This was actually not the first time this happened. During the George Allen era, Washington routinely dealt the same draft pick two and sometimes even three times. The NFL finally resorted to revising its Constitution and Bylaws and, more importantly, Pete Rozelle hired a guy whose primary job it was to track draft choices and who held them. Nowadays it's done with a simple database, but back then? They had a guy on their payroll just for the purpose of keeping draft picks in order.
There REALLY needs to be a video on how Allen was allowed by the NFL to literally steal Dave Butz away from the Cards. Makes this trade seem fair and honest.
If I was the NFL I would have given the Bengals the 2nd RD pick. After all, the Bengals were trading for the conditional pick, not the Broncos actual pick.
The NBA would find a way to figure it out. We fans wouldn’t have a clue, but it would result in a team drafting a Serbian swingman we’ve never heard of.
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DeBerg has to be one of the most underrated QB's of all time. Kept Joe Montana on the bench. Kept John Elway on the bench. Had one of the strongest arms the NFL ever saw. Played for about, off the top of my head, 75 years or so....
More people shoulda kept Elway on the bench. He was ass for his first 10 seasons... and was selected to 4 probowls despite it, just based of his name recognition.
@@tookmyjob Oh, yeah, ISTR Peyton Manning saying he studied DeBerg's play action mechanics. He might have been the absolute best at that aspect of the game that I ever saw. He just seemed to have a real knack for consistently landing at the wrong place/wrong time, at least as far as his own career was concerned.
@JBSptfn He didn't have sexy QB stats of quarterbacks in his own days. Not even close. He got to the probowl on a seaons he threw 13 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. QBs put up better numbers in the 60's.
In a two game stretch late in his rookie season (including the Colts game) Elway had 5 TDs and one INT. In his other 9 games he threw for 2 TDs and 13 INTs.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, that 1983 Colts defense was respectable, as was the team's 7-9 record, considering that between 1978-1986 the Colts didn't have too many respectable things going on.
Amazing video....most certainly the weirdest draft trade in NFL history I've ever heard. How could so many bright people who have jobs to be sure this doesn't happen let this happen? Sometimes, it's incredible what can fall through the cracks and pass by so many people.
Never will forget the image of DeBerg when he was with the Dolphins at the end of his career... Winning games... all bloody ... his face was a bloodbath.. and he still threw td passes...
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Also, don’t trades have to be approved by the NFL after the two teams agree to a trade? Seems like a cursory glance would show the Broncos literally didn’t have a third round pick to give to the Bengals. The NFL should have forced them to restructure the deal immediately, not wait to see how much DeBerg played in 1984.
There was a process in place here, but it somehow slipped through that process. The process was born in the 1970's, when George Allen dealt away Washington's picks sometimes two and three times. See my post here for details on that story.
Wow, so basically the Broncos fleeced the Bengals like they were pool hall hustlers, and the league was like "eh...just give 'em a 5th rounder Idk." I can't imagine this would go over nearly as well in modern times lol; at least the Bengals didn't suffer.
@Leroy Brown ...so they were fleeced of a pick, the pick they didn't get in 1985; just because the pick was replaced later through league intervention doesn't mean they weren't fleeced of it initially. Thanks for reiterating what I had said while somehow disagreeing lol.
not a fleece as that requires intent, basically denver thought the conditional pick wouldn't be a 2nd rd pick and would be a 3rd so they dealt the "3rd" from that deal. A mistake that was based on that conditional requirement that both teams felt was never going to convey
@Leroy Brown dude he literally contradicted you. No one got fleeced. The Bengals got the third for the next year and an additional pick for it being a year late.
It worked though? That era of Bengals were incredibly dominant, at their lowest they were still a top 10 team in the league at any point in that decade. Two SB appearances, etc. The Bengals of the 80's were known to be a juggernaut of a team - however the 90's ruined their reputation to this very day.. Perhaps Burrow and the new young coach can change that; Their fans deserve it as much or more than any other team in all of sports.
