Not just that, outright telling the competition they better have something in the pipeline that can match this product or they're outright "screwed"....
Would love to see Dan do a "beginners guide" on shopping for 3D printers. It's stupid to say, but he's so honest about everything that I seriously trust his recommendations and opinion
From what I can tell right now for off-the-shelf printers, the best you can get is either the Kingroon KP3S (inexpensive ~$170), the Bambu P1P (mid-range $700), or the Bambu X1 (intro high cost $1200 - $1500) depending on your price point. Maybe one of the Sovols or one of the upgraded Ender 3 models between the Kingroon and P1P?
I mean he basically already did one at the end of the video. "If you want a 3d printer buy this one, unless its too expensive then buy another one" lmao
10000% I agree, and I strongly feel like they should prioritize videos with him because of the whole distrust situation. He alone can probably easily restore that, he list BLEEDS honesty and genuine transparency, his voice, pacing, tone, everything. I would be shocked if this was 90% scripted because of how naturally he sounds
X1-Carbon was a game changer for R&D engineering work. I can make carbon fiber nylon prototypes first try with amazing accuracy. I’ve been using it for a bit now and it’s amazing for my teams speed in prototyping new designs has went from a week per design to a day. I have used a prusa and ender 3v2 before the bambu.
@@vadeka the prusa is great don’t get me wrong but bambu makes it somewhat hard to mess up a print along with great amenities like the mobile app. More in depth; Being able to start a print and just leave then check your phones live feed of the print is very nice. (X1-carbon) It really comes down convenience/ease of use > open ended and upgradable. I think the software and the creature comforts of the bambu outweigh the upgradability of the prusa. Especially since you really don’t need to upgrade anything if you get the X1 carbon. If and big IF bambu stays around and keeps parts cheap. That is the biggest gamble. For the price you can’t go wrong with either. Of course if you get the P1P bambu then I think it is undeniably the best printer under 1K. Since it is just a stripped X1.
I picked up a P1P a few weeks ago, it really is incredible. The speed at which it can print and still have good quality prints straight out of the box is shocking. I picked up the AMS, so I’ll be curious to see how well that works when it gets in.
it's great for being able to queue up 4 different spools for one at a time use but yeah waste will eat at you. look up vids on how to optimize before you start or you'll get really frustrated by it quick. I suggest start at 185 and work your way back up using test prints.. you'll understand what that means when you get the ams
Dan is great and how he explains is both fun and I feel like I'm learning something without being preached to. Plus he is a Nerd's Nerd and we need more of him.
I can not stress this enough. I appreciate Dan's honest and straight to the point presentation style. I would watch him unbox and demo a toaster. Well done team!
Went from Ender 3 to this. I've had it less then a month and already been able to print double then what I was ever able to print with the Ender 3. It's making me change my mind about proprietary systems. If it's going to give this much value and just work, then I'm willing to accept being inside their proprietary system.
Well, their parts are as cheap or cheaper than quality open sourced parts. Which completely changes the proprietary paradigm compared to something like Formlabs where you're talking a 3x cost.
@@DOGbackwardz Proprietary tech and walled gardens work as long as there is strong competition. The moment a company get a dominant enough position that competition is no longer relevant it breaks down. We've seen this happen over and over again in several markets. But at the same time the ease and safety of never venturing away from the flock is seductive... Most people doesn't really care either way. All they care about is that things work when they need them to. And when something doesn't work they either replace it right off or take it to the "experts" who replaces it right off making you pay for a new whatever as replacing is easier than reparing...
Idk, this feels like they saw how normal printer companies do it and imitated their business model, which will be disastrous in the long run if true. With the RFID chip in the spools and the software bound to an account and so on
@@domninin Difference being that here you can choose to use any filament, but you will have to dial in the properties manually. Well at least you can do that for now. Who knows what they'll do tomorrow?
I bought one of these based on this video and I have to say I can't complain.. its absurdly fast, and completely painless to use aside from some minor bluetooth pairing issues. coming from an ender 3 that I will now never use again, no fiddling with bed leveling or setup, no bed adhesion issues.. works great with both bamboo and esun pla. His punch line is right, if you are in the market for a printer, buy this one.
Through 8 spools of filament and 0 failed prints so far... one thing to account for is you use a LOT of filament with printers that are this fast, buy extra lol
I have been 3d printing for years had a lot of printers before I got the X1 Carbon and it really is a game changer. I like tinkering and modding my printers but if you you want something that gives you little issues and is fast and pretty much reliable bambu lab printers are the way to go. It like the difference of trying to cook food over a camp fire or having a microwave, think of this more as an appliance rather than a hobbyist toy.
Modding is fun until you find yourself doing it more than just printing. I prefer to have a reliable printer that finishes the job rather than constantly fixing it. It's a fabrication machine, I don't like working on the machine that works for me.
Excellent highlights! 👏😎 I'm also a big fan of both, P1P and especially the X1C with multiple AMS units. Having 16 active filaments is a dream come true for iterating designs. 😌
@@jagerbombasstic you technically shouldn't use the AMS with CF filament. it says so on their website. it wears out the funnel thing where the filaments goes into the AMS. you can print a PTFE adapter for it though but out of the box it aint recommended. wore it out abit with a PLA that had alot of rough glitter let alone CF
They might do a main video on it at some point. In a recent labs tour they spend a short moment talking about it with Dan. They have 3 x1 Carbon's and one of them is hooked up to 4x of the AMS feeds.
@@-B.H. Yeah they might. I don't think they have done a X1c review yet so that review will include the AMS is there nobody more qualified to do 3d printer reviews. I like the guy but it's obvious that he isn't on a high technological level involving printers
The AMS is known to be extremely faulty, and they would have had to touch on that and bring light to just how unreliable these machines are in order to talk about it at all.
4:42 The nozzle knows where it is because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (which ever is greater) it obtains a difference or deviation.
let me touch every moment where the machine needs to setup. really giving the best shot . i hated that. i can understand he want to show those capabilities, but the fact he couldn't stay still withouth touching is the worst.
Highly recommend. I’ve been doing this for several years now and I can confidently say the P1P is the first printer I’ve ever bought that felt like an appliance rather than a project. The only thing that came close was the Anycubic Kobra Max, but that sucker is so big it takes up its own postal code.
@@LilApe how many people have received a wrapped bed, cause I think you talking a**. we backed the project from the very start for the X1C + AMS and have had it since and many use it has there daily driver. and there is no other consumer printer that comes close at the price.
Love videos hosted by Dan, his pace is quick but in a very understandable way, his speech keeps me engaged unlike anyone. Also his level of insight and ability to communicate what level of insight he has is incredible. Love the little details and user experience details he is able to convey. Love his audio videos because of this but also loving seeing him talk about other topics, seeing how he experiences different topics has been really interesting and I hope we get to see him talk about whatever topics interest him! Think he would give justice and bring interest to whatever.
I love mine, certainly a step above a prusa in terms of how much of a workhorse it is, and it's heads and shoulders above any sort of hobbyist printer. I think that it's an excellent beginner printer if you have the money to invest in the ecosystem because you learn basic maintenance without any of the headaches that come with cheap machines while getting incredible quality and speed. All the benefits of the X1C platform at a much lower price makes me almost regret my Prusa Mini purchase :P
@@Kevinjimtheone It is super nice, but do bear in mind that everything is proprietary on the Bambulabs machines. Which means, you always have to buy via them, fixing the machine yourself with off the shelf parts, I think, is a great thing in the long run for printers like a Prusa (they do need to release something similar though).
If you want quality and speed of a Bambu with out proprietary garbage. Build a voron. That being said quality is dependent on your patience and effort to build it correctly
@@killroy713 a voron is a tinkerer's machine, totally different user bases. It's like how not every engineer builds their own pc and buys a pre-built workstation. A voron kit is also quite expensive and requires a machine already capable of printing dimensionally accurately with ABS or ASA if you don't use the print it forward services. It's certainly the right choice for some, but an X1C or P1P is way more friendly and more approachable for the vast majority of people interested in 3DP.
