THAR Vs Gurkha In Spiti | This Video Will Open Your Eyes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มี.ค. 2022
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Thar vs Gurkha Suspension Setup
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Thar for Amateur off roaders.
Gurkha for Hardcore Expert off roaders.
Anyone can drive a Thar off road
If you are trained on off road, take the Gurkha to extreme off road where Thar might fail.
*Being An Indian, I always feel proud about both M&M and FM for providing cars of the calibre of Gurkha and Thar within the very handy budget of 20 lakhs!! You never get such car from any foreign manufacturers at this price!! These two are not direct alternate to one another but both are very capable cars and good in their own way!* ❤️❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳
Yes boss. But THAR waitinf period is long
I have owned two Thar CRDEs in the past. One was 2015 model and another was 2018 model. When new Thar Diesel came out I was so excited! It had more power than earlier Thar and definitely looked better and had become more creature friendly and feature rich. In my earlier Thars I used to zip and dash and go about with impunity thanks to great visibility due to thin A pillars. The steering was nimble and was decently powered. I sold my second Thar and ended up buying Gurkha! Let me tell you the reason:
1. My off-roading time in my earlier Thar was very limited and mostly it was highway and in city drives.
2. I did light to medium off roading and bad road touring. Very limited hardcore off roading.
3. My family members were always challenged in sitting and comfort.
So when it came time to decide I factored:
1. Availability of vehicle quickly (did not want to wait, Force Motors got me Karnataka's first black Gurkha in 7 days flat!!!)
2. Seating for my family members i.e. old parents (Thar cannot provide that comfort)
3. Will I always be driving at 120 or 125 on highways? Or, will I always use that much amount of power to race ahead of others? (No, I cannot be a stud or cheeta or whatever any longer)
4. I can always lift and upgrade tyres to gain more ground clearance and off road abilities but I cannot fit a metal hard top or increase space.
5. Force Motors treats me like a king! Mahindra won't. In my recent 3000 km drive whenever I had issues I talked directly at headquarters and was promptly guided by that state's regional managers.
6. Khivraj Motor's Sales Manager Rajan has been in touch with me for last 4 years ever since I test drove Gurkha Extreme. I couldnt buy that beauty then because I had just bought Thar and did not have money. In all these years he has acted more like an acquaintance than someone trying to push sale on me.
7. The driving comfort both on and off road is better in Gurkha. On broken highway I was sailing easily while Innova / Fortuners were slowing down or getting badly shaken up.
8. I am ok to build my pace gradually on highways than pedal to metal. (I have used Dieseltronics as a backup for when needed on highways)
9. Lets try something different and maybe manual diff locks will bring a new skill in me.
A lot of people over here are commenting about off road and abilities as if they are big time specialists. There are many other aspects also that need to be kept in mind. Many here will never do any off road or will do mild off road. In that condition Gurkha's plus points will start to matter.
As a Gurkha owner I biased my answer towards Gurkha.... similarly I could have done so for Thar as well. After all I have driven 1 lakh KMs or so on CRDE Thar with open flaps / aching shoulders / dusty interiors / angry parents and girl friends!!! Lol
Well thought points for your use cases. Good that non thar vechiles are also supported.
I agree with you. Gurkha is more value for money. Gurkha is much spacious with aesthetic and functional novelty of snorkel, heighten road dominance, comfortable and easy ingress/egress. 2022 model looks awesome.
Bro just one down point of Gurkha is it's underpowered Engine
Seriously it does no justice to Gurkha
I mean they have increased the engine size from 2.2 to 2.6 bt reduced the powerfrom 140 to 90 !!!!!
I mean at my hometown i do have one Gurkha of previous versions the engine was lit
They cud have given the same engine even Thar have 140 hp
Okay power apart even the Torque is reduced 😐
all over the point i has seen gorkha is the best car ...am i right ?
❤️ Gurkha ❤️
One thing to be understood is that Thar has auto diff locks, so in any obstacle, you get through, which is not the case in Gurkha, where you have to manually engage the diff locks giving more control to the driver. Hence it is not comparing apples to apples. I think more than the car, it's about the driver!!
It's a Brake locking Differential (BLD) which is electronically controlled, it functions on its own will. Works pretty fine in most scenarios. In Gurkha the diffs are mechanical so one can engage and disengage them when he wishes to.
It is always about the driver.
@@officialjishanali bjuuo
Dude that's BLD(brake locking differential) and it's just a stupid fancy term for the Thar's TC. The mechanical diff lock locks the 2 wheels of each diff constantly which is far more superior.
