Let's Take a Good Look at These Next-Gen Nintendo Rumors
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Strong rumors suggest that Nintendo's next system is coming next year. Let's take a look at those rumors.
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Arlo pulled a tom scott lol
@arlo switch advance
How is your pinned comment 2 days ago?
@@zavery_johnsonThat is weird, didn’t even notice
Backwards compatibility is an absolute must. Especially considering their competitors offer it for free.
They don't, you need a subscription
Nintendo don't give a sh!t about what you want. If they can make you buy the same games again, they will.
they meant backwards compatibility to last gen not any system before that @@1HundoGames
watch them only do it with the digital side of games
@@1HundoGames A subscription for what? Almost all games on PS and xbox are BC for free, and most games also offer a free upgrade to the next gen. There's no subscription there.
Almost every previous Nintendo console and handheld has had backwards compatibility to some extent, it would be genuinely shocking if the Switch were any different
But also, money
Hold up…
The most recent change 3ds/Wii U -> Switch didn't have backwards compatibility
Not to mention Nintendo has made it clear that they do want some type of way to bring digtal games from console to console via Nintendo Accounts so having the ability for phyiscal games to also be backwards compatible makes to much sense
@@jgt1120 the Wii U used discs and the Switch uses cartridges so I can see why there was no backwards compatibility there. But this will be another Switch and It will definitely use cartridges. So there’s little excuse here.
Can’t come up with an excuse for the 3DS. Uh maybe because of that small thing on the cartridge that prevented you from putting it in a DS idk
I understand the issue with cartridges, but I'm hoping Nintendo never goes fully digital. Physical copies of any media, movies, TV shows, and games, are important for preserving them, good or bad, for future generations. Also, backwards compatibility is absolutely necessary to stay ahead of their competitors offering past gen games on current gen consoles for free.
Very much agreed
I wouldn't worry about it, I love Nintendo and I agree with still having physical copies of games, but they will probably be the last ones to abandon physical games. Nintendo is very conservative most of the time.
The day we stop getting physical games is the day I stop paying for them
Being able to collect physical games for the switch with the full game on the cart is why it's my favorite console over PS5
@@RustyNips well yeah... how can you pay for physical games if you can't get them 🧐
I believe the “to avoid shortages” means it’s gonna be ready by maybe June 2024, but they’re gonna be spending more time manufacturing units to have a better launch
I think it would be leaning towards September at the earliest.
I really don't think it's coming next year. I believe it'll come in 2025 at the earliest.
@@edvance1030 One thing Arlo neglected to mention was that in the documents for the recent Microsoft vs Sony for the Activision merger mention that they made a 10-year deal with Nintendo to bring CoD to their next console. In the official court transcripts, they state that it's expected in the near future, next year. So 2024 it seems to be.
THIS! More time to manufacture means more units on shelves to sell to try to allocate for potential/possible demand
It’s not that hard of a concept. Arlo was just mid rant and not thinking
Considering the 3DS was a follow up to the DS and that had backwards compatibility, it feels like a good bet to say the “Switch 2” will have it as well
that was a decade ago.
@@astr0sauce I’m glad you understand how time works! Have a cookie 🍪
@@kevbloxtime basing current nintendo’s decisions on their decisions for the 3DS in 2010 is ridiculous.
Considering we are in a similar situation it wouldn't be hard to believe they would take a similar path. The DS was extremely popular and is one of the best selling consoles. It was a revolutionary console for having 2 separate screens with one being touch. It ammases a huge library of games and large player base. The next handheld comes along and they just add to the formula with a 3d screen and better performance while also allowing backwards compatibility so all those players have a reason to upgrade.
However since the switch is the first console in a long time (gamecube for consoles, and the gameboy for portable) to not offer any sort of backwards compatibility, though unlikely due to the continued use of cartridges and is likely to be similar to the switch (with some little gimmick to entice upgrading), they could have started down a road that would lead to the end of backwards compatibility.
@@astr0sauce GBA ran GB/C, DS ran GBA, 3DS ran DS, Wii ran Gamecube, Wii U ran Wii. They have a long history of supporting backwards compatibility when the physical medium is compatible, even going out of their way to add cartridge ports as with the DS.
I feel like NIntendo stands to gain a lot by upping the hard drive space. They would make a lot more money if people felt comfortable buying digital games without having to worry about running out of space.
You know you can just put a memory card in your switch right?
