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- How to get that 911 Porsche Allocation. We all want our dream car and a Porsche 911 is usually on the top of that list. This video shows some tips an ideas on how to secure your Porsche allocation from the dealer. Hope you enjoy
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Would you pay a markup for a Porsche? Tell me below
Find a used CPO 2023 with options you want. Enjoy the next 6yrs with warranty unlimited miles. Or buy any 911 with less than 10k miles and get extended fidelity platinum warranty for loww cost.
no
@@lw8447 how much does the fidelity cost usually? I’ve never done
@@VisionT7 Lower the miles the better
No mark up in Europe. I just had to call my dealer early.
I recently scored an allocation for a base 911 at MSRP. I have previously purchased two Macan's at this dealership but I doubt that was a factor. The best way to get an allocation is go in and pay your $5,000 deposit and wait. It's amazing how allegedly hard to get allocations suddenly appear once you put down a deposit. 💰💰
I ended up just going pre-owned and have been very happy. I also make it a point to do all service at that dealer, even if it’s more expensive than a local shop, so I have more opportunity to pop into the showroom and just talk to people. I feel like I’ve started a great relationship with the local dealer and can get myself on the wait list when I’m ready. The other benefit of starting with pre-owned is the almost immediate immersion, if you want, into the social element of it. Opportunities for relationship building grow exponentially at that point. I’ve been really happy with my decision.
Great work my guy. Happy to see another Porsche fan behind the wheel.
One thing that may work for others on the relationship building step - prove to the sales associate that you actually drive your cars. This will heavily depend on the sales associate, but with no relationship whatsoever, I drove to the dealership in my 75k mile Viper GTS. Explained I drive my cars and have wanted something refined like the 911. He was excited to see the Viper and said would rather see me in a 911 than the long list he has of people just flipping them. Few weeks later I was putting my deposit down on a 2024 Carrera T.
That’s a cool story man.
Didn’t realize it was this way. Thought it was: “I’m willing to pay you a lot of money, get my car”.
@@DrivenA111 Right now there are more customers than cars. The sales associates need to make calculated decisions on who gets an allocation. Heck, I recently found out they only have so many allocations for gifts during the build process (was lucky enough to get one of the model cars). You will likely need to stand out, beyond just having the money, to get a 911 allocation.
@@vwjet2001 bwahahahahahaha
I have purchased ( MSRP) a 911 Carrera Cabriolet , scheduled to arrive here in Naples, FL on 5 July, 2024
Congrats man.
Interesting video and almost entirely accurate. The Rolex business model I noted in the comments is pretty accurate too. You can't waltz in and buy a Daytona if you've never bought a Datejust. But maybe if you've bought a few watches over the years you MIGHT get a call when a GMT or Daytona becomes available. They're simply not going to call someone who has never done business there before. This holds true for Porsche dealers too.
One thing I will dispel the myth about is the "list". Yes, all dealers and their individual Brand Ambassadors maintain lists of prospective buyers. But this is only a list. It has no real bearing on who gets an allocation. When an allocation becomes available the dealer is going to look at several factors when deciding who gets offered the build slot. #1 are they LOCAL? #2 are they previous customers? #3 do they have a trade? #4 are they willing to pay an ADM? # 5 will they finance or lease as opposed to paying cash? Honestly, #4 is probably the least important factor. Being a local is EXTREMELY important now. PCNA will penalize dealers for selling out of their market by withholding future allocations. I would be shocked if you find a dealer willing to sell you a car from out of state unless it has a huge ADM. That's the only way the dealer can justify it while being penalized. Being a previous customer obviously helps too. You are always going to offer someone who has bought several cars from you an allocation over someone new. Next, have a trade if possible! Of course dealers want trades so they can have another unit to sell. Good cars are still hard to come by and chances are very good that if you are buying a 911, you probably have a car that the dealer would like to have in trade. Next be willing to pay a reasonable ADM. $5-10k over for a Carrera is not unreasonable when used 2021's are still selling for over their original MSRP. Heck last time I checked here locally, KIA was getting $15k over MSRP on a Telluride. Just keep it in perspective. And don't bother crying about it to the manufacturer. Dealers are all independent and can do what the market dictates. Lastly, consider financing or leasing even if you can afford to pay cash. I know rates are high but that's not the dealers fault. If you finance or lease (especially if you go through Porsche Financial Services) the dealership gets a little bonus. It ain't much but I've literally seen a customer chosen over another because they were financing as opposed to paying cash. People that think paying cash is going to improve their chances are kidding themselves. If you have to, finance the deal and then pay if off in 6 months with the cash you have.
