How To Lose An MVP Award in 10 Seconds
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i wish i could do 80% of my job and have random people angry with my boss that i dont get to win an award.
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Yeah cuz ur job requires constant risk of injury
All they have to do is swing a 4 day work week while everyone else does 5
@@bregozy3330Bro are you 6 or do you not know what a blue collar job is?
"What about all the fans who saved for months to see me play once?" Kobe Bryant on load management.
The statue was long over due, but glad it's finally here and it's wonderful.
That's all there is to say. I think a lot of players forget they get paid to entertaint, at the end of the day.
top this comment. players now a days are just not that grateful, theres no difference on how people play today and the old dudes, i remember church says about todays players
I drove 4 and half hours EACH WAY to find out Orlando Shaquille Oneal wasn't going to play around 95/96
@@LookingForAName...true but as an nba player you put yourself first and your health, because without you the league keeps running
I LOVE the new 65 game rule! The graph at 10:55 tells the story. Players back in the 80s/90s weren't just sitting out games just because they felt like it, compared to what's going on today. NBA should've did this sooner!
Kobe retired / Warriors dynasty --> players stopped caring about regular season lol
One of the things that put Larry,Mike, Magic and Kobe GOATS of last 40-50 years, is they didn't load managed. Other than Bird's later years, he faught injuries but played hurt like the real goats
It’s good, but being tied to money is fucked
people never cared about the regular season, just premier matchups. But now those matchups aren't even worth watching...@@pickle.786
And would have less injuries
It’s creating a better product, we rarely see stars ducking or resting during games now and it’s better for the game. Injuries suck but Embiid was never going to win with how many games he had already missed up until that point. 65 game rule has been a blessing.
I still see players missing big matchups pretty sure I saw Lebron sit out against a couple good teams recently
@@taxationistheft7 Hes over 34 so the rule doesn't apply to him, same with curry
@@yungmo1599is that part of the rule? Over 34s can rest more?
@@monketok141 At the 10 minutes mark you can see a brief overlook of the rule(s). Players 35+ years, 34K regular season minutes or 1K career games can rest.
I think we (the fans) will remember this more in the way of: he got the awards last year, he deserved one now and he got one so let's call it even (or Karma if you are into that).
- Clip of Nash.
- Clip of Kobe.
- "The difference between the best and the most valuable are almost never this black and white."
Give this man a Pulitzer
Im glad i wasn't the only one to notice 😂
Ya boy spittin facts 🙌
He should put a clip of Shaq
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@@nicholasperran990Why? Shaq wasn't in contention for MVP either of those seasons. Look up those seasons.
that’s a triple entendre holy shit
The moment I saw Draymond complaining about this rule I knew it was a good one.
idk, it is an it isn’t. embiid felt pressured into playing when he was clearly injured and shaken up, which lead to a worse injury
@sanzu3056 I mean I guess. He does it to himself. Plays the easiest games sits all the challenges. You're just making your body weak at that point. Then on top of it a week before this injury he got hurt in the pacers game and guess what he didn't come out because he wanted to stat pad and continue his 30-10 streak on increasing the risk for injury more. Dude needs to train his body better. Been in the league almost a decade and never seen any improvement to that side of his game. Dudes always so gassed so he has to flop for every call so he can get a 2 minute break at the free throw line. The way he plays is why he's always injured. He literally does it to himself.
@@GdfsandozIt's not stat padding it's because of idiots like you, he needs to keep playing because if he doesn't he's gonna keep getting called a loser.
@@sanzu3056I don’t agree with this take unless you also agree he’s ducking good teams on the road. When he didn’t play in Denver everyone gave the excuse that it wasn’t his call it was the medical staff. Now the medical staff had no say when they played GS? I’m not buying that.
@@sanzu3056pros and cons to everything. This rule has more upside than down.
Im from Australia and the US is a long long way. I had a friend who flew all the way from here to the US to watch an LA Lakers game and watch Lebron play. He paid a huge sum of money for his tickets along with having to be across the other side of the world. Lebron didn't play at all because he broke a nail. Yes, they should definitely maintain the 80% rule for the MVP award.
Wait is it true that LeBron didn't play because of a broken nail only? When was it? Holy shit I feel so bad for your poor friends.
@@trueqiuhan well no, I exaggerated. He was off for an injury or something.
@@kivsanchez811so u upset at Lebron cuz he was hurt😭
He should knew It if he's an LA fan, and the other reason Is a recent injury and thats a bad luck... So I cant see whats the problem with Lebron this Time
sounds like it's on him though, LeBron been playing 50-ish games for a season or 2 now. He would play all of the premier matchups up until his foot injury that wasn't just "breaking a nail"...
Load management is the worst thing to happen in the NBA during the last decade. Not for the players, but for the fans.
You know the 65 game rule is working when Kawhi is playing more games and not load management
He played more this season then seem like last 4 years
Kawhi is unaffected by the new rule
@@omarhasan03yeah ok. He’s literally the player who started all this load management shit when he was with the spurs
@@Jsalcedo23 no no. I mean, if he plays or not, the rule doesn't affect him. He's excluded from the rule. Him, KD, Steph, LeBron... ...they already are supermax players with enough tenure that the rule doesn't affect them. Awards are meaningless to them. The rule affects players beneath their accolades. Their bag is completely unaffected by this rule.
