Max Damage Loadouts in Terraria

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  • In today's video, we take a look at the max damage loadout for each class and then compare them to see which is the best. I'm aware of ways to reach insanely high damage through utilizing elaborate setups to the point where you can kill bosses in 1 tick, but this video won't cover those. Instead, we will be taking a look at every single way to boost damage for each class and to see how much damage we can achieve. I should also mention that we will be looking at general dps rather than specific interactions. For example, the Stake Launcher when used against vampires offers a huge damage boost, but it's only against the one enemy. Interactions like that will not be covered in this video. If you would like to see more videos like these then be sure to let me know in the comments, thanks for watching!
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  • @toomuchdog74
    @toomuchdog74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11297

    I like how the Mage in Endgame isn’t even referred to as “Mage”, it has basically turned to “The Last Prism set”

    • @naphackDT
      @naphackDT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1682

      Mage earlygame: Spam waterbolt.
      Mage midgame: A varied toolkit of a wide set of spells, each with their own niche utility. In fact too many to have all in the hotbar at the same time.
      Mage lategame: Haha, prism go BZZZZZZZT.

    • @JJSquirtle
      @JJSquirtle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

      I'm pretty sure there's stronger than last prism for single target with mage though. prism inflicts piercing granting the enemy i-frames. it's good for a lot but not all situations (i.e. fishron)

    • @siegfried1422
      @siegfried1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      I don't like the Prism because it's mana inefficiency against single targets; the Nebula Blaze and Celestial Flare are really good for that though.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      @@siegfried1422 That's why you always have multiple weapons

    • @emeralddolphin1625
      @emeralddolphin1625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      naphackDT me trying to balance my razor blade typhoon, magnet sphere, razor pine, and bubble gum:

  • @mochii2229
    @mochii2229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9174

    Melee class: almost dead last in dps Zenith: hold my beer

    • @seratope
      @seratope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +386

      zenith definitely does something to chlorophyte phantasm

    • @JupiterDude3000
      @JupiterDude3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +346

      Yea.... I’m scared to wonder how much damage that does. The Zenith is a horrifying weapon that I wonder how much it does

    • @seratope
      @seratope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      @@JupiterDude3000 base is 201, I've made it go up to 350 and it can go higher

    • @bbyk3074
      @bbyk3074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +395

      Zenith: "hold my crafting tree"

    • @neetboi9807
      @neetboi9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      I made my zenith go to 502 dmg

  • @grizzlle2275
    @grizzlle2275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4357

    Mage: "Nebula armor is the best!"
    Ranged: "No its the Vortex armor!"
    Summoner: "No its Stardust, it even gives me a guard!"
    Melee: "Bug boi."

    • @bionicleapple1254
      @bionicleapple1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

      Stardust armor gives you STANDO POWAH

    • @totallynotme8153
      @totallynotme8153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Beetle armour?

    • @grizzlle2275
      @grizzlle2275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@totallynotme8153 no i'm talking about adamantite, OF COURSE ITS BEETLE ARMOUR WHAT OTHER ARMOUR SET IS NAMED AFTER A BUG YOU PİECE OF ASS HAM.
      Just to clarify i'm not actually angry and i know about the armor from the queen bee, but *thats a fucking summoner set.*

    • @kendrakomer9028
      @kendrakomer9028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@grizzlle2275 language please

    • @elijahbauer8488
      @elijahbauer8488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@grizzlle2275 wth are you on

  • @ironicweeb6684
    @ironicweeb6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4010

    Summoner: For those who prioritize assistance rather than attacking
    Mage: For those who love seeing the boss health bar sink
    Ranger: For those who loves the feeling of satisfaction with guaranteed crits.
    Melee: For the brainless who want to deal a lot of damage (Me)

    • @sovietmogus3263
      @sovietmogus3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Destructive: For diagnosed psychopaths (me)

    • @sran438
      @sran438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      Mixed: A little bit of everything (me)

    • @MrTyrone77
      @MrTyrone77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      In multiplayer melee has a very important role. They are the tanks that’s why endgame armor will make enemies target you

    • @shash._.
      @shash._. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      @@sovietmogus3263 damn you're so quirky and different

    • @everynameimakeiscringe2610
      @everynameimakeiscringe2610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Mixed: for those who can't decide (me)

  • @thegrazzies1747
    @thegrazzies1747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5363

    Terraria: 1.4 released*
    Melee class: hehe zenith go chop chop

    • @syn6109
      @syn6109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      fireworks are better

    • @syn6109
      @syn6109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cloin1955 ik but im just saying that fireworks are stil beter

    • @syn6109
      @syn6109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@cloin1955 this conversacion is irelivent to the coment

    • @gigedygigedyson5885
      @gigedygigedyson5885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@syn6109 You are irrelevant to this comment

    • @syn6109
      @syn6109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@gigedygigedyson5885 no u

  • @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593
    @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3325

    Another thing about the summon build: unless you're doing a class restriction challenge, nothing is stopping you from just blasting shit on your own with guns and putting on some gunner gear or security/agility items. That's the magical part of summoner, the minions kick a lot of ass but so can you.

    • @Ed-hc5iz
      @Ed-hc5iz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Indeed, I could imagine summoner doing crazy dps with using weapons her/himself.

    • @rogueangel72
      @rogueangel72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Unless you use calamity mod which prevents this

    • @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593
      @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      @@rogueangel72 solution: dont play sgitty deviantart mods :>

    • @stuffedanimalwars7692
      @stuffedanimalwars7692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      Calamity mod is good tho

    • @dannozzernosowski2197
      @dannozzernosowski2197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Stuffed Animal Wars It’s overrated, not a bad mod though.

