WARNING!! BE CAREFUL NOT TO COOK YOUR TURBO EVOLUTION 'S ESC BY FGFRC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Ran into this issue the other day and I believe it's not a design flaw just something that happens if you put in too big a battery or keep flying back to back.
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Be careful to equip this plane with a battery that allows for airflow to the ESC. Also a good practice is to always allow any esc time to cool down between flights!
thank you. As a relatively new guy to the hobby this is really valuable information to keep in mind.
Glad to help
Your very lucky that the ESC didn't melt thru your foam. The ESC warning for thermal protection according to the manual for the Avian 60A ESC is 110 Celsius or 230 Fahrenheit . This means that ESC was hotter than that and the protection inside the ESC reduced power to your motor to 60% until the ESC reaches acceptable temperature or under 230F. This is if the ESC is doing what its designed to do. I like to monitor my ESC and Battery Temp while flying if the day is hot or I am doing aerobatics and I back off the throttle at 190f. You mention you rested the plane by flying a different plane which is excellent. I go one step further by leaving the battery bay open with battery removed, to maximize cooling and in the shade if possible. Great Video and glad you shared it. 🤠🗽⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍✔God Bless🙏
I do the same I leave the hatch open or off. This day was hot and a fluke I never fly back to back like that , but on this day I had crashed the Vampire and my head was not in the game.
I always fly a plane then move to another and then go back - as you say let the ESC rest... Good Advice - could have been a close call..
Yep I normally leap frog them too.
Good word. My friend and I will fly together at the end of the day when everyone else is gone home and practice touch and goes. We fly 3-4 batteries in a row. I’m using a 2600 mAh that gives plenty of room, and always check temps. In this hot Florida weather, an overheat is easy to happen.
Sounds great! Its great the have the club member there but its great to have the field to yourself also .Where in Florida?
@@FatGuyFliesRC Just outside Orlando in Apopka, FL. Our club is the Remote Control Association of Central Florida. We have several good pilots, including Don Lowe and Jason Shulman.
Good advice, Gary! 👍🏻
Thanks so much.
That made me rethink a few installations in other planes as well. If that happened during the comparatively short power bursts of line of sight flight ... My last flight was 24 minutes at high throttle settings, FPVing more or less sideways around the map in unexpected high winds aloft. And I didn't even worry about my ESC until now. Thanks for the wakeup call. You probably saved me a rather long hike of shame there.
As long as its getting cooled during flight you should be ok, but in this instance the battery I used back to back did not allow air around to the ESC so I almost cooked it. Now had I waited and flew another plane and then came back with another big battery I would have been ok.
@@FatGuyFliesRC True, the stationary minutes right after a flight could be more of a heat dissipation challenge than a prolonged flight would be. Still, I have made a few more vent holes after you posted that video, and fed the FC and radio gear of my next long ranger through a separate BEC in case one of the ESCs decides to burn out on me.
The motor on the UMX Turbo Timber likes to overheat on a hot summer day. Make sure to remove the motor sticker for better cooling, and give it a minute or so between flights.
And in general, check the temperature of electronics if you plan to fly multiple batteries in a row.
Always a good idea.
there's a sticker on the motor?
Thanks for the advice!
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The battery was not plugged in in this video.
Thanks for the explanation. Actually there is an E flite bulletin in regards to the issue dated Sept/2021 as to this issue. The bulletin suggests moving the ESC forward, closer to the cowl for more air flow
Yeah i did this before the bulletin came out. Thanks for he visit.
Super and timely advice , I’d bet hardly any model pilots give it a thought till disaster happens?
Thanks to much. We all must fight complacency . I knew better that to fly back to back but my mind was on the crashed Vampire.
Definitely a good learning experience. Noticed it with mine too - touched the motor after a 5 min flight flying it hard and it was very hot as well. I tend to wait 5-10 mins after each flight before flying because of it.
If it was not a design flaw they would not put out the fix video.: th-cam.com/video/PlYDoGb9t3k/w-d-xo.html its a great plane despite of this and it is the ultimate "GO TO " plane!
@@FatGuyFliesRC For sure! I have a blast with mine especially with the reverse thrust. :D
Thank you the warning
I find it ironic that 3 weeks after this video HH put out an important tech tip on how to prevent overheating video.
There is a video out telling you to move your ESC forward closer to the motor to get better airflow
Yeah I moded before their video. Glad to see they acknowledged that there was an issue.
There is a update : moving the ESC forward to get better cooling. I’m sure the next batch coming into stock soon will have the ESC in he correct place for best coiling . B. Plus always allowing your ESC to cool 1st before flying back to back is best. Buy another plane is highly suggested. 😃
yeah I put this out before they realized they had an issue. I told them about it and even linked this video to them.
IMPORTANT bulletin on manual- slide esc forward next to firewall for better cooling
Yeah I put this video out a few weeks before they conceded that there was a problem.
Thanks for the heads up. Think I will make a small air scoop out of plastic stock and put it on the forward section of battery cover. Nice little hole angled back under it ought to help. What do you think?
Sounds great! I am going to put in a vent in the hatch to allow the heat to escape and cool air in.
I don't have that plane but can you add somewhere in the front a couple cooling holes nothing too drastic but every bit helps
I have toyed with the idea of a vent in the battery hatch.
good to know
Glad to help!
