We're in the Endgame Now: 240Hz OLED - LG 27GR95QE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
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Gaming monitors are getting GREAT and LG's new 27GR95QE shows that we might be in the endgame for what we can achieve. With lowering prices, is OLED now the defacto choice for gaming monitors or should you stick to your old TN Panel?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Plouffe is EXCITED
0:24 Unboxing
3:42 Design, I/O, and the stand
6:26 Sponsor - Secret Lab
6:54 More design impressions
8:00 Thoughts on OSD options/design
10:15 Specs and HDR impressions
12:30 Gaming impressions - Spider-Man and CS:GO
14:03 Pricing, competition, and overall thoughts
15:58 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
For a desktop monitor (with a remote), there should be a place to store the remote integrated into the stand.
adhesive velcro??
@@Tom-kl9jf Sure, you could work something out yourself, I just mean that in context of TV vs. monitor, remotes are designed to be used "remotely" for a TV where you are practically guaranteed to be several feet away from the screen, while you are not likely to be more than a few feet away from a desktop monitor.
@@Tom-kl9jf vercrow, why go that nerdy ??? LOL, he forget were the Velcro is ..
@@TimothyBoyle13 remotes are typically designed to be used at a distance but I would argue when they make the controls complete shit on the base monitor and make them not shit when using the remote, that design consideration has been nullified. They have clearly designed THIS remote to simply be an external control system so they didn't have to build it into the chassis.
EDIT: My tone comes off combative here but I think we are agreeing regardless.
Or, OR.... they could just give you a regular navigation stick on the display instead of forcing an "innovation" that almost no one wanted.
I can see Linus finding this in one of his employees places in a future tech upgrade show.
I don't think he'll be quite so forgiving about stealing actually useful stuff.
Intel tech upgrade is now over :3
@@durururururururu AMD tech upgrade isn't though
@@dm2060 this guy thinks he personally knows Linus and exactly what he thinks hahaha 😂
Note to any buyers: disable the power saving features to get reasonable brightness. It'll be super dim out of the box. Still won't be the brightest around but it's somethin
Power saving mode doesn't exist in my osd lol
You should have mentioned the auto brightness limiter thats going to bother a lot of people when using it for productivity. If you open any white window this thing will dim down a lot.
I'm sure you can turn that off.
It's not necessarily an auto brightness limiter, it's more that OLEDs can only get so bright when all of the pixels are illuminated at the same time. APL handicaps this variety of OLED far more than the superior QD OLED from Samsung, so if you're not working in the dark it's probably best to look at their ultrawide OLEDs instead.
@@ALmaN11223344 the same thing happens on my AW3423DW
I actually just returned the LG 32GQ950-B because of that. Sad to hear it's on this monitor as well, even with it being an OLED. Now I'm running a ViewSonic Elite XG321UG.
he mentioned that the full screen brightness is about half of the peak brightness
This is probably the perfect gaming monitor, but I really want to see a 32 inch 4k 120hz OLED monitor for productivity tasks, preferably with the option for a glossy panel
@@Steve-lz8vv they look good
@@Steve-lz8vv looks better with sharper Text.
@@Steve-lz8vv It looks far better. I'm still using a glossy monitor from 2013 and it's been hard finding an upgrade path. I never have lighting behind me at my desk.
@@xxxslappyxxx if you have a problem with sharper test, the problem is not the absence of gloss, it's just a crappy screen, lol
With OLED you wouldn't have that problem regardless
@@godminnette2 it looks like crap unless you live in the Batcave, objectively
But to each their own, I guess
(Btw glossy oled makes no sense)
Damn, when one of these is in the 500-700 price point, Im going to be all over it. Just can't reason the upgrade from my AD27QD
Exact same position. Waiting for 32 in 4k 144hz OLED without blurry text to be a thing
I am currently on a AG241QX which is still a TN 1440p 144hz panel, I think it's really good, I'd love to try really low response time and I have been watching a lot of movies. I think to me its worth the 1000. once the competition joins the line, at the end of 2023 you might see a price drop to 850 maybe?
@@joefx69 Make it glossy and we are done forever.
indian rubbles ? 500 is cheap ?
he never did pay anything, promoted crap !
These monitors are outstanding, but the one thing I can't stand which could be the fault of the reviewer, is when they say "man and look how super thin this is".. Yeah like 20% of it is thin, then you have that giant protrusion on the back lol.. That's just my pet peeve tho, I'd rather the monitor be a couple inches thick and uniform than super thin here but 6 inches thick there
Hey I own this monitor, you guys missed another OSD menu for OLED maintenance. It’s the middle button on the bottom of the remote. It has image cleaning and pixel cleaning modes that you can enter to maintain the life of the OLED pixels and prevent burn in. Also, every time you turn off your computer and have the monitor on, it knows to go automatically into image cleaning mode. Another thing I’m adding now, if you have the black stabilizer anywhere above 55, the screen will temporarily burn in after a few hours of gaming due to the blacks being greyish and not actually true black. If you run it through image cleaning after that it completely disappears and looks brand new again. Because of that i leave my black stabilizer at 55 on every mode.
Hey is text fringing very noticeable?
@@bigmajor6205 I don’t notice any issues with the text but I may just be used to it by now. When i first set up the monitor it took me a good 30 minutes to get the settings the exact way I wanted it and I think that might’ve helped
If i dont need 240Hz, shouldnt I just buy an LG oled tv?