The most important thing you said that I agree with is that you need to go in person and make a connection with your Brand Ambassador and anybody else on their management team. I can promise you that this goes SO much further than submitting an internet lead with a build code and waiting for an allocation. The old stereotype of scummy sales people is largely a thing of the past, at least when it comes to Porsche. Most Brand Ambassadors that work for Porsche are enthusiasts themselves and would like to help you make your dream come true. Remember that they are in a tough spot too as they usually have to give 9 out of 10 people bad news instead of good. Lastly, when you DO go into your LOCAL dealer to make the connection, come in with a positive attitude, check your ego at the door, and tell us what you are trying to accomplish. No matter how much money you might have I can promise you I have customers that have more, and treat me with respect. I will always go out of my way to help if the prospective buyer is someone who genuinely appreciates what he or she is buying, enjoys the process and is a pleasure to work with. There is no more sure-fire way to guarantee you WON'T get a car than acting like an entitled jerk!
I have been with Porsche for over 12 years now as a Brand Ambassador and hope some of this advice helps your viewers.
I wish you the best of luck moving forward and hope you get that allocation soon!
This was the most insightful response I’ve ever had. Including my other channel. Really great info and makes feel better about my path to a 911. I did get a local allocation for a 911T no ADM. pretty much everything I stated is what I did to get my car.
Question for you. I am super nervous about. I want/plan to register car in my business name that is of course based out of Montana. Since I’m registering out of state will that muddy up the waters with the dealer?
@@VisionT7 Congratulations on the allocation! The T is an excellent choice for an enthusiast and I'm sure you will love it.
Ahh yes the old Montana question. This is going to depend greatly on the state you live in and the dealer's policy toward this. From what I hear, some dealers don't care one bit but I assume they are located in states that don't actively monitor these transactions and won't penalize dealers that sell to tax-haven states. While there is nothing "illegal" about registering your car to an LLC based in Montana, it's certainly shady - at least to the dealers I work with and follow. Occasionally there is a legit reason to do this but in my experience it is simply trying to dodge the tax associated with your purchase. Most of the Montana LLC's I have dealt with are little more than a PO Box in MT and if you dig deeper it will be an attorney's office that the buyer hired for a few bucks to use his or her address. I will tell you that the dealer I work for stopped selling to buyers using the MT strategy about 5 years ago after another local dealer was fined $250k for allowing this practice to continue. Our state (Nevada) has become very aggressive in tax collecting and will audit dealers to make sure taxes are collected. To keep it as simple as possible - if you have a NV driver's license - you are paying NV tax no matter what. If you get pushback from your dealer on this, do not let it get in the way of acquiring the car. If you have to pay tax on your purchase just do it and pretend it's the ADM. In fact, I'm not sure I would even mention your MT plan as the dealer that gave you the allocation might get cold feet. If you are close to your Brand Ambassador maybe feel him/her out about this but be prepared to abandon your MT plan to keep the allocation if necessary.
One last thing about the MT thing: Here in Las Vegas this was a common practice for many years. One major problem is that virtually all the cars running around Las Vegas with MT plates are exotic cars. I still see a number of Ferrari's, Lambo's, Mclaren's, etc. rolling around with the MT plates. Guess what the average Joe thinks when they park next to one of these cars? "Just another rich asshole that refuses to pay their taxes like the rest of us working stiff's". I can't tell you how many stories I've heard of these cars getting kicked, keyed, or believe it or not - peed on! I'm not saying this is right but let's face it, a guy walks out of a casino after having a few drinks and losing his rent money at blackjack and sees a Ferrari with MT plates parked next to his F-150. Guess what happens?
