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@@Insomniac89 yeah but you can become an expert in a relatively short period of time. VGA started phasing out a long time ago and I'd consider it near archaic at this point. He's probably more of an expert on modern tech.
I was thinking it would cost around 100 bucks or even less. But for that price (+ 30 bucks) I got a 240hz refresh rate monitor with gsync from LG. (Sold by Amazon)
I’m in the same boat as you. I would not consider a 27 inch 1080p because of pixel density. Since other aspects of the monitor were good I would say $120 max for this.
Not to mention buying Amazon basics products is helping Amazon undercut its own customers (the companies that sell products on it) only to eventually raise the prices on us when they kill competition.
Yeah, I paid $30 less for a brand new 165hz 24" 1080p panel a month ago. I just looked and that panel is still cheaper than this Amazon Basics monitor.
D-SUB refers to the actual physical connector. All D-SUB connectors start with “D” for the overall shape of the shroud; the second letter (A-E) indicates the overall size of the shroud, and number is the number of pins. The VGA connector is DE-15, most serial and RS-232 ports are DE-9, etc. There are other letters, mostly denoting the gender (P for pin/plug, S for socket) and other types of D sub connectors, but those were usually for specialized use cases.
The HDR mode is just a different definition of HDR. It means when the colours are outside the range e.g. (R,G,B)510,255,255 it will tone map the values down 255,127,127 instead of clamping the values 255,255,255 (numbers for illustration only). I would actually love a video on the different definitions of HDR, there are 3 off the top of my head
We need better videos of HDR in general. I love my PCs but know nothing about HDR, I just know it makes my screen brighter lol. Probably because I have a crappy version.
@@bad1971nova Lol I am the same. Been building pcs since Pentium4 days but didn't fully appreciate display quality until like a few years ago. 5 years ago I went into my local Walmart and bought a cheap 55-inch 4k tv that had hdr on the box...then I got home and wondered why it didn't look better than the old 32-inch 720p sony bravia I was trying to replace.
@@andrewgoss1682 HDR is a deep subject; it'd probably need to be a multi-part series on Techquickie to keep it digestible. Light Illusion's "What is HDR?" article covers the meat and potatoes without being misleading like simpler explanations tend to be, but it might be a dense read if you're new to the topic.
That's technically not a definition of "HDR" though, that's a definition of "wide color gamut". Granted, usually if a display supports HDR, it also supports wide color gamut, but there are a fair few monitors that support one or the other. And admittedly some industry definitions have started requiring wide color gamut support on anything labeled HDR...
I bought this exact monitor. It's actually much better than I thought it would be. Very responsive picture and nice image quality. Pleasantly surprised.
@@s.i.m.c.a Not sure what games you're playing that can't get that kind of FPS, but 165hz is the monitor overclocked. I use 120hz and even if you can't get that kind of FPS having a higher refresh rate still makes things look and play more smooth. If you've never played on high refresh rate before then you can't understand. Playing on 60hz vs 120hz is night and day.
Super respectable as a business monitor. If they released this back at the start of Covid when people were starting to work from home this would have done absurd amounts of units.
This monitor does look very nice, however at the time of writing the KOORUI 24" monitor does seem to have an edge. Up to 165hz (with DisplayPort), IPS, sharp colors, it's not HDR but at its price of $129.99, that's a given.
Did the same looking them up, AOC's own same monitor is $110. And the Koorui 27" was still cheaper than the Amazon Basic rebrand. The 24" ones were much cheaper. So yeah you could certainly find better monitors than this one, I don't usually expect much from Amazon Basics, but the one thing I tend to expect is them being cheaper than almost everyone else, this is just odd.
the thing about Amazon branded products is they are known to be CHEAP and discounted heavily more than anything else during Amazon Prime day and Black Friday/cyber Monday sales. Don't be surprised come those holidays they are under $100
I have a mildly more expensive AOC 1080p 144hz monitor and I can confirm that: The OSD is stock standard just like the one on my monitor The colour accuracy is also very similarly good And the speakers are...there
I have a G2460PF and a CU34G2X, exact same OSD, love the panels. I stuck with AOC because of their warranty for gaming panels. 1 year no questions replacement, and they mean it. I bumped the edge of my ultrawide when moving my desk and killed the panel. Within 3 days I had a full replacement, no cost to me. Love AOC
2:27 "It says D-SUB, but it looks like VGA to me." Ahh, kids these days... ;) D-SUB is the type of connector, VGA is the signal that is sent on a D-SUB 15 connector. VGA, Game port, Serial ports, Printer ports, even SCSI were all D-SUB connectors at least on one end.
Really appreciate when you guys do some reviews of budget options. It's still cool to see the things I can't even dream of ever owning, but it's nice to get some information on the ones I might too.
@@JakeKentner Yeah, when I saw the price I was like "nah". Plus, I already have a 75hz 1080p display, but it's 24"...been thinking about maybe going to a 27", especially if I make any other upgrades to my setup/system
I have some AOC monitors and you seem to have the exact same menu. I think they just re-used the same menu without adding the actual functionality. Sidenote: 150$ isn't a great deal. My AOC monitors were 155$ and they are 144HZ with red shiny underbars, HDR 400 and an OS joystick. The only letdown I'd say is the pixel response time, which is worst when you're running something at 30fps or 60fps (old games) and it has lots of shadows. It leaves these big ass red and black streaks. But they're great for secondary screens with good colors.
On the height: most corporate learning materials in the US states that your eyes should meet the top of your monitor and you should keep your head upright and look down at it for the best ergonomics. The height is “perfect” for an office setting.
