A lot of idiots nowadays call anyone who disagrees with them a fascist or white supremacist, but make no mistake, Ludvig Borga was EXACTLY THAT. Marky's not exaggerating here, Borga was a vile human being and as sad as it is to say about another person's death, the world is a better place without him in it.
I was talking to a friend the other day about how Tanaka deserved better. He should've been IC champion, instead they spent all that time building him up and getting him over just to drop it all in a squash match with this clown. Who's time in the company was as brief as it was forgettable.
@comradecam9530 his time in the UFC was even shorter. Like maybe a minute. The announcers were making fun of him, saying did he realize he wasn't in the WWF anymore.
maybe in looks, but to compare him to Lesnar is an insult. Look at Lesnar's matches in his first run...he was as powerful as anybody else but with the speed and agility of a cruiser weight, plus the fact that he had a technical pedigree to rival Kurt Angle.
Anyone remember Eric Escobar? I'm pretty sure he was on Smackdown in 2009 or 2010. He was briefly Vicky Guerrero's on-screen boyfriend before they randomly tried to make him a face. Then he just disappeared. Seems like good fodder for this series.
I remember him. I actually liked his PRE-WWE main roster work. BEFORE Smackdown, he was the FCW heavyweight champion (which would be equal to being the NXT champion in modern times). Then the poor guy goes to Smackdown and becomes... Vicki Guerroro's boyfriend. Talk about a demotion. LMAO. From what I heard, some main roster road agent decided to be a bully towards him and sabotaged him (Vince would give instructions to the road agent to give to Escobar and the road agent would purposely tell Escobar the complete OPPOSITE thing, just to screw him over. By the time Escobar caught on, he was in hot water). After WWE, I think he went by the name Eric Perez and won every major championship in Puerto Rico (in BOTH of the major wrestling promotions in Puerto Rico).
Everyone calling him a racist, but it's hard to judge as I don't know any details. Certainly Jim Ross calling him that means nothing, since JR was a liar and a racist himself. As a wrestler he was impressive, and I loved how Ludwig destroyed The Rocker at Summerslam.
@@JLvatron he literally was a leader of a neo nazi gang in his homeland, dude went to prison for hate crimes. He became a drug addict and ran for political office. Check out his documentary
ofc because thats how you guys are, willing to ignore the bad when something entertains you so highly, thats what describes the wwe and the people that support it and watch
@@wesleywarsmith1113 He must be almost impossible to spot. They were probably casting the heavies solely based on their appearance (looking either Northern or Eastern European).
The funniest shit about all this was how the WWF was trying to make us hate the evil Finns. Most Americans couldn't find Finland on a map or be pressed to name one thing about the country. Nowadays it's a memetastic nation for it's abundance of saunas, rally cars, and complexity of Finnish, but ask a wrestling fan in 1993 if they knew anything about the nation that shelters much of Lapland and... *shrugs*
The most Americans are stupid thing is getting kind of played out. Most Americans no where Finland is, Most Americans don't give a rats as about Finland just like most of the world doesn't give a damn about Finland.
Rusev was originally built as Russian because the average viewer probably has no idea what or where Bulgaria is. I wonder if Ludwig Borga should've been built from Sweden or Norway with a similar viking gimmick he had in NJPW and outside wrestling.
I've been rewatching RAW from the beginning and yeah, that loss ended his momentum and six months later he's reduced to just being a lacky for Ted Dibiase. It's sad, because he was at his peak and totally deserved to be a star at the time. He would've made a great IC champion.
@@charlesiofaustria7361 No surprise there with HBK, he could have easily have won it back a few months later at KOTR or Summerslam since they had him drop to Marty in May and then won it back before KOTR when Diesel debuted.
@@RustieFawn You're not erasing history, you are just choosing not to show it or show the asshole in a good light be they fascist or murderer..... pity Snuka couldn't go to trial.
When I was watching WWF as a preteen during this time where Borga was on the Heel rise, I was legit scared of this guy Borga. I literally thought that he was going to defeat Lex and Bret Hart, because he was being presented like a credible threat to the main event players.
A bit of a note, that final match was taped 10 days before the Rumble (1/12/94) so he was already gone when it aired. It's weird but sometimes they used to have stuff already taped for post-PPV episodes back then.
I've seen some of his boxing matches. They weren't very good. They were after his wrestling career so maybe that explains it. He did lose to a black man so that makes me happy
@@eltornadoAfmHe literally got into pro boxing because he was booing the fight between Larry Holmes and Oliver McCall. A local boxing promoter said if you can do better then why don't you fight on my card in the next few weeks, Halme accepted and won! He was definitely a legit tough guy and did decent to win his country's title, even if Finland isn't exactly a boxing country Halme literally didn't train until he took that fight in America on a dare. Yes he did get beat by two black guys I believe with a much smaller and lankier guy knocking him out with one shot, he did also beat a few black guys himself. There's a story about him saving a woman who a man was attempting to r@pe, Halme broke both of his arms and claimed he would have broke both of his legs if the police didn't come in time.
Yer Piper said so on a Superstars in Summer of 91 just before he came back to ring he said i know hes good enough now on his own.. Heres one tho Virgil 87-93 Million Dollar Title half that time Body Guard belongs in WWE HOF right? (I say Yes) But Matt Cardona All Tag titles IC & US title 2007-2019 and i'd say he dosn't thats how far the Midcard has fallen when a lower Midcard jobber to stars like Virgil (He beat jobbers) belongs and a Midcard IC Champ like Ryder dosnt!
