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Elite: Dangerous - new enhancements in my 3 projector setup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2015
- Hi! After a few months I now show You my latest enhancements of my Elite:Dangerous setup:
- Now 5 Tablets instead of 3 with Roccat Power Grid and self designed buttons (www.roccat.org/...)
- 6 additional real buttons with ingame functions and separeted adjustable illumination
- 2 bass shakers
Setup:
Projektors: 3 x BenQ TH681 Full HD 3D DLP
Touch-Interface: Selfbulit dashboard with 5 Treckstor Ventos 10.1 Surftabs, Software: Roccat Power Grid
Voice-Interface: VoiceAttack Software mit Voice-Feedback
Headtracker: TrackIR (not in use in the video)
Gesture control: LeapMotion Controller
HOTAS Joystick: Saitek X52 Pro
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Gaming Keyboard
Grafik: Crossfire 2x Sapphire RADEON R9 290 Tri-X OC, connected with AMD Eyefinity, Resolution 5760 x 1080
Sound: Logitech z 5500 5.1
Event-listener and macro editor: Autohotkey (www.autohotkey....)
Hight of projector: 2,35m
Distance projector to wall: 2,00m
Diagonal (projector to lowest point on the wall):ca 2,30m
Screensize per screen (W x H): 1,8m x 1,0m
Screen-diagonal: 80'' (2,03m)
My controls in the tablets:
left tablet: open left panel, Shield cell, Chaff launcher, Heat sink, ECM (if Frontier provides a hotkey)
front-left tablet: Shield+Weapon Power mode, Engines Power mode, Weapons Power mode (Shortcuts and makros), Next subtarget, previous subtarget, Kill Warrant Scanner (works without further interaction), previous weapon, next weapon, select subtarget "Power Plant" automatically (makro wichs activates 8 times previous subtarget action)
front tablet: Shield+Weapon Power mode, Engines Power mode, Weapons Power mode, equalize power, increase weapons/engines/systems, increase/decrease Scanner range, Communicaten, Flight assist
front-right tablet: Silent running, landing gear, Next System in route
right tablet: open right panel, FSD, Map, System Map, Search System (small macro), Request Docking (qick macro 1.5s)
This is totally unnecessary and overkill. I like it!
To those who keep saying "use VR" "get a Rift" etc realize that he posted this video in March of 2015 - there was no Rift at the time (save for the somewhat crappy DK2). Also realize that some greatly prefer setups like this over a Rift as not only is the scale incredible but getting to use all the real buttons and screens ass massively to the immersion. Finally he clearly has enjoy putting all this together and customizing everything he did, all of which is essentially impossible in VR (unless you're a game/software modder). I have a Rift but still prefer to use my 3 27" displays for certain titles, namely Dirt Rally and Project Cars.
To each their own. I'm the opposite. I ran 3 x 47" TVs for racing simulators, and anything else that can utilize that. Had playseat and ForceFeedback wheel for as much immersion as possible. That is now rendered obsolete by VR, for the purpose of full immersion.
I agree the button arrangements and such can add to the immersion, and he definitely has an epic setup, but if the purpose is basically feeling like you're completely in the game, I feel VR (when done right) gives the best experience.
** I do want to amend another point. Not everyone is comfortable playing in VR, and motion sickness is a real issue. So for people who have a hard time with fast motion VR in long duration, these large screen setups are still the way to go.
I absolutely agree about immersion in VR, in fact I've built an extensive setup just to accomplish that. Not only VR but a Obutto cockpit, HOTAS/pedals, ButtKicker and Motion seat. If you're curious I wrote an *extensive* guide about it here - forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/287162-Building-The-Most-Immersive-Elite-Dangerous-Simulator-An-Extensive-Guide
Whoa, that's awesome! No wonder you keep going back to your 3 monitor setup.. you neglected to mention you have a motion seat setup! lol. Great job!
Yeah, it's a fun setup. While I like the motion it was a more incremental upgrade than I expected. I'm actually using it more with Elite than racing and it also works with the rollercoaster game No Limits 2. VR + Motion + Rollercoasters = AWESOME.
There are also people that do not enjoy VR at all, it might be because it causes them nausea or dizzyness, or they just don't feel comfortable to blindfold themselves from their surroundings. There could be so many reasons why not even if this was 2019.