2:26 Linus, please hire staff who have reasonable fundamentals with computer hardware. he doesn't know that the 15 pin D-SUB (DE-15) is what the VGA connector is based on?
2:57 Ergonomic guides usually say that the top of the bezel should be about level with your eyes, so the height looks pretty much spot on. You're supposed to have your head upright and looking slightly downwards. Personal preferences of course vary, but this looks like where they should put it by default.
Was just curious because its "Amazon Basics" so I looked it up real fast. This one is listed at $165, AOC's own brand of almost the exact same thing is sitting at $110. And almost every other 27" monitor of the same quality, non-big name brand, are between $100 and $130. Not sure why Amazon Basic brand is much more than the others.
Because they can rig their site to push their Amazon Basics one to the top of the results, so they can still get lots of exposure and people looking at it, without it having to be the cheapest. And some people (unfortunately) actually trust Amazon Basics to be good products for a decent price, so might just go with that since it's an easy option.
the question isnt why is amazon ripping people off, it's why is there a short circuit video talking good about an overpriced eye sore? Pointless video.
@@pcguy98 I'm guessing they just thought it was a decent monitor more than anything and didn't do a whole lot of price shopping to compare. The labs is just starting up so might not have a lot of monitor testing done quite yet. They will likely have a whole section on the site once that is up showing all that data. But yeah does feel like a mostly pointless video, there are going to be some of those now and again.
Neat monitor for the price. It doesn't suck! BTW, D-Sub is the connector. VGA was a display standard, not a connector, so D-Sub is correct, but most people (sort of mistakenly) call it a VGA connector.
D-Sub isn't even a specific connector; there are variants with different sizes and numbers of pins. "VGA connector" seems like a reasonable enough term for a DE-15 female connector wired for VGA, even if the same physical connector is used for other things, and the same electrical signals are occasionally sent over a different connector.
@@ids1024 For sure. Once a name becomes used enough for something, it becomes the norm. But as far as I recall, VGA was the display standard of 640x480, SVGA was 800x600, and at the time, D-Sub connectors were used on those monitors (which ended up supporting much higher resolutions than the original 640x480), and so came to be called, simply, VGA connectors by most. Not a huge deal, really, but the presenter did mention that it looks like a VGA connector, implying the D-Sub label might be wrong (which it wasn't).
That monitor height actually looks a little tall. For correct ergonomics, the top of the monitor should be in line with your eyes so you’re looking down!
I got 3 of these a few months ago to put on a monitor arm. I don't game much, but with regards to text and daily usage I've found them to be pretty great for my needs
5:40 Eh, especially in this category of non-gaming oriented monitors I'd probably rather take a VA than an IPS. In desktop etc. use I don't find black trails that much of an issue, and I very much get turned off by IPS glow and crap contrast. And when (based on Rtings measurements) the best IPS panel can't quite match the worst VA panels (~2100:1 and ~2200:1 respectively), and usually you end up more like 1300:1 vs. 3000:1, I prefer going with VA.
The thing is likely to be dirt cheap on prime day or black friday/cyber monday sales....you know how they drastically reduce their Amazon branded products during those time of year
I realise that these aren't reviews, but I'd love to see overclocking included; my 75Hz goes up to a stable 108Hz... you'd be amazed how much more you can push out of a budget monitor.
Is there a version of this available not sold by Amazon? I don't want to support Amazon but if this is just drop shipped by AOC then maybe there's hope Newegg, Best Buy, or even Walmart carries it?
I actually like the horizontal OSD. I wish we had more choices for OSD orientation. Like seeing more budget stuff. Sometimes it is more impressive than the newest simply being a little bit better than the last.
Love it when the Canadian channel does a product that doesn't show up on Canadian Amazon... Basically the exact same OSD on this thing as my AOC monitor I bought back in 2017.
aoc literally has this same exact monitor for cheaper but it has 144hz refreshrate lol, its literally the G2490W1G4, plus it also uses actual AMD G-sync.
How about Iiyama ProLite XUB2793HS-B5? It has everything as this monitor + RJ45 port and USB-C with power delivery. Great as an extra monitor for a laptop.
75hz is 25% more than most have. and if you just want 3 for work and a bit of gaming on the side? this is fine. if you can get them into an ergonomically viable position.
AOC monitors have this vertical OSD, it's not amazing but there's quite a few options. I have a 144hz 1440p monitor as my main, it's pretty good for how cheap it was ^^
I have an AOC 144 Hz monitor from them and I think it's pretty decent. It's VA unfortunately, but if that's something that you're able to put up with it's pretty okay. Although I bought it on sale for 117 and currently I'm pretty sure it's like 124
I love the D-Sub marker on the monitor 😂. I only knew that connector as the Dsub15 for many years, since the Dsub connectors are common on the robotic controllers I used to work with for my job and I only used DVI or HDMI for displays. I had thought it was some sort of GPIO pin interface for monitors until someone told me about VGA.
I actually find 27" 1080P monitors to be pretty much perfect as I don't need glasses to read the text on them. They also tie in nicely with both 34" and 49" 1080P ultrawides as they're essentially 1.5 and 2 27" panels respectively so match up size wise vertically. Pricing might be a little different in the UK but AOC prices are decent over here, they're on par with Samsung for the same feature sets. I wouldn't buy that one though as unless the pricing is significantly different it wouldn't cost me much more for a similarly specced 120 Hz panel.
That OSD is standard for AOC monitors. I have it identically on my 2nd monitor which is an older AOC TN 1440p monitor. For 150 dollars you can find a better monitor, not IPS, but you can get a VA 144hz 1080p panel which I would recommend instead of a 75hz IPS.