I've been waiting for this for so long. As a Finn it's cool to see some light be shown on Borga, and good that his antics outside the ring were told as well, since he was an absolute prick from all accounts. Curiously he had an acting career, and probably the highlight is to see him in Die Hard With a Vengeance as one of the German thugs. Name Ludwig Borga annoys me, since it isn't that Finnish sounding, his real name Toni Halme could've worked.
yeah he was realy a nasty dude, I think pretty everytime you saw something in the news about him, it was something bad, I cant even rember anything good comming out what was about him
Have to admit that once I got used to Finnish names from playing FHM, I kinda got boggled about the ring name. Did know the guy was a piece of work already at any rate.
I once saw him box on Eurosport and singing some weird rap dressed as a Viking on Eurotrash on channel 4 back in the early 2000s. he did the JOB at those also.
I was scrolling to see if anyone brought up his music career. One of the most surreal things I've come across. The song was probably Viikinki. Crazily the Quebecers also have a rap song too. Must of been something about that survivor series team....
Borga is quoted as saying “if a lesbian can be president of Finland and I can be a member of Parliament, anything seems possible.” Their president was never a lesbian lol.
It was a famous rumor all around the news.Tarha Halonen, short, fat, redhead who founded movement called (this is a real name, i'm not making this up) "Rainbow people's rights party" + it was late 90s early 00s and she famously looked like Conan O Brien, they even met bacause of that.. So.. That's why.. Great president, hope she's doing well but that's what everyone was thinking about
There was popular joke at the time he said that. ”Tony halme called president tarja halonen lesbian and later apologized to tarja about it, if tarja would call tony gay she would have to apologize all the gay people”
I remember watching Borga as a kid, He was my favorite heel. He had a great look and he could have been world champion he was such a bad ass. Was really disappointed after SVRSRS 93 as I thought this man was going places. RIP he was a hell of a wrestler.
Check out his tag match against haku and earthquake in japan. Haku and earthquake basically beat him up for real in a ring. He had to flee from japan after that.
@@Dr.Meth666 sadly neither can i. It is on documentary about him that aired earlier this year in finland. Fight agains scott norton was lackluster, tony halme (his real name) knocked him out with one suckerpunch.
@@Dr.Meth666 so was tony, terrible human being with hard childhood and found an outlet for his difficult childhood. Strength sports, bodybuilding, drugs (both recreational and steroids) and fighting.
He was pretty solid in the ring and had a great character if he had a bit longer in wwe and didnt have the controversies he would be in the hall of fame
Why do I suspect that WWE's refusal to induct "controversial" (I hate that euphemism when we could just say "offensive" instead) people into their Hall of Fame stems not from true moral outrage, but from embarrassed backtracking?
@@zackfrodsham1259 We could offer all kinds of arguments for why certain people should not be in WWE's Hall of Fame, but in the end it all comes down to public relations. Morality in both the political and corporate arenas is superficial and pragmatic, involving "apologizing" for and condemning actions long after they've occurred and have mostly been forgotten.
I was devastated when Tatanka lost his winning streak. However, for as little time as Ludvig Borga was in the WWF, he did create a lasting impression. So many midcard guys are there for years and you don't even notice when they're gone.
I find it interesting that no evidence of the alleged racism is presented here, and the audience is expected to accept those assertions as gospel. That which can be asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence.
People will pay a lot of money to see a guy they don't like to get knocked out. You give him an undefeated streak, people will keep buying tickets hoping they'll be there when it happens
I'm all but convinced that political correctness has ruined storytelling. Villains are rarely allowed to be truly evil anymore, and as a result have been turned into jokes. Heaven forbid that we would look at supremacist characters from a nuanced perspective, or even sympathize with their feelings even as we condemn their actions. Because contrary to what popular culture depicts, racist/sexist/homophobic people are not just smug bullies, but often tormented and traumatized people, even seeing themselves as the true victims. But even if we insist on depicting these characters as completely irredeemable and deserving of no sympathy, we still need to depict them as competent. I have no problem with a "monster heel" in wrestling being revealed to be a coward deep down, but he should never be a wimp. Too many heels in wrestling are made to look pathetic, as if their only reason for existing is to be laughed at or as if people would never respect the hero unless he cleaned every adversary's clock in record time. I want to see a return to the 1990s pro wrestling narratives - the ones in which the heels were true figures of terror and the babyfaces had to become a little heelish themselves in order to take them down.
@@SeasideDetective2 completely agree with you but the guy in question wasn’t telling a story. And agree a again about heels being wimps. If I was the bad guy in a real fight I would do some nasty things to the guy I’m feuding with. It’s just normal.
@@Markyd123 I struggle, however, with the idea that actors should be judged by their personal beliefs, or even conceptually annihilated when they perform actual misdeeds outside of the realm of entertainment. When watching an actor, we're supposed to temporarily abandon our belief that he's anything other than his character. And if the character himself is a villain, that should be merely a happy coincidence. Even when the bad man is a professional wrestler, and thus to some extent portraying himself, I try to suspend disbelief. I don't think, for example, that it's hypocritical to continue to think of Chris Benoit as a great hero. If he'd been committing murders the whole time and thus living a lie it would be one thing, but he was not a murderer when he was at the height of his popularity and he never planned on becoming one. Can't we at least remember that he USED to be a good guy?
