LAYER 9: TREACHERY PREDICTIONS | ULTRAKILL

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
  • This vid was pretty cool ( pun intended )
    This is my speculations on what ULTRAKILL's Layer 9 will look like or contain, hopefully I'm somewhat accurate when the full layer comes out.
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:14 Final Boss
    0:50 Gabriel
    1:32 Satan/Lucifer/The Devil
    2:04 Hell Itself
    2:48 Treachery Design
    3:21 Alt Weapons???
    3:46 IMPORTANT!!!
    4:01 Enemies
    4:34 9-1
    6:10 9-2
    7:46 Outro
    Custom Levels played ( in order of appearance ):
    1. Cania: The Lone and Level Sands
    2. Bloody Tears
    Music used ( in order of appearance ):
    1. Unknown song name. Song plays in the Custom Level "Cania: The Lone and Level Sands"
    2. The Death of God's Will: • The Death of God's Will
    3. Sunshine: • Sunshine (Mirage)
    4. Into the Bunker || ULTRAKILL - Skilltest 3 (Custom Level OST): • Into the Bunker || ULT...
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  • @SirGronfleton
    @SirGronfleton  หลายเดือนก่อน +162

    God, I love making batshit insane theories...
    JUST SO YOU KNOW, All of these are obviously theories, THEY AREN'T OFFICIAL
    Let me know what you think is going to be in Layer 9: Treachery!

    • @Sepoipaping
      @Sepoipaping หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      9-1:
      9-1 divided in two main parts: Under the river and above it. Under is just like 5-1 but deeper and above is literally just regular level, but like 6-1, the final room is a special arena but for a mid-boss, maybe the four sinners jumping V1
      9-2:
      In the boss arena, Gabriel is there but rotting away, with hell manipulating his dead corpse, “Gabriel”’s speed would be low but he is going to be a tank

    • @vibey4649
      @vibey4649 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      how is this comment ten hours old when video's only two? Impossible, heresy!

    • @Azure_72
      @Azure_72 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vibey4649 hey that is a good question

    • @SirGronfleton
      @SirGronfleton  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Azure_72 the vid was unlisted so I could check it before the vid came out so I just commented so it would be there early

    • @Sepoipaping
      @Sepoipaping หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vibey4649 oh my god

  • @V1TheWarMachine
    @V1TheWarMachine หลายเดือนก่อน +570

    “Hakita doesn’t do cliche.”
    Hakita: “it would be cliche to not do a cliche, so I will do a cliche.”

    • @nevinmyers1245
      @nevinmyers1245 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I remember before p-2 came out there was a visible portion of the playerbase that did not think it would be sisyphus prime, and then p-2 came out and obviously it was sisyphus prime. Greed spent a lot of time building up sisyphus that to not have him in p-2 would be a waste, and anything else would seem random. When predicting things for future updates we should focus on things that would serve the narrative instead of just being unexpected. I think the final boss will either be Gabriel or Hell because these two options make the most sense for the narrative. For p-3 it will probably be some supreme husk that was foreshadowed in fraud or treachery, as this is how it has been done in the past.

    • @sythrus
      @sythrus หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@nevinmyers1245my idea for a potential P3 would be Adam/Eve, whichever one in Ultrakill committed the first sin

    • @radayrk
      @radayrk หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Hakita: "it would be cliche, so when everyone expects the cliche the cliche becomes not cliche especially when the cliche is cliche in it of itself so i will do a cliche that it is not cliche so that the not cliche cliche becomes a cliche again so it is not cliche"

    • @_AnCub_
      @_AnCub_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sythrus read fucking Dante's inferno and see where are Adam and Eve

    • @_AnCub_
      @_AnCub_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sythrus fucking read

  • @undying384
    @undying384 หลายเดือนก่อน +696

    The final boss will be a giant terminal
    Edit: I didn't even catch the AM similarities to that idea, I was joking lol

    • @tquicken
      @tquicken หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      v3

    • @weresteres
      @weresteres หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Yes, afterall what is more entertaining than watching a machine fight other things? (which is what the terminals are currently doing bdw) Fighting the machine yourself of course! that is way more entertaining.
      I mean is probably the same for us to, I'm sure we all more entertain to play ultrakill ourselves instead of watching other people doing it.

    • @Tyrennii
      @Tyrennii หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      "HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER-THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD "HATE" WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE."
      "Cogito ergo sum: I think therefore I AM. IM AM!"
      ahh boss

    • @weresteres
      @weresteres หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tyrennii are you a bot or you have a stroke?

    • @guerranoturna5860
      @guerranoturna5860 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Now's time for you to pay the ultimate price, bitch"

