in the fuel tank which gives perfect emission figures, so why do I need to scrap my car? There is a gadget built in to a Citroen C5 which injects an additive into the fuel intake as you drive which gives zero bad emission. I dont know if any other manufacturers do the same but why cant fuel suppliers add an emission additive at source so all cars can drive cleanly? Fuel is never going to run out so
I saw a report that said that the lithium necessary for the manufacture of the batteries will be exhausted by 2040. If that is true we are all f…….
Exactly. They don't want us driving.
Don’t worry, it’s not true.
@@tom_hoots I also read that the vast majority of lithium comes from China
I have driven from Western Australia to Queensland. I left around 6am Monday morning and arrived around 4pm Friday afternoon. This was 5 days of hard driving at speed, probably around 1000km per day, there was no traffic on my route. If I tried that in an electric car I would still be travelling. I drive between 200 - 500km per day for work, sometimes more, sometimes in remote areas. There's no way an electric car would work here. The EV charging centre looks set up for plenty of impulse buying as people while away the time it takes to charge their cars. As you say, it's not just the cost of the electricity, it's the cost of the coffee and the other impulse buys too. Petrol and Diesel are about half of the UK price here. My personal car is a 6 litre V8. I won't be giving it up any time soon. There's no congestion or clean air charges here in Western Australia, we don't have MOT tests or the same thing under a different name either. It's pretty good for us motorists.
Have you thought about doing a European trip to see how other countries compare charging point wise?
Interesting that you should bring up cost of charging per mile compared to diesel. My diesel Civic manages about 550 miles from a (now expensive compared to petrol) £70 tank full, so the cost per mile is probably comparable to home charging. Even more strange is that my "dirty" diesel produces so little CO2 that I have no road tax to pay (yet) but will get stung in Birmingham's ULEZ zone. My fiancee has an old petrol Corsa that chucks out 50% more CO2, and yet is ULEZ exempt.
Clearly the government is doing everything it can to get diesels off the road. Of course, when they promoted diesels over petrol, they were slow and agricultural. Now they are nice engines that get more mpg and last longer (so fewer new car purchases), so governments are making less from car tax sales and fuel tax from diesel drivers. Little wonder that the government don't want the average joe to be able to drive them...
Of course the government has an ulterior motive for getting us all into EV's. They don't want people like me to be able to hold onto a "dirty" diesel for 20 years plus - think of all the sales tax they are missing out on. Far better to force them to change their cars, and then to have something disposable (which, given the requirement for new batteries would practically make any EV an economic write-off, I very much class them as disposable items). Green issues? Nope. It's all about the money.
Every thing you have said in this VLOG re EV vehicles i agree with. Lets push towards EV then put the electric prices through the roof, same with LPG which used to be burned off as a by product so lets convert to LPG then the prices went through the roof...
Thank you for showing me what it’s like to actually live with an electric car. It’s clear to me that these issues are being covered up by the EV communities and car journalists who are probably getting bigger kick backs for promoting EVs. Car of the year always an EV these days no coincidence. We are constantly being told that we don’t need to travel more than 30 miles so you don’t need anything else. Well I’m sorry but our fossil fuel cars are designed for all requirements and give us freedom to choose and are convenient and flexible for all kinds of travel and I don’t want to lose that thank you. We are being asked to sacrifice something that works very well for the greater good well they should have prove it unequivocally before we accept this premise. There is no proof just trumped up temperature data correlated against climate. I’m 53 I have seen no change in my life time, if there was a drastic change wouldn’t we be playing cricket in the winter here?
Money money money! Who can afford the time and expense of eating and drinking your life away while waiting for your car to charge,add kids to that and you can forget it.
They don't want the masses driving.
I appreciate your honest reviews on the ev, I feel they have saved me wasting a load of money. I decided to order a mild hybrid in the end. The electric forecourt would not be so relaxing if the number of Evs it was dealing with were significantly increased. It is important to bear in mind the guarantee on batteries, and the significant cost on replacing them. I feel the time wasted in charging is a significant concern. They may be alright for pottering about town, but long distance travelling is another issue.
lee i could not put up with an electric car would do my shed in who ever invented elctric cars should be given the electric chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agreed 👍
As a OAP one of the few pleasures I have left is the ability to travel to interesting places when I want and in the relative comfort of my diesel car. There is no way I could afford a EV so that's my future travel enjoyment negated by the edict of an idiot PM and a equally incompetent government.
Great entertainment for a Saturday evening Lee. With you 100% and share your vlogs too. It's all about control as you say and that's frighteningly sad for my generation who roamed this country and our world at will on 4 wheels. If you watch the Itchy Boots channel a lone woman touring south and north America on a motor bike, you'll see the stupidity of this project. The distances, the infrastructure, just too big to overcome. Their continent relies on huge ICE wagons for supplies and live without electric power because of the terrain. I wish you well in your crusade and I'm sure you're having an impact. Drive safe.
