200hp in a tuned ls with amazing engine response and only weighing in at probably 950kgs 980kgs tops will absolutely shit on alot of performance cars on a circuit track. Power to weight ratio and balance is key to racing this civic doesn't need any more power then that. People are forgetting that Hondas were originally made for the corners not to go in straight lines.
My Japanese girlfriend in Cali, back when we were in high school in Santa Barbara, CA, was given a 1st gen Acura Integra in 87. That was the first time I made the Honda/Acura connection. I just KNEW the Acura line would blow up! My 94 Integra LS (non-vtec) has almost 200grand and still runs great with routine maint.
@imports247 Exact. The most powered NA hondas using Vtec engines as base, are upgraded without Vtec. See for example BTCC (British Touring Car Campionship) K20s: Their camshafts doesn't have the Vtec lobe. they are like Toda Vtec killer cams. Just high lifts and larger durations, as any NA rally car, kit car, etc. Keep in mind that the Vtec is the key to run large durations in high RPMs without losing too much torque at lower range of revolutions. But it is not worth on highly mod'd engines.
definitely the most hardcore allmotor nonvtec ls ive ever seen, props on it! i always say build what you like. My buddies at school always rag on me since i took up this type of build
it doesnt matter wether a car has 100hp or 400hp....if its built right and driven well it can be a very fast car....i have no problem with domestic cars, however, i do have a problem with most of the people that drive them because the only thing they can do is sit around saying that hondas and ac's are "gas savers" or "grocery getters" because theyre pissed off that on our way to the grocery store our little four cyl. that we spent maybe a 1/4 on the whole car that you spent just on gas last
@donvitolover182 who needs VTEC when you can get a proseries crower stage 2 or skunk 2 camshaft. This way the "high lobe" is always engaged and power is more even and readily available across the whole rpm band. Just my 2 bits
That makes no sense. The same air speed your trying to achieve by locking high lobe at lower rpms just means the engine is over working itself. The whole purpose of VTEC is to achieve optimum air velocity at certain rpms. Unless the engine is a full spec race engine your wasting your time and power
There is a non vtec head for the b18 that has the same size valves as the vtec head, I believe it’s called the pr8. That should be comparable to the vtec in flow but harder to find them then the normal p75 heads.
@pietjanhenk No Acuras have slightly different engines but Acura and Honda are the same maker, Acura's just like a more luxurious version of Honda's , just pretty much the same thing.
dude love the build i have a 90 integra rs swap out the original b18a1 and put a new b18b1 i have a few upgrages and im runnin close to 200whp love non vtec motors
hey man. if you could explain to me what you mean by building an ls motor that'd be awesome. my ls engine has 172K miles on it and is burning oil really fucking fast and i have feeling it's got about 30K miles left till it dies. what would you suggest? like just another ls b18b and get it installed? or what? i wanna bring more power out of this time but no turbo shit. got any ideas?
@NaziJewNikka Haha, I already do. '11 GTI. Did you know when you change out the ECU software the engine produces 300 pound feet of torque at 3k RPM? Instead of replacing every part on your Civic to make it go faster, why not just replace your Civic with a car that already goes fast in the first place?
What type of work is done to the head to get it to flow that high? Making power above 8k RPM with an LS head is not easy without forced induction so I have to give credit where it's due, this is certainly a well built/well thought out setup. I've always used VTEC heads for my all motor builds simply because they flow better in stock trim, and I'm kind of a maximum effort kind of guy. If I think I can get 200whp with an LS head, then I'm going to automatically be thinking howMuch more I can make with a VTEC head, and go that route. It's just how I operate. For the same reason, the only B series I have left is in my DC2 daily driver. My track toy now has 88x99 K power, just because I saw the maximum potential in that combo over any B series. Nice build man, props.
