I posted about this in one of your videos a few weeks ago. I am so glad you tried it. It is truly amazing, and he did a fantastic job. So much so that when I was done and heard it I immediately when back to the video and sent him some money (I hope people support him for his hard work). I can't say 100%, but I am confident that it sounds as good as Dirac would and maybe even better. I am not spending $700 to find out, lol. Glad you tried it.
Thank you to you and everyone else who recommended A1 Evo to me. We definitely need to support OCA. Others have commented here that this sounds as good a Dirac as well. I am going back and rewatching my Blu-ray’s now with the new settings and it’s amazing, the difference.
The clarity is what really makes the biggest difference i think. It's able to time align stuff in a way that audyssey just never could. I'm listening to stuff at lower levels because it "sounds" louder now that everything is time aligned properly. Same with the bass, everything is just more aligned.
I use the last version EVO MJ Maestro on my Denon 3800H 7..4.4 set up ,all I can said is fantastic and is free and the must important you get even better result vs Dirac
I only have a Denon X1700 and A1 still made a huge difference in my setup. Soundstage seems much wider and the dialogue clarity is much better. Super easy to try different curves as well. It’s a great free tool (opposed to MultEQ-X or Dirac). As for your low frequency roll off with A1 Evo, starting at around 30Hz, you might need to play around with the script. In the AVS forum thread, I saw a few folks try editing one of the “high pass filter” sections that has a 15.75hz frequency listed. They changed the line that says “enabled” from true to false. Some have also modified an “allow low shelf filter” section to true. The high pass filter in particular got rid of that
With MultEQ app, I was applying room correction to 500 hz for all speakers. Measured RT60A in my room is around 220 hz, so I can go down to that frequency for room correction in the MultEQ app if I really want to.
Hey @MagnoliaMo if A1 EVO set your front speakers to Large and says to use LFE + Main, do you change it back to small &. LFE or do what A1 EVO says? Thanks in advance.
Good question. A1 Evo shouldn’t set your fronts to Large unless you have the option checked to set the fronts as large before running the script. If you didn’t select that and Evo came up with that then leave it. I don’t believe it’s correct unless your front go down to 20 hz at 85 db
Hello What’s about the warning message from subwoofer 1, i getting the same warning. What does it actually means, and how to correct that Thank you for this great video
Thank you. I got two warnings. One for LPF to LFE and the other for the Subwoofer Polarity. I increased the LPF to LFE in the receiver. The subwoofer polarity can be changed on the subwoofer itself.
@@magnoliamo I mean the warning about LPF to LFE, is very odd to put the LFE in the AVR to 250hz The “ guideline” should be 120hz In the EVO calculation is one pair of speaker set to a crossover of 150hz. Had it something to do with this pair of speakers? The only other thing is that evo is forcing my front left and right speakers to full range and setting the subwoofer mode to LFE+main. Is that recommended?
@engelsje1 No front Large and LFE+Main is not recommended. Do you have “Force Front Large” selected on the script. That’s the only thing I can think of that could for Front to Large. As for LPF to LFE. That’s correct because my front heights are crossed over at 120 hz. For better bass management A1 Evo is recommending LPF to LFE to be updated to 250 hz. I did that and to me it made a difference in overall bass reproduction when the sound is directed to the front heights.
@@magnoliamo ok for the LPF to LFE set to 250 hz, I will try this out 👍 For the front speakers the script said Set front left/right to full range and subwoofer mode to LFE+main In audyssey after measuring the front speakers are also set to large I never used that, alle my speakers I’ve set to small after measuring. So now in evo appears it again in the script, marked in red as an warning. So ignore this message ? and setting the front and left manually to small, and the subwoofer mode only on LFE?
@@magnoliamo it’s sometimes hard to explained what type of speakers I used in my hometheater, most of the people doesn’t know them, only the brand is familiar to them. And don’t know if it is polite to link my YT channel.,so that you have an idee of the setup If you’re interested let me know, then I can put the link in the comment It’s only a very small channel with a few subscribers. Thank anyway for your quick response in the comments. Your channel provides lots of good and interesting information Regards
I am a bit confused with A1 EVO. It sets my front towers to large, tells me to set my sub to LFE+MAIN with a crossover of 110 hz. However, would I not starve my receiver of power letting my mains go all the way down? It also sets my Atmos speakers (Dali Alteco C1) to 60 Hz, however, specs for those are 74 hz, so normally I would muliply that by 1.5 and set them to 120 hz, also it sets my surround bookshelves to 40 hz, they do not go that low. Is this normal? Is this because my room makes my speakers sound lower? (Fronts: Dali Oberon 7, Center: Dali Oberon Vokal, Surround: Dali Oberon 3, Sub: SVS SB12-NSD, Heights: Dali Alteco-C1)
Great question. A1 Evo relies on the Audyssey measurements. Were the original Audyssey measurements accurate for your speakers? Did you take all 8 measurements with Audyssey? Before running A1 Evo you can check the force front speakers to small option. That will set crossovers more accurately.
