The 2021 Jeep Gladiator Diesel Is Finally Here - Everything You Want to Know!
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I'm more excited about how this diesel will turn my 37 inch tires on the trail not so much towing
Exactly
Frfr bro!
and you can propably easily fit the lower gearing from the gas versions+ a tune will do wonders on a diesel
@@joshkiej6601 exactly
I like it
I read on a forum where a Jeep engineer got on to address the 6000 lbs. towing limit. The diesel can tow more weight as a powerhouse. The problem came in cooling the engine. A diesel runs hotter. Jeep has a smaller engine compartment than most trucks with the wheels outside the engine compartment. They couldn't get enough air into the engine compartment to cool the engine so limiting towing weight was the needed. The diesel's grill will have wider slots to get greater airflow. They tried an air scoop under the bumper, but it added little airflow and they didn't want to limit off road capabilities and that added one more piece that would true rock crawlers would break off so that was not used. Bottom line, the weight limitation all boiled down to keeping the diesel engine cool.
Everyone: WE want a diesel gladiator!
JEEP: Here ya go!
Everyone: Nevermind don’t want it no more!
My dealer does 7% under invoice on custom orders and he told me that he’s already taken tons and tons of orders
What dealer is that?
Smarter Than You yeah what he said what dealer
@@jeffreythomas4254 Don't know what dealer he's talking about, but I'd give Dave Smith in Kellogg Idaho a call, they're the world's largest dodge ram jeep dealer, and the north wests largest GM dealer, and they sell Nissan and other stuff. If anyone can get you a good deal they can, they sell off of volume and get massive kickbacks from manufacturers because of that.
@@mattbrew11 BS!
You can buy a Ram 2500 Laramie with the 6.7L Cummins for less money!
So let’s recap, fiat diesel motor so worse reliability .. worse payload, worse towing, more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain, more expensive fuel. You gotta be a true sucker to buy this thing or just have money to burn and you wanna lift it and put 40s on and still have torque to the move the damn thing!
idk, in europe we get a 2.2 diesel in the wrangle which sells well and is reliable too. Light pickup trucks here tend to use a 2.0 or 2.5 diesel anyways and they get tow ratings of up to 8000lbs and a payload of about 2200 lbs... the best example i know is the isuzu Dmax
I've been waiting for this since the 3rd gen ecodiesel was announced. I can't wait.😁😁😁😆😆😆😆
Ill give it 3-5 years to see if its reliable. Fiat Chrysler makes subpar components
Michael 90 your so right on that! If I’m gonna pay that crazy price premium for a mid size truck, it better be reliable as well as perform. Can the words reliable, perform and Jeep be used in the same sentence? 😂. I’m really rooting for this Jeep combo to do well. It will force the other midsize competition to up their game...I hope.
i disagree.
@@j.agaicra5899 I hope the truck does well too. Always hesitant to buy a first gen truck from any manufacturer
please you full of it rated as high as Mercedes who used to build cars in their factories
Their putting the fiat V6 Diesel in it rather then the Cummins V6 diesel so Like you I’m going to wait a while to see how they are
A very well presented and candid review! Nice work!
I want the Wagoneer in the thumbnail!
I clicked on the video hoping they'd show it.
Jeep dealer order guide shows $4000 MSRP for the diesel (plus the $2000 for transmission), so a $6000 upgrade over the base gas/manual. Invoice price is $5400 for the combo. And it is available on all 3 trim levels.
There is word on the street that the 3.6 gas is going to be replaced with an all new inline 6 cylinder. They need to just bring back the 4.0 with a modern power twist and get some big torque along with the reliability of the old 4.0 and get back to the core of what it meant to have a jeep!
Thanks for the update, Andre! Nice job. I think this is the Gladiator I would get for overlanding. That low end torque, better fuel economy and range are big plusses.
Great video and education. I learned so much. Thanks for sharing.
US emissions and diesels just don't seem to mix.
