I just installed the short reset system and flat trigger. I didn’t think I was going to get that trigger return spring back in without those special pliers from HK. They don’t ship to Canada. 😩 Took me several tries but managed to do it. The new trigger and shorter reset are AWESOME!! It is night and day compared to the OEM trigger and reset. Thanks for the videos, couldn’t have done it without your help. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Would be a lot better, too many instructors don't realize their students haven't done this a thousand times. This is one of those videos. Pause a second between steps for the love of God.
Ok. So, just got mine and put it in. Keith makes this look real easy but it took me about an hour to break mine apart and put it together and ended up running the video at 50% speed. Once I got it together though- this weapon already was amazing but now it is even more so. Thank you all for making a great piece of kit for the H&K.
Glad you got it all put together. The first time can be a challenge, learning the parts, their names, and oreintation. I know the video isn't the best with lighting and sound. Next time you have to take this gun apart will be much easier! Thank you for supporting us!
Everything you need, nothing you don't. Just straight down to business. Awesome. I'd love to see this video recorded again with better lighting and clear focus.
If you are watching this and thinking about it, STOP! Do yourself a favor AND JUST BUY IT. I have kits in my P30L, P30SK and USP Expert .45 and love the improvement.
The p30SK has an extra step for removing the firing pin. There is a small roll pin that needs to be punched with a small punch next to the loaded chamber indicator. This removes a safety pin that the p30 does not have.
I’m not sure how expensive the 3D modeling videos are but Volquartsen does several and man are they amazing. You can clearly see everything and it just makes understanding technical stuff easy. Please GG, can you do a 3D video of this install?
Installed 12/14/23 on P30sk no safety. The trigger portion was easy but the slide portion wasn't so easy as after the roll pin was removed, the firing pin would not slide out nor would the block drop out easily. I finally got the block out and put the spring in and reassembled it. I fired two test shots in my downstairs range and all worked fine.
If you followed this video and you're wondering why you no longer have single action, it's because he forgot to install the extended (sear roll pin that comes with the kit) into the decocking lever. If you don't do this, you won't have SA anymore. Also, if you're struggling to install the cylindrical pin back into the bearing for the hammer spring, DECOCK the gun first. Pushing that bearing with a rubber puck makes it a lot easier (still the trickiest part of all this IMO).
Thank you for your comment. I go over this step at 1:50. It is very important to replace that sear roll pin for a few reasons, reliable single action being the top.
Just replaced all the other springs in my P30L in a full teardown tonight. really dreading putting your trigger in once it comes back in stock, that trigger return spring is just a nightmare to get back in!
Quick question, I have the DA/SA variant no safety. The install wasn't bad but all of my components hammer sear etc were coated in a silver grease almost, it was very liquidy and had a mettallic sheen it's a newer gun maybe 750 round through it. My question is was it OK to wipe that off the components? All I did was add a super light coat of hoppes oil over them before reassembly.
It sounds like you had factory grease still inside the gun. HK ships their guns with grease coating the internals. We recommend grease over oil as it has more staying power and won't wick off the components nearly as quickly.
Does this installation also apply the same as doing this on a P2000 and p2000sk model? Would like to do this for both those models with adding the grayguns flat trigger any links for doing so aside from this? TIA.
Yes, the install is identical to the P2000/P2000sk. The only small difference is the Trigger return spring, The spring leg sits on the oppiste side of the trigger/frame, install is the same however.
@@grayguns thank you I did not know this existed til I started researching about a trigger upgrade due to my p2000 chambered in 40 S&W giving my trigger bite on my index finger. Will definitely be ordering this from you guys. Do you think the SRT kit is necessary? Or is that just overkill at this point? I do like that it does lessen the reset so perhaps it maybe worth the investment as well. Thank you for the timely response and information I will definitely be ordering these products, take care.
The extended roll pin is only for the p30’s I did not find a roll pin on the p2000’s sear it was a metal tab sticking out but seemed welded onto the sear. Correct me if I’m wrong thank you in advance.
Is the installation the same for the P2000? I bought this trigger and short reset trigger kit and no instructions came with either. You don't have anything listed on your website, or on TH-cam either.
It is going to be very similar. All the same parts, except for the elbow spring behind the sear. The DA/SA Safety is easier. Follow the video and you'll see the small difference.