@@AdamLord depends on what screen size you want. The smallest oled tv you can get is 42 inch which is kinda massive for pc gaming
Personally I turn all the OLED care features off. They're annoying cause they dim the screen *way* too much without actually doing much to preserve the screen. I've had my LG C1 for two years now and there are *zero* signs of burn-in, no matter what test patterns I use to check for it. It doesn't hurt to leave Pixel Cleaning on (since it only activates when the display is off), but every other setting is an unnecessary annoyance and should be disabled completely.
Also, you're making up straight *lies* about the black stabilizer thing. I've used various black stabilizer settings in different games to help me spot enemies in the shadows better; still no signs of burn-in. If you're seriously having issues (and not just spreading misinformation to scare people away from OLED), then you need to make a warranty claim on your display, because using a normal function that is meant to be used should *not* cause burn-in.
I like that they put the I/O where it probably won't conflict with a monitor arm. With my current displays, the DP cable is crunched by the arm, and I can't use a 90 degree adapter because then the HDMI ports below it are blocked. The only option is a 90 degree that aims the cable upwards, then I have to deal with cable managing that.
I think the screen on time counter is an LG thing. My 48CX has it also, pretty useful as I have been tracking the screen on time and monitoring screen retention and all that. Currently at 9082. Did a check about 150 hours ago using all the test patters and colors and still have no visible burn/retention. Colors still look great. 80% backlight brightness since new.
I also have that on my 32GQ850. The UI amongst these Ultra Gear series seem to be very similar, if not the same.
Eizo monitors have such a timer as well.
I have looked at several old HP monitors; they have "Backlight Hours" in the a (management?) section of the OSD
i have i think its the 27GL850-B. screen on time currently at 16054 hours. nearly 2 years and its only 2.5 years old.
@@stephen1r2 Oh I am sure there are others too not just LG, I was more meaning it seems to be LG's thing, every LG I have seen has this function.
This is the first monitor review I'm watching where I really feel like watching a video recording of a monitor through my much lower spec monitor doesn't really give me any better understanding of it's performance.
My fellow brother in Linus, I feel the same
That's why you listen to the host, look at the specs and just take that with you.
Kinda glad I watched it on my Oled phone... Wouldn't have been able to see the difference on any of my monitors or TVs.
I can't wait until seeing more 27" OLEDs on the market. I like the 27" size for dual monitor
I just want 27inch 1440p QD-OLED so I don’t have to worry about burn-in
@@Obospeedo you have to go out of your way to burn in an oled. Just hide your taskbar and set a blank screensaver for 10 mins incase you afk. As long as you don’t leave a static image or logo up for hours on end day after day, it won’t burn in
@@ryanespinoza7297 yea that’s not going out of your way to prevent burn-in and not the other way around…
@@Obospeedo I don't worry about burn in, so I have no burn in because of my experience with my s9+'s barely noticeable burn in after 5 years. 1 year+ using a c1, 5k hours, max brightness/hdr on, pixel shift off and still no burn in from my browser's UI or anything else. By the time I start getting burn in, I'll feel like it's time to get a new display. I have confidence in the technology :)
@@Obospeedo I want a 27inch QD-OLED just because I want to max out. Might as well ugprade to all the cool new display tech things at once, instead of having to pick and choose. Tho my real question now is if it makes sense to get dual monitors > 27" or not
I feel you with the OSD and remote alternative, but I'd much rather minimize the physical impact on aesthetics and versatility over having an easier time setting it up. Realistically, I'll never need to touch the OSD again after a couple days with the monitor.
There ought to be a mount for the remote behind the panel, which would heavily counter its drawbacks. But if not, you can just tape it there yourself. No need to worry about clutter, losing it, or overly inconvenient retrieval.
For me personally that would be a deal breaker. I love the little control knob on my current lg panel. Can switch between my personal PC and work pc occasionally. I don't use it enough to get a hdmi switch which probably also wouldn't be very compatible with my work laptop and would add more stuff on the desk / more cables. I barely swap screens and since getting a streamer I basically don't, but I had to for months if I wanted to put on a different album or playlist. Obviously a very specific issue, but it definately has its uses. Besides that, adding that button on a 1000 dollar screen doesn't seem like a big ask haha
@@danielh12345 I don't think there's a dollar amount that stops physical interface features from either sticking out the front or sides, or requiring you to have access to them by reaching around one specific edge. Incidentally, that high dollar amount targets the kind of consumer who can afford it - the very kind of customer liable to want multiple identical monitors in some grid layout. I don't want anything on the face, and I'm often simply not going to be able to accommodate a specific edge.
Case in point: my top monitor has to be upside down because of the thick bottom bezel and power button.
That's not going to be a solution for accessing a side edge of a center monitor. It's a good(ish) thing my sideways side monitors are cheaper ones with side interfaces, else I'd have to choose between bottom bezels between monitors or longer cords sticking out the sides just to turn a sharp 180.
The remote is by far the most pragmatic solution, because absolutely no one _has_ to accommodate it in one specific place.