An all motor b20 with a p8r head would give most K's a surprise.... p8r heads flow as much air as b16's so you get the low, mid of nonVtec and top range of vtec... basically a nonvtec head ported out and polished from honda with bigger valves ... I got my b18b up to 190hp @ 6800 (7800 redline) and 163 tq with OEM p30 pistons and a built head still on 93 and stock b20z manifold.... I'm the other end of the spectrum, I'm the underdog type....Givin the LS some.love, goin down the road less traveled.... mated it to a LS trans with GSR final drive and a quaife LSD and it's a competent, fun car. trackable, but my daily.
WT0311 the extent of it was in my first comment....all motor, just a built head: bc0022 cams springs and retainers and p30 pistons, stock b18b crank and rods..... Really the tune and all the ancillary things that make it work right....hondata, cam gears, 7lbs flywheel, b16 crank pulley(factory undedrive with ac and p/s since it's smaller than b18b one), a stock b20z manifold (the weird lookin one with the torque box/resonance chamber on top) port matched, ported and polished with a 68 mm TB, CAI, biggest filter that fit in my bay(10"x6" really helps up top),colder plugs with 10mm wires,FPR, prelude injectors but with a walboro cranked up so the 290s really more like 310s, 2.5" exhaust to a mugen ITR twin loop, no cat, 4-2-1 comptech headers, and custom 3/4" TB and intake gasket made to help keep shit cool, blocked off all the water passages on the manifold too... bet there's more I'm missing cause I literally upgraded everything possibe but motor was basic...wanted a OEM/reliable daily so mixed and matched every possible honda part; crv,prelude,ITR, civic ... made a oem frankenstein that pushed165 hp/156 tq stock-ish w/just p30 pistons and the b20z head.... the p8r head and swapping everything over to a b20 is next, should be good for 220-ish since it basically a factory ported head and more displacement
@z06killer03mach1 just for the record.. acura is only the AMERICAN version of hondas, you go over to japan there is no such thing as an acura.. soo before you get all kno it all on people get yur facts straight, my b20 revss to 9500 :) shitssssss on errrrybodddy haha
it's a little funny how people are mentioning vtec, when the b18b is nonvtec. if it is then it should say lsvtec swap all motor. Either way its still impressive
@mopar43v3r What HONDA comes with B18? None right? there for they are different engines, same maker and all but it comes in a different car. But yeah Acura engines are Honda engines. They say Honda Motor co in the cover lol
@NaziJewNikka It doesn't, I just stole the sticker from your 1-liter Honda Civic. I thought about taking your Autozone boost gauge too, but then how would you measure the vacuum in your intake manifold?
@Warblade118 Who cares what it weighs? You do realize, that weight is also a performance addition? Besides being the easiest and quickest way to gain performance, it also determines alot more. Also your logic makes no sense.
A joke man that's like prob at least 220 to the crank compared to original 138 hp or 140hp that's a pretty good build man I bet it would beat what your runnin
@NaziJewNikka What car do you drive? In your favorites are a bunch of civic videos and a how-to on repairing a carbon fiber hood. You probably have a Civic or Integra with 20hp worth of JDM on it. Whooptee-friggin-do. The Minecraft videos should be a dead giveaway. Creative people have attention to detail. As a result, we're most likely going to buy the car that exhibits great attention to detail. Right now, the Mk6 GTI is one such car. And if I can afford that, is a $600 ECU flash improbable?
@NaziJewNikka I guess you've never heard of APR. They're the ones racing GTIs and winning in the Grand-Am series. GoAPR dot com, go look for yourself. While you're there, check out the numbers for the K04 turbo tune, I'll be upgrading to that sometime next year :)
And to those saying you will never duplicate an LS torque curve with a VTEC engine, as soon as you equal the playing field and use an 89mm crank/stroke in a VTEC B series you get nearly identical power curves. This is one of the main reasons hybrid builds like LSVtec and B20VTEC are popular; better low and midrange power vs a standard VTEC b series but also the immense top end that a VTEC head provides.