That is without a doubt one of the coolest things I have ever seen for this game!
Very nice. I appreciate the work you put into this. Not sure why all the nitpicking and haters on here going after your spelling and grammar. Others complain about the expense and wonder at your rig versus using the Occulus Rift. It is a personal preference, folks. The Rift is amazing but it isn't for everyone. Locally, here in Clearwater, Florida, we have a flight and racing simulation company that has full mockups of racing bikes, Formula One cars, and several jets, both commercial and military. They charge upwards of $120 an hour. This guy can play 24/7 without an appointment. Don't understand why people can't just appreciate the effort this guy put into his hobby--it's his money.
I also want to add that motion sickness exists, which makes VR gaming virtually impossible
@Vincent Blankenburg the good news is developers across the spectrum, commercial, gaming, military, are coming out with better ways to address VR sickness. I am prone to it myself. I got educated and now it's rarely an issue. I keep ginger ale close and limit my time on games that affect me.
Some people rag on those who build things like this, what they are missing is it's not just to enjoy the games more - it's actually a lot of fun and design and build something truly your own and it does not necessarily cost that much depending on what you decide to build but my point is, it can be as fun or even more fun building and tinkering with soemthing like this than playing a game on it - Bravo on your cockpit sir - o7
Three decent projectors and five pads _is_ a lot of money, but people spend that much on beer at the pub each year without anyone batting an eye.
9 months on, first time seeing this and I'm honestly surprised the amount of flak this guy is getting. I am super new to E:D but I wish I had the technical know how (and funds) to build something like this because this is super cool and honestly probably adds a lot of personality to his own experience playing the game!
prolly the same people who buy 500-1000 usd joysticks to mine in solo are the ones talking shit haha... always is
@@CmdrTigerKing Why would someone that spends a lot themselves talk shit? Sounds more like something a ganker would do.
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It truely gives a felling of "Don't touch me you filthy casual"
Now Bow it's called VR to be honest, this is an incredible way to spend a lot of money, but so is putting a deposit on a house. Master race? Your just human beings with less important things to do
Now Bow master race is having a stunning wife, a nice car and a huge house. Owning a PC is just owning a PC. It's just plastic and cold metal.
Ive never seen a down payment on a decent house cost less than 20k. Maybe 10k if it needs to be repaired and remodeled. Are you really suggesting he spent anywhere near the amount of a downpayment on a house?
Now imagine porn on it
@@TheGamerTim jealous
You my friend have an amazing imagination and spectacular talent well done you now made me jealous :)
TheBF3prodigy Thank You very much!
TheBF3prodigy It's not talent as much as it is a lot of money. None of this is overly complicated to put together, it's just time consuming and expensive.
***** jELLY MUCH?
***** You have a tough enough time putting Legos together with instructions, never mind something like this setup. You Jelly son.
***** You SO jelly bro. L2R also, OP's comment was how spectacularly talented this guy that created this is. You so Jelly you can't even comprehend English.
Markus, All I can say is vorsprung durch technik. This is amazing brother, well done!
Greetings from Australia :)
Fantastic setup and a great job! Just a suggestion though, paint or put some black mate vinyl paper on the tables that surround the setup so the light coming from the screens aren't reflected.
Wow!!! I am jealous!!! An amazing bit of creative engineering, this is something that an old techie like me can appreciate. I applaud your efforts!!!
That's a great setup.
Note: To those who are saying just get a VR headset. It should be noted that not everyone is going to be able to use them. Some of us get motion sickness pretty easily.
+forcryingoutloud71 Thx! Have You seen my latest update? th-cam.com/video/1OioywbXfnU/w-d-xo.html
Everyone who sais VR is better do not know about Track IR, Tobii, or Open track. That gesture side panel action is crazy man i like it!
I just got this game - I'm on one monitor, keyboard, & mouse on a 42in. Decided to wonder if people had custom setups.
Found this - w.o.w.
NIce setup my friend
thx a lot! 42in is also a good perspective :-)
This is the definition of immersive gameplay! Well done
The game should have a triple display config. It would prevent it to "turn the head" to see the right and left OSDs when using 3 displays. Just turn your own head. ;)
+Gustavo R. Dreyer It has an option that does just that. It prevents the game from focusing on the left/right displays when you activate them; They just pop up where they are. It's meant for VR Headset users, but it works just as well for triple display setups.