@omarhasan03 That is not how it works. There is no exception for being a supermax player. The whole purpose of the rule is to keep allstars on the floor. In the case of Kawhi, the Clippers can apply for an exception on certain games based on his injury. In the case of Lebron, they can seek an exception on certain games because of his age, number of minutes, and games played.
I think the 65 games rules is one of the best rules that comes out from the NBA in recent years. If you don’t/can’t play, how is that “valuable” to your team? Granted, actual injuries sucks. But then again, when again is life fair? Sometimes you are unlucky in life and that is it, you take the good and the bad in life.
Nah but if you look at leauge history you will see on ALL NBA teams often the third team is reserved for those who were AMAZING for less games and who if they played more would've been on the second or first team, you will say its fair until we have an injury ridden year and genuinely have a horrible ALL NBA lists.
I like the mvp can’t get given out put all nba for example
I dont like it because 65 is just such a hard line. What if Player A who is a #1 on the mvp race by a lot plays 64 games, and Player B (who is #2 in MVP, but is clearly worse than Player A) plays 65 games? What would they do then? Does that 1 game really do that much of a difference?
Similar to when Brogdon won ROY over Embiid because Embiid only played 31 games?
@@mEtil5656it was an already an unwritten rule they u have to play at least 65 games to win mvp it always been this way
It’s a decrease of 35% (117 to 76 games missed among star players, defined as all nba players in 2023). It would be an increase of nearly 55% if it was the other way around. i.e. 76 to 117 games missed.
That’s the weird thing about percentages tbh
As in increase in the amount of games played
And he did it again later with games missed through January by the top 50.
595 -> 406 is a 32% decrease, not 45%
I searched for this post, thank you
@@DutchKidRangerme too, I wondered if anyone commented about it, other I’d have made one 😅
I think another point that a lot of people miss is that typically 60-65ish games was already the point where most people (including voters) started to dismiss you as a candidate even without the rule. The rule just sets a hard boundary for a concept the was already in place. As well as make it much easier on the voters because they have one less stat to factor in.
Only 2 times the NBA MVP played less than 65 games in the regular season, those times were BILL WALTON IN 1978, and Joel Embiid last season, playing the majority of the season has ALWAYS a defined factor to win MVP, we just made it official
To quote chuck "The best ability is availability". No exceptions for MVP.
Embiid has always had injury issues, and this is a factor for great players and building teams. It's the same in all sports. It's another reason why Lebron is such a freak.
I'm not Embid's fan, but this injury wasn't all his fault. Kuminga throwing himself to his ankle was a shitty move, u can't do that... idk why everyone overlook that
@@neverlookbackwillybecause thats exactly what embiid does on a nightly basis.
@@neverlookbackwilly did you see the play? Embiid dove for the ball and kuminga just fell because he was fighting for the ball. It was an unlucky injury but he could definitely prevented that by just not playing while injured or not going to the floor the way he did and normaly does.
Was just about to say that lol.
@@neverlookbackwilly no one said it was his fault. I don't think he did it on purpose. I know he's not faking it. But he's not playing. There's no value added on the bench. Getting injured all the time is not a valuable trait. Wish the best of luck in his recovery. I want to see him get smoked in the finals in Denver more than anything.
Jimmy could have mentioned that, ever since NBA changed to 82 games per season in 1967/68, only 4 players who won the MVP award didn’t play 65 games.
And among these 4 players, 3 of them had a lockout season, which were 98/99 Karl Malone, 11/12 Lebron James and 19/20 Giannis A-Z.
So the only MVP award winner who didn’t reach 80% attendance rate was the only infamously injury prone 77/78 Bill Walton. Even Embiid himself played 66 games last season to win the MVP award.
So 65 games or 80% is not “stupid” at all.
"Giannis A-Z" bro that's a good one 🤣
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the number of games, the problem is that it’s a regulation now whereas availability was ALWAYS taken into account (hence your stat that only 4 MVPS have played less that 65 games) When you make it a rule that DISQUALIFIES a player for something that was always taken into account is stupid. I don’t know about others, but I was frustrated with the rule because it was unnecessary
@@deewarejr6137 What it does do is give a guarantee to the networks though. Sure, awards always took availability into account, but now networks feel safer buying rights to the games because they know a star is more likely to play than not. In return, the players as a whole are also getting more money.
Basically, yeah, Embid is out of the running for MVP now, but he likely was anyways. But now the players get more money despite basically nothing changing. I see no issue here for the players at all. It's just something they want to whine about.
@@deewarejr6137The rule is necessary if the players aren’t missing games like the video says. If you incentivize them to play with money, they’ll suit up and play
@@deewarejr6137to be fair though, the MVP side of things is kind of irrelevant. It’s really just bragging rights for these guys, where it really starts to matter is those all nba 3rd teams where the guys vying for that are on the fringes of getting that last all nba slot allowing them to earned super max contracts, and it’s the all nba teams where you routinely see guys playing under that limit and still getting the nod over guys playing 75-80 ish games at a slightly lower level of play.
