I use an iRig Stream which is a bit expensive for what it is but you have better control over levels and can mix in a mic and monitor that as you go, found it really useful for getting beats into the phone…
Nice yeah would be good to have a bit more control like that. I'm hoping Roland can at least to an update so we can push the USB out volume a bit but keep the headphones low!
It’s so handy for that. I’ve noticed it can be quiet quiet though - not sure if it’s my adapter or cable but I have to use a video editor and boost the volume afterwards
My beats don’t tend to be on one pad. Usually performing from the pattern mode so I can’t really do that. Wish you could boost the volume on iPhone natively!
@@spvidz There must be a way, i’ve been checking all over the internet for a solution and i’ve seen some people talking about setting the usb input to 0db, did you try this yet?
Good and informative videos. I recorded from my iPad via USB-C and it was really efficient. About USB-C charging, it’s all about choices. I’ve been able to use the SP with no batteries via a powerbank, but it has to be USB-C on both ends for that too work. But then you won’t be able to use that USB-C cable for audio pass through, so you’ll either need to use the AA batteries or an AC adapter. I know you probably know that, but just FYI for others. Keep the good vids coming.
Hello, there is an error in what you say. I have connected the USB-C cable from my MacBook PRO (the one that comes from the factory for power) to SP404-MK2 and it can be used as a power and audio source, since I have sampled perfectly and without batteries, only feeding from the internal battery of my Mac, I hope to help with this information, a greeting
Thanks man yeah I gathered that was the case but appreciate you posting. I will definitely have to try USB-C to USB-C and see if I can get the unit running off that power source!
@@taller513 I was thinking along the lines of his example of using a mobile device like an iPhone, but yes you are right about both audio and power being used via USB-C via the MBP. Not as portable IMO, but that use case works.
Well you can resample patterns/beats to a pad and then export so that’s a good workaround. I think a more robust song recording mode would be a good addition though yeah 👍
Had to figure out the hard way, that you need the Camera Adapter and " USB data transfer cable" (guess I missed that in the video🤣). Standard Apple charger will not work. Thank you again for the tips!
It would be nice if you could make a video sampling from your IPhone 13 to the SP404-mk2. Is it possible to do it through the Lighting cable? Because from an IPad it is possible, but from the phone I can't do it, thanks
I've not tried those specific cables but I do have other cables that can do the job. I've got a video about that here - th-cam.com/video/g7b97QsNO7M/w-d-xo.html
I use an iRig Pro Duo for this purpose. But an interface like that is also nice since I can record with phantom powered microphones into the 404. Because the 404 has no phantom powered XLR inputs, understandably. Edit: The only thing that I hate about the 404 is that you can't mute the monitor output when you just want to listen to headphones - when I have my monitors plugged into the 404 and then want to check how my mix sounds in headphones I have to physically pull out the monitor output cables each time, which is really annoying.
The iRig looks nice but a bit pricey for me to justify. I do think there are some audio routing/level issues to be solved on the MK2 like you've pointed out. I would also like to be able to independently change the volume of the USB out and the headphones so I don't have to blow my eardrums out to get a decent level
@@spvidz Just for those things I mentioned in that comment, I would agree with you that the iRig Duo can't be justified. But I'm a classical guitarist as well as a hiphop producer, so the iRig comes in useful to record my live concerts and such! More flexibility with the USB out is a shout
Thanks man. The Zoom recorders are great. My only problem with them is having to replace the batteries all the time. I need to get some rechargeable ones!
i've tried that connection, hit the pad and press record on the iphone, but it doesn't pick up a signal from the sp II. it just records as usual, from the phone's internal mic. Also, on the other way around (recording in from the phone), can't see to find a solution for that either. i'm thinking it has to be audio out/or audio in, to try either.... (task for today.)
You can do that yes, that's not the problem here. The problem is the output of the USB seems very quiet on the SP. You can't get a good signal without destroying your ears in your headphones. I'm hoping Roland will do an update where you can boost the signal of the USB out.