My advice at the end of all this is to simply register the car where you live, pay your taxes and suck it up. If you do pursue the MT strategy be prepared to have the dealer take away the allocation - and I would not risk that.
Best of luck!
@@michaelanderson4318 I’m in Tx but my company is all over the place. I chose Montana for the tax benefits. You bring up a lot of valid points. Hmmmm
💯 the tide is already shifting with supply and demand. Several factors in the economy are also putting pressure on retailers, their leverage is dwindling.
By Christmas time, things are gonna be quite different
I hope
You were right, Base, T, and even S allocations readily available in SoCal dealers.
Hey man good information. When talking to one of the Porsche sales ambassadors, they said the lack of cars is due to a two year transition. I bet it’s regarding electrification. Also lots of low miles 911s have a built in ADM. Some dealers also want customers to purchase another vehicle prior to getting an allocation. Pretty crappy. Try Isringhausen in Springfield Illinois.
You rock! I will look at them now. Yeah I noticed they really want big money customers or repeats. Similar to the Ferrari method. 😒
Dealer #1: one year later still no allocation
Dealer #2: built a relationship (aka kissed ass) and got an allocation in 3 months.
Just submitted my final build last week, now waiting til Feb 2024 for delivery!
I hate this crap but congrats friend.
What did your ass kissing involve?
I got a GT4 allocation 2 years ago then a GT3 recently. Both at MSRP (shout out Porsche Littleton in Denver). In both cases I was on a wait list and got an allocation someone else backed out of last minute. So my advice is have a relationship with a Porsche Brand Ambassador and be ready to go. You may have an hour to decide when you get the call.
Lucky dog. Love a gt3 so much
I bought two CPO’s from my local dealer (Targa GTS and turbo S) and let them take my trade in. Now I can pretty much get anything I want on allocation. I’ve been offered a GT3 RS spot but it still has the ADM which is insane.
I mean that’s a crazy car. Cool you have that relationship now.
I'm here before this channel blows up 😂
Lol. I wish
@@VisionT7it will for sure 👍🏻
I received my Carrera S allocation in 3 months, by doing a configuration online and visiting the local dealership a few times.
I have a 911 T allocation…I purchased a cayman s and asked for the allocation and got it
Well that’s one way to get it. I love love my T. Hope u do as well
Good video! I was thinking of combing nationwide while on local lists. No local mark-up on Carrera S..unicorns now. 15k local mark-up on GTS. GTS manual steering column and PDCC unavailable.Unsure on base Carrera or T lists. Cayman/Boxster already slated for ICE extinction. GT product unobtainium as well. Good luck, everyone!
Right. I hope this year it all stood but doubt it. Got to pay to play
My wife bought a Cayanne last year so I told the salesperson I also wanted to get a 911. We started the process and he put in the build request.
However, they said it was going to take 2-3 years! For a 911 Carrera!
So after about 6 months of waiting all of a sudden last month they called me and said there was someone that bailed on their order and I could leapfrog everyone. One catch. It was ordered by the customer as a European delivery. We decided to take it and use points travel and go get it.
When we walked into the office to hand them a check the salesperson told me get ready to turn in that 911 soon because now I’ll get my build much sooner!
We’ll see when that happens.
I found 3 dealers in my area who were charging MSRP for locals. I got on the list at all 3. I went for a 911 T mainly because for some reason people don't want them and the list was way shorter. 5 vs 20. I got a last minute 2023 when someone backed out after waiting about 3 months. Had to lock the spec in 2 weeks. Then a couple months later another dealer got me a 2024 that I turned down because I prefer the 2023. So I was able to get 2 cars in about 5 months.
Interesting, what is different between the 2023 and 2024?
The .2 were supposed to come out, but I think they’ve been pushed back again.
