The thing is you don't know the details. The delete is basically the same hp...there's other reasons like EGR off and DEF off and w*rran*y that you don't want to delete. I got the kit...gonna wait until 1OOk to delete. You don't know how bad these are stock and how good they are tuned with PCM and Trans tune...even with just a tune and no delete. The delete is just for reliability and even more early torque...same hp almost. The tune is so bad stock...it's literally dangerous.
The V8 is worse in torque curve and almost unusable offroad without a huge gas tank reserve...where as with a diesel you can carry 10 gallons in Jerry cans and get huge range reserve
I have a 2021 Wrangler Sport EcoDiesel with 53,000 miles on it. I don't do the things that you do but I love it. I am averaging 22 mpg a year on highway and off road with some town driving . I have 33 inch tires on it with a 2 1/2 inch lift. It is my only vehicle but I am retired and don't drive it to work daily. I drive it to town (about 10 miles) once or twice a week, in the desert for fun, and across country to visit family, friends and just to tour. I have de-rated once when it was near 100° F while climbing a 7% long grade in the mountains of Arizona. Other than that it has run perfectly. I love the power it has. I climb steep grades without slowing down (except the one time it de-rated). The torque curve is low rpms so I can crawl up steep grades off road without hardly spinning a tire. I am going to keep mine forever which for me is not as long as you since I am probably old enough to be your Dad. I subscribed a long time ago and love your adventures. Good luck on 25,000 but think higher. You can do it if half of the viewers would just click the subscribe button.
Thank you very much for the comment! Glad you're loving your rig. I truly hope it continues being great to you and taking you on your adventures. Wish you nothing but the very best my friend.
You have one of my favorite off road channels. I was really turned off by a couple of the other channels who have spent many hundreds of thousands of dollars on Jeeps and equipment. Frankly driving a three hundred thousand dollar, Hellcat powered Jeep with all the best equipment is not a challenge for anyone and in my opinion doesn't represent the experience the majority of people have. However I feel your channel really captures a realistic experience that the majority of people could actually do. Great channel and I hope it continues to grow.
I'm lucky enough to wheel with some guys with their v8 swaps. It definitely has its place. These gladiators only come in the ecodiesel, or the 3.6.... 40s and tons and the 3.6 don't get along very well. My build works for me. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what people wheel as long as they get out there. I think it's cool that they actually scratch their 300k builds. I hope you can see past the builds and see the video outside of that. Also I really appreciate your comment. I'll also keep it mind as I continue this TH-cam journey. Cheers! And thank you.
👍on the big 10.1 k ! Gotta say, what I like about your Jeep is the “modest” build look of it. No big tire poke going on, and you do go, as much as I can tell, everywhere the big$ builds go. You have fun, you don’t push the limits for “views”, and you’re honest on your likes and dislikes. Here’s to much more fun in 2024 ! 🍁🤙
Thank you very much buddy. I'm about to have a little more tire poke! Lol I addressed it in this video. The rubicon have wider axles, plus the lift, the center of gravity is off on my rig. Feels very tippy. Apparently widening the stance just an inch makes a big difference. Going to find out lol. The beauty about wheeling is everyone has their own flair. I love the diesel. 🤙
I think the weight of my old jeep? Or maybe they were already at 50 percent when I got them... Others have said great things about them as well... Cheers Raymond!
I got the JLURD. Did Banks Derringer and Pedal Monster. I've just decided to say F the warranty and am full on deleting it. I figure if i wait until the warranty is up at 100k the damage will already be done. Good luck man I'm enjoying your channel!
@@UnwindingRoads surgery for suspension, axles etc starts in june. Ill get an instagram prepped to show the process soon. Whats yours ill tag you on there
Nitto trail grapplers nice, but super heavy. Terrible in cold, while in Utah winter had to get 2nd set winter tires. They turn to hockey pucks in the cold......zero traction.
What a difference hey?? Just wait until EOC touches it. It's a completely different animal. More power and better fuel economy makes no sense! lol Cheers!
@@UnwindingRoads Gas JLUR had 5.13 and were just ok with heavy 38" Mikey's and heavy load. This JTRD, stock gears, same 38", full bed keeping 8th gear on hwys like its nothing. This thing is to keep forewer! Lol
When you do an oil change, pull the pan. It’s probably slugged up also, along with the pick up tube. Gently clean up the pick up line as much as you cans and then hit it with brake clean. Clean out the pan and fill it. Do this every other change.
Running Green Diesel tune. No issues. Supposedly that turns the EGR down to a low pressure mode without actually disabling it. Don't know. I have not had any issues. These run well when you run them regularly. Short city commutes are hard on this engine and emissions system. If you don't drive much, or far, this isn't the right powertrain for you. A lot of guys were looking at these purely for the specs compared to the 3.6. The weekend warriors are the guys who have issues.