It has.
I know this is an old vid but i had to comment. This is EPIC!!! Ive never seen anything like this, and ive seen lots of Elite set ups. Truly incredible, you have an incredible talent because this can't have been an easy thing to make and set up!!!
While nothing can compete or compare at all with the immersion of even an old VR like an OG Rift cv1 vs triple monitors or projectors, let alone newer VR headsets like the reverb g2 and index, BUT ...this is still very, very cool. Especially circa 2015. Good times.
Cool setup man. I have no intention of creating my own simpod but I always enjoy seeing these elaborate, diy efforts and this is one of the better ones I've seen. Good job.
this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen for elite dangerous... no just flight simulation in general... mad respect to you good sir
thx! As you can see here, I had optimized some things in the past :-) th-cam.com/video/1OioywbXfnU/w-d-xo.html
You're living the life.
All you need is some sort of hydraulic system for your chair, or something that will somehow react to ship movement.
Ever heard of voice attack? Voice commands for inputs. Works amazing. Just talk to your ship. Example, say Landing Gear and your landing gear deploys. Amazing. Couldn't fly without it.
I appreciate many people have touched upon this but as incredible a feat of engineering this is, the VR setup I use, will do me just fine. Saying that, the skill put into creating this has to be, must be commended! Great job!
Pretty cool.
I had a dual projector setup to play Fallout 3 and Vegas like this back in the day. Projectors were on camera stands (two cheap Benq GP1's) and every few days i had to realign them, so i get why this is a nice experience. When asked, i told my friends that i measure my screen resolution in square meters, not pixels :)
After a while suddenly the left projector "died" and went all green, after than i went back to single screen. Now i got a larger single LED projector for browsing and streaming, and gaming is 100% VR. I just wish the FOV was better in VR, really miss that.
This is one of the coolest Elite Dangerous setups I've seen on here.
Very nice! great work! And yes regarding TrackIR...when I had a 160deg setup I did still use TrackIR to look up (fly more simulations) but that also meant left and right became only a peripheral view since the image was turning towards me. In Elite you can get away without looking up so I agree this doesn't need TrackIR. Except maybe a gentle vertical only unless looking right or left affects the vertical curves then too much.
This man after outfitting his ship was disappointed he couldn't outfit his cockpit in game so he did it in real life. Kudos commander! o7
That's a fine piece of kit you've created for yourself there. Great job.
This is very cool, you totally remind me of my days when I used the steel battalion setup for that game on the original Xbox ; having allot of physical controls really do add up to immersion; especially with this kind of screen setup. I thought you had no head-tracking at all because you have so much vertical space in your screen setup that you thought it wasn't nescerry, But looking at your description you still have it. I think head tracking makes it more immersive (especially the way the holo UI compensates for your location in say the docking menu etc.) and just all-round helpful fighting nimble fighters. The bass speakers in your seat is amazing, reminds me of how they did that kinda stuff in 80's arcades !
Now, control is something that's very very personal. Everybody has a different preference. Personally, between the X52 Pro and the steelseries keyboard (have the same one) but even just the X52 itself ; you should have more than enough mappable buttons to leave your hand on the sticks at all times during dogfights. Navigating to and from left and right holo; can be done really quickly on the stick. You also have head-tracking which can activate left or right holo menu's.
I think for competitive play; your hand gestures for the left & right holo; and some other things you use the control panels you built for (i.e quickly having to switch your hand from stick to panel and back) is a bad idea against advanced players where you can't afford that time lag.
That's my only two cents ; as i said. Control is personal so I respect your space :)
As pointed out by some other people, I'd love to see them release an API for the controls 3rd party software could interface with.
This. Is. Freaking. Incredible.
I am in awe.
...also very envious.
Impressive, creating a setup like that to trade, to kill, to prosper in the inky depths of space.
Then suddenly!
"Markus, your dinner is ready."
"Aww Mum, I haven't docked yet."
+CoversMonkey Hihi, Yes that´s right beside the fact that my mother is living hundreds of miles away^^
This is inspirational man thanks for uploading your setup, it has definitely helped me crystallise what I want to achieve with my own.
Markus, this is awesome! Thanks for showing this all off!
