Creality Ender 3 V2 - No More Movement at the Bowden Tube Fitting to Extruder By Doing This!

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  • I hate buying something twice! With a failing tube to fitting connection on a regular basis, the best fix seemed to be buying new parts. These parts are not too expensive but this adds up over time, some people reporting a need to replace these parts as much as once a month. On a larger scale, we are all producing a greater amount of waste than is needed and I believe it is worth fixing.
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    This is the best and cheapest solution that I have come up with, it uses as many of the original parts with only a small amount of modification needed, or to purchase a ready-made piece at around $2.50. The tools should be readily available for anyone and the process is safe and simple.
    Movement at this location causes a problem with the precision/timing of the filament being extruded. The tolerances of the extrusion and retractions are affected and the printer cannot be as precise as we may want it. This connection is also prone to complete failure over time, which will ruin a print somewhere down the line.
    I have come up with a no-heat solution because this tube when heated can emit toxic fumes which have been known to kill small animals and cause respiratory problems in humans. Thank you for the comment to make me aware of this, I hope that this provides a safter long-term solution to the problem. If you have other comments please let me know by email at Needitmakeit@gmail.com, or in the comment section below.
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  • @id104335409
    @id104335409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Appreciate that you spent time on this and shared it with everyone. Not everyone would think it's worth the effort to do that. Hope it helps a lot of people! And hope more people are like you!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem, it is a bit of a creative outlet, and lots of leaning from both the video and technical sides, it keeps me busy. I am getting better, so it is taking a bit less time to make these now. Most of my videos will center around finding problems and solving them, it is helpful and lots of people struggle and I enjoy a challenge to try and solve them.

  • @konohh
    @konohh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Simple and effective. As an owner of an Ender 3 V2 I ran into the same problem, of course. Just to be ahead of the failure of the plastic Extruder to come, I purchased the full metal one. So I ended up of having the M10 Push-Fit connector. This one does not bottom out in the Extruder assembly. I hadn't suitable washers at hand and so I put a simple M4 nut in. That fits perfectly and the widened up PTFE Tube is hold firmly in place since. No movement the past 3 weeks (~300h printing). Thanks for this ingenious tipp!

  • @joshtripp4701
    @joshtripp4701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Just want to say thank you for putting so much time into finding such a great solution.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My pleasure, I have another useful one coming up in about a week.

    • @thanasakos77
      @thanasakos77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeh

  • @joaosimoes5508
    @joaosimoes5508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't usually comment on videos. I just absorb the knowledge and go live my life. I had a difficult clog today and during the dismantling, broke those theeth inside the fitting. I can't tell you how much joy this video brought me. Even though I will soon get a replacementfitting I was staggered with the ingenuity and the simple methdology of this fix had me in tears. Applied it ipsis verbis as per recommendation. Back on track. Thank you very much.

  • @xavierlipscomb2000
    @xavierlipscomb2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video and method just saved me literal time and money! Thanks so much man. Mine wouldn’t actually hold onto the Bowden tube anymore and would just slip out!! Now I don’t have to order another one and never will have to!! Thanks again man!

  • @Futschikatores
    @Futschikatores 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this wonderfully practical solution! I was about to order a new fitting, but with your trick the old one works better than ever before.

  • @monicawu5800
    @monicawu5800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant! Brilliant brilliant brilliant. Such a simple and elegant solution. Did not have to buy new parts or 3d print new parts, and was a nearly instant fix. I watched a dozen videos trying to figure out this problem, and yours was the only one that suggested this.
    As a side effect, the print coming out right now is shocking in its precision and perfection. Turns out that the loose bowden coupling had also been affecting print quality.

  • @azaharuddinsk100
    @azaharuddinsk100 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow.. thanks for this lovely solution.. Today my extruder got clogged, and when my open the Bowden tube, all the teeth inside the nut are broken. And I don't have any spare M10 PTFE tube nut, so I thought I have to order some of them and I have to wait untill it's delivered. But I found your video and tried this and voila.. It's again started working within 5min.. really easy and amazing solution.

  • @tonyweavers4292
    @tonyweavers4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see a proper engineering solution to the problem. Well thought out.

  • @musca8803
    @musca8803 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried you solution and it seems it's working perfectly on my Longer LK5 Pro. I think that you have solved a problem that concerns a large part of the 3D printers. Great job, thank you!