A ton of hard work and a bunch of luck lol. Im lucky because I have great mentors. Takes me about 40 hours to edit a video. Not including the time shooting the video. As your channel builds, companies will reach out of what you're doing fits their needs. That's my advice. Just take it with a grain of salt I'm still very small time. 🙏
Mine is not deleted. That would be illegal. But if someone were to do that, it would be about 21mpg in town and 26mpg on the hwy. On 38s with 4:56 gears.
Hello, I have a 2022 Gladiator ecodiesel Rubicon and I would like to know what exactly I have to buy to eliminate the DEF system. I went to the EOC page but I have doubts. Thanks Greetings from Puerto Rico
@@kennethmalave6325 hello. Congrats on your ecodiesel! Best thing to do is email Sales@ecodieselownerscanada.com they will provide you with correct information. As far as I know you can get rid of the need for def with software only. No need to take parts off or put parts on. Definitely email them to get your questions answered before ordering anything off the website if you are not sure. I am happy to answer questions about my setup but I don't want to give incorrect information about what EOC offers.... Hope this helps.
Bast thing to do is email Sales@ecodieselownerscanada.com They know better than I do what they put in and why lol you'll love it. Just know it's about 2 month wait time currently.
Bingo, people don't understand the meat of the torque curve hits between 3000 to 4000 rpm so you should be climbing in that range keep egt's in check and peak efficiencies. As far as the EGR, my cummings has been absolutely clean at 70K, use the proper oils and better quality fuel and you won't have the problem. I updated the intake system on my Jeep ecodiesel to improve efficiency.
My first car was a 1968 VW Beetle. I tuned it every few thousand miles. New Plugs, points and condenser. Even a Rotor and Distributor Cap every once and a while. Back when tuning was Legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted an ecodiesel gladiator but was scared and went with a Ram 2500 with the 6.4. I love my diesel trucks but I can't stand what all these EPA regulations have done to ruin them.
Teddy, you recommend bypassing or removing the EGR right away. Does that void the warranty? But they are so problematic because more damage than leaving it on till warranty is up. What kind of warranty comes on the eco-diesel? i’m 64 and I am looking for my last vehicle so I think. My last vehicle might be a hearse. Lol.. I really enjoyed your eco-diesel review and would like to hear of logical improvements to extend this diesels life. If my Cummins can get 3/4 million k’s I want this one to go a long distance too.
The best thing I can do is recommend reaching out to ecodiesel owners canada. I know shutting off the EGR as close to 0 klms as possible is important. I just made a post about this yesterday. They can definitely help you out more than I can.......
My friend I hope you still check this video because its really helpful! For the CTS3 was it just plug and play / and can monitor everything? Were there any issues?
@@jasonirvin6782 just plug and play. Then setup how you want it to look and what you want to monitor. Check out the ibanks. That one will also tell you transmission temp which is important. For some reason the cts3 does not.
@@UnwindingRoads I really like the look of the cts3 tho! Also the trans temps is already on the dash. Do you also have a tazer? If so were there any incompatibility with that? Sorry engineer brain here trying to get all the info I can before pulling the trigger on the purchase ! Thanks in advance
@@jasonirvin6782 yes I also run the tazer. No interference. The tazer does not plug into the obd port. The edge does. No need to apologize! Happy to help!
Green diesel WAS a great option. Their tune is still ok. Ecodiesel owners canada is getting more out of their tunes, because they don't have restrictions...
I did! Happened right away. Same time as lockers. 4.56 gears. With 38s I think I should have gone 4.88 but can't confirm yet. A friend of mine is getting his done this week so I'll see
@UnwindingRoads these engines do run on the hotter side. I'm seeing close to 1200 driving in the mountains of West Virginia. I believe our egt sensor #1 is in the manifold so still safe at that temp. Love getting 26 mpg on 37's
@@brian3.2 Hahaha 26 mpg on 37s. How many people don't believe you? I regularly have people call bs when I tell them. They have to be with me to witness it to see. On a recent trip I got better mpg towing my trailer than a 4xe. Both of us were on 38s. The 4xe is still faster though.
Yes. Just email once. Put Unwinding Roads sent you in the subject. Takes about a week. If you email. Again it goes back in queue. I know a phone call is much easier but that's how they do it. Much easier to track what was said to who so I get it.
Ecodiesel is awesome Only problem is the beautiful def crap killing the engine and killing the trees too with the big lies of government of global warming bull sh thx for the video blessing bro
I think all vehicles lose. I bought the rig for 64 cad. And put another 20 into it. I could probably get around 60 for it now. But I didn't get it to sell that would be very stupid. Tacomas hold their value a bit more but they just aren't as capable off road. Which is what I do. So I'd be losing right off the lot 😂
I'd rather not say exactly what is done. All I can say is I'm extremely happy with the results. Absolutely zero issues, the power gain is wild, and the fuel economy (which I forgot to talk about) is even more impressive! If you email them, they might tell you what I've done exactly. Cheers!