TBH I can sample at ok volumes from my computer, but I do find myself normalising samples a lot. The main issue is when I'm trying to send the signal to either my phone or my computer, its really quiet!
I'm pretty sure that will work yes. The newer iPhones are USB-C and apparently you can do it with just a USB-C cable so I don't see why it wouldn't work with yours!
When recording to voice memo, is it possible to get it in stereo? If not are there any similar free apps that will record beats on 2 channels? Just looking for a quick fix until I can get my computer situation fixed. Thanks for any feedback
I have simple usb - lightning media kit (the same like yours without type-c) , I can record only video together with audio using iPhone, if I recording only audio (voice memos) nothing happening . why???
I have noticed mine is quiet when recording in video yes. I change the gain options in utility to lower the headphone volume so I can crank the master volume
I'm not sure why you would be having issues like that. I have made plenty of pattern based beats on my SP. Its not perfect but it can definitely get the job done with a bit of tweaking.
Tried streaming to Instagram via usb c on Android and it wouldn't work. Same with getting the audio during a video. Dunno if it's an android issue or having the wrong type of usbc cable (because i know different ones have different capabilities despite looking the same) but any feedback from fellow Android users would be appreciated
A direct cable from my SP to my phone doesn’t work either so maybe it’s the same situation with android. I have to use that little usb adapter to get it to work
Android picks up the sp404 you’d have to have headphones connected to mk2 for playback but believe it’s playing through , for example using my ext in (turntable) it plays through but the process for me is recording a video from camera while the sp404 is connected to phone, after recording is done stop the video and play it back .. instagram notes .. I tried to live stream with a friend but that was tough because the mic from phone was being picked up only because the Ig app interferes since it automatically needs mic for live streams it grabs the phones internal mic , I tried usb tethering but I had a Samsung galaxy note 9 , could be that it’s an older model with the lack of capabilities . However only way around it was buying a splitter , but splitters cause for lack of quality in my opinion .. I guess the I rig is a more quality component from what I hear these past years
I've thought about it in the past. I don't really like using my phone for it but maybe could get it again for the iPad and see if that makes life a bit easier
I use an iRig Stream which is a bit expensive for what it is but you have better control over levels and can mix in a mic and monitor that as you go, found it really useful for getting beats into the phone…
Nice yeah would be good to have a bit more control like that. I'm hoping Roland can at least to an update so we can push the USB out volume a bit but keep the headphones low!
Could you record into the GarageBand app in your phone for more control and sharing?
Also gives you hundreds of samples and loops from the free expansion packs
Man...i needed this. I just got the mk2 a month ago and now i can record beatvids again for instagram. I love this machine lol
It’s so handy for that. I’ve noticed it can be quiet quiet though - not sure if it’s my adapter or cable but I have to use a video editor and boost the volume afterwards
@@spvidz Did you try normalizing the beat? That might be the problem as well!
My beats don’t tend to be on one pad. Usually performing from the pattern mode so I can’t really do that. Wish you could boost the volume on iPhone natively!
@@spvidz There must be a way, i’ve been checking all over the internet for a solution and i’ve seen some people talking about setting the usb input to 0db, did you try this yet?
@makesenz will have a look at that. Thanks bro
I use the my volts rip cord cable for the sp404 mk2 to a power bank. It free’s up the usb c port
Nice yeah annoyingly my power bank doesn’t work with the myvolts adapter. Need to source a new one at some point
I just use audio out to 3.5mm to lighting connector. Works great and can set the levels in most apps to record.
Works equally as well I imagine yes 👍
@@spvidz Yes it does. Great that the MKII has 2 headphones out so can use one of those or the main outs.
yeah its really handy when switching between the older SP range/older samplers as well. I no longer have to constantly screw and unscrew my adapter 😂
I just got a mk2 for Christmas I love it. I wonder if I can use my Roland go:mixer to record onto my phone.
Good and informative videos. I recorded from my iPad via USB-C and it was really efficient. About USB-C charging, it’s all about choices. I’ve been able to use the SP with no batteries via a powerbank, but it has to be USB-C on both ends for that too work. But then you won’t be able to use that USB-C cable for audio pass through, so you’ll either need to use the AA batteries or an AC adapter. I know you probably know that, but just FYI for others. Keep the good vids coming.