@HonoredMule idk man. My LG27GP850 has a bottom bezel, like most monitors. It has the little tiny joystick / nipple which is the power button and OSD, it's the perfect little control. Right there in front of you, not on the side where my other monitor would stop me from reaching it. It works, also its at the same place where the LED / power button is on this monitor. Could've just been there... and the LED they talk about in the video, it's in that same button on mine. It works, there already was a solution. They just removed it and created a "problem" (for some atleast). Also I don't want more remotes. My dac has one since its user interface is otherwise a nightmare with the one button it has. I understand design compromises, but they just litteraly replaced the working thing in the exact same place with this
@@danielh12345 I'm not sure what part of this you're not getting. On the front is ON THE FRONT! Where screens are supposed to be. When you go multi-monitor, next to "the" screen actually becomes _between_ screens and is suddenly very not ok.
You might have had a point, if this were a properly big screen that people spending thousands of dollars on are more likely to actually deploy in solitary configurations. But it's just a regular monitor, and one with a lot of details optimized for multi-monitor setups at that. The "jack of all trades" monitors are about two price tiers lower.
@@HonoredMule its a 1000 dollar 240 hz oled, which by default makes it not a regular monitor... as in this is the monitor you place your cheaper screens around. This is your main monitor. If its not then idk why you'd be buying this over idk a 300 euro ips 1440p with 75-120 hz or whatever
Clicked the video to read hyped comments, turn out it is only a few seconds old xD
one other reason someone might use DisplayPort over HDMI is daisy chaining, where you can plug on monitor into the GPU, then the next monitor into the first monitor, and so on. thought I doubt you'd want to do that in a gaming setups as that might limit max refresh rate if you're sending data for other monitors too
Wait what? This is possible? Is the down fall just one the second monitor or first one.
Daisy chaining pretty much dead on high end gaming monitors, there’s just not enough bandwidth. I love having it at work though, makes cable runs cleaner.
@@jbizz1320 I don't understand your question. it's a thing, and the first cable just carries the signal for both monitors
Another reason is that gpu have simply more dp ports than hdmi.
Is it preferable to use HDMI
Got this about a month ago. It looks insane in person. Like you can't describe it until you sit there. I downloaded the demo footage for the high bit rate experience. This monitor really shows its capability. Absolute madness.
If you don't mind me asking a bit of an involved question, do you use this with a Windows machine and at least one other monitor? I've been looking for a new monitor for a while now but none of the 4k120hz displays - including LG's versions - support Displayport Deep Sleep properly even if the option is in the OSD. All of them cause the system to behave as if the monitor has been unplugged and thus move all the windows off it onto other still-visible monitors, which is a big pain. LG apparently semi-recently released a firmware update to fix this behavior, but it didn't solve it on the 27GN950-B, with it still completely disconnecting when turned off. Does it work correctly on this display?
@@WhytefangYT I have this monitor. What is the use case here? Are you trying to have one monitor go to sleep and the other still be on and working? Or, are you talking about when you lock your PC and walk away, etc? I've not had any issue with Windows staying where I left them when I lock the PC, leave both monitors powered on, and leave for an extended period of time.
@@trippalhealicks Pretty much the exact opposite of that, actually - I leave my PC on, but turn off my monitors when I step away. If the monitor does not properly support disabling displayport deep sleep all my windows shuffle off that monitor onto my other monitors (which Windows still sees as connected, as they do support it properly) and need to be moved back when I turned them back on.
@@WhytefangYT tbh I have standard monitors and they do the same just depends on how they are turned off will quickly default to the last one even if its getting powered off usually the main one
@@Irish2007 I have multiple monitors that have the option to disable this in the OSD (a PG279Q from ASUS and an AW3420DW from Dell) as well as two that come by default with this feature disabled (an Omen 25" and a really old XL2411Z).
There are lots of monitors out there that support this feature properly, they're just all older as far as I can tell. No new monitor I've tested or asked about recently properly supports toggling this feature, they all just default it to on or the toggle doesn't work, assuming it does exist.
Would be nice if they included a little holder for the remote somewhere on the back. Theres enough space and it would prevent the inevitability of not being able to find it when you need a year after stashing it somewhere 😅
I use a pivot monitor when I am writing, revising, and editing books. Also, it's good for writing code, though I don't do that. I might not do that on a high refresh monitor, but 1440 is definitely a nice resolution for text documents.
Also arcade style games.
Problem is, OLED is quite susceptible to burn-in during activities that involve a lot of static text, which is pretty much what you described.
@@leonro you might wanna check out E-ink monitors
@@YounesLayachi I mean, sure, that's a great technology if you're staring at the same image for a long time. However, we were just talking about whether pivoting has any meaning in an OLED monitor. I was just arguing that you shouldn't get an OLED as your secondary display.
Once you see text in 4K you never want to go back to 1440p though
Put a dot of velcro on the remote and matching piece on the back of the stand or something and you'll have easy access to it and it wont get lost.
14:24 There weren't any 27" 1440p OLEDs at any refresh rate last year lol
The problem with plugs that come straight out like here is that if you have a thick gauge cable it puts alot of downward stress on the connector. Also, what if you were to accidentally pull down on the cable, chance of breaking the monitor and connector are pretty high.
For anyone looking to get this monitor, I'm not sure if It's a firmware issue, but the two that I have, have a bad flickering effect when the screen is dark and VRR/adaptive sync is on. Once you turn it off, it's totally fine. Just something to look out for.