Jimmy your content never misses. An incredible statistician that makes concrete solid arguments, and you're also an elite level documentary filmmaker. You're editing skills are next level, as is your writing. We're lucky to have you.
The thing with Embid though, is that he had already missed 12 out of 45 games before that injury. He was already running thin on games missed half way through the season with only 5 more to spare.
He had played just as many games as he did last year at the 45 game mark & would’ve been eligible last year. Watch basketball
He played 66 games last year, so yes he had 2 games to spare by the end of the season. I don't know why you think that's a refutation of what I said. He was really frigging close to not being eligible had the same rules been in place. He was pushing it last year, he was pushing it this year. That doesn't make what I said inaccurate.@@5115neo
The other thing about Embid, which the video unfortunately leaves out, is that he was getting dragged pretty heavily for missing a couple games right before this. People thought he was just being lazy, but he was clearly hobbled later on in the game, and that injury was less “fluke horror” and more “hurt player aggravates lingering injury into a major one”.
That’s the downside to this rule: It pushes players with lingering injuries to play hurt, risking greater injuries in order to hit that 65 game mark. It might still be for the best, but it is a worry to keep in mind.
Jimmy doing more than 99% of actual NBA analysts, we love it
Fr, I immediately stop whatever I'm doing to watch these
99% is a stretch. He is not better than the guys from thinking basketball, Zach Lowe, guys from the Ringer. Want me to keep going cause your biased opinion is showing. Its okay to praise jimmy but stop the unneccesary glazing.
@@LLDRvhes better than them
@@ArdenRD get tf off your knees bro 🙏💀
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what people are missing is that Embiid wouldn't win the MVP without this rule considering he would miss almost 50 games with the meniscus tear, the voters just couldn't overlook that
Exactly, also, he would certainly miss 65 games obligation even if he didn't sustain this particular injury.
He is always injured.
Yes, but this rule takes all the argument out of it, so it's still a net benefit in my book.
Yeah no player has won MVP with less than 65 games played sense before LeBron was even born other than the bubble year or a lockout year where there wasnt even 65 games. It shouldnt even be a conversation when it comes to MVP because thats just too many game to miss
they also wouldn't overlook the constant playoff choke jobs. You can't consistently play poorly when it matters and win the mvp. It doesn't matter if it's a regular season award you can't nor shouldn't overlook that
@@pko1683 Media has double standards, they promote Embiid, so this is not something that would be 100% true. He could get his 2nd MVP, they love him. Also, he is black.
Your point about the TV money makes the 65 game requirement essential.
This was a league not that long ago worried about money. Now they are set AND we get to watch more stars actually play.
I'm a fan of how this content producer engages the metrics: sometimes skepticized, but always fascinating.
chuck said it best "it should be 70 games"
He didn’t make 70 games half the seasons he played
@@KeithKemp_he did his mvp season🤷♂️
@@noloveentertainmentchopper4052 maybe if he rested more he would’ve had strength to win a ring
@@KeithKemp_so maybe if MJ rested more he would have won 10 championships?
Resting has nothing to do with winning the championship.
If you rest too much you sacrifice team chemistry.
@@iFanchi ask Duncan if resting is bad, I’d rather see superstar miss random game in charlotte than miss whole season with an awesome injury, but the point is chuck can’t say shit about resting, when he made 70 games every other season and made 11 all nba teams, he made money out of it.
You start making exceptions, everyone's gonna feel exceptional. Its a fair rule, if you didn't play enough you don't deserve the laurels. And the rules always been there as a soft cap. Someone who missed the season is going to be devalued in the MVP (or whatever) chase anyway. Now its just codified so players know what they're working with.
Without the rule, let's say Embiid finished at 60 games with his current averages. Does he really deserve the MVP? Would the voters choose him over Jokic, SGA and Luka? I don't think so. If you have even a little bit of fairness in you, you wouldn't choose Embiid.
exactly, I think this conversation started because embiid's injured (by Kumingga) and he was projected to miss the 65 mark and so he's out of the MVP race...
and I was thinking in my head, 'yooo you all really trying that hard to making him the MVP', if he can't stay healthy than he can't be the MVP, that's simple..
yes injury suck and unpredictable but it's part of the risks...
@@berryesseenlmao
No
@@berryesseenthere is always a case for anybody to be the mvp with enough BS, Embiid won last year cause of slander from Perkins, racially motivated slander because we didn’t want jokic to be a 3 peat mvp, I would of have him the mvp this year if he played 60 games because he is actually far and above the best player, but last year was so stupid when jokic was better stat wise and team wise then Embiid
The rule is fair.
Some of the best advice I got from a mentor was "be careful what you measure". People will change whatever they have to to achieve the metric that gets them paid.
If you make an injury exception for the 65 game rule, people will start claiming everything as injuries. If you change nothing, people will reduce risk to avoid injury.
It'll be tough either way, but I think the change was for the best.
You could always do a major injury exception so X- games in a row forced off (let’s say 10) and thus not include minor injuries and then it goes off the new 80%. Since this does to a degree encourage them to recover for longer periods of time when injured to a degree.