What is that a secret if it is a stage 1 or 2? Honestly based of your video title. I expected you to talk much more about the tune and the related modications. Anyway, Are you running their "downpipe" only option ( meaning stock system after were the DPF ended? ) Closed EGR through the tune I am assuming. Has the map sensor stayed clean since you got it tuned? Thanks
@@earlhamil731 absolutely. The plan is to go 38s and that will get me very close to stock. But honestly I didn't notice much difference. It was still seeing 8th gear on the hwy with stock gears
@@chrisbaeppler3873 for what I was after there really isn't anyone else that does it like EOC. Absolutely no regrets. Best thing to do is jump on the forums and FB pages and see how many happy EOC customers there are VS other tunes. It will paint a very clear picture that EOC is by far the best option.
@@chrisbaeppler3873 the owner is a friend of mine. But I have no pull there whatsoever. Even when I bring something up he says "email me". That's just how he does business. Once you email him wait about 2 weeks for a reply. It's annoying I know.
I filmed all that and I somehow didn't put it in the video. So here it goes: I'm getting around 22 to 40mpg. 40mpg is flat going 80 kph (50 mph flat) so that's the best I'll see. I'm literally getting twice the fuel economy of my 3.6. Stock to stock I think they're close. But once loaded, it's not even close. Hope this helps.
the TFL guys I believe tested one that had 4" lift and 37s, no regear that I saw and were getting 23MG on highway. its a baby diesel. but the wrangler is much lighter than a fat ass 3/4 ton truck
@@UnwindingRoads Nice! I wish I could do that as well. I have adaptive cruise so I don't have the option. What tune do you run when all your gear is loaded up? Currently I have the hot tune and I am a little worried.
Great vid! Nitto ridge grapplers look awesome, but they're shit. I have a set on my cummins right now. Had duratracs before. MUCH better, although louder. Question, why didn't you go Rubicon?
I'm absolutely loving my current trail grapplers! I should have gone rubicon. My theory was I would save money because the suspension was going in the trash anyway. I was wrong. Rubicon have an inch and a half wider axles, higher fenders, the 4:1 transfer case and metal bumpers. I should have just gone rubicon.
That’s an excellent tune for excellent wear metals in the oil lol. The fuel dilution from it from the oil samples posted were atrocious. Three times the metals in the oil from these tunes. The only one that doesn’t do it is the banks derringer.
I would just say overall tune is flawed. Very very difficult for them to tune at the OEM level. The equipment and resources needed and they are not capable. Do oil lab work at least 5 times to see a trend. I'm undeleted with and have no issue and will not have issue because a lot of preventative things Im doing. If deleted I would only mod the ECU for that only and run a Derringer. Also I prefer the idash with the pod that goes into the grab handle over your dash screen but that is personal choice. The way Banks does tuning is from an OEM level. NONE of the tuners will ever achieve that no matter what they do unless they put many millions in R&D and equipment. @@Suomyice
@@Good-luck-Jonathan not true at all. The derranger is a fool device. This is a proper tune. With lots of testing. Been on the market with continuous testing for almost 10 years with 1000s of vehicles done and I haven't seen or heard of any complaints other than what was mentioned. If you do a ton of hwy driving only and very little idling you'll probably be ok. Also if you're testing your oil you'll know. You definitely seem like you know what you're talking about. Oem is never the best because of all the restrictions put on them.
How $$$ to do what you had done - including the exhaust pipe? $3K - $5K - $10K? Before we flood his phone/email with questions it would be nice to have an idea of the cost, because the trade off is you will be losing your manufacturer 10 year powertrain warranty.
You can do things without losing your warranty, but they'll explain better. Just to put things into perspective, my ram ecodiesel had a leaky EGR at 65k klms. I had EOC fix the problem, and I sold it at 187k absolutely problem free.... You're looking about 3500 for full setup. But make sure you mention the channel it might help... It might not... I don't know lol
Really interesting video. This is not the first video I have found discussing the concern of sludge build up on this engine. I, like you want to keep my truck long term. I have a 2022 Ram EcoDiesel. From the US. Does EcoDiesel Canada work on US vehicles?
Hey man I’m 22 with a 2020 ecoDiesel wrangler and it my 3rd year with it and I’m really interested in the tune and deletes. I live in Colorado with the altitude I wouldn’t know if this would be good but for the long run I wanna do your set up any tips?!
We live in British Columbia so we actually have very similar mountain ranges. This is my second ecodiesel tuned by them, with the first having zero issues for 65k miles. I sold it problem free at that point. I can only speak from my personal experience. Best thing to do is email them and see what would be best for you. Cheers!
