I regret my purchase... - MSI MEG 342C
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
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Plouffe loves his Alienware AW3423DW monitor. It's got a high refresh rate, QD-OLED panel, nicely curved screen, and a great design... but now there's competition! MSI's new MEG 342C has a tasteful black and gold colour scheme, a nice touch of RGB, and a high-powered USB-C port while still maintaining the excellent QD-OLED panel the Alienware does. Is Plouffe's favourite monitor about to change?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Plouffe has a monitor
0:31 Unboxing
1:47 Installing the stand
3:06 Display specs, design, and ports/buttons
6:11 Sponsor - Secretlab
6:41Shoutout to the included cables
7:17 HDMI woes
7:53 HDR impressions
8:59 OSD settings
12:08 Stand adjustments and hot key
13:33 Gaming - Counter-Strike
14:11 Why ClearMR is important
15:09 Gaming - Resident Evil 4 Remake
17:11 Pricing and overall thoughts
18:13 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
NO PLOUFFE.. NO! Every unboxing you regret buying something you bought after a previous unboxing.
That is life. Buyer's regret FTW ;)
@@martingorbush2944 meanwhile I am still rocking my 60 hz 1080 24 inches from the dark ages.
@@IcHamza Same lmao
That's the curse of the tech enthusiast
A normal person would simply buy a product and be done with it.
Us geeks will always be updated on the new products though, and regrets will happen
It's also good though, means there's been a progression, which os exciting
@@martingorbush2944 True. I try to buy something better for longer term and my excuses not to upgrade is: 1st - still works; 2nd - can't afford anything better :D
Loving the built-in KVM trend. As someone who works from home, I'd love to see it become standard across monitor manufacturers
Same here
Same here! I am hoping that programmable hardware "macro button" can be programmed to switch between computers. Many other monitors with integrated KVM still require you to go into the OSD and navigate the menus to do the switch.
@@CheekSoda Surely that's problematic though as how often are you going to need to switch between multiple Windows PCs? More likely you want to switch to Linux, or a game console, so you still need to use the OSD to switch back.
@@alexatkin The OS you're on is irrelevant as the KVM switch/macro should just switch between outputs.
That's the case on my M34Q; I hit the button and it switches between DP for my PC and whatever I have plugged into the USB-C (my work laptop or even my phone with Samsung Dex). There's no reason to go into the OSD if you're just switching inputs.
@@rahelwijeyekoon9403 Ah sorry I misread your post, thought you meant a keyboard macro. Yeah a hardware button on the monitor is good, have the M28U myself. The only flaw with my monitor is the lack of decent power output on USB-C so if I plug the Steam Deck in the battery still drains.
11:34 That is one of my favorite videos you got on display there, I absolutely love watching those tour videos or the like in a big high resolution screen and just relaxing. I watch a lot of bus tours and things like that after a long day at work cause I find it relaxing to just sit back have my meal and then turn in for the day. I personally can't drive anymore due to an accident and I used to like my trip to work cause it was a short drive through the valley or back roads and so this is kind of an extension of that. I miss those daily trips there was a river alongside near my place that I got to stop by and it meant I was near home.
It looks like a vesa mount stand which means that even when your monitor dies, you can reuse the stand which is nice
It's so ugly why would you re-use it
@@Cal97g desperation and or lack of money
At least this monitor actually has HDMI 2.1, but I’m just glad that more OLED monitors are coming out now.
Why do you need HDMI 2.1 for 1440P @ 175hz?
@@joeskow 10 bit color
@@joeskow and if you ever want to use like a console with your monitor. Nice to have VRR as an option. Both consoles now support 1440p too.
OLD OLED panels - so don't get excited. End of FY23 the new OLED V2 Samsung QD panels will drop into computer monitors. These current OLEDs are never worth more that $700 ish tops. OLD OLD OLD. Don't fall for it.