First time I seen a video with this guy. He's good. I like how he gets on with it, very professional..No childish jokes and trying too hard to be funny, unlike some of the others on here, which is usually highly grating and makes me switch off.. Good job.
wow, I don't think I've ever seen Dan give a product such a glowing recommendation. I don't want or need a 3D printer, but Dan's endorsement of them is great because I have 1 or 2 friends who are in the market and I can point them specifically to this video. Great job Dan! Keep it up!
I just got the X1C and as a manufacturer, entrepreneur and patent filer type it's an absolute game changer. First time it took me 30mins to print something I designed, including learning how to export to the software and use it. I didn't leave my room and watched from my office via internal webcam. Truly in Star Trek age. 1000x easier than industrial 3 or t axis CnC machines which really need babysitting and years of experience.
Excellent video. Great job, Dan. I have been seeing more of him. I am happy he is in front of the camera more. Between Jake, Andy, and Dan, you have the A-team of employees. Great video again.
Both Dan and the editor did an excellent job on this video. The information is clear, flows well, and is a good density. I don't need a new 3D printer but I still enjoyed this.
Good job! Part of being honest and transparent with reviews / sponsors isn't just to Ding them when they screw up, but praise when its actually deserved and not marketing BS.
I have a X1C and I am at total awe of it.. amazing. I am going to get a P1P for my kids. I sold my BCN3D Sigmax that I paid at the time for 4500 euros.. I ended up selling it for 900 thankfully at a huge loss since no one what to be this old slow low tech printers. I can imagine how BCN3D can even compete going forward selling 6K printers .. game over. If you look on the classifieds there are many of them. This is truly a game changer. Buying filaments and accessories now is difficult and you need to move fast when they get it in Europe. I don't mind I stock up each time I can even if don't need it at the time. The technical materials print awesome!!!
Would love to go CoreXY after suffering with a bedslinger (Ender 3v2) for a while now, but will gladly wait for other Voron-like machines to pop up. Bambu's offerings are definitely intriguing, however, and I'm looking forward to FDM printers stop being Ender/Prusa clones :)
For the price, Bambu is where it’s at. There just isn’t anything on the market that can do what this does at this price. Also, third party parts are already coming out for this and the X1C. That means the concerns about the ‘closed ecosystem’ are negligible.
@@realgoose my main concern about bambu is the printer firmware. No way to go back on an update and no way to manually update with like an sd card. There have been bugs in the firmware and as it stands, you are at the mercy of them responding and fixing the issue, which could be weeks, if you get a firmware bug like I and many got. Instead of waiting weeks for an update and breaking my head trying to figure out what was wrong, I could have just rolled back the firmware if it was an option and have my printer be functional right away. Then there's the question, why would a firmware bug only break some machines and not all. It's concerning and while I love my 3 x1c, I can't rely on them 100% based on my experience with them and what I've also seen other people go through. I'll be diversifying a bit with vorons probably
The i3/bedslinger design is still really good for smaller printers. You shouldn't write off a type of printers because the cheap Chinese one you got wasn't good.
I picked one of these up a couple weeks back and i am very happy with it. My only advice is to be careful with firmware updates on the printer. When they first launch they break features. the 1.3 firmware broke wifi printing. Hope they fix it soon. That said. even with that issue. Printing from SD card works great. Its FAST and very high quality. Overall i really love this thing
Absolutely love Dan! Hate it when I actually click a link to buy something from a video and the first thing is see is "early bird package sold out"... Thats cool, I'll just not spend $700.
I ordered an X1C based on this review (P1P was sold out in EU by the time I ordered). Holy crap, it's a fast printer! My entire desk shakes when it's printing, but the prints come out fine. For the people that just got one and did not do all of their homework: The printer includes a blade for the scraper model that is in the printer itself.
This is the video that finally got me interested in 3d printers. Dan is amazing especially since I think he actually likes the product. I agree with other comments, would love to see some longer videos on getting into the 3D printing scene. I really really want one of these, but this is a huge new area to learn. Needs more Dan.
Fantastic video. Would love to know if you’re also running into the extreme slow Wi-Fi transfer speeds on your p1p compared to your x1 printers. Mine is painfully slow with the transfers vs my x1
I could not set up the WiFi through their app. I suspect my phone has an incompatible blue tooth protocol (V4.1, A2DP vs their BLE 5.0), but I have yet to hear from their technical support to help me out. So far they have suggested to work through LAN. Compared to how well the printer worked out of the box, I was amazed how bad the set up for network connectivity was.
those of you who have not 3d printed before have no idea how many lightyears ahead of other printers the bamboo lineup is. sure, you could build a voron 2.4 with many mods to get the same sort of corexy printer using klipper which has these vibration compensations etc etc. but what you don't realize is that those are all DIY models you build yourself from scratch. These bamboo printers come out of the box, run all the calibrations themselves (which takes another 10-100 hours), then starts printing. its incredible. so incredible that I don't own one yet for my 3d printing business because it's almost too good to be true. need more time to air out and fix unknown issues. Once that has been done, it will be mine
@@abowden5079 lmao stay salty. Not all of us want to fiddle around tweaking an inferior design because muh open sauce. We need a tool for a job. Not a second hobby to learn. This is bringing 3d printing to the masses, we have a 3 and 5 axis and other cnc machines over a million dollars worth before you say I'm some noob. This is the first company making affordable tools like it, not toys.
I got my first (and I guess only as of now) 3d printer about 3 years ago, an ender 3 v2. It’s caused me a lot of trouble and I’ve had to tinker with its constantly, but I love it anyway. I’ve upgraded it like crazy, when it prints it prints great. In the last year or so, I didn’t touch it, it had a problem that I had issues solving. So I paid no attention to the 3d printing world. I was thinking to myself randomly that the 3d printer market is due for a massive overhaul/revolution, so I looked up some new printers to see what had changed… I think this p1p could be the start of that revolution. It’s like an appliance. It isn’t meant to be tinkered with or tuned, it’s like you’re refrigerator in that regard. I think we all love being relatively early in the game of consumer 3d printing and the fact that we have to constantly tune our machines solidifies that we are still early, but I think it’s time now that some of us move onto something that maybe doesn’t need constant work, something that just… prints. The p1p isn’t all the way there yet imo. But I think what you said at the end of the video is the key here, the other companies WILL come out with their answers. I wouldn’t be surprised if the p1p ends up kinda flopping in the long term if the other companies play their cards right, but I think it’s started something big
Dan's knowledge on 3d printing has improved a lot! Happy to see more 3D printing related videos. The price/speed+quality ratio for this printer is great and I do agree that it is a very good choice for a first 3d printer. The cheaper would be the Sovol SV06 currently. The only thing I feel was missing in this video was being critical and more detailed in commenting on the "problematic" connectivity, app and cloud stuff. The issues were mentioned in the video, but then the workarounds for the "problematic" choices of Bambu were not mentioned. It was like: "Yeah Bambu has made some very problematic choices, but you can get around them with some effort, but still we really think you should buy this printer" which is not a very honest/moral/clear take. I understand it is a sponsored video, but it would be better if you made up your mind in a clear way, to either just make an AD video and not critical at all or be critical and spend time on the negatives as well. Now you mentioned the negatives, without being actually critical and explaining to the viewers what you don't like about the P1P.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought he did mention workarounds, like with the app connection didn't he say that you could skip that step, and with the cloud connectivity he said you could connect to it via LAN negating that "problem"
@@olimations Yes, exactly he mentioned the issues, but did not go into explaining why they are a problem and how easy or difficult it is to overcome the issues. I am not sure that viewers understood that it is a very cloud oriented, proprietary ecosystem with concerns about connectivity and data privacy by default. This is very much the anti-consumer mentality/business model of not having full control of a device that you own and paid for. Example the LAN-only mode is supported for the P1P only with the latest firmware update that was released 3 days ago, before that P1P owners were not able to overide the cloud (at least in an easy way). I think it is not a coincidence that the video was released so close to the firmware update, while also the P1P has been shipping for over two months now. Dan used the term "problematic", so since he did mention some of the negatives, I don't understand why there was not enough information/explaination regarding (by Dan's own words) the "problematic" decisions/business practices of Bambu.