Guys if you want your diesel engine to last Turn off/delete that stop-start system. This system and diesel engines is a very bad combination!
@The Insufferable Tool turboo over heating 😂
Yeap Travis is right it will destroy your turbo...
@The Insufferable Tool it's due to the high compression ratios that diesels have. Inconsistent compression is bad for them. Not to mention the hell that it puts a turbo through.
No kidding, our FedEx trucks have idle kill on them and it's hard on the engine for sure. The engine dies at a stoplight after a few minutes and cuts out sometimes just before the light turns green. Serious pain!
Lovin’ every minute of it.
Glad I bought my 1500 Silverado High Country with the 3.0L Turbo Diesel. Not only is it the best 3.0 diesel engine in the game, it is also priced the best.
That is an awesome engine in the Silverado and runs great!
Appreciate the responses, fellas! I did think hard about the choices too, and drove all competitive options in the half-ton and quarter ton market. In the end the Silverado drove the best, had the best features for me, and the mileage is goddamned astounding! I recently did a highway trip, and at half a tank I had traveled 400 miles!!!
I like that engine excepr that the oil pump is powered by a rubber belt thats in the back of the engine. An internal rubber belt subjected to numerous heat cycles and living in oil? They claim it lasts 100k, but to replace it you have to pull the transmission and transfer case! To me thats as bad as some engines with internal water pumps. they leak, your engine dies.
It just came out. I would hope that it’s issue free. Gonna be a few years before it can be called. “Best in the game”. Good luck with it man. They are nice rigs.
Guessing 70k for a midsize truck with a low tow railing.... really bummed out with the rating
Finally. A much needed option to add to the Jeep lineup.
Bill Jamison why? Only gets maybe 200lbs better towing, only 3-4 more mpg. All for $4,000 more option plus the added maintenance cost and higher fuel prices
Devin Bender
More power to move the boat
Devin Bender I think it’s more like 5-7 additional Mpg.
Alan Bowers even still. $4000 up front and $10-30 more every time you fill up and $20-40 more every oil change. Pass
FYI. Diesel right now here near ft worth tx is 20 cents cheaper then 87 octane gas.
I want a 2 door, manual, gladiator. Make it happen Jeep, please.
they have a 2 door gladiator, jut not for sale ... just a demo
With a manual pump Diesel engine that can use just about anything for combustion with no issues.
That dude on Lite Brite drove a concept 2 door gladiator concept at a Jeep event last year. According to him no one would ever buy one so Jeep won't build it. I would definitely buy one, maybe Jeep needs to listen to it's customers instead of people paid to shill products.
Off Road Jeep take this into consideration. The Colorado’s rangers frontiers and Tacoma only sell in the 2% range with anything less then 4 doors, that’s 2 doors and extended cabs. There is no ACTUAL demand for a 2 door. Yes a handful of angry keyboarders will say they want one. But no one is trying to give Jeep $30k+ and make a vehicle with less towing, no room for more then 2 passengers, and a weaker frame
Nobody wants a two-door pickup these days.
so they want like $4000 extra for a diesel that tows 1500 pounds less. Where is the logic in that?
The us taxing on diesel is just what it is man. A little insane
When a truck is produced it gets rated at the max in can safely pull, if you make the truck itself heavier then the payload has to come down so that the overall max number is the same. The new Diesel engine can handle pulling way more than the gas engine but the rig would be unsafe to operate. Anyone who pulls and trailers very much knows you don’t buy a rig that will be maxed out always. If you need to pull 6-7000 lbs consistently you’ll want a half ton truck. If you pull often you’ll want the diesel variant because it will pull easier and last longer.
40” tires moved with ease is my logic
Joe Persinger 100% agree
@@shitloveaduck What makes the 3.6 in the Colorado have a better power band than the 3.6 in the Gladiator? Does it have different designed cams or something?
Sounds like all the headaches of the diesel with non of the benefits
Comparing it to my 4.0 V6 in my Xterra, I get 265 hp and 280 torque. That's a pretty substantial difference. Also, guarantee it gets better gas mileage.