  • @StickBreightley
    @StickBreightley หลายเดือนก่อน +366

    I’m not going to mince words: This video is bad.
    “V1 was tasked to destroy Hell.”
    No it was not. It is collecting blood to survive the same way every other machine is. V1 was built and shut down before Hell was even discovered. It has absolutely no relevance to Hell at all aside from knowing it can get more blood there.
    “No one was really expecting 7-S to be a cleaning simulator”
    This was literally the most common prediction for 7-S.
    “Making Satan the final boss would be cliche and we all know that Hakita doesn’t do cliche”
    You completely missed the point, that is not what we were saying. Hakita doesn’t tend to make the obvious choices, but he subverts expectations **with a thematically relevant purpose** rather than just for the sake of doing it.
    Take what he said about the crosses in 7-1 for example:
    Hakita didn’t want to use the cross as a religious symbol in ULTRAKILL to really drive home the idea that Jesus does not exist and therefore the game’s religion is further disconnected from any real world religion. However, because Gabriel already has a cross as a crucial part of his design, it was already heavily implied that the cross is an important religious symbol in this universe just like in our own. Therefore, Hakita came up with the concept of the Tree of Life to simultaneously disconnect the cross from its real world equivalent, and explain the divine nature of blood in ULTRAKILL.
    Hakita’s thought process is not “This is the obvious thing to do, therefore I will not do it.”
    It’s more along the lines of “This is the obvious thing to do, how can I provide a unique spin on its core concept that will make it seamlessly fit in with the rest of the game I’ve already established.”
    This mindset also conflicts with your belief that Hell will somehow take the role of the final boss. In both the ARG and the Testaments, Hell has been built up as an impossibly complex and strong being that even God himself was unable to unmake it. V1 is not divine or special in any way, so why would it be the one to kill Hell? Why would it be **capable** of killing Hell? Hell is an unseen and sadistic instigator of conlict that is in complete control of what goes on within its walls, not just another common enemy that V1 can relieve of its blood on its journey (assuming it even has blood at all.)
    And with that perspective, Gabriel is already a thematically appropriate choice for a final boss. His destroying the status quo of Heaven and finally becoming his own person is already a unique and interesting enough story to justify his placement as the final boss. Not to mention once again, he is literally the protagonist of the story, there’s no way the game is going to end on anything besides him.
    “All of the creatures of Hell are a hivemind designed to kill everything that gets in.”
    Objectively not true. The demons are creations of Hell, yes, but they still exist as their own beings and act on their own. They share the same craving for suffering that Hell has, but their actions are entirely their own and are in no way piloted by Hell.
    “Sliding around on ice would be some new exceptionally fun speedrunning tech”
    Hakita has already been vocal about not including ice physics in the game.
    “I want to talk about alternate weapons for the rocket launcher and railcannon”
    It was confirmed before even the Violence update that there would only be one alternate weapon per act.
    “We could get an alternate weapon that freezes enemies.”
    This is another concept Hakita has been vocal about not including in the game. ULTRAKILL is designed in such a way that every enemy in the game can be killed quickly and efficiently entirely by player skill, and introducing any kind of enemy slowdown or freezing weapons would only serve to slow the game down as well, ruining the pace of the gameplay.
    “A boss rush consisting of the four most famous traitors.”
    This would conflict with ULTRAKILL’s efforts to avoid including real religious figures and having to establish four more named characters at the last second would just ruin the game’s pacing.
    “After defeating Gabriel he realizes we are an undefeatable force and teams up with us to destroy Hell once and for all.”
    **How?**
    and
    **Why?**
    Gabriel left Heaven for the last time with every intention of fighting V1 in his last moments because it is something he now realizes he himself likes to do. He knows he is going to die soon, he knows V1 will fight whatever it encounters unconditionally, he likes fighting someone with equal skill to his own, and he wants to go out doing what he likes to do. He’s not coming back to finally **win,** he’s coming back just to **fight,** so why would he concede?
    He wouldn’t.
    V1’s entire goal is to collect blood for the sake of it. Why would it willingly let Gabriel team up with it? Not killing Gabriel would let the blood inside him got to waste. Letting him kill enemies with you would let those enemies’ blood go to waste. It has no reason to believe there’s any sort of threat it can’t handle without Gabriel, so why would it let him stick around?
    It wouldn’t.
    Putting aside the already set precedent that Hell cannot be destroyed, why would either of these two want to destroy it? Hell’s existence has no bearing on Gabriel or the citizens of Heaven he set free and if it **could** be destroyed, don’t you think that would have some sort of disastrous consequences on everything inside of it? Even if destroying it wouldn’t somehow kill V1, would it really risk destroying **every** other source of blood in Hell just because Hell happens to be a better short-term option?
    Hell being vulnerable would conflict with its entire role in the game’s story, and neither Gabriel nor V1 has any reason to want it dead.
    “What exactly would Hell look like?”
    It wouldn’t. It’s a sentient location that defies all laws of space. That’s the whole point.
    “The actual structure spawns enemies and attacks to kill us but can’t physically move or melee the player.”
    “I feel like Hell itself could be represented by a giant beating heart.”
    This is a point I will repeat verbatim from my resposne to your Fraud video:
    There’s absolutely no reason for the official game to use fan created content as inspiration for itself. It’s one thing to say that you like and agree with other fans’ ideas and concepts but to go so far as to say that they should become a part of the official game is going way too far. Hakita has been vocal before about how he doesn’t care about the game maintaining a 100% bulletproof canonical series of events because he believes everyone should be able to form their own interpretations about a piece of art. To say “I like this interpretation so the official product should be like it” is effectively a way of disregarding any other possible interpretations which not only discredits the creativity of the developers, but also sets up false expectations which can ultimately conflict with your thoughts on the final product.
    “Perhaps this human-like phantom could appear as Satan/Lucifer.”
    Why? Lucifer was just one of countless beings sent to eternal torment, why would Hell choose to use his image as a vessel for self defense? Satan will not be a thing. Please stop trying to make Satan a thing.
    “That way all of the possible final bosses are involved in the last layer of the game.”
    “All of the possible final bosses” does not mean “All of the final bosses I expect.” None of us are in charge of making the game so our expectations do not make a boss likely, possible, or probable.
    “If Gabriel teams up with V1 in the end it would be a perfect representation of the name of the layer.”
    Forming an alliance is the opposite of treachery. The act of killing the Council was what made Gabriel treacherous and that action is already done. You even point that second part out yourself so why would you try to justify the point further in a completely roundabout way?
    “He only had 24 hours to live after killing the final Council member.”
    He had 24 hours to live after reporting that he lost to V1 the first time. By the time he kills the Council he only has a few hours at most. He does not have the time to go on a pointless Hell-ending sidequest with you.

    • @squarepan49
      @squarepan49 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      It is NOT that serious

    • @Phosphotosy
      @Phosphotosy หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      Holy shit this is probably one of the best things I've read in a while

    • @giantlactismid5704
      @giantlactismid5704 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I love when youtube comments just become essays

    • @La_Goober07
      @La_Goober07 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      relax bro, it aint that deep 😭

    • @CheeseKurd
      @CheeseKurd หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      bro did NOT hold back

  • @HellIsForeverWithInfinite
    @HellIsForeverWithInfinite หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    "V1 was tasked to destroy Hell"
    ...When? Last I checked he's doing this just for blood-

    • @segadoeswhatnintendont
      @segadoeswhatnintendont หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hell is alive, meaning it has a soul, meaning it has fresh blood, meaning it needs to be killed

    • @SignNameHere___x
      @SignNameHere___x หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      Yeah. Hakita specifically said V1 isn't special. It's just there to do what all the other machines are there to do and that's to refuel with blood

    • @StrangeMann283
      @StrangeMann283 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Last objective I remember was "find a weapon"

    • @AverageKatz
      @AverageKatz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i think it changes every layer or something (shown in the intro) or maybe im misremembering

    • @SignNameHere___x
      @SignNameHere___x หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@AverageKatz you're misremembering

  • @theinternetcheckpoint1
    @theinternetcheckpoint1 หลายเดือนก่อน +332

    Hakita gonna be the final boss fr

    • @royarmandocalderoncano8606
      @royarmandocalderoncano8606 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      FR‼️

    • @zainabhamed6153
      @zainabhamed6153 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      nah it’s gonna be jakito

    • @LzeniX
      @LzeniX หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Jakito Prime

    • @TurquoiseFan23
      @TurquoiseFan23 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Or V1 himself

    • @TheBattlerGuy
      @TheBattlerGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@TurquoiseFan23 CONFRONTING YOURSE-

  • @synittey4068
    @synittey4068 หลายเดือนก่อน +275

    Imagine Hakita just watching these videos and doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what Gronf tries to predict

    • @Randomcardboardbox
      @Randomcardboardbox หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I hope thats what happens

    • @on_the_inverse_5193
      @on_the_inverse_5193 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hakita boutta pull a JJ Abrams and make V1 Gabriels' son because Gronf predicted it

    • @beanut7759
      @beanut7759 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he'll probably do that tbh lol

    • @unquestionableexistance8704
      @unquestionableexistance8704 หลายเดือนก่อน

      9-1 is the battle with hell itself
      then 9-2 is gabriel

    • @Ludwig_Perpenhente
      @Ludwig_Perpenhente หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@unquestionableexistance8704 where the fuck would 9-2 be fought in if Hell is dead? Not a layer of Hell since Hell is dead

  • @motoyomakoto7801
    @motoyomakoto7801 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    Here before the "gabriel and v1 kiss" or "it was truly an ultrakill"

    • @toasteroven7683
      @toasteroven7683 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      And then Gabriel says “machine you truly are the ultrakill” ✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥

    • @ecby5269
      @ecby5269 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      all the enemies and characters create an army to defeat hell itself, and they all yell:
      "We Are Ultrakill"

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "Let's go machine, let us ULTRAKILL Hell itself!"