Good heads up appreciate it!
You bet!
Just an idea, can you mount the lipo on its side and use some spacers to hold it in place together with the velcro ? Don't know if this would fit like that off course but if it does then you would get a lot more airflow for the ESC.
I agree but i am not sure if the battery canopy would close. i will have to see.
Thats one problem With this plane, the other problem are the cheap servo,s that Eflite used in this plane, so much for "Evolution" Only thing better is the top battery hatch
It does have some issues but flies great.
good info; thanks...
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the warning!
On another matter as I think I've seen you using an IX12.
Have you problem with holds and signal losses? I resently changed from DX8 to IX12 and having that problem with most of my planes now.
I only have a DX9. I have had ZERO problems with signal or any other issue for that matter with the radio.
@@FatGuyFliesRC The DX series are realy solid transmitters.
How hard was you flying it to overheat ?
Just asking cuz it’s another issue some have some don’t. It gets hot in the south and some people fly harder. Iv had no trouble so far. But I do intend to push this plane harder
No I flew back to back with 4s 4000s that completely cover to whole battery bay with no air flow to battery. Eflite admitted there is a design flaw with overheating and put out the fix AFTER my fix/mod. Bottom line do there fix of moving the esc forward and securing with 2 sided tape and don't fly this plane back to back. Take 5 min cool down between flights. Other than that fly her as hard as you like, she can take it.
How did you connect the 3600 battery with the xt 60 connector?just bought this plan not realizing I had to either buy new smart batteries or put another esc,thanks a lot
th-cam.com/video/0hEHCqyPc68/w-d-xo.html I made this video with you in mind.
@@FatGuyFliesRC Thanks alot ,you are awesome,recently made an adapter,when i asked you that question i didnt realize that an ec3 fits in the ic3,normally i would cut the plug off of the esc and solder a xt60 on it but didnt want to void the warranty on it,i am all set and flying the plane now,thanks again for making this video with me in mind,im sure it will help guys new to smart esc's.Happy Flying
I was thinking I use in the 4S 14.8 V 3200 50c on my turbo timber evolution what do you think?
Thats the very one I use the most in mine! Except mine is 30c.
I'm flying with 4s 3200 smart battery. Same one I used in the Original Turbo Timber and it is getting very hot. Dam Horizon for this! Do you think a motor upgrade would help?
No just more cooling needed, and leap frog your flights. one plane then a different plane then back to the first. Keep the battery hatch off in between flights to let the ESC cool!
@@FatGuyFliesRC Horizon told me to move the ESC forward out from under the battery.
That seems to be a very popular plane these days. Are they hard to fly?
Nothard to fly at all. very stable and forgiving!
Do you use EX/PO setting on your turbo timber evolution If so, what did you set it on?
I use 100% throws over 30%expo on all control surfaces. Here is an explanation video I did: th-cam.com/video/K32fnN0pPv8/w-d-xo.html
Why didnt horizon just equip it properly with the appropriate esc?
Good esc just bad positioning from the factory. The suggested mod they put out and my mods do the trick.
Has anybody had any issues with the motor being hot too? mine is around 80 degrees c after landing?
Not the motor but the ERC.
Thanks for the tip. Can this fly with a HRB 3s 5000 battery or is it too big? If i use a big battery as 3s 5000 i would only do 1 flight and let it cool down before flying her again.
It should be ok but land after about three minutes and feel , if the esc is touchable the go again. Its just important to have a battery in her than some air can get around.
Hey there Just the video I was looking for Im having the same issues with my new TT Evo. This is my 2nd weekend flying and when I flew it the first time last weekend I had a high temp warning on my ESC of 210 degrees. It was so hot that the glue melted on the battery tray. Im 4000 smart batteries. This weekend same this got a high temp warning within 2 minutes of flight og 180 degrees. I ended up cutting a small 2 inch square hole on the bottom side of the cowling but still getting a high temp warning of 180. A design flaw maybe? or a bad ESC.... I curious how many other TT Evo pilots are having the same issue.
Well one thing never fly a electric rc plane back to back. If its the only plane with then wait 5 minutes between flights. Eflite admitted there was an issue and suggested moving the ESC forward to get better airflow. Of course this was after my mod and me notifying them of the flaw. Not saying I pulled the trigger on the smoking gun but their fix came out 2 weeks after my mod went live. Also switch to the 32004s more room abound the battery for the ESC and you still get good flight times.
I put the ESC in front of the battery, cut some foam that it was on the way and put it below the ESC to make it firm. That solve my problem
Also, the motor cables you can put them on the sides with little zip ties to improve airflow
moving esc does not help on 4S.....96 degrees C and raising !!! poor design !!!
Well i am sorry your having issues, 240 degrees the ESC goes into thermal shut down. i agree this is a problematic design. A cooling fan would be a fix beyond installing the vent that I did.
@@FatGuyFliesRC 140c ?
110c. 240 Fahrenheit
I use a 4cell 2200 so i never have this issue
No you should not, plenty of room around that battery to cool your ESC. But with the big 3600 s I was using which are even bigger than my 4000 Spektrums there was no room around them so the ESC could hardly vent at all. So my point was to just be carefull with bigger sized batteries.
@@FatGuyFliesRC i fly comfortably about 6 to 8 min on a 4 cell 2200 I float around bush plane, stol flying and its so enjoyable