Best Motorcycle Brake Upgrades | The Shop Manual
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A spongy lever, poor feel, feeble power… these are just some issues riders may face with their bike’s brakes. Thankfully, a fix isn’t far away, and it might not even cost you anything. In this video, we’ll outline your options for improving brake function, from something as simple as greasing the lever pivot, to splurging on fancy parts like a radial master cylinder.
Buy fresh brake fluid: rvz.la/3ijTjsr
Get yourself some sintered pads: rvz.la/2SfkKZH
Need stainless brake lines: rvz.la/2Rnx2ig
How about a radial master cylinder: rvz.la/3ga4Sjl
Or full-floating rotors: rvz.la/3cmj5IH
And if you really want to splurge, check out some calipers: rvz.la/3iiHliI
0:00 Intro
1:03 The simple stuff
1:49 Replacing parts
4:12 The big stuff
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Missed the most important part! Shoddy tyres.
HIGH SPEED BRAKING PROBLEM, i have a bike with non floating disc and single channel ABS, When i travel at around 75, to 70 mph and brake even moderately then for a couple of seconds my brake lever is like vibrating, and after a second it settles and full braking feel and power is felt, please help if anyone had this problem, by the way its a bybre caliper.
is it possible to replace stardand clutch to slipper clutch?
There is skill in hard breaking, maybe mention how to progressively apply pressure to allow maximum tyre contact prior to full load. Upgrading master cylinder and lines transformed the brakes on my bike, love the feel and control. New bike has ABS, ouch.
3:20 Ari clearly already running steel lines in his forearms.
Best comment on here
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This is one of the best breakdowns on gradual brake upgrades and rider self improvement I've seen. Simple, informative, and straight to the point. Thank you Ari and RevZilla!
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it.
@@AriH211 Hi Ari, first of all Thank you very much for all these videos. In the last 2-3 years, you have played a pivotal role (along with 3 other youtubers) in bringing a quantum leap in my riding experience. About 7-8 years ago I was a reckless and unsafe rider, after which I brought my speed down significantly to reduce risk but in the last 2-3 years I have been able to ride a lot faster without compromising on safety. And you have played a very significant part in it and I cant thank you enough. I'm also pretty sure I'm one among many whose riding experience you have changed for the better. Thank you.
If Ari of all peoples tells me I should first and foremost practice my braking skills, then he's probably right.
This is gonna sound weird, but I MASSIVELY upgraded my brakes by getting gloves that fit my hand better. I can actually cover the brakes while I ride and I can feel what I'm doing better than when I had overly bulky gloves.
That would only sound weird to anybody who's never ridden with gloves that didn't fit really well. Borrowed my dad's gloves once, it was scary.
Good advice.
Sometimes the best upgrade is knowing your bike and practicing skills. Just like buying a faster bike when you don't even know to use the one you have at its full potential.
@@farmoboy83 I wasn't a newbie when a very good mate told me to take his (rather old) VF 750 around the block. It was fantastic, but as I attempted to both overtake someone and approach a right angle intersection I needed to take at the same time I quickly discovered that while the bike could, I couldn't. He could have. My daily rider was a 400 after more than a few on years on 250s. The Sabre was such a step up in comparison.
I learned a lesson very quickly that day.
@@farmoboy83 ugh, cringe, ok Mr. Miagi
The last part about making sure we are at our best is so critical! I remember listening to a rider in full racing garb, on a gorgeous bike going on about the huge amounts he had spent to lighten it as much as possible, while ignoring the extra 30-40lbs he was carrying above his belt. It makes a difference.
Exactly. Many spend thousands on reducing bike weight and if they lost 10kg would be easier, cheaper, healthier and more effective...
Ari’s content is why I feel comfortable working on my bike
Loved this! It felt very grounded and to be honest, it was refreshing that a video from a site that lives to sell things is explaining that certain types of parts practically are not needed for most people.
Great content.
Both on the technical, easy to understand for fools like me and also comes with proper advice. Thumbs up!
dmax : be your best friend, don't tell yourself you're a fool. And be polite. Have a good day.
If Revzilla puts out a calendar, i expect the battle toad to be featured
Oh man, a calendar like that would be awesome.
Battletoad and Dave are a must !
Flew to CA and borrowed my friend's beat-up bike for the next few weeks, and the front lever felt really squishy. Did a bleed yesterday but was still felt that the brakes were weak and got it from "unrideable" to "much better, but still not perfect". I took it out in the twisties and had to switch to 3 finger braking because the lever kept on hitting my finger when I pulled it in. Gonna do a second round of bleeding today and ordered a set of sintered pads because there isn't a lot of meat left on these guys. This video couldn't have come out at a better time!