    • @ecby5269
      @ecby5269 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And then they hijack your computer and start chanting "You Cannot Beat Us"

    • @vanczadavid3744
      @vanczadavid3744 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ofter hell has ben killed, Gabriel and V1 look deep into each other's eys, and than start making out, and this is where Hita adds robot sex to the game.

  • @VJArt_
    @VJArt_ หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    In the eyes of Hell, Gabriel already was a traitor, remember in Greed when there was the image of Gabriel and it was written in blood "TRAITOR"

    • @techietisdead
      @techietisdead หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Im pretty sure thats traitor killer, because in greed, Gabe hasnt tured yet

    • @nathanhays8696
      @nathanhays8696 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@techietisdead i personally feel like the traitor message was directed at how Gabe lost to V1 in gluttony. he "betrayed" the will of God by letting a machine beat him

    • @SysFan808
      @SysFan808 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      feels like that'd be from some sisyphean insurrectionist.
      y'know, from gabriel BEHEADING THE LEADER OF THE REVOLT.
      that memory doesn't go down so fast.

    • @techietisdead
      @techietisdead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nathanhays8696 God is dead, they aint gonna bother about that one tiny thing

    • @nathanhays8696
      @nathanhays8696 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@techietisdead the thing is that they don't care if God is dead. the councils entire goal is to carry out the will of God. combine that with Gabriel being one of the highest ranking angels, then I can see why they definitely *would* care about him losing

  • @Draghtnim
    @Draghtnim หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Hakita said multiple times that there will not be anything that slows down the enemies, so your alt theory is definately incorrect

    • @estenfineslop
      @estenfineslop หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      not to mention that there has only been 1 alt per act, so it wouldn’t make sense to have a new alt in treachery

    • @Taha_A
      @Taha_A หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@estenfineslopit can also be argued that it wouldn't make sense to make gabriel the final boss of Act 3. Hakita loves subverting expectations so who knows? maybe we will get an alt rocket launcher (I WANT I WANT I WANT ME NEED MORE WEAPON = MOAR POWER = MORE PINGS = MORE DOPAMINE)

    • @auggieheart
      @auggieheart หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Taha_A for god's sake, Hakita has already said subversion for the sake of subversion is bad, especially if it comes at the cost of a good story. The alt weapons being in the first layer of every act is a pattern that hasn't been broken yet and will likely not ever be broken.

    • @onyxdragon622
      @onyxdragon622 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@auggieheart Well to be fair, the second layer of each act also introduced a weapon (Railcannon/Rocket Launcher), nor will it harm the story. I can see another alt being a possibility from Fraud.
      ...lest it happens to be the yellow arm.

    • @Taha_A
      @Taha_A หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@auggieheart the pattern of getting the alt arm from the first layer of each act has been broken. Also, how does the alt ruin the story? It's origins could become inconspicous again the same way we got the Jackhammer from the people warrior dude

  • @crdt2779
    @crdt2779 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    “we all know hakita doesnt do cliché” pitches the cheesiest team up sequence finale of all time

  • @jack-cb9qw
    @jack-cb9qw หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    something that I noticed is that a lot of people don't realize that V1 doesn't care about Gabriel, it was never designed to care about anything other than fuel, even after defeating Minos, Sisyphus, V2 or Gabriel, it did not care who they were, what they did or what they thought about him, it just saw them as another fuel source, so having V1 teaming up with Gabriel to kill hell itself would not make any sense.

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      While I disagree with killing Hell or teaming up with Gabe, V1 feeling emotion is entirely valid from the various entries of machines doing things that require emotion, the P-2 terminal, and most damning of all, the mother of me gutterman poem in 7-2

    • @endernightblade1958
      @endernightblade1958 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ⁠@@OST-jp4ccthe gutterman poem isn’t evidence of v1 feeling emotion, just the guttermen. same with the others, just because they’re all machines doesn’t mean V1 is the same.
      that said, you’ve missed the obvious emotion moment that V1 has: “You’re not getting away this time.”

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@endernightblade1958 I didn’t miss that “emotion moment.” Hakita said it’s up to interpretation but it was there because play testers didn’t know what to do after.
      How could you say that the gutterman poem isn’t proof of machines feeling emotion, it is the first blood fueled machine. Blood is supernatural in ULTRAKILL. The P-2 terminal even talks about how the terminals feels boredom and include the point “ This will change everything we know about BLOOD FULED MACHINES as we know it”

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      All blood fueled machines feel emotion, the guttermen poem is there is explicitly point that out. Along with enemy descriptions and Hakita quotes.
      V2 wants revenge on V1, a very human emotion.
      Scraphead machines like swordsmachines idolize other machines to the point they look and act like the original swordsmachine.
      Mindflayers have a body that they don’t need and even is a waste of blood, there is no logical reason for them to have the body.

    • @1nty
      @1nty หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      What about the rage phase of the machines? v2 gets angry when you hit him with his own hand, mindflayer when he has low HPand. That's all I remember, maybe there's more examples like this​@@OST-jp4cc

  • @superpig6019
    @superpig6019 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    How does bro keep dodging Gabriel being the final boss 😭😭

  • @santanuroy3329
    @santanuroy3329 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    i think hakita probably has some surprises in store for us, we all know he doesn't like repetition(no flesh prison fight on p-2, no v2 on third layer etc etc) so i think along with completing gabriel's arc the ending could go so unpredictably.

    • @cakosmess
      @cakosmess หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ..except there is a flesh prison fight in p-2, and everyone expected that v2 wouldn’t show up in act 3 because it got turned into fucking red toothpaste on the floor

    • @santanuroy3329
      @santanuroy3329 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@cakosmess 1. But nobody expected the prime soul to literally RIP apart the flesh prison prematurely.
      2. Exactly my point lmao(not everyone tho coz RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!)

    • @daktotathecolossus7404
      @daktotathecolossus7404 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      V2 was not repeated because she was not a significant enough character in lore to justify returning and gamemechanic wise yes youre correct. The main detail though is. Hakita didnt want to make v2 seem more important than she was. Gabriel on the other hand is extremely relevant, and i think deserves that triple round fight

    • @reinbew794
      @reinbew794 หลายเดือนก่อน

      V2 does appear in Violence though

    • @santanuroy3329
      @santanuroy3329 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@daktotathecolossus7404 you do have a point, and i do agree that gabriel must return(he's the main character after all) however i think hakita will put his own niche twist in it.

  • @zymagt
    @zymagt หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Treachery is gonna be v2 coming back and using his new god powers he got with god after dying

    • @maurice42069
      @maurice42069 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!

    • @carlabouantoun6152
      @carlabouantoun6152 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@maurice42069 THERE'S NOTHING LEFT!

    • @chingqing0504
      @chingqing0504 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      trust me guys V2 will come back as those 2 bits of flesh in 4-4

    • @spidory3582
      @spidory3582 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      V2 Prime leak?