Yep. I get this too on mine. There's also the massive oval that takes up the entire screen with VRR on as well.
Damn that monitor looked so good even through the camera! OLED really pops! No distortion or light reflection through the camera capturing it. Just Amazing!
My LG 32gk650f has a timer too 7942 hours, 330 days on time. First gen Ultragear released 2018.
Any vertical banding when looking at dark greys ? AKA a bunch of lines down the screen ?
@@fynkozari9271 thats a VA panel, not OLED.
This raises the bar for what a solid resolution and refresh rate should be for a quality fps monitor. Been using a 55c9 and a 65cx for a few years when sitting across the room, but this smaller screen size 27" would be great for actually being up close while not cumbersome/fatiguing to look at different positions quickly all day. Finally able to upgrade my small 24" asus 1080 tn 240 hz panel when gaming. Would like to see this in a 32", 27 is still a very good sweet spot, $1k feels steep a little, be in 4k 240hz, same panel and coming with displayport 2.0 finally in something to be future proof for the next 10 years and ready for the next gen gpus. Keep giving me them juicy gaming images. Im curious about the screen finish in well lit up room. The monitor looks promising as a stop-gap.
I love the feature that shows on time as well! It’s also present on my LG C2, and probably other LG OLED displays as well
I have this monitor and what they forgot to mention is text fringing - it's terrible, this monitor is awesome and I love it, but it is my second monitor (I have Alienware OLED as main) because working with text on it is impossible.
Also, what they didn't mention is that this monitor can do 12 bit color, but you will need HDMI 2.1 to have it uncompressed, DP will only have it compressed.
If you're going to have that thing as a second monitor... sell it to me, please.
@@Minarreal No. I also have PS5 connected to it.
Well they probably didn't mention it because in the past they said that text fringing is not the monitor's fault, it's a Windows software problem not being optimized for the display.
But doesn't your Alienware OLED also have fringing.
Something else to note about this panel is the sub-pixel layout, which is ordered RBG instead of RGB. Windows does not support this sub-pixel layout (AFAIK), and so text just looks noticeably worse, as do many 2D and UI assets.
This and the burn-in issue are what's keeping me from getting an OLED display like this. Once that changes, my IPS display gets demoted!
You are absolutely right, for a 16 minute video, I dont feel like they went deep enough for this particular model.
Also, I dont think anyone is buying this monitor to play Spiderman, next time they should demo CoD MW2, Warzone, Battlefield, or insert other trendy competitive shooters not just CS, you can show off a pretty game to test the HDR sure, but people who will pay a thousand USD for this will definitely use it with HDR off.
Yep exactly the issue with these panels... Also love how they saw and 'reviewed' the HDR in a youtube video you can clearly see they had set to 2160p but not the HDR option LOL
Iirc using the cleartype config window in settings it will switch the subpixel layout, but out of the box it defaults to rgb, so initially it will look crap.
Once you set it most games and applications will use the correct layout as set by windows, but there will be some cases where that might not be true so ymmv
@@PaulTheFox1988 Not 100% sure, but I don't think cleartype has RBG support?
for the portrait mode, i think one of the usage is vertical games (mostly rhythm games tho) that require portrait monitor and high refresh rate
just bought the LG 48GQ800 - basically a C2 but with all the tvfeatures gutted and a matte screen and I love it. LG's panels are GOATed and OLED HDR is just UGH, can't wait til this is more common place so everyone can enjoy this
I feel like we are so close to a 27" 4k Oled, deffo waiting for one
are GPU's ready to power one tho ?
@@darrena2625 no different than any other 4k
Yeah, as soon as they release a 27" 4k OLED I'm buying it immediately
@@darrena2625 Not sure which rock you lived under, but I've been gaming on 4K TV for about 4 years now. Some games native, others with DLSS. Looks excellent.
@@darrena2625 They can power 4k 60 and sure. And Id be perfectly happy with 4k120 with this size, then I'm future proofed and dont need to update my monitor for a while!
I'll be interested to see how big of a problem burn in is compared to QD oled which doesn't use differently colored RGB oled subpixels
get a magnetic holder thingy and hide the remote, either under the desk or behind the monitor.
NO! Anthony said monitor endgame was 600hz, and we won't settle for anything less!!
I have gone through a few of these panels. My first panel burnt out and stopped turning on after two days. All the panels I got in were extrodanarally dim. I have not got one in that went over 120 nits at full screen brightness. You also can not turn off power saver with HDR turned on. I really hate that LG seeded super samples to some reviewers while the retail models are garbage. I went 4 panels in and they have all had different flaws that weren't present in reviewers panels. The Alienware DWF is still the better option. Even the G8 OLED from Samsung has given me less issues, and that thing was problem ridden.
I have an IPS 1080p monitor also from LG, and it also shows the screen time. I think it's just a standard feature for LG monitors. I paid $250 for this monitor. This OLED monitor is very pricey though, and for my gaming needs, I don't need 1440p just yet. I mostly game on my Nintendo Switch. Here's to hoping that Nintendo will come out with a spec bump soon, and that maybe there's going to be 1080p OLED monitors.
they should make a pocket for the remote at the back of the screen so you could stash it there and take it out whenever needed and use it comfortably and then put it back there, so it never gets displaced that way and it's easier than using the button thing
I just upgraded my LG 38 GL950 to the new LG 45 GR95QE - the HUGE size and aggressive 800R curve is about as immersive as it gets!