@@mariolapp1189 absolutely 0 percent chance this is true lol double check the company. And if it is eoc performance please email me your email and I will personally look into this. I'm willing to put everything on the line and say this is not true. There are fake companies that use similar names that do rip people off so you have to be careful.
I'll reply without making fun of you. In many places such as where I am. Certain tunes are illegal. There's a grey area. And some tunes are illegal at all. If you are truly interested in what tune I have and want to get it for your rig you can contact ecodiesel owners canada.
So you bought a brand new jeep and before 24hrs passed you completely took a shit on your warranty. So anything goes wrong with your with your transmission or engine they can say FU
Yes exactly. I don't recommend doing what I did for people that are nervous about these sorts of things. I'm a different situation than most. If this motor blows even with the mods I'll do a v8 swap or duramax. I do however highly recommend shutting off the EGR. The longer you wait the more soot builds up leaving you with a much higher risk of problems even after warranty. What I did is for reliability and longevity, not warranty.
So you tuned it without deleting it... what a waste of money. And that was a pathetic takeoff lol
I know right. Lol 🤦so embarrassing................
The thing is you don't know the details. The delete is basically the same hp...there's other reasons like EGR off and DEF off and w*rran*y that you don't want to delete. I got the kit...gonna wait until 1OOk to delete. You don't know how bad these are stock and how good they are tuned with PCM and Trans tune...even with just a tune and no delete. The delete is just for reliability and even more early torque...same hp almost. The tune is so bad stock...it's literally dangerous.
The V8 is worse in torque curve and almost unusable offroad without a huge gas tank reserve...where as with a diesel you can carry 10 gallons in Jerry cans and get huge range reserve
I have a 2021 Wrangler Sport EcoDiesel with 53,000 miles on it. I don't do the things that you do but I love it. I am averaging 22 mpg a year on highway and off road with some town driving . I have 33 inch tires on it with a 2 1/2 inch lift. It is my only vehicle but I am retired and don't drive it to work daily. I drive it to town (about 10 miles) once or twice a week, in the desert for fun, and across country to visit family, friends and just to tour. I have de-rated once when it was near 100° F while climbing a 7% long grade in the mountains of Arizona. Other than that it has run perfectly. I love the power it has. I climb steep grades without slowing down (except the one time it de-rated). The torque curve is low rpms so I can crawl up steep grades off road without hardly spinning a tire. I am going to keep mine forever which for me is not as long as you since I am probably old enough to be your Dad. I subscribed a long time ago and love your adventures. Good luck on 25,000 but think higher. You can do it if half of the viewers would just click the subscribe button.
Thank you very much for the comment! Glad you're loving your rig. I truly hope it continues being great to you and taking you on your adventures. Wish you nothing but the very best my friend.
You have one of my favorite off road channels. I was really turned off by a couple of the other channels who have spent many hundreds of thousands of dollars on Jeeps and equipment. Frankly driving a three hundred thousand dollar, Hellcat powered Jeep with all the best equipment is not a challenge for anyone and in my opinion doesn't represent the experience the majority of people have. However I feel your channel really captures a realistic experience that the majority of people could actually do. Great channel and I hope it continues to grow.
I'm lucky enough to wheel with some guys with their v8 swaps. It definitely has its place. These gladiators only come in the ecodiesel, or the 3.6.... 40s and tons and the 3.6 don't get along very well. My build works for me. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what people wheel as long as they get out there. I think it's cool that they actually scratch their 300k builds. I hope you can see past the builds and see the video outside of that. Also I really appreciate your comment. I'll also keep it mind as I continue this TH-cam journey. Cheers! And thank you.
Nasty built jeeps or any toy is like crack it’s hard to say no.
I highly recommend picking up a Hot Heads headliner kit. Makes the cab comfy, quieter and looks great for $500 and an hour or two to install.
Excellent recommendation. I'll check it out. Cheers!
👍on the big 10.1 k ! Gotta say, what I like about your Jeep is the “modest” build look of it. No big tire poke going on, and you do go, as much as I can tell, everywhere the big$ builds go. You have fun, you don’t push the limits for “views”, and you’re honest on your likes and dislikes. Here’s to much more fun in 2024 ! 🍁🤙
Thank you very much buddy. I'm about to have a little more tire poke! Lol I addressed it in this video. The rubicon have wider axles, plus the lift, the center of gravity is off on my rig. Feels very tippy. Apparently widening the stance just an inch makes a big difference. Going to find out lol. The beauty about wheeling is everyone has their own flair. I love the diesel. 🤙
I also had issues with the oracle tail lights. When I took them off, they were rusted out. The backup lights for the bumper are still working well.
The bumper lights look pretty cool!