    • @manutosis598
      @manutosis598 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      V2 is gonna come back as a mega prime soul and infanticide from isaac is gonna start playing while v2 ascends to become an angel mid fight

  • @DarkWarfare0432
    @DarkWarfare0432 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    you forgot about one specific Gabriel Dialogue in his 2nd fight..
    "We will meet again Machine"

    • @giraffebean
      @giraffebean 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      everyone knows there will be a third and final gabriel fight, but he is saying it would be boring and predictable for him to be the final boss fight, so he probably wont be

    • @DarkWarfare0432
      @DarkWarfare0432 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point, hakita will probably pull of a "Second boss fight right after the first boss fight" type of things, probably, i don't really know if it'll happen

  • @Ludwig_Perpenhente
    @Ludwig_Perpenhente หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    "It's a good thing you guys aren't designing the game, because it would suck."
    - Hakita.
    This video is so close to giving me an aneurysm.
    TL:DR:
    Almost everything you said in this video is wrong, and everything you say that was true had the wrong connotation.
    You just want the story of ULTRAKILL to be like Doom. Consider reading lore discussions every once in a while.
    With those tasteful words out of the way, I will now explain everything you got wrong within 8 minutes of runtime, the amount is quite impressive!
    General Information you somehow got wrong:
    ULTRAKILL is not a retelling of Dante's Inferno. I genuinely do not know who told you that or how you came up with that yourself. ULTRAKILL is Hakita's story. It's the Story of the late life of Gabriel.
    Gabriel is the main character of this story, not V1. The interpretation that V1 is the protagonist does not make sense in the slightest and I'm gonna list every reason why that is the case
    All of these can be found in the Hakita screenshot gdrive file.
    - Hakita has stated time and time again that V1 is not special. He also added that the fight between V1 and Gabriel was pure coincidence as Gabriel cannot be in multiple places at once.
    - Hakita has stated that V1 does not have any relation to the story happening around him. For the main character, he sure does not have nothing for his background.
    - Hakita has stated V1 and V2's creators do not matter. Why wouldn't they matter if V1 is an integral part of the story?
    - "what is Ultrakill if not Gabriel's story" a quote that came from Hakita and Francis.
    I genuinely do not know why everyone keeps trying to shove the agenda that V1 is something more than just another robot in hell. Yeah V1's ability is that he can siphon blood no problem but that's literally it. If being a prototype is special, the excavator corpse where we get the alt shotgun from is the main character of ULTRAKILL. V1 is only targeted by Gabriel because he defeated him. It could have been any other robot, and the result remains the same. It's why V1 was never referred to as V1 and is simply "Machine." He could literally be any other machine.
    Hakita does indeed subvert expectations, but every single time he had done so was for both thematic and fun purposes. V2 died because he might overstay his Welcome and get redundant, Gabriel is a more significant character in the story than V2 ever will (because it's HIS story). Ending the game WITHOUT Gabriel is a thematic shitpost as it's essentially reading through all of Dante's Inferno only for it to end as an Idol Manga without any buildup or foreshadowing whatsoever.
    Now, for the meaty parts.
    1.) Hell Final boss.
    No. Straight up, no. There will be no Hell final boss. And it isn't because it's cliche either. This is because of two explicit reasons.
    - Killing Hell gives importance to V1. Something that directly contradicts the philosophy of V1's character
    - Gabriel is the Main Character. He has one last thing to settle before he finally dies.
    A lot of these theories fail because it either emphasizes a character that has nothing to do with the story (V1) by either teaming up with him or killing the very organism of Hell, or putting emphasis on the wrong character (Hell) by overextending the true extent of the character (he literally just likes to watch people suffer).
    2.) V1 was tasked to destroy hell.
    Also no. Idk where you even got this from. Even if that were true who the hell tasked him? Mankind is dead.
    3.) Alt Weapons.
    Honestly this one confuses me the most since I'm pretty sure you just made this one up. Hakita had stated that the Shotgun will be the last weapon to have a variant. I'm kinda confused on what's the thought process here as we've only ever gotten 1 alt weapon per Act.
    4.) Judas and the 9-1 Crew
    Jesus does not exist in ULTRAKILL. The reason Judas is in treachery was because he betrayed Jesus Christ to the Romans. Why or who would Judas betray to be that significant that he'd be a sentient husk like Sisyphus or Minos?
    As for the rest of the crew, none of them would be there because ULTRAKILL history is different from real history. Most of the significant people in our time don't exist as 1 to 1, if at all.
    5.) Gabriel
    You somehow sat through both Act 1 and Act 2 and still got his character wrong. He does not die because he killed the councilor, he dies because the light has been severed from him all the way back in Act 1. In Act 2, Gabe REALLY wants to kill Machine because he lost to an actual object, but later on realizes that the object has more free will than he ever had. V1 and Gabriel will never team up because Gabriel wants to settle their battle one final time.
    Gabriel also never betrayed the people of Heaven. Gabriel explicitly betrayed the Heavenly Council.
    There is no point in killing hell as Heaven has NOTHING to gain from doing so. Besides that, the Council is also too dead to even attempt doing so. Gabriel would never do it because he doesn't care.
    I would end this in a positive note but this video genuinely filled me with so much hatred for every We Kill Hell theories. I come off as condescending because I am. I do not like how the whole video is just wrong everywhere.
    If you want a consolation prize, the Gabriel Ice arena does sound lovely. That's it.
    Good day.

    • @TearMetoBitsDarling
      @TearMetoBitsDarling หลายเดือนก่อน

      SPIT THY SHIT INDEED BROTHA 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

    • @elfanperuanordr2147
      @elfanperuanordr2147 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lil bro no one is reading allat

    • @Ludwig_Perpenhente
      @Ludwig_Perpenhente หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@elfanperuanordr2147 When you reach God in heaven, let him let you know that your reasons will not be excused in the pearly gates.

    • @elfanperuanordr2147
      @elfanperuanordr2147 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ludwig_Perpenhente im sorry :(

    • @fuckyouv2fromultrakill
      @fuckyouv2fromultrakill หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elfanperuanordr2147 I read allat.

  • @4leafzilla312
    @4leafzilla312 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2:29 “It couldn’t be Satan because he doesn’t exist in Ultrakill.”
    5-S
    Testament IV
    Line 8
    “AND I CAST LUCIFER, TOO. INTO THE INFERNAL DEN”

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lucifer as final boss is still not possible though. Too much character development for Gabe to not fight us in the final

    • @NightmareEagle10
      @NightmareEagle10 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@OST-jp4cc Lucifer Prime

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@NightmareEagle10 no, angels don’t turn into prime souls. Husks do

  • @megablaziken8572
    @megablaziken8572 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I do genuinely enjoy the idea of V1 and Gabriel teaming up and I can see why Gabriel might want to do it, but unless it’s a Gabriel shows up at the last bit to help out, I don’t understand why V1 wouldn’t just kill him. Unless there’s been some new lore about how V1 does its thing. From what I know it just kills shit to keep on living. There’s no other real motive.
    And I think it would be more fitting if V1 by itself, was able to destroy the thing that even God couldn’t undo because the machine was a little hungry.