That’s crazy. I got super lucky on mine. No ADM
I guess I'm rare cuz all of my GT cars were purchased at MSRP, and spec'd by me. Two of my GT cars came straight from Porsche Motorsport (GT4 RS and 992 GT3 RS). They were both one of only nine in North America that came from Porsche Motorsport. When they come from Porsche Motorsport then they are at MSRP. But, luckily, my 992 GT3 and my Spyder RS were also sold to me at MSRP by my dealer. This is due to my VIP connection and also cuz I had a 992 GT3 Cup car for a race team.
Just got my 992 turbo s allocation today after waiting since may 2022, Feb delivery
Congrats dude. What’s your insta?
I just got one about 2 weeks ago. Delivery is in September 2024. Someone backed out and I contacted them on the right day.
Porsche Beaverton Oregon. They do not do markups. I got a turbo GT PTS $38,000 in customizing. Not a penny markup.
God what a car
I have bought cars from three different dealers and I have not paid an ADm on any of my porsche purchases. I have bought six Porsche vehicles in the last two years - and I have a great relationship with three different dealers. I did recently agree to pay $40,000 Premium over msrp for a 2024 GT3 allocation. Not real happy about this premium but that is about what these GT3’s are selling for in the secondary market and why should a dealer sell me a car that I can flip for $50,000 profit.
I finally got one and no ADM. only dealer in Tx. A referral helped me. I feel like Porsche is adapting the Rolex model of buying new. Got to be in the club before getting msrp lol.
3 different dealers...damn...what cars did you buy? ... dealership I deal with charges at msrp when an individual is awarded an allocation....I only had to pay one time over msrp on a pre-owned 2018 GT3 .....40K over for any porsche GT series car when you have already bought other vehicles....I don't think so
I wanted to purchase a porshe 911 Carrera base. What is an allocation?
The allocation is the amount of cars the dealer gets for that model with a time frame. Porsche cut back a lot so it’s making them harder to get.
Guys when do you pay the total price? While pre ordering or when u take ur car ?
When you Take care but you can deposit whatever you want.
There’s no way you can allocation for a 911 GT3 or even RS unless you get 6 to 8 cars a year.
Its hard to get an allocation for carrera. I think its impossible to get a gt3 😂
Facts!!! I got on list today for next Carrera S. The GTS markup is pissing me off. 🤬
If I had the $ I would pay 5k$ over. That's it!!!! I have been wanting a Porsche for thirty years and had the money five years ago to pull the trigger and did not. I had no idea that cars would become only for the very wealthy. Average Joe's have no chance to get a GT car nowadays. I love the GTS too and it is my favorite. It has the best bang for the buck or at least it did before these damn markups. Good luck bro. I hope you get one.
Appreciate you
I met with both Austin Porsche dealers and it was a big waste of time! 20K + msrp. Supply will catch up with demand soon so I believe paying ADM will quickly put you upside down on the car.
Well, I highly suggest reaching out to North Houston. No adm.
What’s the point. Just skip all those steps and pay the markup
Lmfao. Shoot a lot of dealers still won’t sell you the car. Need to build relationships. They really have taken on the business model of other luxury brands.
I wonder if Porsche themselves are in on this stuff getting kick backs? Why would they allow dealers to overcharge their best clients otherwise?
@@thunderpants007 first off…. I love your name. Second…. My understanding is Porsche has drastically reduced production numbers so it’s harder to get but who really knows.
Got mine 911 T allocation in 7 months sticker price
Nice dude. Congrats. Did it come in early?
@@VisionT7 approximately 7 more months a week to build sat at port over 3 months
@@tabblakely4987 sat at port 😱. Mine says December delivery. Hope it’s earlier
saved under "to when I buy a Porsche"
Appreciate it. It’s been a lot of work to get one
Which Austin Dealer did you go to....Austin or South Austin?
Both are fine but I refused to go to them or the San Antonio. They want 15-20k markups. North Houston has no markups. They just want first dibs if you sell or trade in. Great experience with them too.
@@VisionT7 did you get an allocation from them and for what 911.