@6:03 I would hazard to say this piece of advice applies to all aspects of knowing/getting the most out of your motorcycle. A certain austrian rider and his skills and understanding of his "unimpressive" old cb500 comes to mind, while keeping up with a lot more advanced and expensive bikes, on hard alpine twisties.
Austrian and a cb500, must be Schaaf :D
Definitely schaff
Dear dairy today I overtook a Ferrari in my Alfa Romeo 😇
Back when I had my FZ8 I upgraded the pads with carbone lorraine XBK pads, put on spiegler braided lines and ran Motul RBF600 fluid. My God what a night and day difference!! The factory pads were the biggest limiting factor though. They honestly felt like they were made of wood. The lines definitely firmed up the lever feel though.
As always, a well thought out video. It amazes me how many people don't know changing brake fluid is a maintenance item. Even though it's a "closed" system, moisture still gets in there from heat cycling and it's worse if you're in a humid area. I change my brake fluid about every 2 years, about when it starts noticeably changing color. That's the same schedule I use for my 4 wheeled vehicles. It's amazing how much better a hydraulic system works when it's got good fluid in it!
As new rider (6 months), that last point on 'upgrading the rider' is just so important. I love riding any time but I also love getting into the cap parks and practicing the safety and manoeuvring skills provided on the many brilliant TH-cam channels available. I've learnt so much about myself as well the bike. Highly highly recommend investing time in yourself.
Yes!! Another installment of The Shop Manual and covering a topic I really need for my ZG1000! 👍
I got a 2017 R3 as my first motorcycle. At the end of 2019, I decided I needed something fun. After months of riding, I realized my front master cylinder had a small hairline crack where the lever is installed. I bought a new OEM Yamaha master cylinder, Vortex levers along with EBC sintered pads. Not only did the new master cylinder and levers feel better, but the sintered pads made a HUGE difference. I haven't done any track days but I do have some nice roads nearby I explore with some casual speed. What a difference it made switching to better pads. Great video as always. I always get excited at a new Revzilla video. Seriously, you guys do amazing work. I hope I can meet some of you someday and chat about our 2 wheeled obsessions:D
Love this man, not like that but as a teacher,
Speak for yourself
I do love him like that..
@@dedelabinouze5110 love the way he explain that stuff ,and goes to depth ,
hes one of the best motorcycle educators out there.
Forgot one important thing. I would stick this after ss lines to remove that potential source of line sponge. If the lever is spongy no matter how much you bleed it, AND it is really hard to push the piston(s) back, you might need to rebuild the caliper. Its pretty easy to do and relatively inexpensive too and also makes a night and day difference if your symptoms match up.
Always appreciate TSM Ari! I've learned more from you and Zach than basically anyone.
Been spending my afternoon reading through my Kawasaki GTR 1000 shop manual! Love to have this show as well to help explain things so clearly 👍
The last pointer was the most important! Great video!
Three things that are also very important. Tire quality, tire pressure and shocks. All of them also affect braking!
Nice video 👍
Ari, we all appreciate the straight honest answer you put out into motorcycleverse. Cheers happy riding my friend.
Great info, and yes the limiting factor is usually the loose nut behind the handle bars.
This video is gold. Especially the last minute or so in the parking lot. Thank you.
Ari u are a gem man . i know this stuff but ur explanations just make things better. Gonna do what you said freshen up those braking skills
Ooh! Great info! Thanks, Ari.
Some simple honest advice in this video,,makes a change from someone promoting a product,,massive thanks👍
Good video Ari!
Great video. Thanks for spreading knowledge.
As always 💗 nice to see you and absorb the information...
Awesome video, as always !
Just the content I was looking for! Thanks for the awesome video with great info. I’m definitely looking to get steel braided lines soon.
Happy to see your wing is moving freely again! 👍
Practice..indeed
Ive been through all the perils off self maintaining my sportsbikes but the way you break it down is greatly appreciated for the next gen 💪
I wish Ari and Zach would make about a thousand more video's. Myself and probably everyone else out there would watch them at least a couple times. They offer a wealth of info wether it be basic or advanced and unlike just about everyone else on TH-cam, They aren't annoying. Thanks!
Always informative! Thanks Ari!
Nice job explaining MC brake system and service.
Great practical advice, well presented. Thanks.
Yes replacing brake lines on my buddy’s MT09 took forever and required practically complete disassembly of the bike but the feel and responsiveness is night and day better than my MT09 brakes now
Thanks for this video. I don't know how to ride yet,but knowing this information helps before I get on my first bike.
Perfect video for what I was looking for. Got an HD XG750. Already got new brake pads installed, steel lines on the way. Wanted to find out if I should invest in a new master cylinder, and this video answered that question for me. Great work!
Well done and informative, glad you stressed the cost/benefit ratio and the recommendations at each level. Thanks subscribed!