@@8020Alive You should include why the newer ones are better to make your comment more valuable
Can't wait for this stuff to get cheaper tbh, I remember forking out for a 'nice TN' with 144hz years ago when it was pretty much a choice between 1080p 144hz or 1440 60hz unless you were going to really splurge. Yet now I'm sat with an ips 1440p 165hz monitor which wasn't much more than my old 1080p one. Don't get me wrong, it's cool looking at this higher end stuff but I love seeing the tech trickle down over the years
I still love my VAs. But I’m a big fan of curved monitors, and the fact that we’re getting curved IPS and namely OLED displays now is great, but I’m more than willing to wait another 5-10 years for those to cost me the same $400 my 32” curved 1440 165hz monitor did 😅
Likewise, due to exchange study I've been out of a loop in PC hardware for 2 years, and remember looking for 1440p TN 60hz monitors with gsync which costed 500 usd. Last summer i finally got back and got a 165hz, 1440p, IPS, hdr400, gsync monitor for 240 usd. (Approx, i got it in Taiwan)
As exciting as the high-end can be, it's awesome seeing the new standard of affordable choices.
ye when this gets 500 or less then ill be interested.
I also have a 144hz 1080p TN, it does actually look nice enough when sitting in the centre. I'm currently waiting for a 1440p high refresh rate monitor with good local dimming for HDR. Cooler Master has one already for ~$500, but I did hear it has some issues.
@@leonro at the current rate of new and better monitors, I'd say just wait a year and you'll get it for even better than 500
They lock color temperature control in the HDR presets. So that means you can't calibrate your expensive monitor as it's all locked out :(
This is a deal breaker for content creators but I wonder why… probably trying to force you to buy “pro creative” tiers
Same forme like being a curve one, y hate curve monitors....
No serious professional would do color critical work on a curved monitor, never
@@GiJoe94 Even a freelancer LOL. But being locked is so fucking trash.
The delta E is less than 2, but that might not be true for HDR content. If it’s already accurate I don’t think your complaint is valid, but I haven’t finished the video yet.
2:50 missed a chance to plug in LTT screwdriver :(
They are working on your active recall, it’s genius marketing
@@fastandfidler i dont think that was intentional lol
lol can tell your an avid watcher of the channels you're expecting some sort of Segway at specific times
Stop giving them ideas, it's obnoxious enough already. The only plugs I like are the bananas for scale because of the meme.
@@nottsoserious i like em all
Another monitor review, another time we are reminded this lad has an AW3423DW.
I wouldn't have it any other way. c:
I still remember the time he declared, “I own a monitor.”
Of course we are. I've had quite a few monitors over the years and nothing really comes close to this one in terms of the overall package. Perfect size, perfect blacks, insane response time, godly HDR.
I love this monitor but the worst thing about it is not being able to use a fire stick and watch HDR content.
@@MiDnYTe25bro u better not be lying, I'm thinking about picking this up in a few when micro center open. I'm going to take ur word for it. I own the g8 oled, and the input and response time is soon high, I'm returning it for this one
I have the original G9 and even though it only has like 9 dimming zones, the HDR looks super good in games that support it. I love how headlights in Forza actually look like they are emitting light.
I wish they would demo the KVM functionality. As someone who has a KVM for work n play, I wanna know how if it works well before I buy it. Could be a small demo they could do in the future
@4:52 One more thing - this monitor is supposed to have 4× USB-A ports. There are 2× USB-A near the DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 ports, and another 2× USB-A ports on the side of the monitor.
Yeah they show that
I'll fully believe it when I see documentation that states it in writing, but this is claimed to have a 3 year warranty with burn-in coverage, at least according to MSI's own livestream for the release of this monitor. While it's 1100 USD, in Europe this has a 1499 EUR MSRP price tag (assuming included 20% tax). Very hard to swallow when it's competing against the Samsung OLED G8 (1299 EUR), Alienware DW (1199 EUR), DWF (1099 EUR).
Indeed, I have the G8. And apart from the infinitely better ui the Msi has, there isn't a big difference.
The G8 does have an external power brick and uses non standard cables.
So overall the Msi does seem to be better but not for that price increase.
Also the G8 has been discounted recently on German Amazon. I got mine for 1,100 a month ago
Alienware AW3423DWF is often sold for £900 or less and I definitely prefer the design. €1,499 is too much, I'm not seeing anything here that justifies the higher price. It is an outstanding panel though.
859 euros for this one in the Netherlands ATM. Megekko, Bol, Alternate etc.