  • @fudgie431
    @fudgie431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    0:55 Summoner
    5:50 Mage
    9:40 Ranger
    13:25 Melee

  • @squirrele4495
    @squirrele4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Just in terms of damage, everyone should summon and no one should be a summoner.
    But objective math cannot overcome my laziness and love of minion swarms

    • @unsubme2157
      @unsubme2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This

    • @Racky_TM
      @Racky_TM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol same

    • @Racky_TM
      @Racky_TM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw more dmg with terraprisma

    • @Scarrs9064
      @Scarrs9064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He built bad

  • @mxm23adregalusandmore62
    @mxm23adregalusandmore62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4316

    Maxed out Stardust Dragon truly melts moon lord
    *If only i could last more than 10 seconds*

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      *me who beat the game as a thrower* am i a joke to you?
      Lol buy rly i remember creating a stardust dragon that one shots expert destroyer, and kills expert ML in a few seconds, involves nebula armour, fishron mount, feral bite, buffs and a lot of accessories to reach a 2512 base damage stardust dragon. It hits for 2k - 3k damage in vanilla

    • @Kittycat7070-
      @Kittycat7070- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      It's also good against duke fishron, he dies because he pauses to transform to 2nd phase

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Kittycat7070- it also shreds thorium's final boss, Ragnarok (on expert mode) lol, i had to manually nerf last prism to make the fight fair by activating calamity... Either thorium buffs dying reality or, nerf last prism to calamity nerf levels.

    • @lackinggnat
      @lackinggnat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A cheap strategy that I use is a minecart track high in the world with a platform above it to stop the laser. It usually stretches from dungeon to jungle.

    • @riyoandrean288
      @riyoandrean288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just box yourself

  • @louiscarl7629
    @louiscarl7629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Fun fact, increased damage generally increases dps more than increased crit because of how defense works. Increased crit will always increase your damage output by the percentage of crit boast, but damage buffs can actually increase your dps more than the listed percent. Let's say you were playing in normal mode with all menacing accessories, using a weapon that has 100 base damage against an enemy with 40 defense, with no other boasts. 100 times 1.2 is 120, minus half the defense is 100. This means that the weapon is effectively dealing 100 average damage before crit with menacing as opposed to 80 damage without menacing. Instead of boasting your damage output by 20%, menacing has boasted your damage output by 25%.

    • @nuttyjoe
      @nuttyjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that not 20% as 80 is 20% less than 100% Might be stupid tho

    • @nuttyjoe
      @nuttyjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nvm im stupid

    • @explodingpineapple6459
      @explodingpineapple6459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think your maths is wrong. menacing I agree with is 100 average. lucky 20% crit means that 80% of the time it does 100 - 20 = 80 damage, and 20% of the time it does 100*2 - 20 = 180 damage. 0.8*80 + 0.2*180 = 100. they are the same regardless of defense, on average.

    • @ethanmallard5942
      @ethanmallard5942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@explodingpineapple6459 it's not (100*2)-20, its (100-20)*2. Original comment is correct.

    • @mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380
      @mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get a 100% crit chance in stealth mode with ranger. So although I lose damage for not using menacing my 100% crit chance overcompensates for the reduced damage. Regardless of the math I'm sticking with lucky for all my accessories.

  • @Vallite_God
    @Vallite_God ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I like how the Destoryer Emblem is being used on a summoner where crits don’t matter and you could have the Papyrus Scarab for yet another minion and even more damage.

    • @v2sauce
      @v2sauce ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i like how the destroyer emblem is used against the destroyer

    • @NotABirdd
      @NotABirdd ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ​@@v2sauce I used the destroyer to destroy the destroyer

    • @noahtyssen-ob8vs
      @noahtyssen-ob8vs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like how he did use the papyrus scroll

    • @Vallite_God
      @Vallite_God 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@noahtyssen-ob8vsPapyrus Scarab and Scroll are different things lol

    • @jacobcarrizales427
      @jacobcarrizales427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like how he prioritized dmg buffs over having 11 minions which is much better than some 10% damage boosts.

  • @purebluez6438
    @purebluez6438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Gungnir: But uh- Minions cant crit.
    1.4: My goals are beyond your understanding.

  • @dasaiyantv8483
    @dasaiyantv8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1456

    So Mage is best at Multi-Target DPS while Ranger is best Single-Target DPS.

    • @nosferatustg7675
      @nosferatustg7675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Just got to keep in mind ranger cant move very well for it to get the chunky damage,unless ya got pther players attracting the monster you will almost never use the armor bonis

    • @dasaiyantv8483
      @dasaiyantv8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@nosferatustg7675 That's why you take out an item for Frostspark Boots and use an asphalt arena. That's what a friend of mine does and it worked out amazing for him.

    • @peterdelfino7327
      @peterdelfino7327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DaSaiyanTV but the ranger armor set goes away if you fly so if we are talking endgame moon lord it’s almost impossible to dodge in stealth mode

    • @dasaiyantv8483
      @dasaiyantv8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@oldbananajoe I feel using slime statues or others for invincibility is cheap, for any class really. It's like using the nurse for a boss fight.

    • @egoravdeev670
      @egoravdeev670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nosferatustg7675 every class can move well? lmao

  • @alexrussell1182
    @alexrussell1182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2675

    0/10 didn't show throwing class.

    • @GazTen
      @GazTen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@rapidkraken2638 dude

    • @pizzaparker__0072
      @pizzaparker__0072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      RapidKraken bruh

    • @rapidkraken2638
      @rapidkraken2638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      okay stop

    • @hawkz3613
      @hawkz3613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@rapidkraken2638 someone beat moon lord with it, that means it's a class for me

    • @yo_imarat8189
      @yo_imarat8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      RapidKraken Even though you can beat the game as a thrower therefore making it a main class. It’s just one that no one focuses on

  • @shadowplague4274
    @shadowplague4274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Gungnir: uses necromantic scroll and hercules beetle
    Me: *laughs in papyrus scarab*

    • @fishncat1773
      @fishncat1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know I don’t think he really knows about summoner very much…. HE ALSO FORGOT TERRAPRISMA AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @RigosGuardian
      @RigosGuardian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fishncat1773 Terraprimsa wasn't in the game when he did the video tho
      I would really like to see an updated version of the video, with Zenith, Terraprisma and stuff

    • @yamiyoutube9924
      @yamiyoutube9924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment gives me undertale vibes

    • @shadowplague4274
      @shadowplague4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yamiyoutube9924 Because of the *_papyrus_*

  • @ragingbullgames1489
    @ragingbullgames1489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1126

    I kinda want to see a “class maximum damage with class weakest weapon” like mage with the wand of sparking or summoner with the Finch staff

    • @alphanightfury1416
      @alphanightfury1416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Probably 20 damage more?