Worthless as a REAL truck so...nah
69 Bronco guy! Except that new diesels are not reliable, require more maintenance and the maintenance is more expensive. Price of fuel is also more expensive and has lesser availability than traditional gasoline. All that for worse payload and lower towing figures. You can pay more for lesser product if you like, but I don’t see any legitimate reason to pick the diesel
Oh none of the benefits, what about a much longer range than the gas version and super low end torque. Not sure its worth the extra cost but for overlanding range and low end torque are huge benefits. I have the Pentestar and love but I’d love it more with those benefits.
Sam Sullivan ok, i can see range being good for overlanding that is a use case you are right. Although im sure you could probably put a bigger fuel tank on the gas version for much cheaper
Keep the diesels coming, FCA. I'm waiting for the ECODIESEL Grand Cherokee.
Already exists. My friends GF has one
We are ditching the diesels in UK and Europe after decades.
OverlandTT is it because of emissions?
With just some basic tunes you could pump out some nice power on the 3.0l turbo diesel
Lets be honest here... how many people with gladiators (or with jeeps in general really) even tow 6k regularly?
I used to pull 6K + In my old TJ, that ol 4.0 would pull day long, but stopping with a load was another story
If i had a gladiator or a new jl I would definitely use it to launch my boat frequently so yes near the 6k mark only have to drive it half a mile at 35 mph to the launch but yes I would use it to tow often
I towed 6k with a 04 f150 and that’s a full size truck. It didn’t brake nice and wasn’t fun. That much in a half ton will be terrible.
@@number1yota 6k,I have a 3500lbs camper that I pull and is alittle sketchy at times I couldn't imagine 6,000
one reason i wont ever buy one i need something to tow my old cars. wish they would make a 1 ton covert truck of some sort.
Hope the frame doesn't bend...
Already broken from unloading off the truck, standard equipment on all diesel Gladiators
The reduced tow rating of the ecodiesel is because of airflow concerns of keeping the engine cool enough under load. No one should be regularly hauling more than 5000 lbs in vehicles this size anyway, so top tow ratings are really meaningless. Payload is a more important factor and should be of greater concern for buyers.
A loaded Rubicon Gladiator already goes $60K+ so I'm guessing the ecodiesel option will push this to $70,000.
I wish we could have diesel powertrains like in the past, just a solid powerplant without the EPA nonsense.
*I'm too excited about how this diesel will turn my 37 inch tires on the trail not so much towing* 😍
Literally the only engine we want in Australia and they said we aren't getting it. 🤣
Can't make this shit up.
Good! We don’t get any of your diesel options here
What a douchebag! It’s not Australia’s fault Toyota won’t bring diesels to N America.....🙄
I need one... first thing is first! Get rid of the emissions let that bad boy breath!!!
Cool truck. Base model is going to start for as much as a ZR2 diesel though. I’ll stick with GM.
Now I really want one
Cummins makes a 4cyl diesel crate engine that's designed 2 drop str8 in Jeeps. I watched where they swapped th 4.0 stock 6cyl for it and went on a very, extreme trail ride & it outperformed all th other Jeeps ( & some had V8 swaps). Th rest were running out of gas & overheating. If I were a hardcore off-roader that's th route I would go.
Was the diesel a 4BT?
@@chuckasarus sounds right, I know it was new in like 2017-18, newly available through Cummins
Well looks like we know in 10 years we can get those first year V6 Gladiators for cheap and swap em with a cummins turbo 4 pot ;D
4-cylinder in my pickup... I think NOT.
@@gaffle-411 Not just any four cylinder. It's a turbo diesel.
I have a 2020 Ram EcoDiesel and I love it. I average 27-28 MPG mixed but mostly city driving with lots of hills (as long as I keep it under 70 on the highway). Driving through North Carolina 2 months ago I sustained 40.4 MPG over and hour drafting off semis. I wish this has Engine Start Stop thought. I always have to turn it off in the drive-thru anyway, so they can hear me over the motor lol. I am glad I leased this one so I can get another in 3 years with some nice upgrades. Hell maybe they will have an exhaust brake and 10 speed transmission by then?