Hello, there is an error in what you say. I have connected the USB-C cable from my MacBook PRO (the one that comes from the factory for power) to SP404-MK2 and it can be used as a power and audio source, since I have sampled perfectly and without batteries, only feeding from the internal battery of my Mac, I hope to help with this information, a greeting
Thanks man yeah I gathered that was the case but appreciate you posting. I will definitely have to try USB-C to USB-C and see if I can get the unit running off that power source!
@@taller513 I was thinking along the lines of his example of using a mobile device like an iPhone, but yes you are right about both audio and power being used via USB-C via the MBP. Not as portable IMO, but that use case works.
you can connect to a powerbank with a myvolts ripcord 5.7v to usb cable! currently running my mkii on it and it works great
@@sussvarman He posted a video about it awhile back, and now I have it laying on top of my SP box. 👍
Thanks boss! Super helpful for outside recording ideas!
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That was very useful, thank you 🙏
Thanks for the info!
No probs, thanks for tuning in!
would be nice if in an update you could record to the SD or to a usbc thumb drive...
Well you can resample patterns/beats to a pad and then export so that’s a good workaround. I think a more robust song recording mode would be a good addition though yeah 👍
@@spvidz ya, limited to 16 mins i think... just want to be able to record a live set of dj set... would be great...
Had to figure out the hard way, that you need the Camera Adapter and " USB data transfer cable" (guess I missed that in the video🤣). Standard Apple charger will not work. Thank you again for the tips!
Glad you got sorted!
So what I need to search for to get that white adapter is “camera adapter” ?
this happened yesterday by accident when i was recording a video while connected into my sp through type c
haha nice. Its a useful little feature
It would be nice if you could make a video sampling from your IPhone 13 to the SP404-mk2. Is it possible to do it through the Lighting cable? Because from an IPad it is possible, but from the phone I can't do it, thanks
I've not tried those specific cables but I do have other cables that can do the job. I've got a video about that here - th-cam.com/video/g7b97QsNO7M/w-d-xo.html
I have an android phone and I plug it in with a sea type cord and I had external source but I still can't hear it play on mark. Twhat do I need to
So this wire USB C to 6.35mm Male TRS Cable
Wonder if this works for the mpc live
With the right cable I don’t see why not. I’ll try it 👍
I use an iRig Pro Duo for this purpose. But an interface like that is also nice since I can record with phantom powered microphones into the 404.
Because the 404 has no phantom powered XLR inputs, understandably.
Edit: The only thing that I hate about the 404 is that you can't mute the monitor output when you just want to listen to headphones - when I have my monitors plugged into the 404 and then want to check how my mix sounds in headphones I have to physically pull out the monitor output cables each time, which is really annoying.
The iRig looks nice but a bit pricey for me to justify. I do think there are some audio routing/level issues to be solved on the MK2 like you've pointed out. I would also like to be able to independently change the volume of the USB out and the headphones so I don't have to blow my eardrums out to get a decent level
@@spvidz Just for those things I mentioned in that comment, I would agree with you that the iRig Duo can't be justified. But I'm a classical guitarist as well as a hiphop producer, so the iRig comes in useful to record my live concerts and such! More flexibility with the USB out is a shout
@@simondanielssonmusic The roland Go mixer might also be useful (but haven't tried.
will this method work with all apps that have access to use the microphone?
Can you just use your lightning to c cord that comes with a phone?
Worth a try yeah!
@@spvidz Thanks
Great info bro!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Probably can make a quick on the fly video! Appreciate you sharing
Hope it helps you man, thanks for watching again!
I use zoom H2N but recording to a phone would be cool, nice vid.
Thanks man. The Zoom recorders are great. My only problem with them is having to replace the batteries all the time. I need to get some rechargeable ones!
