Remember sentries exist, even if you dont use dedicated armor you can still get three endgame sentry slots with wartable/stardust armor. Triple lunar portals do be juicy.
@@flipperjr.3822one of these days i was playing summoner with a friend and we were farming the Old Ones Army. Then suddenly he says he got the sentry buff station and i was like "The what"
Terraprism doesn't hit as often, from what I understand. There was a test in someone's video comparing. Stardust won. If you test it carefully, I would appreciate the result
FYI!!! If you want the maximum damage setup from minions, you should have three slots used by the stardust dragon and the rest should be terraprisma. The stardust dragon has a unique damage scaling graph because it is only powered up by adding more of it instead of you having multiple dragons, and past the third use, it is not optimal
@@aurastrike On my 'getfixedboi' Legendary Mode Run, Empress of Light has only Nighttime effects, so I couldn't get the Terraprisma. I used: Deadly Sphere Staff, then Xeno Staff, then 6 Stardust Cells and 3 Stardust Dragon charges. It worked great.
You forgot about sentries. Adding one sentry for free and a second one with the war table lets you add even more damage, and if you sacrifice an emblem slot you can add a squire’s shield or something similar to increase sentry slots
Summoning has always been one of my favorite parts of Terraria. I love how you break down and say exactly what items you need to maximize your damage. Definitely makes it a bleeze instead of having to research it all.
i miss the glitch from ps3 where you'd bind the vortex beater to a button whilst using the stardust dragon staff and it'd create an infinite amount of the dragon heads
Idk what's up with people hating on sock just bc he makes a vid bimonthly that is a little similar to terrasteels. Terrasteel makes theoretical videos most of the time, while socks makes, for the most part, weapon reviews. Dumbass lil shits. Learn to love both sides of the spectrum you braindead pigs
This. This is how I killed the Day Empress on master. Pump as much damage as possible into myself with the witch's broom for mobility. If I can't dodge enough, I'll just have to kill her before I hit that point
there's quite a lot you can actually do with whip stacking that you may have missed, although the kaleidoscope is very powerful giving your minions plus 20 damage and a 10% to crit (yes ignoring minions normality of not critting), and the firecracker is very powerful as it allows your minions to deal 2.75x damage for one hit (although this more helps with things that attack slowly), using a berserkers glove/fire gauntlet, you could theoretically whip stack a dark harvest, dundrael, snapthorn and firecracker giving you an absolute insane melee speed boost for consistent and fast 2.75x multipliers and possibly allowing you to basically multiply your minion damage by 2.75x entirely when attacking that fast. *sad not 3x because nerf :(* the morning star is also a great whip as though it does deal less damage and provide 8 less summon tag damage, it does support with +5% crit chance but this could be good as it Stacks (i think*). as said in another comment, you also did seem to not use sentries, however they definitely do help, especially when using the stardust helmet vahalla chest and red riding leggings. I never really compared moon lord sentry drops, but both of them seem to be very good (i have mostly seen people saying lunar portal better though). Finally theres minion mixing, this is much more for practical use and is way more difficult to calculate. Generally i have found from others that stardust dragon seems to work best with 3 summons and then can be complimented with terraprisma/stardust cell staff, however the xeno staff also seems to be quite good for it having the best AI to deal with mobs (altough that might be for more pre ml cases). And the destroyer emblem could possibly be replaced with squire shield or huntress belt or something similar (sentry mixing coming soon?) Terrasteel made a video on whip stacking that is explained better than me and attached a link for a comprehensive guide made by someone else: heres the video: th-cam.com/video/rQipQ_14UUA/w-d-xo.html heres the guide: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BOFcsgKl2gvc7IaFYKHusIQYlhtMj5bm Overall, i think you still made this video very well and what i said is to complicated and unnecessary. Great content!👍 oh also BLEEZE
You can boost the damage even more if you use smth known as whip stacking, where you rapidly swap between multiple whips to get their effects up at once. Using a swing of the Morning Star (12% critical strike chance), and then a swing of the Dark Harvest (increases whip speed temporarily), and then primarily using the Firecracker (only switching when you need to put the other buffs back on), you can achieve massive damage per hit which, when paired with a full dragon's already high damage, absolutely surpasses the +20 summon tag damage & +10 percent crit chance that the Kaleidoscope could ever hope to provide.
