Midland Mainline Review (remade) ~ Train Sim World 4

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
  • Screw Rivet Games and their ridiculous Bernina Line DLC! Instead, I'm going to talk about something that's actually worth my time.
    This is my updated review on the Midland Mainline - Leicester to Derby and Nottingham add-on (made by Skyhook Games). It was originally released in April 2023, and has already gone through two major updates. The route itself is in a Y-shape with a total length of only a measly 37 miles, and it only includes the East Midlands Trains Class 158 and Class 43 HST (aka Intercity 125). There's a few other problems besides the lack of motive power.

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  • @monoonyx
    @monoonyx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    One thing that I think Dovetail really should look into is linking parts of DLC together, this is something that should've been immediately apparent when East Coastway was released and it for whatever reason wasn't and still isn't connected to the Brighton Mainline DLC, with an additional bit of track connecting Lewes and Wivelsfield. Same could and should be done here connecting Nottingham and Grantham linking the MML and ECML, with 158s running from Derby to Peterborough. I would say at no extra cost but we all know if it does happen we'll have to pay.

    • @claimediraq9715
      @claimediraq9715 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They say it’s due to a memory limitation, routes can apparently only be so long/include so many services before running into memory issues. Whether that’s true or just an excuse is another question.

    • @AB-mw8oz
      @AB-mw8oz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@claimediraq9715 That's undoubtedly true for the Xbox One and PS4 consoles. And unfortunately they make routes for those consoles, despite the fact PC can run significantly more and the Series X/PS5 could do far, far more than the last gen consoles.
      The last gen consoles are seriously holding back the game (along with general laziness from the devs)

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Another challenge is the timetable situation. You have to support multiple different timetables. Merging 2 routes requires 3 separate timetables. Merging 3 requires 6 to maintain which eventually becomes unsustainable.

    • @AnAutisticGamer
      @AnAutisticGamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparently it’s got something to do with its game engines, about how the bigger the route the more unstable it becomes when making it or something along those lines, so while it’s possible to make big networks TSC, right now it’s very unlikely to do the same in TSW4

    • @Atrail_Mckinley4786
      @Atrail_Mckinley4786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@claimediraq9715I find that hard to believe. DTG can just optimize the route.

  • @bulleid_productions
    @bulleid_productions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Alright, fair play and credit to Skyhook. This route is obviously based in around 2017-2018, and certainly isn't later than mid-2019, as that was when the East Midlands Trains company went defunct and was replaced by East Midlands Railway. However, at least with this, they have gone back and updated a previous route, to make it as realistic to the time period as possible, rather than just following their status quo and releasing god awful 'gaMePlaY pACkS' which are just payware reskins.

    • @bulleid_productions
      @bulleid_productions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do however completely agree with the fact that there is no decent HST run on this route, as it is far too short. GWE has the same problem, so the HST just ends up being an AI layer for routes such as West Somerset Railway (for the GWE HST), East Coast Main Line and Southeastern High Speed, specifically at St Pancras

  • @supersprinter1564
    @supersprinter1564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I live on this route and its so unrealistic its un playable

  • @jamesnicolson6833
    @jamesnicolson6833 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think if they are going to release a UK route they need a Niddertalbahn style slow speed scenery route. I’d take a look at my local route the Esk Valley Line from Middlesbrough to Whitby which would include a Class 156 and 158 in Northern livery

  • @JoeK25301
    @JoeK25301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With this DLC, it should have been longer in distance and they should have included the Manton Branch Line to Kettering, via Corby and having a route that can kill 'two birds with one stone'. I believe the developer should have included the Class 222 with the Class 43 and 158.

  • @TB76Returns
    @TB76Returns 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is certainly improved, I will admit, but it really could do with the 156 and 222, I agree. Props to Skyhook for actually showing some love for this route...

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only Dovetail could do the same for their routes.

    • @TB76Returns
      @TB76Returns 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC4260Productions I concur

  • @Trainspottinkid
    @Trainspottinkid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still waiting for a class 222 meridian I love those

  • @holytrucker2153
    @holytrucker2153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    love hearing you moan about dovetail

  • @Gideonsmythe
    @Gideonsmythe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To answer your question, the only preserved "Peak" authorised for mainline running is 45118.

  • @rageplayer20
    @rageplayer20 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I normally don't correct pronunciation, but you mispronounced my home city, lol.
    It's pronounced 'lesta'
    Nevermind, you pronounced it properly after the 1st few ones lol

    • @oo0Spyder0oo
      @oo0Spyder0oo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well he’s from NZ so why would you expect him to not speak in his own accent? Six sounds like sex and sex sounds like six, just accept people from different countries pronounce words differently.

  • @IDKovers
    @IDKovers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a soft spot in my heart for East Midlands Parkway, having used it in many a travel assignment

  • @DoctorDelorian
    @DoctorDelorian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looking forward to your "Rivet Rant" when you do finally get round to doing the Berninalinie DLC.

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm afraid I won't be making a dedicated video on that add-on. It's just not worth my time, nor is it even close to being worth $56.99 (NZD). But I do want to make an updated Rivet rant in general, making focusing on the RG add-ons I've actually got.