Great video, I'll be attempting the short reset kit install on my HK45 and HK45CT in the next couple of days. I assume it's pretty much similar install process... Do you have a video coming for the HK45's?
It is practically the same, with a few extra parts. I've been a bit preoccupied lately with other projects but I would like to get a HK45/45c video done soon.
@@grayguns I did the install, and its pretty much identical - VERY easy to do, and got me more familiar with the inner workings of my HK45/45c, plus they got a good cleaning. Had a pistol course this weekend and the trigger reset is great!
Yes, the roll pin is required on all of our SRS kits we sell. The Roll pin helps eliminate the sponginess in the trigger pull, giving a crisp disticnt break.
We have been doing this work for well over 15 years. The first 10 years we custom made each control latch by hand using the factory control latch and in the last 5 years making these parts drop in. During this time we have not run into any reliability issues
Thus usp compact has a fix seer roll pin so is no way to replace it, i guess the only way would be to get a p30 block and then do it but idk if the blocks are compatible between the two
We currently don't offer the tools. Most can be found at the local hardware store, the trigger spring tool can be found on HKparts.net or with some files and a pair of needle nose pliars be made.
The firing pin block spring is one of three springs that determine the pull weight. Replacing the firing pin block spring will lighten up the trigger pull depending on the trigger return spring and the mainspring installed in the firearm.
This install shows the LEM install. For the Standard DA/SA guns the install is almost identical you just ignore the 2 piece hammer and install the one piece hammer and ommit the LEM elbow spring which is installed next to the hammer.
These are two different systems. Our short reset shortens the distance the trigger has to travel to reset the gun, before you can pull the trigger again. The 4.1 shortens the pre travel of the LEM trigger. The starting position of the 4.1 is a few millimeters closer to the wall/ break point.
I do apologize for the video quality. I am a gunsmith afterall and not a videographer. We tried our best and will be making more videos in the future hopefully of better quality.
I just installed the short reset system and flat trigger. I didn’t think I was going to get that trigger return spring back in without those special pliers from HK. They don’t ship to Canada. 😩 Took me several tries but managed to do it. The new trigger and shorter reset are AWESOME!! It is night and day compared to the OEM trigger and reset. Thanks for the videos, couldn’t have done it without your help. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This would be a little better if you showed the orientation of each part before reassembling. The reset is 1000% better after installing.
Would be a lot better, too many instructors don't realize their students haven't done this a thousand times. This is one of those videos. Pause a second between steps for the love of God.
Ok. So, just got mine and put it in. Keith makes this look real easy but it took me about an hour to break mine apart and put it together and ended up running the video at 50% speed. Once I got it together though- this weapon already was amazing but now it is even more so. Thank you all for making a great piece of kit for the H&K.
Glad you got it all put together. The first time can be a challenge, learning the parts, their names, and oreintation. I know the video isn't the best with lighting and sound. Next time you have to take this gun apart will be much easier! Thank you for supporting us!
@@grayguns That's good. A buddy is now looking at a P30 and will most likely want me to put the reset kit in his.
Everything you need, nothing you don't. Just straight down to business. Awesome. I'd love to see this video recorded again with better lighting and clear focus.
If you are watching this and thinking about it, STOP! Do yourself a favor AND JUST BUY IT. I have kits in my P30L, P30SK and USP Expert .45 and love the improvement.
Thank you for the support!
The p30SK has an extra step for removing the firing pin. There is a small roll pin that needs to be punched with a small punch next to the loaded chamber indicator. This removes a safety pin that the p30 does not have.
Thank you so much for posting this video.
I’m not sure how expensive the 3D modeling videos are but Volquartsen does several and man are they amazing. You can clearly see everything and it just makes understanding technical stuff easy. Please GG, can you do a 3D video of this install?
We will look into this and see if it is something we are able to do
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Installed 12/14/23 on P30sk no safety. The trigger portion was easy but the slide portion wasn't so easy as after the roll pin was removed, the firing pin would not slide out nor would the block drop out easily. I finally got the block out and put the spring in and reassembled it. I fired two test shots in my downstairs range and all worked fine.
Installed on a P30L with de-cocker. No issue at all. No springs to worry about like with the LEM apparently. All I can say is "That was easy".
