This is becoming a lost art. People never fine tune their cam gears on these engines anymore and think the K series is a magical engine. Long live the B series! The H/B/F series engines are all capable. I’m sick of seeing K swaps into these classic EG, EK, and DC2’s. Thanks for the video. Hopefully this will motivate all of these lazy tuners out there. Especially the F series forums which is wrought with idiocracy. They think the F is maxed out. They couldn’t be more wrong. They just don’t understand the function of the cam gears and how to boost the high-mid power of their engines. Now they’re K swapping S2000’s left and right. It’s a sad day in modern Honda tuning but your garage is doing amazing things.
Except the K series IS a magical engine. ~ i-VTEC allows you to tune cam timing with a computer AND adjust it at any RPM. VTC is literally one of the greatest modern innovations in combustion engine design. ~ Honda made the K series their universal engine platform for 15 years. This means good used engines are cheap and plentiful now and in the foreseeable future. ~ H/B/F used engines are now hard to find because they were not made for as long of a time, and to boot not even all of them have VTEC which makes this problem worse. This is also why more S2000s are getting K-swaps. The F20C was a unique low-volume engine, and parts are either not as readily-available or are just more expensive than K parts. I respect the H/B/F platform as a diehard Honda fan myself. But you are smoking one if you think it's still the best Honda tuning platform. K is the way :]
Anyone who's driven an all motor B will know what's up. K's are wild, but the tuned NA B series will always have a spot in my heart, especially the type R's.
Help! I want to put a Bigger Engine in my Del Sol for fun not racing... i am looking at the 185 B16B JDM... I would like 220 hp but not sure... want a reliable solid engine.. Any recommendations? Thanks!
@@MikeKollin B18C6 or B18C7 would be my Pick for best of the B series But if you can't find or afford the JDM Type R dc2r engine, the B18C5 is Also a Great engine, Good for N/A will easily get you to the 200-220whp mark an 330-380whp as a turbo, (not using Dynojet figures)
@@jjsorenavki7005 Is this the engine you are talking about? They don't have any in stock right now! www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/b-series/b18c-96-98-typer-complete-change-over/
@@jjsorenavki7005 P.s. found the one, same HP and Torque but this one is a Long Block... i have no idea what the difference is as in would there be an advantage and if it would still fit in a Del Sol: www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/b-series/b18c-type-r-long-block-97-spec/
A exhaust and catch can would prolly help wit gains b20 blocks got no crank case ventilation getting that pressure out the head and block would deffently help also imo
Edgar have you ever dyno we have the same set up but I have a semi built b16 head type r cams with skunk2 cam gears with skunk 2 ultra mani and 74 throttle
=( i had a b20v in my DAP EK hatch that made 217 with gsc stage 2 cams, DVsprings, supertech valves, intake porting, on a stage 2 clutch..... it was so great...
@@Killmonger47213 yeah, so it was a bone stock B20B With PHK Pistons. No idea how it made 200+ with that block, but yeah, 217whp on a dynojet. Another Tuner ended up blowing up the motor after doing valve lash and adjusting timing. Something happened to where all of the valves touched the intake reliefs on all four Pistons, bent 4 valves, blew a hole in one piston and caused catastrophic failure to the whole motor. I sued them and won, despite signing a dyno waiver because THEY fucked up, still charged me 650 and vandalized the car after telling them it was their fault, not the motor. After explaining the reputation of the tuner (which I later found was HORRIBLE) The judge asked me, "so you drove the car there, almost an hour away, and.... Then you no longer had a functioning car less than an hour later" still lost a ton more in new parts, but I was awarded 1700 in damages, and he's been sued 3 times since.
Good stuff.. Nice to see some all motor B series content.. My stock bore 12.2 Compression LSVTEC makes almost the same power.. 220whp & 148tq on stock LS rods with Skunk2 Pro2s
Dyno video is on my channel when it made 217whp and 138tq with the Edelbrock Intake Manifold.. Gained 3whp and 10tq at the top but 5-15whp and tq throughout the band when I switched go the Skunk2 Ultra Street IM..
I recently swapped a jdm gsr into my del sol and took it to get it tuned, dude squeezed 201hp/ 143tq nothing done but Highend header and 2 1/2 in piping thing is very responsive I absolutely love the way it drives
Great video for showing AGAIN that peak horsepower does not tell the full story. Gaining 7-8 hp over the whole mid-range and losing 1 hp at the peak is a win. Trust good tuners!👍
That motor was bouncing alot just by hitting the rev limiter! That rear mount needs to be solid mount and whare it connects to the k member may have tear out going on or something? I would look at the mounts before axles start to break .. what was the cam numbers for the build why adjust cam gears if u just assembled the motor and had machine work to the block and stuff wouldn't you do all that shit and degree the cams before to the cam sheet or are you just doing whatever?? Sounds fishy but come down to Colorado Springs with that all motor and we can show you some all motor sickness anytime!!!