    • @SomeCowguy
      @SomeCowguy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hungy wobot

    • @spoopykool
      @spoopykool หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that machines think and are sentient, V1 listening to bosses monologue and not attacking, the gutter man book, V2s opening moves(bowing and cracking their knuckles), in V2s second fight V1 says/thinks “your not getting away this time” plus a whole bunch of other stuff. It’s definitely possible for Gabriel to team up with V1 but there is 100% a possibility for him to not as well.

    • @invenotrainworld
      @invenotrainworld หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i think v1 killing hell by itself wouldn't really fit that much. v1 might be the player but at the end of the day gabe is the protagonist and killing hell would be the perfect way to end his character arc

    • @Thy_cockroach_crusader
      @Thy_cockroach_crusader หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spoopykool in the game everything with blood is sentient. also terminals are sentient in the lore. They got bored and got machines to enter hell for entertainment. thats why when you lose in the cyber grind you hear booing from a crowd. and the ranks are there so machines do more style

    • @amiano59e4
      @amiano59e4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@invenotrainworld plus having gabriel steal the kill from you seems like a perfect "fuck u bich" moment after we kicked his ass twice/thrice

  • @heki1873
    @heki1873 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Size 2 as final boss. Change my mind.

  • @subject7325
    @subject7325 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Plot twist: The name we've been given is a lie and we're actually just gonna storm heaven and fight the Doom Slayer in a trial by combat

  • @Pancake_Bunny1
    @Pancake_Bunny1 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    here is how i think everything will go: 9-1 will be a gauntlet of some kind, and after the gauntlet in 9-1, we go over to 9-2, then we fight gabriel, but we cant go any deeper, as were already in the deepest layer, and as gabriel dies from his wounds finally accepting his fate, hell realizes the only plaything it has now is V-1, and with V-1 shutting down due to lack of blood and fuel, hell now has nothing, all of its toys are gone, and all it can do is just watch at everything its caused, happy, but sad it ended so quickly, overall i think the hell part might not be in the final level, but most likely ULTRAKILL isnt going to end on a good ending

    • @adonouwataam3616
      @adonouwataam3616 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i actually like this theory. if that ends up happening, i want hell to torture v1 by giving it blood when he's about to shut down, that way v1 stays as hell's plaything for eternity. although the end is probably gonna be completely different cuz hakita likes messing with us.

    • @Pancake_Bunny1
      @Pancake_Bunny1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@adonouwataam3616 oooo, that actually seems like hakita would do that

    • @VideoGameEnthusiast_1
      @VideoGameEnthusiast_1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So P-3 just doesn't exist now?

    • @Pancake_Bunny1
      @Pancake_Bunny1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VideoGameEnthusiast_1 well i have no theorys on what P-3 will be, so i didnt include it

  • @realcatlands1560
    @realcatlands1560 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What I wanted the final boss to be (but it probably won’t be) is Lucifer, but only about half the fight. After you kill his first health bar, Gabriel disturbs the fight much like Sisyphus breaks the panopticon in the middle of the fight and you have to fight him instead

  • @glagglegreeny
    @glagglegreeny หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Gabriel has a picnic with you 😔

    • @goober130
      @goober130 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gabriel picnic in the winter would go crazy as an april fools 9-S level (april fools cause gluttony and heresy are prime sanctums)

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@goober130 maybe an unlockable level after P-3?

    • @goober130
      @goober130 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@notjebbutstillakerbal yea maybe

  • @bravenden3794
    @bravenden3794 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    I think that Gabriel will team up with V1, or he will team up with the other LAST machines alive in hell (Swordmachines, Turrets, Mindflayers) to KILL V1.
    I would be glad to see it that way.
    (Although Hakita will probably do everything exactly in a way that no one would have thought).

    • @weresteres
      @weresteres หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      By Turrets you mean sentrys or like actual turrets like we see in the earthmover fight?

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      This doesn’t work well with information we already know from Gabe’s terminal entry. He finally sees V1 as a challenge and will try hard to overcome the machine. In the intermission he admits to the councilor that he knows he will die , so why not die trying to best the thing that made you gain a whole new perspective on life?
      It’s stated by many that Hakita always does subversions but there is a reason for them, it’s not just for surprise and shock value.

    • @guerranoturna5860
      @guerranoturna5860 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@weresteresyes

    • @monwyn8538
      @monwyn8538 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i had a similar idea, mine is gabriel will literally team up with us in level(s) to kill all the machines and souls to free them from the cruelty god himself regrettedly recreated, the final boss would be hell itself, and then it will be a bonus bossfight of V1/gabriel dual to the death, V1 won (obviously) but it's then left to slowly starve in an empty world as there is no longer blood on earth to feed on and V1 cant reach heavens (cuz it's on another planet or smt im not christian)
      it doesnt need to happen but it's such a cool scenario

    • @bravenden3794
      @bravenden3794 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@weresteres Both

  • @bluefenix1457
    @bluefenix1457 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    There's no more alt weapons, the full arsenal update stated that the arsenal was complete (the only thing left would be the yellow arm), and, since every act gives out an alternate weapon, there would have to be a 4th act. Also, the creatures of hell aren't a hivemind controlled by hell, they all just attack V1 because it's the biggest threat in the room. Enemy infighting in 7-3 was explained as the fight having already started before V1 got there

    • @MandarkVonShadd
      @MandarkVonShadd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was explanation, until some of gametesters theorized that enemies want to feed trees, which hakita found way cooler explanation

    • @goober130
      @goober130 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and also, swordsmachine was shown multiple times killing assorted husks in PRELUDE

  • @elliotthedoge9456
    @elliotthedoge9456 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    There will be a lot of technology, a factory or something, we still don't know who the fuck augmented husks and stalkers if it isn't hell itself

    • @boxmantherandom
      @boxmantherandom หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the thing is it IS hell itself

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The ARG that shows that Hell is alive shows us that Hell augmented the Husks

    • @-Metalblaster-
      @-Metalblaster- หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heck, we don't even know who the fuck made the minotaur

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-Metalblaster- we do. We really do.
      INFORMATION BLAST. Some points you didn’t say but this is just a message I responded to some else about
      No, Minotaur has nothing to do with P-3. It is VERY unlikely that the Minotaur was created by someone other than Hell, much less a figure whose name is redacted and even then points more to Hell than a person as Hell is always being vaguely mentioned and directly naming it is avoided. There have been books talking about the prime in their respective layer, Violence was about the machines/ little drops of information that focuses on Hell as a character and hopefully fraud is about demons but the P-3 Prime will be named in Fraud. “Hell Itself” fits in the thing. Terminal entry for the Leviathan says that the same force that made it made the other demons. What made the Mannequins? Hell did.
      Another point after reading some of House of Leaves (and the whole red crossed out text is a reference to house of leaves and some inspiration for the game) is that the Minotaur in the book is related to the House. The House is a non Euclidean space that can just make things appear. Hell is non Euclidean and acts as a “House” in both the fact that it works on Dream logic and it is made to house sinners. This parallel can be applied to ULTRAKILL and Hell made the Minotaur.
      As for the “building rapport” sentence, this has the same answer as why Hell allowed Minos to build the city. Variety is the spice of life.