I feel like that could apply to this video aswell. Participation late in the season is gonna plummit as players reach the threshold
Not to be that guy but to measure percent change (when you were showing percentage decrease of games missed) the equation is :
(Difference/original) and not (difference/new) like you were doing. It lowers the percentage decrease of games missed but your point still stands
There was a big comment on this but it was deleted. Hopefully Jimmy isn’t trying to avoid this criticism
I love the new rule. This video makes it clear that players make more than ever before. So naturally they should have higher expectations. That's how it works for any other job. More money more responsibility.
From a fan perspective, regular season games are more fun to watch
Third and maybe even second team all nba doesn’t matter anymore because it’s not going to people that might deserve it just people who played 65 games and were alright during the year.
This is a perfect example
@@tycalvert6011 Not if the best players play 65+ games
@tycalvert6011
At this point I really don't care. Load management is a joke. They want the supermax but none of the work associated with playing 70+ games
Well said
The thing is there’s only 2 instances where a player won mvp while only playing less than 70 games on a full 82 games season. That’s Joel last year and Bill walton in 1978. People actin like the reason he’s not gonna win the MVP is because of the new rule.
This just isnt true, Giannis played 63 in 2019-2020
@@jathanpridgen3572There was only 72 games that season
@@jathanpridgen3572that’s because the season was shortened
@@jathanpridgen3572 it was the season cut by covid.
@@jathanpridgen3572But that season was shortened due to COVID. In terms of a regular NBA season, he's correct.
Another amazing video Jimmy! I’ve showed a few videos to friends that aren’t well versed in the NBA and it’s really sparked their interests. Keep up the hustle!
Because the comments are mainly on basketball - Just want to say great editing and motion graphic work dude! It goes unnoticed alot, so kudos!
can you make a comment praising my awesome comment making skills while your at it?
This rule is a stroke of genius.
First the play in tournament, then this rule and the in season tournament.
Adam Silver is really standing on business. The future of the NBA is in good hands.
The only thing that he needs to look into now is the officiating, and the refs having egos bigger than the player's themselves
W take
Play in tourney is not it sorry it’s weak
@@josuealvarez665 Wdym it was fire
Lol the reffing isn’t that bad. I swear I hear yall complain about the reffing so much but there are so few games that are actually poorly officiated. Bad calls happen that will always and the ego you talk about is them being confident in their calls. If they aren’t confident with their calls then the players and coach’s eat them alive and then the officiating gets even harder and more bad calls happen. Unless you are talking mainly on just technicals then you may have a case. But don’t say refs have bigger egos than the players cause players complain about every and I mean every single play. It’s actually unbearable to watch. If we are gonna go at the refs for this crap then we need to go at the players for always complaining as well
@@josuealvarez665 the play-in tournament seems pointless if it's just nba teams. It should be a joint international competition where say the top 8 NBA teams of last season and the top 8 Euro league teams play against each other in a best of 3 knockout tournament that's spread though out the season. Kinda like the champions league in soccer. You can even shorten the NBA season to like 70-sum games to compensate for the extra games in the tournament.
6:48 Hold on, hold on - going from 117 to 76 is a decrease of 41 games, which is almost 55% of 76, but you have to compare it to 117, which was the starting number. It's a decrease of 35% which is still good, but check the math, real quick.
He does the same mistake at 7:31
Okay glad I’m not the only who looked at that math kinda funny lmao
yeah and at 7:28 he did it again with 595 and 409 saying it was 45% decrease when really its what about 30%? still a big number but he overexaggerated both percentages
He subtracted the change in games missed from the final total ex. 2024 games missed - change in games missed from 23-24. He should’ve done the games missed in 2023 instead of 2024 tho
Honestly, the entire metric was improper...
82 games x 15 players = 1230 games potentially.
2022 Season: 1230 - 117 missed games = 1113.
2023 Season 1230 - 76 = 1154.
1113 / 1154= 0.9644714038%, or effectively... ~3.5% fewer games missed than the year prior.
Thank you for making this video! I don't understand basketball, but my brother loves it. I appreciate that you simplified this issue so that I can understand.
Hey man you make some of the most advanced and analytical sound nba content I’ve ever seen. I’m trying to teach my wife about basketball and some it is just over her head I would love some basketball for dummies type content explaining the game and etc. that would be awesome !
Not sure on some the % math. Games missed 406 vs 595 is a decrease of 32% not 45%. 76 vs 117 is a decrease of almost 35% not 56%.
My guess was he did it backwards. 406-595 is about 50% increase and 76-117 is about 55% increase
@@Yoofen yes I thought the same.
What I couldn't understand from the video was the time span. If 406 is from today, and 595 was all of last year, then extrapolation would suggest the math is WAY off and worse then last year by far.
@@bobbyragsdale3607 they're both through January
It's easy to make percentages look good, as a viewer it's good to understand the basis of it so you don't get hooked
The 65 game rule 100% needs to stay in place. You summed it up perfectly. If the players want an exception to the rule, it should only be related to money, i.e. if someone has an injury that means they don’t qualify for all NBA because of games, but they were clearly all NBA and get a contract bonus then maybe the league or the players can vote if they deserve the bonus based on there play in the games they did play.