    • @ytc4071
      @ytc4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@alphanightfury1416 well for summoner it would deal more damage since it can summon many at one time. For melee with lawnmower, dont ask me, just search up you'll find it completely useless lol. For ranger i guess flare gun, well at least it's still much better than lawnmower lol. For mage, with wand of sparking you can finally deal some damage.
      dont ask me i never tested it, it's all only pure theoritical

    • @alphanightfury1416
      @alphanightfury1416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ytc4071makes sense

    • @genericname4206
      @genericname4206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *B r o k e n C o p p e r S h o r t s w o r d*

    • @jerickopanlen
      @jerickopanlen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericname4206 maybe now it deals 20 damage

  • @lucasborges5757
    @lucasborges5757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +859

    I think you could have increased the summoning damage by equipping accessories like the papyrus scarab after removing the avenger emblem, destroyer emblem, and celestial shell to increase the maximum number of minions/ segments of the stardust dragon

    • @Gungnir_
      @Gungnir_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      Yeah, I think you're right, I haven't tested it yet but it probably would increase the damage by a decent amount.

    • @majiktowst210
      @majiktowst210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Now the real question is would the different segments have different damage due to the equipping/unequipping of the damage increases.
      Or would it change all of them.

    • @dasaiyantv8483
      @dasaiyantv8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      So Summon beats Melee? Damn.

    • @louiscarl7629
      @louiscarl7629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      If you do this and use nebula buffs for summoner, the dragon can deal 1200 damage.

    • @albuspercivalwulfricbriand5363
      @albuspercivalwulfricbriand5363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      MajikTowst Yes. Indeed, each segment of the dragon counts as separate summon, so it is possible to have a very big dragon, while each segment having different damage. In fact, it is better to equip accessories with the highest damage possible, summon the amount that Stardust set + potion + bewitching table allows, them switch to summoning items one at the time and summon the rest. That will be the highest damage possible on summoner.

  • @marucanah_8915
    @marucanah_8915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Here's the thing about summoner.. everyone knows it doesn't quite make the level that magic or melee makes now in 1.4 but what I feel like people gotta realize is if you pair a summon like terraprisma or stardust dragon (stardust armor of course and summoner accessories) with using a zenith on the dummies too, the dpm will be absolutely insane

  • @parsogross8887
    @parsogross8887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    “So what’s your class in terraria”
    Me: “yes”

  • @BlackEndFlame1334
    @BlackEndFlame1334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1153

    Stardust armor
    Gives you a beefy dude who stands behind you
    *stardust crusaders*

    • @waterhose216
      @waterhose216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      The head looks like the worlds head

    • @waterhose216
      @waterhose216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@spamsterraria now that was epic

    • @Z0inks.
      @Z0inks. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      So glad someone saw the Jojo comparison

    • @shekelsnatcher8504
      @shekelsnatcher8504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Fun fact: The armour was never intended to be a jojo reference. One of the devs said it was actually a WoW reference.

    • @Z0inks.
      @Z0inks. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@shekelsnatcher8504 that's awesome dude but what exactly from WoW?

  • @sagecoregd
    @sagecoregd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    7:19 dude just used autotune lmao

  • @Merp998
    @Merp998 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These are some of my favorite terraria videos, so much nostalgia

  • @gunstru
    @gunstru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just wanna mention that with the yo-yo testing unless I missed it it didn’t look like you had the yoyo bag on and it actually plays a lot into yo-yo dmg especially with terrarian as the 2nd yo-yo from the bag also has its own homing projectiles and quite literally doubles the dps of any yo-yo and is far greater than say a celestial stone especially after the update to make the stone and shell not stack anymore :) but it’s nice to see someone give yo-yo so love it’s honestly underrated and the easiest to boost dps as that 1 accessory doubles it and the rest can be put into more mobility/Tank items

  • @KraljHD
    @KraljHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +594

    >Bashes low summoner dmg
    >Doesn't use specialised summoner accessories and doesn't use a single sentry
    Excuse me?

    • @HeavenlyDemonicKid
      @HeavenlyDemonicKid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      And even then, summoner still did the same damage on a single dummy as melee did. AND he didn't even use any weapon on the character

    • @Zevox90
      @Zevox90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Right? I like to go for max minion count first!

    • @coolcow5193
      @coolcow5193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      You can't exactly call yourself an endgame summoner without the papyrus scarab. smh

    • @David_McCoy
      @David_McCoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Also mage was unfair bc not only was the crab setup unpractical, he was using a raven staff, which is not fair at all even though it wasn’t on the dummies

    • @cd2069
      @cd2069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Whips ;-;

  • @majiktowst210
    @majiktowst210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    You are absolutely right, statistically speaking, about the lucky v. menacing matter. They are identical (given enough trials).
    With a single menacing item, the expected value of damage is, well, 104% of the original.
    With one lucky item, the expected value can be taken as the sum of all outcomes multiplied by their respective probabilities.
    Thus...
    (96% of the time x 100% damage) + (4% of the time x 200% damage) = (.96 x 1) + (.04 x 2) = 104%

    • @tatsuyaaaaaa
      @tatsuyaaaaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What about the weapon's base crit damage/crit boosts from other sources? Is that taken into account?

    • @andreauscolon
      @andreauscolon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tatsuyaaaaaa No because the weapon crit chance is a constant between both i think. If a weapon has a 25% chance to crit the only difference between menacing and lucky is the 4% chance.

    • @tatsuyaaaaaa
      @tatsuyaaaaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andreauscolon Oh yeah. Thanks.

    • @kellerborch5424
      @kellerborch5424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This is incorrect since you have a base percent chance to crit. This causes the calculations to be slightly different. Since most weapons have a chance of 4%, I will use this for my calculations. With lucky, you add 4%(.04) to the multiplier of base damage. However, with Menacing, you must multiply by 4% or 1.04 times 1.04 (Base damage because of the 4 percent base crit chance) which gives you 1.0816, compared to 1.08 with lucky. This may seem like a small difference, however, with a higher base crit, such as with many late-game weapons and with more damage multiplier, it can really make a difference.