  • @Ken7ray
    @Ken7ray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sooo amazing! Thnx for your effort and brilliant idea! Been dealing with this for years and finally a viable and so reliable solution! Because good/better grade ptfe tube/connector not easily available in every country as for glue/bond method is not so reliable as it’ll introduce another inconvenient (and probably not so reliable as well) in unscrewing process -that will happen ALOT when dealing with cheap filament in humid tropical area. I’ll try this method with standard non capricon tubing and see how it goes.
    Thank you so much.
    This probably should be next new standard for every tube/bowden set-up.

  • @bundinilsson9160
    @bundinilsson9160 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting this solution. Solved my issue with my broken coupler, kept slipping off.

  • @bucklogos
    @bucklogos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video. This gave me inspiration for my own fix. The extruder coupler on my machine failed and spares weren't coming for a few days so I attempted to fix it. I did something similar that works just as well but removes the step of drilling it. I took my coupler and popped out the little plastic insert you normally need to push in. I saw the little metal ring with teeth inside was broken apart so I just took it out. Next I slid the plastic bit over the bowden tube and used the drill trick to mushroom out the end so the plastic sleeve can't come off. Finally I slid the mushroom end of the bowden tube back into the brass fitting, and then pushed the plastic sleeve back inside. Final result is that the mushroom end gets clamped between the plastic bit and the brass housing so it can't come out. Not the perfect solution, but it will keep me printing for the next couple of days until the upgrades arrive. Thanks again.

  • @tamaskajfis3649
    @tamaskajfis3649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You saved my day, it happens about every 3 months with me the ptfe tube wear out and the connector also, yesterday broke again, Thank You!!!!

  • @hologos_
    @hologos_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This should be the standard! The tube doesn't move at all. Finally I can't stop ordering fittings every month. Thank you

  • @KirkyRC
    @KirkyRC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple ideas are the best....thanks for passing this tip on 😊

  • @deanolivier2508
    @deanolivier2508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, I have the M10 through fitting and was going crazy trying to sort this out. Your video saved a lot of time and possibly spending money unnecessary.

  • @plusina
    @plusina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best solution I did try, with PC4-01. Thank you for share.

  • @Hondrus
    @Hondrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    A video on Z-banding? My printer started doing this all of a sudden, after a month of life. There are too many "fixes" around the internet, and it is explained messy too much often. Thank you for your videos :D

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Perfect, thank you. I have had this problem and on occasion this printer produces them as well. I can certainly put this on the list and investigate the causes and look for the right solutions.
      Do you have this exact model of printer as well?
      I appreciate that you took the time, and also watched the video to the end.

    • @jameslaine2472
      @jameslaine2472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NeedItMakeIt if you remove the X-Gantry from an Ender 3, and spin the Z-motor with only the coupler and leadscrew attached (no X-gantry or leadscrew nut), you will easily see the problem visually; the motor-to-leadscrew coupler is not 100% perfectly centred, resulting in the Leadscrew moving laterally during operation. If the leadscrew nut attached to the X-gantry is attached too tightly, then this lateral movement will translate to the print head. One solution is to ensure that the leadscrew nut is only loosely attached to the X-gantry, so that the lateral movement is not translated to the X-Gantry. Other solutions (like the ball bearing trick) focus on mechanical changes at the coupler. Current models of Prusa Printers mostly avoid this by making the motor shaft be the leadscrew, so no coupler is needed.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At 19 upvotes so far, I think we're going to investigate this one. I'll be doing some research and will perform tests on my own parts. Do you have a part that you have some trouble with that you would like me to include in the video? Also if you have any images that you think could help, would you be able to send them to needitmakeit@gmail.com?

    • @Nordic_Goon
      @Nordic_Goon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NeedItMakeIt Please, please do one on the Voron Afterburner direct drive printhead if you do this. It's plagued with z axis extrusion problems that that devs ban you over asking questions about. A very huge community woukd be thanking you deeply if you managed to get to the bottom of it.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nordic_Goon I've seen the Voron printer go and I was impressed with the speeds it can achieve, I wasn't aware people outfitted just the direct drive to their other printers. When you say z-axis, do you have something to reference for the results you're talking about? I have 2 Ender3V2s now and I'll be making more testing videos.