The teams can be given an option to ignore the 65-game rule for 1 or 2 players if the player is an All-NBA caliber stats until the time of his injury. So, Embiid can be paid as if he is in All NBA but in reality, he still won't be. As long as the money issue is solved, I think nobody will complain about the rule. It's good for everybody.
Another viewpoint is the fact that this rule is rewarding players who are not "the best" but are mostly available. So these players get in All NBA instead of the injured ones. So, it is again a good thing for players who actually play.
@@berryesseen yea the money part I don't care about, if teams are willing to overpay for an injury-prone player, then let them do it. But for awards that affect legacy and other players in the league, the 65 game rule is more than fair
Or tell the haters to stop crying and let the players/organizations take responsibility for CHOOSING to play through an injury to get a trophy that earns them more money. It's high stakes Risk/Reward.
but then what if someone plays 10 games averages 40 and then tears their ACL…
this woudnt work because you would need a games requirement for this too
@@sundognation You can go further. What if someone plays 3 seconds and hit a 3 pointer. His point/minute would be insane. Would he deserve the MVP? We need to put some "total" requirements always. 65 games is that threshold.
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Great video, as always Jimmy.
Two points:
One, imo the American sports leagues format kind of helped the load management concept setting in, as the teams try to save their best players for the playoffs.
In Europe, teams can’t afford to sit out players if they are fighting for the championship.
Two, please put some respect on Steve Nash… the guy was a magician, and even if he wasn’t the best player in the league he was in the driving seat of a prototype team.
Thanks for the tutorial. I’ve been wondering for a while how to lose an MVP award in 10 seconds.
fr i have been searching for a tutorial for this for a minute
Put it on the sidewalk in Detroit and turn away for ten seconds
@@bronzeandsteel3344 that’s the only way Detroit could have an MVP this season
Facts@@Levi_Ventrice
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“And here’s Embid, way up here.” Prediction
In a free throw chart 📈 In the MVP conversation 📉
😂😂😂 “and well… I’ll let the numbers speak for itself”
Is my music decent?,ll
@@SplittinTheBillhis PPG and field goal percentage will both decrease by 10 in the playoffs
All of Jimmy's videos are the same these days lol. Bro needs a new formula
This is one of the best new rules NBA has implemented in recent years. Though I kinda agree with Hali, it shouldn't have an effect on All-NBA, or they need to find a way to disconnect Awards from contracts. I just don't think any player should lose out on some huge money he arguably deserves, just cause he didn't get Award XY
The MVP eligibility rule is literally amazing . I don't remember getting this much enjoyment out of a regular season ever.
It’s not change to the mvp only once has someone that played less than 65 games won it
I love the rule, just from an availability-for-the-fans perspective. I think with sports in general but especially the NBA, people tend to think of the fans in the stadium as the local regulars. With the NBA specifically, the attention is always on the big money fans and the courtside seats. What gets forgotten, though, is that so much of sports fandom is driven by average middle class fans who maybe only can go to a game a year. You have a lot of sports fans who probably almost never take traditional vacations or anything due to their budget, but that one time a year they make the 2-3 hour drive to get to the city in their state where their favorite team plays. For those fans to get to the game only to find out their favorite players are sitting on the bench and the team isn't even trying that night, that should be considered inexcusable to the league.
@@BluebirdfallingAnd you add nothing
Don't forget us international fans who has to plan months/weeks away just to see a game live once.
@@Bluebirdfalling all fax tho
I'd love to get paid for only showing up to work 50% of the time. This 65 game rule should have been enforced 10 years ago; fantastic rule.
Does your job constantly put you at risk of suffering life long pain and injuries that are irreversible? Probably not.
what job do you work
@@h2owl205Have you ever heard of a blue collar job?
This is basketball not football, and that's what they get paid millions of dollars for, even NFL understand the risk but it's their choice to play @@h2owl205
@@h2owl205Many blue collar workers do just that and in turn they don’t get awards or the massive contacts worth hundreds of millions of dollars that NBA players get.
Jimmy, we need a video about how to fix the All-Star game. Let’s add some Rock n Jock elements. Higher rims. 5-point spots. Eliminate the 3-point line. Give extra points for alley oops. Add fantasy prop bets like giving extra points each quarter to the team with the most assists, or most rebounds, or most blocks. We need to figure something out. Help us.
This rule is great and I agree with your differentiation between best and most valuable
Top 15 missed games YOY is 35% reduction, not 55%. But the point is made; 65 game min rule is working thus far.
Same thing on the top 50. 400 is not a 50% reduction from 600 lol he’s doing his percentages backwards
Lol yeah as a math nerd it bothered me also. It’s a small pet peeve, but it’s definitely done I think because it sounds bigger to say “…nearly 50% more games last year” than the alternative 😂
So glad someone else pointed this out, clocked that too.
I'm a BIG BIG fan of minimum games threshold. I live in MN. I haven't bought a Timberwolves ticket in 3 years, cuz opposing teams would rest their stars when they came thru. Now I might buy a ticket.