Original oil pump? What year of jdm b20b block is been used low com or high?shud make a video talking about b20 vtec setups..and si vs gsr head preferences
I like it simple build. I have a basic build as well, but only stock bottom w/arp rod & head stud and a ported b16 head with gsr cams everything else stock 8200rpm. 183whp on 2268lbs. Damn went I redo it this time I'll up the CR to at least 12:5 and hope for 220+ on e85 with pro2s
Can i mount the cam pulleys at zero degrees and tune them in dyno instead of getting the motor out and doing it the proper way with the cam card degreeing etc?
How can I get in touch with you guys ? My car is doing this weird thing were it idles fine then kind of drops like it want to cut off it’s not consistent though it’s not throwing any codes or check engine light btw it’s a 96 Honda Civic d16y8 sohc vtec
Kenny i love your editing style, the ONLY thing that would make it better would be a go pro mounted on the dash for reaction footage after the car has been tuned for some street driving. I would love to see some in action footage of all of Bolo's cars after they have been tuned. That goes for all of the customers cars also when they do their initial first drive after being on the dyno.
How much should cam degreeing normally cost, I'm exactly at the point were im building my own motor and slapped in stage 3 skunk2 cams and have to take it somewere for the degreeing but I'm lost dont know were to take it
FullMusic I would love to see that as well because I also have b16a2 motor but I think the majority of people opt to swap out the bottom end with either b18 or b20.
I feel like those numbers are pretty low for being on e85 my buddy has a 12.5:1 b20 vtec and it made 225 whp on 91 maybe it’s your altitude ? I know were only 150 meters above sea level
slayerracing440 it’s good numbers I’m not saying that but you should see 15-25 whp from e85 just from the extra timing you can run cause of the more volume of fuel and it’s a lot more knock resistance and being 13.5:1 when I have a buddy same set up but 12.5:1 on 91 pump making 5 more wheel I would of thought at least 240 wheel from the extra timing and better fuel and the extra compression but I guess every set up is different shoulda boosted it on 10-12 pounds and made 300 it has a good head and head studs pistons and rod bolts would of been pretty reliable just would of have got 10:1 pistons instead but that’s just my 2 cents
@@hseriesonlymonctonnb1181 same thing im saying, then again...they only said built head, we dont know wat cams he running. I was honestly looking fir more. My mechanic has a built b20, 12.5 compression with some pro 2 cams making240 out here in jamaica and we dont have that good e85 like u guys.pump 91
Brandon Brown it has cams there was a video of the build I can’t remember off the top of my head but high comp pistons with a head package shout of made more in my eyes we on 91 here to but elevation plays a big factor like for intense full bolt on h22 make 200 whp all day were I’m from and I seen a pfi speed video were they had one male 180 and they were saying they only make 150 whp in Colorado
so if you are looking to drop in adjustable cam gears with a motor already in the car, is this legit vs actually doing true tdc with the longblock out of the car?
@@humbleperformance let's say, I have a good built motor and just dropped in cam gears and went straight to the dyno to get everything adjusted. Would I still be good?
@@humbleperformance thanks for the quick reply. Basically, anyone who just slaps adjustable cam gears, get no full potential benefits from them unless done so. Thanks fam
Decent numbers for what it is. A bit disappointing. My H23vtec made 237whp on a stock block with pro1 cams pump93. Very simple. On 13:1 compression with pro2 and e85 probly easy 285whp. Glad I didn’t go b series.
Overrated K series and it’s cult following. It’s followers are clueless to the effects of variable valve tuning let alone how an engine using cam duration to produce horsepower.
More b-series all motor video if anymore come by. Great job. *****
This is becoming a lost art. People never fine tune their cam gears on these engines anymore and think the K series is a magical engine. Long live the B series! The H/B/F series engines are all capable. I’m sick of seeing K swaps into these classic EG, EK, and DC2’s. Thanks for the video. Hopefully this will motivate all of these lazy tuners out there. Especially the F series forums which is wrought with idiocracy. They think the F is maxed out. They couldn’t be more wrong. They just don’t understand the function of the cam gears and how to boost the high-mid power of their engines. Now they’re K swapping S2000’s left and right. It’s a sad day in modern Honda tuning but your garage is doing amazing things.