@@magnoliamo I did do all the 8 measurements, Audyssey did set my fronts to large as well, I manually changed them in the MultEQ (Non A1 EVO profile) to small and 80hz. I will try the force front speakers to small option.
This may help. Did some testing and in the script edit maxboost to 6 (default 0, you can try 3 also) and every overallmaxboost to 3 (default 0). Also change allowlowshelf to true in every spot.
I ran EVO but I did not get satisfactory results. The overall volume and bass were too low. I had crank up volume quite a bit. Bass was not that tight and thumping. I had to adjust speaker distances and levels manually. I don’t know what I did wrong.
@@captainrizal67 Thanks for the question. That’s unfortunate. How many positions did you run Audyssey with? OCA does not recommend changing the distances and trims post Evo. I suggest running Audyssey again. Did you like the sound with Audyssey prior to running Evo?
The standard Evo target curve is very low in bass. For more bass you are free to use any other target curve. You can find them in the downloads folder linked in the descrition under his A1 evo video. Use Dirac Harman 10dB target curve, you will be very satisfied with the bass! enjoy!
A1 Evo measures and calibrates all the speakers. It uses the Audyssey calibrated file and reading and makes adjustments across the entire frequency spectrum for a better sound.
@@magnoliamo yeah but in eq section the target curve cutting in 250 hz... And also in multi eq app to curve editor i dont see eq after 250 hz for the rest speaker is just flat all the way... If maked calibration to the rest speaker i wouldn't see eq and to the highs.. ??? 🤔
@kuriakos36 Are you reviewing the target curve script and the Evo script? You should ask this question on AVSFORUM as well. I don’t see any cutoff. Also, the Evo script is completely customizable.
@@kuriakos36 Yes. First run Audyssey using the MultEQ app. Import the settings into Evo with REW open. Run the tool. You get 2 post Evo settings. One with DynamicEq and one without. Upload back into the MultEQ app and send to the AVR. Enjoy
Those nulls you have are very unfortunate spots in the frequency response. Your L and R do not have nulls. You should move your subs right beside the L and R. In your room and situation, it looks to be a better condition and spot for the subs.
@@sammy10001 agree about the nulls. The SB16 Ultra is next to the Front Left. I think the SB16 Ultra and SB3000 are cancelling each other out lol. I’m going to get some bass traps and install some ceiling panels hopefully it will fix it.
@@Yorkscarnivore good question. DEQ should be left off. Evo gives you two curves. One with DEQ and one without. If you want to use DEQ then I suggest load the DEQ curve and then turn DEQ on.
I posted about this in one of your videos a few weeks ago. I am so glad you tried it. It is truly amazing, and he did a fantastic job. So much so that when I was done and heard it I immediately when back to the video and sent him some money (I hope people support him for his hard work). I can't say 100%, but I am confident that it sounds as good as Dirac would and maybe even better. I am not spending $700 to find out, lol. Glad you tried it.
Thank you to you and everyone else who recommended A1 Evo to me. We definitely need to support OCA. Others have commented here that this sounds as good a Dirac as well. I am going back and rewatching my Blu-ray’s now with the new settings and it’s amazing, the difference.
I had an Onkyo RZ50 with Dirac now I have a Denon 3800, A1 Evo definitely even better than Dirac.
@charlesmunzert7423 wow!
I currently use it. It does make my Marantz Cinema 50 sound amazing! Totally Recommend it.
The clarity is what really makes the biggest difference i think. It's able to time align stuff in a way that audyssey just never could. I'm listening to stuff at lower levels because it "sounds" louder now that everything is time aligned properly. Same with the bass, everything is just more aligned.
100% agree with your assessment.
I use the last version EVO MJ Maestro on my Denon 3800H 7..4.4 set up ,all I can said is fantastic and is free and the must important you get even better result vs Dirac
I only have a Denon X1700 and A1 still made a huge difference in my setup. Soundstage seems much wider and the dialogue clarity is much better. Super easy to try different curves as well. It’s a great free tool (opposed to MultEQ-X or Dirac).