Well, it definitely helps that the Timberwolves are pretty good this year
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Embid not getting that mvp is a ray of light in my dark daily life.
as always i agree with jimmy, but i gotta say: availability will ALWAYS be the best ability, because it does not matter how good you are if you can not be present on the court. Great video as always 👍
it is, just like when ur team need u the most and u unavailable that's makes u under valuable even though the number says otherwise
If you called out from work once a week, you'd be fired.
not true, sick leave, pto, holiday pay..... youve never had a job for more than two years have you squidward
@@veneer92tm you telling me the average job gives 10 weeks a year in PTO?
@@veneer92tmthey said called out. Not holiday and pto, those aren’t calling out.
Government employed literally gave infinite sick days,,, and most states going forward have a law that employers must grant an hour of sick leave for every 32 hours of work.... sooo yeah if you have a decently tenured job then you can definitely take some real time off.... 12 straight sick days is usually the norm,,, but theres no law saying that you can take more days
@@veneer92tmso you’re admitting that you couldn’t call in once a week and keep your job. Why do people say things like this and refuse to admit when they’re wrong
Bro ignored Luka on both those charts lmao
I just love that Zion hasn’t had a major injury, I’m praying it stays this way he’s such a joy to watch
He needs to step his rebound game up a little 3 rebounds a game is trash for how powerful he is
:(
Great Video Jimmy, but u forgot to mention another thing that got highlighted this season, that is, if the stars don't have to play 80% games, they can pick and choose the opponent to boost up their stats.
Which is exactly what Embiid was doing. Did it to some extent last year too. Look at his record on playing road games against good teams. If not for opening this season on the road in Milwaukee (pretty hard to miss the first game of the season if you're not hurt) and playing on the road against OKC (who have a center who is about 100lbs lighter than Embiid), his lack of playing against tough competition on the road is pathetic. This is suspiciously never brought up that much in the regular sports media. Also not brought up is the fact there were multiple occasions this season where Embiid tweaked his knee or ankle in games and went back in to keep his 30 and 10 streak alive. He also did this in several blowout games. So these same people wringing their hands about this rule and how it allegedly "forces" players to play hurt apparently have no issue with a guy playing hurt when he wants to pad his own, individual stats.
Thank you for the last graph. It shows it wasn't just a matter of Lebron, AD, Kawhi etc being healthy this season. It really was a quickly accelerating trend where the average allstar was about to start playing less than 80% of games. You shouldn't be in a position as a fan where you buy expensive tickets to a game and have a 1/4 chance of your favorite player in street clothes.
I absolutely love the content. The way this man architects his arguments and portrays information to his viewers is a masterpiece. Since when is Walker Kessler a top-50 player tho? Hahaha no hate my man keep it up!
Load management has become a terrible issue. I live in France and I’ve been several times to NBA games…lucky enough to see the top players play. I would have been so disappointed to see them sitting on the bench. Like Jordan or Kobe used to say, every star should be playing for the fans in the arena who never saw them play. Also, who goes to the office 80% of the time because they want/need to rest…except for vacation…but NBA has a vacation in summer…
No doubt this minimum is a good rule but also players shouldn’t be paid when not playing whatever the reason and insurances should cover games missed for injuries.
Finally, players might be around 90% game played this season…but it would be interesting to review this at the end of the season as they might be keeping some buffer right now in case of injuries.
Last but not least, thank you Jimmy for another great great video !!! 👍
I fell in love with the game of basketball as a kid thanks to players like Kobe and A.I. I’ve always felt like if you’re healthy, you should play. You’re never going to be at 100% past a certain point of the season but if you are healthy, I believe you should play.
Oxymoronic
This is something only a person who has never played a high level of sports would say
@@StillAwesome21being healthy ≠ being a hundred percent
@@Sam-oe4dt What you said makes it sound like you haven't played a high level of sports... This happens all the time. Sometimes you can still play even if you have a minor injury.
I like the 65 game rule. Embiid was the clear leader in the race but it is not like SGA or Jokic were that far behind. As said by Jimmy when it comes to most VALUABLE player, I would rather have either of them over Embiid strictly knowing there is a higher percent change they are available. They are 98% as good as a player but 30% more available. Plus it get rid of super stars sitting games out, I would be pretty pissed if I when through all the trouble of attending an NBA game in my busy life only for the premier super star to sit out.
Also, SGA and Jokic won't choke the hell out of the playoffs and dip in the second round whilst watching their numbers plummet because the refs have been holding their hand the entire season. Embiid was only looking favourite to win the mvp because he gets nearly 30% of his points from the charity strip
Embiid hasn't proven anything in the playoffs, he doesn't deserve consideration for best player until that changes. Remember now, that was the argument with Jokic before last season.
@@Skantezz MVP is a regular season award.
@@_swif_ Precisely, come post-season that is when we get to see who is truly the best.
considering that this is for awards and not salary, i think it is fair. awards are a bonus, an ego booster and part of being the best or MVP depends on off court mangement of recovery and training. i also think that only having to perform at 80 percent of the games is lenient, you couldn't say that about any other job and once again this is to get an ego boosting award not salary. could you imagine going to work 80 percent of the time and then complaining you didn't get employee of the month, you'd be fire before the month was up.