    • @lukavandijk
      @lukavandijk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because of how enemy defence works, enemies with high defence will take more dps from lucky reforges. An enemy with 50 defense and 100 will have 25 damage reduction, if you have a weapon that deals 75 damage and crits will be able to one-shot, whilst a weapon with 20 percent more damage will not. This hugely increases damage and dps on high defense targets, like in the late game.

  • @sethsimon3079
    @sethsimon3079 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The defense and technique with the melee rework in 1.4.4 makes it amazing.

  • @alpaca3776
    @alpaca3776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Calamity players: *laughs in casual 2 million dps*

  • @tannerhancock5841
    @tannerhancock5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +703

    Try redoing this with the new 1.4 update, especially since the Melee class gets the Zenith and the Summoner class also gets whips so more damage can be tacked on

  • @Gungnir_
    @Gungnir_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    There are a few things I’d like to mention here as I feel like a lot of you will have questions about these things.
    **CORRECTIONS**
    Summoner:
    Use Papyrus Scarab instead of Destroyer Emblem.
    You can also summon the minions with max damage gear on, and then switch to gear that adds minion slots afterwards (because the summon should retain the original damage it was summoned with), Summoner should be able to get a massive boost in damage by doing this.
    First of all, technically feral bite could have been applied to every class, but I didn’t want to include it because of how much of a hassle it would be to maintain the buff for the other classes.
    Nebula attack boosters could have also been used for the other classes, however, it involves switching armor sets every few seconds so I decided not to include it.
    Lastly, the shrimpy truffle could have been used for the melee loadout, but you lose out on 2% extra crit, 5% extra melee damage, and 5% extra melee speed in exchange for the 15% damage. I tested this with and without the mount and found that Meowmere doesn’t see much of a change in damage either way, but the Terrarian and Solar Eruption found damage boosts (+200-300).
    Let me know if there are ways to better any of the loadouts, I'll do my best to update this comment to include any of the changes that I may have missed.

    • @zodiacc3532
      @zodiacc3532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can make your classes even stronger if you put prefixes on your armor (menacing+12%dmg) not alot but you can put any prefix on any armor or vanity and the only prefixes you can use are the ones accessories have. I have a class with 130 base defence and like 70% damage reduction or something crazy like that. And that's without any potions or npc buffs

    • @zodiacc3532
      @zodiacc3532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone on pc wants to see what I'm talking about add me on discord
      @Ɔ҉Ɔ҉∀҉I҉p҉O҉Z҉/҉S҉S҉Ǝ҉˥҉ɹ҉∀҉Ɔ҉S҉#9212

    • @Gungnir_
      @Gungnir_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnsonvo7533 The loadout I used had 100% crit with the sdmg as well. With the Phantasm it was just shy of 100%.

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TY for putting this out Gungnir, im so tired of correcting melee players who think solar armour is better for damage than beetle armour, to them i say, 'if your aim is good you can do more damage with beetle armour'

    • @ams2627
      @ams2627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gungnir I like to use the last prism but I’m bad at mage so In my mage loadout I use mana flower instead of celestial shelll(it’s not max damage but I still think it’s good for mage loadouts)
      Edit: it’s because you can’t always use a crab box during a boss fight where you move a lot

  • @diegotorres8023
    @diegotorres8023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Summoner: being last at single target
    Terraprism:Hold my bear!

  • @kittycat-qi6cd
    @kittycat-qi6cd ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i would absolutely love to see a 1.4.4 on this

  • @convergent1800
    @convergent1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    Although keep in mind that with a summoner class, you can use another weapon at the same time

    • @kaiit10
      @kaiit10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not anymore with the new whips

    • @checkems.
      @checkems. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@kaiit10 I mean you can just whip and then switch weapons? Or even then some whips are pretty decent

    • @zerotext782
      @zerotext782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Kaleidoscope go BrrRrRrrrRrRRrrrRRR

    • @HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar
      @HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Zenith + summoner

    • @krustylesponge6250
      @krustylesponge6250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar this is known as “ultra death”

  • @jrchjybng3505
    @jrchjybng3505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    7:18 bruh, just sounded like a robot? wtf?

    • @suggestiveprincess
      @suggestiveprincess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Spoiler alert: He is

    • @aAnipperoni
      @aAnipperoni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      gungnir is actually T-pain

    • @HllwCrcs
      @HllwCrcs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ジェリコ jrchjybng HiTBዐ᥊

    • @karbonatedfebreze4967
      @karbonatedfebreze4967 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does jrchjybng mean. The katakana is Jericho so what does the second part mean.

    • @kaurii_3586
      @kaurii_3586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mic glitch

  • @SUCCSUKE
    @SUCCSUKE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Now that’s a lot of damage!” -flex tape guy

  • @luisnovo3776
    @luisnovo3776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Using summoner loadout, after summoning the dragon you can swap sumoner and avenger emblem for pigmy neclake and papyrus scrab to get 2 extra miniom slots and increase even more the damage of the dragon

  • @wizardflower6399
    @wizardflower6399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +622

    You forgot about the throwing class, everyone knows it’s does the most damage and has the best selection of upgrades

    • @Hazel-xl8in
      @Hazel-xl8in 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Wizard Flower not the bees!!!

    • @luckersofbad7935
      @luckersofbad7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True but now It Just part of the ranged class

    • @regulargiga4178
      @regulargiga4178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *2 sets of armor that are good for it*
      *best selection of upgrades

    • @HOmar-sx3tj
      @HOmar-sx3tj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wizard Flower sure buddy

    • @craig7405
      @craig7405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HOmar-sx3tj bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

  • @moxusgaming6404
    @moxusgaming6404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Nice vid. Note though, that ranged single target crown probably belongs to the coin gun with platinum coins. For those claiming it's unfeasible to have enough of plat, - this is not true. All you need is a good farm. In single player, you can reach 50+ plat per hour, while in multiplayer I was able to break 100/hr. That means that leaving your farm running for a single day will easily net over 1k. I usually leave my farm running overnight and get an extra 1k by morning. That is way easier than farming luminite or chlorophyte for SDMG. I'm yet to run out of plat, having at least 20k+ any given day. Oh, and you can easily switch from offensive to regen/tank gear, so that you don't die even in Expert and never lose your coins.