Been waiting for a video like this on the ecodiesel! Great video!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
14:00 I have the Trail Grapplers on my truck 285/70/17 and I'm happy. Another terrific video, Teddy!
I think the weight of my old jeep? Or maybe they were already at 50 percent when I got them... Others have said great things about them as well... Cheers Raymond!
Congrats on 10K Teddi!! I am gonna trade in for a Eco Diesel this summer! You got me sold (and a few of my friends with eco-diesels!)
You won't regret it!!! Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Your new hoodie design looks so sophisticated!
Pretty fancy stuff!!
I got the JLURD. Did Banks Derringer and Pedal Monster. I've just decided to say F the warranty and am full on deleting it. I figure if i wait until the warranty is up at 100k the damage will already be done. Good luck man I'm enjoying your channel!
Best decision you'll ever make. I've posted pictures of intakes at 100k and it's scary
Congrats on 10k. I have Trail Grapplers on my Gladiator, best set of tires I have ever used.
That's great to know! Thank you Johnny!!!
Gives me confidence is doing the weight loss tune on my JT. I need the extra power for 42s
Tune and regear! 42s wow!!! Do you have Instagram I want to see this!
@@UnwindingRoads surgery for suspension, axles etc starts in june. Ill get an instagram prepped to show the process soon. Whats yours ill tag you on there
@@mattbrew11 please do I really want to see this incredible build come to life. @Unwinding_roads
@@UnwindingRoads good chatting with you brotha 🍻
@@mattbrew11 you as well!
Nitto trail grapplers nice, but super heavy. Terrible in cold, while in Utah winter had to get 2nd set winter tires. They turn to hockey pucks in the cold......zero traction.
That's very interesting. What did you get for winter?
Good video Teddy, thanks for review. Just traded my 3.6 for a brand new 2023 JTRD. LOVE this thing! Going to visit EOC very soon.
What a difference hey?? Just wait until EOC touches it. It's a completely different animal. More power and better fuel economy makes no sense! lol Cheers!
@@UnwindingRoads Gas JLUR had 5.13 and were just ok with heavy 38" Mikey's and heavy load. This JTRD, stock gears, same 38", full bed keeping 8th gear on hwys like its nothing. This thing is to keep forewer! Lol
@@alexkaa6351 it's going to be very difficult to beat this platform.....
How far did you drive to the shop and can I go with my truck I live in Nevada
You can get everything sent to you. I'm only about 25 minutes from the shop in BC Canada
@@UnwindingRoads Will I need to dyno it?
@@EricRemy no you won't.
When you do an oil change, pull the pan. It’s probably slugged up also, along with the pick up tube. Gently clean up the pick up line as much as you cans and then hit it with brake clean. Clean out the pan and fill it. Do this every other change.
Love my Kraken Air inflation system. highly recommend the pressure control unit upgrade
Ya that looks so fancy lol
Congratz on 10k!!!!!!
Thank you very much my friend!!
ecodiesel is on my wish list but its not in the budget haha. Grats on the 10k my dude
Thank you my friend!!! I'm really curious to see what happens with their pricing in the near future. Now that they are discontinued
Running Green Diesel tune. No issues. Supposedly that turns the EGR down to a low pressure mode without actually disabling it. Don't know. I have not had any issues. These run well when you run them regularly. Short city commutes are hard on this engine and emissions system. If you don't drive much, or far, this isn't the right powertrain for you. A lot of guys were looking at these purely for the specs compared to the 3.6. The weekend warriors are the guys who have issues.
Absolutely!
Needs more stacks
😂😂 I need some...... Can't be a big rig without stacks. Imagine stacks on tracks woahhhhh
Stacks on the rack, on tracks
@@Casey250 😂
The truck is looking great Teddy! When my warranty is up on my ED it's getting tuned...
I'd at least shut off the EGR and save your motor!! The sooner the better....
How do I go about getting people to sponsor me? I desperately need a rooftop tent and new headlights but I definitely need a tent.
A ton of hard work and a bunch of luck lol. Im lucky because I have great mentors. Takes me about 40 hours to edit a video. Not including the time shooting the video. As your channel builds, companies will reach out of what you're doing fits their needs. That's my advice. Just take it with a grain of salt I'm still very small time. 🙏
What are your mpg’s after you deleted it
Mine is not deleted. That would be illegal. But if someone were to do that, it would be about 21mpg in town and 26mpg on the hwy. On 38s with 4:56 gears.
Hello, I have a 2022 Gladiator ecodiesel Rubicon and I would like to know what exactly I have to buy to eliminate the DEF system. I went to the EOC page but I have doubts.