I think you want to return to a time when your brain was more smooth. 1990s wrestling 'narratives' were not what you seem to remember. It might have just been that you were a child and perceived them as such. Myself and many people I know have an opposite impression. Wrestling was at an all-time high of cartoony goofy characters in the early 90's. The Undertaker is great but my god he was presented in a way that screams 'this is all fake and is for small children'@@SeasideDetective2
The fact that he and Luger only met for the first time in a Survivor Series tells us they were going to wait until Mania for the blow off. Absolutely insane. They banked way too much on this guy.
My favourite short run in all of wrestling. This character absolutely captivated me as a kid, the dangerous and arrogant aura he gave off I think was unrivalled in wrestling until at least Brock came 9 years later. A big 'what if' for me as the injury (along with all the other things) halted WWF's big plans for him. Having no clue what he got up to I spent the 90s hoping for a return. Despite who he was as a person I will always love this character presentation and the excitement as a kid I had for where this character was going (which ended up being nowhere).
@@The80sWolf_It’s similar but different, his is a flapjack leading to the punch while Ogogo’s is a popup leading to the pinch since he can’t be bithered to actually learn to do it properly
lol damn that's crazy. I remember Borga. I was only about 8 and I remember thinking he was a scary bad guy and I understood the intensity in the character. Crazy how we're all at one point just kids watching this magical world of pretend and good and bad guy giants. You never really actually know who these people are in real life lol smh.
@@aperson5215 It would be a Sin not to Smack yourself with a Grin every time the Fin gets a Win, especially if it's via Pin, in which case you have to throw yourself in the Bin
@@chocobros1 I would rather have a twin to throw in the bin every win via pin so I am able drink some gin while slapping myself with a Grin during the Fins wins even if The Fin also deserves the Bin
@@aperson5215 but your twin is your kin and it's a sin to throw your kin in a bin, even if it lets you drink gin out of the tin until you spin with a grin on your chin instead of being binned every time the fin gets a win with a pin.
@@chocobros1 Even if the twin was my kin I'd still throw them in the bin so I can spin my chin in an inn everytime the Fin gets a win via pin in the Ring
ludwig throwing opponents in the air then give them a punch was the coolest move ,until years later cesaro was doing the same but with uppercut during his wwe days and taking that move with him to AEW
As a bisexual weirdo, I absolutely hate Ludwig Borga as a person - but even I have to admit, I was surprised by how decent he was in the ring. Still though, he's been "Chris Benoit"ed in my mind.
Here in the netherlands they showed a lot of new japan pro wrestling in the 90s on eurosport and borga/tony halme was a huge star there. The dutch announcer would always claim he was swedish though. Lol
I'm confused cuz you always hear about the ankle-injury, but he himself said that he broke his back in a match with Razor Ramon when they slipped while trying to do Razor's Edge off the top rope
Damn bro, I can't imagine the amount of time you must spend researching, watching, and putting together these videos.... Fantastic work. Thought you deserve that at the very least.
Tony Halme/Borga wasn't a fascist. He was one of those people who let their wrestling persona get mixed in to their real persona. He was an unapologetic agitator, a taunter and a thug. That all roots to his childhood and him deciding to "make it" and become stronger than his enemies and haters and he lived and breathed that mentality until he died. He had a comedic tv show where he went to a psychic and the psychic told him he senses a strong feminine side to him. Well anyway, you could say that's the side of him he tried to protect by building and overly brutal body and personality around it, the victim he used to be. He also had a south american black girlfriend at one point.
The Quebecers! Everytime they were sent out as foreign heels, what were the guys thinking? "Aah the French! Those age old enemies of the American nation." 😂
I dont care about anyones politics I think Borga was fairly underrated and maybe a few years ahead of his time ie brock lesnar. He wasnt lacking in charisma, solid brawling thug. He was so high impact and clean....and foreign...i dont think fans knew what to make of him. The sympathy for Tatanka taking his first loss overshadowed the fact that Borga achieved the victory. He wasnt bad
Whenever you see a Borga type in this time period, its just a matter of how far you get before a Virgil mini-squash. Was really thrown by a Slapnuts appearance in a gaming ad this week, but that guy is everywhere.
HAWK, I would love for you to do a video featuring Scott Steiner promos (and giving your thoughts on them), especially shoot promos. He really ripped Flair a new one on his promos while putting the rival company over.
I made two part documentary about his career and life, did you use it as a source or did you just read stuff online? I'm just curious, nice video, many Americans make a lot of mistakes in Borga videos. You only had one mistake i noticed. Amateur boxing career. There was no amateur run
A lot of idiots nowadays call anyone who disagrees with them a fascist or white supremacist, but make no mistake, Ludvig Borga was EXACTLY THAT. Marky's not exaggerating here, Borga was a vile human being and as sad as it is to say about another person's death, the world is a better place without him in it.
Facts.
Seems like a decent bloke.
It's not vile to care about your own nation and history and not want them to be destroyed by foreign subversives.
Things get blown out or proportion a lot of times tho.
@@senchoumimikyuBigot alert 🚨
Borga looks like a cross between Dave Finlay & Brock Lesnar
I'd throw in a pinch of Heidenreich too, maybe.
@@TheLokiBiz Rapenreich
I can totally see the resemblance.
You mean Brock Lesner looks like him.
Fit Fascist XD
People may ask "where were you when Tatanka's streak was broken?" and you'll always answer "I don't know."
I was talking to a friend the other day about how Tanaka deserved better. He should've been IC champion, instead they spent all that time building him up and getting him over just to drop it all in a squash match with this clown. Who's time in the company was as brief as it was forgettable.