Sigh...
@@CorporateZombi ?
So, the LG 48GQ900-B is currently selling on Amazon for $1,169. Before Christmas it was going for around $800 on Amazon. Granted, it's only 120Hz, but it's 4k and 48" in a 16:9 aspect ratio. That probably means this one will see some pretty good deals in the near future well below MSRP, but also, if you don't need 240Hz...why wouldn't you upgrade to 4k and 48"? I love my 48GQ900-B, it is amazing.
Because most people don't have enough space for a 48" monitor...
I like how you went full cinematic mode for this video. Maybe some lens flairs or drone shots next time?
I just checked both of my LG monitors (LG 32GK850F-B and LG 35WN65C-B.AUS) and both have Power On time in the menus. Pretty neat.
Until you realise it has a 1 yr warranty and burn in isn't covered
I normally agree with your views Plouffe, but considering that I can still buy the LG 27gl850 for $400 with 144hz/1440p/27in, I think we still have some ways to go for mainstream oled panels.
These LG monitors have been my favorite by far. Really great product line overall
9:35 just for the info, it is TOTAL POWER ON, not TOTAL DISPLAY ON, it means the time that display was being plugged into the power source. For example mine monitor has 17802h = 2.03 years, the monitor was purchased 1.feb.2021. and I can assure you that the display was not ON 24/7, but it was plugged in the power source most of the time.
I wanna start seeing monitors that are below 42 inches that are 4k and OLED and 240hz I want that ultra high PPI
32" 240Hz 4k (QD-)OLED ... a dream that will come true in the next 2 years i hope :D
What else I can ask for? 4k :(
He has a point
glossy
Right? I would take 4K over 240hz every day
Same here, please now in 32“ with 4K 120Hz.
Atleast if they released it in 4k here it probably cost 2500 to 3k here in Norway because this monitor in Norway is 1500$
Does it have USB-C? And does it have a gap between the image and backlight like regular LCD monitors? My old 27 inch monitor is gap free but almost every other monitor seems to have a 1mm gap. It creates a shadow on side scrollbars if you get too close. I want something like this but 4K. Or with mini leds so I don’t have to worry about the burn in.
My LG monitor from a few years ago shows power on time in the OSD menu also.
I'm waiting for Linus' take on PS VR2.
I'm very excited for that video.
meh too many restrictions with the console
index is the way to go or just wait for quest 3
@@realghostxd index is super old , if you want good image quality you shoud go for varjo aero
@@realghostxd He was pretty exited about it in WAN show, probably why OP want's to see the review!
@@Krydolph let's see what happens in a couple of days, im curious a out his full thoughts too
@@realghostxd Valve Index is not available for sale in my country. And even assuming I'm willing to go forward with that approach, it's USD 1k for VR, then there's the whole.... mount IR columns, buy newer graphics card, etc.
I already own a PS5, so $500 for a single cabled solution is very attractive in my opinion.
edit: I found valve index on local amazon, for USD 1,750. index controllers are USD 600+.
I am actually considering downgrading from my 4K display to this because it would be more responsive, games would run a lot better, and HDR on OLED looks epic.
Odd question sorry about that. I have 2k monitor. And i really want to start gaming on 4k but imma buy high responsive monitor which theres only one and 4090 or 4090ti in future. Does games on 4k lag or graphics is not too responsive on high refresh rate? Or it depends on gpu/cpu bound. At this point idk if i wanna upgrade to 4k trying to ask ppl whos there
@@Mysta_X Most decent gaming monitors are quite responsive even when they are IPS panels and LED backlit. The real issue is that 4K is just so much more demanding than 1440P to run. I have a 3080 gaming OC which is the largest and hottest graphics card I can fit in my current case and it is perfectly capable of playing very demanding games at high detail and maintaining a steady 60FPS at 4K but the difference between 60FPS and 120FPS is very noticeable when games require driving or shooting.
If you are going with something like the 4090, then this won't be an issue on most 4K panels. I am using the ASUS ROG PG32UQX and it is plenty responsive for my needs. I just feel like it needs a lot more graphics card to fully utilize the display.
Downgrading to this LG OLED panel would be a lot less expensive than upgrading my PC with a 40 series graphics card.
@@Piketom1 i agree with that statement so much. I just really want to try game on a 4k setup to just notice any visual appeal or even difference. All my homies say its just like 2k u wont notice difference this and that. But i have ps5 ob a good led tv it looks smooth on some games but friends always recommend to stick to 2k. I might buy the lg oled or the new asus oled. Do u have any details about both monitors? ik rog asus is always to go for monitors but this lg looks so great negative thing about it is its not too bright of a screen
@@Mysta_X Especially when you have a large display, the extra resolution of 4K is very noticeable. I was just playing cyberpunk on my PC last night for the first time since upgrading to 4k and there are some details in the world, player, and texture, that I could not discern at lower resolutions. It's the type of thing I would never have known I was missing until I experienced playing the game at a higher res. If you can swing a 4080 or 4090, then 4K would be the way to go. I have not used an OLED gaming monitor but I have an LG 65C1 in my living room connected to my series X for couch gaming. The extra responsiveness of the OLED panel makes games feel like they are running at a higher FPS than they actually are.