    • @pleaseputmedown7641
      @pleaseputmedown7641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Just duplicate the coins

    • @ginichimaru001
      @ginichimaru001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      In a legitimate way, you can use leprechaun plus uneven surface to cause it to jump and drop cash constantly

    • @konohakiller1235
      @konohakiller1235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Duplication bug:allow me to introduce myself

    • @mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380
      @mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I dont know what mega farm you use but I can clock in 9 plat per hour at most from my farm.

    • @itzsquishy3712
      @itzsquishy3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dick is incredibly tiny and I'm an idiot, but is the greedy coin or the coin ring and set up a jungle above water at an ocean with platforms and a slime, prevent the slime from leaving said platform, and leave it

  • @themurph2042
    @themurph2042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can combine the scroll and beetle on the summoner class setup freeing up a slot for more damage

  • @jaknowwho
    @jaknowwho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video man! I've done back to this one, in hopes that you might redo this format in light of the new 1.4 update. Has there been any changes to the top spot in these classes?

  • @IamDrDapper
    @IamDrDapper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +617

    "Mage has best damage"
    laughs in zenith

    • @m.arnold9145
      @m.arnold9145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Smilezone how?

    • @irgndtyp6764
      @irgndtyp6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Smilezone How and why

    • @m.arnold9145
      @m.arnold9145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Smilezone no I'm not kidding. I'm new to the game I'm genuinely curious

    • @irgndtyp6764
      @irgndtyp6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @Smilezone bruh melee had the worst damage from the 4 classes it needed a stronger weapon and since it came in the last update ofc it's going to be ultra op

    • @bruhsauce644
      @bruhsauce644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Bruh Moment
      zenith doesnt use mana so it isnt mage, not ranged cause it doesnt consume projectiles, not summoner cause doesnt deal summon damage.

  • @ToonTatto
    @ToonTatto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    7:18 auto tune voice crack

    • @ivotcomer3183
      @ivotcomer3183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Bruh true

    • @Dan4_9
      @Dan4_9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Was waiting for someone to point out lmao😭

    • @siensukong2663
      @siensukong2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol

    • @cassiofbs
      @cassiofbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what this means?

    • @swagmastuh69
      @swagmastuh69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cassiofbs it means he had a voice crack and it sounded autotuned

  • @citolapram
    @citolapram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder, if you summoned one dragon with the first buffs, and then took accessories off and summoned the rest, would the rest of the dragon have the same damage buffs?

  • @williammartiniv5418
    @williammartiniv5418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the summoner that armor also give buffs to sentry and if you add the lunar century it becomes absolutely crazy

  • @jimmic3955
    @jimmic3955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    In the melee you could have used the star wrath. Its projectiles can deal 500 damage Whithout having the beat gear.

    • @chandy518
      @chandy518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you watched the video you would've seen that A: This is a very late-game test and using an early game weapon would not be fitting, and B: He already does tons of damage even without projectiles

    • @tableprinterdoor
      @tableprinterdoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Chandy 57
      star wrath isn’t early game, you’re getting confused with the star fury

    • @chandy518
      @chandy518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@tableprinterdoor ah sorry, I thought they did a typo or whatever, my apologies for being so ignorant

    • @joaoman1139
      @joaoman1139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chandy518 star wrath its the sword that drop from moon lord that make rain stars

    • @chandy518
      @chandy518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joaoman1139 I know now, there is no need to correct me if I have already been corrected lol

  • @Zerum69
    @Zerum69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Unless you're playing calamity or other mods that give a summoner nerf, you're supposed to use other weapons on top of your minions

    • @Horde1Blades
      @Horde1Blades 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait, what do you mean calamity mod gives summoners a damage nerf?

    • @Zerum69
      @Zerum69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Horde1Blades after you defeat certain key progression bosses summons get a % of their dmg reduced when not holding a summoner staff or a classless dmg less tool (rod of discord and fishing rods comes to mind)
      In the early game where your summons do jack shit you can use ranger or mage weapons to compensate like in vanilla, but in the late game when you have mega accurate and high damage summons it'd be a little unfair if you could mix 5 yharon babies with Gael's sword

    • @Horde1Blades
      @Horde1Blades 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zerum69 I see. thank you for the explanation

    • @lorenzojongste6766
      @lorenzojongste6766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Horde1Blades
      As a calamity its been reworked a bit.
      Before you'd lose all damage if you don't hold a summon weapon. To 95% about reduction.
      This has been changed due to angry players and just...well summoner was no more fun. He changed it. To 40% reduc. So you keep 60%
      Even though they said its punishing in endgame. Later summons ignore i frames soooooo.

  • @owboi339
    @owboi339 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i would love to see a calamity version of this and it would be cool if there was pre hard mode hardmode and post moon lord

  • @KanyeDidntdoanythingwronghecoo
    @KanyeDidntdoanythingwronghecoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The buff from the “Dark Harvest” whip buffing attack speed might be able to push melee damage

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The fact that Stardust Dragon looks like a Stand is behind you, and you put menacing on all your weapons, makes me really happy.

    • @justa9560
      @justa9560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for enlightening me on the menacing part

    • @davisdoesgames6815
      @davisdoesgames6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Abdus-Sami Sheikh both, stardust guardian is star platinum and stardust dragon is heirophant green.

  • @czyko
    @czyko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    When the destroyer spawns, the whole worm spawns in a coil, and then unravels from that point.
    The startdust dragon went straight for that coil and hit so many more segments at once.
    This CAN be done with Melee, attacking the coil with solar eruption would yield similar results as summoner

    • @noobishace2411
      @noobishace2411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't summoner do more damage? Stardust dragon has higher base damage, let's say both classes hit all the segments at once, stardust dragon just needs to 'sit' at the coil and move back and forth to do damage, while Solar Eruption, whenever swing, will go outside the coil and have less opportunity to deal damage. IDK, correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @dustytoyknife2343
      @dustytoyknife2343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noobishace2411 solar eruption dont have the highest dps tho...

    • @marioboglione2342
      @marioboglione2342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meowmere would be better because the nyan cats pierce the destroyer

    • @e1357
      @e1357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dustytoyknife2343 Solar eruption would pierce all of those segments multiple times very quickly as it extends and retracts, Fetid Baghnakhs can do a similar effect but it isn't feasible to do it as reliably as most of the Destroyer would have uncoiled by the time you got into position.
      Last Prism, pre-firing, could kill Destroyer instantly, as in, it spawns, and is dead a few frames later.