Yeah real art ... Removing the top of the timing belt and slightly turning the cams. Real art....
@@ABs70novalol
Except the K series IS a magical engine.
~ i-VTEC allows you to tune cam timing with a computer AND adjust it at any RPM. VTC is literally one of the greatest modern innovations in combustion engine design.
~ Honda made the K series their universal engine platform for 15 years. This means good used engines are cheap and plentiful now and in the foreseeable future.
~ H/B/F used engines are now hard to find because they were not made for as long of a time, and to boot not even all of them have VTEC which makes this problem worse. This is also why more S2000s are getting K-swaps. The F20C was a unique low-volume engine, and parts are either not as readily-available or are just more expensive than K parts.
I respect the H/B/F platform as a diehard Honda fan myself. But you are smoking one if you think it's still the best Honda tuning platform. K is the way :]
Amen brother!
a video explaining how to degree cams would be awesome
I agree.!!
yes please!
He says clearly to advance slowly? 🙄
Anyone who's driven an all motor B will know what's up.
K's are wild, but the tuned NA B series will always have a spot in my heart, especially the type R's.
Help! I want to put a Bigger Engine in my Del Sol for fun not racing...
i am looking at the 185 B16B JDM... I would like 220 hp but not sure... want a reliable solid engine..
Any recommendations? Thanks!
@@MikeKollin B18C6 or B18C7 would be my Pick for best of the B series But if you can't find or afford the JDM Type R dc2r engine, the B18C5 is Also a Great engine, Good for N/A will easily get you to the 200-220whp mark an 330-380whp as a turbo, (not using Dynojet figures)
@@jjsorenavki7005 Is this the engine you are talking about? They don't have any in stock right now! www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/b-series/b18c-96-98-typer-complete-change-over/
@@jjsorenavki7005 P.s. found the one, same HP and Torque but this one is a Long Block... i have no idea what the difference is as in would there be an advantage and if it would still fit in a Del Sol: www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/b-series/b18c-type-r-long-block-97-spec/
@@MikeKollin Most of the engines from that site are out of Stock Mike,
A exhaust and catch can would prolly help wit gains b20 blocks got no crank case ventilation getting that pressure out the head and block would deffently help also imo
Craig Voll I see you know what your talking about
Don’t see too many with AC these days. I still got mine 93 hatch. Cold ass
B20v FTW.. Congrats BOLO!!!
Depends what setup u do on the B20v b20v can make 264 hp on 13:1 high compression pistons
I got a b16 head to slap on my b20 with p30 pistons should come out to 13:1 but i wanna do it on pump 93. No idea what the dyno will be.
Edgar have you ever dyno we have the same set up but I have a semi built b16 head type r cams with skunk2 cam gears with skunk 2 ultra mani and 74 throttle
Edgar I’m gonna tune on e85 hoping for 220
There’s always that one comment
@@moustachio334yep always the negativity spreading dickhead just because he can :)
I don’t even subscribe for the content I subscribe for the intro 😍
Bolo sounds like bobo. If you know who that is, you’d get why I am making the reference
What set of cams?
=( i had a b20v in my DAP EK hatch that made 217 with gsc stage 2 cams, DVsprings, supertech valves, intake porting, on a stage 2 clutch..... it was so great...
Gickels McDoogle it was stock bottom end??
@@Killmonger47213 yeah, so it was a bone stock B20B With PHK Pistons. No idea how it made 200+ with that block, but yeah, 217whp on a dynojet.
Another Tuner ended up blowing up the motor after doing valve lash and adjusting timing. Something happened to where all of the valves touched the intake reliefs on all four Pistons, bent 4 valves, blew a hole in one piston and caused catastrophic failure to the whole motor.
I sued them and won, despite signing a dyno waiver because THEY fucked up, still charged me 650 and vandalized the car after telling them it was their fault, not the motor.
After explaining the reputation of the tuner (which I later found was HORRIBLE)
The judge asked me, "so you drove the car there, almost an hour away, and.... Then you no longer had a functioning car less than an hour later" still lost a ton more in new parts, but I was awarded 1700 in damages, and he's been sued 3 times since.
Gickels McDoogle damm what shop with this?? And what state?
@@EgHatchK24a2 Maryland. Rhymes with Mynetick Cartoworks. For obvious reasons, I would prefer not to disclose in plain text :/
Gickels McDoogle wow bro that’s crazy .. there are trash ppl out there .. had a trash tuner before to 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Damn as ps and cruise still !