@@Countrysideboy247 true
Bro you should watch Prashant bhai's vlog and how he handles the Gurkha in extreme spiti expedition, new thar is not meant for extreme cold and off road, i prefer Gurkha more than thar.
In wheel articulation the Thar is definitely better due to more suspension flex. But the Gurkha can overcome that by using any of the diff locks.
99% of usage will be on roads and uneven trails where the better suspension setup of the Gurkha will shine through. That said both are good Indian vehicles.
You get some and lose some. Both vehicles have their own strengths and are very different. Actually a good thing.
@@DCVExpeditions i agree completely!
@@DCVExpeditions bhai
Yaar
Mara pass 800 aur gupsy ha
Vo to bahut mast Off-roading karti ha
Seems like once I need to burst the bubble of people talking about 800 and offroading in same sentence. Gypsy relies on momentum and is not good in technical obstacles, it passes obstacles with speed mostly.
Performance mai gurukha ne thar ko pull kar diya tha. Thar ek bhi round nahi jeeti. I
Here is an appreciation you deserve :- You are one of the very very few motor vloggers who actually gives practical and usable insights along with breathtaking landscapes. What I like best is how you give a crystal clear comparison of features as they are, what they do, and why is it so; without over critiquing or having a bias towards a brand or a vehicle. I appreciate your composure and to the point content. It is seen in the way you have shown the two vehicles for what they are and how they work differently in different situations. Thank god for we have you, apart from the "Jaisa ki aap dekh sakte hain..." Vloggers. Keep up the good work, Godspeed.
Bruh! He was very clear & honest in all videos i guess ! Something is wrong he is telling its wrong regardless of the brand! Isn’t it
@ashutosh Raina liked the part “jaisa ka aap dekh sakte hain “ 🤣
yes there is articulation more in thar but you skip auto diff lock it will engage automatically thats why thar goes well but if you apply diff lock in gurkha before obstacles there is no differences and comparison.
This is what i also feel
Exactly what the reality is .
Absolutely right. Where the Thar does it automatically, you have to manually engage the differential lock in the Gurkha.
Well Said
Wooow! Seriously DCV - mahindra & force R&D should hire people who is adventurous like u to drive there machines before they launch it to the market ! Wht an amazing content brov! Neat ,clear & honest explanations! Also i request u to come to south india also to hit the green mountains! Tnks DCV-
Well explained... Thanks Dinesh Bhai..
Both vehicles have their own capabilities.. no confusion 👍👍
It's all about knowing the machinery and mechanism of ur vehicle... Plus ur own driving skills, here I m seeing that, Dinesh is providing all the pros and cons of both vehicles on different terrains. In some places automatic differential locks are good and vice versa.
I think Thar has got the looks and meant for light off-roading, Gurkha on the other hand is not that good looking but a very capable off-roader, better in fact.
Then it all boils down to the capability of the driver.
Haha lol
I stan contents like this. No cringey suspense and long useless talks but quick and informative insights like this one👍
gurkha ke manual diff lock ka koi tode nahi thar extreme me atak jayegi lekin gurkha kamARTICULATION hone ke baad bhi nikal jayegi, GURKHA is on another level.
Absolutely right ❤️💪 bro Gurkha ❤️
Gurkha ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Bhai mld ki bejjati😡😡
Gourkha made path , thar just walked on that path 🤣
So basically Thar has Auto differential locking and Gurkha has Manual
hi DCV Expeditions. If you could provide mileage of your Gurkha on different conditions(city/highway/hills etc), it would be of great help. Thanks in advance
My Gurkha gives between 9 to 13
@@SHIVAMSHARMA10 13 highway, 9 city
@@acurioussoul9840 yes
Will Love to see you on an international trip on your Thar or Gurkha, you can start from neighbouring countries. 👍
Nice observations shared. Thanks. Would like to see how Thar and Ghurkha behave in slushes and sand dunes.
Hi Dinesh, it is after watching your videos on Thar, I stuck with my decision and bought a Thar Petrol ( did not wanted the headache of a DPF ). I have driven it 5500 kms in the past 2 months of ownership and loving every part of it. While in Solang valley, they have a parking for 4x4 vehicles and my Thar had no issues and got to use 4H and 4L both. The strange this is that a Fortuner 2021 4x4 got stuck and I was thinking that it would be easy to take on the obstacle but sometimes weight also plays a down part and then it has a long wheelbase too.