Thx! Did You see my neewer build (th-cam.com/video/1OioywbXfnU/w-d-xo.html)?
I'm sure your setup will change a ton once VR comes out. I really hope the leap motion has more capabilities in the near future. Using your hand to select menu screens while wearing the Oculus would be absolutely amazing!
this comment didn't age well...
I was going to be smart and say "why not just buy 1 Occulas Rift?" but actually your setup is MUCH better with the keyboard Joysticks, and custom touch pads in easy view. The downside of OR is that you can't see anything in the real world. Kudos to you. Nice setup.
WOW. This is awesome. I've never played the game but this is next level!!
No! This is better: th-cam.com/video/1OioywbXfnU/w-d-xo.html
A newer build :-)
agreed!
Look up "Star Citizen"
yeah star citizen looks like it'll be great when it eventually comes out
Matt You can play it now. And go look up their GamesCom demo. (that demo is 100% in game, live, nothing added. And will be playable by December.)
You are a madman!
Really need to get the side menus on tablets so you don't have to turn the view focus toward them ingame!
Messed with a little stuff like this and felt brilliantly obsessed but maybe ill also. This makes me feel quite normal.I once got called a space-cadet by the top jock and many wedgies followed. Permanently damaged? Nope-thanks to Markus. A little bind here, a little notes/diagram there. A quick homemade mount maybe, a button riser- I'm fine doc. My eyes are a little watery cause I'm normal and cause the Markus project invokes a Star Trek flashback=Ensign Harry Kim: I think it's safe to say that... no one on this crew has been more... obsessed with getting home than I have. But... when I think about... everything we've been through together - maybe it's not the destination that matters. Maybe it's the journey. If that journey takes a little longer, so we can do something we all believe in, I can't think of any place I'd rather be, or any people I'd rather be with.
Tom Paris: To the journey.
Chakotay: Hear, hear.
All: To the journey.
I am going to have wet dreams about this :3 Only thing I think could make it better is TrackIR to replace the hand gestures.
Also, Cockpit > Oculus Rift.
***** The less stuff you have to wear on your head, the better. Feels much more real in the cockpit too.
+AirCommando12 I went from a 3 screen setup to one, with a TrackIR. It's better.
Nate Kennison Nice :)
Would 3 with TrackIR not be better than one with TrackIR?
I used my trackir with my 3 screens, I still prefer the one. Granted, the 3 were 24 inch and the one is 40 inch. It was cool, It gave a bit of immersion, but the one is better for me. You never actually look at the side screens since they're so distorted from the FOV, it's all for periphery. It's a lot of money to spend when VR headsets are coming out soon. BTW, elite with oculus is the way to go for sure. It's incredible.
***** Not really. Cockpits are much better. VR is more for FPS and sometimes racing, but I think I would still take a cockpit for racing.
how are the rest of us supposed to compete with this guy in pvp
+dafrandle Hi! I´m really bad in PVP, I suppose :-) I prefer to play solo or group, but not PVP.
Markus B. but if you were good.....
+dafrandle Frankly most of his setup is there to improve immersion within the game, how good he is with the joystick is a different matter.
Isak Melander yes but in the process he has a large view angle (and trackir) and easy to reach easy to identify buttons for many ship functions - in keys that are big enough that you don't need to look at them to be sure you hit the right one.
he would have an an advantage over me
+dafrandle I have triple screens and trackIR. Still suck at PvP. lol
Congratulations, its looks awesome! a lot of hard work has been put here!
Very nice set up. All you are missing a moving chair to follow the movements on the screen, but then it would be a carnival ride. lol... Still kudos, you have the heart of a true sci fi enthusiast. Thanks for sharing your vision with us, its superb!
Sweet! Awesome Job! You would be the guy to make the next million designing a flight carriage that moves to the motion of the joystick! That would be tight!
fabulous, your dashboard that you built is amazing.
You put a lot of work into this, and it looks cool. Anyone that says they wouldn't want to have this set-up are probably just jealous. So kudos! The only critical comments- the game/sim doesn't look that interesting. Also, how immersive is the audio-I couldn't hear much of that. Nicely done!
+Sean Sepstead thank You! The audio is a Logitech z 5500 5.1. The bests PC 5.1 sound system I think. But my options to record the sound are very limited...