@@SinisterSkip yeah, that's a good price, if it was 6+ months ago. Today, the 32" 4K 240 Hz monitors are now slowly becoming available on the market, and for me at least, the MEG 342C is no longer relevant. I believe this is the case for many people and MSI knows this, so they are forced to lower the price to move existing stock.
I think 175Hz is perfectly fine for 95%+ of PC users who don't play extremely fast shooters. Also, if you talk about 'relevance', a monitor above 1k is not relevant for most people. @CheekSoda
I think the I/O for this monitor is really good. I got the Samsung G8 OLED version of this panel and their I/O is MiniDP, MicroHDMI, USB-C (65W DP), and USB-C 15W and that's IT. Then they included a MiniDP to DP cable which would be fine with a GPU but I only had my laptop at the time so I had to go hunt down a Thunderbolt/high throughput USB C cable. Wish Samsung just included one of those or an HDMI cable instead as that seems more standard. But I will say having the USB-C inputs is really cool for sharing my keyboard and for DP/power delivery with my work laptop.
Great video! I totally agree with you on UW, curve, and screws to secure monitor, even if it clips in. However, I disagree with you on brightness and height. The height you mentioned the posture ramifications, but the brightness is bad for your eyes. Several Techies recommend turning it down, not up. Better for your eyes long term, and you can play longer without eye fatigue. I have an older MSI 34" UW with 1800R, great initiation to the market, now I wish I had 1500 or 1000 R curvature. Oh well, I am not changing monitor as there is nothing wrong with it and it is still great for work and gaming.
The back of this thing looks like the inside of a Goa'uld ship from Stargate and I love it.
@ 13:10 ... so that is actually a bug in windows. If you set your refresh rate first then switch to portrait mode you can have a high refresh rate on your monitor. for some reason when you switch to portrait mode in windows it locks your refresh rate to whatever it was previously set at.
What, really? Is that specifik to ultrawide? Because I can adjust frequency on my portrait monitor just fine
Nice review. Currently rocking the LG 45" OLED but text can be just a touch fuzzy so thinking of grabbing this just to do a side by side and see who wins the spot on my desk
text fuzzyness is also dependent on how the cleartype is set up. But if you sit too close you can see color fringing (tbh normal rgb monitors also have this issue but cleartype can work around it better)
You have to love the short circuit team.
Built in KVM & 65w charging this is my dream “work” monitor 😮
this is so gonna be my next upgrade alongside a new 16:9 monitor cuz im getting 200-300 fps in most of my games but im only sporting a 75hz monitor at the moment i used to have a 120hz laptop so i can also tell theres decent room for improvement
Plouffe…. LMG obviously needs to just provide your home monitor as THE monitor guy. No more FOMO etc. Thanks for your killer work as always
Yeah i would look at the hardware unboxed test from this monitor compared to the other competition from alienware and so on to deside witch one to buy.
Plouffe, you're awesome man! Hope to see more of your videos my dude
Im so excited for OLED Panels and you really see that he is too! Love it! Im so close to selling my LG Ultrawide to get something OLDE but i payed 1k for that thing and its hard to justify one thats even more expensive.....
I'm in the same boat 😄 it's really itching
I love that nav nip
Have the alienware variation, its hard to go wrong with this particular panel.
Black bars had been my biggest issue with ultrawides for a long time. For example i stopped playing resident evil 7 because i couldnt stand the bars and no way to mod the game. Im still so happy for every 99% black loading screen to appear on my aw3423dw now. I have had it for a year and still its so magic to see small icons floating in the void.
Bro I played re7 on my samsung 49 inch ultrawide with no black bars, I think i used some program/patcher. Almost every game I've come across that doesn't support ultrawide, there's an easy fix out there just do more research.
@@LostButWon i have only tried for a few months after release and it just wasnt possible back then.
so are you saying to get the aw3434dw to not have black bars?
@@lakzerk2344 the black bars problem is a game and video dependant thing. On the OLED its actually not that bad because you wont have this "bright black" from lcds making the black bars very obvious. I play in a dark room and when the oled switches to 16:9 i cant see the rest of the monitor anymore as if it was 16:9 in the first place.