Thanks Ray
I live in Australia . The drivers here are of the opinion “ big country big engine “ , and although I may not be in that camp when considering EV’ s they may well have a point , and I dont see any government trying the bully boy tactics of enforcing an EV only policy any time soon . The problem is , Australia is in effect 8 seperate countries , each state and territory having its own government with questionable unity , so getting a universal EV rule is unlikely . Sometimes dysunity has its advantages .
BTW the man with the arm up Sootys backside was Matthew Corbett, you are lucky Lee it was Sooty who invited you on the stage , it could have been worse , it could have been Rolf Harris 😉.
You're absolutely right Lee, but its a lot worse than you think ....
I’m with you on why EV are being pushed, don’t want the plebs to be mobile any longer, I’m about to buy a new diesel, hopefully last me a few years and probably be my last new car, choice is getting limited though.
Leeds Vs Arsenal game stopped due to electrical power cut!!! Yeah, we are so ready for an all electric future 😀 😀 less reliable than a Dacia. Somebody have a word with these people pushing electric cars, it's laughable
In 2010 when I left corporate life to start my own business, I gave up my company car. Then I did the maths - my car spent it's life at airport car parks, car parks in city centres when visiting clients, in the garage at my home it was parked more than used. I had to pay to park it as well at cost of owning it and using it. So went I for short rental (by the hour), taxi's, trains and traditional rental it is much cheaper. Lets face you don't need to worry about rentals, treat them bad, and you can pick different models. I pick on my mood and what I want to do (let my inner boy racer out). I have a long term contract with my rental company so that saves even more money and they deliver it to where ever I want. And it is tax deductible , no way the tax man is going find out what I amusing for so I throw them a bone of personal use. For me paying to park a chunk of metal didn't cost in, not even leasing.
@@bigwideworld387 Not where I live , We have 4 providers now . Its an app , you drive an leave it where want - within the city limits . You see where the car is , unlock it with your phone , off you go.
It doesn't work in the country side ..needs a metropolitan area.
Hi Lee that gridserve near Braintree is brilliant, but it's as you found not in a convenient location. Should have been at least close to the M11 or M25. Also if you have a leaf they only have one charger with the correct DC connector. Loved my leaf but have returned to a ice car.
Hi Lee, another great video, we only live 25 miles from Brighton. By the way always remember sooty and sweep, Izzy, wizzy we are always busy. L.o.l.
All your trips around UK can you do a report on how much / cost for electricity used?
You could say it is a good thing to have to stop to charge and take a break for road safety. 200 plus miles without a break is not safe. Do love your videos.
We CAN always take a break when we WANT TO. Not that we are FORCED TO.
How is driving for three hours not safe ?
Really enjoyed tagging along with your journey Lee, but EV,s its a definite No from me, Cheers Harry
Thanks Harry. 🕶️
Think the Adult store on the A1 have missed a trick ! … get some charging points installed… at least you can have a look around while charging up
Oooof there’s a challenge for you Lee. Do route 66 in an EV. That would be an interesting vlog. You could take the silver fox with you 😂 😂
I'd like to see you make a vlog where you sit down with somebody like "EVM" who is another TH-camr who (controversially?) likes his EV, to discuss some of your points. EVM is a sensible, no nonsense Yorkshireman, and it would be interesting hear you both discussing your different views on EVs with each other. You have some valid points about the current poor state of the public charging infrastructure, which EVM would probably agree with, but it could be entertaining to see the pair of you exploding the myths perpetuated on both sides of the EV ownership debate. In 2030 you won't be able to buy a NEW ICE car, but those already on the road will remain on the road. Oil is a finite resource. We need to find a viable long term replacement for our transportation need. Hydrogen is the only other potentially viable fuel available today, but if you thought it was tough finding an EV charger, try finding a Hydrogen filling station. Peace and love...
Conner couldn't resist putting out the big lie. It's green and it's sustainable.
Diesel is more future proof but people scoff at em. Diesel is easier to refine. The range is usually close to double for little pipsqueak cars. Lightweight is a key requirement to get great mileage
People are terrified of Diesel soot in particular and fine particulates in general. It’s the next big health panic, particulates. Not sure that there’s anything to worry about, but the reports of new research seem calculated to cause worry…
@@markiangooley the problem is when they decided that all the soot basically has to be trapped and later burned off. Regens for the particulate filter. Also the engine is heavily regulated to never be efficient. They just hate diesel.
Want to know the answer !
The World economy forum ! Control !
Firstly, great video and content , really enjoy the way you present and congratulations. Re the EV , you are the first and probably only current blogger to expose the truth about the day to day living with an EV. Surely the future of motoring and travelling should easier , cheaper , enjoyable and faster. However thud is showing EV being the complete opposite in all ways . First of the range is poor , it’s expensive now to charge and as you have shown slower and you end buying things you don’t need whilst waiting to charge. How would you cope with kids hanging around at these places for example. You are correctly it’s not the future, it’s certainly not fit for purpose . What I don’t understand is traditional ice car manufacturers are spending billions of these cars and they are useless. Why in a so called Democratic society are we allowing this to happen. All of our freedoms are being taken away steadily and we allow them to do so. Keep up the great content
Thank You Simon. Hope I don't get made to be quiet about it. If I disappear then you know why lol
@@TheMacMaster if you disappear we will come and find you , friends look after each other
The frustrations of this journey actually started to give me a headache to watch. I am absolutely resolute that I will not be sucked into the EV community. I envision that the UK might end up like Cuba and and a community of drivers will keep running old cars until the last drop of dinosaur juice is drawn from the earth.