As for your low frequency roll off with A1 Evo, starting at around 30Hz, you might need to play around with the script. In the AVS forum thread, I saw a few folks try editing one of the “high pass filter” sections that has a 15.75hz frequency listed. They changed the line that says “enabled” from true to false. Some have also modified an “allow low shelf filter” section to true.
The high pass filter in particular got rid of that
With MultEQ app, I was applying room correction to 500 hz for all speakers. Measured RT60A in my room is around 220 hz, so I can go down to that frequency for room correction in the MultEQ app if I really want to.
Great video. Should you level match speakers after completion or leave level settings as is
Thank you! Level matching and adjusting crossovers after the script runs is not needed nor is it recommended by OCA.
Hey @MagnoliaMo if A1 EVO set your front speakers to Large and says to use LFE + Main, do you change it back to small &. LFE or do what A1 EVO says? Thanks in advance.
Good question. A1 Evo shouldn’t set your fronts to Large unless you have the option checked to set the fronts as large before running the script. If you didn’t select that and Evo came up with that then leave it. I don’t believe it’s correct unless your front go down to 20 hz at 85 db
@@magnoliamo Thanks for the quick response, I found the force small speakers box. thanks again.
Hi - I asked the question on AVSFORUM about
Do you use svs own peq before / after audyssey? Or just plain audyssey with this Evo?
I have used the PEQ before running Audyssey but felt it was EQ on top of EQ. So now just use Audyssey with Evo.
@@magnoliamoOkay, thank you for sharing.
Hello
What’s about the warning message from subwoofer 1, i getting the same warning. What does it actually means, and how to correct that
Thank you for this great video
Thank you. I got two warnings. One for LPF to LFE and the other for the Subwoofer Polarity. I increased the LPF to LFE in the receiver. The subwoofer polarity can be changed on the subwoofer itself.
@@magnoliamo I mean the warning about LPF to LFE, is very odd to put the LFE in the AVR to 250hz
The “ guideline” should be 120hz
In the EVO calculation is one pair of speaker set to a crossover of 150hz.
Had it something to do with this pair of speakers?
The only other thing is that evo is forcing my front left and right speakers to full range and setting the subwoofer mode to LFE+main.
Is that recommended?
@engelsje1 No front Large and LFE+Main is not recommended. Do you have “Force Front Large” selected on the script. That’s the only thing I can think of that could for Front to Large. As for LPF to LFE. That’s correct because my front heights are crossed over at 120 hz. For better bass management A1 Evo is recommending LPF to LFE to be updated to 250 hz. I did that and to me it made a difference in overall bass reproduction when the sound is directed to the front heights.
@@magnoliamo ok for the LPF to LFE set to 250 hz, I will try this out 👍
For the front speakers the script said
Set front left/right to full range and subwoofer mode to LFE+main
In audyssey after measuring the front speakers are also set to large
I never used that, alle my speakers I’ve set to small after measuring.
So now in evo appears it again in the script,
marked in red as an warning.
So ignore this message ? and setting the front and left manually to small, and the subwoofer mode only on LFE?
@@magnoliamo it’s sometimes hard to explained what type of speakers I used in my hometheater, most of the people doesn’t know them, only the brand is familiar to them.
And don’t know if it is polite to link my YT channel.,so that you have an idee of the setup
If you’re interested let me know, then I can put the link in the comment
It’s only a very small channel with a few subscribers.
Thank anyway for your quick response in the comments.
Your channel provides lots of good and interesting information
Regards
I am a bit confused with A1 EVO. It sets my front towers to large, tells me to set my sub to LFE+MAIN with a crossover of 110 hz. However, would I not starve my receiver of power letting my mains go all the way down? It also sets my Atmos speakers (Dali Alteco C1) to 60 Hz, however, specs for those are 74 hz, so normally I would muliply that by 1.5 and set them to 120 hz, also it sets my surround bookshelves to 40 hz, they do not go that low. Is this normal? Is this because my room makes my speakers sound lower? (Fronts: Dali Oberon 7, Center: Dali Oberon Vokal, Surround: Dali Oberon 3, Sub: SVS SB12-NSD, Heights: Dali Alteco-C1)
Great question. A1 Evo relies on the Audyssey measurements. Were the original Audyssey measurements accurate for your speakers? Did you take all 8 measurements with Audyssey? Before running A1 Evo you can check the force front speakers to small option. That will set crossovers more accurately.