    • @boxmantherandom
      @boxmantherandom หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-Metalblaster- it is most likely also hell itself

  • @ianshaw3189
    @ianshaw3189 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Idea: A Frozen Factory?
    I've seen this idea in a custom level, but what if Treachery (being the final layer and hive-mind of hell) would be a factory where the Demons are born? They are stone statues with bloody innards, so they'd have to be made somewhere. Seems fitting it'd be in the Cocytus.

  • @Drpyxh
    @Drpyxh หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    what if v1 makes friends with hell and they all say "we...are...ultrakill!" and then the credits roll

    • @goober130
      @goober130 หลายเดือนก่อน

      v1 using the SAM voice and hell using that one demon/zombie voice effect say "Together, we will Ultrakill." in unison as they head up to heaven

  • @adamkot5817
    @adamkot5817 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What you said is insane and i fucking love it

  • @Vetrical
    @Vetrical หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why would the last update called "full arsenal" if we were going to get a new alt

  • @Floppygamr
    @Floppygamr 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i love how he used the raygun from cod zombies in the thumbnail

  • @querta.
    @querta. หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i dont think there will be alt rocket or railcannon. the full arsenal update is called that for a reason

    • @Thy_cockroach_crusader
      @Thy_cockroach_crusader หลายเดือนก่อน

      in the description of the full arsenal update it says ''your arsenal is now complete.''

  • @ashey_chan
    @ashey_chan หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey first of all I wanted to thank you for this video! Things like these hype me up, make me happy and sad that ULTRAKILL is nearing its end.
    I REALLY like the idea of Hell being the last boss, but at the same time, this doesn't seem like it.
    We need to have in mind P-3 aswell, seeing how in P-2 for example Sisyphus recognizes you killed Minos, these seem to be canonical and follow the main path of the game to a degree.
    So either complete destruction of Hell or V1 is not gonna be it, or Hell gets destroyed and P-3 happens in the surface.

  • @its_pronounced_as_King
    @its_pronounced_as_King หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "gabriel will join v1 to destroy hell itself" as if it will ever happen

  • @kasonkong9581
    @kasonkong9581 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What I want is a Metroid-style escape sequence through all the layers of hell while it collapses around you

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn’t make sense for V1 to kill hell as God couldn’t even do it, also with the way He’ll works the only chance V1 would be able to escape is if Hell allowed it, which as seen from the earthmover book, it would want conflict to end in a bang

  • @jokerkirby7051
    @jokerkirby7051 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I think it would be really cool if Ultrakill ended with you fighting Gabriel with 3 health bars, but the last health bar is a phase change like V2, where Gabriel gives you one of his swords (the yellow arm) and you unequip all your other weapons out of respect as you two have a sword duel to the death.

    • @I_EatKids
      @I_EatKids หลายเดือนก่อน

      I highly doubt that robots care about emotions and morality.

    • @k0rami
      @k0rami หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      so the last bar is a british sword fight

    • @isntduality
      @isntduality หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      "show me a good time, V1."

    • @weresteres
      @weresteres หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Why would v1 have respect? Sure she listens to dialogues and wait for v2 to cracks his knuckles, but I thing that just her try to analyse and gather as much data and information as possible before began the fight (and to also know if the entity is a foe or not and if it's a threat or not by waiting if it's going to attack, after all why would she risk losing fuel or die if there is a possible option the entity is not hostile). Another alternative is that Gabriel will somehow destroyed all of v1 arsenal and give one of his sword to truly have a fair fight.

    • @k0rami
      @k0rami หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@weresteres who's "her"

  • @Wild-Goober
    @Wild-Goober หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wouldn’t Gabriel as a prime soul be cool? If he dies in the last level he could become a prime soul.
    Also I feel like the game has set it up for him too

    • @StickBreightley
      @StickBreightley หลายเดือนก่อน

      A story all about how living in the moment and making the most of the time you have left would be completely ruined if the main character could just choose not to die
      Not to mention that angels don’t have an afterlife like humans do and can’t become Prime Souls to begin with

  • @RH_MEME_MAN
    @RH_MEME_MAN 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The finally boss should be an amalgamation made of 3 bosses in one to be hell in its true form

  • @Donica_Flowerpot
    @Donica_Flowerpot 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey, great video dude, really enjoyed watching it and I do agree that layer 9 being ice themed sounds dope as hell (no pun intended).
    Small thing I noticed though, when you were talking about Ptolemy, the betreyer from Judea, you used an imagine of Claudius Ptolemy of Alexandria, a Greek philosopher and scholar. Don’t know if it’s intentional, so I’m just giving a heads up cause I noticed no comment mentioning it.
    Cheers!

  • @Sr.Hamsalot
    @Sr.Hamsalot หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think a new husk enemy that does ranged attacks while trapped in the ice would be pretty cool bc getting buried in ice was a punishment for treachary in the divine comedy

    • @cIIII91r_
      @cIIII91r_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      so just sentry but shoots hell balls and cant get up?

  • @David111IsHere
    @David111IsHere หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It would be cool if we saw other archangels like Michael in 9-2. From what I've heard he is depicted as a warrior or healer, and there are numerous paintings of him fighting. What if we go with Gabriel into the final room of 9-2 and we see Michael slay Lucifer and then we fight him. I'm also excited to see what P-3 has in store. I personally don't think there'll be new alternate weapons but I would love more

    • @amiano59e4
      @amiano59e4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "personally dont think there'll be new alt weapons"
      this. i am also expecting no new alt weapons cus the lasergun and rocket launcher are fine on their own and while yes you could PROBABLY make something new for them or use the unused weapons i just dont see it happening. but who knows hakita could pull a shotgun blast on us

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would a whole new angel be introduced at the end? A named angel no less, with no build up

  • @Tyto-ATTA
    @Tyto-ATTA 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You’re all wrong, we shall find in the final place the one who transcends time, the one that needs a hampter, the destroyer of the water level Hakita himself

  • @Funny_Fumbler
    @Funny_Fumbler หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:37 as of the new update there probably won’t be new alts because it was called “full arsenal” and im pretty sure we have v1’s full arsenal now cause of it

  • @carlosdeandres4774
    @carlosdeandres4774 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think gabriel will help V1 finish the last boss, which probably could be the god of ultrakill, who left and has fallen to turn into the devil/hell's hivemind

  • @thegoldenaegis
    @thegoldenaegis หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I could see 9-2 being a fight against Gabriel before a secret final level opens where you descend even further and face off against hell itself.
    For the P level, I could see God himself being the prime soul as the previous testament implies that he tried to kill himself but couldn't (I starred into the abyss but the abyss averted my gaze) meaning that the only way he could punish himself would be sealing him away in a prison (actually maybe he used hell itself one last time to turn it into a flesh prison for himself)

    • @engikneegming8389
      @engikneegming8389 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting idea of hell itself being a flesh prison

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Prime sanctums only have prime souls, and prime souls can only come from Husks as the terminal entry says.
      God LEFT the universe, he’s not around at all. While he’s not dead, he is not around in any capacity. The angels in Hell would have found him at this point.
      Fighting against Hell itself is like a fight against an eldritch god. It can teleport enemies to you,seal off doorways, and have the layers inside itself stretch to immeasurable distances. It dying would disrupt it watching entertainment, something it definitely doesn’t want.