@@bvmovies2 this reply was so useless, good job buddy
@@Clesswasn’t useless. He’s exactly right. If Nintendo ups the storage they’re going to charge more than it would cost to buy a microSD yourself. Look at the Steam Deck…They charge 130$ more for less than 200gb of extra storage…You can get a 1tb SD card for less than that 🥴
Agreed. And it'll end up being between 128 and 512GB of UFS 3.0/3.1 storage. 256GB is the most likely
@@High_Noon_Sports_CardsI would just like to note there is a difference between an internal SSD and an SD card
i absolutely LOVE this once in seven years tradition of Nintendo fans just collectively speculating on the next big thing, reminds me of the reasons i love this fandom!
Except it feels like it's been speculation for 7 years about the Switch's successor.
@@FilotusI feel the same way
@@Chiller31916 I guess that's the Switch's impact.
@@Filotus
To be fairness NX speculation was reeeally quick after Wii U release
@@Wiziliz True, though that was more due to the Wii U's disastrous performance & people were itching for something new.
To me, seems like people have been speculating about Switch 2(or Switch Pro) due to people constantly complaining how underpowered the Switch is compared to then current Gen consoles (Xbox One vs PS4 at the time).
3:48 I think it just means they're spending an extra 6 months to manufacture more units & have a stockpile.
I seriously doubt that the next gen console won’t have backwards compatibility because of all of the new games releasing this year and Splatoon 3’s DLC still not being released.
I personally think they would handle backwards compatibility in a very anti-consumer way. Like you can only do it with digital titles and you have transfer your switch ID into the Super switch so you can’t have both. Hopefully they go full pro-consumer and do physical and digital without any strings attached. We shall see.
Nah mate lmfao
Yeah I have a feeling it'll be digital only as well
In order to get switch 1 games on switch 2 you need the expansion to the nso expansion pass that costs $120 a year
they were pretty good with backwards compatibility when they didn't change the physical format so i wouldnt worry about that
Almost all of their previous systems have had free backwards compatibility with 1-2 older systems so I’m sure the new switch will too
Regarding cartridge usage: a huge problem with any optical media is that it’s incredibly prone to skipping if it’s jostled. CD players solved this in the early 2000s by reading data into memory so that, in the event of a jostle, it can detect and read from the buffer, thus preventing skips. However, in an audio CD, you can do this more easily; after you play the data for seconds 1-3, you’re going to need the data for seconds 4-6, so it’s easy to know what you need to load into memory. It’s a bit more difficult with a video game - the game doesn’t know what data you’re going to be accessing ahead of time, so it’s harder to know what to buffer. Optical media on a portable system may require increased load times to buffer more data, or increased costs for fast internal memory so more data can be buffered throughout / it can be loaded more quickly. Part of the expense of cartridges has been that flash memory prices were incredibly high through late last year due to shortages. As that’s calmed down, it seems likely that Nintendo’s next system will be able to offer larger bucket sizes for cartridges (anticipating an absolute max of 256gb which rarely if ever gets used) at the same if not better prices as the Switch’s lower capacity cartridges.
I always hated optical media. 3d nand ftw
Cartridges are basically necessary if you want good battery life on your handheld. A spinning disc reader eats up your battery so much and is noisy as hell. Not to mention a lot of extra parts that could break during travel or when you drop it...
Just started Metroid Prime remastered, absolutely loving it! The only other Metroid game I’ve played was Dread and I LOVE that game, beat it 100%
That's exactly my experience with Dread! Hyped to play Metroid Prime eventually!
Amazing games. Do you a favor and play Metroid Fusion too. It's on the GBA expansion pack.
Metroid is awesome :)
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@@despacitospider8132 Olimar
I hope for backwards compatibility, but an unfortunate by product of that would be that, on day one of release, the "Switch 2" eshop will be automatically populated with the mountains of shovelware that is plaguing the current eshop.
This could be avoided by implementing a quality certification system on the new system and make "unproven"/indie developers re-apply for it. I know its not the most dev friendly, but it's the bed nintendo has made for themselves. The E-Shop is abysmal right now.
@@moth2120it just needs an entirely new storefront. The other platforms (Xbox, ps, steam) have just as much bullshit on them and they're much easier to navigate.
I don't understand Nintendo's logic. The eShop should have been redesigned years ago.
It's likely they gonna had two shop sections similar to 3DS and DSi. All HD stuff will be in the Switch section while all the 4K stuff will be in the next gen section of the shop. Then when the time comes Nintendo could easily just close down the Switch section of the shop 5-7 years after the next gen console launch.