    • @ViinTBH
      @ViinTBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star wrath is good for doing this, because you can hit the coil as long as it’s on screen so you don’t have to move into position and I’m pretty sure the stars can pierce

  • @mxri2019
    @mxri2019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I think is a little important to mention. Always go lucky as a ranger with the S.D.M.G please... it’s the more consistent set cause you can easily get to a flat 100% critrate

  • @steambot3000
    @steambot3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be cool to see this updated!

  • @kaprych6241
    @kaprych6241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Zenith: *exists*
    Mage class: "My time has come."

    • @Matthew-nt1rc
      @Matthew-nt1rc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I got my zenith to go up to 200k dps with like 10 dummies and no potions

    • @kaprych6241
      @kaprych6241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wonder how much dps can you possibly get with buffs.

    • @prime3887
      @prime3887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthew what armor?

    • @Matthew-nt1rc
      @Matthew-nt1rc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prime I did it on master mode with solar flare armor, and I had the celestial shell, destroyer, warrior, and avenger emblems, as well as the fire gauntlet and mechanical glove. ps, it had to be night time to get the full dps because of the celestial shell.

    • @marioboglione2342
      @marioboglione2342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why mage class? Its melee

  • @BenCarnage
    @BenCarnage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    What a lot of people leave out when testing summoner is the benefit of either focusing on movement or using another weapon to dish out additional damage. After snapshotting your summon, you can adapt your loadout to get a reasonable portion of the dmg. You can apply ichor to further boost dmg for example. The stationary minions, while kinda crappy, can also be helpful.

  • @JasonS05
    @JasonS05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd really love to see you redo this series (and maybe add more videos, e.g. max speed, crits, etc.) now that Journey's End has been out for quite some time.

  • @somerandomfinn668
    @somerandomfinn668 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I actually had to look into this, and the Zenith seems to have been added literally 1 month after this video. Maybe someone at ReLogic took melee being last place a bit personally

  • @domingolira2328
    @domingolira2328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Melee: 4th place
    Zenith: hold my wrath potions

    • @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest
      @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      hold my outdated video where zenith wasn't a thing

    • @swagmastuh69
      @swagmastuh69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nato what?

    • @gorilla1086
      @gorilla1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nato yea same

    • @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest
      @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swagmastuh69 it's portuguese. i understand it perfectly.

    • @enzzzo1914
      @enzzzo1914 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tells a story that when you use Zenith you become hungry and want to eat dick

  • @bountyhuntah96
    @bountyhuntah96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You also have to take into account that summoning will also be using a weapon on top of the stardust dragon.

  • @ghostfacekiller1115
    @ghostfacekiller1115 ปีที่แล้ว

    The advanced target dummy mod is amazing for accurate dps like with the vortex bow arrows on real enemies

  • @Apricity.mp4
    @Apricity.mp4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are super helpful, thanks

  • @Tyrian3k
    @Tyrian3k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    With the Stardust Dragon you also have to consider that its damage goes up with how many segments it has, so sometimes going for more summons can be better than going for more damage.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    Now that 1.4’s released, this video has aged like a carton of milk left out under the sun in a desert. Zenith, with the right setup, (Solar helmet and chest, Valhalla knight greaves, fire gauntlet, mechanical glove, warrior emblem, avenger emblem, destroyer emblem, celestial shell, putrid scent [All with the menacing reforge with the exception of putrid scent which should have lucky], any tipsy buff, feral bite, wrath, rage, ichor imbue, exquisitely stuffed, and sharpened) is capable of 2 million DPS, can kill master moon lord in 13 seconds, and can kill all of the hardmode bosses simultaneously.
    Yeah no, warrior’s balanced, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • @jimjon1609
      @jimjon1609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      this comment is gold

    • @xaveur.aa1
      @xaveur.aa1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Yo you forgot to make the normal boring Zenith into a Legendary Zenith.

    • @gabrielhenson5751
      @gabrielhenson5751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Excuse me????? And i thought 30k dps was good.

    • @myproflileisme580
      @myproflileisme580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But that's to much work

    • @yes6612
      @yes6612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@myproflileisme580 if that’s too much work,
      that’s not t e r r a r i a

  • @calcutt4
    @calcutt4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My endgame setup is Vortex Armour, sniper rifle (for single targets and PvP), tactical shotgun (for common enemies) both with high velocity bullets, Snowman cannon and Celebration MK 2 for crowd control and SDMG with Chlorophyte bullets for bosses.
    I usually play ranged because it has good single target damage and crowd control, second highest defence and a wide range of weapon types (bows, guns, launchers, flamethrowers etc.)

  • @theepic1944
    @theepic1944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Zenith: Allow me to introduce myself.

  • @MiloWildfire
    @MiloWildfire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Me: **Replaces a damage accesory from mage layout for ankh shield**
    My mage character: You removed all of my damage. Now I won't deal any

    • @Joe-es4ke
      @Joe-es4ke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      this man just used the last prism without a mage flower. i am disgusted

    • @daniellujan2840
      @daniellujan2840 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can use grappling hook for knockback immunity to grapple on a block, no need to replace an accessory

    • @MiloWildfire
      @MiloWildfire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@daniellujan2840 But then you're basically becoming an immovable puching bag

    • @letsdigit9096
      @letsdigit9096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daniellujan2840 THANK THE GODS TOOK 10 MINS TO SCROLL DOWN AND FIND SOMEONE TO SAY SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO SAY JUST USE A HOOK DAMNIT

    • @letsdigit9096
      @letsdigit9096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MiloWildfire but you kill them faster and i would suppose you wont die by a boss with infinite mana and last prism

  • @tripleB60
    @tripleB60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think the stardust dragon got on top of the destroyers spawn point where it’s segments are all stacks causing it to do way more damage that usual

    • @felixlehrman1112
      @felixlehrman1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ur right, he didnt recognize that and therefore gave summoner too much credit compared to melee which didnt hit the stacked segments

    • @lorrdy7640
      @lorrdy7640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's still better.