I was about to recommend the Huawei Mateview SE, since I got a couple of them as secondary screens and for travel, 24", 1080p, 75Hz, (height adjustable + rotatable stand optional), very nice colors (90% P3), way more elegant look and thinner bezels and in the same price range as the AmazonBasic ones, but I forgot that Huawei is banned in the US. But maybe helpful for someone outside of the US. They also have 12V input instead of 110V/220V like the Amazon one, so I got a USB-C PD to barrel jack cable and when I travel I can just put them anywhere and use them with my Anker 737 powerbank which is really handy. On 50% brightness they pull only 8W or something and run like 10 hours.
Would personally never get something from Amazon if I can help it, but as it reads by AOC and I've had a good experience with my main AOC monitor, I'd buy the AOC branded version if I needed it. Or some similar model that suits my needs, AOC has been a brand I was sceptical of before but warmed up to through a good experience with one of their products. But as it's important to buy the product and not the brand, it depends on what is available when I need an upgrade. edit: 6:09 hey that's the same OSD as my monitor, it's pretty decent but the mode presets aren't great IMO. The speakers are horrible on mine but useful when I need something other than my headphones. Price is similar but mine has a worse VA panel, though mine reaches 144Hz, set to 120Hz.
Got a brand new SANC M2753, kazakh/chinese 27" 1080p va 75hz 280cd monitor with freesync and speakers for 80$(!) and for that price it's amazing. Bright, responsive, no backlight bleed or dead pixels, 100% view angles, vesa mount and 8mm bezels. And DPI is not a problem at all. It's great to see that display tech keeps evolving and getting substantially cheaper
Dsub is short for dsubminiature, of which dsub-9 is used for serial, and dsub-15 for VGA, they (serial and VGA) use the same outer housing form factor, but dsub 9 uses 2 rows with 4+5 pin, and dsub15 uses 3 offset rows 5+5+5 I dont remember but there may be a speciffic name for VGA, like serial uses something like DE-9, and VGA might be DE-15 or DF-15
You pointed out it has a very important feature for some people (vesa mount) but didn't test it Something simple as unthreaded holes missed by QA would be easily overlooked with this sort of methodology
I'm surprised they give you usb on it. That's usually a luxury on cheap monitors. Around this price point you can sometimes find good Monoprice monitors on sale. You gotta wait for the sales though.
I use the AOC 27" 4K monitor on an arm...because it was the cheapest 4K monitor I could find on Amazon at the time I bought it. But it's totally fine and I legitimately don't see anything that isn't glossy or OLED looking meaningfully better than this. I'm completely satisfied with what it is for the price, so I'm definitely a fan of AOC's offerings.
Considering, that I bought my Acer 27'' 170hz 1440p (technically HDR but it looks horrible but without it enabled its really great) Monitor for 250$ after tax and shipping I don't understand how this is a "good deal". That wasn't even a sale price it's just the monitors usual price. My point is, that for even 50$ more there are a lot better deals out there.
I love seeing built in stands like this. I am one who mounts their mac mini to the vesa mount and soooo many monitors have the built in stand in the way or flat out covering it. This looks like it would work
I wonder if it is simply an AOC monitor manufactured in a lower-cost facility. Like AOC builds in Korea (just an example, no idea if that is correct) with the Amazon version is built in Thailand (again, just an example.) Brand "X" products assembled in third-party facilities has long been a way to get a more economical product line.
When I first got my 75Hz monitor The difference in FEEL between 60 and 75Hz was amazing to me!! 60Hz feels smooth but kind of motion laggy 75Hz feels smooth AND very responsive! Now I have 165Hz and I do not notice the same leap I did when I first got the 75Hz :')
@2:30 D-sub is the same thing as VGA. get your facts straight This is what google says "When used as a monitor interface, a D-Sub port is also known as a VGA port, an analog connection standard that's been around for some time. The connector is a DE-15 connector with 15 pins in three rows, often referred to as a "mini-D-Sub 15-pin" or "D-Sub 15-pin" connector. (Some connectors omit unused pins.)"
This looks a lot like the old G2590VXQ but with evidently better colour accuracy, a 27” instead of 24.5” panel, better front controls than the rear-only nipple on the G2950, and included rear IO. All for about the same price as the G2950 sold for (in the U.K.) about 3-4 years ago. Pretty impressive. Shame about the Amazon logo on the front though. Life is grim enough without having to look at the Amazon logo while you’re at your desk.
I think I have the same panel and mold monitor as Nitro VG270 and picked up around the same price. Anything with this are fine other than the speakers, any background noise will just make it unheard.
I'll one day come home from working at the Amazon factory to my Amazon basics house, where my Amazon basics wife has made me an Amazon basics meal. Our newly ordered Amazon basics kids are out for delivery. I'm so excited
I bought this monitor after watching this video. I was not even in the market for a new monitor but decided to replace my secondary. I am glad I did this monitor provides a better picture than my old ASUS monitor I bought in 2020. For its purpose it is excellent!
At 5:50 he says that it is edge lit so you wont get full array local dimming. I have seen so many tvs and monitors spec'd as edge lit with full array local dimming. Are these companies lying or is that possible?
Just done a training course at work on display equipment health and safety 😒 If anything the display is a little bit high. Apparently the top bezel should be at eye height.
Ive personally never had issues with AOC monitors. Upgraded as they were 1080p and i went to 1440p and 1440p ultrawide. But all in all they were great for the 3 years i had em.
I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen VGA marked as anything other than D-SUB on the connector, Seeing it marked as anything else would be a surprise to me, not sure why it was a surprise for Plouffe?