Now nearly 1 year of extensive use later i start to nitice burnin especially noticable at the borders between 16:9 and 21:9. The "unused" outer part of the 12:9 is clearly brighter than the 16:9 overlap and with steam in fullscreen for example there is a noticable color difference resulting in a straight line from top to bottom on boths sides from "fullscreen" videos.
With OLED the black bars are less of an inconvenience but still kinda frustrating if you cant use the whole monitor.
Its insane how much more expensive this monitor is in Europe... 1499 MSRP is crazy with other monitor brands being 200-300 euros lower. Its still an amazing looking monitor!
The gold is the signature color for the Meg line up. All my Meg mother boards has that color.
that looks like the stand is VESA-compliant.. that's really dang nice if it is.
OLED panels might just bring back screen savers. I've been running a screen saver again for a while now, and honestly it's kinda great and nostalgic.
Bring Johnny Castaway back! 😁
I dunno, they keep getting better and better at reducing burn in. Before I bought my Alienware I watched a review where the dude intentionally left is on a static image for like a week while he was on vacation to see what would happen. It was totally fine. I just turn mine off when I’m not using it, and if I forget when I go to work it’s not a big deal.
12:05 the little blink caught me off guard 👀
He’s a great reviewer from a technical standpoint. I’d love him to review the LG UltraGear 48GQ900
He already did.
I got an lg c2 11 months ago and it's absolutely great, the issue is that it's not as easy or cheap to run 4k games than it is to run at 1440. Just something to consider if you're looking for high end oled screens.
Coming from a 34in 1440p UW to a 42in LG C2 I have to say that I like the C2 better in almost every way. No wasted space/black bars, super sharp, and if you really want you can emulate an UW with a custom resolution.
Also I bought my C2 new for $800, $1100 seems too high even if it is QD-OLED.
Same here. 800 with a bigger screen vs 1100. I've really enjoyed the LG so far.
That C2 is a TV that goes to 120 Hz. Whereas the QD-OLED goes up to 165-175 Hz, supports full KVM functionality (WITH USB-PD at 65W), and is generally better for PC gaming.
I just got the Acer Predator X34 S and I love it so far. I think it has gsync ultimate or at least a module.
I've tried to not go 100% into any brand because they all make mistakes, but I've gotten so lucky with all the MSI stuff I've bought. Definitely not a perfect company but I think I will definitely be getting this monitor if possible.
Been looking around for it. I'm confident that it will be for sale sometime within the next 20 years or so.
That new Vesa rating thing looks like a good next Tech Quickie :D
Built-in KVM can be a money-saver too, depending on how feature-rich it is.
This is a crispy detailed review great job Plouffe & Co.
Odyssey G8 Oled has all the bells and whistles I need. Definitely check it out. (I know Linus already done a video)
I find myself revisiting this view seeing it with a £400 discount to £899 in UK.
i got an LTT ad on this vid 😭😭like a dedicated build redux ad with linus and riley LMFAO that was so odd to me i didn’t expect that
1800R on a monitor this size is nice. I picked up a Samsung G8 Oled (same panel) last week and love it but at least the MSI has full size connectors........what where you thinking Samsung?
Same, I love the G8’s stand and UI, and the speakers are surprisingly usable.
But yeah the ports are scarce and weird. It should at least come with a microHDMI to HDMI adapter.
This was the monitor i wanted for a while before it came out. I decided i didn't want to wait to make an upgrade and wemt with the LG C2 OLED 42 EVO and I have no regrets.
My understanding when trying to look for info on this monitor a few months ago is that it has the same panel as both Alienwares (the DW and the DWF), the first of which was released a year ago. Supposedly there will be newer qd-oled panels coming out this year with better brightness and less burn-in. For this price (the same as the Alienware DWF model released a few months ago), it feels a little late to the party
I’m rlly curious about the article or video u found talking about upcoming better panels later this year. I want to buy an ultra wide qd oled but might hold out if this is true
yeah this is another Samsung QD-OLED just like his current display.
@@EthanDolman I don't remember the exact articles I read, but if you search for Samsung Display qd-oled 2023 you will find press releases with at least some of the details
I've been watching the 342C for a hot minute, since it was announced like, a year and a half ago, and seeing this has confirmed that im gonna finally make the jump to QD-OLED from the Odyssey G5, which will be relegated to a 3rd monitor.
oled has me apprehensive af especially for a monitor. Buying a 1k+ display and hoping it'll last 5 years without your screen degrading is just a strange concept to me.