Jeep teased the 392 hemi in the Gladiator and Wrangler today
Hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷! I’m your fan from this little island in the Caribbean, I’m a former retired correctional officer and I would like to see a video that there good ones that you make, because i do not miss any that is the Jeep Gladiator diesel vs Chevy ZR2 diesel in all aspects from climbing rocks, towing etc thank you and Feliz Navidad 🎄
We wAnt A HEMI AND DANA 60s
Not going to happen. You want a V8 buy a RAM.
@@phprofYT your way off topic !
focus !
Have to buy a 3/4 ton gas Ram for that.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 why not? Petite are doing Hellcat swaps already.
I totally agree. I'd rather just have a Hemi. It's not like they aren't already producing them anyway. Hell pale are doing Hellcat swaps
Are you guys going to do a side by side comparison? How early are you guys usually able to get your hands on one?
Andre as for me I consider the Gladiator a 3/8 ton truck with a mini mom bed. It's a recreational truck but a very good one at that. I've been waiting on the diesel not because I want it to tow, I have a F-350 diesel for that.
Not sure of long term reliability with this diesel power train but if it works out it will be the best engine ever offered in a jeep if you use the jeep as a jeep and not your primary transportation.
I wonder if they beefed up the frame since people have been bending them and seeing how a diesel engine is heavier?
You shouldnt be able to bend them. Thats insane.
I wish they’d put this engine in the other lineups. For example, charger, caravan, and keep putting it in the grand Cherokee.
Imagine the fuel mileage in car platform like a charger!! 30mpg city/40mpg hwy????
Or if they bring back the Dakota????
yeah id be surprised if it was anything below that. our e220 gets up to 60mpg highway when we baby it
Most of those vehicles you listed already have a diesel option. Just not available in America
I wonder if they reconfigured the frame for this engines extra weight?? I was under the impression that the Mojave has a ruggedized frame but is only available with the gas engine.
Go take that diesel for a ride in the RAM its a nice engine gents. I believe it will be a good buy.
AWESOME i need really the diesel one😊
So what’s it sound like straight piped and with the def delete
Love diesel POWEEEER! However the emissions control systems, mainly the EGR system is a killer! Now we have two of these sandwiched on top of this 3rd GEN ecodiesel. Not good! I had a 16' ram 1500 ecodiesel myself. Great power plant, poor emissions systems. The recall flash also didnt help. I eventually used the positive equity I had on the truck, got myself a nice used ford f350 4x4 7.3 !!!
I wouldn't want to tow 6,000 lbs. with that frame.
I'm surprised at the tow numbers. Until the mid to late 2000's, you had to get a big block gas to get the max tow numbers.
What about taking a look at the EU JK Diesel Models with a 2.8l 4 Cylinder and a 5 Speed Automatic or a 6 Speed Stick Shiftier.
I Denmark it cost 140$🥴www.jeep.dk/wrangler-jl. It’s a 2,2 diesel and a 2,0 gas. It’s probably the same I all Europe
Really wish they were coming out with a manual of the diesel. it would go well with my truck driver sensibilities
I am ordering mine on Friday
U should buy a real truck or a real Jeep not this shit
It's about time... Well we can actually see that coming.
The Gladiator just got released here in the Philippines costing more than a Ford Expedition standard wheelbase... I wonder why?
Niche market truck
TFL there’s a post on jeeps Instagram with a Jeep Wrangler having a 392 marked on the hood. Their caption says stay tuned!!!
More torque to bend the frame faster. Good job jeep
Yes Yes YES!!!
Reason for the low pay low and towing is because the thinking behind it is more economy/ better MPG over capacity. People who like diesel engines is a unique market, we are people who want better MPG but want to still enjoy the utility of the vehicle.
Will it have the option to be reliable?