Anyone having any issues with black levels? I just got one as a second monitor, but it looks super washed out and still too dim? Will probably return if I can't get it the colors to somewhat match...
I have an Acer and an AOC as my two monitors, bought within a few months of each other, and I definitely prefer the colors on my AOC. To the point it's my main monitor I stead of my more expensive Acer lol. It is also pretty low, but that works for me since I'm short.
I just recently got a windows key, but I haven't had a windows key for so long I kept seeing the "Activate Window" watermark on your screen and thought it was mine. Lol. It took me back there for a second.
Is this not just AOC's E24 and E27 lineup with Amazon's branding? They've sold those at Walmart for a while now for closer to $100, going up to $150+ I'd start to look for 144hz
I work for an IT company, and we actually sell AOC monitors. Had the chance to test a few and they're actually good value for money. I was surprisingly pleased. Granted, not a 4k 32:9 fancy Samsung/LG for a few thousand bucks but hey, if it's a basic screen for a-bit-of-everything kind of use on a budget you're looking for, it's really not bad!
Kinda off the subject but, My wife brought me home a older 27" 1080p monitor for me from her work to use as a discord monitor. Bad thing was no VESA mounts. It was then I discovered there is stick on VESA mount studs. 2 years later and have had zero issues.
That price really isn't that great: I've managed to snag 27" 1440p/75hz HDR FreeSync monitors for just under $200 twice (which have surprisingly lasted over two years without issue), and 1080p monitors have dipped to or even below $100 at times. But of course, all of those were on sale, which means this can probably get a decent sale price too.
Having only recently upgraded from a 1920×1200 TN 60hz monitor to a 1080p IPS 75hz with VRR, I feel that reviews don't always account for the users perceived experience. LTTs recent video on Alienwares new high refresh rate display drives home the idea of diminishing returns on upgrades. Once Labs let's us see comparisons across multiple generations of products, rather than what's in the current crop, it'll be a lot easier to know if the juice is worth the squeeze.
How is your experience with aoc? Do you like the screens? Was the price good? Does it compare to other brand? Just curious about experience by others As i didnt know aoc bought 1 anyway and Still happy with it
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ill decide when i finish the video
Nah, not a fan of 27" 1080p screens.
I would... if it was available in Europe.
Yes, because i dont like breaking the bank for a screen.
I'd be tempted, but I made the switch to 32 inch monitors and wont ever go back.
in the future we are gonna have amazon basics life support
Not on my deathbed would I trust them with that
amazon basics - You can inhalf and exhale once every 20 second
amazon prime - You can do that twice every 10 second
@@azuresflames2473 lmao
free 1 month with prime
Don't give them ideas
D-Sub is short of D-Subminiature which is a physical connector type, which most VGA and serial devices use.
Surprised he doesn’t know about this, being touted as such a monitor guy, must be that the rest of us are just dinosaurs compared to him
@@Insomniac89 yeah but you can become an expert in a relatively short period of time. VGA started phasing out a long time ago and I'd consider it near archaic at this point. He's probably more of an expert on modern tech.
I came looking for this comment
Finally at the point where people don't know what D Sub is, yikes
@@mduff94the future is now, old man.
I was thinking it would cost around 100 bucks or even less. But for that price (+ 30 bucks) I got a 240hz refresh rate monitor with gsync from LG. (Sold by Amazon)
exactly, this review is absolutely insane, waste of time
Agree, I actually don't think this is a good deal at all
I’m in the same boat as you. I would not consider a 27 inch 1080p because of pixel density. Since other aspects of the monitor were good I would say $120 max for this.
Not to mention buying Amazon basics products is helping Amazon undercut its own customers (the companies that sell products on it) only to eventually raise the prices on us when they kill competition.
Yeah, I paid $30 less for a brand new 165hz 24" 1080p panel a month ago. I just looked and that panel is still cheaper than this Amazon Basics monitor.
D-SUB refers to the actual physical connector. All D-SUB connectors start with “D” for the overall shape of the shroud; the second letter (A-E) indicates the overall size of the shroud, and number is the number of pins. The VGA connector is DE-15, most serial and RS-232 ports are DE-9, etc. There are other letters, mostly denoting the gender (P for pin/plug, S for socket) and other types of D sub connectors, but those were usually for specialized use cases.
The HDR mode is just a different definition of HDR. It means when the colours are outside the range e.g. (R,G,B)510,255,255 it will tone map the values down 255,127,127 instead of clamping the values 255,255,255 (numbers for illustration only).
I would actually love a video on the different definitions of HDR, there are 3 off the top of my head
We need better videos of HDR in general. I love my PCs but know nothing about HDR, I just know it makes my screen brighter lol. Probably because I have a crappy version.
@@bad1971nova I have a vague understanding of hdr but... Yeah I could use a techquickie on it
@@bad1971nova Lol I am the same. Been building pcs since Pentium4 days but didn't fully appreciate display quality until like a few years ago. 5 years ago I went into my local Walmart and bought a cheap 55-inch 4k tv that had hdr on the box...then I got home and wondered why it didn't look better than the old 32-inch 720p sony bravia I was trying to replace.
@@andrewgoss1682 HDR is a deep subject; it'd probably need to be a multi-part series on Techquickie to keep it digestible. Light Illusion's "What is HDR?" article covers the meat and potatoes without being misleading like simpler explanations tend to be, but it might be a dense read if you're new to the topic.
That's technically not a definition of "HDR" though, that's a definition of "wide color gamut". Granted, usually if a display supports HDR, it also supports wide color gamut, but there are a fair few monitors that support one or the other. And admittedly some industry definitions have started requiring wide color gamut support on anything labeled HDR...