Its awesome and respecting your technical skills to build up something like this. I wont be able to do this and enjoy the game as it should be. However, bit jealous that I dont have it but wont be able to use it as you just put some passion into it and enjoying your hard work. However, this would be fun if the ED guys wont bring enough content to this game, hence after 1700+ hours I am missing community goals and some other things. To explore there is more than enough all humanity until next 10 decades :)
1) This is amazing
2) Thank you for the info about Power Grid. I was looking for exactly this sort of app
3) With people & set ups like yours, no wonder I get my arse handed to me on a plate in ED ;-)
+Hedley Phillips You´re welcome :-)
Oculus Rift plus Voice Attack blows this away. Doesn't matter how many screens you have or how big they are. There's simply no substitute for playing Elite Dangerous in Virtual Reality.
You exaggerated so much! And I fuckin love it, this game CANNOT be MORE immersive! Absolutely amazing.
Great Job!!! I found this by searching for VR, but I totally would go for something like this instead of VR! Amazing!
Sick setup man!! To all the people telling him to buy a rift headset, I'm sure he considered it and I'm confident if he had wanted one he would be using one. I have a triple projection setup myself but this blows it out of the water. Great work.
+David Brewer I couldn´t have said it better and shorter. thx! :-)
This setup is amazing. Late, I know, but excellent work... I'd love to have a gaming room like this someday
This is amazing. Totally gloriously bonkers, but that's part of the charm. The only way it could be better is if the side panels could be made to show on the outer monitors, rather than have them shift to the front screen. Probably not possible, but being able to look left to the panel without it filling the main screen would be the immersion icing on the cake.
i tried everything, but it doesn´t work good. :-(
Jesus Christmas that's beautiful.
I still can't imagine any experience being better than my oculus, but this is still amazing.
This gives off the : oh yea i played the game for 10000 hours kinda vibe.
I don't know what fucking is it but... THIS IS AWESOME!!!
I love it !!!!!!!!!! It is so nice to see someone having fun and loving it
Your setup is definitely way more interesting than the game itself!
GoodGameHunter Well the game is about half done. I hope to see more from it soon, like things outside the ship a bit. At least being able to walk around the multi-crew ships. I think they are working on the meta-game factions and whatnot stuff right now...you know the stuff I am not that interested in, ha. I am sure some people are loving it.
now thats a cockpit great work man
Whoa !! Insane i am officially doing this !! U are a genius i can finally go to space almost for real !!
I for one love this set up! Although I am a fan of VR, I think this looks far more immersive with all the buttons and sticks. If I had the space (And lots of cash), I'd love to do this!
look into IR head tracking (TrackIR 5 PRO) instead of the motion gesture control, that would be so friggin immersive! nice setup! :)
That is fucking incredible. Well done, sir.
I have VR and i can say its way better in SOME ways but not all. Set ups like this will always appeal to people because we like to see out hardware and make it all pretty and enjoy it lol but seriously well done dude and im well jelly. Sub well earned for amazing imagination. Just a thought but what would be amazing is if we could get to the type of tech that uses both VR and real life and mix the two, i know its called mixed reality but what i mean is we wear a VR headset then we can choose to let the camera see say our dashboards and instruments in real life but in VR. If you get what i mean, like you can play in VR but still see you own real instuments and interact with them like how it looks when VR TH-camrs use a green screen to mix real with VR but thats a long way off i suspect
That is off the charts awesome man!
About to build a cockpit and go the hosas route. Very nice setup
Well, very impressive, no doubt about that!
FRacking awsome setup man ! AWSOME!
i don't play the game but i just imagine meeting this guy in pvp
This is a damn nice setup! Good Job! :)
I am ridiculously jealous.
Facts!
Cries in PlayStation player. Haha, awesome setup. I honestly hope to have a setup for sims of all sorts like this.
woow nice job the one you've done there. CONGRATS!!!
I have never seen this before but even by today's standard that is more immersion than I can handle
It would be more courteous to turn ship lights on after getting docking clearance to help people going in / out of the station. Then turn them off as you have landed to not blind the ground crew. Reverse this on exit. That's what I do.
It's 2019, I just finally started the game, and this is godly to me.
Here is May 2020 I hope you enjoy the game in the future you will need something to do at home.