The Destroyer emblem can be replaced and a Innkeeper attachment can be added, you increase summoner damage by 10% and your dps increased with the use of turrets
This guy really did completely forget about his 3 sentry slots (1 base sentry + 1 sentry from stardust armor + 1 sentry from the war table from Old One's Army giving an additional slot similarly to the Bewitching Table) , kinda disappointing that he missed 33% of summoner damage, especially against groups and wave based events.
Stardust dragon has diminishing returns after the first summon, i think the best setup is two stardust dragon summons with the rest being Terraprisma. I could be wrong though.
4:08 As much as i love this Class Nothing can really beat Zenith at all in terms of damage, Last Prism can if you’ve set up a Mappy Farm for “certain events”. Tho thats going a bit too overkill on setting up for it. Not just that Zenith is part of the “Safest class” as well, being a Tank yet doing more “reliable and easiest” way to do damage compared to a Glass Canon.
Summoner is my favourite class, I would definitely recommend doing a summoner playthrough! If you’re up for it, I also recommend doing the Old One’s Army
The thing is, it could be better. Pigmy necles for another summonslot, whips gain meele buffs so ubgrading the avenger emblem to the fire gauntlet is good as well.
I understand the love for the stardust dragon, A typhoon dragon build (basically a summoner/mage build with like a 70%/30% split who uses a 4-5 slot stardust dragon and razorblade typhoon) was the 2nd thing I ever took out moon lord with. Keep in mind I haven't played unmodded Terraria for more than an hour or two in probably 6-9 years, so my numbers might be off on how many slots I had on my Dragon, but it was something like that. ANYWAY, the whole reason I brought this up is to say that IMO the coolest summon in the base game is the Terraprisma. Realistically I think it's potentially LESS powerful than a couple of other summons like SDD, but IMO it should be buffed to keep up with the likes of Zenith and Last Prism. Especially given the difficulty to obtain, it should maybe have a whip that has a tag specifically for Terraprisma only. Maybe little prismatic daggers could appear from the prism blades when they target a tagged enemy, increasing their overall damage by 25-50% (whichever works better in balancing, I don't keep up with regular game numbers anymore because it's too hard to remember)
I still prefer to use summons as supplemental damage to whatever else i'm doing. Using a few more if I'm just mining. Whips don't really do it for me, especially filling up my hotbar with whips.
Jist an extras sentries also count as summoner dmg You can also combine whips to increase the tag like crazy and evem the attack speed buff some of the whips big
Nah, I treat my minions very well. I just sell them to NPCs when I'm done with them. It's not slavery, unless you consider Artificial Narrow Intelligences coded to uncoordinatedly attack random nearby targets that also are ANIs 'slaves'. As a Summoner, nothing can really stop me now. I beat my 'fortheworthy' Legendary Mode Run as a Summoner without issues, besides WoF, yet I had twice as many deaths on my Classic Mode Mage Run.
Melee summoner hybrid with zenith is absolutely nuts, I run 3 terraprisma with zenith both at like 300 damage in the stat screen with a tank setup of all things, I can kill get fixed boi master mode moonlord in seconds and still face tank him
Here's how to do that: Enter "fortheworthy" as a Seed for a new world. Set difficulty to Master. Enter the Dungeon before defeating Skeletron. The Dungeon Guardian will do 3996 Damage. Or... Do the same, but instead fight the Daytime Empress of Light. You will take 47996 damage, average.
With updates idk if you can summon with damage and swap the gear like before or if the minion damage no longer gets locked in. Also endgame I always use Valhalla knight set with 6 lunar portals, buff was broken
unrelated topic, I am not understanding why people say the solar pillar is the most difficult pillar, I mean they're all frustrating, but the solar pillar was the easiest one for me to deal with.