When screwing in the stand, you missed the PLUG for the LTT Screwdriver! :)
I only wish this had a better HDR rating. Otherwise it seems like it's almost perfect.
If more 34 in oled ultrawides are coming out can we soon get a video comparing them this year I never thought of ultrawide cause of them being made under 34' but now I'm interested to switch instead of my two monitor setup
I have an MSI Artymis 343CQR that I love, but I kinda wish I had waited a while, lots of nice OLEDs coming out.
Stick with what you got for a few years (especially when you are satisfied) and the available alternatives will be even nicer and also cheaper.
@dynastes definately, I spent good money on this one and I love it, it will be a long time before replace it.
Looking forward to the next keyboard review, hoping we can get a Royal Kludge in there… punches above their weight when on sale….
my TV rated for HDR10+ I push the panel upto peak 1000 and to help the panel live ive always kept the TV and the computer cooled with an AC so its temps are usually below 70 sometimes gets as low as 58c on the Display's Temps. My TV has at least 1500 hrs on in use.
Im thinking about getting this one because of the USB C connection. Im just not sure how much the fringing and lower ppi is going to bother me since currently in my studies to becoming a programmer. Sadly, there is not a single store in reach that has ANY 110 ppi oleds out for show.
I haven't found the 110 ppi oled fringing issue to be that bad at all. It honestly looks just like my older 110 ppi lcd. I have an LG panel, so maybe the Samsung is different, but I think this issue is not as bad as its made out to be.
That "pffffffffft" from behind the camera got me 😂
08:48 I remember CRTs red. They either looked bland or SUPER saturated even if i ran RGB SCART or v component video 😛
I own an MSI G27C 1st gen and it was a nightmare. It wouldn’t detect most inputs that other monitors have no problem with and would randomly turn blue. Now the HDMI and DP connectors only work at 1280 x 800 and look terrible.
the black and gold looks fancy
The first time I booted up rdr2 on my Alienware qd oled gave me a physical reaction. It was amazing.
Oh hey, it's Plouff with a display!
Love that guy
Gas spring monitor arms are excellent for these ultrawide monitors.
I think I'm going to have to wait for 4k 175Hz+ OLED monitors to justify upgrading from my 1440p 144Hz IPS panel... but I can't wait for that day to come lol
Awesome review, new sub over here!
@2:20 the hexagon design language is something that has filtered down from Lamborghini cars.
No one is going to talk about the AWESOME headphone microphone combo jack? Never seen a monitor with it yet I've always wanted mine to have it. Only having headphone out is such a bummer
Damn, I sure would like to have a QD-OLED that wasn't expensive as hell and curved. Maybe I'm just showing up to the party too early and there won't be any QD-OLED monitors for mere mortals until 2024.
@1:09 that monitor stand with gold accent, looks like a Gundam V fin.. 😂😂
Can you cover other features like using a monitor as a laptop dock and or daisy chaining monitors?
I'm fairly sure daisy chaining isn't a thing without thunderbolt, and possibly USB 4.0? Either way, it would need to have 2 ports, this just has a single USB C.
I would have bought this RIGHT now as it's on for 999 CND but that 4 hour massive notification after 4 hours for OLED pixel refresh is a deal breaker. Some days I do 8 hour sessions lol.
You can skip pixel refresh and do it when you're done.
This monitor goes for just 830-860 bucks in the Netherlands, shops like Bol, Megekko, Alternate, Coolblue etc. Absolutely excellent deal.
Seeing this and currently planning my next build to be in a Fractal North with the copper/gold accents. I feel this might be a must buy just to make the setup look sharp. Damn.
Waiting for a 40" 21:9 2180p 100Hz in some OLED and curved technology
I wonder how long it will be until native 4K capable 5040x2160 panels hit the mass market...
Would love to see some creator displays. Adobe rgb and p3.