I am so excited that I got to ride along on the hype train to the “NX” with Arlo and we had this glorious adventure that is the switch generation!!! Arlo, you are my favorite Nintendo TH-camr and one of my fav overall content creators! I am very excited to watch this video and watch all your future content :)
@@GigaWiiU64 I have really enjoyed watching Scott and Antdude and the completionist and Bob Wulf among so many others. I love watching Scott’s end of year wrap up for the switch. I love rewatching the completionist’s review of hyrule Warriors with the train ride up to Nintendo HQ. The switch has been my fav Nintendo console and I just can’t wait to see what is next.
Imma be real with you, chief. I don’t care how reputable the sources are. We’ve been burned so many times at this point that I will not believe anything that anyone says about their next system until I see it from Nintendo and have it in my hands.
I definitely agree with you I am honestly so tired of the rumors for "switch 2"
You've only been "burned" if you've been listening to sources that *aren't* reputable. The only sources that *really matter* are the Nvidia leak of about 250GB of data, and these more recent ones.
@@redwidow1358lmao these ppl believe every reddit leak they see then talk about getting “burned”
How can you be "burned", its not like you spent money or hours on the idea of a new system, we all just talk and have fun with the possibilities. Such a weird ass take.
I can give you basically all of the SoC specs right now and I am legitimately 99% confident in all of them. The chip is T239, codename Drake.
GPU: 12SM Nvidia Ampere (GA10F). 1536 CUDA Cores, 12 RT Cores, 48 Tensor Cores. 2 TFLOPs FP32 in handheld mode (660MHz per SM, power draw of 4.2W total for GPU). 3.5 TFLOPs docked mode at 1.125GHz per SM, 9.1W power draw. Nvidia DLSS 2.x implemented in graphics API level.
CPU: 8x ARM Cortex A78C cores clocked between 1.5 and 1.8 GHz
Memory: 12GB of LPDDR5 6400Mhz on a 128 bit bus, 102GB/s of bandwidth
Performance: 1080P 60FPS (with some DLSS 2 upscaling) in handheld mode. 4K 30+ in docked (with extensive upscaling)
Ideally I would want a switch that can still be played on the TV while undocked for dual screen play. Basically a Wii U 2 but also fully portable. If that were the case we could have a machine capable of playing everything from Nintendos history.
Would be geat but this would be unpossible. Because the only option is to stream from the handheld to the TV, but than 4k resolution with upscalling would be not possible and i think this is a must have for the new system.
I think I’ve reached a point in my gaming career where I care significantly more about the software/games themselves rather than the console they’re coming out on, and I’m just finding myself less and less invested in these kinds of rumors over time
To be fair, at this point, the consoles coming out nowadays aren't really revolutionary steps above what came before. The jump from N64 to GameCube, or NES to SNES are more obviously apparent than the difference between what the Wii U and Switch can put out. The hardware isn't really being as much a limit anymore on the types of games one can create.
Yeah but if the console is born death, that impacts the quantity and quality of the games we get. Like the wiiu vs switch story.
Yeah PC is coming out on top to be the ultimate experience in consoles have become kind of a scam.... western development has gotten to be a lazy cash grab with unfinished games and DLCs and expensive budgets for games not really worth it
Nintendo systems are slightly different but paying for online in anyway still pisses me off
@@enrique9925 not really because so many of the switches best games are Wii U ports
@jaykebird2go the hardware is absolutely a limitation in the case of Wii U and Switch lmao, Zelda games tailor engineered for those consoles are fighting for their life to have solid FPS, and almost all AAA releases outside of Nintendo can't feasibly put ports onto the Switch
The first video i ever watched on your channel was covering the NX rumors, and ive been watching ever since. It almost brings a tear to my eye tothink about the amount of time that has passed since then.
The biggest thing that I am happy about is the cartridge slot. Why? Means theres a teeny eeny weeny chance that switch games are backwards compatible. Meaning potentially plug a switch game into this new console and get a resolution bump. if thats the case then YESS!!
Arlo’s biggest question about the next Nintendo console: can it play Pikmin 4?
I was hoping that the long-rumored Donkey Kong game would come out on Switch (along with an HD re-release of DKC returns so we could have the complete trilogy on one system), but, alas, it looks like it won't happen. Which means it is probably coming out on the next system, which unfortunately I won't be able to buy for a while.
I want a full remake of the original DKC Trilogy, that would be god tier
I honestly hope they at least keep the 7 inch screen for the next switch. The oled is great, don't get me wrong, but I really appreciate the increased screen size
I've heard it'll be 8 inch
@@MatanumiYep its a 7.91" 1080P LCD panel (sadly not OLED, but it is a much nicer screen than the Switch base)
I really hope we get backwards compatibility
It'll likely happen but only on the launch version. We all know Nintendo will start removing features once they made redesign version of their console.
i still really love the video you made the night before the switch was first officially announced, about how special a moment in time that was. Being on the cusp of knowing what was next, and just kind of soaking in the feeling of anticipation. I think about that a lot.