  • @gregkretchmer3588
    @gregkretchmer3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I checked mine and behold! slop!! I got some capricorn tubing and, as I have the equipment, my spacer washer looks sort of like a cone, made with a round cutter so it flairs the tube while it is tightened into place. I noticed the little plastic guide holding the blades in the fitting move along with the bowden tube so the blades themselves are creating the slop. Your fix covers that well.

  • @sirukin7849
    @sirukin7849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a helpful video. I've gone through several of the pneumatic fittings for my CReality CR-30 3D printmill. I replaced the extruder with an all-metal extruder for the CR-10S, however the M8x1.5 Pneumatic fittings are hard to find.
    However, this tip for taking a screwdriver bit to the end of the PTFE tube when it's threaded through the inside of the fitting so it's flared at the end is a clever hack.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool, I'm glad you found it helpful. I was having all kinds of problems with mine, but it wasn't that easy to see.

  • @Id10tRex
    @Id10tRex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, great. I just woke up to a poped out bowden tube. This is going to solve it. Awesome. Thank you.😊

  • @caughtinlens4460
    @caughtinlens4460 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to soldering iron. Heated it up up to max and pressed it in. Works great so far.

  • @thetraviss
    @thetraviss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is good stuff. Watched more of your channel after getting this one recommended and I'm really enjoying your content so far. Subscribed, and thanks for pointing out a problem I didn't realize I had! (but totally do)

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks! I've been working hard on sound quality/video and researching, the next videos should be even better!

  • @scottjacobs4816
    @scottjacobs4816 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the only fix. Been going strong without any issues for close to a year now.

  • @bearleemadeit4718
    @bearleemadeit4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in the middle of converting a used delta kossel kit over to a duet2 wifi, and I am DEFINITELY going to use this technique!

  • @johnsterne178
    @johnsterne178 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 years later this saved me ty!

  • @LaurenceGough
    @LaurenceGough ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much, what an amazing and simple fix. Even a brand new Capricorn tube and brand new included fittings were moving on my new high end extruder, much to my annoyance! This resolved the issue super easy!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Another solution is to change to a metal extruder with the larger m10 fitting, they tend to perform better.

    • @LaurenceGough
      @LaurenceGough ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt yes true it is a omg V2 F1 extruder the machining is absolutely stunning but the couplers are terrible. All my stringing issues are gone now. I didn't think it even moved that much!!

  • @idiotluggage
    @idiotluggage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing this tip. I have been having problems with the tube slipping in the last week. Hopefully this will help the issue.

  • @dehoffe
    @dehoffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the vid. i had the same problem on ender 3 pro, driving me nuts with troubleshooting. i tried your method, but i failed the "drill through" part. it ended with the coupler having no insert at all. i just finished the rest (bead the bowden on the other side) and screwed it in. so far it works too since 3 weeks, even without the plastic/metal inner clamp piece

  • @The_Lo_Rider
    @The_Lo_Rider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best changes to my ender - thanks for thaat great idea!

  • @samuelhelderman
    @samuelhelderman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this video and subscribed. Great work. Not sure if I know how to do any of this. I’m so new. I just put my ender3v2 together last night. Gotta learn how to level the bed today and feed line through the tube and how to print.

  • @dagdernit572
    @dagdernit572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    going to try this today as I received my new line last night from Amazon. Thank you!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, I have a capricorn XL waiting to be installed, just trying to finish up my next video before I do it. I am told it has less friction, we'll see if there is any noticeable difference.

  • @abdelmohsenbenoudjit5108
    @abdelmohsenbenoudjit5108 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this ingenious tipp, it works with me very well

  • @MrCrankyface
    @MrCrankyface 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really clever solution, thanks for sharing!

  • @park0rdie
    @park0rdie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks bro!!! Just ran into pop out problem. So happy u share this video. I believe this method is key!!!

  • @ilyas5708
    @ilyas5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doing this in two days when i get my new fittings and drill bits. Thanks for the video man. That 2mm makes petg a mess. Hopefully i'll have less boogers everywhere and sleep in peace knowing that the slop is gone.

  • @HeimoVN
    @HeimoVN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great solution to this problem...