I bought this exact monitor. It's actually much better than I thought it would be. Very responsive picture and nice image quality. Pleasantly surprised.
Shouldve bought the Acer Nitro 165hz Monitor for $20 less
@@fusi0nn what sense on getting 165 hz monitor, if you GPU would never output that framerate? )
@@s.i.m.c.a Not sure what games you're playing that can't get that kind of FPS, but 165hz is the monitor overclocked. I use 120hz and even if you can't get that kind of FPS having a higher refresh rate still makes things look and play more smooth. If you've never played on high refresh rate before then you can't understand. Playing on 60hz vs 120hz is night and day.
I feel bad having that Amazon logo there to remind me I helped Amazon get richer while taking money from the smaller guys
@@MCCENTx2 Evey products built in China does that exact same thing
Super respectable as a business monitor. If they released this back at the start of Covid when people were starting to work from home this would have done absurd amounts of units.
It stayed OOS.
If AOC is making it then they had zero spare capacity to make monitors for other brands. They were getting more $$$ selling direct.
This monitor does look very nice, however at the time of writing the KOORUI 24" monitor does seem to have an edge. Up to 165hz (with DisplayPort), IPS, sharp colors, it's not HDR but at its price of $129.99, that's a given.
Did the same looking them up, AOC's own same monitor is $110. And the Koorui 27" was still cheaper than the Amazon Basic rebrand. The 24" ones were much cheaper. So yeah you could certainly find better monitors than this one, I don't usually expect much from Amazon Basics, but the one thing I tend to expect is them being cheaper than almost everyone else, this is just odd.
@@JohnA... i also saw reviews for the AB one, saying that they got the 24" for around $75 last Prime Day, which'll be a huge advantage in the future
the thing about Amazon branded products is they are known to be CHEAP and discounted heavily more than anything else during Amazon Prime day and Black Friday/cyber Monday sales. Don't be surprised come those holidays they are under $100
I have a mildly more expensive AOC 1080p 144hz monitor and I can confirm that:
The OSD is stock standard just like the one on my monitor
The colour accuracy is also very similarly good
And the speakers are...there
27G2 same here
Had a 1080p AOC monitor from 2015 with the exact same OSD, so it hasn't changed since then at least.
Yep, I've got 2 AOC 24G2s, fantastic 144Hz 1080p screens, same OSD.
That's the EXACT same OSD from old AOC monitors. 10+ years ago lol
I have a G2460PF and a CU34G2X, exact same OSD, love the panels. I stuck with AOC because of their warranty for gaming panels. 1 year no questions replacement, and they mean it. I bumped the edge of my ultrawide when moving my desk and killed the panel. Within 3 days I had a full replacement, no cost to me. Love AOC
2:27 "It says D-SUB, but it looks like VGA to me."
Ahh, kids these days... ;)
D-SUB is the type of connector, VGA is the signal that is sent on a D-SUB 15 connector.
VGA, Game port, Serial ports, Printer ports, even SCSI were all D-SUB connectors at least on one end.
Technically, D-Sub is the connector and VGA is the implementation ... similar to Thunderbolt using USB-C
Really appreciate when you guys do some reviews of budget options. It's still cool to see the things I can't even dream of ever owning, but it's nice to get some information on the ones I might too.
This is a terrible monitor for the price. You can get a 144hz panel that's the same size for $20 less or a 24" version that's 165hz for $30 less.
@@JakeKentner Yeah, when I saw the price I was like "nah". Plus, I already have a 75hz 1080p display, but it's 24"...been thinking about maybe going to a 27", especially if I make any other upgrades to my setup/system
I agree but this isn't really a budget option. You can get comparable monitors for hallf the price of this
However for 150$ you can also get an Viewsonic 144hz IPS gaming monitor, so idk is the price really justified ?
What size
@@danheckman8265 in my opinion the Monitor shown is already too large for 1080p. At 27'' the resolution should be at least 1440p I think.
@@danheckman8265 24in and often even 27in when on sale
Literally just bought a Acer Nitro 24" 165hz IPS monitor for 140$ from Amazon, further proving my point
I have some AOC monitors and you seem to have the exact same menu. I think they just re-used the same menu without adding the actual functionality.
Sidenote: 150$ isn't a great deal. My AOC monitors were 155$ and they are 144HZ with red shiny underbars, HDR 400 and an OS joystick.
The only letdown I'd say is the pixel response time, which is worst when you're running something at 30fps or 60fps (old games) and it has lots of shadows. It leaves these big ass red and black streaks. But they're great for secondary screens with good colors.
On the height: most corporate learning materials in the US states that your eyes should meet the top of your monitor and you should keep your head upright and look down at it for the best ergonomics. The height is “perfect” for an office setting.
2:26 Linus, please hire staff who have reasonable fundamentals with computer hardware. he doesn't know that the 15 pin D-SUB (DE-15) is what the VGA connector is based on?
2:57 Ergonomic guides usually say that the top of the bezel should be about level with your eyes, so the height looks pretty much spot on. You're supposed to have your head upright and looking slightly downwards.
Personal preferences of course vary, but this looks like where they should put it by default.
Was just curious because its "Amazon Basics" so I looked it up real fast. This one is listed at $165, AOC's own brand of almost the exact same thing is sitting at $110. And almost every other 27" monitor of the same quality, non-big name brand, are between $100 and $130. Not sure why Amazon Basic brand is much more than the others.
Because they can rig their site to push their Amazon Basics one to the top of the results, so they can still get lots of exposure and people looking at it, without it having to be the cheapest. And some people (unfortunately) actually trust Amazon Basics to be good products for a decent price, so might just go with that since it's an easy option.
the question isnt why is amazon ripping people off, it's why is there a short circuit video talking good about an overpriced eye sore? Pointless video.