This is the best comparison you have done and I am sure there is more to come. There are spots where Thar is unbeatable and some spots where Gurkha holds it ground really well but all in all, both are very capable vehicles. It is not possible to get the best of both the worlds.
Dear Sir very good trip spiti(HP)and nice video continues all the best thanks plz reply.
from:Anilkumar/Hunnykumar Delhi.
I feel fully loaded Thar fully occupied passengers and Gurkha will perform differently. With full load the suspension of thar can be damaged. If possible please solve this query also.
Nice video ...
Thar has better wheel articulation than Gurkha. No doubt and one thing more I am noticing that the rubber strips of the front door Gurkha are torning out or something @7:10
Kya baat Hai bhai Ji .Hur ak thought process ko aise clear na kisi ne kiya our na koi kar sakta hai.
Hey there!
I love your work... I just wanted to ask if the beading on the door is coming loose @7:09 sec?
rubber h shyad
Yes bruh
Very well explained, keep up the good work going ❤️
Bhai saab ; Pure quality content 🔥
From expedition to education, we're getting it all on this channel. Very, very good content bro!
Education? When?
@@acurioussoul9840 It's relative from person to person, good enough for the uninitiated ones like me.
@@ishanbhatvlogs oh
Doesn't matter what's under a hood. Only thing matters who's behind the wheel😎
Manual Diff lock is very different concept and it involves less sensors compare to auto diff locks. It's like driving automatic car compare to manual transmission car. Car does everything for you. No offense on anyone's skills or technical skills. But you learn more about off roading in manual diff lock suvs. You have to take different approach when you do it in MDL suv. Because up to certain level your driving skills will come in help in tricky conditions. Those skill you will able to improve in MDL suv.
Its more to do with suspension travel in this video rather than capabilities of diff locks. Jeep Wrangler is a perfect combination of both. Very good suspension articulation and manual diff locks. When the suspension travel is good, you reduce the usage of diff locks a lot. But the good, bad road handling at high speed is what I think is the strength of Gurkha, which it will lose if it gets a suspension with higher travel and softer spring rate.
@@DCVExpeditions i think all the the time in your video it was "how easy Thar came through obstacles". Not because of suspension articulation because of automatically operated diff locks. Which you mentioned also in video " kaise zhataka de ke bahar nikalti hai".
@@scorpio9156 if all the four Tyre touch the ground with better articulation then no MLD is required. In case of Gurkha it has poor articulation so only 2 tyres touching the ground differential will slip and car will be stuck unless you use diff locks
"The suspension takes the tires to the ground and then if needed the auto locks helps it out". We listen what we want to.
@@DCVExpeditions in this video from 5:12 to 6:01 did Thar locked it's diff lock or not? If yes then why it happened?
Thar has more articulation but still auto diff lock got activated. So it is not about the suspension but little toy call auto diff locks.
Please give a feedback to force motors about its low ground clearance. Ground clearance should be improved. Force Kargo king ground clearance is 239 mm. Where as the hardcore off roader has only 205 mm.
Really nice informative video. Great work DCV.
CV joints on the gurkha will last longer than the thar's because of it's limited suspension travel.
That's why solid axle is the best
@7:09 @DCV door beading from top center has came out...its an old quality issue with force vehicle...since you got a new ,u must give this feedback to force ...rest im watching ur videos...and enjoying it 👍
They will get to know a lot more than just beading.
Your videos deserve a lot more views and subscribers. You give such a great knowledge to everyone
You made my day. We knew it all along but could never prove.
10.57 the articulation is so good in thar , loved that shot sir,
Sir what ever u describing is the real features and functioning of particular car. Baki agency pr wo to c...kat te hai bs 🙏. Lots of love for you. 🙏
Awesome, scientific comparison. No scope of emotional logic. Waiting for more. Jai Hind...
Competition over after gurkha comes into the race😍
I think the engine with smaller displacement and hence smaller power figures & extreme kerb weight are the villains in the case of gurkha
Bro apki knowledge and experience gazab👌
A noob question. Would Ironman or Oldman Emu shockers help in articulation / suspension travel ?
As always top quality content ..
I own a scorpio s11 4wd and wanna try my beast in these conditions..but to my bad luck i just have river beds around me n im done off roading along the river beds..but yes you guys should visit sandakphu in west bengal it is worth a drive..... n im proud i have successfully conquered it in my scorpio s 11 4 wd
I always love to watch your videos bahi you're amazing. Love you from pakistan
We want more..off roading comparison between these two
Probably the best comparison between thar and gurkha... Very nicely explained.. great content..