Right on, glad you appreciated the vid.
100% on the practice. I thought it was hard to do stoppies, but after, only acouple braking sessions a week for a few weeks, it was easy to learn.
I'm a bit late to this re-visited party. I always loved MC-Garage, watch it just because I enjoy it sometimes. And it's fantastic that this became a thing on Revzilla as well. You're doing a great job Ari! I fixed brake fluid, oil change, coolant change, replaced my chain and my rear tire with your helpful tips. Owning a MT10SP since this spring this video makes me feel like you're keeping tabs on me, I might have to upgrade my brakes on that thing. :D
That's great to hear that our vids have helped you work on your bike!
Good content, Ari. A video on diagnosing common issues with brakes would be nice along with a brake rebuild guide.
Love the last tip, got to work on that. Only ever felt the abs twice.
Absolutely perfect advice!
I've rebuilt my calipers, installed braided lines and updated my pads.
I need to grease the brake lever pivot and replace the caliper pad pins (annoyingly not part of the rebuild kit)
Also need to practice hard braking - scary but essential!!
Love the look of that RCS master but it's soooo pricey!
I have done everything for a street rider as per this video, thank you.
Great video - I'd add to this to pull apart your calipers and check the seals. I did this recently, and cleaned out a lot of sludge from behind the pistons. I polished up the pistons etc, and they feel a lot better.
Sage advice from Sensei Ari as always.
Spot on!
Excellent video, super high quality and top notch content!! 😁👍😎💯
Hey Revzilla, just want touch on the brake pad upgrade. I was actually told by Galfer that unless you are running a track bike, they do not recommend their sintered brake pads for the Rear. This is do to having a really strong bite that can lock up the rear on a strong press, which is an all too common situation that can happen during commuting and also off-roading.
They recommend their semi-metallic pad for the rear instead. Which gives a more progressive stop yet still better than OEM.
This can change bike to bike, but I can see what they are getting at. Each person and bike is different and each rear tire is different. Someone running high end super sticky semi slicks can probably handle the sintered or other ceramic pad compound you find in racing pads. To the average joe shmoe and his worn down 5+ year old Street only tire and No ABS, this could be a deadly upgrade, yes.
Thats one thing I see too many people overlook. Want to upgrade stopping power/feel/distance, but ignore the tires. Often in cars/trucks too.
@6:13 Is no one gonna give huge kudos to the editing here?
Ari speaking seamlessly while Battle Toad instantly appears back in frame multiple times??
That's was Spenser's idea, and our editor Stephen made it happen.
Happy any time Battletoad features in these videos! Sound advice thank you - might swap the brake line on my moped for safety.
Thank you
With Ari on Revzilla channel, this turned into my top 3 favourite motorcycle channel. So much great advise and information
Great video mate, very insightful. I'm going to practice in a car park.
Revzilla, please do more videos with Ari!
Great brakedown
The feel of stainless lines is just so addicting.
I was shocked when I did mine, the cost of the stainless steel lines was barely more than the cost of OEM rubber ones, but have a better feel and better durability.
Ooooo, that last one is super true. I stay at the limit of my brakes and bin my bikes quite frequently. Nothing like knowing where the edge is at
Very well said Ari 👏
Totally agree with the work on skill but had to use what ever was available last weekend due to a crash in a race busting my master Cylinder and needed to get it replaced before next race, now have a radial “Braking” master and dang that thing feels sublime 👌
Am I the only one who *really* likes the look of that stripped Superleggera?
Well said. Rian well said , stay well
Great advice as you’ll runout of experience before the brakes are taxed ! Keep the great advise coming 🏍
Great review 👍🏻
Another great video !
Steel brake lines make a huge difference , well worth it even with abs , might be the best upgrade period for a bike , especially sportbikes ,imo , but as always you videos are on point 👍
The last point is the most important. I used to work in the bike industry and was lucky enough to ride alongside pros who could ride old clapped out stock standard OEM POS bikes way faster than 99% of people could on the latest and greatest with all the upgrades. It's very humbling.
Another great upgrade on bikes of this type ie SV650 et al, is find a compatible s/h complete front end like an USD GSXR 600/750. Better forks and waaay better brakes.
Any bike i ever buy for myself, first upgrade is stainless brake lines throughout.
Great vlog as per.
I don't own a motorcycle... Heck never even ridden one but I watched this for some reason 😂 good video!
Nice video! I'm still going out to upgrade the brakes on my tiny R15 xD
Excellent!
When the time comes to replace your rotors might just as well upgrade them... Brembo is hardly more expensive than most oem honda parts in my experience.