I'm excited to see what gimmicks they'll show and no one will use 😄😄😄
Right??? Even the Switch was like this for me lmao. I turned off HD rumble cuz I hate the vibrations in my hands and turned off gyro because I frequently move around or sit in weird positions while playing. I do wish more games used the touchscreen, though. Especially for things like typing in a file name or scrolling through tutorial text.
@@animeartist888 I think you're in the minority if you consider gyro or rumble gimmicky. They're both fairly standard controller features.
And the ir sensor function has finalky been used by trombone champ!
Some consoles had excuses for not being backwards compatible. The switch didn’t have a game pad function and didn’t have a disc slot, so it was understandable. The GameCube had discs and the N64 didn’t, so that was also understandable. But considering that the next gen console will likely use the same form factor and game format, I think it’s reasonable to expect backwards compatibility
What they should do is have more power inside the Dock, so it competes with other consoles at home.
They should also bring the Switch Lite along. You can easily have a larger OLED screen with the same size.
There should also be more apps available, like Facebook and Netflix and so on.
Did we not learn our lesson on rumors since the “grinch leak”?
If a system isn't backwards compatible i usually wait a few years for the library to grow.
If it is, i usually buy it when the first big game arrives.
If they want early sales, they need backwards compatibility.
I love your videos so much arlo thank you for making great content 😊
The fact that it’s a cartridge slot increases the Chance of it being backwards compatible, so in this case i would say it’s a good sign.
Because no shot Nintendo would add a CD module and a cartridge slot just so it could play old switch games.
I guess I'm at the age where I don't want change because the idea of the switch no longer being the active Nintendo console fills me with a strange sort of dread rather than excitement.
Welcome to my world. I haven't been in the midnight release lines ever, and as an adult who has to buy the consoles for myself rather than get them for gifts, I definitely dread seeing announcements for a new Switch. I love my Switch, and I'm really not ready for game store shelves to clear out for games only playable on the new one.
These rumors seem to be based on dev units, so I think it is possible the new system has an OLED screen but that would not be needed for a dev unit which can be made with a cheaper, but similar lcd panel.
Nintendo has supported B/C more than any other game console maker so I am confident they will support it on the new console too, but again this isn’t necessary for a developer model console.
Storage on the cartridges should not be an issue. I have a 1 Tb microSD card for my Steamdeck and it didnt set me back that much.
yeah flash storage is getting real cheap, a 2tb high end Samsung ssd is 80 dollars now
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Hey Arlo, the Switch Pro wasnt actually cancelled or planned. Insiders passed along info that a new Nvidia Tegra chip was in production, which coincided very well with production of a new dock and model (the OLED dock and SWOLED). The dock specs in particular led to analysts believing that this was a full Switch Pro and not a minor hardware revision as the OLED dock has upgraded display out to support 4K 60 signal output to 4K TVs. So the reporters put all this info together, and not unreasonably speculated that the SWOLED was actually a Switch Pro with an upgraded Tegra chip. It was a case of slightly poor interpretation of the available data than an actual cancellation of the Switch Pro
I think the Switch 2 will have digital patches for backwards compatibility for large games. I doubt native backwards compatibility support though for everything
Splatoon but because of the extreme graphics upgrade,the glasses you can wear will have that one anime affect where the lenses glow white. This can happen irl when a the sun or another super bright light source I hits the lenses at just the right angle
My personal hope is that nintendo adds something new to the controllers. My biggest wish would be the addition of either touch pads or standard backbuttons
I would love backbuttons, even if they're just set up to copy some other button on the controller. They're so nice on the third party controllers I use!
As nice as those would be, they should probably focus on making sure their new controllers actually work this time before they think about adding anything new.
My biggest hope is to make the ZL and ZR buttons into analog triggers.
Already exists on the Switch: the Hori Split Pad
i sure hope nintendo never goes full digital, not untiul consumer rights laws are more clear and consumer friendly when it comes to owning digital content.
I'm kinda hoping Nintendo will make a Single Player Splatoon game, maybe like a spin off.
Could the next gen gimmick be a VR dock
Won't be
The most obvious way holding off launch can lead to ample stock would be having an additional six months of plants manufacturing systems, so millions of additional units are available. Makes sense to me.