  • @talon-orp5786
    @talon-orp5786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you have to keep in mind that summoner can still use a weapon at the same time adding some extra damage

  • @khoitong8131
    @khoitong8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm I noticed that extra minion spots provide more damage then just adding damage cause the extra minion does damage by itself which makes up to it so I would say the better summoner load out would be Hercules Beatle summoner emblem pygymy necklace necromatic scroll papyrus scarab then either celestial shell or destroyer or emblem then summoner potion and the rest of the stuff

  • @warlockwizzy3934
    @warlockwizzy3934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thing about mage: you need that wonky contraption to hold a continuous stream of damage.

    • @sreethanenjem8439
      @sreethanenjem8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      hold my mana flower and 10 stacks of mana potions

    • @gusmeiozueiro7095
      @gusmeiozueiro7095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thing about summoner: you dont even attack
      As this is 1.3 i can say no to whips

    • @too_s1mple705
      @too_s1mple705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gusmeiozueiro7095 that's why it's so fun you get to sit back and watch

    • @clip3844
      @clip3844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@too_s1mple705 I too play terraria to not play terraria

    • @benji2495
      @benji2495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Mage gets mana sickness up to -100% damage*

  • @dethdukk
    @dethdukk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I believe that holy arrows will heavily outdps luminite arrows. Also, melee will do much better multitarget damage with a meowmere/starwrath than with the solar eruption, as they do significantly more damage and still pierce. The eruption is great for shooting through walls, and against invasions (if you haven't set up a meowmere specific arena), but against things like the destroyer the swords outclass it.

    • @omertark1651
      @omertark1651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Holy arrows aren't vetter than luminite bullets, both single and multiple targets.
      But it's best arrow pre-MoonLord

    • @explodingpineapple6459
      @explodingpineapple6459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@omertark1651 actually neither of you are right, as they both have some element of piercing which I like is what OP was getting at, piercing gives invulnerability and blah blah reduces dps I'm not going to go into the science of it. you want an arrow that does no piercing

    • @mahidalfaraz6047
      @mahidalfaraz6047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@explodingpineapple6459 yeah piercint arrows deal with invulnerability frames and that BS. Solar eruption while it pierces it "explodes" and deals damage in the I-frames

    • @omertark1651
      @omertark1651 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      my luminite arrows are broken then, when I shoot phantasm every arrow makes damage

    • @Beau_Silva
      @Beau_Silva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@explodingpineapple6459 lumitite ignores the i-frames rules other ammo types have

  • @Papa_Squwat
    @Papa_Squwat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to be a melee main back on Xbox when Orcram (How ever you spell it) was around and whatnot and when I got Xbox one waiting for Moonlord to release I was a melee all the way through got it on steam to be able to use Zenith and got that too but recently switched to Ranged and never have been happier not only is it no longer a pain to grind bec I don't need Zenith anymore It's just more fun and suiting to play melting every boss, I never realized how bored I was of Melee and how weak I really felt but this made it more clear than I had felt it

  • @Lukilliano
    @Lukilliano 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say that if you want max damage, you would also use 2 sentries and 3 minions in every case. Then summoning might get a buff since the loadout might improve sentry dmg, but a nerf since the other classes also have 3 minions (although without buffs)

  • @jokerwayne6358
    @jokerwayne6358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    The reason why melee dmg is the weakest is because its the tankiest

    • @Gungnir_
      @Gungnir_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Exactly, where it lacks in damage, it easily makes up for in survivability.

    • @jokerwayne6358
      @jokerwayne6358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Gungnir_ will we get 1.4 play through

    • @yeaman1358
      @yeaman1358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Wait till u see the zenith in 1.4 lmao my build isn’t even complete and it does 15k dps

    • @generalgrievous2165
      @generalgrievous2165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *laughs in zenith*

  • @trueblueflare
    @trueblueflare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    You really gotta do this again for 1.4, using things like The Zenith and The Terraprisma.

  • @edde2429
    @edde2429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're willing to sacrifice using your summoner weapon to target your minions you can gradually swap out your accessories for ones with more minion slots

  • @LyleLylefr
    @LyleLylefr ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, an fyi. The stardust dragon staff deals a lot of immunity frames, and IT WILL DECREASE your DPS during boss fights on any other class but summoner. If you are just doing things like building or mining, the stardust dragon and the terra prisma are the best summons to use, but I wouldn’t recommend using the stardust dragon during boss fights, especially Moonlord because of the constant immunity frames. This only applies to non summoner builds btw

  • @blool5192
    @blool5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You should've used luiafk or calamity/fargos mutant mods dummies, because they are considered a entity and everything works on them

  • @prod.antiihiiro
    @prod.antiihiiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    terraprisma comes out, stardust dragon, " am i a joke to you?"

    • @Cheshireowl
      @Cheshireowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually stardust dragon has more dps than terraprisma

    • @josiahperez5684
      @josiahperez5684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zenith comes out
      Other classes: am I a joke to you

  • @BongePob
    @BongePob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in 1.3 you could get +45% melee damage from a combination of armors, chlorophyte helmet, solar breastplate and hallowed leggings.

  • @traftonstakes1553
    @traftonstakes1553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonder if magic with spectre armor stacking constant damage like rainbow gun, clinger staff, toxic vile, running the queen slime blade summon, etc would out damage this

  • @arranroberts1463
    @arranroberts1463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Now that’s a lotta damage

  • @itzeazee1710
    @itzeazee1710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A quick note about Lucky vs Menacing: On average, they increase your damage by the exact same amount versus a target dummy., since dealing 4% extra damage 100% of the time and dealing 100% extra damage 4% of the time maths out to be the same. The reason Lucky is generally considered worse than Menacing is that the lucky crit damage applies AFTER armor, while Menacing applies before armor, so you end up getting a few extra damage per attack from using Menacing over Lucky.

    • @jimmybob5541
      @jimmybob5541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for explaining this in a way I could actually understand.

  • @BCubedus
    @BCubedus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gungnir: So for fourth place on multi target we have melee.
    Zenith sitting in a devs design process:
    *clears throat*

  • @Dovahkiinwastaken
    @Dovahkiinwastaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how at 7:18 when he says hit box, his voice hit's its own autotune note

  • @flopsnail4750
    @flopsnail4750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    23:57 if you aim the terrarian in front of the enemy, more of the bubbles will hit it, which exceeds the damage done if you actually try to directly hit the enemy itself with the terrarian, because most of the bubbles don't end up hitting the target. Rely on maximizing the homing bubbles for Max damage.