I'd like to see a before and after (Def delete ,auto start stop,exhaust)
Will the frame still bend?
More interested in the Jeep Wrangler 392 teaser photo....I miss my 6.4L Grand Cherokee. Like my new Gladiator but it needs some balls... I forsee a trade in coming in the next few yrs if they release a 6.4L version.
I'm waiting for an actual test of the towing mpg with this diesel, I watched your test with the gas engine and the results were terrible! Hoping for better with this.
You guys work very hard at informing us about the capabilities of trucks and SUV's, you informed us a year or so ago about how fca had "redesigned " the eco diesel from a European design to a north American design, but in my opinion details were very limited. I want to know what phisical changes were made to the design. Only that will reveal if the design changes are real or just superficial. I would truly appreciate a look at the changes that were made.
The order sheets and pricing has been out on the Gladiator Forum for a week.
Diesel ❤
The Brakes and Chassis/Suspension are the primary limitations of any vehicle with the power plant being the third factor the determines the ultimate tow limit of any vehicle. Also, I drove an Avis Rental version of the Gas Gladiator out of Newark NJ back in March.. The only thing I liked was its slow - off pavement capability. Other than that, there are way better vehicles out there from GM, Nissan, Toyota and Ford for everyday use and comfort.
Was hoping for slightly higher towing numbers. I think the Ike Gauntlet run will be faster and much quieter.
6k towing max? The Colorado 2.8L tows more than that!!
Jeep never should have gotten rid of the 4.0L straight 6.
It could have provided design basis for a lovely I-6 turbodiesel, being all cast iron. Dont you think so? I was a Jeep tech throughout many of the 4.0 years, and still think it may be the best domestic gas I-6 ever produced.
It's a jeep why we talking about towing
Because FCA decides to advertise the towing numbers. If the towing doesn't matter, then they wouldn't have even told TFL about the rating.
Well, I like the versatility of not having to own a jeep (my idea of a convertible) and a pickup. I tow a load of around 6500-7000 pounds about every other weekend. It would be nice to have one vehicle that does it all and has a warranty.
Because I want to tow my Travel Trailer with it!!! 😁
Because they don't want to talk about reliability lol.
People own boats bro
How does it handle full DPF if you are over landing for multiple days ?
What's the over/under for average repair costs per year on this engine?
FCA boss asking engineer "How can we drive the Gladiator price to $70 grand ?" Engineer "We could put our overpriced junk diesel in it ! "
🤣 🤣 👌👌👍
Ooh, that auto start stop is a major deal breaker for me. After having driven a vehicle daily with one, it's the one feature on modern cars I hate the most.
I’m particularly worried about what start/stopping a hot turbo will do. Historically, that has never been a good thing.
Which Gladiator would be better towing a 4000 lbs camping trailer over a steep grade mountain? Looking forward to the test, thinking diesel will win.
Currently towing 2500 lbs with a 2016 JKU or the 2018 Grand Cherokee overland depending on the trip. The Cherokee does better. JKU will heat up on a climb, the Cherokee is more stable in temperature.
My future camper dry weight will be around 3000 lbs.
wonder if they fixed the bent frame issues towing offroad trailers
You missed that it is not available on the Gladiator Mojave. Cost wise it is the same as the Wrangler for the up charge on it.
Now for the 2 door and ill buy one.
I have a 20 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel and no auto start. Oh well. I didn’t think the system was worth it on my Hemi anyways.
I have a 2020 RAM ecodiesel 1500. i love my motor, Is the one in the gladiator different?
They V6 Diesel their putting in the jeeps are a fiat made engine, I don’t know about the V6 diesel in the rams
For those that just can't understand the "only 6k tow capacity" of a diesel gladiator, consider also the cooling issue. Diesel's generate a lot more heat than the v6 3.6L penastar. The inter-cooler alone pumps out enough heat to boil your biscuits when the turbo is fully spooled up. The first round of RAM's (2014-2019) with the EcoDiesel had significant limitations pulling with the diesel given the heat issue. The new EcoDiesel has an improved cooling setup so they appear to be better.