Watching on an Alienware AW3423DW.
incredible shame that you didnt try kvm feature. i was wondering if that hotkey can be used for kvm, switching from laptop to desktop computer
+1 this seems to the the only QOLED with KVM at the moment, and nobody is talking about it!?
i am waiting until october then i am buying one of these, not decied yet if i want miniLED or QD-OLDE yet
What’s with Plouffe and monitors? And keyboards?
So it sounds fair to say this is the Alienware but with better I/O.
With that low pixel response even 60 FPS are gonna look responsive, which at this point you could basically see stutters from bad frame times better lol.
Internal power bricks make cable management so much better
My Alienware one does have one small issue. I can see slight lines where the edge of 16:9 content would be. I can only really see them on flat colors and when gaming if I look for them. however its in my periphery and I forget about them instantly when I start playing a game. I've been using my monitor maybe 8 hours a day for about a year now. Don't regret my purchase at all. If the issue gets worse i still got 2 years to get a new one. That warranty provides nice peace of mind.
I watch a fair bit of youtube, and most of that will be 16:9. So your comment has made me want to give up on these OLED's. I keep going back and forth, ready to pull the trigger on this one... then I read your comment.
@@SaltedSlug85 well the Alienware has a 3 year warranty that covers this stuff. I think TH-cam is what did it for me. I think it's just from one part of the panel having a lot more use than the other. I do watch 6 hour d and d sessions with mostly stagnant character portraits, stats, and stuff. I don't think normal burn in would be an issue but the ultra wide that's used for 16:9 does have a slightly different tint on the sides. Mostly noticeable on flat colors.. could send you a pic on discord or something if you wanna see it.
@@clownavenger0 I figured this might happen. I thought if you do the full panel refresh it would basically reduce power to the pixels that aren't used as much. So they would match up with the middle but you lose brightness every time.. Permanently. Starting to sound like I'll use cheaper panels until microled is a thing.
@@SaltedSlug85 Yeah I only notice it when I look for it buts its a bit brighter on the sides. Well in 2 years ill prob be buying a new monitor either way so if it gets bad after the warranty period I got 3 good years of very heavy use.
The shimmering in Resident Evil 4 was most likely due to the film grain effect.
I wish you'd have also tested a 4k UHD movie on this monitor! 😂
Holly hell man. It's the first of its kind Ultra Wide Oled with KVM, USB-C included and they didn't tested it ;___;
Can you get Linus to review the Philips Evnia 34 as he was really enthusiastic for QD LED when he did his video on them
This just made me regret the Samsung G8 OLED I just bought. The software bugs and strange inputs make it really unpleasant to use.
Not regretting my LG oled 240hz 😊
Oh yeah. Writing this on a g7 and the worst part of owning it is easily the software/firmware bugs.
@@RadialSeeker113 What bugs? Is that the G7 Neo?
At least you have a better stand.
2160p, 240Hz QD-OLED and I'm set. This is almost there, but not quite.
I love that I can see the coating damage from here, 1000's of miles away.
Like the Alienwares, no thank you. Protect your super sensitive panels better manufacturers, how hard is it.
Yeah, I saw that too. At 3:54 the left side looks to be ruined already. It seems only Samsung had more than 1 brain cell to at least slap a screen protector on this panel.
Then later on they're eating RMA + restocking/packaging losses because people return them for scratched panels out of the box.
Plouffe you missed an obvious shoutout to the screw driver!
It is on sale on newegg in Canada for 999 CAD now, is it a good buy? Or there are better affordable options over the past year?
I am not sure if I just missed it but the RGB strip on the bottom is so distracting... is there going to be anything you can do with it, and will you have to download MSI's software to control it??
seems promising. I love these cutie OLED panels
When are you guys getting the Phillips Evnia monitors?
Great for racing games 🏎️
12:23 its your neck you need to worry about. My posture is bad while gaming for 40 years. It's only in the past few years my neck is hurting from bad posture. The pain starts in my neck and works its way to my head and forehead. I get a massive headache from it especially on warm / hot summer days. My necksometimes hurts when I'm not gaming. I saw videos 15+ years ago warning it would happen and I thought it would never happen to me
for those on the fence, this monitor is better than the alienware because it has KVM built in and logo dimming, something that the alienware lacks entirely, the logo dimming pretty much prevents the static elements from burning in, that feature is amazing and something that all OLED's should have