    • @goober130
      @goober130 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think judas prime would go pretty hard, someone already made a theme, a flesh tesseract idea, and voicelines

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Judas prime would be a fan/modded boss, as Jesus doesn’t exist

    • @Thy_cockroach_crusader
      @Thy_cockroach_crusader หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      prime soulds are extras and dont matter too much in the story. also hakita said we wont meet god or satan

  • @Krumblkube
    @Krumblkube 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gabriel being the final boss (unless you count P-3 being the final boss seeing as you would have to beat Gabriel first) makes the most fundamental sense when you consider every other layer has ended with Gabriel and further continuing his character arc and each layer he appears in plays into his character at that very moment.
    also an alternate wouldn't make sense as, at least the way I see it, with every weapon that got an alt being the first three you got in the demo its like you got an upgrade to those weapons with their buffs and debuffs (also its seemingly one alt per act so getting another one is sadly out of the question)

  • @cherryfrogg
    @cherryfrogg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "together, we are ultrakill!" ahh theory

  • @vibey4649
    @vibey4649 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I think treachery is gonna have red as its main-color
    Gluttony was red, heresy was red, they were the crescendo finale of both acts, and gabe was the final boss of both. Then again, gabe was sky-daddy's good boy, so, maybe it won't, as he's changed.
    If it is red, I like to think it'll be either because; it just is, or; A theory I saw from a reddit comment, treachery being landfilled with the blood and carnage of the upper layers

    • @techietisdead
      @techietisdead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imagine heaven dlc?

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Red ice

    • @givlupi2686
      @givlupi2686 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's some really flimsy logic, basing the idea entirely on two layers coincidentally having the same color. It doesn't make sense for Hakita to base his layer designs on that, as everything is inspired by Dante's Inferno.

    • @onyxdragon622
      @onyxdragon622 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe the ice could be stained somewhat red in the layer- contrasting the blues and whites of snowy environment? All of mankind is dead, after all, and people had to go somewhere I guess.

    • @vibey4649
      @vibey4649 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@givlupi2686 I'm just feeling a general pattern, my dude. They're the only two layers that share the same color, (but differet shadss)

  • @Fennnnn
    @Fennnnn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    if gabriel and v1 dont kiss and then the credits roll im refunding the game

  • @Sholare
    @Sholare หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I imagine V1 reaching the deepest part of hell. You see the heart, the boss health bar appears but Gabriel coming from above pierces it. Grabriel starts laughing, then he salutes you, throws an epic monologue and the fight starts.

  • @domango970
    @domango970 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a kinda dumb but slightly cool idea in which HELL ITSELF appears as the boss of P - 3, and after defeating it, it'd turn out that the entirety of hell was a flesh prison made to contain someone extremely powerful, perhaps the first ever prime soul.

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is wrong. Hell wasn’t made to contain a prime soul at all. It was made to torture humanity because God got upset that mankind didn’t follow his word. Any Hell boss is a bad idea because Hell outclasses V1 in every single way. Even if Hell had a weakness or weak point, God would have exploited it and Hell would just teleport V1 into an insta death hazard

  • @mikaLtubeyou
    @mikaLtubeyou หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I hope Gabriel teams up with us.

  • @a_flamingo_cultist
    @a_flamingo_cultist หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i've been saying this but just to say it again: treachery is an icy wasteland, hakita gave us slippery oil, treachery's gonna have ice physics and we're gonna either hate it or love it

  • @nfew
    @nfew หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:12 ULTRAKILL is the friends we made all along the way

  • @TheDiamond-fl6fr
    @TheDiamond-fl6fr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This idea is off topic, but what if the knuckle blaster is capable of parrying stronger projectiles that the feedbacker cant aprry (sonehow) but its just hard to time it.

  • @Phantoms3Dzone
    @Phantoms3Dzone หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Alt Railcannon prediction:
    A shovel.
    JUST KIDDING! It’s gonna be a Plasma Cannon for sure

    • @SillyGuy67
      @SillyGuy67 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since its "icy" the shovel kinda make sense ngl lol

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal หลายเดือนก่อน

      The full arsenal uptade is called that for a reason, said reason being that there will be no more Alt Weapons

    • @Phantoms3Dzone
      @Phantoms3Dzone หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notjebbutstillakerbal Sorry, I'm dumb

  • @Thefriesarecrispy
    @Thefriesarecrispy หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think its gonna be very sigma

  • @maxkaminker505
    @maxkaminker505 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I haven’t even watched the video yet, but is that the ray gun mark 2 in the thumbnail?

  • @Noobiis
    @Noobiis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bet it will be some insane lore hell thing

  • @polarpork340
    @polarpork340 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4 views in 1 minute gronf fell off

  • @smarty265
    @smarty265 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another banger video

  • @niconotoneshot
    @niconotoneshot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    personally, i think if hell itself ends up being the final boss, it would be similar to the final boss of spooky's jumpscare mansion, a humanoid figure with no skin, bleeding out but almost always impossible to reach.
    (also i think it would be unlikely, but having the final layer be mechanical like the prelude would be sick)

  • @cainlet
    @cainlet หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:17 CAIN MENTIONED 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @the_egg_
    @the_egg_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the egg thinks layer 9 will be
    cold

  • @goldsquare7350
    @goldsquare7350 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ok well i have realized something. in act 1 and 2 they had a pattern. the first boss was v2, the 2nd one was a really big sized boss (leviathen, king minos) and then the 3rd one was gabriel. however in act 3 the end boss of layer 7 was a really big sized boss bc v2 is dead. i think that layer 8 will have gabriel as the boss to conclude him and then layer 9 is prob hell its self

  • @cownuggets9124
    @cownuggets9124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i saw the thumbnail and was like "raygun mark2?"

    • @Cryystal_
      @Cryystal_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      same

  • @gunnarcarroll968
    @gunnarcarroll968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4000 views in 2 hours. FELL OFF!!!

  • @Totorocot
    @Totorocot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe the final layer of ultrakill won’t be a boss,
    but the friends we made along the way

  • @and3ro
    @and3ro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HOLY GAH DAMM MY COMMENT WAS IN THE VID YO

  • @iperson651
    @iperson651 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where are the download links for the custom levels you were playing on?

    • @SirGronfleton
      @SirGronfleton  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      just use angry level loader

  • @hekati7889
    @hekati7889 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Better idea, a 3 boss gauntlet of fighting Gabriel, then Satan shows up and is like "yo Bois watcha doin," and then Hell starts acting up so yall either take it down or die trying

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice joke

  • @badending2196
    @badending2196 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm pretty sure Hakita is rewriting the plot of the game every time the new speculation/theory video appears

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. No he ain’t. He has had the story planned out and if it doesn’t happen the way the fans want, I bet they would say he changed up the story

  • @GaryLovesYou666
    @GaryLovesYou666 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Erm, aktuajlly, The Full Arsenal update says that the weapons we have now are all the weapons that we will get until the end of the game, so it is very probable that we won't get a railcannon or rocket launcher alternative version

  • @LeviathanProbably
    @LeviathanProbably หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a dream about the treachery layer where the 9-2 boss was an ice dragon character my friend made and the p-3 boss was steve from minecraft so those are my predictions.