  • @LincolnshireTrainSpotter225
    @LincolnshireTrainSpotter225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In free roam i was able to drive a light loco through to Toton, theres buggy scenery, a huge white box covering lots of track and buggy signals and points/junctions. Very unusal section of the route to explore, I recommend it if possible on PC

  • @MidlandMainlineMadnessandmore
    @MidlandMainlineMadnessandmore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speaking about the heritage railway there is also the section from ruddington to Loughborough

  • @danimonte7088
    @danimonte7088 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im not from the UK so correct me if im wrong, but arent Class 66's like everywhere, same thing for EWS?

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Class 66 is very common, yes (480 of them were built between 1998 and 2015), but there are still a lot more freight engines in the country (e.g. Classes 57, 59, 60, 67, 68, 70 and 88). DTG have resold that same old EWS Class 66 about five or six times now, and there's so many more variants that the now-outdated EWS, which is now called DB Cargo UK (I believe). If they're just going to keep rehashing the 66, the least they could do is add a new livery every once in a while.

    • @danimonte7088
      @danimonte7088 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC4260Productions yeaj true, man is love hsving a 58 or a 60 running around

    • @AnAutisticGamer
      @AnAutisticGamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC4260Productionsthey probably only use the EWS livery cause they don’t have permission to use the other company liveries the 66 is used is, EWS is easy cause they technically don’t exist anymore.

    • @samhartnett8700
      @samhartnett8700 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AnAutisticGamerWell, they could just make an EWS Class 60 or something

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@samhartnett8700 skyhook have shown interest in creating a class 60 for midland mainline. Adam mentioned he was going to write a proposal for it

  • @nathanhughes248
    @nathanhughes248 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was,a issue when playing one of the 158 services where it spawns you at a random station on foot

  • @narskip
    @narskip 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really do love these. it's about the thing i look forward to in this franchise anymore :/

  • @ElmtreeLine
    @ElmtreeLine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My gripe with the route is that it should have included the north section up to Sheffield, its just too short for a decent HST run.

  • @AhmearClayIombo-dj6di
    @AhmearClayIombo-dj6di 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice

  • @DXR8007NZR
    @DXR8007NZR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, now they need the NZR Midland Mainline 😂

  • @NHZS
    @NHZS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2 surviving parts of the GCR are currently being rejoined using donations from the public to create the uks longest preserved mainline heritage railway, you should take a look online it really is quite a project.

    • @supersprinter1564
      @supersprinter1564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't see how it's going to work as the nottingham section is single track and the station needs to be reversed to get in to the station basically meaning no 2 trains on the nottingham section at any given time

  • @RandomUsername3040
    @RandomUsername3040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gameplaypack i'm not buying it £9.99 is too much but still Good review

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah don't buy it

  • @loganmorritt194
    @loganmorritt194 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would u say 21 quid is a reasonable price for this

  • @joshuamorriss6782
    @joshuamorriss6782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Id like to see the Nottingham to chesterfield via alfreton

  • @JillValentineLF
    @JillValentineLF 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish they added the class 221 cross country. They should also add the WCM Avanti west coast from Preston to Crewe. Which would be cool.

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't mind seeing an Avanti 390 in the game (since it could also be used as Ai on the WCML tracks seen from the Bakerloo Line), but my preferred section of the WCML is Preston to Carlisle plus the Morecambe and Windermere branches.

    • @JillValentineLF
      @JillValentineLF 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DC4260Productions I agree but I think Dovetail are a little tight with them long type routes, but I wish.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't think it would. From tsc, the license expired and dtg had to remove the content. Of course don't know much details but if it wasn't able to be renewed, then the chances of it coming are probably low

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If the Avanti license did expire, then it's bizarre seeing the WCML South route still for sale on Steam, unless you're just referring to DTG removing the Avanti logo from the Livery Designer.

    • @intercity234
      @intercity234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the class 222 would be better for this route as the class 221 only operates at Derby on this route wheras the 222 can be seen throughout the MML. Agree with you on the WCML escpiaclly since Preston has allready been modeled for the Blackpool to Ormskirk route. Although I think I'd perfer the northen section over shap.

  • @esteban_pnc
    @esteban_pnc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job !

  • @Grumpy_Englishman
    @Grumpy_Englishman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is worse than dtg the dtg ambassadors

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even though they market the game, they aren't saying the game is perfect. I've watched lives and videos of them discussing what they don't like and any bugs. Some even think that the price of some dlc is too high. They also report bugs behind the scenes. They are acting like civilized adults instead of just saying it's terrible and ranting about it for every single one of their streams. That would get boring and tedious quick.
      Just don't watch the ambassadors or listen to them if you think they are bad.
      I personally don't think tsw is a bad game. Trust me. I've seen much much worse. Tsw just needs a bit more attention in some areas and follow through with what they say but other than that it's a good game for a casual gamer wanting to drive trains. If you want more realism, there's plenty of other train games out there

  • @HyperBlueWolf
    @HyperBlueWolf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Parkway" literally means "In the middle of nowhere" ... All stations with "Parkway" in the name are a barren wasteland.