Thanks Ari ! You are always a shining star in the motorcycling world 👍😎 I upgraded the brake lines on my 2019 CB1000R with Japanese made stainless steel ones. Swapped OEM brake pads with Daytona (Japanese brand) cintered ones, also swapped the OEM fluid with Motul RBF600 ! Feels like a feather at the lever & it stops like a Cat before it hits the pond 😹
Very true, our bike's original brake has already plenty of stopping power, unless the part worn out then can consider replace with upgrade.
Such perfect advice, younger riders please listen.
Prof. Ari "Swole" Henning at it again !!!
Nice... I'm a big fan of empty parking lot practice; which might sound nerdy/boring, but I think it's fun: Slow speed handling skills, braking drills with abs both on and off, etc.✌️
Perfect timing for me lol. About to do my front brakes next month 😂!!!!
what a nice vid bro
Keeping it 100%
I bought used Ducati and the brakes were horrible!! After I refreshed the system and lubed the pivots, It was totally blessed😇 These really are essential things that most people look over.
Great. The last part is especially important. Try to find the "fault" with the user before trying to find one with the machine may net faster results.
Very informative. Thx
For those with an older GSXR 750 that came with plain rubber lines. I’ve rode a number of bikes and my GSXR felt horrible on my first day leaving the dealer. Upgraded the lines that week. Made all the difference I needed. So, if you just have rubber lines, replace them first and see the difference.
i really admire your journalism skills...Keep it real bro,you impress me with your purity on your videos and subjects,when everybody else try to be good with companies to give them more bikes to present.If your journalism was music,it would be hard rock!
Thanks man, we try to keep it real on TSM.
Some good info for dirt bikes as well. I have a 2005 crf450r that I have been doing sort of a “build” on, to update, refresh and upgrade. Most of my riding buddies have KTM 350s, but no way am I going to drop 11k on one when I have what I have siting in the garage. Saw a recent video showing Sextons race bike, sure enough, the dude uses a 2006 front master cylinder!!! Many people consider the 05-08 crf450r, as one of the best bikes back in day and still a decent bike today. Guess a factory Honda rider using a master cylinder from that era, proves that some of the parts are still decent. I through a relatively cheap oversized floating front rotor on it, and now it brakes sooooo good!!! Was planning on doing steel braided lines and pads as well, but I don’t think there is a need now. I just did the rotor since I was doing new wheels anyway, and it was a good time to do it.
Thanks Ari....
I have been led to understand that when changing brake fluid you should never use a previously opened bottle (talking about storage of many months to a year or two). Something about condensation contaminating the fluid I believe.
But this leads to a whole lot of unused brake fluid being disposed of at every fluid change.
I would be grateful for your take on this.
Thank you much!
Yup, that's the recommendation, though I'll admit to using fluid that's been previously opened. The issue is that break fluid is hygroscopic, which means it will absorb moisture out of the air. But if it's in container with a tightly sealed lid, then it'll be fine. Master cylinders don't even seal perfectly, after all.
@@AriH211
Thank you Sir. Much appreciated indeed!
A little known brake accessory that I have used on several bikes over the years is a hydraulic pulse damper on the front brake. Next to ABS it is the best improvement you can make to reduce "pulsing" (assuming it is not due to warped brake rotor, etc.) when braking heavily over a washboard surface. When braking on uneven surfaces the loading and unloading of the front suspension causes a pressure pulse in the hydraulic system that tends to lock the brakes when the loading is reduced and the front suspension travels down. The damper is a small cartridge that attaches to the brake line at the front brake actuator with a banjo fitting. The one I installed on my Kawasaki Versys 650 was made by TCB Brake Systems, LLC. Years ago I had a similar product installed on a Yamaha XS500. I now have a Kawasaki Concours 14 that has ABS and TC so it would not be of benefit.
Seems that website and company has shut down? Only has like 20 subscribers on youtube... "tcbmarklipski"
I put a Brembo RCS master cylinder on every bike that doesn’t already have radial master cylinders already. SO much better!
small note for more experienced wrenchers, splitting the calipers to inspect, clean and refurb the calipers and pistons does wonders, sticky pistons will rob you of overall brake power and make the pads wear less even, also, brake fluid comes in many different ratings, dot 4, dot 5, dot 5.1, but personnaly i prefer motul rbf660 since it has an insane dry boiling point compared to dot4, after switching i never had brake fade again, and i'm running steel braided lines, brembo rcs19 and brembo RC pads (yes those are the carbon ones) on a 2005 R1, sure i'm not squeezing every ounce of potential out of the brakes but it stops on a friggin dime.
your videos are gr8
One ☝️ other cheap brake upgrade that has worked for all my bikes is a high performance brake fluid, in my case I use castrol reactive brake fluid. Yes 👍 you did say about replacing old fluid but not with high performance . I have also upgraded brakes with braided lines and calliper upgrades with adopter plates .