  • @sep2345
    @sep2345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey buddy, excellent video! Very helpful and easy to follow! My Capricorn tube was moving in and out about 4-5mm with each retraction after only a month of use! Crazy! The stock couplers that came with my Ender 5Pro just aren't very good! I ordered some new ones that are hopefully push through (they say they are) but in the interim I did your mod, drilled (5/32"-bit) out the center of my existing coupler, and now I have ZERO movement! Thank you so much for showing us how!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, I've found that the push through version also works well with the pre-load technique, leave the fitting about 1/2 a turn loose push the tube in until it bottoms out and then tighten. The same process as the hotend. Now why don't they send the thru fittings with the printer?

    • @sep2345
      @sep2345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt Thanks for your reply. So you are saying to loosen a push through coupler, push the Bowden tube through until it bottoms out in the extruder, and then tighten? So, I would skip the part where we deform the end of the Bowden tube with the Phillips head on a drill? That seems like the magic part of your original technique. Not sure I want to skip that. Am I misinterpreting things? Thanks again!

  • @saddle1940
    @saddle1940 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have noticed that the bowden tube is also chewed up by the couplers. This is because the design of the printer also makes the tube rotate about 8 degrees or so as the head moves back and forward on the X carriage. The teeth chew into the tube during rotation. If the extruder were moved to be inline with the carriage movement, it would stop this. I could imagine the extruder mounted on the end of the carriage facing vertically so the tube loops up and then down into the hot end.
    Also, the end of the tube can be cut way more cleanly and perfectly square it you push it through a coupler and cut it flat against the screw end. The tube cutter doesn't always cut it square as the tube has a bend in it and it doesn't sit perfectly in the cutter. It needs something to force it down into the v-grove. Sounds like a 3D design and print job!

  • @outcry27
    @outcry27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Followed the suggestions in this video, drilled out a QD fitting to 4mm to allow the tube to pass through, flared the end as shown, carefully reinstalled... and the threads immediately sheared off inside the extruder top plate. Next stop, $20 for a replacement extruder assembly (the M10 one shown at 4:12). YMMV, but I can't say I recommend trying this with the M6 fitting.

  • @stevewhite9765
    @stevewhite9765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used the Thingiverse solution that worked great. Thanks for the suggestions

  • @koyzumie
    @koyzumie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I’ve been noticing this exact problem on my printer so I’m gonna have to give this a try!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an even easier fix, the same through fitting, just make sure you purchase this through fitting, leave the fitting 1/2 a turn loose then grab some sandpaper push the tube until it bottoms out, tighten completely and you are set. Solid like a rock, this is the simplest solution possible with existing fittings, they really should come with this and instructions as well.

  • @gadjetsvideo
    @gadjetsvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea, thanks for sharing.

  • @PeterAcrat
    @PeterAcrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for linking through to this update 👍
    I suspect my Prusa mini is suffering from this... I know it's not the filament or the retraction settings as same file and filament gets different results in each of my two minis. 🤞

  • @jetranger47
    @jetranger47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you... Iv'e been fighting with this problem on my printer.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure, if I had the problem, I'm sure many others have also. I'll keep investigating other solutions, some of the very expensive printers have better options, and come with a price, but it might be worth it.

  • @Loneman_OG
    @Loneman_OG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been looking forward to this vijayo and wasn't disappointed.
    I've been using the aftermarket connectors with the Capricorn PTFE for a while now and after having to replace the first couple along with cutting off 20-30mm of tubing I found a similar solution.
    What I did was push the tube through a little more than normal, flair the end out with my countersink/deburring tool by rotating it the non-cutting direction while pushing then giving it a couple of light turns in the cutting direction.
    It lasts quite a bit longer now but your method is clearly superior.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great compliment, thank you!
      Like you I have some Capricorn, but I've been waiting to install it because I wanted to do a test on it as well, I've been wondering how short of a tube I can get away with in order to reduce a little friction, make filament changes a bit quicker and increase the precision slightly also. Now having a much better connection at the extruder, that extra movement shouldn't affect it over time and we might be able to get away with something around 10"
      I started with using heat to flare the tube, but this stuff is poison when heated and we needed something safe and this was the result. The manufacturer should really make a better connector. Maybe I'll design one and send it to them.
      Yours is a great solution as well, I had the advantage of getting a lot of feedback from people online and just put everyone's ideas together, I call it 'crowd-ideaing'.
      Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment also!