I have a recent video on a 2016 Turbocharged crz, let me know what u think about it.. love from #LOU2U2 💗
That’s impressive horse power for a b20V I love it!
Love the intro, you guys are awesome I’m in Florida if you guys was closer I would definitely have some car work done from you guys. 💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Love the b series
Good stuff.. Nice to see some all motor B series content.. My stock bore 12.2 Compression LSVTEC makes almost the same power.. 220whp & 148tq on stock LS rods with Skunk2 Pro2s
What pistons?
@@RACEALOTGARAGE Supertech..
Dyno video is on my channel when it made 217whp and 138tq with the Edelbrock Intake Manifold.. Gained 3whp and 10tq at the top but 5-15whp and tq throughout the band when I switched go the Skunk2 Ultra Street IM..
My b20v stock block built head oem intake mani makes 220whp 155tq
@@klkk3382 what she trap? Et
What is you final cam gears setting? +1 exhaust and 0 intake?
I recently swapped a jdm gsr into my del sol and took it to get it tuned, dude squeezed 201hp/ 143tq nothing done but Highend header and 2 1/2 in piping thing is very responsive I absolutely love the way it drives
Daaang! BTB for the Win!! haha hope everyones doing well ✌
Definitely happy with my B20V all motor numbers! Solid numbers and not squeezing the crap out the build. Nice content here.
What did u make
I like the K series builds but B series has its own little charm to it and simplicity
these hondas are LOUD put a damn quieter muffler on omg
Loving seing some B20V making sweet juice
Yes just what I have been looking for cam tuning
Great video for showing AGAIN that peak horsepower does not tell the full story. Gaining 7-8 hp over the whole mid-range and losing 1 hp at the peak is a win. Trust good tuners!👍
That motor was bouncing alot just by hitting the rev limiter! That rear mount needs to be solid mount and whare it connects to the k member may have tear out going on or something? I would look at the mounts before axles start to break .. what was the cam numbers for the build why adjust cam gears if u just assembled the motor and had machine work to the block and stuff wouldn't you do all that shit and degree the cams before to the cam sheet or are you just doing whatever?? Sounds fishy but come down to Colorado Springs with that all motor and we can show you some all motor sickness anytime!!!
💪🔥All Motor Baby!🔥💪
www.reddit.com/r/crx/comments/f6y8je/today_is_2202020_show_off_your_b20_on_a_stand/
Can someone explain to me why you would spend all the money on a car to get it running on e85 too only leave it all# motor and only get 220WHP?
Is it necessary to run the GSR girdle when building b20v or LSv
No..
Original oil pump? What year of jdm b20b block is been used low com or high?shud make a video talking about b20 vtec setups..and si vs gsr head preferences
Nice video 👍
I like it simple build. I have a basic build as well, but only stock bottom w/arp rod & head stud and a ported b16 head with gsr cams everything else stock 8200rpm. 183whp on 2268lbs. Damn went I redo it this time I'll up the CR to at least 12:5 and hope for 220+ on e85 with pro2s
Whats the compression and cam set-up?
Can i mount the cam pulleys at zero degrees and tune them in dyno instead of getting the motor out and doing it the proper way with the cam card degreeing etc?
Awesome 👏🏼 what cams are In this setup ?
What cams are those? Thanks in advance
How can I get in touch with you guys ? My car is doing this weird thing were it idles fine then kind of drops like it want to cut off it’s not consistent though it’s not throwing any codes or check engine light btw it’s a 96 Honda Civic d16y8 sohc vtec
13.5:1 and e85 making 220?
What cams brand it has and ecu ? Wanna do this to stock b20 ..
I want to make 200 plus n my B20v need more video of all motor Vtec b-series
Kenny i love your editing style, the ONLY thing that would make it better would be a go pro mounted on the dash for reaction footage after the car has been tuned for some street driving. I would love to see some in action footage of all of Bolo's cars after they have been tuned. That goes for all of the customers cars also when they do their initial first drive after being on the dyno.
What kind of injectors?
How much should cam degreeing normally cost, I'm exactly at the point were im building my own motor and slapped in stage 3 skunk2 cams and have to take it somewere for the degreeing but I'm lost dont know were to take it
Same engine b20v
EM1! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Hey humble do more videos on all motor setup for b16a2
FullMusic I would love to see that as well because I also have b16a2 motor but I think the majority of people opt to swap out the bottom end with either b18 or b20.