I watched your videos. I am torn between this LG 27GR95QE-B and the Alienware AW2723DF as a 2nd monitor. I already have an Alienware 34' oled and an Alienware Aurora R16. I really like the AW2723DF design and works well with my set up but at the same time I dont know if that LG Oled will be so much better in terms of picture quality. As a 2nd monitor, I only mainly use it to stream movies and my first monitor would be the gaming. I need advice if you can tell me which one I should get. Thanks!
The real question is does it run at 10bit color in nvidia while you run it at 240hz? I hate that my dell qdoled 34" runs at 8bit color when its set to the full 175hz.. 8bit color looks much worse.
I'm wishing for 27" 120or165hz 1440p qdoled monitor for $500~$600, someday I'll buy it 🤞🏻
I think the move to OLED is amazing for sure but the price point is still too high to see a real movement begin. This same monitor at $750 would be a real push for more OLED movement, but at a grand it is still outside decent pricing. Also I would love to see this in a 32" model, could drop it down to 144hz or even 120hz and I would be happy.
It's like 1300$ were i live in Sweden.
@@Justmakesomenoiz $860 for a day here in Hungary.
$800 right now and I'm gonna get one today 😊
For the power on count: My old HP W2408 had that in 2006. It did come with a CFL backlight though. I suppose for LED it does not matter as much anymore.
edit: It matters for OLED when selling
Most HP monitors have the power on hours in the menu. My EliteDisplay E271i has 44269, LA2306x has 31304 and LP1965 has 29699 hours. The LP1965 has CCFL backlight and the others have LED
I will wait till these come down to reasonable pricing. Been running 1440p for 10 years now (DELL's) and 27" is the def sweet spot.
Thank you for putting Plouffe in the thumbnails, it makes it incredibly easy to skip those videos. :D
Crazy that I could never go back to something as small as 27" now.
I feel the opposite, wish we were seeing more 24" 4K monitors again like the pre-pandemic days. Can't stand the low DPI of 27"+ monitors, especially at 1440p
@@DeathRay2K You have to turn on 200% scaling just for that to be usable
@@jonny2085 Not at all, 200% makes everything too big and reduces desktop real estate too much. 150% is the perfect sweet spot at that size and resolution.
I personally think if the cables in the IO go "up" they are less likely to bend down or ware down the input ports.
here's a bit of a tech tip.
you know how you said how annoying it is for the protective foam cover is open on the side and not on the bottom?
the stand is able to rotate 90 for portrait mode like you showed. you can just pivot the mounting plate on the stand before attaching it to the monitor. allowing you to attach the monitor from the side while it's still it it's foam cover.
no need to rip open the protective foam.
What else can I ask for? A 240Hz 4K 32:9 panel.
...And a GPU to drive it that fast. Some day, not today, but some day... Hurry up Nvidia and panel makers, I _will_ give you my money.
*_Why not 480Hz, 8K 64:9?_*
@@kevindie since 128:9 is clearly superior but still too far in the future
youd really have to be into competitive gaming to get one of those instead of a 42-55" 4k oled
Thats why its targeted to those people lol
@ShortCircuit I noticed when you start playing the video for hdr impressions you didn’t even have HDR enabled for video. Firefox does not support hdr through it. If you would’ve used edge as the browser it would’ve had the hdr enabled for the video
I remember the HP LP2275w when I had it. Only reason I remember it is because it's the only other monitor I ever used that had backlight hours listed.
my main issue with OLED is the burn in issues im scared off. Its expensive and as Monitor u gotta use it a lot not like a TV which you turn on to play some nice singleplayer games etc. On daily PC use u have a lot of static elements or in shooters your crosshair for example so there is that.
It is not really an issue anymore. There are videos of people leaving modern oleds on 24/7 for 1000 days before burn in occurs.
@@thelittledetailscr7231*_👆👆👆👆👆_*
I have had my 48CX oled since it was released. 9082 hours screen on time at 80% backlight. No burn in or retention. This is with thousands of hours of windowed youtube, 1000s of hours FPS gaming on PC and XBOX. Its pretty easy to mitigate burn in now days.
@@thelittledetailscr7231 I get that but still, im buying something that will knowingly die one day for an obvious reason.
@@darryljack6612 modern monitors tend to die these days because of power circuit failure faster than oled burn in anyways. Burn in isn't exclusive to oled to boot. Had a 40" VA panel burn in quicker than my current 48" oled which still has zero burn in over 9000 hours 🤷
Honestly ive been waiting a long time for a 1440p oled so im pumped af for this. That being said ill prolly wait a year or two longer to make sure those no issues with them and maybe qdoled will be out
Life's too short bro. Get it now DO IT
@@lance4454 I already have 2 decent monitors. Plus the bleeding edge is bleeding for a reason. Id rather wait a little bit and get one when the technology is ripe and also a bit less expensive
me too. I do alot of productivity work and gaming.... and text quality on OLED is meh plus taskbar burn-in is possible also according to Hardware Unboxed.... right now I have a 27gl850-b LG 1440P 144htz and it's amazing except contrast ratio sucks as with all IPS monitors. maybe I will just have to have a dual monitor setup if the text thing isn't figured out...