I know this is a joke but my genuine answer would be “at my grandparents’ house”.
@@jonpotter9510I was at my aunt's house
@comradecam9530 his time in the UFC was even shorter. Like maybe a minute. The announcers were making fun of him, saying did he realize he wasn't in the WWF anymore.
Or….
“What streak??”
This dude was like a Brock Lesner Prototype!
FWIW John Cena is actually The Prototype
maybe in looks, but to compare him to Lesnar is an insult. Look at Lesnar's matches in his first run...he was as powerful as anybody else but with the speed and agility of a cruiser weight, plus the fact that he had a technical pedigree to rival Kurt Angle.
At least Brock keeps himself to himself and keeps his mouth shut when it comes to politics.
@@NexusFantismonah
@@GCAbleism158 I wish the likes of Cornette, CM Punk, Mick Foley, and Batista would follow suit with Lesnar.
Anyone remember Eric Escobar? I'm pretty sure he was on Smackdown in 2009 or 2010. He was briefly Vicky Guerrero's on-screen boyfriend before they randomly tried to make him a face. Then he just disappeared. Seems like good fodder for this series.
Failed prototype Dolph Ziggler.
Damn, i havent heard that name in a long time.
I remember him, but I don't think he made either game
The particular way he emphasized his last name (“ESSSSSSSc-cobar”), always sticks with me, even if his in-ring work was forgettable.
I remember him. I actually liked his PRE-WWE main roster work. BEFORE Smackdown, he was the FCW heavyweight champion (which would be equal to being the NXT champion in modern times). Then the poor guy goes to Smackdown and becomes... Vicki Guerroro's boyfriend. Talk about a demotion. LMAO. From what I heard, some main roster road agent decided to be a bully towards him and sabotaged him (Vince would give instructions to the road agent to give to Escobar and the road agent would purposely tell Escobar the complete OPPOSITE thing, just to screw him over. By the time Escobar caught on, he was in hot water). After WWE, I think he went by the name Eric Perez and won every major championship in Puerto Rico (in BOTH of the major wrestling promotions in Puerto Rico).
Ludvig Borga sounds like a future Dark Side of the Ring episode.
Maybe a darker 30 minutes moves
"..stabbing Tatanka over a foot long kielbasa, stating.. "eet vas de last one, Ludvig deserve eet!"
Everyone calling him a racist, but it's hard to judge as I don't know any details.
Certainly Jim Ross calling him that means nothing, since JR was a liar and a racist himself.
As a wrestler he was impressive, and I loved how Ludwig destroyed The Rocker at Summerslam.
@@JLvatron he literally was a leader of a neo nazi gang in his homeland, dude went to prison for hate crimes. He became a drug addict and ran for political office. Check out his documentary
As bad as wrestling was in 93, it will always hold a special place in my heart as its the year I got into wrestling.
For me it was the year I got out ....then in 96 I got sucked back in
93 was bad?? I always considered the latter half of it pretty damn good!
@@owen800xl yeaaaa I dunno lol I guess it wasn't all bad but I just sort of lost interest
ofc because thats how you guys are, willing to ignore the bad when something entertains you so highly, thats what describes the wwe and the people that support it and watch
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 This comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Wrestling at any point of time in any company is a mix of good bad.
Damn that’s the most impressive Slap Nuts entry so far!
Fun fact: he was one of Jeremy Irons's heavies in Die Hard With A Vengeance just shortly after leaving WWE.
The only ones I remember are Targo and Katya.
Can you tell us a scene we would have seen him in?
The gold heist, the tunnel,or the boat escape?
@@wesleywarsmith1113 He must be almost impossible to spot. They were probably casting the heavies solely based on their appearance (looking either Northern or Eastern European).
When interviewed about the experience one time, he mainly spoke of how disgusting it was that Samuel L. Jackson was treated like a star by the crew.
@@wesleywarsmith1113He was disguised as a New York cop.
They missed out on calling his finisher the Finn-isher.
But did he ever randomly scream PERKELE! at people xD
The exit only tattoo is actually pretty funny.
Dude looks like a character in a 90s video game
You almost expect to see him in the Mad Gear Gang
He always reminded me of Zangeif from Street Fighter lol
The funniest shit about all this was how the WWF was trying to make us hate the evil Finns.
Most Americans couldn't find Finland on a map or be pressed to name one thing about the country. Nowadays it's a memetastic nation for it's abundance of saunas, rally cars, and complexity of Finnish, but ask a wrestling fan in 1993 if they knew anything about the nation that shelters much of Lapland and... *shrugs*
True it was weird to hear Finland mentioned so much on American tv . Like the two countries were massive rivals in 1990s 😂
The most Americans are stupid thing is getting kind of played out. Most Americans no where Finland is, Most Americans don't give a rats as about Finland just like most of the world doesn't give a damn about Finland.
Rusev was originally built as Russian because the average viewer probably has no idea what or where Bulgaria is. I wonder if Ludwig Borga should've been built from Sweden or Norway with a similar viking gimmick he had in NJPW and outside wrestling.
Why would we? The US is the most important country in history. What even is a Finland? 😂 🇺🇲 😂
Also for being the country with the most metal bands per habitant.
Ludwig Borga looks like Fit Finlay + Brock Lesnar combined together 😅
He looks like someone left a wax brock lesnar too close to a flame
They tried to push this guy so hard. Tatanka was never same after that streak ended
I've been rewatching RAW from the beginning and yeah, that loss ended his momentum and six months later he's reduced to just being a lacky for Ted Dibiase. It's sad, because he was at his peak and totally deserved to be a star at the time. He would've made a great IC champion.