It’s funny I’ve got like 600 hours and have played pc terraria for like 2 years and I did my first summoner play through only recently, it was also the only time I’ve managed it kill the moon lord right after the pillars
So I’ve done a good bit of research on this and your actually off on quite a few things. The damage of the stardust dragon scales intensely with slots, and as such an extra slot beats a damage buff almost every time; the pigmy necklace is better than the Hercules beetle for instance. Second, and more egregiously, your whip choice is wayyy off. You should be using the firecracker. It has a huge multiplicative damage bonus to the next summon hit after each whip hit, which vastly outpaces the damage of any other whip. In fact, the summoner class benefits more heavily from bonuses to melee speed than directly to summon damage. Also the flask of Ichor deserves an honorable mention because on any enemy with defense it provides a considerable bump in damage because of the sheer hit rate of the stardust dragon
I play master mode so even thought I love summoner how are you meant to be queen bee or the worm/the brain with either two finch/a slime/vampire frog/ghost and a leather whip. Every buff in the world doesn’t make it easier enough (you need shadow scales/tissue samples for obsidian armor and queen bee for the bee armor and maybe hornet staff)
This build is good but is this really the maximum damage achievable? I thought Terraprisma + whip stacking was better (and also those accessories and potions, even better if you use Duke fishing mount on rain)
So folks! Which has been your fav max setup so far?
abigail
Max Magic damage, prolly cuz Mage is my favourite class out of the four
This one cus it’s gone help me in my solo summoner playthogh
This one
Max melee speed is so satisfying
Remember sentries exist, even if you dont use dedicated armor you can still get three endgame sentry slots with wartable/stardust armor. Triple lunar portals do be juicy.
Don’t forget you can use the war table for one more slot and you could sacrifice the destroyer emblem for an OOA accessory and then have 5 portals
@@anonymousanonymous4574 he aready mentioned the war table
i didn't even know you could interact with the war table
@@flipperjr.3822one of these days i was playing summoner with a friend and we were farming the Old Ones Army. Then suddenly he says he got the sentry buff station and i was like "The what"
@@flipperjr.3822 They added that in the latest update.
Summoner is my favorite class! It's good that the Stardust Dragon still has powerful uses compared to Terraprisma.
The terraprisma feels underpowered compared to it though
summoner is great because you cant be annoyed by enemies if they never get to you
Terraprism doesn't hit as often, from what I understand. There was a test in someone's video comparing. Stardust won.
If you test it carefully, I would appreciate the result
@I_EatKids mostly the range
@@davidburnett5049bro terraria a has slightly more dps and is easier to get
FYI!!! If you want the maximum damage setup from minions, you should have three slots used by the stardust dragon and the rest should be terraprisma. The stardust dragon has a unique damage scaling graph because it is only powered up by adding more of it instead of you having multiple dragons, and past the third use, it is not optimal
Exactly. Although I just use 10 Terraprismas. The Stardust Dragon just leaves me to die more often than not.
Pretty sure you should also use the stardust cell staff cus of the debuff
D,s,reé3ee 4:22 1@@fincali197
@@fincali197 Two cells is enough to have the debuff applied forever, so using two slots on that will work amazing
@@aurastrike On my 'getfixedboi' Legendary Mode Run, Empress of Light has only Nighttime effects, so I couldn't get the Terraprisma. I used: Deadly Sphere Staff, then Xeno Staff, then 6 Stardust Cells and 3 Stardust Dragon charges. It worked great.
The build aspect is truly one of the mamy things that make terraria special
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Whips also work with flasks, so you can use an ichor flask to reduce the mob defenses through debuffs.
Summoner whip stacking it's fun, since all the whips apply tag damage, if you time it right you can hit some ridiculous DPS.
You forgot about sentries. Adding one sentry for free and a second one with the war table lets you add even more damage, and if you sacrifice an emblem slot you can add a squire’s shield or something similar to increase sentry slots
and the squire sheild gives summon damage :)
Summoning has always been one of my favorite parts of Terraria. I love how you break down and say exactly what items you need to maximize your damage. Definitely makes it a bleeze instead of having to research it all.
Such a bleeze
Summoner as always been my fav class, glad to see it getting love for 1.4.5
i miss the glitch from ps3 where you'd bind the vortex beater to a button whilst using the stardust dragon staff and it'd create an infinite amount of the dragon heads
You are better off just stacking dark harvest and then just using firecracker as your main whip
eh sock isn't really good at the game he just makes content, i thought you'd know him stealing from terrasteel. Shyguymask is the best summoner info
@@xaryop7950 based
Idk what's up with people hating on sock just bc he makes a vid bimonthly that is a little similar to terrasteels. Terrasteel makes theoretical videos most of the time, while socks makes, for the most part, weapon reviews. Dumbass lil shits.