My IT guy use to have a client that was a video game developer in my area. Big name company. He set up their workstations and internal network (he never worked on the games) He went in one day to do some regular routine maintenance, installing a new workstation for a new hire. The head of the company walked up to him and said "do you want to see the PS5" (This was before it was announced publically). Obviously, IT guy said yes and was led to a PC tower with custom hardware inside (the dev kit). The head of a major AAA developer wasnt even trying to hide the fact that a PS5 was near to being announced.
And yes, the IT guy said it wasnt just them pulling his leg. It was legitimately the dev kit that was available at the time. If they heads of developers are so candid about this, i can onlu imagine how people lower on the totem pole are. Im suprised the specs havent leaked tbh
I hope that they fix joycon drift it’s been here for long enough
Indeed I hope the "switch 2" fixes joy con drift.
Ex Nintendo Minute hosts Kit and Krista have implied that Ubisoft is the source of many leaks
Can't wait to see all the new games they have waiting behind the curtain. I'm hoping to see a Xenoblade Chronicles X2 for the next gen, personally. Definitely want to see Metroid Prime 4 and Mario Odyssey 2.
the switch pro rumor is interesting because, like... it's basically all but confirmed that it was in development at one point before getting scrapped. Jason Schreier, probably one of the most reputable folks in the biz, had multiple sources indicating that multiple AAA studios received 4k Switch dev kits.
Also as for that question of who gets this insider info, there's one really interesting tactic that Bandai Namco has been using since at least Soul Calibur 5's development cycle back in 2010-2012, if not earlier, one that I would not be surprised if Nintendo and other Japanese companies have picked up on: Lying!
This plays out in two ways, but there's one that's actually relevant here. During development of Soul Calibur 5, a lot of independent contractors consulting on the game were purportedly told that it was cool if they leaked info, but only on the condition that they had to mix in false info.
The other, less relevant method is one that Katsuhiro Harada personally used during development of Tekken 7's DLC: he would put together fake DLC lineups, and give them to people who he was concerned would leak, and who didn't need to know the actual DLC lineup. Each person would get a different fake lineup, so he could easily trace leaks back to people
And I think that approach - of knowing that leaks will happen, but trying to make sure false info gets mixed in - is actually a really smart tactic. I think they recognized pretty early on - *years* before today's leak culture emerged - that having some leaked info that turns out to be true builds hype, having others turn out false would help preserve that hype by retaining an element of uncertainty, and you can even have stuff that hasn't been finalized get included as if it were true as a way to gauge interest.
I think a lot of people will buy a switch 2 in order to play their old switch games with better performance so not having any backwards compatibility would be insane.
The Switch 2 won't be able to play Switch 1 Games with better performance, that's only something a port can do.
The Switch 2 will likely solve backwards compatibility by adding 3 or 4 ARM Cortex 57 Cores (the one the Switch 1 used) and play Switch games on these, just like they just added the GBA CPU to the DS and added the DS CPU to the 3DS.
Switch 1 Games are not programmed to use Switch 2 Hardware, they don't even try to access it. Games made for Switch 1 will perform the same on Switch 2. DS games which lag also lag on the 3DS for the same reason
One question: if they will do another new proprietary cartridge, how will backwards compatibility work? will they have a separate slot like the DS and DS lite? or will they use the same cartridges and expand their storage, or maybe digital only compatibility, like the 3DS and GBA
The 3ds only has one slot, yet has backwards compatibility with the ds. They just added a little notch
Apparently there will be backwards compatibility with physical
I feel like the reason they sticking with cartridges is because they might go the way of the ds and gameboy advanced. the last gen cartridges still worked on them. maybe that's why that guy was saying it might affect the sales of the new console because it's going to have to sacrifice some power to do that.
People forget that when it makes sense and isn't too inconvenient from a design practicality standpoint, they do focus on backwards compatibility as a feature. GB to GBA, DS to 3DS, Wii to Wii U. Of course Switch will be backwards compatible because why not when it's so easy in this case?
I hope the new switch console uses replaceable NVME drives as storage like the steam deck does.