Thanks
Greetings from Puerto Rico
@@kennethmalave6325 hello. Congrats on your ecodiesel! Best thing to do is email Sales@ecodieselownerscanada.com they will provide you with correct information. As far as I know you can get rid of the need for def with software only. No need to take parts off or put parts on. Definitely email them to get your questions answered before ordering anything off the website if you are not sure. I am happy to answer questions about my setup but I don't want to give incorrect information about what EOC offers.... Hope this helps.
Im in the process of tuning my 3.0 Jeep and contacted EOC, but wanted to know what tune you went with and what does it do to DPF.
Bast thing to do is email Sales@ecodieselownerscanada.com
They know better than I do what they put in and why lol you'll love it. Just know it's about 2 month wait time currently.
Bingo, people don't understand the meat of the torque curve hits between 3000 to 4000 rpm so you should be climbing in that range keep egt's in check and peak efficiencies. As far as the EGR, my cummings has been absolutely clean at 70K, use the proper oils and better quality fuel and you won't have the problem. I updated the intake system on my Jeep ecodiesel to improve efficiency.
Bingo Bango!! What did you do to the intake?
@@UnwindingRoads K&N intake and 3' AFE intercooler tubes
My first car was a 1968 VW Beetle. I tuned it every few thousand miles.
New Plugs, points and condenser. Even a Rotor and Distributor Cap every once and a while.
Back when tuning was Legal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those were the days!
I wanted an ecodiesel gladiator but was scared and went with a Ram 2500 with the 6.4. I love my diesel trucks but I can't stand what all these EPA regulations have done to ruin them.
@@NoLimitsCommemorativ same.... Congratulations on your ram! At least you got a real truck!!
Teddy, you recommend bypassing or removing the EGR right away. Does that void the warranty? But they are so problematic because more damage than leaving it on till warranty is up. What kind of warranty comes on the eco-diesel? i’m 64 and I am looking for my last vehicle so I think. My last vehicle might be a hearse. Lol.. I really enjoyed your eco-diesel review and would like to hear of logical improvements to extend this diesels life. If my Cummins can get 3/4 million k’s I want this one to go a long distance too.
The best thing I can do is recommend reaching out to ecodiesel owners canada. I know shutting off the EGR as close to 0 klms as possible is important. I just made a post about this yesterday. They can definitely help you out more than I can.......
My friend I hope you still check this video because its really helpful! For the CTS3 was it just plug and play / and can monitor everything? Were there any issues?
@@jasonirvin6782 just plug and play. Then setup how you want it to look and what you want to monitor. Check out the ibanks. That one will also tell you transmission temp which is important. For some reason the cts3 does not.
@@UnwindingRoads I really like the look of the cts3 tho! Also the trans temps is already on the dash. Do you also have a tazer? If so were there any incompatibility with that? Sorry engineer brain here trying to get all the info I can before pulling the trigger on the purchase ! Thanks in advance
@@jasonirvin6782 yes I also run the tazer. No interference. The tazer does not plug into the obd port. The edge does. No need to apologize! Happy to help!
@@UnwindingRoadsI ordered it ALL! Lol! Can’t wait for it all to get here thank you for the support!
Added to that…. you are way more responsive than EOC, however I went with them just because of this video!
Great video. I have a 22 JLURD. Do you know the difference between your tune and the Green Diesel Engineering?
Green diesel WAS a great option. Their tune is still ok. Ecodiesel owners canada is getting more out of their tunes, because they don't have restrictions...
Did you regear? I missed that in the video if you did
I did! Happened right away. Same time as lockers. 4.56 gears. With 38s I think I should have gone 4.88 but can't confirm yet. A friend of mine is getting his done this week so I'll see
How does your EGT look after tuning?
@@brian3.2 with the 37s they stayed low. Now that I have 38s I'm regularly around 1000f
@UnwindingRoads these engines do run on the hotter side. I'm seeing close to 1200 driving in the mountains of West Virginia. I believe our egt sensor #1 is in the manifold so still safe at that temp. Love getting 26 mpg on 37's
@@brian3.2 Hahaha 26 mpg on 37s. How many people don't believe you? I regularly have people call bs when I tell them. They have to be with me to witness it to see. On a recent trip I got better mpg towing my trailer than a 4xe. Both of us were on 38s. The 4xe is still faster though.
What's is that antenna? Gmrs?
Yes it is
@@UnwindingRoads link to antenna??
Is EOD still around? Called and emailed multiple times, no dice after weeks.
Yes. Just email once. Put Unwinding Roads sent you in the subject. Takes about a week. If you email. Again it goes back in queue. I know a phone call is much easier but that's how they do it. Much easier to track what was said to who so I get it.
Ecodiesel is awesome Only problem is the beautiful def crap killing the engine and killing the trees too with the big lies of government of global warming bull sh thx for the video blessing bro
I was wondering How much have you lost in depreciation on your vehicle?