I have an x1c and there are a few teething problems to be sure, the one plaguing me right now is the tool head cover falling off I believe because the magnets aren't strong enough to endure some of the really fast direction changes. Another bad one is usually the first print after an AMS filament change fails on the first layer (the nozzle seems too low which drags and causes a terrible mess) even when going from PETG to PETG of a different color... And to that the only way to adjust Z offset is in the start G-code, that could and should easily be a real time adjustment on the printer. I know it's also a slicer profile thing because the bambu filament profiles always print better than the generic ones. The last of my serious issues is with the magnets keeping the print sheet attached to the bed, when printing generic nylon (nylon requires painters tape with all/any of the sheets) the tool head can actually MOVE the sheet and knock into the glass/shift the Y axis so it's either 0% adhesion or far too much... Having said all that my 3d printer experience has helped me work around all those issues and I'm confident they can be fixed with relative ease, there are no fundamental faults and I can say I'm happy with my purchase though I wish I had bought it at the kickstarter price then I'd be elated with it. Oh and the app, I have no desire to have some Chinese server as the middle man for everything I do with my printer when I'm in the same room and I've already set up a wireguard vpn for anything else. The LAN only mode has obviously been intentionally crippled as you cannot use the included USB camera or LAN file transfer, I'm not the only person angry about this and I've read that an improved LAN mode is in the works for me the sooner the better.
I want to like this but I’m going to hold out for the Prusa XL, a more open source printer without requiring accounts or cloud control. I’ll gladly pay more to support an open model and to support a company that invests into the community.
Yeah, I have one and it’s kind of creepy. Bambu Lab servers know everything about what your printer is doing at all times. And the print quality is way below average IMO
Fortunate enough to have invested in an X1C with AMS. Fantastic 3D Printer. It has its growing pains for sure. But if their first printer is any indication of what’s to come then we are in for some cool models in the future. 🎉
I’ve always wondered, can you do multiple colors for 3D prints with separate color materials? I’m more thinking along the lines of that gyroscope being 3 separate colors for each ring.
Yes, you can. Thats what the material switch systems like the bamboo ams, prusa mmu and carrot feeder do. There are also idex printers and dual nozzle printers which can utilize 2 materials.
Yes, there are dual color filaments. There are also dual extruder printers [basically two print heads/nozzles, each with its own filament]. Then there are printers that automatically change filaments for you on the fly [via either an extruder change or loading/unloading filament for you]. Quite a few options. You can even just manually load/unload colors as you go, though, that only works for simple color changes - like “I want these last 10 layers of the print to be red”.
The "vibration compensation" is actually called resonance compensation. Because the printer accelerates and moves so quickly, any resonance in the system at specific frequencies can create visible "waves" on the surface of the print. Resonance compensation adjusts the speed and acceleration of the printer on the fly to avoid those resonances and keep your external perimeters looking nice the smooth. :)
@@Fjprints That's... not what proprietary means, or even what "open source" means. Physical designs aren't open or closed source because you can just digitize the physical thing and reproduce it. A "proprietary" nozzle would have to include features that make it specifically difficult to reproduce. Having a different design isn't proprietary - it's custom. The standard design people use right now, the E3D v6 nozzle, was only standardized because they were successful. Early on, there were several different incompatible designs.
As a student, that needs to save money and avoid "unnecessary" purchases, just ordered one! Thanks you for making my wallet lighter Dan! (Have always wanted one though, and will be good to get experience as an automation-engineer with parts/designing)
Why on Earth does sending the files from your computer sitting on your desk to your printer also sitting on your desk have to involve a cloud service? That's just stupid.
The wlan connectivity on this thing is pants. I could not set it up because my smartphone uses an older Blue Tooth protocol. Or perhaps some other reason. Their customer support was unable to help.
I wish my X1 Carbon was this nice.. It was a lemon unfortunately. I have hope for them yet, but the QA and QC needs to get handled. I am hoping the replacement is better, we shall see. But I was running sub 40% success on mine. Nice look at the P1P though! I enjoyed it!
@@LilApe I doubt that.. I dont think LTT as a company would support that. As a content creator, any comment with a link is auto flagged for me because people normally post crap in them and nothing useful lol, so maybe it was a YT thing like we have.
Speed is everything when printing quick models that don't need tons of accuracy. I started with an ender 3 v2 max and quickly outgrew it and got tired of how slow it was. I eventually went to a direct drive extruder and converted to klipper(marlin sucks compared to klipper) and am now printing at roughly 140mm/s with max acceleration settings at 4000mm/s.
19:28 Tell me bambu lab paid you without telling me bambu lab paid you... You used the printer for one whole piece and are now saying "buy only this printer and no other"....without mentioning the glaring issues with them and the company. -Awful build quality, from warped beds, clogged nozzles, broken AMS units, broken heatbed cables, broken MB fans, broken electronics from PSU's to extruder parts. -Terrible customer service that takes days to respond to support tickets, then takes weeks to ship parts after a bunch of back and forth nonsense. -Violating open source licenses -No crash detection, resulting in bent nozzles and damaged build plates. -A cloud system that goes down often, refusing to let people print until back online. - NON SERVICEABLE, bambu lab wants you to send the printer back for repair when certain parts fail. Like the CF rods and bronze bushings. -Severe lack of transparency, they blatantly rip off open source innovations, while slapping a proprietary label on it, then contributing less than the minimum to the open source projects. Guess who does NONE of the above? The "competitor", which he meant to say is prusa.
I've never owned a 3d printer before. I actually ordered an MK3 the day before the MK4 was announced. In the meantime, a friend of mine showed me his Bambu X1. He also owns a Prusa and a few others but ended up talking me into the Bambu for very much the reasons you talk about. He said it worked out of the box with minimal configuration and recommended it for a beginner. Mine comes Friday :) i'm excited to use it.
The amount of times you shook the table and laid hands on the printer while talking made me extremely anxious. This is the first video of yours I've seen. You're the friend that touches too much.
Fun fact, bambu is said to be formed from previous DJI engineers, that's where they got the design language and user-friendly interface. Also they did a really good design job with the mechanical parts.
The loudest part is the startup sequence where it does all of its self calibrations and such and ramps up. Once it's printing it's not all that loud outside of when it's making some quick jerking motions within a small area.
Just bought one of these after several months of wanting one and slowly saving up. Super excited to get this! Upgrading from an Ender 3... Going to be a huge jump!!
oh one tip though, the default heatbed temperature is only 35 degrees for Bambu Studio, if you use their software I would strongly recommend increasing the heatbed temperature to 60 or even 70 degrees for PLA, took me a while to figure out that's the reason my prints kept getting unstuck and going spaghetti
I'd love to have one. I learned a lot from using an Ender and it is really fun to tinker but it can sometimes be a hassle (bed leveling especially) when I just want to print something.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but Linus has made such an amazing team, all people that host a video are so passionate for tech and when they branch out to specific categories I enjoy it so much and I value each of there opinion. It’s such an amazing team.
Make the LTT deskpad as it is but add a UV layer on the circuit traces so the electric traces are lit if u have an ultraviolet light. ( and maby on the nothern lights, colored uv )
I'm not going to lie, I came into this video not caring about the product and might leave without caring, but what got me here was seeing Dan in the thumbnail.
Sounds like it's finally a time to get a 3D printer - a time where you longer have to fight with the device and teoubleshoot it but instead devote 100% of the time to creative process. Took a while but we got there in the end 😊
I'm still manually leveling on an Artillery Sidewinder X1, for anyone new wanting to get into 3D printing, buy into auto leveling, without question, also E3D's Revo hotend system is another QoL upgrade.
First time I’ve seen your site. Really good stuff - well done on all levels, lighting, sound, editing, and not to mention your excellent content & delivery…bravo.
Thanks Bambu for sponsoring ShortCircuit. I've been eyeing your printers since seeing the X1's in LTT videos, but it's always been a bit out of price range. Seeing that the P1P is a more budget-allowable model, and hearing this praise plus praise online, I've purchased one. For what it's worth, if the QR codes for the filaments are made open, that would've made a HUGE impact towards the buying decision and there wouldn't have been a "decision," just in my opinion. Also sadly the P1P camera isn't currently in-stock, but whenever it does show up, I'll look forward to getting one.