The Bengals after the 83 season had the #1 and #7 picks in the 84 draft. But, the ended up with the #7, #16, and #28 picks in the 1st round. They got two other lower round picks, when they trade the #1 pick to NE for #16 and #28. Pete Koch and Brian Blados were bust to decent players. But, we know about Hundley. I wonder if they had to do things all over again, would they have made that deal?
One thing to note is that the Bengals in the 80s were not yet the Bungles. They were in two Super Bowls and if it wasn't for cool Joe Montana, they might have won both.
If Elway had finished his rookie season with twice as many INTs as TD passes in today's NFL, he'd have been traded away in the offseason, rookie year or no rookie year.
Apples and oranges when comparing QB stats of today to those nearly 40 years ago - especially for rookies. A QB that had a TD-INT ratio of 1:1 back then was considered acceptable and 2:1 was elite territory. A TD:INT ratio of 2:1 today would be considered marginal, at best. Hell, Ken Stabler is in the HOF with more career picks than TD's.
@@dondajulah4168 Even by the standards of that time Elway stunk, and sports media at that time were saying so. Also, Marino was a rookie that same season and was so great he made the Pro Bowl off just 9 starts.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, he did stink even for his time, but the expectations for a rookie QB were much lower back then (although it was thought the transition to the pros would be easier for Elway coming from a passing offense at Stanford in a passing conference as well as having a dad who was a collegiate head coach). There were plenty of people that wanted to see Elway fail because of what he pulled with the Colts and signing the minor league contract with the Yankees. I personally thought he was overrated his first 10-12 years in the league but I also think that if the Broncos had put him on the trading block, there would have been plenty of takers even with his disastrous rookie season. His talent level was just that high that even a crappy rookie season would have barely put a dent in his value for plenty of NFL teams.
Wow, old Steve DeBerg looked sharp in his creamsicle uniform. I wouldn't mind seeing a video about DeBark who lost a starting job to Joe Montana & John Elway! Not to mention Vinny Testaverde & Steve Krieg. Plus DeBerg played until he was almost Brady's age.
This trade goes to show the difference the draft was perceived back then. No way this trade slips by now. Heck some fan would notice that Denver didn’t have a third round pick nowadays and the nfl would not want to make a mockery of its draft as it is big money for them nowadays when back then if it was even televised it was on a weekday morning on a little known cable channel called ESPN . I know this because growing up on the 80s my mom would let me skip school to watch the draft
@@DolFan316 she was a teacher too and those were the only days I would call in sick all year. I would have perfect attendance but for the Thursday and Friday of draft week. I also had to be on the honor roll to do so . So guess what I was always on the honor roll all thru high school
Damn, I honestly never knew that the Broncos changed their uniform color scheme so drastically.. that dominant blue helm and large blue accents on a duller orange base are so much better of a color scheme than the near-solid orange they changed too.
@@shinola facts! The modern broncos color scheme is so bad comparatively.. Why would they have moved on from those eye catching blue helmets and blue accents/color bands? One could only guess..
Hearing about those 1980s Broncos teams really brings back memories. I was born in 1982, and some of my earliest conscious memories involve the Broncos.
In hindsight a team would've been better off trading picks from the '84 draft away. One of the worst draft classes in modern NFL history, with zero Hall Of Famers.
Mike brown and the bengals ain’t cheap they just enjoy practicing outside in that nice Ohio weather keeps them game ready When they ain’t injured... God I hate my favorite team sometimes
The reality is, the league should have forced Denver to swap that 2nd rounder for Cincinnati's 3rd that very year. DeBerg doing well doesn't change what actual pick was being traded, only the end value based on his exceeding expectations.
@@nicholassmith479 it’s almost like Cornelius Bennett who refused to since with indyNOPLACE, got traded to the Bills in the Dickerson deal. Then later in his career, played for indyNOPLACE. Both got a paycheck from teams they refused to sign with.