Learn to love both sides of the spectrum you braindead pigs
Doesn’t kaleidoscope allow summons to crit which would provide higher damage output
@@xaryop7950wasnt that like 2-3 months ago? and didnt sock apologize for that
Can't wait for the stardust whip next update you should do a video about it
This. This is how I killed the Day Empress on master. Pump as much damage as possible into myself with the witch's broom for mobility. If I can't dodge enough, I'll just have to kill her before I hit that point
there's quite a lot you can actually do with whip stacking that you may have missed,
although the kaleidoscope is very powerful giving your minions plus 20 damage and a 10% to crit (yes ignoring minions normality of not critting), and the firecracker is very powerful as it allows your minions to deal 2.75x damage for one hit (although this more helps with things that attack slowly), using a berserkers glove/fire gauntlet, you could theoretically whip stack a dark harvest, dundrael, snapthorn and firecracker giving you an absolute insane melee speed boost for consistent and fast 2.75x multipliers and possibly allowing you to basically multiply your minion damage by 2.75x entirely when attacking that fast.
*sad not 3x because nerf :(*
the morning star is also a great whip as though it does deal less damage and provide 8 less summon tag damage, it does support with +5% crit chance but this could be good as it Stacks (i think*).
as said in another comment, you also did seem to not use sentries, however they definitely do help, especially when using the stardust helmet vahalla chest and red riding leggings. I never really compared moon lord sentry drops, but both of them seem to be very good (i have mostly seen people saying lunar portal better though).
Finally theres minion mixing, this is much more for practical use and is way more difficult to calculate. Generally i have found from others that stardust dragon seems to work best with 3 summons and then can be complimented with terraprisma/stardust cell staff, however the xeno staff also seems to be quite good for it having the best AI to deal with mobs (altough that might be for more pre ml cases). And the destroyer emblem could possibly be replaced with squire shield or huntress belt or something similar (sentry mixing coming soon?)
Terrasteel made a video on whip stacking that is explained better than me and attached a link for a comprehensive guide made by someone else:
heres the video:
th-cam.com/video/rQipQ_14UUA/w-d-xo.html
heres the guide:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BOFcsgKl2gvc7IaFYKHusIQYlhtMj5bm
Overall, i think you still made this video very well and what i said is to complicated and unnecessary. Great content!👍
oh also BLEEZE
The terraria goat
Duck
Love your videos keep up the hard work❤
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You can boost the damage even more if you use smth known as whip stacking, where you rapidly swap between multiple whips to get their effects up at once. Using a swing of the Morning Star (12% critical strike chance), and then a swing of the Dark Harvest (increases whip speed temporarily), and then primarily using the Firecracker (only switching when you need to put the other buffs back on), you can achieve massive damage per hit which, when paired with a full dragon's already high damage, absolutely surpasses the +20 summon tag damage & +10 percent crit chance that the Kaleidoscope could ever hope to provide.
Maximum stealth, like putrid scent and stealth mode watch enemies walk right past you
+ summoning potions, buff stations, and sentries
3:09*boss 2 starts playing*
Stardust dragon:FEAR ME FOR I'M THE REAL BOSS
If only this had come out before I finished my Summoner Playthrough,
I would love to see maximum mining speed! It’d be awesome to see you dig through the whole world in minutes!
Mining speed is capped at 1 hit per frame because terraria runs at 60 fps
@@League_of_Willump I didn’t know that, but I do still think it’d be cool if he made a shirt on it showing all the accessories and items needed
@@League_of_Willumpincorrect it's not frames it's tps(ticks per second) you were right on the number tho
@@Browncow287all you need is shroomite digging claw and cake or 70% mining speed buff
New idea maximum velocity I want a bullet going the speed of skeletron when I turns day
My favorite class, often shafted by some of the more popular mods.
If you haven't already, a video about the djinn's curse would be cool.
The Destroyer emblem can be replaced and a Innkeeper attachment can be added, you increase summoner damage by 10% and your dps increased with the use of turrets
waited for this thanks man
This guy really did completely forget about his 3 sentry slots (1 base sentry + 1 sentry from stardust armor + 1 sentry from the war table from Old One's Army giving an additional slot similarly to the Bewitching Table) , kinda disappointing that he missed 33% of summoner damage, especially against groups and wave based events.
this is the reason i play summoner
I love using the tiny pirate minions and saying GET EM BOYS, ROUGH EM UP, WALLOP EM RIGHT IN THA KISSA!