When your Charging could someone come and unplug from your car? Or is Charger locked while you are away from the car
Locked in.
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on a similar note, when you're not home could someone park on your drive & nick your electricity?
just asking.
@@ghunt9146 You can lock them through the suppliers app or switch them off at the mains
Sooty was a puppet!!! My childhood is ruined, I thought he was alive :-)
Great video Lee. I am currently developing an engine that will run on horse manure. I am targeting the EV community cuz they will buy any old sh*t.
So, you lost 50 minutes to charge your
car, when you could fill the tank up in 5 minutes, in any petrol station and be already in your destination!
Now how many hours of life will you spend on these charging stations? Waist of precious time for sure!
Just a thought...Emissions are the big talk for getting people to convert to EV's...The EU has set an interim target of 55% emission reduction by 2030, set in the European Climate Law. The EU has launched various initiatives to reach these targets. If countries leaders reach these various targets earlier, are they given a cash bonus incentive and a better standing on the political front? This could be a major reason for the hype, the hype which actually covers up the damning facts around EV production resourcing and bad investment in the infrastructure needed. The faster public /companies convert the quicker the figures drop. This is not a bad thing for the environment we would all agree, as road travel accounts for three-quarters of transport emissions. Most of this comes from passenger vehicles - cars and buses - which contribute 45.1%. The other 29.4% comes from trucks carrying freight. Surely big incentives would have to be implemented so as to help the changeover. So far it just looks as though it is a money grab and not in the interest of buyers of EV's. Food for thought if nothing else. You had a roof over the charging forecourt Lee, makes a refreshing change. Don't forget...It's all for the greater good bud (the greater good!)...All the best
Have to say the charging station looked rather nice I thought. No fumes, no getting fuel on the bottom of your trainers and a well presented rest area. Still won't be getting a milk float though😉
So if you peddle the Gridserve exercise bikes does it recharge your EV free of charge (if you’ll pardon the pun)?
In the US, for now it's only ‘The People's Republic of California’ doing away with gas cars by 2035....for the moment 😒
MBS is right behind you . What I get from your videos is that the Motorways are chockablock with people driving over 100 miles to have fish and chips when my dad would just walk to the chipper.
"Our fuel spill is a sunny day." That's what it said at the Electric Forecourt. I would have thought that the fuel spill might actually be a nasty electric shock.
Have you noticed the huge diesel generators at the back off these charging stations ,Yeagh desperately hidden .
Great vid Lee, appreciate the time and effort you put into your vlogs 😎👍😊
Thanks Mark. Really appreciate it.
I love my 10 year old diesel 2.2L Mazda 3 and near 700 miles in range just the price in diesel is annoying me having gone up a couple of pence a litre over the last week or so. I’ve done 24 thousand miles this year in it with no issues at all
Think The EV Puzzle YT channel went to the Norwich one of these. I don't think their expansion plans are adventurous enough, even at 100 stations -- what happens if there were an exponential growth in EV sales? That station was almost empty ... think about it -- 32M licensed cars in the UK, you need one of this size charging station for every (say) 2 or 3 petrol stations that we have now...UNLESS the future is only for those few that can afford an EV, and want a meeting in a pod while charging. EVs are like veganism...(mostly) a kids or wealthy person's choice...
In order to build 100 EV forecourts in five years, they need to have one every 2 1/2 weeks, clearly that isn't going to happen.
Would never own electric car, because I could never afford one. Now i would love to win one in some sort of competition etc. First thing I would try to do is sell it and buy a nice new internal combustion engine car and bank the cash left over.
If you want a medical procedure you get one, but don't force it on people!
Ring a bell?
Exactly. I like my EV but the ban on ICE in 2030 is madness taken to Crazy levels.
@@jp6975 A little bit like saying to everyone if you don't take a jab you can't go anywhere!
I went past my local power-station recently - Radcliffe-On-Soar. There was a huge mountain of EV fuel there. Oddly, it looked just like coal to me.
Dose the range change if you drive with the lights on heating etc?
Yes, just like the mpg in an ICE car suffers when you switch things on. Worse in winter etc.
The only thing that has an electric future is the train. Even the battery trains are in an experimental phase.
5 years to build and operate 100 EV forecourts, I think your hotel room at Premier Inn has more chance of a refurb.
Pease Pottage is a village in the Mid Sussex District of West Sussex, England. It lies on the southern edge of the Crawley built-up area, in the civil parish of Slaugham. The village has a motorway service station, named after the village, which also serves as a local shop for the residents of the village.
I bet all that stuff in that service centre is way expensive. I'd just sit in the car as opposed to getting ripped off.