@@magnoliamo I did do all the 8 measurements, Audyssey did set my fronts to large as well, I manually changed them in the MultEQ (Non A1 EVO profile) to small and 80hz. I will try the force front speakers to small option.
@@bschalker yes that’s the way to bypass. Good luck. Let know if this works.
Do you know how to get subwoofer to follow the target curve also below 30 hz?
@@kuuttiwalls Yes. I need to play around with the customization. @andrewvenditelli152 commented below about the customization below 30hz below.
@@magnoliamo if you manage to get that tailored, I and maybe others would be interested to hear about it👍
@@kuuttiwalls thanks. Yes already working on it.
This may help. Did some testing and in the script edit maxboost to 6 (default 0, you can try 3 also) and every overallmaxboost to 3 (default 0). Also change allowlowshelf to true in every spot.
@kuuttiwalls thank you.
What target curve Script did you use ? New version is a bit different to his video
@@Ghazkul666 i used the target curve that he has on his latest version.
@@magnoliamo and that one is called what ?
It’s the TargetCurve_MJ.text according to the script that ran.
@@magnoliamo Oki thanks :)
@Ghazkul666 is that the correct one?
I ran EVO but I did not get satisfactory results. The overall volume and bass were too low. I had crank up volume quite a bit. Bass was not that tight and thumping. I had to adjust speaker distances and levels manually. I don’t know what I did wrong.
@@captainrizal67 Thanks for the question. That’s unfortunate. How many positions did you run Audyssey with? OCA does not recommend changing the distances and trims post Evo. I suggest running Audyssey again. Did you like the sound with Audyssey prior to running Evo?
The standard Evo target curve is very low in bass. For more bass you are free to use any other target curve. You can find them in the downloads folder linked in the descrition under his A1 evo video. Use Dirac Harman 10dB target curve, you will be very satisfied with the bass! enjoy!
the key is another target curve! use a +10db target curve.
@@magnoliamo sorry for late reply. I ran Audyssey at 6 positions. What’s OCA?
@@vortexor1 thanks. I got only 2 curves in the download folder. I exported the standard curve to my system.
Why measures only until 250hz and not all the speaker??? How can i measure all the speaker???
A1 Evo measures and calibrates all the speakers. It uses the Audyssey calibrated file and reading and makes adjustments across the entire frequency spectrum for a better sound.
@@magnoliamo yeah but in eq section the target curve cutting in 250 hz... And also in multi eq app to curve editor i dont see eq after 250 hz for the rest speaker is just flat all the way... If maked calibration to the rest speaker i wouldn't see eq and to the highs.. ??? 🤔
@kuriakos36 Are you reviewing the target curve script and the Evo script? You should ask this question on AVSFORUM as well. I don’t see any cutoff. Also, the Evo script is completely customizable.
@@magnoliamo so you calibrate all the speaker from low until 20khz??? And gives you eq to all speaker???
@@kuriakos36 Yes. First run Audyssey using the MultEQ app. Import the settings into Evo with REW open. Run the tool. You get 2 post Evo settings. One with DynamicEq and one without. Upload back into the MultEQ app and send to the AVR. Enjoy
Those nulls you have are very unfortunate spots in the frequency response.
Your L and R do not have nulls. You should move your subs right beside the L and R.
In your room and situation, it looks to be a better condition and spot for the subs.
@@sammy10001 agree about the nulls. The SB16 Ultra is next to the Front Left. I think the SB16 Ultra and SB3000 are cancelling each other out lol. I’m going to get some bass traps and install some ceiling panels hopefully it will fix it.
Do you recommend deq on or off with evo..?
@@Yorkscarnivore good question. DEQ should be left off. Evo gives you two curves. One with DEQ and one without. If you want to use DEQ then I suggest load the DEQ curve and then turn DEQ on.
@magnoliamo yes I've seen there's 2 curves but I can't decide which one is best haha
@@Yorkscarnivore with the master curve, you really don't need DEQ. I have not needed to turn on DEQ thus far for late night watching
@magnoliamo OK, what mix donyou recommend with it I'm currently using auro3d as I've got 11.1 ?
@@Yorkscarnivore everything sounds amazing with Evo. Dtsx, Atmos, or Auro-3D.
Too bad A1 Evo optimization is still based on a generic target curve.
I believe you can load your own target curve and A1 Evo will calibrate to it. That’s what OCA mentioned in his video, at least.
you are free to use any other. You can find them in the downloads folder linked in the descrition in his A1 evo video.