Good video, beating moonlord should be a bleeze
This man is a legend always providing us with epic content .huge respect.
Stardust dragon has diminishing returns after the first summon, i think the best setup is two stardust dragon summons with the rest being Terraprisma. I could be wrong though.
_Maybe the real Summon Damage is all the friends we made along the way._
this channel is criminally underrated
You need to post a playlist about this series
Crazy? I was crazy once. But fr keep cranking out these bangers sock!
You can right click while holding a whip or summon weapon to set the targeting of the dragon for moon lord's eyes
Summoner is my favourite class because of pre hardmode to max your damage you need to mix your minions for the highest dps
Absolute Bleeze
glad to finally see the max summon damage as its my fav class
4:08 As much as i love this Class Nothing can really beat Zenith at all in terms of damage, Last Prism can if you’ve set up a Mappy Farm for “certain events”. Tho thats going a bit too overkill on setting up for it.
Not just that Zenith is part of the “Safest class” as well, being a Tank yet doing more “reliable and easiest” way to do damage compared to a Glass Canon.
I've never done a summoner playthrough, after watching this I think I might try it
Summoner is my favourite class, I would definitely recommend doing a summoner playthrough!
If you’re up for it, I also recommend doing the Old One’s Army
The thing is, it could be better. Pigmy necles for another summonslot, whips gain meele buffs so ubgrading the avenger emblem to the fire gauntlet is good as well.
I understand the love for the stardust dragon, A typhoon dragon build (basically a summoner/mage build with like a 70%/30% split who uses a 4-5 slot stardust dragon and razorblade typhoon) was the 2nd thing I ever took out moon lord with.
Keep in mind I haven't played unmodded Terraria for more than an hour or two in probably 6-9 years, so my numbers might be off on how many slots I had on my Dragon, but it was something like that.
ANYWAY, the whole reason I brought this up is to say that IMO the coolest summon in the base game is the Terraprisma. Realistically I think it's potentially LESS powerful than a couple of other summons like SDD, but IMO it should be buffed to keep up with the likes of Zenith and Last Prism. Especially given the difficulty to obtain, it should maybe have a whip that has a tag specifically for Terraprisma only. Maybe little prismatic daggers could appear from the prism blades when they target a tagged enemy, increasing their overall damage by 25-50% (whichever works better in balancing, I don't keep up with regular game numbers anymore because it's too hard to remember)
Summoner is my 2nd favorite class in the game due to its over the top glass cannon playstyle.
The rainbow crystal staff on a target that is not moving and is on top of the crystals would do way more damage.
Thank you for making this for me! (I play as a console summoner)
I love the start dust dragon but I usually go 2 sanguine bats and the rest of slots to dragon it helps with faster mobs
Technically there is more overall damage obtainsble by like you said whips stacking but also by using sentries.
I still prefer to use summons as supplemental damage to whatever else i'm doing. Using a few more if I'm just mining. Whips don't really do it for me, especially filling up my hotbar with whips.
Mining buddies are pretty handy uses for these as a nonsummoner. Especially the things that can attack through walls or at least from a distance.
Such FUN!!!!! ty Socks!
I'm pretty sure you can add sentries and even mounts that deal summon damage to increase it a little more.
Can't wait for maximum jump height (not inculding wings or double jumps)
Thank you for making this video ❤
Jist an extras sentries also count as summoner dmg
You can also combine whips to increase the tag like crazy and evem the attack speed buff some of the whips big
I think the only boss stardust dragon is better than would be destroyer but I could be wrong
Suggestion for the next video: Max weapon size
If you use kaleidoscope or mourning star summons can crit so rage potions are still use full.
I had a dream that I had 20 summons and they were shredding through everything. I should play summoner in my next terraria playthrough
Expect a wild Shyguymask to appear if you didnt calculate it right, he can smell it from a mile away
The slavery class is looking more fun now…
😂
That's not how summoning works, or atleast in most fictions.
@@ppbutnotbig6236 close enough
Nah, I treat my minions very well. I just sell them to NPCs when I'm done with them. It's not slavery, unless you consider Artificial Narrow Intelligences coded to uncoordinatedly attack random nearby targets that also are ANIs 'slaves'.