    • @Loneman_OG
      @Loneman_OG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeedItMakeIt _'crowd-ideaing'_
      Haha, I like it. :D

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe we can crowd-idea a new name for it too!

    • @Loneman_OG
      @Loneman_OG ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt Just a quick update.
      I was waiting for my "fix" to finally fail, and I was then going to try your method... but it hasn't failed at all since I posted my original comment, and it's had many spools passing through it, too! 😲
      I can't get over how such a simple solution fixed what was quickly becoming a real PITA. 😎

  • @mrdriver511
    @mrdriver511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a great idea
    I have been struggling with this issue for a while
    Thanks

  • @WalterCrumbcake
    @WalterCrumbcake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice clear instruction. This is some next level modding.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome comment, really appreciate it! I can do better and have some pretty cool videos coming up.

  • @toddcoello6461
    @toddcoello6461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great idea. Idk about anyone else but 1 of my printers is a geeetech a20m and for some reason anytime I try Capricorn tubing it just hates it. If you use the cheap stuff I have zero issue.

  • @Dee13i
    @Dee13i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did it recently. It works really well!

  • @facusoriano22
    @facusoriano22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks you! This is the solution i was finding, regards from Argentina!!!

  • @quadplay2591
    @quadplay2591 ปีที่แล้ว

    A brilliant idea, works a charm 👌 well done for sharing

    • @quadplay2591
      @quadplay2591 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your videoography skills are excellent too

  • @ShwarzBelij
    @ShwarzBelij ปีที่แล้ว

    I just converted a Bowden 3D printer into a direct one. And no problem. Also with direct you can print with Flex filament.

  • @1000rdreamer
    @1000rdreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. That is a really good idea to solve a problem that I have. I asked a few people but it never really get it answer. I had a print that had ALOT of retraction and it really messed up my fitting and tube.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are still better solutions, however they do require more expensive fitting, this is cheap and something anyone should be able to do with a few tools (or borrowed tools).

    • @1000rdreamer
      @1000rdreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt th-cam.com/video/c-co7FW90MQ/w-d-xo.html
      This is an option I found too that possibly can work. The other option I found is a direct drive does way better with the multiple retractions. Cuz it only moves roughly about a millimeter.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1000rdreamer These better fittings will help for sure. I would look into a direct-drive down the line, my goal with this fix is the make the solution accessible for everyone who just purchased one and may not have the means to upgrade to direct drive. Of course direct drive also can cause more ringing/ghosing in the prints at higher speeds. for high quality printers, Bowden seems to be the common choice, I would tend to rely on their engineers making good decisions about this as well.

    • @1000rdreamer
      @1000rdreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt Good point. Definitely is a good point on finding a good easy solution. I use some Amazon Capricorn tubing and fittings and I had two of the fittings fail. I use TH3D fittings and tubing and it lasts longer. I was printing a RC mini milk crate that had a lot of start and stops. It just ate up my Capricorn tubing and fittings. Have a Monoprice maker select V2 that is direct drive and it did it with no problems. So I guess it all depends on what type of print it is makes a big difference on what printer should use it on.

  • @eXtremeHeli
    @eXtremeHeli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this inspiration!
    You are a genius, also works perfectly on the CR-6SE! :-)

  • @JorgeGalarza1990
    @JorgeGalarza1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple but effective, thanks man

  • @voltage3d469
    @voltage3d469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done, I'm gonna give it a go.

  • @JayJay-rb6rt
    @JayJay-rb6rt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Buddy, excellent video as it solve the issues i had with my printer. ANET A8v2.
    Thank you so much!

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used your idea in a slighly modified form. Instead of drilling out existing fitting I used plain old 2 cm M6 steel bolt. It works perfectly. The problem with using drilled out existing fitting was that it snapped right off when I was tighthening it. There was simply not enough material left and brass just couldn't handle it. I just had to be careful not to to overtighten it and pull the threads from aluminum extruder housing.

    • @km077
      @km077 ปีที่แล้ว

      literally me 💀

  • @MonkeeyAyanami
    @MonkeeyAyanami 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome fix, thanks for the info!
    Also that background music jams

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, thanks for the support!