@@jubuttib Good point, I wasn't even thinking about the "Amazon suggested" label when I looked that up.
@@pcguy98 I'm guessing they just thought it was a decent monitor more than anything and didn't do a whole lot of price shopping to compare. The labs is just starting up so might not have a lot of monitor testing done quite yet. They will likely have a whole section on the site once that is up showing all that data. But yeah does feel like a mostly pointless video, there are going to be some of those now and again.
@@JohnA... I guess..
Neat monitor for the price. It doesn't suck! BTW, D-Sub is the connector. VGA was a display standard, not a connector, so D-Sub is correct, but most people (sort of mistakenly) call it a VGA connector.
D-Sub isn't even a specific connector; there are variants with different sizes and numbers of pins. "VGA connector" seems like a reasonable enough term for a DE-15 female connector wired for VGA, even if the same physical connector is used for other things, and the same electrical signals are occasionally sent over a different connector.
@@ids1024 For sure. Once a name becomes used enough for something, it becomes the norm. But as far as I recall, VGA was the display standard of 640x480, SVGA was 800x600, and at the time, D-Sub connectors were used on those monitors (which ended up supporting much higher resolutions than the original 640x480), and so came to be called, simply, VGA connectors by most.
Not a huge deal, really, but the presenter did mention that it looks like a VGA connector, implying the D-Sub label might be wrong (which it wasn't).
@@WSS_the_OG Not a huge deal for sure, but sadly typical for this "presenter"
2:30 15 pin D-SUB is the connector type typically used to carry VGA signals. The label on the monitor is technically correct.
6:16 I’ve seen that horizontal OSD on recent AOC branded monitors (I have a 1080p 120hz AOC curved monitor)
That monitor height actually looks a little tall. For correct ergonomics, the top of the monitor should be in line with your eyes so you’re looking down!
@3:00 I use the same kind of moniter by benq using a thick book as a stand😂😂
For some reason, I find a Amazon Basics monitor is weird to me. There's nothing wrong with it, just Amazon selling big things feels off.
I remember watching a video where someone in India showed an Amazon Basics TV they bought and were setting up.
I got 3 of these a few months ago to put on a monitor arm. I don't game much, but with regards to text and daily usage I've found them to be pretty great for my needs
2:27 D-sub is the type of connector used by VGA
You’d think a reviewer would know that, wouldn’t you…..?
Yup, a generic term; parallel ports, serial ports are also D-sub connectors
Yup, it's the shape of the connector, which resembles a D.
So this $150 monitor has the same stand adjustments (namely tilt) as a monitor that costs 10x as much, I guess we can let that slide!
I mean the g24f2 is 180hz and has great stand, should be the better choice
5:40 Eh, especially in this category of non-gaming oriented monitors I'd probably rather take a VA than an IPS. In desktop etc. use I don't find black trails that much of an issue, and I very much get turned off by IPS glow and crap contrast. And when (based on Rtings measurements) the best IPS panel can't quite match the worst VA panels (~2100:1 and ~2200:1 respectively), and usually you end up more like 1300:1 vs. 3000:1, I prefer going with VA.
Ohh it has one of those orange ports. That means it can still send power when it's off. Very handy for charging your phone or wireless headphones.
The thing is likely to be dirt cheap on prime day or black friday/cyber monday sales....you know how they drastically reduce their Amazon branded products during those time of year
16th and 17th, lets see!
I realise that these aren't reviews, but I'd love to see overclocking included; my 75Hz goes up to a stable 108Hz... you'd be amazed how much more you can push out of a budget monitor.
Damn, 2.5 delta on a 150 dollar monitor? That's actually impressive as hell
Is there a version of this available not sold by Amazon? I don't want to support Amazon but if this is just drop shipped by AOC then maybe there's hope Newegg, Best Buy, or even Walmart carries it?
Doing a web search, it seems that the model 27E1H is similar but doesn't have a built-in USB hub.
I actually like the horizontal OSD. I wish we had more choices for OSD orientation.
Like seeing more budget stuff. Sometimes it is more impressive than the newest simply being a little bit better than the last.
Love it when the Canadian channel does a product that doesn't show up on Canadian Amazon...
Basically the exact same OSD on this thing as my AOC monitor I bought back in 2017.
aoc literally has this same exact monitor for cheaper but it has 144hz refreshrate lol, its literally the G2490W1G4, plus it also uses actual AMD G-sync.
How about Iiyama ProLite XUB2793HS-B5? It has everything as this monitor + RJ45 port and USB-C with power delivery. Great as an extra monitor for a laptop.
D-Sub is VGA :)
It is the other way round, but yes :)
75hz is 25% more than most have.
and if you just want 3 for work and a bit of gaming on the side?
this is fine. if you can get them into an ergonomically viable position.
AOC monitors have this vertical OSD, it's not amazing but there's quite a few options. I have a 144hz 1440p monitor as my main, it's pretty good for how cheap it was ^^
Could you link it
@@bruhcris876
AOC CQ32G1 VA 31.5"
That’s the standard AOC panel OSD. My 1440p 144hz TN monitor from 5 years ago has the same OSD.
I have an AOC 144 Hz monitor from them and I think it's pretty decent. It's VA unfortunately, but if that's something that you're able to put up with it's pretty okay. Although I bought it on sale for 117 and currently I'm pretty sure it's like 124
I bought the BENQ mobiuz ex2510s for same price on Amazon, I would recommend BENQ over this.
EDIT: Its on offer in the UK, not sure in other places.