As a Summoner, nothing can really stop me now. I beat my 'fortheworthy' Legendary Mode Run as a Summoner without issues, besides WoF, yet I had twice as many deaths on my Classic Mode Mage Run.
😅
Favorite class hands down, probably the hardest but easily the most fun imo 🔥
With Post-ML summoner gear, you can reach 20k+ damage in a single target.
Can we have max summons
I recommend using that twins summon to get the most
Melee summoner hybrid with zenith is absolutely nuts, I run 3 terraprisma with zenith both at like 300 damage in the stat screen with a tank setup of all things, I can kill get fixed boi master mode moonlord in seconds and still face tank him
me with a full summoner loadout, *its time*
Can you review all the old ones army weapons you have not already?
Max debuff setup?
Being torn apart between trying summoner now or waiting for 1.4.5 for the new whips.
As A Summoner, I Can Confirm This Was A Helpful Video!
Can you do a max enemy damage it would be fun to see how to get one shot
Here's how to do that: Enter "fortheworthy" as a Seed for a new world. Set difficulty to Master. Enter the Dungeon before defeating Skeletron. The Dungeon Guardian will do 3996 Damage. Or... Do the same, but instead fight the Daytime Empress of Light. You will take 47996 damage, average.
"Bleeze" certainly made me wheeze
With updates idk if you can summon with damage and swap the gear like before or if the minion damage no longer gets locked in.
Also endgame I always use Valhalla knight set with 6 lunar portals, buff was broken
Finally, Summon Gang gets its time to shine.
Attempt 3 at attempting for max tankiness (dodge, defense, damage reduction)
All hail lemon
I was looking for a video like this
Love this guy's spirit.
One way in which summoner is unique is that none of the game’s classes have any real excuse not to use a summon.
unrelated topic, I am not understanding why people say the solar pillar is the most difficult pillar, I mean they're all frustrating, but the solar pillar was the easiest one for me to deal with.
Didnt even include sentries
I still have to do a summoner playthrough ^^
This Is Crazyyy
It’s funny I’ve got like 600 hours and have played pc terraria for like 2 years and I did my first summoner play through only recently, it was also the only time I’ve managed it kill the moon lord right after the pillars
6 rainbow crystal sentries lead to some absolutely obscene damage
So I’ve done a good bit of research on this and your actually off on quite a few things. The damage of the stardust dragon scales intensely with slots, and as such an extra slot beats a damage buff almost every time; the pigmy necklace is better than the Hercules beetle for instance. Second, and more egregiously, your whip choice is wayyy off. You should be using the firecracker. It has a huge multiplicative damage bonus to the next summon hit after each whip hit, which vastly outpaces the damage of any other whip. In fact, the summoner class benefits more heavily from bonuses to melee speed than directly to summon damage. Also the flask of Ichor deserves an honorable mention because on any enemy with defense it provides a considerable bump in damage because of the sheer hit rate of the stardust dragon
I love the duck and the duck loves me
🦆
you can also use a fire flask for burn damage >:)
Summoner is such a weird class tbh, your set from early hardmode could be your only set until you fight plantera
I really thought the terraprisma would take the cake on this one.🤔
I'm stuck in pre mech phase with summoner. I just get one-shot even with buffs. Never had a more miserable time with a class
Idea! Do this for modded if you run out in vanilla?
what i dont understand is why not just use zenith rather than whip, surely that will net more dps
Isn't summoner able to uniquely benefit from the feral bite debuff for extra damage, too?
Since you did minions in particular, is there going to be one for sentries specifically?
bros doing the TRUE sentry playthrough 😩🔥🔥🫡
can you do this same series but with calamity next?
I play master mode so even thought I love summoner how are you meant to be queen bee or the worm/the brain with either two finch/a slime/vampire frog/ghost and a leather whip.
Every buff in the world doesn’t make it easier enough (you need shadow scales/tissue samples for obsidian armor and queen bee for the bee armor and maybe hornet staff)
YES MY FAVORITE CLASS
This build is good but is this really the maximum damage achievable? I thought Terraprisma + whip stacking was better (and also those accessories and potions, even better if you use Duke fishing mount on rain)