You made a great comment about how regular season doesn’t seem to matter and is disconnected from the playoffs. It sure feels like that especially for any top 4 teams when there are so many teams make the playoffs. Just get to the playoffs without injury. Regular season is a penalty/tax to top teams. Like embid being out. That is why regulating mins especially at the end of the season will be higher. Like so see the analysis last 4 months of this season and see of it still holds of players that playing more compare to last.
I think if they make a big prize for winning the league or relegation for bottom of the league like the the premier league in soccer you might make regular season way more interesting.
Any data to support that? Your analysis is always very spot on.
"You miss all the games you can't play."
You say best players in the world and you show Simmons, nice one 🤣🤣🤣
If I get sick or injured and miss 50% of this years work, I am pretty sure I am not getting considered for the employee of the year award.
imagine getting paid millions and having to show up to work, who would have thought
thanks for making the highest quality nba videos jimmy 🙏🏾
Always man and with the same ad
"Today video is sponsored by SeatGeek" 😂😂
@@BertitoCreativeWorld I mean, you better get your seats
cuh got the top comment 😭😭😭😭
haha@@TheTriathlete
GOATiology rivals his quality
This dude hates Embiid so much wtf😭
Exactly, unless it’s negative he never talks about him at all
Jimmy I love you videos and always have. I fully support you putting in sponsors to get paid for the dilligent work you do, as well as the entertainment that it provides us all. But as an Australian, who has seen how gambling has destroyed the lives of so many, as well as tainted the overall culture here, please stop supporting these companies who prey on addictions to make profits. Love your work man!
As a fan, I liked the rule and was glad it was implemented. The rule is not strict and if players had not abused taking "rest" days in previous season then it would not be necessary. Thank you for making this video and sharing your insight.
It’s a hard and complicated conversation to have because injuries suck and often times there’s nothing players can do to avoid injuries but regardless as harsh as it may be, injuries take you off the court. Avoidable or not you are NOT valuable to your team if you can’t play.
I can understand the frustration for the players to rush them back from injuries they could further hurt them as seen with the Halliburton injury we saw this season but regardless I don’t think it’s to much to ask of these players if they want to be in consideration for awards in the best league the sport has to offer.
The MVP award is the most valuable player to their team not the most valuable player to their team when they play. As you said in the video which I totally agree with, is a player truly the most valuable if they’re unable to play?
Frankly, the amount of entitlement from the players is staggering. You already have fully guaranteed deals. Unlike nearly any other athlete, you get paid whether you get hurt or not. Now you’re complaining that you deserve an award too even if you don’t play?
He's never even had a shot at a Finals MVP either. Feels like a great player that can't get his team over the hump. Hate to see the injuries though.
I think it's a good change. My big supporting years was from the 90s and many of the star players played all 82 games. I live in Canada and don't get as many games, so I only missed out on Robinson, Hakeem, or Barkley when they were hurt. I never missed out on MJ as he never missed any games while I watched!
That thumbnail feels like a violation lol
Random weeknight games are a lot more fun to watch this season. I had pretty much given up watching unless it was a primetime matchup or playoffs (even then a lot of times I just couldn't be bothered) because of how often you would see one team run out a G league lineup. This year if I have nothing going on I will tune into random matches that are between potential playoff teams and it's a lot more entertaining.
I really am found of your Data Anlysises man, you are part of why I chose an academic domain of computer science Data Engineering. Keep up the ultimate work.
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Getting a degree this year in computer science in engineering with minors in Economics & Math @ Michigan
Many Blessings 🙏🇺🇸
He kinda messed it up tbh
Make sure you learn how to do percentages better than Jxmy 😆
The rule works. My wife once got us 2 tickets for Warriors @ Heat. Curry, Klay, Draymond and Herro sat out. She paid $1,700 for the tickets. It was a huge sacrifice from her to pay that much for the tix. Since then my love for the sport has dropped.
i think asking "should you get rewards for playing basketball if you aren't playing basketball?" is one of the funniest things ever.
Loved this video, tackled every point regarding the new rule and why it's needed in today's league.
jimmy never fails to entertain us. been watchin you from the beginning bro, keep it up with the great contnet
The pacing of your videos is perfect
I like the rule for all the reasons you laid out. Injuries suck, but the player who shows up is always more valuable than the player who doesn’t, regardless of the sport. I do think we can make some tweaks to it. One I’d like to see is for 65 games stay as the minimum for what I see as the big awards: MVP, All-NBA 1st Team, DPOY, MIP. But we could loosen up the other All-NBA teams: maybe a 55 game threshold for 2nd Team and a 45 game threshold for 3rd. Since there are salary implications, bonuses that players get for hitting these, maybe it could be combined with a bonus cap at the league level for these targets ($1m max bonus 3rd team, $5m max bonus 2nd team, no max bonus 1st team) to continue to push players to hit game minimums (admittedly don’t know if bonus caps already exists or not).