I think all vehicles lose. I bought the rig for 64 cad. And put another 20 into it. I could probably get around 60 for it now. But I didn't get it to sell that would be very stupid. Tacomas hold their value a bit more but they just aren't as capable off road. Which is what I do. So I'd be losing right off the lot 😂
How much (roughly) is it to have it done with EOC?
Very rough estimate is about 3k Canadian...
Is this the EOC stage 1 tune?
I'd rather not say exactly what is done. All I can say is I'm extremely happy with the results. Absolutely zero issues, the power gain is wild, and the fuel economy (which I forgot to talk about) is even more impressive! If you email them, they might tell you what I've done exactly. Cheers!
What is that a secret if it is a stage 1 or 2?
Honestly based of your video title. I expected you to talk much more about the tune and the related modications.
Anyway,
Are you running their "downpipe" only option ( meaning stock system after were the DPF ended? )
Closed EGR through the tune I am assuming. Has the map sensor stayed clean since you got it tuned?
Thanks
@@Suomyice around here removing any of the emissions or messing with them is illegal. Email EOC and they can give you options...
OK, are you located in the US not Canada?
@@Suomyice I am located in Canada. B.C.
Thanks for sharing.
Anytime! Thanks for watching!
Do you run a tazer on your jt?
@@danilobracho1967 yes I do
@@UnwindingRoads are you able to use the cooldown mode or the start/stop function? Or you haven't had any need for it since the weight reduction.?
@@danilobracho1967 I did not know there was a cool down mode! I can still disable the start stop function.
You can set up warnings for EGT in the CTS3. You might have done that, dunno. It's handy. Way to stick with a diesel hanging out with those V8 guys.
I did not know that!!! That's a great idea. Will do that for sure. And thank you!!
Still 3.73 gearing?
It's 4.56 gears.
That helps a lot. Just about original overall based on tire size change
@@earlhamil731 absolutely. The plan is to go 38s and that will get me very close to stock. But honestly I didn't notice much difference. It was still seeing 8th gear on the hwy with stock gears
You've had the tune for 1 1/2 years now. Any regrets yet? And did you look at any other tunes?
@@chrisbaeppler3873 for what I was after there really isn't anyone else that does it like EOC. Absolutely no regrets. Best thing to do is jump on the forums and FB pages and see how many happy EOC customers there are VS other tunes. It will paint a very clear picture that EOC is by far the best option.
@@UnwindingRoads Do you have any connections there? They won't answer the phone or emails. And which setup would you recommend?
@@chrisbaeppler3873 the owner is a friend of mine. But I have no pull there whatsoever. Even when I bring something up he says "email me". That's just how he does business. Once you email him wait about 2 weeks for a reply. It's annoying I know.
What kind of fuel mileage are you seeing
I filmed all that and I somehow didn't put it in the video. So here it goes:
I'm getting around 22 to 40mpg. 40mpg is flat going 80 kph (50 mph flat) so that's the best I'll see. I'm literally getting twice the fuel economy of my 3.6. Stock to stock I think they're close. But once loaded, it's not even close. Hope this helps.
My 3.6 is only getting 14 at best hwy with 5.13 gears and 37's
@@Millerscustomcookersandfab people don't believe me at all unless they're with me and see for themselves. I am on 37s but regeared to 4.56.
the TFL guys I believe tested one that had 4" lift and 37s, no regear that I saw and were getting 23MG on highway. its a baby diesel. but the wrangler is much lighter than a fat ass 3/4 ton truck
My untuned glady gets 23mpg with a 3.5”lift and 37’s no re-gear.
I wish there was a faster route to delete than mail my pcm🤦🏻 damn it USA lol
What EOC tune did you pick?
@@NWJeeps I have the switch in the fly option....
@@UnwindingRoads Nice! I wish I could do that as well. I have adaptive cruise so I don't have the option. What tune do you run when all your gear is loaded up? Currently I have the hot tune and I am a little worried.
@@NWJeeps with all my gear and towing I run the 30hp tune and watch temps. Egts get hot so I have to gear down slow down on hills.
Great vid! Nitto ridge grapplers look awesome, but they're shit. I have a set on my cummins right now. Had duratracs before. MUCH better, although louder. Question, why didn't you go Rubicon?
I'm absolutely loving my current trail grapplers! I should have gone rubicon. My theory was I would save money because the suspension was going in the trash anyway. I was wrong. Rubicon have an inch and a half wider axles, higher fenders, the 4:1 transfer case and metal bumpers. I should have just gone rubicon.
That’s an excellent tune for excellent wear metals in the oil lol. The fuel dilution from it from the oil samples posted were atrocious. Three times the metals in the oil from these tunes. The only one that doesn’t do it is the banks derringer.
Why so?
Over fueling at curtain rpm causing fuel to leak past the rings?