1st viewer love from up sir
Sir ek suggestion.he
Pls aap apna route map ke through share kiya Kare video me.
Taki koi jana chahe waha to easy lage...
Nice sir ji 😍😍
Which camera do you use for vlogging......
Bhai. Thar ka suspension upgrade ka review kab ayega. I'm waiting for your feedback. I always thought Gurkha is much superior off-roader thanks for clearing the confusion. Have Safe trip.
Good morning bhaiya 🌅
Bhai itne Auche se kisi ne samjhaya In car ke baare mai.. Itna to Mahindra and Force bhi Auche se explain nhi kr skti thi.. Isse har kisi ko exact samajh Mai ayega.. Which car suit their purpose Better.. Just one thing also agr aap is trip ka Thar petrol vs diesel budget Aur compare krdo to maza ajayga
Bhai sahab... Real Wheel of Thar floating in Air looks like Toy... Looks so cool 😃
Bhai clr btao one line m off roading k liy kon c best h
Bhai which camera do you use?
Dinesh Bhai the petrol vehicle which gave 9-10 average was automatic or manual ?
well explained.. good 1
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articulation kya hota H sir bataye plzz
Very well explained.
Dono ke apne apne pros and cons hain but baat to ye hai ki dono apni jegeh best hain love both vehicles dono ke apne alag hi nashe hain congrats to both mahindra and force motors for producing such crazy extreme off-roaders to Indian market
And bhai aaj to bol hi diya maine ki you are one of the real content king 👑 hats off for your efforts 🙏🙏🙏
Thars k cons btana ??
@ 7:09 the door window rubber is already loosen . Indian made cars will always have these small issues..
Bro articulation ko diff lock se shi kr skte ho. But bohot jagah that ki articulation bhi shi nhi kaam karegi waha manually locking diff better hogi na ?
Points prove karneka satisfaction bhai next level hota h with proof 🧾
Because in Thar its Automatic & and in Gurkha you have to do it manually 👍
N when u put manually then there is no stopping for gurkha aaur wahi pe that maar kha jata hai.
Good Information ❣️
Wow bro, this is crazy difference.
Thanks for making Genuine video 📹 ❤
The reason why Gurkha pulls Thar in Tug of War because of the big engine low end power and torque and Manual Locking Differentials that help Gurkha. If Thar also had these raw off-road features then it would have been also great but i think now Gurkha is the only car which can pull Pajero in Tug Of War.
Was waiting eagerly for ur video sir! You gave us a clear picture . i am also waiting for the extreme cold start of Gurkha . Btw big fan from Himachal
For sure gurkha will score there !
Finaalyy❤️❤️🔥🔥
Do you think that Tyre size also played a role in this?
Obviously
7:09 is that the body bidding coming off the body over DCV's head? That's the quality Force needs to improve!
How many times did you use that word- 'articulation'? 😍😍😍😍!!
But I think that is auto diff lock what actually works in favour of Thar at many places.
gajab sir
Great video..brother
Selling India's own vehicles as Mahindera should be easy with the population of 1.3 billions. I have seen a few years back on the road in Malaysia. Impressive.
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Love your content ❤️
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"Cars dont make the driver"- Dominic Torreto
Thar gurkha se kahi ziada refine car hai,,, force ki cars to jugad hi hoti hai
Sir aap Gurkha le rahe the tab to bahut dukh ho gaya tha kyuki me already thar book kiya huwa hai last September me. But video dekh k abhi kuch hu. Mujhe thar lena bhari nahi parega.. Thar is the
best. Aapka video hamesha dekhta hu. Hope to join u this year end with my New Thar. Love from Assam
Please try tata safari 4x4 any of 20 years model.that have all capabilities in one.with limited slip differential.and many more.
Bhaiya maruti gypsy 4X4 aur bolero 4X4 pickup ke sath Thar4X4 ki comparison karo offroading me
could you also compare sway bar setup between thar and gurkha in one of your videos please? is the articulation of the gurkha limited by their sway bar setup?
It is setup like that to control body roll and swaying.
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@12:00 red alto flying by :-)
kya gajab ki knowledge dete ho bhai
bro try to make more offroad videos with gurkha
You really make good videos ....But the best part was that Alto passing behind like boss
This is the biggest misconception among people who don't travel in these regions. Alto is common bcz its cheap, small and petrol. It gets stuck so easily even with local drivers.
@@DCVExpeditions so true .....And it's light too....Which help it to get out of such situations
How to improve articulations of Gurkha is there any solution.
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