I was looking at the Redskins drafts in the 1970s with Allen as the coach, their first pick would be in the 5th or 6th round! That’s the Over the Hill gang for ya.
@@tookmyjob It's honestly amazing that the lack of any real drafts by them from this time period didn't completely sink them once Allen was gone; I can't imagine a team purposely passing on high-end young talent for almost a decade and then being one of the best franchises in the league just 5 years later in today's NFL.
@@SteelerFanInRI Only because Bobby Beathard continued to trade first round picks once he became GM of the TFKAR. OJG9 made a couple of videos about what Beathard did. Yet another public service provided by (sing along with me) the unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian.
The Broncos should’ve been forced to give up that 2nd as punishment for dealing a 3rd that they KNEW they DIDN'T have. It would’ve helped keep teams more honest.
Back then a team held the rights to a draft choice until a week or so before the next year’s draft. So the Bengals were not up against a deadline when they traded him. Look at how the Clowns drafted Ron Brown in 1983 then traded him to the LA Rams right before the 84 draft. Brown was a world class sprinter and wanted to run in the Olympics. Back then if you were a pro in one sport you couldn’t run in the Olympics. The Clowns being Clowns drafted him 2nd round I think, despite knowing he wanted to run in the 84 Olympics.
The deadline wasn't until a week or so before the following draft. The deadline was the day of the draft, and quite possibly the instant the draft began. The Eagles drafted injured Miami quarterback Craig Erickson in the fifth round one year. He didn't sign. They negotiated til the very last minute, and he then re-entered the next draft and was picked by the Bucs in round four.
@@bunpeishiratori5849 The actual proof is the Ron Brown example. He was traded by the Clowns to the LA Rams on April 27, 1984. The 84 Draft was held on May 1-2, so, that's three days before the draft. But, whether the deadline was a week or right before the draft, the point is in the video, there was no deadline for the Bengals to sign Hundley before that trade with the Broncos was made.
They did, the problem is they still have to work out the actual “conditions”. It’s like asking someone for a favor and they say “yea I’ll help you on one condition”, and then they just walk away. You have to tell me the condition ahead of time so that we know 1what the actual terms of our agreement are 2 (what they didn’t do here) if I actually have the means to MEET those conditions, otherwise we need new conditions
DeBurg has a story think he played for haft the teams in the league and for a haft century. Ya! take that Tom you will never play for haft the team's but I guess he's got the haft century thing going!
The Bengals were literally a top 5 NFL franchise for that entire decade. Of course even though they went to two superbowls that decade, only losing to an epic game ending drive by Joe Montana, they did lose. But even to almost win is saying a lot because both times they had to play the then hands down #1 NFL dynasty, which would only be surpassed when Brady/Belichek dynasty came along. As well as winning one of the most epic and historical divisional games of all time; simply known as; "The Freezer Bowl." They developed the West Coast Offense and three coaches that came through their building went on to be first ballot Hall of Famers. You're out of your element Donny.
@@RobVollat you’re out of your mind. It is in the bottom five of all pro franchises and has been for 40 years. Sur they made two super bowl runs, but they haven’t done much. Look at there draft picks over the last 30 years, just pathetic. Mike brown is the idiot son of a legend.
This was actually not the first time this happened. During the George Allen era, Washington routinely dealt the same draft pick two and sometimes even three times. The NFL finally resorted to revising its Constitution and Bylaws and, more importantly, Pete Rozelle hired a guy whose primary job it was to track draft choices and who held them. Nowadays it's done with a simple database, but back then? They had a guy on their payroll just for the purpose of keeping draft picks in order.
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There REALLY needs to be a video on how Allen was allowed by the NFL to literally steal Dave Butz away from the Cards. Makes this trade seem fair and honest.
If I was the NFL I would have given the Bengals the 2nd RD pick. After all, the Bengals were trading for the conditional pick, not the Broncos actual pick.
The NBA would find a way to figure it out. We fans wouldn’t have a clue, but it would result in a team drafting a Serbian swingman we’ve never heard of.
EXACTLY what I was going to say. The Bengals absolutely should have gotten the second.
Boy, that "spike the ball int the ground on every single play" is your "go to" 😂😂😂 I love it everytime lol
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DeBerg has to be one of the most underrated QB's of all time. Kept Joe Montana on the bench. Kept John Elway on the bench. Had one of the strongest arms the NFL ever saw. Played for about, off the top of my head, 75 years or so....
More people shoulda kept Elway on the bench. He was ass for his first 10 seasons... and was selected to 4 probowls despite it, just based of his name recognition.
DeBerg had one of the best play action fakes ever. He’d probably be regarded higher if it wasn’t for being in Tampa for those bad years.
@@tookmyjob Oh, yeah, ISTR Peyton Manning saying he studied DeBerg's play action mechanics. He might have been the absolute best at that aspect of the game that I ever saw. He just seemed to have a real knack for consistently landing at the wrong place/wrong time, at least as far as his own career was concerned.
@JBSptfn He didn't have sexy QB stats of quarterbacks in his own days. Not even close. He got to the probowl on a seaons he threw 13 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. QBs put up better numbers in the 60's.
He also is the only player in history to win s.b while as a player, off. cord. And a coach. All as a bronco
In a two game stretch late in his rookie season (including the Colts game) Elway had 5 TDs and one INT. In his other 9 games he threw for 2 TDs and 13 INTs.
The 1983 Colts had the worst defense ever assembled. Is that really a surprise?
@@devanshouse5027 Actually that was the '81 Colts, by '83 they were a bit better.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, that 1983 Colts defense was respectable, as was the team's 7-9 record, considering that between 1978-1986 the Colts didn't have too many respectable things going on.
9:45- Fulcher. Every Tecmo Super Bowl player knows that name. Interception magnet machine.
Amazing video....most certainly the weirdest draft trade in NFL history I've ever heard. How could so many bright people who have jobs to be sure this doesn't happen let this happen? Sometimes, it's incredible what can fall through the cracks and pass by so many people.
Never will forget the image of DeBerg when he was with the Dolphins at the end of his career...
Winning games... all bloody ... his face was a bloodbath.. and he still threw td passes...
He was actually the 4th Dolphins QB to play that season.
He played five more years after that.
DeBerg was a good QB. Underrated imo.
Agree. Deberg was a solid QB....not great, but not terrible either.
Didn’t he back up Chandler too when The Falcons made the super bowl against the Broncos?
He was awesome play action pass in kc
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Also, don’t trades have to be approved by the NFL after the two teams agree to a trade? Seems like a cursory glance would show the Broncos literally didn’t have a third round pick to give to the Bengals. The NFL should have forced them to restructure the deal immediately, not wait to see how much DeBerg played in 1984.
There was a process in place here, but it somehow slipped through that process. The process was born in the 1970's, when George Allen dealt away Washington's picks sometimes two and three times. See my post here for details on that story.
@@mactheknife7049 Is there an OJG9 or other video to which you can link?
@@CTubeMan To what?
@@mactheknife7049 I see it now, thanks.
Wow, so basically the Broncos fleeced the Bengals like they were pool hall hustlers, and the league was like "eh...just give 'em a 5th rounder Idk." I can't imagine this would go over nearly as well in modern times lol; at least the Bengals didn't suffer.
@Leroy Brown ...so they were fleeced of a pick, the pick they didn't get in 1985; just because the pick was replaced later through league intervention doesn't mean they weren't fleeced of it initially. Thanks for reiterating what I had said while somehow disagreeing lol.
not a fleece as that requires intent, basically denver thought the conditional pick wouldn't be a 2nd rd pick and would be a 3rd so they dealt the "3rd" from that deal. A mistake that was based on that conditional requirement that both teams felt was never going to convey
Found the Raiders fan xD
@Leroy Brown dude he literally contradicted you. No one got fleeced. The Bengals got the third for the next year and an additional pick for it being a year late.
@@BreadVanVleet and as the video stated later picks are always worth less
WRONG!! You can also trade for a coach [John Gruden to Tampa Bay]
Dolphins and colts
@@reidbrinkley8652 Shula
@@beyondleftfield4470 Bill belichick to the pats
Chiefs had to give up a I believe a 2nd to get Dick Vermeil.
I honestly did not feel the sarcasm when you said "Mike Brown has never been one to skimp out."
I love the subtle digs at cheap ass Mike Brown in your vids...
It worked though? That era of Bengals were incredibly dominant, at their lowest they were still a top 10 team in the league at any point in that decade. Two SB appearances, etc.
The Bengals of the 80's were known to be a juggernaut of a team - however the 90's ruined their reputation to this very day.. Perhaps Burrow and the new young coach can change that; Their fans deserve it as much or more than any other team in all of sports.
The Bengals after the 83 season had the #1 and #7 picks in the 84 draft. But, the ended up with the #7, #16, and #28 picks in the 1st round. They got two other lower round picks, when they trade the #1 pick to NE for #16 and #28. Pete Koch and Brian Blados were bust to decent players. But, we know about Hundley. I wonder if they had to do things all over again, would they have made that deal?
Hunley’s like there’s going to be this guy. His name is JJ Watt. There going to pay him a butt ton of cash. So pay up! Lol
The NFL didn't punish Denver? Were the rules for these types of trades changed? Can it happen again?
One thing to note is that the Bengals in the 80s were not yet the Bungles. They were in two Super Bowls and if it wasn't for cool Joe Montana, they might have won both.
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I loved the NFL then. Now, it's unwatchable to me.
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Washington did that in the George Allen years in the 70s
Liked and Subbed (with bell's on in anticipation).
These are very well done
“He was asking for $500,000”
Good lord don’t tell this poor guy what Dak Prescott makes every season
That's a little under 1.4 mil in today's money. It's what Tee Higgins makes for comparison.
If Elway had finished his rookie season with twice as many INTs as TD passes in today's NFL, he'd have been traded away in the offseason, rookie year or no rookie year.
Apples and oranges when comparing QB stats of today to those nearly 40 years ago - especially for rookies. A QB that had a TD-INT ratio of 1:1 back then was considered acceptable and 2:1 was elite territory. A TD:INT ratio of 2:1 today would be considered marginal, at best. Hell, Ken Stabler is in the HOF with more career picks than TD's.
And the Broncos traded FOR Steve DeBerg while he had 37 career TD's against 60 picks so that kind of blows a hole in your theory.
@@dondajulah4168 Even by the standards of that time Elway stunk, and sports media at that time were saying so. Also, Marino was a rookie that same season and was so great he made the Pro Bowl off just 9 starts.
@@DolFan316 Yeah, he did stink even for his time, but the expectations for a rookie QB were much lower back then (although it was thought the transition to the pros would be easier for Elway coming from a passing offense at Stanford in a passing conference as well as having a dad who was a collegiate head coach).
There were plenty of people that wanted to see Elway fail because of what he pulled with the Colts and signing the minor league contract with the Yankees. I personally thought he was overrated his first 10-12 years in the league but I also think that if the Broncos had put him on the trading block, there would have been plenty of takers even with his disastrous rookie season. His talent level was just that high that even a crappy rookie season would have barely put a dent in his value for plenty of NFL teams.
Wow, old Steve DeBerg looked sharp in his creamsicle uniform. I wouldn't mind seeing a video about DeBark who lost a starting job to Joe Montana & John Elway! Not to mention Vinny Testaverde & Steve Krieg. Plus DeBerg played until he was almost Brady's age.
This trade goes to show the difference the draft was perceived back then. No way this trade slips by now. Heck some fan would notice that Denver didn’t have a third round pick nowadays and the nfl would not want to make a mockery of its draft as it is big money for them nowadays when back then if it was even televised it was on a weekday morning on a little known cable channel called ESPN .
I know this because growing up on the 80s my mom would let me skip school to watch the draft
Seems like you had the coolest mom ever. I had a cool mom too but she was a teacher so skipping school was not an option for me.
@@DolFan316 she was a teacher too and those were the only days I would call in sick all year. I would have perfect attendance but for the Thursday and Friday of draft week. I also had to be on the honor roll to do so . So guess what I was always on the honor roll all thru high school
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Damn, I honestly never knew that the Broncos changed their uniform color scheme so drastically.. that dominant blue helm and large blue accents on a duller orange base are so much better of a color scheme than the near-solid orange they changed too.
You can trade a coach also. Gruden to the Bucs
Plus, didn’t the Jets get some draft picks from New England after the whole Belichik fiasco?
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I don't care what anyone says, I like the Bucs old uniforms!!!
The Broncos, too. When they do their alternate uniforms with the current dark blue helmets and 80’s logo, that’s a classy look.
Same. I want to see Brady in the creamsicle and Bucco Bruce on the helmet
@@shinola facts! The modern broncos color scheme is so bad comparatively.. Why would they have moved on from those eye catching blue helmets and blue accents/color bands? One could only guess..
Broncos featured in every other one of your videos, which i'm ok with!
Hearing about those 1980s Broncos teams really brings back memories.
I was born in 1982, and some of my earliest conscious memories involve the Broncos.
I am SO confused
In hindsight a team would've been better off trading picks from the '84 draft away. One of the worst draft classes in modern NFL history, with zero Hall Of Famers.
Mike brown and the bengals ain’t cheap they just enjoy practicing outside in that nice Ohio weather keeps them game ready
When they ain’t injured...
God I hate my favorite team sometimes
I see we have another Pat McAfee fan here.
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The reality is, the league should have forced Denver to swap that 2nd rounder for Cincinnati's 3rd that very year. DeBerg doing well doesn't change what actual pick was being traded, only the end value based on his exceeding expectations.
Huntley was basically a bust. He got the blame for Timmy Smith running over the Broncos defense in that SB. Much of the blame was deserved.
Funny thing, I remember him being a coach on the Bengals staff later on.
@@nicholassmith479 it’s almost like Cornelius Bennett who refused to since with indyNOPLACE, got traded to the Bills in the Dickerson deal. Then later in his career, played for indyNOPLACE. Both got a paycheck from teams they refused to sign with.
@@Lawomenshoops Hundley should not even be mentioned in the same breath with Bennett
If you trade a pick you don’t have then it should be the next highest pick the team has. Keep them from getting ahead of themselves in the future.
Trading away another organization's pick -> instant legend & HOF :D
DeBerg was good in tecmo
That #1 pick became Bo Jackson.
2:36 - clearly he did not have two feet in
Thank God for replay review. Not only did the receiver not try to drag his second foot, he didnt even shorten his stride LMAO.
“Worse than if he just spiked the ball into the ground on every single play.”
George Allen traded picks his team didn’t own more than once.
I was looking at the Redskins drafts in the 1970s with Allen as the coach, their first pick would be in the 5th or 6th round! That’s the Over the Hill gang for ya.
@@tookmyjob It's honestly amazing that the lack of any real drafts by them from this time period didn't completely sink them once Allen was gone; I can't imagine a team purposely passing on high-end young talent for almost a decade and then being one of the best franchises in the league just 5 years later in today's NFL.
@@SteelerFanInRI Only because Bobby Beathard continued to trade first round picks once he became GM of the TFKAR. OJG9 made a couple of videos about what Beathard did. Yet another public service provided by (sing along with me) the unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian.
I was going to comment the same thing, Allen was infamous for this.
I think one of the reasons I never thought much of Elway is because I watched a lot of his early work and he SUCKED.
Except for carrying three teams to the Super Bowl that otherwise had no business being there.
The Broncos should’ve been forced to give up that 2nd as punishment for dealing a 3rd that they KNEW they DIDN'T have. It would’ve helped keep teams more honest.
literally 1984
Back then a team held the rights to a draft choice until a week or so before the next year’s draft. So the Bengals were not up against a deadline when they traded him.
Look at how the Clowns drafted Ron Brown in 1983 then traded him to the LA Rams right before the 84 draft. Brown was a world class sprinter and wanted to run in the Olympics. Back then if you were a pro in one sport you couldn’t run in the Olympics. The Clowns being Clowns drafted him 2nd round I think, despite knowing he wanted to run in the 84 Olympics.
The deadline wasn't until a week or so before the following draft. The deadline was the day of the draft, and quite possibly the instant the draft began. The Eagles drafted injured Miami quarterback Craig Erickson in the fifth round one year. He didn't sign. They negotiated til the very last minute, and he then re-entered the next draft and was picked by the Bucs in round four.
@@bunpeishiratori5849 The actual proof is the Ron Brown example. He was traded by the Clowns to the LA Rams on April 27, 1984. The 84 Draft was held on May 1-2, so, that's three days before the draft.
But, whether the deadline was a week or right before the draft, the point is in the video, there was no deadline for the Bengals to sign Hundley before that trade with the Broncos was made.
Denver and Cincinnati. 2 teams with the SHITTIEST Front Offices in NFL HISTORY.
David Fulcher was awesome
it was also the year of the strike
Go, Broncos!!!
Really wanted to watch this video but I couldn't hear anything with my volume maxed.
Stupid of NFL to approve an impossible trade!
So this was the weirdest, but not the strangest, since the strangest was between the Lions and Saints. Got it.
Why the hell didn't they just trade the conditional pick instead of saying it's a 3rd rounder? Is there a rule against that or something?
They did, the problem is they still have to work out the actual “conditions”. It’s like asking someone for a favor and they say “yea I’ll help you on one condition”, and then they just walk away. You have to tell me the condition ahead of time so that we know 1what the actual terms of our agreement are 2 (what they didn’t do here) if I actually have the means to MEET those conditions, otherwise we need new conditions
Mr. Elway. 0.0
DeBurg has a story think he played for haft the teams in the league and for a haft century. Ya! take that Tom you will never play for haft the team's but I guess he's got the haft century thing going!
His best years were late in his career with the Chiefs.
You can trade for a coach.
John gruden
Sreve Deberg should be in the hall of fame.
You're a funny guy
@@dondajulah4168 thank you, sir.
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Another pathetic Ben-gals story. It’s never ending.
The Bengals were literally a top 5 NFL franchise for that entire decade. Of course even though they went to two superbowls that decade, only losing to an epic game ending drive by Joe Montana, they did lose. But even to almost win is saying a lot because both times they had to play the then hands down #1 NFL dynasty, which would only be surpassed when Brady/Belichek dynasty came along. As well as winning one of the most epic and historical divisional games of all time; simply known as; "The Freezer Bowl." They developed the West Coast Offense and three coaches that came through their building went on to be first ballot Hall of Famers.
You're out of your element Donny.
@@RobVollat you’re out of your mind. It is in the bottom five of all pro franchises and has been for 40 years. Sur they made two super bowl runs, but they haven’t done much. Look at there draft picks over the last 30 years, just pathetic. Mike brown is the idiot son of a legend.
@@Yaz-pn9py this was in the 80s and it worked out great for them.. you obviously didn’t even listen (maybe you watched?) to the video 😂
Interesting story, but the audio makes this hard to watch. You need a new mic or to record in a different room
Did you actually say that Mike Brown normally pays...lol he never pays the players actually have to pay for their own snacks in the vending machine
You talk too fast I could not find out what the compensation and draft picks to correct the mistake.
The Bengals got a 3rd the following year 1986 and a 5th the year after that in 1987.
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