According to Tatanka in a shoot he was suppose to get the IC title at WM9 but Shawn Michaels pulled some backstage shenanigans at the 11th hour.
Tatanka's win streak went...to this fucking clown?
That's a shame. I always liked Tatanka and should've had an IC run
@@charlesiofaustria7361 No surprise there with HBK, he could have easily have won it back a few months later at KOTR or Summerslam since they had him drop to Marty in May and then won it back before KOTR when Diesel debuted.
@@charlesiofaustria7361 Bret Hart also said this in his book and it wasn't until a year later when he and Undertaker told him.
Super entertaining dude, he was fun to watch.
A wild slapnuts appears! 😂 i swear i say that every time i see him on AEW
Fun fact. Borga was also in Die Hard with a Vengeance
Oh god i actually remember this guy and i heard JR legit hated this guy hes 100% erased from the wwe for clear reasons
He did mention that Borga was a miserable bully and not well liked backstage...nobody really missed him when he left WWE due to injuries.
There is no good reason to "erase" history. Plenty of vile wwe "superstars" still in the archives to watch.
@@RustieFawnthey erased Chris didn’t they? Ok then
@@RustieFawn Does Chris Benoit ring a bell?
@@RustieFawn You're not erasing history, you are just choosing not to show it or show the asshole in a good light be they fascist or murderer..... pity Snuka couldn't go to trial.
When I was watching WWF as a preteen during this time where Borga was on the Heel rise, I was legit scared of this guy Borga.
I literally thought that he was going to defeat Lex and Bret Hart, because he was being presented like a credible threat to the main event players.
I was worried if he was gonna be the Champion instead of Owen Hart. It would hurt Bret's spot. He could face Bret
Not sure if Jeff Hardy's alter ego, Willow, would qualify for Ring Of The Hawk, but it could be a Was It Any Good? episode.
Might be too short of a run unless he can pull footage from years and years ago lol
Cue the Jeff introspective bit!
Or Twitchweed
I will save everyone time and effort the answer is no
@@clifforddavidson7273fuck no* the answer is fuck no😂😂😂
A bit of a note, that final match was taped 10 days before the Rumble (1/12/94) so he was already gone when it aired. It's weird but sometimes they used to have stuff already taped for post-PPV episodes back then.
He got a ankle injury and it is a reason why he left.
Damn, slapnuts really is everywhere. No matter what promotion, show, decade, era that you review
He wrestled in Japan between 1990 and 1993 and had some VERY good tag team matches there.
I have to offer some level of respect to anyone who can look at Scott Norton and think to themselves "Yeah, I could kick his ass in a real fight."
This is the same guy that described Randy Couture as 'just a little smurf' and barely bothered training to fight him thinking he would just crush him.
I've seen some of his boxing matches. They weren't very good. They were after his wrestling career so maybe that explains it. He did lose to a black man so that makes me happy
Why do you respect stupid people specifically?
@@eltornadoAfmHe literally got into pro boxing because he was booing the fight between Larry Holmes and Oliver McCall. A local boxing promoter said if you can do better then why don't you fight on my card in the next few weeks, Halme accepted and won!
He was definitely a legit tough guy and did decent to win his country's title, even if Finland isn't exactly a boxing country Halme literally didn't train until he took that fight in America on a dare. Yes he did get beat by two black guys I believe with a much smaller and lankier guy knocking him out with one shot, he did also beat a few black guys himself.
There's a story about him saving a woman who a man was attempting to r@pe, Halme broke both of his arms and claimed he would have broke both of his legs if the police didn't come in time.
@@kevthegoat8774 👌👌
A good one for the Hawk: Dusty Rhodes on ECW at the Ring of the Hawk
Great idea!!
Also, this guy actually appeared in a New Japan game on the Super Famicom. I believe it was New Japan Pro-Wrestling: Fantastic Story in Tokyo Dome.
The whole Virgil run made Piper look like a terrible wrestling coach, I guess after the million dollar man feud Piper stopped training him
Yer Piper said so on a Superstars in Summer of 91 just before he came back to ring he said i know hes good enough now on his own.. Heres one tho Virgil 87-93 Million Dollar Title half that time Body Guard belongs in WWE HOF right? (I say Yes) But Matt Cardona All Tag titles IC & US title 2007-2019 and i'd say he dosn't thats how far the Midcard has fallen when a lower Midcard jobber to stars like Virgil (He beat jobbers) belongs and a Midcard IC Champ like Ryder dosnt!
Dude had the most non finnish name possible😂
They could had something close to his name that was Tony Halme
I think his real name Halme is also Swedish.
@@bazzatheblue thats actually finnish😄 if it would be halmesson then it would be swedish
Halme IS a Finnish name.
I always thought he was Russian when I was little
Lol that Jeff Jarrett/Pokemon gag will never get old😂
Man, Scott Norton is on a short list of people it might just be easier to lay down and die against than fight.
Mate, Borga battered Norton, in a shoot fight.
Norton is too overly muscled. If you go up against someone comparable with that much bulk on you it works against you not for you.