"Acura is the luxury vehicle division of Japanese automaker Honda Motor Company. The brand has been available in the United States and Canada since March 1986, marketing luxury, performance, and near-performance vehicles. It was introduced to Hong Kong in 1991, Mexico in 2004, and China in 2006. Honda's plan to introduce Acura to the Japanese market in 2008 was delayed, due to economic reasons, and later withheld as a result of the 2008 financial crisis." Straight from Wikipedia.
q mierda io creia q era un b18a1 o b18a2 no sabia q avia un b18b O_o = la wea es muy brutal wn me gustaria saber q le icieron a ese motor compadre quedo muy filete..
@ Warblade. How much does you're car weight? Without you that wouldn't be fair (Zing) but anyways, its making that much power pulling very light weight that is a powerful combo.
damn man sounds great. i just picked up an ef hatch with an ls swap i think im gonna go ls/vtec and then just build it all motor. what cams did you use the bc 272?
@NaziJewNikka The Miata is the slowest RWD car ever made. The GTI isn't exactly a fast car, and even when it was stock it was still a hell of a lot faster than a Miata. $600 for an additional 100 pound feet of torque is a waste of money? Lol, get real.
200hp in a tuned ls with amazing engine response and only weighing in at probably 950kgs 980kgs tops will absolutely shit on alot of performance cars on a circuit track. Power to weight ratio and balance is key to racing this civic doesn't need any more power then that. People are forgetting that Hondas were originally made for the corners not to go in straight lines.
Lol shit this thing could run 11s straight too
Is this better or would lsv be better?
My Japanese girlfriend in Cali, back when we were in high school in Santa Barbara, CA, was given a 1st gen Acura Integra in 87. That was the first time I made the Honda/Acura connection. I just KNEW the Acura line would blow up! My 94 Integra LS (non-vtec) has almost 200grand and still runs great with routine maint.
@imports247 Exact. The most powered NA hondas using Vtec engines as base, are upgraded without Vtec. See for example BTCC (British Touring Car Campionship) K20s: Their camshafts doesn't have the Vtec lobe. they are like Toda Vtec killer cams. Just high lifts and larger durations, as any NA rally car, kit car, etc.
Keep in mind that the Vtec is the key to run large durations in high RPMs without losing too much torque at lower range of revolutions. But it is not worth on highly mod'd engines.
definitely the most hardcore allmotor nonvtec ls ive ever seen, props on it! i always say build what you like. My buddies at school always rag on me since i took up this type of build
Wow it's like having Vtec in every rpm!!!!!!!!
it doesnt matter wether a car has 100hp or 400hp....if its built right and driven well it can be a very fast car....i have no problem with domestic cars, however, i do have a problem with most of the people that drive them because the only thing they can do is sit around saying that hondas and ac's are "gas savers" or "grocery getters" because theyre pissed off that on our way to the grocery store our little four cyl. that we spent maybe a 1/4 on the whole car that you spent just on gas last
@donvitolover182 who needs VTEC when you can get a proseries crower stage 2 or skunk 2 camshaft. This way the "high lobe" is always engaged and power is more even and readily available across the whole rpm band. Just my 2 bits
That makes no sense. The same air speed your trying to achieve by locking high lobe at lower rpms just means the engine is over working itself. The whole purpose of VTEC is to achieve optimum air velocity at certain rpms. Unless the engine is a full spec race engine your wasting your time and power
thats godly for an B18 non-v o.o
props man
Individual throttle bodys+RIGHT SIZE INJECTORS would put that motor in it's sweet spot
damn nice man wish i was pushin out 200qhp sept i get 160 out my b18a1
YES thank you i believe vtec is far over rated, haha Toda doesnt make vtec killers for no reason
Yes but a vtec head will still flow better than a non vtec
@@stevenervin4113 its vtec at all times. Its good for drag not track
Then you have ppl locking the vetch . The fastest 4 cylinder run no cam lifting
There is a non vtec head for the b18 that has the same size valves as the vtec head, I believe it’s called the pr8. That should be comparable to the vtec in flow but harder to find them then the normal p75 heads.