  • @sss-tw3jh
    @sss-tw3jh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if your bowden tube fitting is in a cylindrical piece and too difficult to un-thread and has a diameter too large to try the Phillips head drill fix (like what happened to me on my Flsun Q5) i found that passing it through the fitting, wrapping in somewhat stretched and thinned PTFE plumbers tape, and liberally applying super glue created a concrete-like bung that immobilizes the tube within the fitting. For whatever reason, the plumbing tape sticks well to the tube, and the super glue cures the tape like a rock, and sticks to the aluminum piece. IDK Why this works. But it worked for me. Cheelz.

  • @Juan-wy9oe
    @Juan-wy9oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, great video this tip save my day keep doing this man you are helping a lot.

  • @chrismckay3868
    @chrismckay3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I solved it too.. in about 2 minutes with an hour drying time.. I used shoe goo to glue the ptfe tube to the plastic pull out fitting so it can still rotate. it has now been going for months. No primers no anything.. only glue the tube to the top hat and your nut will still turn so you can unscrew the fitting.. no movement period but I can peel the shoe goo off and remove it if I need.
    I did this with the stock white ptfe tube on my ender 3 pros, it worked so good on my first one I glued the tube on my second pro before ever using it. You will want to do the ender 3 pro hotend mod with the separate section of tube in the heat break so you don't ever have to replace the overheated section at the bottom at maintenance times. And you don't need a lot, just a fine coating about half inch up the tube and over the top ring of the pull out fitting. Feel free to use cheap fittings when you do this as they hold just fine this way :)
    As for the superglue? That would be a bad plan, the shoe goo (and of the amazing goop products really) Can with effort and patience be completely remove and it stays flexible, I have some things I have glued on with it years ago still holding firm. Superglue as I said is brittle and does not remove readily or easily and will always leave residue.

  • @RichardThompsonCA
    @RichardThompsonCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great idea, I'm going to give it a try on one of my enders. I only worry that the tube will try to return to it's original shape over time.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So far so good, I wanted to test it for a while to make sure it was good before I released the video. Once the material is stretched beyond its modulus it seems to want to retain that shape. It is important to have a little pressure inside the threaded hole so that the PTFE can't move even if it wants to. I specifically wanted to stay away from heating it, because it is poison and pretty dangerous. Great point, and certainly a consideration. It would be best to come pre-done from the manufacturer with a similar solution... or even better to have a different fitting, like a tiny PEX tube.

    • @claws61821
      @claws61821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also try getting a short piece of brake line or brass tubing that fits inside your bowden tube and flare that to fit. Finding the right size might be slightly difficult but that would make it less likely for the PTFE (or silicone, if you use Capricorn) (or whatever else you used if you bought your tubing at a hardware store) to spring back.

    • @RichardThompsonCA
      @RichardThompsonCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@claws61821 If I understand correctly, I don't think that would work. There's no real clearance between the filament and the inside of the Bowden tube. Tubes are around 1.9 mm I.D. and the filament is 1.75 mm O.D. But I think you are on the right track. I've thought about using some kind of metal interlock with the tubing to keep it in place.

    • @claws61821
      @claws61821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RichardThompsonCA That's a good point, especially when you consider production tolerances of filament (I've read some articles where people where measuring as much as +-0.25!!! though the standard is +-0.02 to +-0.12).
      Then again, you're already flaring the tube to hold it in the first place. Flaring it a little deeper to a lesser diameter shouldn't hurt much, and might actually help that much more. Also, it occurs to me that you might be able to use aluminum foil to make this internal fitting if you can figure out a good press-mold design; and the flare from either the fitting or the tube should help considerably with the old "The filament won't ****ing go in!" issue on some extruders, like a countersunk hole. (speaking of extruders, narrow entrances, and pet peeves: WHY did Creality leave a sheer edge on the inlet side that encourages even good, brand new, dry filament to break?)

  • @alessandrogiuliani2915
    @alessandrogiuliani2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t have this problem now... but it’s a very good solution, nice👍 your video look really professional

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, that means a lot! I have been working hard to improve the video and audio and condense the videos as well.

  • @TrojanHorse1959
    @TrojanHorse1959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New subscriber here, that is an excellent fix, thank you!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help, thanks for the support!