Then if you want 2TB of internal storage, you can have it and it will be fast
Internet stop spreading rumors about NextGen Nintendo Console Challenge: impossible difficulty
Honestly, when I heard rumours of Switch 2 releasing this year, my first thought was “too soon for next gen”. But late 2024/early 2025 is (in my opinion) the earliest they can release it without it feeling “too soon”. Give the Switch a noticeable longer than usual generation (from release to next gen release) to contrast the Wii U’s shorter than usual generation (Switch’s almost 8 years vs Wii U’s 5 years)
Yes to physical media (pro game conservation)
Yes to backwards compatibility with Switch (big library from launch)
I’m curious, what’s the song in the video? It sounds really nice (the first song in the video). It’s super calm and peaceful
I want a arlo vid of his take on the lore changes of pikmin 4
I'm sure the next nintendo console will be backwards compatible because people will be buying the original switch games for years to come so nintendo will still be making a lot of cash no need to worry about the next nintendo console nintendo said we will listen to what the people want I guarantee we will not be disappointed great vid keep up the good work
Regards backwards compatibility you could 1) Emulate the basic version via proprietary emulation 2) Provide Free first party patches for "4K" versions of the same game which provide smoother framerate and 4K resolution visuals. 3) Allow third parties to do an "upgrade" via patch but give them an option to charge and be scummy if they want to. The cartridge is a sticky situation, the best compromise is that you allow third parties to just do the thing of using the cheapest 8GB cart and then the rest of it downloads {shrugs} or the least likely subsidise developers so they pay for an 8GB cart while Nintendo pays for the difference for certain publishers, I dunno. It's a tough situation. If you go all digital you then have a backwards compatibility issue and then you have to quadrupole that 128GB storage you're predicting to make all digital worthwhile.
Hi Arlo ! I’m a new viewer and I love your content! I guess I’m wondering why Nintendo would drop Zelda: TOTK if they had a new console ready for next year during holiday. Why not save TOTK and promote it in a big way with the new console?
If they have another (or several) big game(s) planned for the release they don't want to cannibalise sales. Also if the new console is backwards compatible they can use TOTK as a selling point of improved performance.
I’d really like to see a Switch 2 console be named the “Super Switch”, evoking the old SNES format. It would add the nostalgia element for old school fans, sound more fun than a numerical sequel, and it rolls right off the tongue!
Everyone could shortern the name to “SS” aaaaaand never mind this is a terrible idea ignore me.
I honestly think that's a banger idea
They could do SNS as an acronym
Can't wait for them to release the Nintendo Switch Booster Course Pass! A paid DLC that adds a ton of features to the Nintendo Switch that's released over the span of a year!
10:08 This comment was about playing backwards compatible games instead of next gen ones. I don't think whoever said this didn't think of people who buy re-released games they already had but for the newer system. The group who does that is such a small minority that publishers probably don't care. What I think they meant is new next gen games needing to compete against the catalogue of games people already own or popular Switch titles that are probably cheaper and so make people less eager to buy new next gen titles.
The release window of a console is a golden opportunity to sell a game people otherwise might not buy. Now they will buy it since the options are just so limmited. Imagine you publish a platformer with next gen graphics, something akin to Kena: Bridge of Spirits. Maybe the mechanics aren't that exciting. But it's the hot new thing that looks cool on the improved hardware. That would sell like crazy in the early release of the new console when people are hyped about what the machine is capable off. But not so much if you could also play Mario Odyssey or Kirby and the Forgotten World on the same console. Then you need to compete against a very safe bet for a first game to play on the new console.
It would be benefitial to both Nintendo and 3rd party publishers if the next gen consolse wasn't backwards compatible. Since Nintendo would be able to sell its biggest hits again for full price to new customers or even for the next gen upgrade to existing consumers. While 3rd party publishers would feel safe that they don't have to compete against the first party heavy hitters. For Nintendo the choice to make is mostly about early wins vs late wins. A backwards compatible console is more attractive since a large group already has tons of games they can play on it. This makes it sell better at launch but worse later on. Whereas no backwards compatibility makes it less attractive at launch but could result in better profits for rereleased games. Which makes me think that if Nintendo is confident in this console's selling power they would leave backwards compatibility out, but if they think it's not as big a sales monster they might have to include it. And by the sounds of it the thing is just a more powerful Switch. And a more powerful console that is basically just another Switch but with hardly any games on it doesn't sound like it would sell that amazingly well.
So my bet in on it being backwards compatible. Which is good for most every gamer. I'd love to see TotK run in say 1440p or whatever. But there's downsides too. It also means MK8 is still playable which would mean there isn't gonna be an MK9 for even longer still.
The thought of only having digital games is terrifying. Just look at what Ubisoft has done where they close people's accounts and in the process steal all the Ubisoft games those people bought. Lack of backwards compatibility can be okay (especially since we all own Switches already), but digital-only would be horrible.