No I think if the players complain about 65 games then they should change it to a 70 game requirement. If they complain again then 75 game requirement. You can’t baby these grown men, that’s how we got to this point in the first place. And if they refuse to play then BYE go find another league that will pay you like the nba we can find more talent
@@979vlogs7Hahahaha, I like your style. 😎
I would much rather see superstar miss random October game in charlotte, than miss half a season with an injury
Not bringing up Luka when you brought up that chart was kinda nasty, he was above Jokic and bro just said it was Jokic.
Ya whyd he do that tho for real
I had the same thought, but jokic's and luka's numbers were identical in that chart. luka still deserved the mention though
He’s def a clippers or a fan who hates the mavs Lol😂
@@mayankpunjabi1052he’s on the record as a blazers fan lol
He also still hasn't made a video about Lukas 73 and #2 gamescore of all time. He probably just isn't crazy about him or something.
The Clippers are a prime example of how availability is the best ability. Now that Kahwi, PG, Harden and Brody are playing at full. Look at where they are right now.
Great video man. And I love this rule! They should make a similar rule for the All-Star game. Make the game serious and actually competitive
>Get the most fradulent MVP in recent memory
>Lose in the playoffs, and the guy who should've won MVP wins a championship & Final's MVP
>Be #1 contender for MVP cause you're shooting damn near 16-20 free throws a game
>Get injured and lose potential MVP
Seems like the universe balanced itself with this one.
Jimmy deserves an MVP for his ability to give us incredible videos.
Hop off his meat
not with all the math errors lol
Hey Jxmy, just some feedback regarding the maths in the comparisons between games missed. You need to calculate the percentage against the original number (ie games missed last season) rather than against the new total.
At this point ESPN needs to be inviting Jxmy on. He’s the only guy whose takes I actually trust
If i was only at work 75% or less of thr time and still had booku bucks plus fans and media begging i get a break on awards I'd be so grateful!!!
Wish I could work 80% of my work days for the year and still have a job...
While making more than most people will ever make
You're looking for an upper managent type job then.
@@JasonAtlasif upper management works 80% of the time only, they’re gonna get fired lmao. Those are ownership kinda hours
@@yeee33333 Start your own business then, mf say that like it's not possible, you don't have to complain.
My nephew is BY FAR the MVP on his team. Got hurt 1/4 of the way through the season. He doesn’t deserve any awards since he didn’t finish the season. It is.. what it is.
But if he played in 75-79% of his teams games instead of the 80% threshold…you don’t think he deserves to even be considered when you say that he’s the MVP by far?
@@bbcpfghs There has to be a line somewhere. If you allow 79%, then people will say "well what about 78%?". If you allow 78%, people will say "well what about 77%?". The line either exists, or it doesn't.
The ONLY way I could see something like this happening is if the player had such a historically great season that they wound up winning a certain percentage of the MVP vote, and if they were able to achieve semi-unanimous agreement, then you could have something that says "a player can still win the MVP award as long as they've played at least 75% of the season, AND if they received greater than x% of the MVP vote."
@@bbcpfghsA threshold is a threshold. The reason players are playing 55, 60, 65 games is because of load management, not injuries restricting when you can play. Joel did it to himself, ducking smoke in denver and getting “injured” when he has to play good teams only to come back 1 game later.
@@bbcpfghs no. If a kid gets a 89 on a test, you don’t say “well it’s almost a 90 so he gets an A”. A line has to be drawn and followed
@@caydencjturnersofficialhig3054 but a line doesn’t have to be drawn as proven by the entire NBA history up until this year. The actual problem with your analogy is that deciding NBA awards is a completely subjective thing where some people value some things more than others do.
Grading a school paper test is finding objective answers in most cases…two completely different things. Why make a hardline rule instead of just letting the majority of voters decide who they think it is?
What's crazy to me is everyone saying last year Embiid's mvp season was fraudulent but this year he undoubtedly deserves it, and his numbers are about the same.. lol
Actually watched this video and not one negative thing was said about Embiid, y’all wild for calling jxmy a hater 💀💀💀
My view is that a player can't be the most valuable player in the league to their team if they miss over a fifth of the games. Would someone be given employee of the month if they took a week long vacation?
great video, but btw when ur doing percentages ur supposed to divide the change in value by the original number not the new number. this miscalculation is inflating ur percentages a bit such as at 7:25. the actual decrease is around 30%
I know he was injured but this thumbnail is devious man 😭
Great analysis
They get paid too much. Thank you for summarizing it. Not just the players, but everyone involved.
You’re worth as much as they’re willing to pay you. Stop being a hater, it’s not like that revenue would go into your pocket.
Copy pasted, you and the other person are both slow. Pipe down, and stop watching, if you want less money involved.
That pic of embiid😂😂💀💀
Same😂
Just slumped over ass up ffs lmao
Ayyyoo
no surprise it was Draymond on top of him
The goat of TH-cam 👑👑👑
It's a great rule. A very necessary one for sure. It wouldn't be the worst thing ever to adjust it or make an exception, like estimated wins added could be the metric and there could be a minimum for that to meet. Like if Embiid somehow still ends up in the top 5 of wins added and his team makes the playoffs, you could argue he was the MVP even if he played under the 65 game minimum. But still, it's a good rule overall.