@@ChristopherJames1993 Good for him. I'm not taking my chances, no matter how drunk a guy who can bench triple digits is.
that was something I didn't know - Both of these were proper terrifying fuckers, that must have been a scene and a half
Not as scary as Norton's wife. She almost got him sent to a north korean gulag (true story)
I've been waiting for this for so long. As a Finn it's cool to see some light be shown on Borga, and good that his antics outside the ring were told as well, since he was an absolute prick from all accounts. Curiously he had an acting career, and probably the highlight is to see him in Die Hard With a Vengeance as one of the German thugs. Name Ludwig Borga annoys me, since it isn't that Finnish sounding, his real name Toni Halme could've worked.
yeah he was realy a nasty dude, I think pretty everytime you saw something in the news about him, it was something bad, I cant even rember anything good comming out what was about him
Have to admit that once I got used to Finnish names from playing FHM, I kinda got boggled about the ring name.
Did know the guy was a piece of work already at any rate.
I once saw him box on Eurosport and singing some weird rap dressed as a Viking on Eurotrash on channel 4 back in the early 2000s. he did the JOB at those also.
I was scrolling to see if anyone brought up his music career. One of the most surreal things I've come across. The song was probably Viikinki. Crazily the Quebecers also have a rap song too. Must of been something about that survivor series team....
@@owen800xl I watched the video to his song after this review last night!
@@owen800xl check out his rap song "Kuningas Voittamaton"
Borga would make for a good episode of dark side of the ring
Was thinking the same thing
At the start, that was genuinely one of the best fall away Samoan drops I have ever seen, lol. Shame he was a tool because he was fluid in the ring.
Was thinking the same thing, can see shades of Vader in his ring work.
Borga is quoted as saying “if a lesbian can be president of Finland and I can be a member of Parliament, anything seems possible.”
Their president was never a lesbian lol.
It was a famous rumor all around the news.Tarha Halonen, short, fat, redhead who founded movement called (this is a real name, i'm not making this up) "Rainbow people's rights party" + it was late 90s early 00s and she famously looked like Conan O Brien, they even met bacause of that.. So.. That's why.. Great president, hope she's doing well but that's what everyone was thinking about
Woman who people called Conan all around the world, got called a lesbian in that time.. shocking
There was popular joke at the time he said that. ”Tony halme called president tarja halonen lesbian and later apologized to tarja about it, if tarja would call tony gay she would have to apologize all the gay people”
A couple others you might be interested in is Issac yankem dds ( kane) or G.I Bro ( booker t) Both i'm sure are under thirty matches
I remember watching Borga as a kid, He was my favorite heel. He had a great look and he could have been world champion he was such a bad ass. Was really disappointed after SVRSRS 93 as I thought this man was going places. RIP he was a hell of a wrestler.
Totally agree.
I'm sorry but Everytime i look at him all i see is a prototype brock Lesnar
Maybe a perfect character for Dark side of the ring
Id like to see the fight between Borga & Scott Norton.
Check out his tag match against haku and earthquake in japan. Haku and earthquake basically beat him up for real in a ring. He had to flee from japan after that.
@@Hustlate link I cant find it .pretty please
@@Dr.Meth666 sadly neither can i. It is on documentary about him that aired earlier this year in finland. Fight agains scott norton was lackluster, tony halme (his real name) knocked him out with one suckerpunch.
@@Hustlate no fucking way . I gotta see this .Scott Norton was a force to be reckoned with
@@Dr.Meth666 so was tony, terrible human being with hard childhood and found an outlet for his difficult childhood. Strength sports, bodybuilding, drugs (both recreational and steroids) and fighting.
This guy went into the UFC & got smoked by Randy Coture
I hated this guy when I was a kid. I did always wonder what happened to him after he disappeared from wrestling.
I hate him more now as an adult.
I freaking love this guy
@@jipsumies3435 That sounds about right.
@@ReetinEntertainment I see things differed because after all the bs he is still a hero in my country and a rolemodel
@@jipsumies3435 lol, sure thing.
Really like to see Berlyn (Alex Wright) and his run on ROH. I think he had just under 30 matches with that gimmick.
he was over in europe with this gimick
I'd love to see Wright on this channel.
Wrestling Bios should do this episode as a special guest
@@Joshua-hf5uiBIG BRATWURST
he kept that WCW gimmick going? i thought it was hated
For a while they tryed to make wrestling popular in Sweden, it was when Ludvig Borga was wrestling. i really liked Borga, a legit tough guy.
Love that somehow slapnuts appears in a lot of videos outta nowhere lol
He's the Forrest Gump of wrestling 🤣🌭
Shame this man's life was so fucked. He was an INSANE athlete, and a pioneer in the wider world of mainstream combat sports for his country.
That's an insane amount of beef Scott is just throwing around like it was nothing.
Yea he was insanely strong
Big poppa fucking pump is the hook up
@@Dr.Meth666holla if ya hear me!!!!
Who are you kidding?scott was working his tail off to throw him around.
He was pretty solid in the ring and had a great character if he had a bit longer in wwe and didnt have the controversies he would be in the hall of fame
Why do I suspect that WWE's refusal to induct "controversial" (I hate that euphemism when we could just say "offensive" instead) people into their Hall of Fame stems not from true moral outrage, but from embarrassed backtracking?
@@SeasideDetective2 yeah but I'm saying if he had none of that he would be in
@@zackfrodsham1259 We could offer all kinds of arguments for why certain people should not be in WWE's Hall of Fame, but in the end it all comes down to public relations. Morality in both the political and corporate arenas is superficial and pragmatic, involving "apologizing" for and condemning actions long after they've occurred and have mostly been forgotten.
Vince wanted some REAL Life heels to play heels.