This was a great video. I'd love to see a similar pace and tone with other prosumer products. It kinda reminded me of some of Wendel's reviews from Level1Techs. It is engaging without being over-the-top.
I just got a 3d printer for my birthday yesterday and it has been incredible. I've been watching 3d printing content for years now, and now every 3d printing video I watch is so much more interesting and incredible now. Maybe it's just Dan though.
I have been watching these printers and really like them. I went from a XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 to a Creality Ender-3 and my next will most likely be a Bambu.
It's funny. My partner and I want a new 3D printer because we were fed-up with our old Ender 5 for being so crap. We'd been looking at a Prusa but then I saw the Lab Update the other day and Dan had the Bambu printers set up. I'd never heard of them so I looked them up and found the P1P. I told my partner and it went to the top of the list of choices for our next printer. A few days later and Dan gives us this stellar review. Thanks very much!
Having a P1P now for a month there are some downsides: - its really loud. - It needs good filament. Filament that worked for my old Ender 3 S1 is not working at high speed on the P1P, while other (e.g. marble PLA) works like a charm. Besides that: its a great printer (incl. support!) and I am not missing my S1 at all.
Hobby 3d printer-er here: I got a super cheap 3D printer about a year ago, only 150€ new (Anycubic Mega SE). Now it can produce very decent prints, but with features, when compared to Prusa printers, it sucks. Compared to the Bambu printers, it really sucks. But as a project to tinker on itself, it is really fun. As a hobbyist, I don't need results asap, and I love tinkering with machines; for example, I'm currently designing my own hotend shroud to improve the part cooling and reduce noise. While the technologic advancement from BambuLab printers is fascinating, the printers themselves are kinda boring to me. Budget printers are fun to improve, and there will always be something to tinker on.
I own the P1P for 2 months now and absolutely love the printer and what its capable of. What I don't like so much is Bambu Labs attitude. Their customer support is rather special from my point of view. Just recently I asked to return a delivery, for a full refund just as it arrived (yes we can do this in the EU, it's the law*) and they asked me for a photo of the unopened package to be eligible for the return. Excuse me what? One other thing is, that when the P1P just came out, there were no tutorials for all the repairs and you often had to follow those for the X1C (which is a lot like the P1P but a different printer nevertheless). The inevitable happened and I accidentially ripped a tiny ribbon cable, during unclogging the extruder, because it wasn't mentioned in the online repair manual. I thought customer support might just send me a new one for free, because we kinda share the blame here, but boy was I wrong. Not only didn they asked me to buy a replacement from them, I was supposed to pay 45€ for an entire new extruder assembly because they don't sell the ribbon cable separately. Just two points on that: 1. If the didn't use ribbon cables, but normal wires, I would have even been able to fix it myself (or it wouldn't have broken in the first place). So much for proprietary parts and its downsides 2. Why would I want a free replacement for something I broke? Because that is awesome customer service and makes your customers come back ever and ever again! I am now in a state of mind where I said to myself, as soon as prusa releases a similar product, I will jump ships, because their customer support was excellent so far in my experience. Another example for great customer support and why it's so important: Just recently my LTT water bottles 1st gen lid snapped (the rubber part). I wrote to support and they sent me a 2nd gen replacement lid FOR FREE. This is customer service and this is why I have also bought the LTT Screwdriver and I am currently looking into getting the backpack, which is not cheap either. But at least I am certain that when something goes wrong with it, I can count on the great customer support, which for me personally is well worth the money. tl;dr: Bambu Lab products --> great Bambu Lab philosophy and support --> a LOT of headroom *europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/shopping-consumer-rights/index_en.htm
Really your blaming bambu for not sending you a free replacement cause your clumsy and broke a ribbon cable and then compare it to a ltt water bottle that actually had a quilty issue. Don't get me wrong they should have the cable separate but with how cheap there selling the complete components it seems pretty fair to me. compared to the other option of allowing customers like you to bring up the price of all the components cause there sending them out for free and have to make up that expense elsewhere by passing it on to everyone.
@@user-tj7xr6xd9z First of all: your opinion is a valid opinion. But it’s just that. Your opinion. Let others have theirs. Now to the assumptions you made: No I am not clumsy. Don‘t judge or generalise me because of one TH-cam comment you read. I am not discussing matters further with you on that personal level. Have a nice day.
with how brutally honest Dan is w/ audio gear it's pretty incredible to hear him have such high praises for something
Yeah but as someone who has both the Ankermake is still better, it's a shame ltt is biased against Anker now.
@@SirDragonClaw you mean the Chinese company known for screwing over customers and having a massive security scandal with their cameras?
Not just that, outright telling the competition they better have something in the pipeline that can match this product or they're outright "screwed"....
I love Dan and I really feel like I honestly believe that's his honest opinion and it wouldn't change even if it wasn't sponsors
You guys do realize this video is sponsored by the manufacturer, right? This isn't a review.
Would love to see Dan do a "beginners guide" on shopping for 3D printers. It's stupid to say, but he's so honest about everything that I seriously trust his recommendations and opinion
From what I can tell right now for off-the-shelf printers, the best you can get is either the Kingroon KP3S (inexpensive ~$170), the Bambu P1P (mid-range $700), or the Bambu X1 (intro high cost $1200 - $1500) depending on your price point. Maybe one of the Sovols or one of the upgraded Ender 3 models between the Kingroon and P1P?
Same here. I’m really interested in getting one, but price is a big concern (for the wife at least).
I mean he basically already did one at the end of the video. "If you want a 3d printer buy this one, unless its too expensive then buy another one" lmao
+1. Even a beginners guide on 3D printing as a whole! Might aswell let him do every Short Circuit video!
N00B Guide
I love Dan's videos. I really like the pace, not over enthusiastic, no teleshop sales man vibe and seems honest. Good job!
Yep. These are videos I'm more prone to actually pay attention to.
Pacing is really important. Some youtubers are speaking so fast that I find it exhausting, even impossible to watch.
Yeah he's my energy level. Linus is just a moving chaos.
@@TechnologistAtWork I can deal with him, mostly :) TBH, my typical energy level is closer to "my mechanics"
10000% I agree, and I strongly feel like they should prioritize videos with him because of the whole distrust situation. He alone can probably easily restore that, he list BLEEDS honesty and genuine transparency, his voice, pacing, tone, everything. I would be shocked if this was 90% scripted because of how naturally he sounds
More Dan, so much fun to watch. very relaxed and great presenter!
So true. Also when he’s in a secondary role for a video and just does what he wants.
Dan is my spiritual animal
@@seandowning115 And as the producer of WAN, his dry commentary and humor **chef's kiss** magnifico
Yes!
agreed
X1-Carbon was a game changer for R&D engineering work. I can make carbon fiber nylon prototypes first try with amazing accuracy. I’ve been using it for a bit now and it’s amazing for my teams speed in prototyping new designs has went from a week per design to a day. I have used a prusa and ender 3v2 before the bambu.
opinion on the prusa versus the bambu?
Same here X1C and we have 3 and 5 axis and dual turret 7? axis auto load unload lathes lol. This thing is just next level.
@@vadeka the prusa is great don’t get me wrong but bambu makes it somewhat hard to mess up a print along with great amenities like the mobile app.
More in depth;
Being able to start a print and just leave then check your phones live feed of the print is very nice. (X1-carbon)
It really comes down convenience/ease of use > open ended and upgradable. I think the software and the creature comforts of the bambu outweigh the upgradability of the prusa. Especially since you really don’t need to upgrade anything if you get the X1 carbon. If and big IF bambu stays around and keeps parts cheap. That is the biggest gamble. For the price you can’t go wrong with either. Of course if you get the P1P bambu then I think it is undeniably the best printer under 1K. Since it is just a stripped X1.
Except govt contractors schools and military contractors can’t use them. So they are niche at best.
@@jagerbombasstic octoprint / mainsail / klipper.
I picked up a P1P a few weeks ago, it really is incredible. The speed at which it can print and still have good quality prints straight out of the box is shocking. I picked up the AMS, so I’ll be curious to see how well that works when it gets in.
the waste is excessive imo
@@scootersfrog I’ve heard that, but I’ve never had a printer able to do multiple materials/colors so I’m still excited haha
@@HifiJelly yea even knowing this i was still surprised by just how much
it's great for being able to queue up 4 different spools for one at a time use but yeah waste will eat at you. look up vids on how to optimize before you start or you'll get really frustrated by it quick. I suggest start at 185 and work your way back up using test prints.. you'll understand what that means when you get the ams
Is this core xy?