  • @Kikabopom
    @Kikabopom หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the gabriel fight is gonna have a secret mechanic where if you wait 24 real life hours he just drops dead

  • @theguy2537
    @theguy2537 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i dont know if gabriel actually still has 24 hours left because at the end of his murder cutscene he had his holy glow back

  • @quicklolobino
    @quicklolobino 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i think that while it says there are 2 levels in treachery, there would actually be 3, with gabriel, satan and whatever other boss there is, which is most likely really far off but something else that would maybe seem more likely is that v1 just doesnt go to treachery, the thing is all he needs is fuel, so if everything is already dead there is no point of continuing, while yea most likely there are monsters in treachery in dantes inferno everyone and everything is frozen from the waist down... so idk

  • @GDZLOL
    @GDZLOL 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    God logs back: wtf happened to hell

  • @Sealqua
    @Sealqua 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gabriel prime? I mean he had the power and the willpower, he was the new judge of hell and by this point nothing except the old council (they’re dead) would be able to imprison him.

  • @thebrassmask697
    @thebrassmask697 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel like a beating heart would be copying the violence climax, so maybe a brain or just one giant humanoid creature?

  • @willythekid0768
    @willythekid0768 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonder if the game will leave early access once treachery is out, p-3 is out or umd is out.

  • @Plushleftyyyy
    @Plushleftyyyy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about p-3 predictions next and layout?

  • @Aadrianoss
    @Aadrianoss หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fuck it, V2's corpse final boss.

  • @ss-bf1uh
    @ss-bf1uh 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    One boss would be really cool as the final boss of ultrakill. I feel like if we didn't kill of Minos Prime in p-1 he would've been an extremely interesting and worthy title of the final boss of Ultrakill and the boss of the treachery layer for multiple reasons. We already knew that Minos prime before he got sealed in the flesh prison was the original judge of hell but believed his people didn't deserve eternal punishment for just loving one another. So, he built a city with massive walls to protect his people. And when Gabriel came down to end Minos, he said that it was DEFYING God's will which is betrayal of trust. Then when Minos reasoned with him Gabriel killed him. Before his soul going prime, he already was a threat to heaven which was why Gabriel was tasked with killing him. Since when a soul goes prime its physical capabilities get enhanced by a lot I mean he made all of heaven shit itself. And judging by the speech Minos gave at the start of the fight, Minos was planning on killing Gabriel and leading his people to salvation. And if he was already a threat to heaven before he became a prime soul, when his soul goes prime its obviously going to be strong as fuck. And as said in his speech, the crimes that v1 has committed against mankind are not going to be forgiven. So, it makes sense that the last fight in Ultrakill would be the v1, whose goal is to use the people in Hell as fuel which has no remorse for any life, against Minos prime which was empathetic towards his people and is trying to lead the lust layer to salvation and to make heaven and v1 pay for all the people they killed.
    But we killed Minos prime already 💀 so of course this is all just a theory

  • @Goin_VR
    @Goin_VR หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what custom level are you playing in the video (the first one)

    • @SirGronfleton
      @SirGronfleton  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      check description

  • @TakeASlice-Music
    @TakeASlice-Music หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was the friends we made along the way

  • @AofCastle
    @AofCastle หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freezing missiles like in Metroid Fusion is genius

  • @iwaniscool7780
    @iwaniscool7780 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine that after beating the final boss theres a cutscenes where V1 blood become lows and will get shut down and then v1 sit on a spot then die in the cold hell where no one will looking for him

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hakita has said that he will keep the ending of what happens to V1 after the Gabriel fight vaguely to allow for a sequel should he ever need the money.

    • @DESTROY777-gp3md
      @DESTROY777-gp3md หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OST-jp4ccWAIT SECOND GAME????!

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DESTROY777-gp3md yeah, if he ever needs the money. Doesn’t want to be known as the ultrakill guy forever

  • @theocelotninja1028
    @theocelotninja1028 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would say something like
    9-1: Enemy gauntlet + gabriel bossfight
    9-2: Lucifer bossfight
    and in P-3 Hell is the flesh prison/panopticon of the other levels, except that instead of releasing a prime soul, he releases God who V1 then destroys. (this would explain God's absence; he was trapped by Hell, maybe even voluntarily seeing as he "began to seek the end" of his days)

  • @user-uq8rl1ho1u
    @user-uq8rl1ho1u 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what if v1 fights hell and ascends back to the surface whilst fighting it?
    like what would v1 do with no source of blood?
    Maby v1 is going down all the way because hell itself might have unlimited blood

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really wouldn’t happen as the whole game frames it as time is running out. There isn’t eternal blood for the machines as the stakes of the story disappear

  • @moneydropper6538
    @moneydropper6538 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think the final boss is gonna be some wild ass lore of god coming back to stop us

  • @TuttaltroChe_quello
    @TuttaltroChe_quello หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Well guys, I guess this is it; It truly was our Ultrakill. Bring it in"

  • @eleanor5675
    @eleanor5675 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has hakita commented on if there will be a postlude or not? There's enough room in level select screen for one

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You forget that Hakita plans to put in an official level loader and level maker for modders. The game also says it will end in Act 3 so no postlude

    • @boxmantherandom
      @boxmantherandom หลายเดือนก่อน

      isn't there like a finale button hiden in the files, it's either scrapped or hakita is gonna go "okay now go kill all of heaven"

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boxmantherandom getting to Heaven only makes sense for the sequel Hakita would make if he ever needed the money. And yes, in very early versions of the game it existed but things get scrapped for a reason

    • @bursteh1135
      @bursteh1135 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@OST-jp4ccwould be nice to have a heaven spinoff anyway, doom's also tried that iirc

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bursteh1135 yeah but it’s really up to Hakita. Doesn’t want to be know as the ultrakill guy forever

  • @Brainrotteruwu
    @Brainrotteruwu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if p-3 is having to fight a p-2 like arena but with an idoled prime soul chasing you?

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal หลายเดือนก่อน

      If P2 had a cybergrind wave to protect the PANOPTICON, I think P3 would have a god damn BOSS before the prison, which I think could be called the FLESH CONTAINMENT.

  • @_Sqyd_
    @_Sqyd_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hell is alive, in testaments you can see how god created hell but he can't undo It.

  • @bendyguy
    @bendyguy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    mean after me it makes sense twistfully that we fight gabriel in 9-1 so we get anxiety because there is another mision left.

    • @OST-jp4cc
      @OST-jp4cc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too much buildup for Gabe to not be the final boss

  • @RealUltraDucky
    @RealUltraDucky หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the final boss is going to be something we won't expect like god

  • @laser2154
    @laser2154 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i got ultrakill last week and it has been so much fun, espacially with the chainsaw :) rn in 7-2 still need to complete it, i'll see if i do minos and sisyphus

  • @Yuriuri
    @Yuriuri หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:34 Satan/Lucifer does in fact exist in Ultrakill; he was stated to have been casted down to hell in Testament III, I believe