@@corndog2181 i have 2 acer predators that are pretty nice in terms of response times but god are the blacks awful and they have horrible backlight bleed. Theyre decent monitors but for the price i wouldve expected better. As for oled i dont do any color work and i dont really need them for productivity so those aspects dont really matter to me but im very concerned about burn in. For now im going to wait just a bit longer. Ive already been waiting for a few years for it to drop from 4k monitors to 1440p i can wait a little longer for the rest of the issues to be ironed out
@Souliset me too. text quality looks blurry to me on OLED and I do a lot of financial work on my PC and I know it will bother me as well as burn-in from being on static screen's , desktop, and lots of web browsing. i don't want to have a dual monitor setup. my lg 27gl850 is amazing. No backlightt bleed whatsoever but does have minor IPS glow as they all do and blacks are really dark Grey's . hahah...
You guys should test all the included cables in the video on short circuit
Just bought a Toshiba 20af43 CRT that displays the screen on time. From what I remember it's been powered on over 9000 (lol) hours. Not too much over a year. It's almost too bright and vibrant lol
I'll wait a few years until these are around 500 bucks. I think we'll get there soon.
Glad to see these seeing more production and better pricing.
I've had this monitor since early January and it's been a big regret of mine. I've ran into so many issues that the time spent on troubleshooting it has been nearly equivalent to actual gameplay time. Also, the remote for my LG C1 48" turns on the monitor, so whenever I watch TV, my monitor turns on which terminates any active pixel cleaning. I've also used the QDOLED Alienware and not only did I have zero minutes spent troubleshooting it, but the HDR, brightness/colors are SIGNIFICANTLY superior. Man I should've kept the Alienware.
Why'd you return the Alienware?
but this one is 37% faster so its automatically better. you cant be a real gamer unless you constantly hit 240hz. in all seriousness, 200 bucks more for qd oled is the right choice. plus you get 34% more pixels with the AW
@@Emolga2225 is it worth the extra 200-300 bucks really tho?
considrring returning the alienware for thiss
@@kylesmith5893 imo i think that refresh rate isnt priority number one in the oled monitor market. if you wanted a high refresh rate monitor, you would get a good IPS like Gigabyte M27Q.
if you havent already, i would watch the ltt video about refresh rate and make the choice yourself.
if this is about ultrawide, get the LG.
@@archaelia I've been spoiled by 240hz for years, and so downgrading to the alienware's 175hz was notable. I thought the LG would be essentially identical to the Alienware but @ 240hz.. I was wrong.
Hey guy, going to do a new PC build after 7 years (the previous system was an i7 4790k/GTX 970 paired with a 1080p 42 inch TV). What should I be aiming for as a OLED monitor/TV? I prefer larger screens so I can lay on my bed and watch videos/film when not gaming/working on the computer. Is 27 inch 1440p 240 hertz right for me? Should I look at OLED 4K 144 hertz at a larger screen size? Perhaps 32 inch or larger? I think I'm going with a 7900x/RTX 4090 PC build (maybe 7900xtx).
My old HP monitor does have power on hours and it's a 2009 model, so that feature isn't that new, still rocking it as a secondary display with 65k hours on it.
this would be sweet if they could fix the burn in problem! cool to see new attempts at OLED
its pretty much fixed
@@AlanMane No no, it’s not a chance it’s a guarantee of the technology. Even with pixel shift there is still no solution for the near future. A good example would be the Alienware qdoleds, they still have a ton of burn in issues for some buyers. That being said some are totally fine.
@@Eminetics Its a guarantee under circumstances you most likely will never see in home usage and with some basic "new rules"... use screen saver, again :) and just auto hide task bar. Since you know about the problem you must know that burn in happens after hours and hours of constant picture, and it was on old OLEDs, not fresh screens, Im certain they are better now, I use PC pretty much all day every day and the only constant thing is taskbar, and its constant only cause I dont care since I dont have OLED.
Point is yes, its possible, but its not like normal monitors cant have burned pixels, but its a rare occurrence, they also loosing brightness after a time. Just adapt a little, meet tech half way while we wait for microLED which is supposedly have all pros and no cons.... or just wait microLED and dont touch OLED. Btw - a lot of TVs are OLED now and affordable, I dont see mass panic and complains about burnin and what they show on TV is much more dangerous in this regard.
@@Haarba1 yeah for sure I know how it works, have a oled tv
OLED burn in problems was solved long time ago, except perhaps for cheap models, my Sony AF9 have been running every day for 4,5 years now and has zero burn in, I can post video proof if you don't belive it.
I really want to see more glossy panels
Feels like a waste to hide it all behind matte panels
Far less people play in very dark areas though, with lower average brightness it’s not easy to make a glossy screen not awful in medium+ lit rooms.
13:14 "I love how fast pickle response time of OLED is"
Display port cable is there for multi monitor setup. Most gpus only have 1 hdmi port these days
Just for price comparison, I bought the FO48U from amazon for $850 us before tax in December. The sale price fluctuates wildly on that monitor so keep an eye out if you are interested. It's a 48 inch, 4k, 120hz OLED. 48inch is probably too big, but IMO 27 is way too small so I'm sure there's some differing opinions. Point is there are some options, and 240hz is just plain overkill.