I was devastated when Tatanka lost his winning streak. However, for as little time as Ludvig Borga was in the WWF, he did create a lasting impression. So many midcard guys are there for years and you don't even notice when they're gone.
I find it interesting that no evidence of the alleged racism is presented here, and the audience is expected to accept those assertions as gospel. That which can be asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence.
You know, the Schutzstaffel tattoo is kind of a giveaway.
Wow Virgil gets a entrance 😂😂
People will pay a lot of money to see a guy they don't like to get knocked out. You give him an undefeated streak, people will keep buying tickets hoping they'll be there when it happens
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I'm all but convinced that political correctness has ruined storytelling. Villains are rarely allowed to be truly evil anymore, and as a result have been turned into jokes. Heaven forbid that we would look at supremacist characters from a nuanced perspective, or even sympathize with their feelings even as we condemn their actions. Because contrary to what popular culture depicts, racist/sexist/homophobic people are not just smug bullies, but often tormented and traumatized people, even seeing themselves as the true victims.
But even if we insist on depicting these characters as completely irredeemable and deserving of no sympathy, we still need to depict them as competent. I have no problem with a "monster heel" in wrestling being revealed to be a coward deep down, but he should never be a wimp. Too many heels in wrestling are made to look pathetic, as if their only reason for existing is to be laughed at or as if people would never respect the hero unless he cleaned every adversary's clock in record time. I want to see a return to the 1990s pro wrestling narratives - the ones in which the heels were true figures of terror and the babyfaces had to become a little heelish themselves in order to take them down.
@@SeasideDetective2 completely agree with you but the guy in question wasn’t telling a story. And agree a again about heels being wimps. If I was the bad guy in a real fight I would do some nasty things to the guy I’m feuding with. It’s just normal.
@@Markyd123 I struggle, however, with the idea that actors should be judged by their personal beliefs, or even conceptually annihilated when they perform actual misdeeds outside of the realm of entertainment. When watching an actor, we're supposed to temporarily abandon our belief that he's anything other than his character. And if the character himself is a villain, that should be merely a happy coincidence.
Even when the bad man is a professional wrestler, and thus to some extent portraying himself, I try to suspend disbelief. I don't think, for example, that it's hypocritical to continue to think of Chris Benoit as a great hero. If he'd been committing murders the whole time and thus living a lie it would be one thing, but he was not a murderer when he was at the height of his popularity and he never planned on becoming one. Can't we at least remember that he USED to be a good guy?
I think you want to return to a time when your brain was more smooth. 1990s wrestling 'narratives' were not what you seem to remember. It might have just been that you were a child and perceived them as such. Myself and many people I know have an opposite impression. Wrestling was at an all-time high of cartoony goofy characters in the early 90's. The Undertaker is great but my god he was presented in a way that screams 'this is all fake and is for small children'@@SeasideDetective2
The fact that he and Luger only met for the first time in a Survivor Series tells us they were going to wait until Mania for the blow off.
Absolutely insane.
They banked way too much on this guy.
My favourite short run in all of wrestling. This character absolutely captivated me as a kid, the dangerous and arrogant aura he gave off I think was unrivalled in wrestling until at least Brock came 9 years later. A big 'what if' for me as the injury (along with all the other things) halted WWF's big plans for him. Having no clue what he got up to I spent the 90s hoping for a return. Despite who he was as a person I will always love this character presentation and the excitement as a kid I had for where this character was going (which ended up being nowhere).
I have every single match he had after WWE on my channel + most of his boxing stuffs
@@jipsumies3435 legendary Finland channel you got there with them top uploads subbed
@@hermanthetosser4219 Wow! Thank you🔥🔥🥊🥺
Its good to go back to the golden years of wrestling every now and then to do some ring of the hawk
Pretty ironic WWF had a wrestler with the last name Roid 😹
A few Ring of the Hawk suggestions.
Eddie Guerrero in ECW
Johnny The Bull in WCW
Alan Funk in WCW
'As the juice pours out of his roid holes.' lol
8:34 “The crowd are really into this one.”
(Bored bloke on the right trying to keep attention)
definitely agree about the throw into the punch never seen that before. Definitely hope a big guy uses that it's a good set up into a finisher move
I think Agogo(or how to spell?) In AEW did this move
@@The80sWolf_It’s similar but different, his is a flapjack leading to the punch while Ogogo’s is a popup leading to the pinch since he can’t be bithered to actually learn to do it properly
The mid air delay the steiner's were able to get on those suplexes were a thing of beauty
there's no denying that there is nothing wrong with an "exit only" lifestyle.
It did make me laugh that he’d go so far to have that as a tattoo 😂
@@Markyd123 yeah for real 🤣
Maybe a t-shirt, but a tattoo?? Nah.
@@Markyd123 There were people in my hometown who had the same type of tattoos. lol
my older brother used to give me those rib punches that Borga would throw
lol damn that's crazy. I remember Borga. I was only about 8 and I remember thinking he was a scary bad guy and I understood the intensity in the character. Crazy how we're all at one point just kids watching this magical world of pretend and good and bad guy giants. You never really actually know who these people are in real life lol smh.
As one of the few Nordic wrestling fans out there, we really don't send our best.
Virgin Ludwig Borga vs Chad Tor Johnson
The singer of sabaton would look cool in a ring
Implying Finland is Nordic
@@JarJarBinks4ever Finland is a Nordic country, but not scandinavian. Only Norway Sweden and Denmark is scandinavian.
How is Double J always there? It's uncanny
It's a running joke.