5:00 for those interested the "vibratiness" measurement is called Input Shaper
Dan is great and how he explains is both fun and I feel like I'm learning something without being preached to. Plus he is a Nerd's Nerd and we need more of him.
I think that's Dan's strength. Hes able to explain things technically without alienating those that aren't technical. It's a true gift. More Dan!
I can not stress this enough. I appreciate Dan's honest and straight to the point presentation style. I would watch him unbox and demo a toaster. Well done team!
I watched Sarah unbox and demo a toaster
Went from Ender 3 to this. I've had it less then a month and already been able to print double then what I was ever able to print with the Ender 3. It's making me change my mind about proprietary systems. If it's going to give this much value and just work, then I'm willing to accept being inside their proprietary system.
Well, their parts are as cheap or cheaper than quality open sourced parts. Which completely changes the proprietary paradigm compared to something like Formlabs where you're talking a 3x cost.
@@DOGbackwardz Proprietary tech and walled gardens work as long as there is strong competition. The moment a company get a dominant enough position that competition is no longer relevant it breaks down. We've seen this happen over and over again in several markets. But at the same time the ease and safety of never venturing away from the flock is seductive...
Most people doesn't really care either way. All they care about is that things work when they need them to. And when something doesn't work they either replace it right off or take it to the "experts" who replaces it right off making you pay for a new whatever as replacing is easier than reparing...
You need to learn about Vorons, RatRigs, and VZBots. Just to start.
Idk, this feels like they saw how normal printer companies do it and imitated their business model, which will be disastrous in the long run if true. With the RFID chip in the spools and the software bound to an account and so on
@@domninin Difference being that here you can choose to use any filament, but you will have to dial in the properties manually.
Well at least you can do that for now. Who knows what they'll do tomorrow?
Dan is so chill I hope we see much more of him he's somebody who I think everyone likes
it's not called chill, it's called boring monotone dullness.
@@Auslad hahaha sounds like you’re too accustomed to the fake, overly dramatic and overly enthusiastic, but still enjoyable style of some other hosts.
I hate Dan...
.... I say that as a massive liar.
I bought one of these based on this video and I have to say I can't complain.. its absurdly fast, and completely painless to use aside from some minor bluetooth pairing issues.
coming from an ender 3 that I will now never use again, no fiddling with bed leveling or setup, no bed adhesion issues.. works great with both bamboo and esun pla.
His punch line is right, if you are in the market for a printer, buy this one.
Through 8 spools of filament and 0 failed prints so far... one thing to account for is you use a LOT of filament with printers that are this fast, buy extra lol
I have been 3d printing for years had a lot of printers before I got the X1 Carbon and it really is a game changer. I like tinkering and modding my printers but if you you want something that gives you little issues and is fast and pretty much reliable bambu lab printers are the way to go. It like the difference of trying to cook food over a camp fire or having a microwave, think of this more as an appliance rather than a hobbyist toy.
Modding is fun until you find yourself doing it more than just printing. I prefer to have a reliable printer that finishes the job rather than constantly fixing it. It's a fabrication machine, I don't like working on the machine that works for me.
What do you think about Prusa?
@@WatShmatfrom what I've heard, they're pretty reliable but this thing is dramatically cheaper for similar levels of reliability and quality
Excellent highlights! 👏😎
I'm also a big fan of both, P1P and especially the X1C with multiple AMS units.
Having 16 active filaments is a dream come true for iterating designs. 😌
Not a review if it is sponsored right?
@@ZebraandDonkey you’re right, my bad :)
A shame that you guys didn't really talk about the Bambu Lab AMS system. Being able to print in multiple colours/materials is a huge win in my book.
Being able to use support material with carbon fiber filaments so you don’t waste the $$ filament is worth the cost alone.
@@jagerbombasstic you technically shouldn't use the AMS with CF filament. it says so on their website. it wears out the funnel thing where the filaments goes into the AMS. you can print a PTFE adapter for it though but out of the box it aint recommended. wore it out abit with a PLA that had alot of rough glitter let alone CF
They might do a main video on it at some point. In a recent labs tour they spend a short moment talking about it with Dan. They have 3 x1 Carbon's and one of them is hooked up to 4x of the AMS feeds.
@@-B.H. Yeah they might. I don't think they have done a X1c review yet so that review will include the AMS is there nobody more qualified to do 3d printer reviews. I like the guy but it's obvious that he isn't on a high technological level involving printers
The AMS is known to be extremely faulty, and they would have had to touch on that and bring light to just how unreliable these machines are in order to talk about it at all.
4:42 The nozzle knows where it is because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (which ever is greater) it obtains a difference or deviation.
As someone who's written hardware self-calibration before, every time Dan touched the chassis while it was self-leveling I wanted to scream 😅
Not everyone has a functioning brain unfortunately
let me touch every moment where the machine needs to setup. really giving the best shot . i hated that. i can understand he want to show those capabilities, but the fact he couldn't stay still withouth touching is the worst.
Well... I wanted a 3d printer, and it seems this is the one I'll buy.
XD same
Highly recommend. I’ve been doing this for several years now and I can confidently say the P1P is the first printer I’ve ever bought that felt like an appliance rather than a project. The only thing that came close was the Anycubic Kobra Max, but that sucker is so big it takes up its own postal code.
@@LilApe how many people have received a wrapped bed, cause I think you talking a**. we backed the project from the very start for the X1C + AMS and have had it since and many use it has there daily driver. and there is no other consumer printer that comes close at the price.
A bit expensive, but yeah, this is probably the best one you can buy besides the upgraded X1 carbon.
Wait for the creality coreXY printer
Love videos hosted by Dan, his pace is quick but in a very understandable way, his speech keeps me engaged unlike anyone.
Also his level of insight and ability to communicate what level of insight he has is incredible. Love the little details and user experience details he is able to convey.
Love his audio videos because of this but also loving seeing him talk about other topics, seeing how he experiences different topics has been really interesting and I hope we get to see him talk about whatever topics interest him! Think he would give justice and bring interest to whatever.
I love mine, certainly a step above a prusa in terms of how much of a workhorse it is, and it's heads and shoulders above any sort of hobbyist printer. I think that it's an excellent beginner printer if you have the money to invest in the ecosystem because you learn basic maintenance without any of the headaches that come with cheap machines while getting incredible quality and speed. All the benefits of the X1C platform at a much lower price makes me almost regret my Prusa Mini purchase :P
I have a Prusa Mini and my first though after watching the video was selling it and buying this.
@@Kevinjimtheone It is super nice, but do bear in mind that everything is proprietary on the Bambulabs machines. Which means, you always have to buy via them, fixing the machine yourself with off the shelf parts, I think, is a great thing in the long run for printers like a Prusa (they do need to release something similar though).
@@VincentGroenewold Not really though, chinese clones are already popping up for the hotend. Soon they will all be availiable from 3rd parties
If you want quality and speed of a Bambu with out proprietary garbage. Build a voron. That being said quality is dependent on your patience and effort to build it correctly
@@killroy713 a voron is a tinkerer's machine, totally different user bases. It's like how not every engineer builds their own pc and buys a pre-built workstation. A voron kit is also quite expensive and requires a machine already capable of printing dimensionally accurately with ABS or ASA if you don't use the print it forward services. It's certainly the right choice for some, but an X1C or P1P is way more friendly and more approachable for the vast majority of people interested in 3DP.
I love Dan. He is now my favorite host.
First time I seen a video with this guy. He's good. I like how he gets on with it, very professional..No childish jokes and trying too hard to be funny, unlike some of the others on here, which is usually highly grating and makes me switch off.. Good job.
wow, I don't think I've ever seen Dan give a product such a glowing recommendation. I don't want or need a 3D printer, but Dan's endorsement of them is great because I have 1 or 2 friends who are in the market and I can point them specifically to this video. Great job Dan! Keep it up!