I would just say overall tune is flawed. Very very difficult for them to tune at the OEM level. The equipment and resources needed and they are not capable. Do oil lab work at least 5 times to see a trend. I'm undeleted with and have no issue and will not have issue because a lot of preventative things Im doing. If deleted I would only mod the ECU for that only and run a Derringer. Also I prefer the idash with the pod that goes into the grab handle over your dash screen but that is personal choice. The way Banks does tuning is from an OEM level. NONE of the tuners will ever achieve that no matter what they do unless they put many millions in R&D and equipment. @@Suomyice
Thanks for the explanation sir
@@Suomyice which is why you need a monitor to show throttle position. Less throttle, less fuel, lower egts. No way of knowing that by feel...
@@Good-luck-Jonathan not true at all. The derranger is a fool device. This is a proper tune. With lots of testing. Been on the market with continuous testing for almost 10 years with 1000s of vehicles done and I haven't seen or heard of any complaints other than what was mentioned. If you do a ton of hwy driving only and very little idling you'll probably be ok. Also if you're testing your oil you'll know. You definitely seem like you know what you're talking about. Oem is never the best because of all the restrictions put on them.
You should totally delete it. Y’all b.c guys come down to Eureka MT and will delete it for you in a way that no one can tell
How $$$ to do what you had done - including the exhaust pipe? $3K - $5K - $10K? Before we flood his phone/email with questions it would be nice to have an idea of the cost, because the trade off is you will be losing your manufacturer 10 year powertrain warranty.
You can do things without losing your warranty, but they'll explain better. Just to put things into perspective, my ram ecodiesel had a leaky EGR at 65k klms. I had EOC fix the problem, and I sold it at 187k absolutely problem free.... You're looking about 3500 for full setup. But make sure you mention the channel it might help... It might not... I don't know lol
Really interesting video. This is not the first video I have found discussing the concern of sludge build up on this engine. I, like you want to keep my truck long term. I have a 2022 Ram EcoDiesel. From the US. Does EcoDiesel Canada work on US vehicles?
@@rudyk5524 yes they do. Probably the most popular guys doing this there as well!
Hey man I’m 22 with a 2020 ecoDiesel wrangler and it my 3rd year with it and I’m really interested in the tune and deletes. I live in Colorado with the altitude I wouldn’t know if this would be good but for the long run I wanna do your set up any tips?!
We live in British Columbia so we actually have very similar mountain ranges. This is my second ecodiesel tuned by them, with the first having zero issues for 65k miles. I sold it problem free at that point. I can only speak from my personal experience. Best thing to do is email them and see what would be best for you. Cheers!
Are you running the stock 3.73 gears?
No I'm not, I should have mentioned that. I'm running 4.56
So if you were to do it all over again would you go with the Rubicon or stick with the Sport model?
@@jimmyj5099 honestly I don't think I saved anything getting the sport. If I were to do it again I'd get the rubi diesel.
I'm on 3.73 gears tuned to stage 1 EOC on beadlocks and 37s. I def never thought I needed a regear...maybe borderline when the 37s are brand new.
The eco-diesel guys ripped me off over $1700 never got my ECU back was unable to do a charge back
@@mariolapp1189 absolutely 0 percent chance this is true lol double check the company. And if it is eoc performance please email me your email and I will personally look into this. I'm willing to put everything on the line and say this is not true. There are fake companies that use similar names that do rip people off so you have to be careful.
Tuned? Or deleted? :D
I'm not telling...... Lol
I love my jeep. I’m just starting my TH-cam channel. It’s gonna be called dirt digger. I’m starting it soon.
Heck ya! I'll check it out!
@@UnwindingRoads it’ll be a while, but it would be much appreciated
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Cheers thanks for watching!
Did you just make a video about how cool it is to have this tune, but then say, na i am not going to tell you what tune i have. Lame...
I'll reply without making fun of you. In many places such as where I am. Certain tunes are illegal. There's a grey area. And some tunes are illegal at all. If you are truly interested in what tune I have and want to get it for your rig you can contact ecodiesel owners canada.
So you bought a brand new jeep and before 24hrs passed you completely took a shit on your warranty. So anything goes wrong with your with your transmission or engine they can say FU
LOL what do you care, not your money
Yes exactly. I don't recommend doing what I did for people that are nervous about these sorts of things. I'm a different situation than most. If this motor blows even with the mods I'll do a v8 swap or duramax. I do however highly recommend shutting off the EGR. The longer you wait the more soot builds up leaving you with a much higher risk of problems even after warranty. What I did is for reliability and longevity, not warranty.
@@81selfmade1 the internet people lol
@@UnwindingRoads lol yup. Coincidentally I emailed EOC for a order lol
@@81selfmade1 hahahah awesome. You'll love it I'm sure!
Wix
Junk engineering too!