On the cartridge thing, I've heard on a forum that there's apparently some new tech to increase cart sizes and decrease cost. Don't recall exactly where I heard that, could be full of it but who knows. ALSO: the most exciting thing about this to me is that if this is true, it kindddda gives even more credibility to those nvidia gpu leaks a while back, where it seems like the next system will be more of a straight upgrade to the current one. As mundane as that sounds, as a Nintendo fan, it's just incredibly exciting to me because it means that for once, they're sticking with a concept that works and improving on it instead of cutting corners on hardware and going for some kind of novelty that may or may not work out in the long run. It's just, I think they're in a really good spot with this hybrid concept, because having their handheld and home console divisions combined makes the game output so much more palpable imo. If they don't add on some kind of expensive gimmick, this is probably set to be the biggest hardware bump since Wii to Wii U.
Famiboards is my guess for the forum
it's just NAND flash memory.... which is at a massive historical low and going lower right now
I'd like if the dock played a bigger role in the system, instead of only serving as a "cable hub".
Maybe some modular hardware upgrades, like an SSD used in docked situations, or like some powerful hardware for bigger resolutions on TV, but that is not needed on portable mode (so less battery consumption), I don't know.
I think it having rumored to have a cartridge port means it backwards compatible. I can't see them sticking with physical if not to allow people to play their old games on it.
Backward compatibility is a must. I for one think physical cartridges are necessary. I'm a huge believer in physical. If it's digital, you don't 100% own it. It can be more easily lost, limited, or taken away.
I really hope they at least have the same NSO, so you don't have to pay twice to play online on both consoles.
Idk, personally I've always liked the physical cartridges. And with small internal storage it's kind of a must. I mean for example Tears of the Kingdom digitally was 13 Gb. With the cartridge it was only 2 GB on the system with the rest in the cartridge.
Unlike Xbox and PlayStation where the CD is just a glorified Key needed to download the 100GB game rather than holding actual game data in it, Nintendo still puts most of the game data on the cartridge itself which makes buying physical better imo.
I can’t believe I’ve been watching Arlo for over 7 or 8 years
Devs saying a back-compatibility library would hurt they sales is basically an admission their games aren't worth buying.
Nintendo can't expect people to restart their library from scratch? Have you met Nintendo?
I would hope we're looking at a model without an OLED screen, because these screens usually really suck in the long run. In my experience it's not a question of 'if' screen burn will happen, but 'when'. I don't need to see the Animal Crossing menu when I'm playing Zelda, thank you very much.
As I get older, the amount of days I have that are "great" seems to get lesser and lesser, but thank you never the less
I can say with near certainty that the next console will not be backwards compatible, because it would be good for consumers if it was. Given how successful reselling Wii U games to consumers at close to full price has been, it'd be unlikely for them to throw that away.
Okay, so I know I'm gonna be wrong about this because I feel this kind of thing would be too good to be true, but this is what I'd love for the next console.
A similar setup to the switch in the sense of it being portable, but instead of having to be plugged into the dock, the console can stream either directly to the television or directly to the dock which then displays it on the television. The dock would have a disk drive, and the console itself would have a card reader for switch games. This means you could play one of three ways, handheld, docked, or a wii-u-esque "mixed" mode. The console would be called "Nintendo Mix"
It would be compatible with joy-cons as well as their successors, which would be basically beefier joy cons. Sticks, buttons and triggers similar to Sony and Microsoft's offering. (Though knowing Nintendo, I doubt they'd move on from the type of buttons they used previously unless they shifted their focus on games that would need/benefit from analog triggers) the dock would either have a sensor bar built in or something similar so that way the new-cons could have wiimote-esque pointer capabilities.
The console would be more powerful than the switch, but not by much. It'd be closer to a PS4 than a PS5, since we've got those to compare. Nintendo has been more about squeezing the best out of limited hardware from the wii era onward.
Online would be better, but not by much. The online infrastructure would be overhauled for newer games whilst switch games would keep the same online before being phased out or transferred over to the new online. Since Nintendo is dying on that drip-feed hill, they'd be keeping the NSO retro console shtick. For this fantasy console, I posit they'd add Wii or GameCube to it, alongside DS games.
There's my fantasy console. Wonder if any of that will be there or if the kings of left field will work their wacky out-of-nowhere trickery again. Let's revisit this comment in a year or two to find out.
Backwards compatibility would help push NSO subscriptions. Not only would it give even new adaptors a massive library day one, just by signing up and getting the retro stuff, but being able to transfer your cloud saves up might be enough to entice any holds outs to the service. They can still be conniving and greedy and give the feature to us.