I just got the X1C and as a manufacturer, entrepreneur and patent filer type it's an absolute game changer. First time it took me 30mins to print something I designed, including learning how to export to the software and use it. I didn't leave my room and watched from my office via internal webcam. Truly in Star Trek age. 1000x easier than industrial 3 or t axis CnC machines which really need babysitting and years of experience.
Excellent video. Great job, Dan. I have been seeing more of him. I am happy he is in front of the camera more. Between Jake, Andy, and Dan, you have the A-team of employees. Great video again.
i watched this when it came out and bought a p1p about three days later its amazing and never would have known about it without this review
I did the same. Watched enough of Dan's reviews to be confident in his opinions. If it'd been a lemon he would've said so, even in a sponsored review.
Both Dan and the editor did an excellent job on this video. The information is clear, flows well, and is a good density. I don't need a new 3D printer but I still enjoyed this.
Watching this again after getting my A1 it's really impressive how much the A1 shares with their higher end models
A1 is better than P1 in a lot of ways. it's crazy good
Good job! Part of being honest and transparent with reviews / sponsors isn't just to Ding them when they screw up, but praise when its actually deserved and not marketing BS.
I have a X1C and I am at total awe of it.. amazing. I am going to get a P1P for my kids. I sold my BCN3D Sigmax that I paid at the time for 4500 euros.. I ended up selling it for 900 thankfully at a huge loss since no one what to be this old slow low tech printers. I can imagine how BCN3D can even compete going forward selling 6K printers .. game over. If you look on the classifieds there are many of them. This is truly a game changer. Buying filaments and accessories now is difficult and you need to move fast when they get it in Europe. I don't mind I stock up each time I can even if don't need it at the time. The technical materials print awesome!!!
Would love to go CoreXY after suffering with a bedslinger (Ender 3v2) for a while now, but will gladly wait for other Voron-like machines to pop up. Bambu's offerings are definitely intriguing, however, and I'm looking forward to FDM printers stop being Ender/Prusa clones :)
Voron is not ideal, there are other CoreXY DIY projects that are slightly better, like V-King and RatRig.
For the price, Bambu is where it’s at. There just isn’t anything on the market that can do what this does at this price.
Also, third party parts are already coming out for this and the X1C. That means the concerns about the ‘closed ecosystem’ are negligible.
@@realgoose my main concern about bambu is the printer firmware. No way to go back on an update and no way to manually update with like an sd card. There have been bugs in the firmware and as it stands, you are at the mercy of them responding and fixing the issue, which could be weeks, if you get a firmware bug like I and many got. Instead of waiting weeks for an update and breaking my head trying to figure out what was wrong, I could have just rolled back the firmware if it was an option and have my printer be functional right away. Then there's the question, why would a firmware bug only break some machines and not all. It's concerning and while I love my 3 x1c, I can't rely on them 100% based on my experience with them and what I've also seen other people go through. I'll be diversifying a bit with vorons probably
The i3/bedslinger design is still really good for smaller printers. You shouldn't write off a type of printers because the cheap Chinese one you got wasn't good.
@@p_serdiuk RatRig is not ideal with lead times of 12 weeks and their slightly less nice QC.
I picked one of these up a couple weeks back and i am very happy with it. My only advice is to be careful with firmware updates on the printer. When they first launch they break features. the 1.3 firmware broke wifi printing. Hope they fix it soon. That said. even with that issue. Printing from SD card works great. Its FAST and very high quality. Overall i really love this thing
Absolutely love Dan! Hate it when I actually click a link to buy something from a video and the first thing is see is "early bird package sold out"... Thats cool, I'll just not spend $700.
I ordered an X1C based on this review (P1P was sold out in EU by the time I ordered).
Holy crap, it's a fast printer!
My entire desk shakes when it's printing, but the prints come out fine.
For the people that just got one and did not do all of their homework: The printer includes a blade for the scraper model that is in the printer itself.
"Let's just do a goddamn print" I love Dan
This is the video that finally got me interested in 3d printers. Dan is amazing especially since I think he actually likes the product. I agree with other comments, would love to see some longer videos on getting into the 3D printing scene. I really really want one of these, but this is a huge new area to learn. Needs more Dan.
Fantastic video. Would love to know if you’re also running into the extreme slow Wi-Fi transfer speeds on your p1p compared to your x1 printers. Mine is painfully slow with the transfers vs my x1
Oh you're here too?
Replace the crappy included SD card. It's a hardware issue.
I could not set up the WiFi through their app. I suspect my phone has an incompatible blue tooth protocol (V4.1, A2DP vs their BLE 5.0), but I have yet to hear from their technical support to help me out. So far they have suggested to work through LAN. Compared to how well the printer worked out of the box, I was amazed how bad the set up for network connectivity was.
those of you who have not 3d printed before have no idea how many lightyears ahead of other printers the bamboo lineup is. sure, you could build a voron 2.4 with many mods to get the same sort of corexy printer using klipper which has these vibration compensations etc etc. but what you don't realize is that those are all DIY models you build yourself from scratch. These bamboo printers come out of the box, run all the calibrations themselves (which takes another 10-100 hours), then starts printing. its incredible. so incredible that I don't own one yet for my 3d printing business because it's almost too good to be true. need more time to air out and fix unknown issues. Once that has been done, it will be mine
I've had my x1 carbon for a week and it is insane how good the printer is.
versus resin printer?
@Max's Geekdom vs the creality 10s pro v2. No fussing just printing. I'd love to get my hands on a formlabs 3+ though
they say those who can't DO, buy BAMBU. That must be you. a cop out.
@@abowden5079 sure bud
@@abowden5079 lmao stay salty. Not all of us want to fiddle around tweaking an inferior design because muh open sauce. We need a tool for a job. Not a second hobby to learn. This is bringing 3d printing to the masses, we have a 3 and 5 axis and other cnc machines over a million dollars worth before you say I'm some noob. This is the first company making affordable tools like it, not toys.
I got a p1p about 1 month or so ago and its great, glad to see it on short circuit
Would be really cool to see some resin printer reviews from you guys!
I got my first (and I guess only as of now) 3d printer about 3 years ago, an ender 3 v2. It’s caused me a lot of trouble and I’ve had to tinker with its constantly, but I love it anyway. I’ve upgraded it like crazy, when it prints it prints great. In the last year or so, I didn’t touch it, it had a problem that I had issues solving. So I paid no attention to the 3d printing world. I was thinking to myself randomly that the 3d printer market is due for a massive overhaul/revolution, so I looked up some new printers to see what had changed… I think this p1p could be the start of that revolution.
It’s like an appliance. It isn’t meant to be tinkered with or tuned, it’s like you’re refrigerator in that regard. I think we all love being relatively early in the game of consumer 3d printing and the fact that we have to constantly tune our machines solidifies that we are still early, but I think it’s time now that some of us move onto something that maybe doesn’t need constant work, something that just… prints.
The p1p isn’t all the way there yet imo. But I think what you said at the end of the video is the key here, the other companies WILL come out with their answers. I wouldn’t be surprised if the p1p ends up kinda flopping in the long term if the other companies play their cards right, but I think it’s started something big
Dan killed it like always. I hope he gets 2,000,000 Canadian dollars a year
Is that you Dan???
For those wondering, it's about $3.50 real dollars per minute.
I just bought one and I'm glad that Dan shares my opinion of it, truly a great printer that's a game changer for the industry
Dan's knowledge on 3d printing has improved a lot! Happy to see more 3D printing related videos. The price/speed+quality ratio for this printer is great and I do agree that it is a very good choice for a first 3d printer. The cheaper would be the Sovol SV06 currently. The only thing I feel was missing in this video was being critical and more detailed in commenting on the "problematic" connectivity, app and cloud stuff. The issues were mentioned in the video, but then the workarounds for the "problematic" choices of Bambu were not mentioned. It was like: "Yeah Bambu has made some very problematic choices, but you can get around them with some effort, but still we really think you should buy this printer" which is not a very honest/moral/clear take. I understand it is a sponsored video, but it would be better if you made up your mind in a clear way, to either just make an AD video and not critical at all or be critical and spend time on the negatives as well. Now you mentioned the negatives, without being actually critical and explaining to the viewers what you don't like about the P1P.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought he did mention workarounds, like with the app connection didn't he say that you could skip that step, and with the cloud connectivity he said you could connect to it via LAN negating that "problem"
@@olimations Yes, exactly he mentioned the issues, but did not go into explaining why they are a problem and how easy or difficult it is to overcome the issues. I am not sure that viewers understood that it is a very cloud oriented, proprietary ecosystem with concerns about connectivity and data privacy by default. This is very much the anti-consumer mentality/business model of not having full control of a device that you own and paid for. Example the LAN-only mode is supported for the P1P only with the latest firmware update that was released 3 days ago, before that P1P owners were not able to overide the cloud (at least in an easy way). I think it is not a coincidence that the video was released so close to the firmware update, while also the P1P has been shipping for over two months now. Dan used the term "problematic", so since he did mention some of the negatives, I don't understand why there was not enough information/explaination regarding (by Dan's own words) the "problematic" decisions/business practices of Bambu.