Second, if you are pulling 6k behind a mid-size truck, please let me know where you are at. I'd like to avoid those roads. 6k is a lot of weight for a truck with this wheel base in length and width. 6k is plenty for a 1/2 ton truck so these 3/8 ton penny poppers just need to be put in perspective.
Unfortunately you can't fix stupid.
Wonder if the lower towing numbers are because the gladiator has frame bending issues and the Diesel engine is much heavier and the whole truck isn’t designed for that
Lower payload and towing probably caused by higher weight of the diesel over the Pentastar
Compare payload ratings of heavy duty ram trucks. The 6.4 Hemi trucks have ~800 pounds more payload at same maximum gross weight than the 6.7 cummins equipped ones. 6.4 Hemi weights 400 pounds and the cummins 1050 plus the gearbox is also heavier.
I wanna see a drag race between Gladiator and Ram Rebel both with ecodiesel
When are we going to see an Ike test with the diesel gladiator. For Pete’s sake it’s been over a year!!! I would really love to see it. Im hoping within the next six months to a year I will be ordering one and I’m counting on you guys to give me the confidence I need that the diesel gladiator will pull my 6000 pound camper trailer. I live in California, i like to travel into the Tahoe national Forest area and there’s some big long hills. The Ike will give me a really good reference for my local Hills.
Still hemi is the minimum engine should be used instead of pintastar or V6 diesel
Um what happened? Did the Ram 6.4 Hemi kill the IKE ? How’d it do? How’s the MPG’s loaded and empty?
What about the Mojave no diesel will be released?
Jeep Gladiator Diesel...used to trailer a tow truck for when you get stuck!😚
For those that don't understand why the radios are the same in the diesel they are very different if you go with the manuals.
Manual transmissions plus your torque by 5. Don't believe me
well
you're smarter mechanic than me
Whats up with Ford and Ram/FCA having the same liters on their diesels? Example: Powerstroke 6.7, Cummins 6.7/ Powerstroke 3.0, Ecodiesel 3.0
Was hoping to get a little more towing, not to max out the tow limit but to have extra capacity. Example: tow rating of 7,500 pound would give you a comfortable tow of a 6,000 pound trailer. Now the new Bronco towing? And go!
Pulling 7500lbs with a 1/4T truck is reserved for special Olympics contestants
Tow rating at 8:10
Thank you
Im just waiting to see all the bent frames.
Also forgot to say that 10k between def fill-ups is bull. It's about 5k and I am not trailering or going off road in my 2020 Ram EcoDiesel which has the same / or about the same size def tank
Probably rather have the 392 that is supposedly coming...
I just have one question while the lead in ads play. What is the payload on the Diesel Gladiator Rubicon?
Not sure exactly but the GVWR is 6500lbs
1180 lbs.
@@terrencejones9817 I wouldn't be surprised. I expect you did some comparisons and math to come to that number.
@@The_Opinion_of_Matt Tim Esterdhal just had a RAM ecodiesel loaded with every option and air suspension. It brought the payload down to just 1000lbs. That eco diesel set up is heavy.
The lower towing weight is confusing. Most German cars with diesels can tow more than their petrol/gas models. The GLS400d and GLE400d has Mercedes inline 3 litre 6 cylinder turbo diesel with 335hp and 520 foot pounds of torque. They can tow 7700 pounds. Very strange this thing from Jeep.
On another note, we don't get Ram in my country and I hate trucks but man I would take a RAM1500 with a diesel anyday. What a nice truck.
6000lbs tow rating is less than the rating on my Discovery TD5 (7700lbs) 😱😬🏴
So all of the diesel issues with none of the benefits... Yeah sounds real awesome there guys.
I wonder why they went with the V6 diesel over releasing a V8 option considering the SRT lineup
Baby Truck vs. Big Rig, just not needed for this light weight.
I wonder how many recalls there will be on this one.