6:10 That's the AOC OSD, hasn't changed in over 10 years i see. My triple screen setup with the AOC i2269VWM i bought in 2014 has the same OSD :'D
I love the D-Sub marker on the monitor 😂. I only knew that connector as the Dsub15 for many years, since the Dsub connectors are common on the robotic controllers I used to work with for my job and I only used DVI or HDMI for displays. I had thought it was some sort of GPIO pin interface for monitors until someone told me about VGA.
I actually find 27" 1080P monitors to be pretty much perfect as I don't need glasses to read the text on them. They also tie in nicely with both 34" and 49" 1080P ultrawides as they're essentially 1.5 and 2 27" panels respectively so match up size wise vertically. Pricing might be a little different in the UK but AOC prices are decent over here, they're on par with Samsung for the same feature sets. I wouldn't buy that one though as unless the pricing is significantly different it wouldn't cost me much more for a similarly specced 120 Hz panel.
That OSD is standard for AOC monitors. I have it identically on my 2nd monitor which is an older AOC TN 1440p monitor. For 150 dollars you can find a better monitor, not IPS, but you can get a VA 144hz 1080p panel which I would recommend instead of a 75hz IPS.
exact same thoughts, i dont get the purpose of the video. I guess they have to fill the quota some how..
The only thing that would make this an instant buy would be 1440p
You could buy a 144hz monitor with the price they charge
27 inch ?
Wonder how it's going to catch fire. I have the aoc version, it's a nice side monitor.
I was about to recommend the Huawei Mateview SE, since I got a couple of them as secondary screens and for travel, 24", 1080p, 75Hz, (height adjustable + rotatable stand optional), very nice colors (90% P3), way more elegant look and thinner bezels and in the same price range as the AmazonBasic ones, but I forgot that Huawei is banned in the US. But maybe helpful for someone outside of the US. They also have 12V input instead of 110V/220V like the Amazon one, so I got a USB-C PD to barrel jack cable and when I travel I can just put them anywhere and use them with my Anker 737 powerbank which is really handy. On 50% brightness they pull only 8W or something and run like 10 hours.
Plz review oppo 45W liquid cooler featured at MWC.
Would personally never get something from Amazon if I can help it, but as it reads by AOC and I've had a good experience with my main AOC monitor, I'd buy the AOC branded version if I needed it.
Or some similar model that suits my needs, AOC has been a brand I was sceptical of before but warmed up to through a good experience with one of their products.
But as it's important to buy the product and not the brand, it depends on what is available when I need an upgrade.
edit: 6:09 hey that's the same OSD as my monitor, it's pretty decent but the mode presets aren't great IMO.
The speakers are horrible on mine but useful when I need something other than my headphones.
Price is similar but mine has a worse VA panel, though mine reaches 144Hz, set to 120Hz.
Got a brand new SANC M2753, kazakh/chinese 27" 1080p va 75hz 280cd monitor with freesync and speakers for 80$(!) and for that price it's amazing.
Bright, responsive, no backlight bleed or dead pixels, 100% view angles, vesa mount and 8mm bezels. And DPI is not a problem at all.
It's great to see that display tech keeps evolving and getting substantially cheaper
Dsub is short for dsubminiature, of which dsub-9 is used for serial, and dsub-15 for VGA, they (serial and VGA) use the same outer housing form factor, but dsub 9 uses 2 rows with 4+5 pin, and dsub15 uses 3 offset rows 5+5+5
I dont remember but there may be a speciffic name for VGA, like serial uses something like DE-9, and VGA might be DE-15 or DF-15
You pointed out it has a very important feature for some people (vesa mount) but didn't test it
Something simple as unthreaded holes missed by QA would be easily overlooked with this sort of methodology
I'm surprised they give you usb on it. That's usually a luxury on cheap monitors. Around this price point you can sometimes find good Monoprice monitors on sale. You gotta wait for the sales though.
I use the AOC 27" 4K monitor on an arm...because it was the cheapest 4K monitor I could find on Amazon at the time I bought it. But it's totally fine and I legitimately don't see anything that isn't glossy or OLED looking meaningfully better than this. I'm completely satisfied with what it is for the price, so I'm definitely a fan of AOC's offerings.
@2:30 I'm confused. VGA is a type of D-Sub connector. Why does this perplex you?
Considering, that I bought my Acer 27'' 170hz 1440p (technically HDR but it looks horrible but without it enabled its really great) Monitor for 250$ after tax and shipping I don't understand how this is a "good deal". That wasn't even a sale price it's just the monitors usual price. My point is, that for even 50$ more there are a lot better deals out there.
Its not at all. The 24" Acer Nitro is $130 and has freesync, HDR and is 165hz
@@fusi0nn yeah, that‘s clearly better than the Amazon basics monitor
Agreed, LTT always seem a little out of touch on real world pricing, there are plenty of monitors with these specs closer to $100
I love seeing built in stands like this. I am one who mounts their mac mini to the vesa mount and soooo many monitors have the built in stand in the way or flat out covering it. This looks like it would work
I have an AOC 144 hz TN panel. incredibly well built for a low price
I wonder if it is simply an AOC monitor manufactured in a lower-cost facility. Like AOC builds in Korea (just an example, no idea if that is correct) with the Amazon version is built in Thailand (again, just an example.) Brand "X" products assembled in third-party facilities has long been a way to get a more economical product line.
VGA is D-Sub as is any D shaped connector like serial, parallel, game ports, Atari and NES controller ports, and a ton of others.
When I first got my 75Hz monitor
The difference in FEEL between 60 and 75Hz was amazing to me!!