I have an x1c and there are a few teething problems to be sure, the one plaguing me right now is the tool head cover falling off I believe because the magnets aren't strong enough to endure some of the really fast direction changes. Another bad one is usually the first print after an AMS filament change fails on the first layer (the nozzle seems too low which drags and causes a terrible mess) even when going from PETG to PETG of a different color... And to that the only way to adjust Z offset is in the start G-code, that could and should easily be a real time adjustment on the printer. I know it's also a slicer profile thing because the bambu filament profiles always print better than the generic ones. The last of my serious issues is with the magnets keeping the print sheet attached to the bed, when printing generic nylon (nylon requires painters tape with all/any of the sheets) the tool head can actually MOVE the sheet and knock into the glass/shift the Y axis so it's either 0% adhesion or far too much... Having said all that my 3d printer experience has helped me work around all those issues and I'm confident they can be fixed with relative ease, there are no fundamental faults and I can say I'm happy with my purchase though I wish I had bought it at the kickstarter price then I'd be elated with it.
Oh and the app, I have no desire to have some Chinese server as the middle man for everything I do with my printer when I'm in the same room and I've already set up a wireguard vpn for anything else. The LAN only mode has obviously been intentionally crippled as you cannot use the included USB camera or LAN file transfer, I'm not the only person angry about this and I've read that an improved LAN mode is in the works for me the sooner the better.
I want to like this but I’m going to hold out for the Prusa XL, a more open source printer without requiring accounts or cloud control. I’ll gladly pay more to support an open model and to support a company that invests into the community.
Yeah, I have one and it’s kind of creepy. Bambu Lab servers know everything about what your printer is doing at all times. And the print quality is way below average IMO
Fortunate enough to have invested in an X1C with AMS. Fantastic 3D Printer. It has its growing pains for sure. But if their first printer is any indication of what’s to come then we are in for some cool models in the future. 🎉
I’ve always wondered, can you do multiple colors for 3D prints with separate color materials? I’m more thinking along the lines of that gyroscope being 3 separate colors for each ring.
Yes, you can. Thats what the material switch systems like the bamboo ams, prusa mmu and carrot feeder do. There are also idex printers and dual nozzle printers which can utilize 2 materials.
Yes, there are dual color filaments. There are also dual extruder printers [basically two print heads/nozzles, each with its own filament]. Then there are printers that automatically change filaments for you on the fly [via either an extruder change or loading/unloading filament for you].
Quite a few options. You can even just manually load/unload colors as you go, though, that only works for simple color changes - like “I want these last 10 layers of the print to be red”.
The "vibration compensation" is actually called resonance compensation. Because the printer accelerates and moves so quickly, any resonance in the system at specific frequencies can create visible "waves" on the surface of the print. Resonance compensation adjusts the speed and acceleration of the printer on the fly to avoid those resonances and keep your external perimeters looking nice the smooth. :)
The nozzle is $15 now but they control the price so what is stopping them from selling it for $50 in the future.
Mainly that there's nothing proprietary about it. You can buy them on Amazon from other manufacturers. There's a high-temp one (500c) for $31
@@louisvaught2495 yes but $31 is a lot every time you what to replace your nozzle. and yes its not open source so it is proprietary.
@@Fjprints That's... not what proprietary means, or even what "open source" means. Physical designs aren't open or closed source because you can just digitize the physical thing and reproduce it. A "proprietary" nozzle would have to include features that make it specifically difficult to reproduce.
Having a different design isn't proprietary - it's custom. The standard design people use right now, the E3D v6 nozzle, was only standardized because they were successful. Early on, there were several different incompatible designs.
Thank you, I was just about to jump on a 3D printer, but now I will reconsider. Great gob and great Hosting. Thanks Dan! 🙂
Dan is the Bob Ross of the tech world.
As a student, that needs to save money and avoid "unnecessary" purchases, just ordered one! Thanks you for making my wallet lighter Dan! (Have always wanted one though, and will be good to get experience as an automation-engineer with parts/designing)
Why on Earth does sending the files from your computer sitting on your desk to your printer also sitting on your desk have to involve a cloud service? That's just stupid.
The wlan connectivity on this thing is pants. I could not set it up because my smartphone uses an older Blue Tooth protocol. Or perhaps some other reason. Their customer support was unable to help.
The nozzle knows where it is at all times Cuz it knows where it isn't
I wish my X1 Carbon was this nice.. It was a lemon unfortunately. I have hope for them yet, but the QA and QC needs to get handled.
I am hoping the replacement is better, we shall see. But I was running sub 40% success on mine.
Nice look at the P1P though! I enjoyed it!
@@LilApe I doubt that.. I dont think LTT as a company would support that.
As a content creator, any comment with a link is auto flagged for me because people normally post crap in them and nothing useful lol, so maybe it was a YT thing like we have.
Love Dan! Always detailed and thorough! He and David have become two of my favorites!
I'm a simple man, I sees Dave i click.
I agree
Great video, as someone who got into 3d printing not too long ago due to miniature painting its awesome to see these get talked about
Cloud? account? app? instant no for me. no, a HARD no for me. this sht should be illegal.
I have a p1s coming in the mail here soon and I cannot stop consuming all of the content on this device. Im so excited
This could've been a 5 minute video, I thought this was shortcircuit
For ad purposes sure let's do 9-10
mf is a hater for no reason
Mimimi
Speed is everything when printing quick models that don't need tons of accuracy. I started with an ender 3 v2 max and quickly outgrew it and got tired of how slow it was. I eventually went to a direct drive extruder and converted to klipper(marlin sucks compared to klipper) and am now printing at roughly 140mm/s with max acceleration settings at 4000mm/s.
19:28 Tell me bambu lab paid you without telling me bambu lab paid you...
You used the printer for one whole piece and are now saying "buy only this printer and no other"....without mentioning the glaring issues with them and the company.
-Awful build quality, from warped beds, clogged nozzles, broken AMS units, broken heatbed cables, broken MB fans, broken electronics from PSU's to extruder parts.
-Terrible customer service that takes days to respond to support tickets, then takes weeks to ship parts after a bunch of back and forth nonsense.
-Violating open source licenses
-No crash detection, resulting in bent nozzles and damaged build plates.
-A cloud system that goes down often, refusing to let people print until back online.
- NON SERVICEABLE, bambu lab wants you to send the printer back for repair when certain parts fail. Like the CF rods and bronze bushings.
-Severe lack of transparency, they blatantly rip off open source innovations, while slapping a proprietary label on it, then contributing less than the minimum to the open source projects.
Guess who does NONE of the above? The "competitor", which he meant to say is prusa.
Facts!
100%!!!
I've never owned a 3d printer before. I actually ordered an MK3 the day before the MK4 was announced. In the meantime, a friend of mine showed me his Bambu X1. He also owns a Prusa and a few others but ended up talking me into the Bambu for very much the reasons you talk about. He said it worked out of the box with minimal configuration and recommended it for a beginner. Mine comes Friday :) i'm excited to use it.
And how is it now?
Eeeew. App. Gross. How to make things that are guaranteed to be eWaste in 10 years.
The amount of times you shook the table and laid hands on the printer while talking made me extremely anxious. This is the first video of yours I've seen. You're the friend that touches too much.