Sentree i know i been thinking for a while to do try b20 bottom or b18 but idk ... I really love b16 cuz is a little engine but it moves
I feel like those numbers are pretty low for being on e85 my buddy has a 12.5:1 b20 vtec and it made 225 whp on 91 maybe it’s your altitude ? I know were only 150 meters above sea level
E85 really doesn't make a difference from my experience on a setup like this. My GSR makes about the same power on motor, good #'s
slayerracing440 it’s good numbers I’m not saying that but you should see 15-25 whp from e85 just from the extra timing you can run cause of the more volume of fuel and it’s a lot more knock resistance and being 13.5:1 when I have a buddy same set up but 12.5:1 on 91 pump making 5 more wheel I would of thought at least 240 wheel from the extra timing and better fuel and the extra compression but I guess every set up is different shoulda boosted it on 10-12 pounds and made 300 it has a good head and head studs pistons and rod bolts would of been pretty reliable just would of have got 10:1 pistons instead but that’s just my 2 cents
All depends on the cams also!
@@hseriesonlymonctonnb1181 same thing im saying, then again...they only said built head, we dont know wat cams he running. I was honestly looking fir more. My mechanic has a built b20, 12.5 compression with some pro 2 cams making240 out here in jamaica and we dont have that good e85 like u guys.pump 91
Brandon Brown it has cams there was a video of the build I can’t remember off the top of my head but high comp pistons with a head package shout of made more in my eyes we on 91 here to but elevation plays a big factor like for intense full bolt on h22 make 200 whp all day were I’m from and I seen a pfi speed video were they had one male 180 and they were saying they only make 150 whp in Colorado
Alot of money for 200hp... better off with a k
What kinda cams where these
Hseries all motor? Yall should test and tune some
Oh sh.t I almost missed this upload .been busy but I m here now doggies yup
Would it make a difference if it had locked vtec Or is it better to run vtec?
That dude's a dope tuner
wasnt the cams zeroed a 200hp run?
Yoooo where the pullls?!
These guys are goated
☝️🇻🇮🇻🇮🇻🇮 Orlando Florida in the house
wheel hp and wheel torque? Or engine torque?
I actually enjoyed this video..good info in here
Seen this car at autozone in Tulsa was still looking nice.
I wish my EJ1 B20VTEC had A/C 🙉
what cams were used for this demonstration?
You guy keep up the good work and stay safe how much hp did his B16 make please cause have one ill like to build
The graph showed about 155 whp
so if you are looking to drop in adjustable cam gears with a motor already in the car, is this legit vs actually doing true tdc with the longblock out of the car?
You have to do both
@@humbleperformance let's say, I have a good built motor and just dropped in cam gears and went straight to the dyno to get everything adjusted. Would I still be good?
You need to degree the motor to know where the cams can be advanced safely.
@@humbleperformance thanks for the quick reply. Basically, anyone who just slaps adjustable cam gears, get no full potential benefits from them unless done so. Thanks fam
@@humbleperformance another thing, to do true tdc, motor has to be out?
Its looking real fast and furious! #NeedsUnderglow
That a 4p head? What cams?
Following for cam spec. 😊
It's in the description if you haven't looked just looking out for you
Surely they weren't skunk2 stage 2 cams, they sound way different
Nice video , keep pushing and building
Very goog job💪 when other in k20 vtc😜
Idol Bolo... All motor my dream built engine...
What intake mani was that the short or long Vic?
B gang
K killer..😁😁😁😁😁😁.. Por que no el kkk😁😁😁😁
Well said! Brotha!.. nice video
Can i work for you haha
Congrats bolo killer bseries
👍👍👍👍
B series is still alive!
Just feedin her the corn
When adjusting cam gear, do you need to readjust valve lash
Not normally. It’s more of valve overlap that becomes a problem.
@@moustachio334 So at one point too much advanced will gradually damage your valvetrain ?How much is the advance now ?
What came he running?
16 mad tuners
Sounds nice too.
Great vid love it!
I made it (337)
B series sounds so sweet
Stock cams?
Beautiful car
Ese Bolo!
K-killer
B serie!! Yeahh
What state his is this shop in
eric peterson I wanna say Oklahoma but I forget could probably google humble performance and it’ll come up.
Good work!
🔥
Decent numbers for what it is. A bit disappointing. My H23vtec made 237whp on a stock block with pro1 cams pump93. Very simple. On 13:1 compression with pro2 and e85 probly easy 285whp. Glad I didn’t go b series.
Bruhhhh ...hell yes ! K killer lol
Overrated K series and it’s cult following. It’s followers are clueless to the effects of variable valve tuning let alone how an engine using cam duration to produce horsepower.
Swap k24 if u want to see hp gain
+0 exhaust +4 intake ls vtec