Damn made it look easy Lol I installed it on my hkp30s v3 took me hours. But that short reset is amazing.
If you followed this video and you're wondering why you no longer have single action, it's because he forgot to install the extended (sear roll pin that comes with the kit) into the decocking lever. If you don't do this, you won't have SA anymore. Also, if you're struggling to install the cylindrical pin back into the bearing for the hammer spring, DECOCK the gun first. Pushing that bearing with a rubber puck makes it a lot easier (still the trickiest part of all this IMO).
Thank you for your comment. I go over this step at 1:50. It is very important to replace that sear roll pin for a few reasons, reliable single action being the top.
Just replaced all the other springs in my P30L in a full teardown tonight. really dreading putting your trigger in once it comes back in stock, that trigger return spring is just a nightmare to get back in!
The pliars make a world of difference. It all comes down to applying just enough force to hold the spring and not so much you crush it.
@@grayguns yeah, I'm sure it helps. HKParts hasn't had it in stock for a while now unfortunately. I had to use the coffee straw trick to get it in.
will this also work on p30sk v3 (SA/DA) or LEM only?@@grayguns
Quick question, I have the DA/SA variant no safety. The install wasn't bad but all of my components hammer sear etc were coated in a silver grease almost, it was very liquidy and had a mettallic sheen it's a newer gun maybe 750 round through it. My question is was it OK to wipe that off the components? All I did was add a super light coat of hoppes oil over them before reassembly.
It sounds like you had factory grease still inside the gun. HK ships their guns with grease coating the internals. We recommend grease over oil as it has more staying power and won't wick off the components nearly as quickly.
Does this installation also apply the same as doing this on a P2000 and p2000sk model? Would like to do this for both those models with adding the grayguns flat trigger any links for doing so aside from this? TIA.
Yes, the install is identical to the P2000/P2000sk. The only small difference is the Trigger return spring, The spring leg sits on the oppiste side of the trigger/frame, install is the same however.
@@grayguns thank you I did not know this existed til I started researching about a trigger upgrade due to my p2000 chambered in 40 S&W giving my trigger bite on my index finger. Will definitely be ordering this from you guys. Do you think the SRT kit is necessary? Or is that just overkill at this point? I do like that it does lessen the reset so perhaps it maybe worth the investment as well. Thank you for the timely response and information I will definitely be ordering these products, take care.
The extended roll pin is only for the p30’s I did not find a roll pin on the p2000’s sear it was a metal tab sticking out but seemed welded onto the sear. Correct me if I’m wrong thank you in advance.
is it normal for the disconnector and control lever to wiggle around? my gunsmith installed this for me and i’m thinking something wasn’t done right.
If you'd like you can send CSR@grayguns.com an email with a video and we can take a look at it.
So what happened here? Was it normal or needed correction?
Great video! I have the flat trigger and short reset kit but I did not see the uber cool metal hammer on the website?
Is the installation the same for the P2000? I bought this trigger and short reset trigger kit and no instructions came with either. You don't have anything listed on your website, or on TH-cam either.
Yes, Installation is almost identical, if you have the LEM or DASA. We will be correcting that soon and have videos of all the models and variants.
I have a P30L w/safety. I am assuming the instal would be a little different from this video?
It is going to be very similar. All the same parts, except for the elbow spring behind the sear. The DA/SA Safety is easier. Follow the video and you'll see the small difference.
I just did it. You don't have to worry about about springs with the trigger. It all just falls back into place. 30 minutes.
Any plans to produce P30-compatible slides? Optics ready?
We would like to, however we are tackling the SIG slide first. We hope to have an optic option for the P30 slides in the next 6 months.
@@grayguns looking forward to putting a 507k on my p30
@@grayguns you’d have my money in a heartbeat!!
This is for the LEM model what is different for the V3 without safety?
The difference is going to be the LEM spring behind the sear. It wont be there and so you won't have to make sure its out of the way. Much easier.
Great video, I'll be attempting the short reset kit install on my HK45 and HK45CT in the next couple of days. I assume it's pretty much similar install process... Do you have a video coming for the HK45's?
It is practically the same, with a few extra parts. I've been a bit preoccupied lately with other projects but I would like to get a HK45/45c video done soon.