  • @813Floridaman
    @813Floridaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your a saint thanks for your help I tried everything but this worked thanks man

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can also try switching to the larger m10 fitting, I've found them to be far more reliable than this small m6 I believe it is.

  • @XtianNinjaYT
    @XtianNinjaYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! Thank you! Amazing video!

  • @The3DHead
    @The3DHead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you man. You saved my day

  • @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
    @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All you do need it 2 things to solve the problem. Get yourself some correct MC4 connectors of amazon and the safety clamp called "Boden Tube Clamp" those will prevent the tube from slipping within the fitting.
    Biggest problem we facing on 3D printing is on the hotend side. We have vulcano hotends in use but applies to all units. The Boden tube goes into the Heat break cooling block and connects where to the all metal heat break. 80% of the time there is a gap in between the MC4 and the hotend heat break especially when you use titanium after market pieces they do come in all sorts of different length which often even when bought from the same vendor leave us with a gap in between those 2 parts. Now if you are not careful and don't know about it it can happen that your boden tube is not perfectly slipping into the heat break leaving you with a not visible gab between those 2 parts and often cause clogging during prints. It took us 2 weeks to find out that the one heat break we had floating around was 2mm shorter than all others we used which caused the gap and the boden tub to button out on the top and not sliding into the drilled out tight fitting.
    2 solutions. Hotend chamfer it out but because it is titanium it's not really a good solution. Best solution would be an infill piece which bridge between the MC4-M10 connector end and the hotend to fill the gap so the boden tube slip thru it into the heat break opening.

  • @johnkelley9877
    @johnkelley9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just subscribed. This will be helpful and I hope to get a printer soon.

  • @duanesapp4914
    @duanesapp4914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This looks like my fix. The only thing I had to do different is go up on the drill bit size. I had to use a 11/64 drill bit due to I did not have a 4 mm drill bit.

  • @blakesupra4440
    @blakesupra4440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thanks 👍

  • @flaviomarcioti
    @flaviomarcioti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grande idéia, obrigado por compartilhar!

  • @TheMustafaC
    @TheMustafaC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is really helpfull, thank you

  • @malloott
    @malloott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice KISS solution!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, this is what I strive for with my solutions.

  • @nunopereira6092
    @nunopereira6092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After years of struggling with my Ender 3's and 5's and doing all matter of fixes for the Bowden system, i gave up and went with a BMG direct drive conversion and a Petsfang V2 duct. Never had any problems since, and i'm still using the standard MK8 Creality hotends.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to look into this as well, are you able to provide a link, I had a look and I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right one.

    • @nunopereira6092
      @nunopereira6092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeedItMakeIt Here's what I use for the Ender 3, you may need to print the correct parts depending on the hardware you plan to use, i.e., MK8 vs E3D V6, Stock extruder vs Bondtech BMG, Bltouch or inductive sensor bracket, or none, Stock part cooling fan VS 5015 blower, etc. My particular setup is the MK8+Bltouch+BMG+single 5015. www.thingiverse.com/thing:2907538 Also, since the Bondtech BMG extruder does 3:1 gear reduction, I could get away with a lightweight pancake stepper motor instead of the heavier stock motor.

    • @JohnSmith-mk8hz
      @JohnSmith-mk8hz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Direct drive has it's advantages but because of the added weight ,you will get some noise in the prints that you won't have with Bowden.

  • @MikelRChannel
    @MikelRChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just inserted a rubber band to keep the tube from slipping and it worked

  • @visionofcomplexity
    @visionofcomplexity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @JOXVOX
    @JOXVOX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise with us. kind regards from a fellow youtube content creator

  • @danieli1351
    @danieli1351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea

  • @barkbarkatthemoon
    @barkbarkatthemoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great solution to this problem !!!!

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks! Pretty simple, I was trying to take everything I read from previous videos and use it for this one.

  • @SkillfulMan
    @SkillfulMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice work

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Skillful Man! Nice name by the way.

  • @jodyking7278
    @jodyking7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you need to worry about movement at the other end? Can you combine this idea on the nozzle side with the "hotend fix" where you use a cut piece of tubing in the nozzle? It seems like you could do this same thing on both ends in combination with the hotend fix.