  • @diegoaguilar1954
    @diegoaguilar1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Wait did you forget about engineer class?
    The most broken class IMO

    • @phinehaskerr5672
      @phinehaskerr5672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Diego Aguilar genuinely the highest damage possible

    • @noahwesterberg8566
      @noahwesterberg8566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whats that?

    • @diegoaguilar1954
      @diegoaguilar1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Noah Westerberg its a “class” that i believe TMEC started, that consists on only using electronics and traps(rolling rock included) to kill bosses

    • @noahwesterberg8566
      @noahwesterberg8566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@diegoaguilar1954 thats good to know, thanks

    • @omertark1651
      @omertark1651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      boulder 999999999 dps

  • @snarffles5687
    @snarffles5687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finally beat the Moon Lord for the first time yesterday, it felt good.
    And then I went on my journey to acquire the rest of the Solar Armor, and the star wrath to complete the best sword!, thankfully the terraria yo-yo is very effective for fight moon lord. Only other weapons I used before was the terrablade because it didn’t miss so much like the meowmere, also if you have jars of honey, those are very helpful, trust me in this.
    Now with my armor, zenith, and my other equipment, I can finally farm the moon lord in seconds!!.
    Melee Class for the Win!.

  • @cooldawg5575
    @cooldawg5575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something a lot of people don’t realize is that mage has some field set weapons (nimbus rod and rainbow gun) and you automatically get a summon slot and they can be used by all classes, making everyone’s dps higher (hurts summoner class most but also helps mage the most.)

    • @fabio5286
      @fabio5286 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does the free summon helps mage the most?

  • @SeraphicViews
    @SeraphicViews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm pretty sure the Star Wrath has higher DPS than the Meowmere when used on bosses

    • @pavlekovacevic1676
      @pavlekovacevic1676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It has but he is not the men of culture like us

    • @syeph
      @syeph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100SubsWithNoVideos the rich kid that is only liked by other rich kids

    • @DonutMaster56
      @DonutMaster56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And daybreak is better than solar eruption for singular enemies. (Assuming the enemy doesn’t have segments.)

    • @SeraphicViews
      @SeraphicViews 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonutMaster56 The daybreak would theoretically have higher damage due to it's DOT on singular targets but in practice it's not effective, they only travel couple blocks before being affected by gravity.
      Let's calculate the theoretical damage.
      Starwrath
      Base Damage: 110
      Projectiles: 220
      Base theoretical damage: 330
      Use time: 16 (3.75x/s)
      Just the sword would have a theoretically DPS of 412.
      Velocity: 8 (shoots 3 projectiles per swing, 11 projectiles appear in a sec. Each projectile can hit a target in 16 ticks or 3.75 times a second (this might be wrong)).
      Theoretically every second 11 stars would hit a target with a DPS of 2,420.
      In total if you were to hit them with both the sword and projectile the
      DPS would be 2,832. The gamepedia says The DPS would be 1,200 on single targets.

    • @SeraphicViews
      @SeraphicViews 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonutMaster56 NVM I read that wrong

  • @neontyler6663
    @neontyler6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Melee class in 1.4
    Zenith: “where’s my copper sword?”

    • @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest
      @Imperio_Otomano_the_realest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *it's a tin world*

    • @Quick50
      @Quick50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Imperio_Otomano_the_realest o no
      good thing I kept my old copper shortsword

    • @zerotext782
      @zerotext782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First time crafting a zenith i forgot the copper sword in a tin world and i forgot it gives u a copper shortsword when u start the game **and thats when i wasted 5 fucking days seeing how to get a copper short sword**
      Now i never throw it away but somehow everytime i did for 9 TIMES

    • @therock2767
      @therock2767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Quick50 owh noo, anyway

    • @Cheshireowl
      @Cheshireowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Imperio_Otomano_the_realest *crates*

  • @duckmaster5591
    @duckmaster5591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on 300k subs

  • @marshmallow4685
    @marshmallow4685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has inspired me to play classes other than melee

  • @lowkeyfrog1234
    @lowkeyfrog1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This test would be so different for melee if zenith was released when this vid was recorded

  • @shadowjedi4602
    @shadowjedi4602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found for ranger that if you almost max out crit chance with accessories and put the rest on menacing you get even higher dps than only menacing

  • @damsen978
    @damsen978 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be the most practical max dmg? As in dealing the highest damage while moving during boss fights with a moderate level of accuracy to hit targets.

  • @epicgamervallon3457
    @epicgamervallon3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen people upset about lack of melee damage, but I'd say it's a fair tradeoff for more defense. Ranger having second most defense has reasonable damage, without having to trade a ton of defense. Mage of course is squishy, but makes up for it with crazy damage. Summoner is the most squishy with low damage, but the tradeoff is that the summoner can focus on dodging, and therefore last longer.

  • @sourdoughsama8679
    @sourdoughsama8679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I personally like to use a ranger setup with ranged armour but then also get some summons to help me out. Every little bit of damage helps so even if you’re not using summoner items, a summon can still really help you out.

    • @noahsheffler3672
      @noahsheffler3672 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only with ranger but with all

  • @Chritin
    @Chritin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Summoner is actually really op now with stardust dragon staff, simply because of the buff to the stardust guardian.

  • @Hello_World_not_taken
    @Hello_World_not_taken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the melee class became to most powerful once the zenith decided to exist

  • @stiffrod8322
    @stiffrod8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the summoning class, you could have made a papyrus scarab with the hercules beetle and the necromantic scroll. and then used the pygmy necklass with adds 1 minnion slot

  • @Etorate_
    @Etorate_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For this, (before Zenith), if you get the Power Glove, Mechanical Glove, and Flame Gauntlet, then the celestial shell, Warrior Emblem, and Destroyer Emblem, all readied, then you used the Legendary Felix Bahgnackas(idk how to spell) and used all the buffs you normally use with tipsy, you can probably get a higher DPS than the Meowmere, because of the short range though, there's no way to apply this set up for the Multi Target set-up