Put a vtec sticker on the car for an extra 50hp
Fucking sounds amazing
@pietjanhenk
No Acuras have slightly different engines but Acura and Honda are the same maker, Acura's just like a more luxurious version of Honda's , just pretty much the same thing.
Im not a fan of vtec so ibthink this is awsome! Im going ls turbo but wow thats good for all motor
dude love the build i have a 90 integra rs swap out the original b18a1 and put a new b18b1 i have a few upgrages and im runnin close to 200whp love non vtec motors
damn, nice build!
i hope to build my b18 soon.
b series FTW!
@david08106 Heck no! N/A power and response for track use. Slap your turbo in if you just want straight line racing.
hey man. if you could explain to me what you mean by building an ls motor that'd be awesome. my ls engine has 172K miles on it and is burning oil really fucking fast and i have feeling it's got about 30K miles left till it dies. what would you suggest? like just another ls b18b and get it installed? or what? i wanna bring more power out of this time but no turbo shit. got any ideas?
@NaziJewNikka
Haha, I already do. '11 GTI. Did you know when you change out the ECU software the engine produces 300 pound feet of torque at 3k RPM?
Instead of replacing every part on your Civic to make it go faster, why not just replace your Civic with a car that already goes fast in the first place?
What type of work is done to the head to get it to flow that high? Making power above 8k RPM with an LS head is not easy without forced induction so I have to give credit where it's due, this is certainly a well built/well thought out setup. I've always used VTEC heads for my all motor builds simply because they flow better in stock trim, and I'm kind of a maximum effort kind of guy. If I think I can get 200whp with an LS head, then I'm going to automatically be thinking howMuch more I can make with a VTEC head, and go that route. It's just how I operate. For the same reason, the only B series I have left is in my DC2 daily driver. My track toy now has 88x99 K power, just because I saw the maximum potential in that combo over any B series. Nice build man, props.
An all motor b20 with a p8r head would give most K's a surprise.... p8r heads flow as much air as b16's so you get the low, mid of nonVtec and top range of vtec... basically a nonvtec head ported out and polished from honda with bigger valves ...
I got my b18b up to 190hp @ 6800 (7800 redline) and 163 tq with OEM p30 pistons and a built head still on 93 and stock b20z manifold.... I'm the other end of the spectrum, I'm the underdog type....Givin the LS some.love, goin down the road less traveled.... mated it to a LS trans with GSR final drive and a quaife LSD and it's a competent, fun car. trackable, but my daily.
I'm interested in your build, can you describe it more? Are you on any forums?
U askin bout buddies K or my B series?
The B series.
WT0311 the extent of it was in my first comment....all motor, just a built head: bc0022 cams springs and retainers and p30 pistons, stock b18b crank and rods..... Really the tune and all the ancillary things that make it work right....hondata, cam gears, 7lbs flywheel, b16 crank pulley(factory undedrive with ac and p/s since it's smaller than b18b one), a stock b20z manifold (the weird lookin one with the torque box/resonance chamber on top) port matched, ported and polished with a 68 mm TB, CAI, biggest filter that fit in my bay(10"x6" really helps up top),colder plugs with 10mm wires,FPR, prelude injectors but with a walboro cranked up so the 290s really more like 310s, 2.5" exhaust to a mugen ITR twin loop, no cat, 4-2-1 comptech headers, and custom 3/4" TB and intake gasket made to help keep shit cool, blocked off all the water passages on the manifold too... bet there's more I'm missing cause I literally upgraded everything possibe but motor was basic...wanted a OEM/reliable daily so mixed and matched every possible honda part; crv,prelude,ITR, civic ... made a oem frankenstein that pushed165 hp/156 tq stock-ish w/just p30 pistons and the b20z head....