@@pigs18 no way!
10:40 WWE didn't use tap-outs until 1997 I believe. The wrestler had to verbally submit.
As a Fin, it REALLY upsets me that he's the only Fin in WWF/E history
What about Finn Balor?
@@danielstack4158this is funny👆
@@danielstack4158 He's from Ireland
@@christiankallio8586dude literally thought you meant Fin as a name 😂
@@danielstack4158he means Finnish as in from Finland 😂
The WWF run of Ludvig the Fin
Smack yourself every time he wins
Will I have to Smack myself with a Grin when the Fin gets a Win?
@@aperson5215 It would be a Sin not to Smack yourself with a Grin every time the Fin gets a Win, especially if it's via Pin, in which case you have to throw yourself in the Bin
@@chocobros1 I would rather have a twin to throw in the bin every win via pin so I am able drink some gin while slapping myself with a Grin during the Fins wins even if The Fin also deserves the Bin
@@aperson5215 but your twin is your kin and it's a sin to throw your kin in a bin, even if it lets you drink gin out of the tin until you spin with a grin on your chin instead of being binned every time the fin gets a win with a pin.
@@chocobros1 Even if the twin was my kin I'd still throw them in the bin so I can spin my chin in an inn everytime the Fin gets a win via pin in the Ring
As an 11 year old kid he def had my attention much like Lesner. He was definitely Scary!!! He’s probably not the only one from Europe
ludwig throwing opponents in the air then give them a punch was the coolest move ,until years later cesaro was doing the same but with uppercut during his wwe days and taking that move with him to AEW
As a bisexual weirdo, I absolutely hate Ludwig Borga as a person - but even I have to admit, I was surprised by how decent he was in the ring. Still though, he's been "Chris Benoit"ed in my mind.
Here in the netherlands they showed a lot of new japan pro wrestling in the 90s on eurosport and borga/tony halme was a huge star there. The dutch announcer would always claim he was swedish though. Lol
Nova has said that Borga knocked him out early in the match (a clothesline i think) and he was loopy for the rest of it.
Ludwig Borga was an OK wrestler....... it's like saying Bill Cosby was a funny comedian.... true, but weird to say.
Tatanka was massively over around this time.
Tony Halme broke his back before his untimed end of his WWE career.
I'm confused cuz you always hear about the ankle-injury, but he himself said that he broke his back in a match with Razor Ramon when they slipped while trying to do Razor's Edge off the top rope
Both. Back was the main reason but it only got worse over the years. Angle took him out for 6mouths also
Can you find this match with Razor anywhere?@@jipsumies3435
Damn bro, I can't imagine the amount of time you must spend researching, watching, and putting together these videos.... Fantastic work. Thought you deserve that at the very least.
Thanks Matthew means a lot bro it’s not always easy.
This guy is basically what Lars Sullivan woulda been if he didnt get in trouble lol
Tbf Lars Sullivan is a far less bad dude than Ludwig Borga
Tony Halme/Borga wasn't a fascist. He was one of those people who let their wrestling persona get mixed in to their real persona. He was an unapologetic agitator, a taunter and a thug. That all roots to his childhood and him deciding to "make it" and become stronger than his enemies and haters and he lived and breathed that mentality until he died.
He had a comedic tv show where he went to a psychic and the psychic told him he senses a strong feminine side to him. Well anyway, you could say that's the side of him he tried to protect by building and overly brutal body and personality around it, the victim he used to be. He also had a south american black girlfriend at one point.
Virgil was basically a glorified jobber lol
Ludwig does look like Brock Lesner.
Man, Jeff Jarrett must have a Lazerus pit, it seems he's been wrestling for like 100 years!
The Quebecers! Everytime they were sent out as foreign heels, what were the guys thinking? "Aah the French! Those age old enemies of the American nation." 😂
tony halme put out a music album that was pretty decent
I miss him.
Ngl never knew supernova (ECW) was on WWF before ECW pretty crazy ngl
I dont care about anyones politics
I think Borga was fairly underrated and maybe a few years ahead of his time ie brock lesnar. He wasnt lacking in charisma, solid brawling thug. He was so high impact and clean....and foreign...i dont think fans knew what to make of him. The sympathy for Tatanka taking his first loss overshadowed the fact that Borga achieved the victory. He wasnt bad
This is deeper then politics LMAO
It isn't politics. It's supporting the holocaust. Way, way different, chud.
@@freakyzed8467 Who said he supported
@@freakyzed8467wooden doors
Shout-out for party-Marty's sellin' in that match. So underrated old Marty.
Love the content bro'.
Whenever you see a Borga type in this time period, its just a matter of how far you get before a Virgil mini-squash.
Was really thrown by a Slapnuts appearance in a gaming ad this week, but that guy is everywhere.
You didn't mention his role in the fist of the north star live action movie.
HAWK, I would love for you to do a video featuring Scott Steiner promos (and giving your thoughts on them), especially shoot promos. He really ripped Flair a new one on his promos while putting the rival company over.
Ludvig looks like he ate Glacier
Finally, the episode I've been waiting for.
Seriously, I've requested it several times despite being a broke ass jabroni.
The Hawk did the J O B for free then for you.
Scott Steiner: "HE'S FIN!!" 😁
I made two part documentary about his career and life, did you use it as a source or did you just read stuff online? I'm just curious, nice video, many Americans make a lot of mistakes in Borga videos. You only had one mistake i noticed. Amateur boxing career. There was no amateur run