@@spvidz i run my Zoom H2N off a usb power bank
ah nice. Thats a dope idea
i've tried that connection, hit the pad and press record on the iphone, but it doesn't pick up a signal from the sp II. it just records as usual, from the phone's internal mic. Also, on the other way around (recording in from the phone), can't see to find a solution for that either. i'm thinking it has to be audio out/or audio in, to try either.... (task for today.)
Hmm that seems to me its not recognising the adapter then. Good luck sorting it out man!
Will this work if i recorded a video on my phone.
i find it strange that you cant just use a USB c to lightning cable like the one included with the iphone.
Yeah that would be a lot easier. That little box obviously does some magic. With that cable on its own my phone just records the internal mic
Yeah, the samples are not the loudest, but I just go into start/stop and push the encoder to normalize...
You can do that yes, that's not the problem here. The problem is the output of the USB seems very quiet on the SP. You can't get a good signal without destroying your ears in your headphones. I'm hoping Roland will do an update where you can boost the signal of the USB out.
@@spvidz Oh, i see... So its quiet both ways then...
TBH I can sample at ok volumes from my computer, but I do find myself normalising samples a lot. The main issue is when I'm trying to send the signal to either my phone or my computer, its really quiet!
@@spvidz Thats really good to know, that way I dont think its my unit when these issues come across my way.
Can this be done with a Samsung Galaxy phone via usb c?
I'm pretty sure that will work yes. The newer iPhones are USB-C and apparently you can do it with just a USB-C cable so I don't see why it wouldn't work with yours!
@@spvidz cheers bro
When recording to voice memo, is it possible to get it in stereo? If not are there any similar free apps that will record beats on 2 channels?
Just looking for a quick fix until I can get my computer situation fixed.
Thanks for any feedback
I have simple usb - lightning media kit (the same like yours without type-c) , I can record only video together with audio using iPhone, if I recording only audio (voice memos) nothing happening . why???
Is it because the signal is too low? try taking your headphones off and cranking the volume of your SP.
Hey man , can you add a mic to the mk and record voclas and it goes to the phone even while doing a video? or you have to use the phones mic?
Yeah you can but you have to make sure you have external source on when you want to have vocals on the top
@@spvidz awesome man thanks 🙏🏽
do you get a louder volume when recording into voice notes a opposed to using camera ? I have low volume issues as well when filming
I have noticed mine is quiet when recording in video yes. I change the gain options in utility to lower the headphone volume so I can crank the master volume
@@spvidz ok thank you 🙏
I just wonder when Roland is gonna give us an update? Also, why does the Pattern mode make it so challenging to get songs on time?
I'm not sure why you would be having issues like that. I have made plenty of pattern based beats on my SP. Its not perfect but it can definitely get the job done with a bit of tweaking.
Tried streaming to Instagram via usb c on Android and it wouldn't work. Same with getting the audio during a video. Dunno if it's an android issue or having the wrong type of usbc cable (because i know different ones have different capabilities despite looking the same) but any feedback from fellow Android users would be appreciated
A direct cable from my SP to my phone doesn’t work either so maybe it’s the same situation with android. I have to use that little usb adapter to get it to work
Android picks up the sp404 you’d have to have headphones connected to mk2 for playback but believe it’s playing through , for example using my ext in (turntable) it plays through but the process for me is recording a video from camera while the sp404 is connected to phone, after recording is done stop the video and play it back .. instagram notes .. I tried to live stream with a friend but that was tough because the mic from phone was being picked up only because the Ig app interferes since it automatically needs mic for live streams it grabs the phones internal mic , I tried usb tethering but I had a Samsung galaxy note 9 , could be that it’s an older model with the lack of capabilities . However only way around it was buying a splitter , but splitters cause for lack of quality in my opinion .. I guess the I rig is a more quality component from what I hear these past years
Can u do koala sampler vids in the future brooo
I've thought about it in the past. I don't really like using my phone for it but maybe could get it again for the iPad and see if that makes life a bit easier
Why does every SP404 Mk2 owner seem to be an Apple user?
Guess I'll just connect it to my 3.5 jack - Like any good phone should have anyway.