@@grayguns I did the install, and its pretty much identical - VERY easy to do, and got me more familiar with the inner workings of my HK45/45c, plus they got a good cleaning. Had a pistol course this weekend and the trigger reset is great!
Thank you so much!!! Will you be releasing a video for the USP?
We will be. The USP is almost identical to this one just a few small changes. But the USP will be coming soon
@@grayguns I have an Elite .45 and I look forward to the video.
@@graygunsdid you make a video for the usp ?
Thanks for the video. Would the process be any different for P30S?
The process to install the short reset on a Safety P30 is no different. The difference in the disassembly comes when you need to remove the hammer.
Just curious, what is the purpose of the longer seer pin and is it required for all variants of the P30?
Yes, the roll pin is required on all of our SRS kits we sell. The Roll pin helps eliminate the sponginess in the trigger pull, giving a crisp disticnt break.
Does this effect reliability for anyone
We have been doing this work for well over 15 years. The first 10 years we custom made each control latch by hand using the factory control latch and in the last 5 years making these parts drop in. During this time we have not run into any reliability issues
Can I use the short reset system with the standard P30 trigger? I want to keep the appearance stock. I have a da/sa P30 with no safety.
you can absolutley use the factory curved trigger with the short reset system.
What is the recoil spring buffer on your guide rod? Doesnt seem to be the factory polymer bushing.
The recoil buffer is the factory one that comes on the P30L
How similar is the install process for the P2000?
practically identical
Whats your oem hammer? Where can i buy like yours?
The hammer in this gun is a factory hammer with our Nickel Teflon Coating
cool intro
Thus usp compact has a fix seer roll pin so is no way to replace it, i guess the only way would be to get a p30 block and then do it but idk if the blocks are compatible between the two
send me an email. khosey@grayguns.com We will get it figured out
I’m adding the kits to my cart on the website now, do I need special tools for the install and if so where do I order them?
We currently don't offer the tools. Most can be found at the local hardware store, the trigger spring tool can be found on HKparts.net or with some files and a pair of needle nose pliars be made.
Where did you find that Stainless hammer from?
The hammer is one we had coated in Nickel Teflon. Something we do to the guns that are sent in for action work.
How would this work with a p30l with a safety model?
exact same way just without the LEN spring behind the sear
Hi, I understand short reset, but why firing pin block spring? I'm new to this topic.
The firing pin block spring is one of three springs that determine the pull weight. Replacing the firing pin block spring will lighten up the trigger pull depending on the trigger return spring and the mainspring installed in the firearm.
Is this only for LEM or will this work for normal hammer ? I’m confused on lem
This install shows the LEM install. For the Standard DA/SA guns the install is almost identical you just ignore the 2 piece hammer and install the one piece hammer and ommit the LEM elbow spring which is installed next to the hammer.
Any videos of this being installed on a full size USP45??
not yet, but the disassembly and reassembly is about the same to get the SRS installed.
What’s difference between GG Short Reset and the 4.1?
These are two different systems. Our short reset shortens the distance the trigger has to travel to reset the gun, before you can pull the trigger again. The 4.1 shortens the pre travel of the LEM trigger. The starting position of the 4.1 is a few millimeters closer to the wall/ break point.
@@grayguns Thank you for explanation and prompt response.
Wish you had the double action version of this video
We are going to get videos up soon of the other models. The Double action version, is very similar minus the 2 piece hammer and the LEM elbow spring.
@@grayguns any updates on the videos of the other models? ty!
Does this also work for the P2000?
It does, we just recently released the P2000 Straight trigger as well
I need this installed in my P30
I have one and it's worth every cent. They say the kit reduces travel by 30% but it's more like 50%.
@@everything_hk no reliability issues ?
@@minnesotanice369 none... No failure to reset & no ADs.
Flat trigger install video?
That video is currently posted to keith_grayguns channel. Once we get a better video put together, we will post it on this channel
All ya gotta do.....lol
As we like to say here in the shop, "Just simply...."
I’m hoping this a how to not make an instructional video?.. can’t see anything with you just throwing parts in
I do apologize for the video quality. I am a gunsmith afterall and not a videographer. We tried our best and will be making more videos in the future hopefully of better quality.