  • @hokazshinitzu9042
    @hokazshinitzu9042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very help me thanks bro

  • @jlkoelker
    @jlkoelker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I received a ender 3 v2 on 3/26 and they had a better fitting with more metal teeth. I haven't printed with it yet. But they appear to be an improvement on the previous fittings.
    Edit: Prints great! I did the tape test and there's no movement at all. Still upgrading to capricorn for high temp printing, but the stock tubing prints great. Also the extruder knob has a brass insert now which is a major plus.

    • @ResistCircuitResist
      @ResistCircuitResist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got my v2 about a month ago and it had multiple teeth vs the 4 shown in the video.

    • @Rick104547
      @Rick104547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me this was the same, there actually 10 teeth inside

  • @loganmacks7836
    @loganmacks7836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is awesome

  • @rajualbeena
    @rajualbeena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good

  • @Cosmicnomadzaa
    @Cosmicnomadzaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New subscriber here, quality info !

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, more to come!

  • @eselliebe2741
    @eselliebe2741 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fixed this issue in 1 minute with 2 inches of tape. Just pull the tube out as much as possible and then wrap the tape tightly around it, adjacent to the fitting. Works perfect.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This acts as a type of pre-load for the springs? The tape rests against the fitting preventing the tube from moving inward, is that correct?

  • @km077
    @km077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pro tip: if you start feeling some resistance while screwing that fitting, do a half of a turn and LEAVE it... or you can just continue like me, have the threads' section shear itself off staying inside forever (blocking any new fitting) and order an aluminum extruder mount AND hope you don't break it this time. Such an easy fix and I stil managed to break it somehow...

    • @PanayiotisMenelaou
      @PanayiotisMenelaou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I double this, that's exactly what happened to me. Luckily I was able to remove the broken part. Fitting a brand new all metal coupler was the proper fix to me.

  • @lupeledezma8361
    @lupeledezma8361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i updated my bowden tube to the capricorn one and im still seeing movement. Im guessing ill have to go ahead and try out what you showed on the video. Will it be possible to do it with the coupling that came with the capricorn tube?

  • @zombietwostep
    @zombietwostep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent advise, subscribbed

  • @javiemessi
    @javiemessi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, very good job. Thanks. I have ender 3 V2 too.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, and thanks for the support!

    • @javiemessi
      @javiemessi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeedItMakeIt hi, can you print 220x220mm in the ender 3 v2?. I have the home XY in the corner to close to the edge of bed. Also, what firmware do you use. I still have the original of creality 1.0.2. What you recomend. I want to add filament sensor.

    • @NeedItMakeIt
      @NeedItMakeIt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javiemessi I have never tried it, my glass build plate is 235 x 235, I would expect that it can truly print 220 x 220 as long as you do not use a brim or skirt. The default line along the side of the build plate to make sure material extrudes may also interfere a little. If you plan on upgrading your firmware, it now costs money. When I did mine it was free. It was a while ago, and I have it, however I can't recall which release it was. I'd have to check my printer when I have a chance.
      To avoid the filament sensor, I pre-plan my prints and measure how much is left on the spool. I just have one blank spool hanging around so I can pre-load the scale to get the exact weight and compare to the values in Cura which seem to be a tiny bit padded).

  • @tonisterasmaa1813
    @tonisterasmaa1813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice fix. My biggest problem currently is severe elephants foot effect occurring and thus makin my CHEP cube about 19,6..19,7 mm high in the z axis. If leveld the bed and champfered the plate contact surface to no avail. Also tampered with ultimaker cura and creality slicer settings for first layer expansion and what not, but still getting more than 0,2mm shrinking in z axis... But it is only on the print surface contact faces that get this squishing effect that reduce the z-axis part height.. I have Ender 3 v2 (un-modded) .

  • @Silver-nm2if
    @Silver-nm2if 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My silver bearing does not move with the gears. And filament isnt moving either. And there are no clogs in the nozzle. I tried tightening the extruder and it works for a few seconds then the silver bearing stops moving again. So frustrating

  • @karipenttila2655
    @karipenttila2655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool idea!

  • @Hyratel
    @Hyratel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A note on the printed fittings - they're vulnerable to layer failure if printed vertical, but are ridiculously strong if horizontal. The only downside is the amount of cleanup the downfacing threads require

  • @Harad_nur
    @Harad_nur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot)