I Thought It Couldn't Get Any Worse
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my hot take: half of LeBron finals should not be used against him. for example, 2018 final, no one is beating the warriors. LeBron literally carried bench players to the final and people have the audacity to use this against him
I agree with you, 2007 he was young and alone, 2015 he was alone, 2017 and 18 Golden State was cheating.
Same thing with 2019 raptors like no team in history other than maybe the MJ bulls really have a chance to beat that team. Toronto also had one of the hardest roads to the finals this past decade
@@noblevenom2858 golden state might have without injuries
MJ would have beat the Warriors 😂
@@noblevenom2858 bro 💀
I think on sheer talent alone, the Nets were absolutely a super team. Injuries and "free thinking" derailed them.
TBH LAKERS WERE BUILT TO BE A SUPERTEAM TOO th-cam.com/video/mmSAYWNr5Kc/w-d-xo.html chek out the reaction on dis
100% the injuries to harden mattered alot
On talent alone, the Lakers were a superteam but then age and lack of chemistry hit them
@@futurehofer1564 2022? Not even close, and I'm a Laker
Jxmy has a video on this same exact subject not a few months back if I am not mistaken.
Micheal Jorbum I’m dead😂😂😂
“Retired because no more plumbers to beat” was the funniest one
Nah zions ass is bigger than lowrys😂😂
That guy was definitely a LeFlop fan. 😂
that was genuinely one of the funniest things i've ever read
Head ass. Did you see the goats he played against
@@calebcrawford2520 calm ya hatin ass down💀
Steph Curry is extremely athletic even for NBA standards. Dude's body coordination and change of direction is literally elite .
His movement was HOF
Right his stamina is off the charts
The thing people point out about him being unathletic is because he has Steve Nash Vertical. Having Difficulty in dunking even at 6’3
Athletic nut not extremely for basketball. If he had hops you could say.
@@ajye8935 he actually has decent hops. I cant recall Nash doing windmills and 360 dunks. Curry can
The Zion and Kyle Lowry one had me crying.
Lunch table debate
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Kyle booty better.
When was that
@@sfl2636 2:30
That 1st hot take reminds me of this quote:
"I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me" - Brian Scalabrine
its facts
goated
I mean he’s right. He’s the goat, Bron is top 5, and well, everyone else
@@nba6886 Said by the NBA themselves
White mamba
Steph deserves more credit for his manual dexterity, and (nowadays) infinite stamina. Those are athletic traits, too.
There has to be a guide line where we should draw the line of athleticism, everyone has different standards when it comes to athleticism and it confuses, and make miscomprehend too many times, lets look at f1 drivers, f1drivers often misunderstood by someone who doesn't care about f1, but if people know and understand about f1 drivers, people will be shocked how athletic they are
@@user-gr6uj8bc9i they just gotta press down some heavy pedrls have good reaction time and boom
@Joe mama and basketball just has to throw the ball and move the ball with hands, how easy is that
Hey what is your pfp from i think i recognize it but idk where from
Bro he doesn’t stop running
jimmy hasn't posted a video in over a month, i almost guarantee hes about to make the craziest basketball video the world has ever seen
You were kinda right
@@cactusttp_5520 lol a video about how everyone travels and carries isn't exactly the "craziest video the world has ever seen" lol still a good video cus it was 100% accurate and we all kinda forget about it cus it does make NBA more exciting
@@billblaski9523 lol yeh they b meat ridin 😂
@@billblaski9523 lmao i just watched that video, and people were saying the same shit in the comments of that video. i was thinking like yeaa it was a good video like always, but it wasnt like jimmy spent the last month making some masterpiece, and it was about travels and carries
You called it mate
The Zion and Kyle Lowry take got me 🤣🤣🤣
That take was accurate 🍑
Both links are scams
fr 💀
Fr 😂😂
Lowry >
My hot take: If Jrue Holiday played in the 90s, he'd be seen as arguably the greatest defensive PG of all time by now because the 90s was so much more defense oriented, but because of the offensive heavy era Jrue plays in now, he will be underrated as a defender in the grand scheme of things since it's so much harder these days to play that kind of defense.
Jrue plays just like GP
especially with the handcheck rule
Greatest defense seasons came after the 90’s but ok🤷🏾♂️
@@swishy_bluez gp was way faster
@@swishy_bluez not really, he is much stronger than GP and much slower, much better at using his body at a wall but doesn't have the hands of GP. Probably a mix of Dumars and Pippen.
Jimmy is the definition of the words "content creator" on this platform.
Amazing work every time he posts.
I don't think I've ever missed an upload through the years I've been subscribed.
I would really love to see what you could do in documentary format, like a 1-2 hour video. I think you would kill that.
Much love brother.
Seriously Jxmy is the goat
I like most of his videos but he is far from best. He has a lot of bad reasoning. E.g. shows graph that starts at 50 so that player with a score of 70 seems to be twice as good as player with the score of 60. He also does a lot of correlation means causation mistakes. In this video he judges a superteam by results when it should be judged by potential.
@@joskomikulicic if you judge anything on potential and not actual results, then you'd be a pretty dumb judge. Your take is absurd
@@Chris-wq3pe If you are judging a team to be a superteam by it's success then every winner is a superteam. Superteam is a stacked team that is expected to do great things. Superteams are declared before you see them play, not after. That's why Nets are currently considered a failed superteam - a superteam that failed to produce.
Forrreal brother!
More thoughts about the 70s NBA. It started with a bang when a great and charismatic NY team won a ring, and then Los Angeles and New York again. But much of the rest of the decade was smaller markets (Milwaukee, Seattle, Portland, Golden State, Washington). There was no dominant team. Kareem was the best player, but he was media poison and had no serious rival (though he might have if Walton had stayed healthy). Two of the most exciting players (Walton and David Thompson) flamed out early. The style of play was great - culminating in the Celtic-Lakers rivalry in the 80s - but fewer people were watching. Popularity goes in cycles. The Bird-Magic, Lakers-Celtics rivalry, Jordan and the dominant Bulls, and the league and media finding their commercial stride made the difference, not the caliber of players.
Great summary of the decade 👍
Who actually thinks that curry is unathletic though 😭 this man runs around the court and gets back to defense on time on most plays
I never understood how athletes could be considered unathletic. Everybody is running constantly.
I guess they don’t realize the many components of athleticism. They’re referring to explosiveness and pure speed/strength .
Most of us that watch these videos are athletic. I don't think I'm more athletic than a nonathletic Steph Curry.
he can literally windmill
@@Fencellisk uou said it best. A lot of us here probably play a lotta basketball but there is no way any of us are as close to athleticism as a Luka Doncic or Steph curry
The 2021 Nets were 100% a superteam. Their "All-Star," James Harden, was their MVP. He was the best performer in the entire first round of the 2021 playoffs. And people still (for whatever reason) considered him their third best player. That was a superteam.
Harden was arguably their best player that year so it makes absolutely no sense 😂
I saw this take and thought this comment section was making hot takes
Not a super hot one since Harden got slandered too much, but no way you call James Harden the MVP of that nets era when Durant is there, even though Harden showed out for that first round
@@Janon743 Harden played more games than KD and was really close to playing more games than Kyrie. He was there for only a season and a half. He was definitely the MVP of that Nets superteam.
@@YouScareMe1 still, Kd carried them in the playoffs when both of them got injured. Harden was an insane playmaker tho, so when he left, Nash had no other game plans other than to pass it to kd and hope he scores 🤣
@@Janon743 There isa difference between best player and MVP for the team. Although KD is better player, Harden did more for the team in that season, so Id agree with the rest
Thanks jxmy, for consistently putting out the best nba content on TH-cam. Every time you release a video I’m absolutely pumped
I've gotta say the same! I discovered this YT channel some weeks ago and I'm absolutely addicted to it!
U should be pumped for Jesus..
@@juicychicken8100 well, I am. I follow Jesus and I love Him. But it's not a problem to enjoy good videos like these ones lol
I low-key think if you give Prime Ben Simmons (2018-19 Simmons) Curry shooting, he would be hands down the greatest player to ever play ball. And minus the fact that he is more loyal to FaZe than the NBA. He could do everything except shoot threes. Dunking, Defense, Playmaking, he had it all. The only thing he was missing was that dime. Give him Curry's shooting, easy best player ever. Even with Ray Allens shooting he'd still be the best. Change my mind.
@@juicychicken8100 Nobody pumps with Jesus
I like your takes, except on the super teams. Super teams are based off the perception of the players involved, not looking at their combined +/- in hindsight. If that were the case, super teams could never fail because you would only consider a team super if 3 players reached a certain +/-.
i like that and agree 100 percent. it reminds me the lakers with shaq, kobe, the mailman, and the glove. yea karl and gary were older, but thats still a super team lol and they made the finals. they lost and i guess in hindsight, based off jimmys take in this video, they arent a superteam. but they absolutely are. just like barkley, drexler, and hakeem. kyrie was the first overall pick in the draft, lebron was a former first pick, and love was a first round pick. all 3 all stars, and all 3 meeting up on one team. it wasnt like they were all drafted by the same team, stayed on the same team, and became great together. and that shit with the lakers with ad, russ, lebron, etc etc. yea that was created to be a super team. it just didnt pan out that way lol
@@gdirty7380exactly
Yeah it was kinda like he was intentionally trying to create a bad hot take to end his video. That's the only reason why I could think of we he said the Cavs weren't a super team or the Nets weren't a super team. The way I look at super team is a collection of 3 all star talents with at least one of them being a superstar and the ultimate goal is to win the finals with little to no resistance. The Cavs definitely fell into that category as well as the Nets. +/- ain't got nothing to do with it. Them failing to win has nothing to do with it.
I disagree. You’re practically saying any team that is just dominant, no matter their actual talent compared to actual super teams are considered super teams. Dominant does not equal super, the collection of their talent is still something that can be compared to teams overall. The warriors were a super team, because they were dominant with actual competition. Their sum of talent was just greater, and that’s just how it is.
@@trucc412 I never said anything of the sort. I said that "super teams" are created based on the perception of the players involved before even seeing them perform. In a way it is an arbitrary categorization. If a team signed 3 guys that are perceived as superstars, that team would be perceived as a superteam, even before they played a game. Whether or not they live up to that label is another discussion.
"Michael Jordan was carried by the Bulls" has to be the most egregious take I have ever seen
He was carried that's true
@@jimmywoods6301 yeah he carried yo baby ass
He was great coaching and the team build around him making him better u put him in Lebron situation where he had terrible coaching and terrible team building around for the first 8 years of his career MJ wouldn’t even make it to the finals with all bench players
great coaching, team built around him, has pippen
More than LeBron over Mike Tyson in the ring???
I believe a super team is determined when it is formed, not after we see how it has worked out.
exactly, the 2022 lakers and the big three nets were considered super teams, they just failed at winning
What determines whether it's a"superteam"🤔?
@100yen So can u tell me or not🤨?
@@theALMIGHTY987 a team who has multiple super stars, basically 3 most of the time
2022 lakers had LJ, AD and wetsbrook, they even had Carmelo Anthony who is a big name, so they are definitely a super team
Jimmy has stated this before as well. This is the 1st time I've heard him say otherwise
I’m getting nervous. Why hasn’t he posted in over a month??
Hes probably waiting for the nba season to start so he can have content and statistics to dissect
@@Kappah. yep and also imagine he could use a break since it’s the slow time taking advantage
Quality over quantity
@@GodIsTheOnlyWay12 well it used to be quality and quantity!!! That’s why he is the Goat!
@@maxdraper21 true. Nice point
If there was one duo that would be scary to come up against it would've been Barkley and MJ on the same side. Those two would never lose and get inside the opponents heads. What a nasty combo that would've been.
11:50 You're right about all the others, but the 2021 Nets were definitely a super team. They just didn't perform like people expected.
I remember people saying stuff like “you can’t use them in 2K” etc like the Warriors previously.
Most unlucky team aot it’s just a fact atp
Lakers fans were calling the 22 Lakers a superteam, so........
@@futurehofer1564 and it didn’t show up in practise. Nets were still a great team, it’s arguable that they were a super team who weren’t successful because they had so many great players but didn’t work as a team well enough.
They got injured fuck u mean they didn't perform like expected?
The last take is definitely quite skewed in categorization. When the Nets were assembled they were definitely considered a super team. D-Mitch and D-Book are also generally not considered superstars.
they were a superteam by default. The fact that it didn't work out because of injuries blah blah blah is another story. Also as you said not every 'superstar' is the same and neither is every Allstar. 2016 Lebron is the same as d book or any other guy on these 'supeteams' except maybe giannis? 2016 kyrie the same as Rudy mf gobert khris middleton etc? Please. Context needs to be taken into account
What made them a"superteam"🤔? I've seen Harden flame out, Kd riding others waves 🌊, & Kyrie flopped as a centerpiece player!!
@@theALMIGHTY987 3 1st ballot hall of famers and the only reason Kyrie won't be 1st ballot is because they don't like him
@@UnplayedGaming They let anyone into the HOF, I'll b there one day, that's not saying much!
Key word is assembled. This video here is basically saying that even though the players were good enough to be considered a superteam when they were assembled, he's saying you can look at their stats at conclusion to tell if they were or not.
That's very skewed logic
How bout if the stats look bad it doesn't mean they weren't a superteam, it means they underperformed
Like the olajuwon Barkley pippen rockets.
People still call them a superteam.
By his logic, people are full of ish
Patrick Ewing was one of the best jump shooting centers of all time as well. He was ahead of his time in that regard, and would probably have developed a three, if he was playing today. He got a lot of flack at the time, because back then, they discouraged centers from being away from the basket, but as he got older, he evolved his game to include a consistent jump shot which became an important aspect of his arsenal.
Funny how the 90s great centers had decent jumpshot: Ewing, Robinson and hakeem
Waiting on Wembanyama post
“If this was the criteria for a super team, then this means the 2021 Nets were a super team.”
Yeah, they were Jimmy.
Fr, pretty sure these thr nets were considered a super team
even the 2022 lakers were a super team... that failed miserably
@@mohammadalfattal2902 sucks that we saw LeGM, Westbrick, and Anthony "Crack" Davis instead
@@El_Tony_C I agree
Such a wasted potential, and Jimmy was definitely wrong for not calling them a super team because they were and they failed at that
@@mohammadalfattal2902 no they weren't no one is in thier prime
The Nets take is a little disingenuous. Before the rule change James Harden was still considered a bonafide superstar & everybody called that team a super team. In hindsight trying to say they weren't one only after they failed doesn't track. That was a super team.
They were only a “super team” on paper a lot of sidekicks who believe they are superstars
What made Harden a"bonafide"superstar? I've seen him throw the towel in on teams, NTM he always comes up short in big moments!
@@theALMIGHTY987 exactly, harden was considered a superstar by people lacking any understanding of sports. Same goes for westbrook
@@MatteoRuberto Ppl gave them the moniker prematurely. I believe they got caught up in the media hype.
@@MatteoRuberto Iciest take in the thread. Harden 100% showed he could be the best player on a team contending for a championship, and I absolutely hate Harden for all his annoying flopping, flailing antics and whiny personality on the court. That's the definition of a superstar. You can definitely argue he no longer fits the definition, but entering the Nets tenure calling Harden anything but a superstar is insanely revisionist.
At 8:20 barrymcockiner makes an appearance. Gotta love the man posting bangers and nfl weekly reviews. That’s all, another great bud Jimmy
I noticed bro got Barry in here 😭
Two GOATs of sports TH-cam
With all the good young players I'm sure years later we will see this as one of the best eras of basketball ever seen.
Nope
100%
The Jordan "Stop it" edit clip gets me every time. Thanks for making me laugh while still coming with so great of a content!
LOL , especially when he includes the "get help" LMAO
Facts one of the best lowkey when Timed right
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1987-88 featured at least 22 Hall of Fame players: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Moses Malone, Isiah Thomas, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Barkley, Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Alex English, Patrick Ewing, Adrian Dantley, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Reggie Miller.
It was one of the greatest seasons in NBA history as well: MVP race between MJ, Bird, & Magic; MJ as the first MVP to also win the DPOY, the first DPOY to win the scoring title, and the first player to accumulate 200+ steals w/ 100+ blocks in a season twice; Bird becoming the first player to be in the 50-40-90 club twice; MJ vs 'Nique iconic dunk contest; Bird's legendary 3pt contest threepeat; Bird vs 'Nique Game 7 duel; Isiah's sprained ankle game; Lakers fulfilling Riley's repeat guarantee (ending the league's drought since 1969); Worthy recording the first ever Game 7 triple-double; Stockton finally unleashed from the bench to begin his nine consecutive assists titles along w/ racing MJ & A. Robertson (all-time spg leader) for the steals title; and so on and so forth.
Basketball in general was also a phenomenon in 1992: The Dream Team, Jordan's shrug game, Magic's last ASG, Bird's epic final triple-double, Rodman's 1530 rebounds, Pat Riley's Knicks vs Phil Jackson's Bulls rivalry begins, Laettner's perfect game w/ famous buzzer beater, Michael Jackson's "Jam" music video, etc...
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I didnt even realise that so many iconic moments happened in 87-88 season.
Upon further research, I missed 7 other Hall of Famers: Dennis Johnson, Sidney Moncrief, Maurice Cheeks, Ralph Sampson, Bernard King, Chris Mullin, & Artis Gilmore (though he played very limited minutes). Still plenty of candidates such as DPOY legends Alvin Robertson & Mark Eaton.
I love how he says “if you even say 2020 Lakers and super team in the same sentence you are a sick individual”as he says them in the same sentence😂
Jimmy where r you man?
There is some crazy revisionist history going on here. The 2021 Nets and 2022 Lakers were definitely superteams. They may have been failed superteams but superteams nonetheless. The Nets had 2 MVP winners and a perennial All-Star. The Lakers had 2 of the top 10 players in the league and Westbrook who at the time was still seen as an All-Star caliber player.
Yep i agree he had a great point on the last part but the examples he gave were not helping his case too much
2022 Lakers were not a superteam and Russ was not an All-Star caliber player. Anybody that watched him over his last couple seasons with Houston and Washington knew he was on his decline and his play over last season all but solidified that. He was awful and AD was hurt for most of the season anyway.
the lakers are NOT a superteam... not AT ALL. what super team goes 42-30 or 33-49? the only time this team won the finals is the bubble when the league was just BAD. russel westbrook was TERRIBLE. LeBron carried but did not really carry fully. 80% of teams in almost any decent era would easily just beat the lakers. AD was also on and off.
No one considered the Lakers a super team. Only maybe if you're a casual who thinks Westbrook was the same as he was in 2017. A clearly washed player isn't a super team
@@AQGOAT24 Kendrick Perkins: The Lakers could win 70 games…
I lost it when he said Ben Simmons without his passing would be a 6’10” Pat Bev🤣
This killed me
I really forget he's 6'10". Feels smaller...
@@GarrettBroadnax shit just doesn't matter honestly lol it's sad
@@GarrettBroadnax pause
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There should be a series.
The Nets are a superteam on paper. certainly heading into the first year. Prime KD, nearly a prime playmaking Harden (or so we all thought), and a third-team all-nba type guy in Kyrie. plenty of smart people thought this was just as much top end talent as we've ever seen on a single team
Not just on paper. They were absolutely destroying the Bucks before the injuries. They were 13-3 when playing together during the regular season. Injuries screwed them but they definitely were a superteam by every measure.
On paper? Boston and Bucks were getting destroyed. It wasn't until Harden and Kyrie both got injured during the playoffs. Harden was forced to play again when Kyrie was out due to an injury. The rest is history when Kd stepped on the line with that 3.
3rd team kyrie is selling him short. its not like the guy had two 50 point games right after becoming a net
Calling Kyrie a 3rd team guy is insane ngl
@@a.fields9789 fr, it's like they just started watching last year. It's obvious that some of these people only look at the news and espn but don't watch live games
That “NBA fan” at 8:00 is famous sports troll Barry McCockiner
‘famous’ would be a stretch
@@JustTrynaGetPaid ikr 100k subs is so tiny
@@thatentitythatnoonecaresab4233 it’s not but it’s also not famous.
Hey Jimmy, I don’t know if you’ve seen OTE but they’re starting to make a lot of noise could you make a video on what their team means for highschool. It’s practically a super team they’ve built which I honestly think could beat a d1 school
I low-key think if you give Prime Ben Simmons (2018-19 Simmons) Curry shooting, he would be hands down the greatest player to ever play ball. And minus the fact that he is more loyal to FaZe than the NBA. He could do everything except shoot threes. Dunking, Defense, Playmaking, he had it all. The only thing he was missing was that dime. Give him Curry's shooting, easy best player ever. Even with Ray Allens shooting he'd still be the best. Change my mind.
You good bro?
The Mavericks are an incredibly under-appreciated team. Dirk and Luka have kept Dallas competitive for 20+ years but we never get the screen time
The way y'all play is boring to watch thats why. Luka does sum amazing every game but watching one player o everything is not fun
@@hmmmmmm6901 Yeah they're literally just an even more boring version of the Harden Rockets. Luka is phenomenal, but outside of the playoffs I'm not trying to watch him iso for 40 minutes a game.
It's a curse too having a superstar like Dirk and Luka.
For most seasons, not good enough to win the chip (except for 2011).
Not bad enough to be a lottery team to get better rookies. (except for Luka)
@@hmmmmmm6901 eh, lebron was a one man show in 2018 Cleveland and people still liked watching lol. Even better example rockets team was legit just harden iso for 4 seasons and I’m pre sure they had a lot of fans
@@4purs does lebron play like Luka???
As a Blazers fan, literally all of those groups feel like a super-team after watching Dame play by himself the last 10 years
Lol
Did you forget he was playing with me? A HoF
Man needs some help. He's the modern time Reggie Miller
@@carmeloanthony5267 lmao
Blazers are terrible so that’s only natural
When man made the D-book, Simmons comparison I went, 'Man, i love this guy'.
2:33 had me literally dead😂 where did that kid come up with that lol
I appreciate the love for Hakeem. He is consistently one of the most underrated players in recent history. Very few people put him in the top 10 and he absolutely could make a case for it.
If you look at his playoff career, he might be around the 4th or 5th greatest player of all time. A rare talent who's efficiency and production increased as it mattered the most.
I think there's quite a few YTers who have him on their top 10.
Way overlooked and I think one of rings was considered the toughest championship run of all time. He was different fr. Glad to say he was on my Rockets
He's the best all-around center in league history and no one gives the Rockets shit for picking him over MJ
i normally have him around 11 or 12 cause im not puttin him over shaq duncan wilt kobe magic bird etc…
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Fr bro
Classic original comment that isn’t exactly like every other one lol
fr
@@Bmthighlights I mean tbh it’s true but ye it be in everybody comment section
True
11:24 you literally called them a superteam in the “lebron is working on his new superteam” video 😹😹😹
You’re probably the best TH-camr for entertaining basketball knowledge/facts/opinions
My hottest take: From 03-05, I said Melo was going to be a stratospheres worth better than Lebron with my whole chest lmao.
That was a hella of a hot take but ppl coming in top 5 picks saying u think one will be better isn't really that crazy
Its obviously a terrible take now with hindsight
@@Stopcommentingthesamecomments it’s not that terrible of a take. Melo could have had a better career had his ego not been as big.
He was never gonna be
@@TraphikHD na he always had lazy feet and played no defense
Cavs & Nets were super teams, they both had trades & free agent all-stars join forces. I feel like you’re sleeping on Love because he had to sacrifice so much of his game to fit LeBron & Kylie, the dude literally averaged 26 & 12 the season before coming to the Cavs, he was a monster in the paint & was forced to stand in the corner to fit in
Kyrie was good, but he was only like 23 years old, K love was a good numbers bad team player (Still amazing) but they werent superstars, not to mention their bench was atrotious until 2017 then they faced the greatest team ever and blew it up next season. Brooklyn was a super team that never got going, so I'd label them as an attempted superteam
@@SK-ph3pn They both were most certainly superstars lol.
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@@davidelsea1296 Anyone who watched that season, woudl know that Kevin love was not a superstar and Cleveland were not a big 3, Kyrie became established after that Dagger 3 and the Chip with Bron, before that he was a nobody and Lebron literally changed him as a player just like he did to AD, before him they were both regular season players with extremely high skill ceiling.
The proof is in the trade, in what era does a franchise superstar player (yes klove's stats were that good) get traded for Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett and a first round pick on a team that is about to possibly win an NBA championship next season? Also I think the Cavs were like 2-20 something W/L with Lebron out and just Kyrie in during their tenure.
But yeah fact is Klove never had it in the playoffs, for some reason in big games he just gets rattled and looks out of it, he never showed up even in games where all he had to do was be a role player, heck Tristan Thompson probably did more for that team on defense, showing up with big boards in playoffs and dirty work.
@@davidelsea1296 what’s your definition of a superstar?…
The Ben Simmons one actually made me burst out laughing.
Is it bad that i lowkey disagree with it 😭😭😭 idk maybe im off crack
I low-key think if you give Prime Ben Simmons (2018-19 Simmons) Curry shooting, he would be hands down the greatest player to ever play ball. And minus the fact that he is more loyal to FaZe than the NBA. He could do everything except shoot threes. Dunking, Defense, Playmaking, he had it all. The only thing he was missing was that dime. Give him Curry's shooting, easy best player ever. Even with Ray Allens shooting he'd still be the best. Change my mind.
@@fiix_ii ifs are a dime a dozen.
@@fiix_ii a ton of players would be the greatest of all time if they had Curry’s shooting on top of their existing skill set bro, that’s not saying much
@@zachcate7102 or even d Wade would fix him
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At least the NBA backed a bit off their political angle last season, but watching how this NFL season opened shows they didn't learn from that mistake.
@@xenocide1307 what did they do except for honor queen Elizabeth II
@@xenocide1307 df is u talking about u knew they was going hanor her
@@xenocide1307
Let me guess, you’re a republican voter
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I’ve almost always agreed with Jimmy’s takes in his vids, but his last one I have to disagree. When you take 3 players who were the best player on each of their teams the year before and combine them onto one team, that is a super team. Their plus/minus shows that adding the parts will never match up to the whole once you put them all together, since there is only one ball to share, so it is an arbitrary stat to show how super of a team they are.
Exactly
Huh man! Facts!
dude, kyrie was the only good player on that horrible cavs team ofc he's gonna be the best player out that squad, and kevin love literally played for the poverty minnesota timberwolves, literally replace kyrie & love with any other all star on their first franchises and they'll still be considered the best player in that franchise at the time
Yea he sounds like he hit a blunt by then nets n lakers were superteams they both had no leaders thats all
@Marcus Christensson True but there was a difference. Russ was on the decline already, so he was indeed nowhere near to what he used to be. KLove was placed in an entirely different role. He went from a dominant post player and first option to barely getting post-ups and standing in the corner for threes. But utilization is another factor in the question "What makes it a superteam"
that ben simmons one right at the start almost made me drop my phone immediately, there ain't no way 😂😂😂😂😂
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8:06 I’m pretty sure that’s Barry McCockiner, a fellow sports youtuber
LOL at 8:00 we got a hot take from Barry McCockiner, what a legend. This man gets everyone with his trolls.
“No more plumbers to beat”😂😂
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I disagree with the last point. Not because they didn't live up to the hype doesn't mean they were not a super team. Before the Cavs super team, Kevin Love dominated the paint, Kyrie dominated the point, and LeBron dominated the league. They underwhelmed not for lack of talent. So to me the difference between the Heat big 3 and the others is not in the word "super" but in the word "team".
Make a TH-cam channel. You’d make decent content.
For me, it’s just really hard to call a team a “super team” with only one superstar. There needs to be at least 2 for me
Then the jazz are a super team I guess 🤷♂️
I don’t think they underachieved. I don’t have them as a super team because unlike Miami, Kyrie & Love didn’t lead their teams to the playoffs. The other difference is Cleveland trading for Kevin Love, so it’s not like they got him for free. They eventually rounded out the team to get Iman & JR which then turned them into a power house, because they were Top Heavy.
This is my point.
Someone said to me that Hakeem would be a backup center in todays game. I asked if he would be a bench center behind Myles Turner and he said 100% yes. Speechless
That man needs to look up some footage.
If you took him straight from that era and put him right in todays game, he would struggle, but if he was raised around todays game, he’d still be the most skilled center of all time
Not Hakeem. But it’s quite true for a lot of centers back then. Besides, centers who can play D and stretch the floor are super valuable
Don't talk to that person anymore
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Jimmy could make a video about him having a kid and title it “We thought this was impossible”😂😂😂
I like these hot take episodes. Keep them up!
The reason the Cav’s big 3 were “originally” called a super team was because all 3 at the time were 20+ ppg players that came together to form the core of a team, no team had done that since the the Miami Heat I’m 2010 and then before that the 71-72 Lakers(go back and look they were the first real super team with Baylor, Chamberlain, West, and Goodrich) even though I believe Baylor went down even before mid-season even though some believe the old Celtics with Cousy Russell and Havlicek were a bit of a super team…regardless those Cavs initially were thought to be a super team because of stats
can't forget about the celtics with garnet ray allen and paul pierce
that was the big three super team before lebrons miami heat
lebron with the old cavs took those celtics to seven games but after losing to them twice lebron realized he needed more help to beat them and since the cavs couldn't get him better help to compete with the celtics the lakers and the spurs he went to miami
@@brucejonesillustrations8721 exactly
Yup...and Dude's going to say that Khris Middleton is an All-Star - when he gets PICKED by Giannis or Durant - and yet K. Love is a "Fringe" All- Star, when he had FAR better stats than Middleton OR Bosh when he was in Minny AND made 2 All-Star teams in a WC stacked with forwards. You can build a team offense around Irving or Love (whether you'd WANT to is something else entirely) but you can't do that with Middleton. I'll also add that while I like Chris Bosh's game and he was a starter for the EC a couple times BEFORE he went to Miami....if he were out West, he'd have been on the outside looking in during that same period of time with Dirk, KG, Duncan, Melo, Gasol, Z-Bo, & Stoudamaire out there.
@@twilitezn Love was a beast in Minnesota but he sacrificed a lot of his game to make that team work so that's why he became a "fringe all star". He if was the main guy or at least the 2nd option his numbers would go way up
@@RafitoOoO if love was the MAIN guy they not getting out the 1st rd...he got punked in the finals by draymond and kd in the post which was supposed to be his bread and butter
Calling Kevin Love a "Fringe all star" is disrespectful and lacks "context" as you said it. Love's numbers only plummeted because he joined Lebron, The year before him joining he was 2nd in BPM 3rd in PER, and 3rd in WS. In other words the 3rd best player in the league after KD and Lebron himself.
At the time Kevin love was universally considered the best power forward in the game. People trying to downplay how good he was are just trying to cover for Lebron.
This is facts. He was breaking Moses Malone records.
In four seasons prior to joining the Cavs, Love was averaging 22.9 PPG and 13.7 RPG on 45%/37%/82% on FG/3FG/FT while being an 3x All-Star with the only time he missed out on the All-Star selection was due to missing most of that season due to injury. Sure, he might've been stat stuffing in the wastelands of early 2010s Minnesota but the man was still sick.
Yet KLove failed to make play-offs for 7 seasons before joining LeBron. Context. Matters
@@1vaultdweller Yep. And Anthony Davis missed the playoffs 5 out of 7 years in NOH and was and still is considered a top 10 player when healthy. KAT missed the playoff 5 out of 7 years in Minnesota and is still considered an allstar. You dont get to scale back someones ranking when its convenient. Love was considered one of the top players before joining forces with Lebron. Thats just the truth
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This seasons top 8 is actually so interesting. The throne is kinda up for the taking for a lot of guys rn.
Every single day I’ve been waking up and instantly checking if you have uploaded and I’m now SOOO happy you can’t even comprehend it
I’m happy someone with a platform finally made this point. I’m tired of people comparing skill for skill to see who’s the better player (cherry pick their answers too) when in reality people don’t account for how valuable each skill is to the players game.
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In my opinion a superteam is based more on names than results. If you base it on results the 2020/21 jazz were a superteam but we all know they were not. This lakers team was a superteam just as the cavs, no matter what the results were, they had the big names, like you can't deny that a team of lebron, AD, russell, dwight would be a super team...
So you’re saying that ‘21 nets was not a super team? @11:51. That’s literally 3 undeniable all-stars and arguably top 25 players of this era. Definitely formidable, they just did not work out in the end with all the factors against them. (I don’t like the Nets whatsoever but that was just a wrong take)
You are right
The Ben Simmons and Devin Booker comparison made me chuckle 😂
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“If you took away Ben Simmons passing ability, he’d be a 6’10” Patrick Beverly.” 😂 He’s not wrong. And the LeBron led Miami Heat will be his best super team when it’s all said and done.
No.
Patrick Beverly has a decent shooting percentage.
Man, at least Beverly isn’t a 3-point liability💀
lol I thought at least Pat Bev can/will shoot...
Stupid take..take away shaqs height..hed be.....dumb
Beverley runs around doing nothing, when Ben plays he's top 3 DPOY contender
Where is this man
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on the athlete part, brian scalabrine said it best. "i am closer to lebron then you are to me".
The Nets were a super team just a failed one. You could hardly have selected more talented current players to be on one team but they were toxic, injured, unable to play and could not make it work
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11:23 "If you even say superteam and 2022 Lakers in the same sentence, you're a sick individual"
also Jimmy in his video "LeBron Is Working On His Next Superteam" at 9:00: "I'm really not sure how you would make the argument that this isn't a superteam?"
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The last take I don’t agree with. Looking at the context of how the team was assembled and their reputations at the time, the cavs were definitely a super team. Production after assembly doesn’t decide the super team
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@Jean-Patrice Paluku teams aren't the same as players. Stupid ass argument. A team with two free agent superstars joining it is a superteam, period. Production doesn't define shit.
Couldn’t agree more e
I disagree on your KAT take. Comparing using simply numbers removes of the context of KAT’s shooting ability, as his 3s are usually much more difficult, off the dribble, and contested, and not open catch and shoots
I also disagree with the KAT analysis. He is a true big man, while some of the players mentioned by Jimmy are not. In my opinion only Dirk Nowitzki stands up against KAT.
@@richatlarge462 Peja Stojakovic. That is all.
@@dynamicflashy peja isn’t a big lmao
@@dynamicflashy Peja, Ryan, and Matt are not thought of as big men.
I did some diving saying Peja isn't a big, but the mfkr is 6-10! Lol Peja has a small percentage higher than Kat in 3pt percentage, but Kat shoots more. Peja was a unicorn at the time, you didnt see big boys shooting, like Dirk. Cousins I think you can compare Kat to, and Kat percentage wise, is better than Cousins. I'm a Wolves fan and I am bias, but numbers don't lie sometimes. Kat does shoot a bunch of contested shots.
11:18 the music synced up to him slapping Kyries head lmfao
Nah it was just that loud
Jxmy puts sentences together so nicely
8:13 Jimmy not knowing who Barry is and calling him a random fan is the best thing ive seen today
When K.Love went to the Cavs everyone expected him to still average 20+pts/GM. Which put them in the super team category. That obviously didnt happen, but once a team is put in that narrative it's hard to break that mindset of the public/media
Not really his fault. Lebron and Kyrie are very ball dominant players who stagnate offenses.
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@@davidelsea1296 I mean they made 3 finals
@@davidelsea1296 Right, but they don't like to admit that players get worse playing with lebron
@@PhantomBulletGames It’s not that they are getting worse, they are just getting turned into Star role players. Loves ability to stretch the floor because of his shooting helped Lebron and Kyrie. They could never leave love open and they forced big men out of the paint
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Great work.
I can't wait for a new one of these lol. Every year it is greatness.
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Hot take: Jimmy has the best basketball channel on TH-cam.
That's not a hot take, it's just straight facts.
@@albericponcedeleon2696 that's like literally an opinion. Go back to school
His basketball knowledge is abysmal though
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Just because a team underperforms doesn't mean it wasn't a superteam, that just means that they choked. The Lakers and the Cavs were meant to be superteams, they just didn't live up to the level that they were supposed to. Net rating definitely doesn't tell the whole story.
we all knew russ sucked, melo was way past his prime and ads a beast ok but we all knew hes injury prone ... lakers were not a superteam
Didn’t line up to the level???? They went to 4 straight finals😂
That's part of my argument against KD going to the Warriors...People are mad because it worked...Stars have been trying this for years...sometimes it just doesn't work...Like the 2022 Lakers....
Lol Cavs were not a superteam. James and Kyrie were the only two good players on the team.
Lol Cavs were not a superteam. James and Kyrie were the only two good players on the team.
What if the nba had multiple leagues for how tall you were, for example there could be a leave for 5”6-5”10 then like 5”11 to 6”3 and so on
@Jxmmyhighroller could you do a comparison of how the explosiveness of NBA Players begins to decrease as they age? How would the average NBA athlete compare to players in the NFL once they pass the 3 decade mark in age
"...a 6'10 Patrick Beverly." - that got me...looking forward for more of your content.
If you just look at what Love did with the Timberwolves, then you would've assumed he was going to average 20 and 12 every season they were together on better efficiency. I personally believe Love got worse after going to the cavs. They most certainly should've been a superteam being as though at the time the team was made Love was looking like a potential superstar, and Kyrie definitely was all star caliber talent
From the eight 2003 players, my starting line up would be Iverson at point, Kobe the 2 guard, Garnett at the 3 spot, Duncan at the 4, and Shaq dominating the center position.
Hot take: Klay Thompson is a top-five shooter of all time and a top 20 player in the NBA based on peak performance as of players rn