the p8r head and swapping everything over to a b20 is next, should be good for 220-ish since it basically a factory ported head and more displacement
@z06killer03mach1 just for the record.. acura is only the AMERICAN version of hondas, you go over to japan there is no such thing as an acura.. soo before you get all kno it all on people get yur facts straight, my b20 revss to 9500 :) shitssssss on errrrybodddy haha
it's a little funny how people are mentioning vtec, when the b18b is nonvtec. if it is then it should say lsvtec swap all motor. Either way its still impressive
@mopar43v3r
What HONDA comes with B18? None right? there for they are different engines, same maker and all but it comes in a different car. But yeah Acura engines are Honda engines. They say Honda Motor co in the cover lol
200 hp all motor b18b sound like awesome
@NaziJewNikka
It doesn't, I just stole the sticker from your 1-liter Honda Civic. I thought about taking your Autozone boost gauge too, but then how would you measure the vacuum in your intake manifold?
@Warblade118 Who cares what it weighs? You do realize, that weight is also a performance addition? Besides being the easiest and quickest way to gain performance, it also determines alot more. Also your logic makes no sense.
@NaziJewNikka
$600 for a junkyard turbo, good luck with that. Meanwhile I'll enjoy the GTI that's cheaper, more practical, and faster on the track.
A joke man that's like prob at least 220 to the crank compared to original 138 hp or 140hp that's a pretty good build man I bet it would beat what your runnin
hmm.. seems almost fully built. crazy to see that B series can only barely past the 200 hp range in NA and k20 already comes more than 200 hp stock..
car in the vid is a hatchback civic is it not?
Not a bad pull, last time I had my 98 rs on a dyno she pulled around 180 with just some boltons.
I dont want to read every comment because its all people talking crap about things they dont know.....whats all done to this so far ?
@Roger0416
i didn't knew that.
so Acura has a Honda engine under the hood?
Or has Acura placed there own nameplate on the engine?
@zbshogun my friend has a ek with a n/a ls motor and he did 230 whp.. the car is a beast.. too bad he doesnt have a video.
You sir have a point.
sounnds like chrooer cams, pistons, valve springs, retainers? prob new cam wheels too
@NaziJewNikka
And drive back to ask to ask him if he heard when V-TEC kicked in.
yea man im just going to turbo civic it has an LS swap in it
@pietjanhenk
Umm Acura and Honda are the same.... lol...
@Roger0416 No, Acuras have honda engines, plain and simple.
@211steel lol an f1 car idles at that speed
uhhh thats a civic ek hatch with an integra motor rofl
sounds like a honda vtec engine a little bit, or not?
@micpaniagua 200whp out of an ls is pretty damn good haha
@efyou89si i couldnt have said it better..
Any more info on this build?
sick nasty. who needs vtec anyway?
@CthAnGbby welll not taking sides but i have a all aluminum motor (its in a fleetwood) its weights nothing
@NaziJewNikka
What car do you drive? In your favorites are a bunch of civic videos and a how-to on repairing a carbon fiber hood. You probably have a Civic or Integra with 20hp worth of JDM on it. Whooptee-friggin-do.
The Minecraft videos should be a dead giveaway. Creative people have attention to detail. As a result, we're most likely going to buy the car that exhibits great attention to detail. Right now, the Mk6 GTI is one such car. And if I can afford that, is a $600 ECU flash improbable?
@NaziJewNikka
I guess you've never heard of APR. They're the ones racing GTIs and winning in the Grand-Am series. GoAPR dot com, go look for yourself. While you're there, check out the numbers for the K04 turbo tune, I'll be upgrading to that sometime next year :)
And to those saying you will never duplicate an LS torque curve with a VTEC engine, as soon as you equal the playing field and use an 89mm crank/stroke in a VTEC B series you get nearly identical power curves. This is one of the main reasons hybrid builds like LSVtec and B20VTEC are popular; better low and midrange power vs a standard VTEC b series but also the immense top end that a VTEC head provides.