"I wouldn't mind if they have a bit more column to make it more sturdy." Not a fan of the random pho-engineer comments that come to an unjustified conclusion. The device hasn't even been tested yet and he's making comments about design choices on how to improve it. But we're not even sure if its sufficient already; nor if this is a problem. This is a really destructive way Plouffe usually comments and reviews things - he has observations, and goes "well if it was 10 x thicker/bigger/better it could be better" without even testing if it ISN'T sufficient enough as is. It makes sufficient/high performing products look lacking when they're not. Poor commentary.
I love how the thumbnail teases at possibly affordable.... just to click the link to see a $1000 monitor staring at you.
If you could store the remote inside the top of the stand do you think that’s a better solution? When you’d need it you’d stand up and grab it. But most the time it’s tucked away.
The 200cd/m² brightness is a very down argument for this monitor.
To be honest, it is a deal-breaker to me.
But I get that LG has to offer less in something to keep the price down, while also guarantee that not many monitors come back under warranty due to image retention.
I also want the navigation joystick back!
The long press is just... BAD!
Question: Is Burnin Still a thing on these newer OLED Monitors.
with TVs i get it, that the problem is not as bad, but on a monitor where the taskbar for example is visible for a majority of the time, im not sure.
Does anyone have information about this?
I’ve had this monitor for four days. I have it mounted on a monitor arm and it’s so thin that without the chin underneath the bezel I wouldn’t even be able the adjust it the slightest bit.
When is this releasing in Australia?
How does this oled compare to the quantum dot oled displays you reviewed before (like the ones from alienware)?
Remotes are great for monitors doing double duty as a TV like dorms and spare rooms.
Pro tip for remotes like that. Grab some adhesive hook and pile (Velcro) tape, slap one on the back of the remote and the other somewhere like the back of the monitor 🤙🏻
You're talking about slapping adhesive residue all over a monitor that costs a grand. At that price point, it really ought to include an integrated holder for the remote in the stand. Maybe a rare earth magnet in the stand and a little steel plate in the remote, or vice versa.
Bought a pc with a rtx4080 note I just need a monitor should I get this oled or is there anything better…please help..
This is the one panel I’m thinking of upgrading from my LG 27GL850 . Mainly for the OLED though, the extra HZ isn’t that important over 144 to me.
Same here, but as it is now, I don't think it's worth the money to be an "early adopter" of this technology. Power usage is more than double of the 27GL850, it needs a fan to cool the monitor!
People are also saying it's even less bright the the 27GL850. And the price is more than TRIPLE of what a 27GL850 costs here in Denmark.. That's expensive :-/
@@sighheinrich Yeah those are some great points. I didn’t know it was dimmer than the GL850, and I didn’t know it was actively cooled either! Do you know if the fan is very loud or not?
@@MarioGoatse you can't hear the fan if you sit at least 20cm away (which you def should, lol).
It's very very quiet and for sure more quiet than your PC
I'd like to see a place on the back of the monitor or the stand to store the remote control when not in use.
I personally have 2x LG 27GL83A-B 27" QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC monitors. I'll wait a couple more years for this to come down in price, after all its bleeding edge for a reason.
Can anyone tell me since this does not have gsync ultimate, can you get a 240fps with HDR 10 and using gsync at the same time? Assuming I can pump out 240fps at 1440p with a HDR game.
Hexagons are cool to me because they tesselate without producing a continuous seam, which from a structural perspective would present an axis of potential slippage.
That’s probably too high falluting to leave without further explanation, so like a brick wall is a tessellation of bricks, they overlap up and down, but not side to side so they can slip sideways. You make a wall out of hexagons and they all lock each other in place. Triangles and squares readily tesselate but they have several axis along which they can slip. Which is why they can be made into rubric cubes.
To me the primary appeal of Hexagons is how they lock together. So when I think of a hexagon on the back of a monitor, I see design potential for a mounting format that could interface with other modules.
An array of monitors naturally comes to mind, but it could be anything, you could wall mount a hexagonal pc, an eGPU, power conditioner, speakers, acoustic panels, shelving, lighting, the whole wall could be a veritable hive of sweetass dopery, and I could be the Hyper Queeen!
But I guess what they did here for some like cosmetic reasons is cool too. I like the big ball joint allot, I think if they beefed that up and chromed it out it would be really stylish. Or like a huge Orb with fish in it. But They’d have to be some really smart and really fast talking fish to relay all that data.
And then you gotta fit electric eels in there too, and they’re ocean fish so you got all this seaside slang and dielectric dialects.
So hear me out, Psychic Hexagonal Starfish, and then like a tidy little cable management strip. But before you fly off the rails with your irrationally psychotic discomfort for back panel covers, just think about how neat and tidy it will be to not have the orb stuffed with eels.
Sure there will be a slight trip hazard because these will be mounted on the floor, but just think about it.
That bump in the back it's huge. How they didn't manage to fit the power supply in there?
13:14 "I love how fast the pickle response time of OLED is"
if we are not supposed to use DP cable, what cable should we use?
Hey, why at my oled lg is "smart energy saving" grey and i cant turn it off or on ?
Still thinking if I'm going to get this since they say its too dim. Maybe I will check what will other's release or wait for improved version of this.
This is some what im looking for. Only missing is Usb-c with 65w+ pd
My end game is an OLED display with similar specs but without an anti-glare coating >.> I still might get that one though depending on how the year goes
6:00 just buy proper vesa stand once and use it forever. tilt, swivel, shake, space for keyboard, cable management, etc