Top ten features for switch 2:
1. IR pointer
2. Much better Bluetooth-controller signal, maybe just as good as the wii u signal
3. Driftless joycon
4. Better/ harsher HD rumble
5. Analog triggers
6. Backwards compatibility
7. Bought Backwards upgrade though eshop
8. So much more storage space/ base oled display
9. F zero gx/ax remake
10. All new F Zero
Garanteed to sell trillions of unit more than the switch
7:30 where are you gonna put a disc in the switch in handheld mode without making the unit too beefy? How are they gonna make sure that if you drop it while the game is in that the disc doesn't shatter? Cartridges are the only option for physical switch games
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Backwards compatibility is absolutely a must: I want to imagine Nintendo will not want to risk the violent public backlash omitting it
What if the cartridge slot is mainly for backwards compatibility and to allow Nintendo to continue releasing games for the Switch that are also playable on the new console. But then what if for the beefier new games, these are released on disc. The new dock could potentially have a disc drive and allow for these games to be downloaded to handheld memory for handheld play away from home.
I may be on an island by myself, but I’m hoping for something Donkey Kong on the new system/direct showcase. 🦍
Always hoping for that 3d dk game that never seems to happen :(
Guys backwards compatibility was confirmed months ago they said it would be a seemless process. Im 100 percent sure they said it in the chart of 20xx remember?
You know what I'd like to see in the future? A Nintendo console that can play both cartridge and cd via backwards compatibility and not online emulation, so we can play ALL THE GAMES in our nintendo library.
If they were really concerned about cost cutting measures, they'd keep the same format for their next console - that's something you wouldn't have to worry about. The cartridges are small enough to not be overly intrusive, and because of the continual development of flash memory capacity over the years, they could actually make cartridges that are the same size and shape, but are a higher capacity, without having to spend a higher amount (assuming that manufacture costs have dropped, as they should have).
I do agree that the next console needs a bigger drive storage (because the size of games IS going up, whether Nintendo likes it or not).
The Tegra chipset needs replacing with something more powerful. Sure, it still surpasses the PS3, by a lot (nearly 5x allegedly), but now they should be aiming for something more comparable to the PS4. Mobile technology has come on leaps and bounds since the introduction of the Tegra X1 back in 2015, and I imagine even a mobile processor that would be considered outdated now (IE, not being super expensive to implement), aught to be able to deliver that. The Switch's successor should be aiming to match - or surpass - any machine in the 8th Generation. I would argue matching the XBox One X might be a little difficult in a form factor so small, but at the very least it should aim for surpassing the PS4 Pro's 4.2TFlops.
They also know they have to be careful with system cooling, because whatever they have in the base model Switch isn't good enough for stronger components (as we've seen from the odd person having cases that broke due to overheating).
My concern is that catching up to the end of the 8th Gen might set the next console a bit more expensive than the Switch was at launch. It does not need to compete with the 9th Gen at all in terms of power, as we've seen Nintendo do very well with underpowered machines, but they can't keep cutting the budget forever if they want to keep getting good 3rd party support.
If it doesn't have BC I'll be kinda relieved that I can wait for a mid-gen model.
I don’t think they would announce a non-backwards compatible console after all the major releases this year and next
If they're basically doing the Switch again for the next console, and it's even using cartridges again, they have no genuine excuse not to include backwards compatibility with Switch games
Cartridges are a must as the idea of gifting a friend or family member a Nintendo game is huge! As opposed to the more adult focused consoles where digital gifting makes more sense
Arlo know we waiting for that 3 hour pikmin 4 review. ❤❤❤
I really wish Nintendo would start competing on specs again. Don't tell me that they never did, because I know for a fact that they did. N64 was the best console on the market at the time, and was only hampered by the low amount of RAM and no optical drive. Had it had a CD drive and decently big RAM, it would dominate that generation. Same with Gamecube, it still was one of the best consoles that generation (better than the Dreamcast), but was beaten by PS2, because, just like Dreamcast, it didn't have an extra function of playing DVDs. Then the Wii happened, an underpowered system that somehow did very well due to gimmick controls, and they started to release crap consoles.
But yeah, if they start competing on specs+having the power of their amazing first-party titles, I think we would have a generation winner on our hands.
The legacy content part of the article gave me hope that we will get backwards compatibility but I wouldn’t get nervous because there was a reason we never had it in the first place
What is the music playing here? 7:50 I swear I’ve heard it before, but I can’t remember where from
If they stuck with the pixel density of a switch lite "beautiful crisp screen" but on a regular switch2 screen size then added a couple more notches of Brightness Max.. I'll be Happy
Portable consoles are, theoretically, capable of similar power to a gaming PC. The steamdeck actually runs alot of intensive triple a games REALLY well, so if Nintendo steps up their game to steamdeck standards, it's possible we could still get better graphics and fps and all that good stuff.
Probably won't happen though lmao
Great video as always. Much love to Arlo and all the wonderful fans out there! ❤