@@gloriariley-schaaf2490 I did. I wanted the 911T without markup (at that time). They were the only one who would not do markup. I believe it’s the same for the GTS as well. If you tune the T for $1500 you get the GTS performances fyi. Don’t void warranty. Just food for thought. If you are serious I can give you a referral. Find me on Instagram to discuss more. @porschetribe
I simply walk into my Porsche dealer and say i want to order a new one. It’s really that easy.
It is getting easier now but still hard in most places.
For 30 k over MSRP I will buy it pre owned any day probably cheaper.
Right. I refused
Puh, I think the Porsche Brand is nothing for me. As an entrepreneur I do not have the time and also don't want to hang out at multiple dealerships.
@@marcr.6191 totally get it
I received an allocation for a 992gt3 in Southern California. All I did was do two transactions with them, a sale 150k and a purchase of a 320k gt2. All you gotta do is spend money there. Really what it boils down to. No one cares for chit chat. They want to transact!
I feel there is truth to that now. I’m seeing the tide change.
Was looking at a turbo s had no idea this was the state with Porsche. There’s no way I’m kissing someone’s ass just for the privilege to spend 300k with them. Especially when there’s other brands out that that simply command more respect and attention than Porsche. I’m not an enthusiast by any means just want something nice. Can’t imagine this being good for business. If someone goes with another brand then it’s likely they get locked into that brand for future cars.
I agree. I think it’s a way to deter the people who buy their cars to hold an resell for higher price. Porsche wants their cars driven an with people who are loyal to the brand.
I just hate the markup crap. Drives me nuts.
I don't get it, I want a specific car, I have the money why can I not walk into a dealership and buy even a used car? This absolutely sucks.
They hold all the cards. Limited stock and giving preference to reoccurring customers. Same thing Rolex does.
@@VisionT7 gonna do the most blasphemous thing.... watch me...lool
@@namtech425 need my popcorn
Porsch-e
ok ok got better later with the video :)
Lol. I caught myself. I’ll fix my vocabulary. I just got my allocation an a build date. I have no choice now but to say it right
@@VisionT7 nice congrats!! I wish to get one for a T or S with aero kit. For now I’m stuck with my 981s haha
@@alpinetrader stuck!! Lol it’s a great car. My T will be here in January. Seriously talking with fellow enthusiast led me to get a referral from a guy. Really helped
@@VisionT7 had it for almost 5 years already but I just completely redid my interior so it’s more like a gt3rs interior lol and I track it often.
All viewers are brokie's 😂😂
Dead ass. Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So you pay 150k and do this shit?
Sorry not my cup of tea if i need to kiss the ass or agree for an insane markup for a car. Porsche is a good car but not more than a good car to justify this insanity.
Right. I’m right there with you. I got offered a few allocations at markup. I laughed at them. One team said no markup just give them a chance to buy back.
I had to let my search cool off for a bit. Was on the hunt for a GT4. Found one at a local dealer in Brooklyn. But that deal fell through. Asked for an allocation on a GTS 4.0 and they wanted 10K over. Went to another local dealer and they said getting an allocation wouldn’t be an issue. Went through the entire song and dance. Wait for them to take my deposit and nothing….
To me it isn’t worth paying over on a car that isn’t a special car. Prices are cooling off a bit…Will see what happened next two years.
@@anthonyromano6921 facts. Things are cooling off. I swore there was a dealer out there not doing mark ups for locals.
Silly video for a fellow that has only bought one Porsche ever…
Silly comment for a guy who missed the point of the video. I’ve bought 31 cars in 16 years ranging in types. This is my path to getting one and I think you missed that. How about showing support to a person that is passionate about these cars instead of putting them down. Just an idea 🤷♂️
Oh an I have my allocation using everything I spoke about in this video.
Good video! I was thinking of combing nationwide while on local NW lists. No local mark-up on Carrera S..unicorns now. 15k local mark-up on GTS. GTS manual steering column and PDCC unavailable.Unsure on base Carrera or T lists. Cayman/Boxster already slated for ICE extinction. GT product unobtainium. Good luck, everyone!
Great info dude. Go make that video. Find me on insta too @visiont7