I love this so much. I can't even imagine how much it cost
What I would eventually like to see in a setup (and in compatibility with 3 monitors) is where you can have head tracking, but the screen position stays the same. When you look at the left screen the left UI opens, and the same for the right. But instead of tracking the position of the camera in game, it just makes the UI open on the side of the screen, so that it feels more natural as a cockpit.
+ChasterBeef Hi, there is an option in the graphic settings of ED to get the demanded screen behaviour and combined with a special head tracking software You can use it like You want. But unfortunately the screens are placed at the sides and the ED-Field of View ist mostly to the front, so You´ll never see a side screen completely. Too bad!
+Markus B. Could you still tell me which setting this would be, and how to set it up? I'm still new to Elite Dangerous so I don't know all of the settings yet. Thanks for telling me anyways!
Very nice rig. My last simulator was similar, and included 4 networked PCs and a 7 foot screen. But once I tried ED in VR, the old simulator became moot and was disassembled shortly after. VR makes the best simulator seem...meh. And I say that even tho my last simulator actually had a working HUD and touch panel controls.
That is one awsome hardcore gaming set up..... well played to ya!!!
Wow this is insane... Only thing i could think to add would be voice attack and head tracking, wow this was two years ago too 😀
I like the MOTHER OF GOD response. MOTHER OF GOD THIS IS AWESOME>
Wow. This is life goals right here
Absolutely amazing setup. Right On Commander. :)
Needs my SoundPack files incorporated into it. Armed! Disarmed! Fire! S41t is about to get real!
damn dude that is one kick ass set up congrats....
Just.. wow.. the immersion is unreal. I wonder how it would be with 3D projectors like the Epison Cinema HD (wireless HDMI) series. I may attempt something like this in the future. again, thanks for sharing.. awesome work
Sehr geiles Setup, ich bin hochgradig Neidisch, Respekt
WOOOOOW RELLY COOOOOOOLLL !!!!! YOU SHOULD MAKE A COMPANY AND PRODUCING THIS STUFF
This is so sick..nice job man!
Impressive setup. Must have taken some time to put together, well done. I wouldn't have the patience, or the space in my home to do that.
Not sure how I feel about this versus an Oculus Rift, but it's awesome and nerdy and I want to play in it!
You are living my childhood fantasy.
This is the reason more ambitious games should use some kind of API for in game functions like targeting, systems etc. we just need something more than standard button maping.
For instance i would REALLY like to have direct command for powering ON/OFF each subsystem on the ship. just imagine being able to script power On / power OFF actions when selecting a weapons group.
Or be able to have 'launch chaf/ launch shield cells' as a function outside fire group.
In addition a protocol to send out data/image from screens like holos/ radars etc. and being able to disable them from ingame cockpit
Przemysław Wilkutowski you can bind chaff and shield cell to any buttons in control configurations as I remember
bodyguardik
Ture - noticed this not so long ago :)
Nevertheless i would like to have mappable 'slots' for your internal components that can be 'programed' for certain behaviors, this way you could switch to ie weapon group 2 and turn of your group one or other components.
or map shield boosters ON/OFF depending on your shields status
Przemysław Wilkutowski read my bloody mind when i saw this video. would be nice if devs of online games can figure out how to expose interfaces to information/status services without compromising to cheats. The amount of augmentation players would be willing to implement is limitless.
Inphi Yes, that would be great...But I would even be happier if Frontier would make the controls more customizable. I can´t believe, that I can´t activate an ECM or Scanner or missiles only by switching through firegroups like I would playing with an XBox Controller...
And YES, If they would provide the information of the side panels with an API, I would display them in separated screens around me too. Imagine the immersion if You could youse the side panels in tablets with touch interface...
But first of all Frontier should implement a persepctive correction for Multi Monitor setups!
Markus Boesen That completely true - i'm running 3x landscape and the fish-aye is very annoying
All this cool stuff and FLIGHT ASSIST ON...
+...KhàotiK... Turning flight assist off is for maneuvering lol. Why would you have it off?
This is creative af...he wantd to feel like he in space for real..👍🏾
Very cool setup, well done!
As immersive as it is, it makes the game harder with adding all those buttons that are not withing close proximity like a standard keyboard or controller
Very cool again. :-) Live long and prosper.
Utterly utterly superb!!