Fun fact, bambu is said to be formed from previous DJI engineers, that's where they got the design language and user-friendly interface. Also they did a really good design job with the mechanical parts.
I have a Bambu P1S coming tomorrow and I am even more excited after watching this.
I bought the Bambu X1C. It arrived a week ago and has been printing almost non-stop since then.
It's wonderful!
How are you finding the noise?
The loudest part is the startup sequence where it does all of its self calibrations and such and ramps up. Once it's printing it's not all that loud outside of when it's making some quick jerking motions within a small area.
Just bought one of these after several months of wanting one and slowly saving up. Super excited to get this! Upgrading from an Ender 3... Going to be a huge jump!!
mine just came in the mail yesterday, can confirm this printer is goated
oh one tip though, the default heatbed temperature is only 35 degrees for Bambu Studio, if you use their software I would strongly recommend increasing the heatbed temperature to 60 or even 70 degrees for PLA, took me a while to figure out that's the reason my prints kept getting unstuck and going spaghetti
I'd love to have one. I learned a lot from using an Ender and it is really fun to tinker but it can sometimes be a hassle (bed leveling especially) when I just want to print something.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but Linus has made such an amazing team, all people that host a video are so passionate for tech and when they branch out to specific categories I enjoy it so much and I value each of there opinion. It’s such an amazing team.
Make the LTT deskpad as it is but add a UV layer on the circuit traces so the electric traces are lit if u have an ultraviolet light.
( and maby on the nothern lights, colored uv )
UV-reactive northern lights deskpad
I have had my p1p for the last two moths and its seriously beast! With an enclosure its just as capable as an X1
I'm not going to lie, I came into this video not caring about the product and might leave without caring, but what got me here was seeing Dan in the thumbnail.
I really enjoy Dan's videos. This was a good product review.
Sounds like it's finally a time to get a 3D printer - a time where you longer have to fight with the device and teoubleshoot it but instead devote 100% of the time to creative process. Took a while but we got there in the end 😊
17:27 when he said he wants it to go faster, and bangs on the desk saying speed, that made me lol
Just got here. Yay new Dan video!! Let's goooo
This guy is such a great host! - the voice, the charisma, the knowledge 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I'm still manually leveling on an Artillery Sidewinder X1, for anyone new wanting to get into 3D printing, buy into auto leveling, without question, also E3D's Revo hotend system is another QoL upgrade.
First time I’ve seen your site. Really good stuff - well done on all levels, lighting, sound, editing, and not to mention your excellent content & delivery…bravo.
Thanks Bambu for sponsoring ShortCircuit. I've been eyeing your printers since seeing the X1's in LTT videos, but it's always been a bit out of price range. Seeing that the P1P is a more budget-allowable model, and hearing this praise plus praise online, I've purchased one.
For what it's worth, if the QR codes for the filaments are made open, that would've made a HUGE impact towards the buying decision and there wouldn't have been a "decision," just in my opinion. Also sadly the P1P camera isn't currently in-stock, but whenever it does show up, I'll look forward to getting one.
This was a great video. I'd love to see a similar pace and tone with other prosumer products. It kinda reminded me of some of Wendel's reviews from Level1Techs. It is engaging without being over-the-top.
I just got a 3d printer for my birthday yesterday and it has been incredible. I've been watching 3d printing content for years now, and now every 3d printing video I watch is so much more interesting and incredible now. Maybe it's just Dan though.
This next gen printer is changing the game. I’ve got a few videos coming soon on them I absolutely love the Ams as well. Just fantastic.
I have been watching these printers and really like them. I went from a XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 to a Creality Ender-3 and my next will most likely be a Bambu.
Another great Dan review. Love the pacing and honest opinion. Makes me wish a needed a 3d printer
Just bought the printer because of this video. Order submitted and product on the way.
It's funny. My partner and I want a new 3D printer because we were fed-up with our old Ender 5 for being so crap. We'd been looking at a Prusa but then I saw the Lab Update the other day and Dan had the Bambu printers set up. I'd never heard of them so I looked them up and found the P1P. I told my partner and it went to the top of the list of choices for our next printer. A few days later and Dan gives us this stellar review. Thanks very much!
Do your research on them, They are unreliable and non serviceable. Stick with prusa if you want something that will still work after a 100hrs.
@@LilApe "Stick with prusa if you want something that will still work after a 100hrs."
Got 220 hours on mine without issues this far.
Having a P1P now for a month there are some downsides:
- its really loud.
- It needs good filament. Filament that worked for my old Ender 3 S1 is not working at high speed on the P1P, while other (e.g. marble PLA) works like a charm.
Besides that: its a great printer (incl. support!) and I am not missing my S1 at all.
Hobby 3d printer-er here: I got a super cheap 3D printer about a year ago, only 150€ new (Anycubic Mega SE). Now it can produce very decent prints, but with features, when compared to Prusa printers, it sucks. Compared to the Bambu printers, it really sucks. But as a project to tinker on itself, it is really fun.
As a hobbyist, I don't need results asap, and I love tinkering with machines; for example, I'm currently designing my own hotend shroud to improve the part cooling and reduce noise.
While the technologic advancement from BambuLab printers is fascinating, the printers themselves are kinda boring to me. Budget printers are fun to improve, and there will always be something to tinker on.
I own the P1P for 2 months now and absolutely love the printer and what its capable of. What I don't like so much is Bambu Labs attitude. Their customer support is rather special from my point of view. Just recently I asked to return a delivery, for a full refund just as it arrived (yes we can do this in the EU, it's the law*) and they asked me for a photo of the unopened package to be eligible for the return. Excuse me what?
One other thing is, that when the P1P just came out, there were no tutorials for all the repairs and you often had to follow those for the X1C (which is a lot like the P1P but a different printer nevertheless). The inevitable happened and I accidentially ripped a tiny ribbon cable, during unclogging the extruder, because it wasn't mentioned in the online repair manual. I thought customer support might just send me a new one for free, because we kinda share the blame here, but boy was I wrong. Not only didn they asked me to buy a replacement from them, I was supposed to pay 45€ for an entire new extruder assembly because they don't sell the ribbon cable separately. Just two points on that:
1. If the didn't use ribbon cables, but normal wires, I would have even been able to fix it myself (or it wouldn't have broken in the first place). So much for proprietary parts and its downsides
2. Why would I want a free replacement for something I broke? Because that is awesome customer service and makes your customers come back ever and ever again! I am now in a state of mind where I said to myself, as soon as prusa releases a similar product, I will jump ships, because their customer support was excellent so far in my experience.
Another example for great customer support and why it's so important:
Just recently my LTT water bottles 1st gen lid snapped (the rubber part). I wrote to support and they sent me a 2nd gen replacement lid FOR FREE. This is customer service and this is why I have also bought the LTT Screwdriver and I am currently looking into getting the backpack, which is not cheap either. But at least I am certain that when something goes wrong with it, I can count on the great customer support, which for me personally is well worth the money.
tl;dr:
Bambu Lab products --> great
Bambu Lab philosophy and support --> a LOT of headroom
*europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/shopping-consumer-rights/index_en.htm
Really your blaming bambu for not sending you a free replacement cause your clumsy and broke a ribbon cable and then compare it to a ltt water bottle that actually had a quilty issue. Don't get me wrong they should have the cable separate but with how cheap there selling the complete components it seems pretty fair to me. compared to the other option of allowing customers like you to bring up the price of all the components cause there sending them out for free and have to make up that expense elsewhere by passing it on to everyone.
@@user-tj7xr6xd9z First of all: your opinion is a valid opinion. But it’s just that. Your opinion. Let others have theirs.
Now to the assumptions you made:
No I am not clumsy. Don‘t judge or generalise me because of one TH-cam comment you read.
I am not discussing matters further with you on that personal level.
Have a nice day.
Dan does the best content. Straightforward
Great to see the little bro of the X1/X1C get featured. It is a neat pla/petg printer and great entry for reasonable price.
I watched him slam the shit out of that table while it was printing and the printer was not phased a bit.
100% sold on this badboy
*adds to cart*
omg this thing is insanely fast. I bought myself an Ender 3 a while back ... but might find myself getting a Bambu printer now!
Amazing work Dan. You smashed this out the park. And yes it’s a fantastic printer as well.