@Roger0416 Hondas in Japan had B18s. Acura is just a US marketing decision. In Japan, there is no Acura, it's all Honda.
Does it work both ways can i tell people my Chevy impala is a Cadillac cts
Damnnn motors got balls
sounds like open headers
"Acura is the luxury vehicle division of Japanese automaker Honda Motor Company. The brand has been available in the United States and Canada since March 1986, marketing luxury, performance, and near-performance vehicles. It was introduced to Hong Kong in 1991, Mexico in 2004, and China in 2006. Honda's plan to introduce Acura to the Japanese market in 2008 was delayed, due to economic reasons, and later withheld as a result of the 2008 financial crisis."
Straight from Wikipedia.
and if im wrong i guess u can find like heaps of acuras that are right hand drive cause hey there everywhere and made in japan right lmao
LOl isnt that a civic
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@NaziJewNikka
Actually
Chip - $500
DownPipe to test pipe - $200
Intake - $100
so for 800 you would get about 60whp and 85-100lbs at least on the mk4s
you got the ford to lincoln backwards.lol I bet somebody else already commented but too bad.lol
with 4 cyl. the only way to go is turbo/supercharger with strong bottom end.
All that work just to make 200whp.
Buddy of mine bought a new minivan the other day that has 275hp.
uhh no. Honda is there cheap line tin cans. acura has better suspension all around better features loaded better etc.
@huertab18c5
A joke? Did you add 50% more HP to your naturally aspirated b18c5? No, I didn't think so.
@mentor2506
Smart man, Vtec is whatever, why not have the power from the start right?
q mierda io creia q era un b18a1 o b18a2
no sabia q avia un b18b O_o
= la wea es muy brutal wn me gustaria saber q le icieron a ese motor
compadre quedo muy filete..
savage.
In future, before telling people to do their research, you could maybe try doing some yourself.
Wow power all the way past 9k huh. Gotta be a huge cam. Either 404,405, or custom grind. Sounds nasty
Can you give me all the information on that build I have a Ls also and I want to do the same thing. Thanks
@ Warblade.
How much does you're car weight? Without you that wouldn't be fair (Zing) but anyways, its making that much power pulling very light weight that is a powerful combo.
damn man sounds great. i just picked up an ef hatch with an ls swap i think im gonna go ls/vtec and then just build it all motor. what cams did you use the bc 272?
your my inspiration thats what i want mine to be about 200whp just enough performance and ill be satisfied i want all motor
I think you meant Lincoln to Ford but good point overall.
build specs? sounds good and just wondering why you wint with the b18b1 to begin with?
thats a ek in the vid not a integra ?
@kBSbk
Damn... That's really high... Any problems? or is it all smooth?
@NaziJewNikka
I don't vote on videos. Nice try though.
This sounds awesome, why did you choose the B18b over the B18c?
nice b18!!
good to hear you added power to an all motor, and kept it non LS Vtec:P
@1skeeter505 it's vtec not "v-tec"
it sounds like the civic in NFS Underground 2
@NaziJewNikka
Why, can't aim past 6 feet?
hondas lol
shit is deadly
thing sounds like an f1
Which cam shaft do you install?
Lovin it man,sounds hella mean dude!!!
you mean lincoln to ford?
what is the head set up.
low 13's high 12's
nice powerband!
Sssss chulada y siendo ls
@NaziJewNikka
The Miata is the slowest RWD car ever made. The GTI isn't exactly a fast car, and even when it was stock it was still a hell of a lot faster than a Miata.
$600 for an additional 100 pound feet of torque is a waste of money? Lol, get real.
sounds like a weedwacker...
..
but i am still envious.
hahahahahaha
im so glad i got a b18b
wats ur cr i wanna know the highest you can run on pump gas
13:1 14:1 ??
So amazing!!!!!