60Hz feels smooth but kind of motion laggy
75Hz feels smooth AND very responsive!
Now I have 165Hz and I do not notice the same leap I did when I first got the 75Hz :')
I really like how level headed you were with the review. I appreciate you being real with the quality in relation to the price point
@2:30 D-sub is the same thing as VGA. get your facts straight This is what google says "When used as a monitor interface, a D-Sub port is also known as a VGA port, an analog connection standard that's been around for some time. The connector is a DE-15 connector with 15 pins in three rows, often referred to as a "mini-D-Sub 15-pin" or "D-Sub 15-pin" connector. (Some connectors omit unused pins.)"
8:14 right, but at what profile/color settings?
Perfect for that Amazon basics lifestyle
This looks a lot like the old G2590VXQ but with evidently better colour accuracy, a 27” instead of 24.5” panel, better front controls than the rear-only nipple on the G2950, and included rear IO. All for about the same price as the G2950 sold for (in the U.K.) about 3-4 years ago. Pretty impressive.
Shame about the Amazon logo on the front though. Life is grim enough without having to look at the Amazon logo while you’re at your desk.
I think I have the same panel and mold monitor as Nitro VG270 and picked up around the same price. Anything with this are fine other than the speakers, any background noise will just make it unheard.
on 2:28
what's the difference between d-sub and VGA ? i thought they were the same
I'll one day come home from working at the Amazon factory to my Amazon basics house, where my Amazon basics wife has made me an Amazon basics meal. Our newly ordered Amazon basics kids are out for delivery. I'm so excited
I think we're sortof in a golden age of monitors -- there are amazing fancy ones, but even the low end monitors are typically _fine_ across the board
I'm so glad you said IPS is the best of led screens VA motion blurry and is gross and TN is nasty blown out colors.
I bought this monitor after watching this video. I was not even in the market for a new monitor but decided to replace my secondary. I am glad I did this monitor provides a better picture than my old ASUS monitor I bought in 2020. For its purpose it is excellent!
At 5:50 he says that it is edge lit so you wont get full array local dimming. I have seen so many tvs and monitors spec'd as edge lit with full array local dimming. Are these companies lying or is that possible?
Just done a training course at work on display equipment health and safety 😒
If anything the display is a little bit high.
Apparently the top bezel should be at eye height.
What do you think about using VSR/DSR to trick windows scaling to get more productivity real estate. Especially for a lower DPI 27” 1080p display.
Ive personally never had issues with AOC monitors. Upgraded as they were 1080p and i went to 1440p and 1440p ultrawide. But all in all they were great for the 3 years i had em.
I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen VGA marked as anything other than D-SUB on the connector, Seeing it marked as anything else would be a surprise to me, not sure why it was a surprise for Plouffe?
Anyone having any issues with black levels? I just got one as a second monitor, but it looks super washed out and still too dim? Will probably return if I can't get it the colors to somewhat match...
I think this is the AOC 27B2H? It is very similar (if not the same), and it's about 109 at the moment.
There nothing wrong with VA panels. They have good colour accuracy and very high contrast ratio.
The problem is black smearing if your eyes are sensitive enough
One question. Do you need any gaming consoles to use it or is it already windows powered?
I have an Acer and an AOC as my two monitors, bought within a few months of each other, and I definitely prefer the colors on my AOC. To the point it's my main monitor I stead of my more expensive Acer lol. It is also pretty low, but that works for me since I'm short.
I just recently got a windows key, but I haven't had a windows key for so long I kept seeing the "Activate Window" watermark on your screen and thought it was mine. Lol. It took me back there for a second.
Is this not just AOC's E24 and E27 lineup with Amazon's branding? They've sold those at Walmart for a while now for closer to $100, going up to $150+ I'd start to look for 144hz
Would have loved to see some lab results on ghosting and response time (gtg, etc)
I work for an IT company, and we actually sell AOC monitors. Had the chance to test a few and they're actually good value for money. I was surprisingly pleased. Granted, not a 4k 32:9 fancy Samsung/LG for a few thousand bucks but hey, if it's a basic screen for a-bit-of-everything kind of use on a budget you're looking for, it's really not bad!
Kinda off the subject but, My wife brought me home a older 27" 1080p monitor for me from her work to use as a discord monitor. Bad thing was no VESA mounts. It was then I discovered there is stick on VESA mount studs. 2 years later and have had zero issues.
That price really isn't that great: I've managed to snag 27" 1440p/75hz HDR FreeSync monitors for just under $200 twice (which have surprisingly lasted over two years without issue), and 1080p monitors have dipped to or even below $100 at times. But of course, all of those were on sale, which means this can probably get a decent sale price too.
Is this just a rebranded device and if so, what's the corresponding AOC model number?
Having only recently upgraded from a 1920×1200 TN 60hz monitor to a 1080p IPS 75hz with VRR, I feel that reviews don't always account for the users perceived experience.
LTTs recent video on Alienwares new high refresh rate display drives home the idea of diminishing returns on upgrades. Once Labs let's us see comparisons across multiple generations of products, rather than what's in the current crop, it'll be a lot easier to know if the juice is worth the squeeze.
Seems like it would be a good budget office monitor. Too bad it will most likely never come to Canada
How is your experience with aoc?
Do you like the screens?
Was the price good?
Does it compare to other brand?
Just curious about experience by others
As i didnt know aoc bought 1 anyway and Still happy with it
D-Sub is the correct term for the connector. VGA is a resolution format.
6:09 it's a standard OSD on (probably) all AOC monitors
6:10 That´s the typical AOC OSD. A bit counterintuitive at first, pretty easy once you spend 10 minutes.