Triple 4k Monitor Gaming...Kind of sucks.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- It's amazing but a pain in the butt at the same time. Still, using Nvidia Surround to play Elite Dangerous is awesome!
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Sim racers who run triples run into the same issues with games that don’t support triples. The issue is viewing angle. When you just span the resolution across three monitors it’s a flat image that you are bending. If you had all three monitors flat without an angle it would probably look better. With true triple support you’re able to set the angle and bezel width. Also view height impacts perception as well. If you’re not centered vertically the images will appear bent at the bezels.
Display Fusion can be used to "spoof" windows into opening like it's on 3 separate monitors. Been using it for about 3 years now and leave my set-up in surround and never switch back and forth.
I have (3) monitors 32-inch 1440p 160 hz refresh each, But I usually use lower at 144 hz. and I agree with everything you said.
One would think that by now this industry would have fixed this problem a long time ago. We are in 2022 going on 2023 and it just amazes me the amounts of crap I have
seen and still see still happening and not fixed or have a solution to them in this day in age. I just dont get it.
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I'm not trying to be rude. I'm curious what you are talking about when you say it's a hassle to switch between PhysX surround and a regular three monitor display. After I'm done my game, I just have to go in and uncheck PhysX surround. Hit apply and done. Maybe you are running an older driver but it's literally easier than swapping out a wallpaper.
Heh heh... Elite doesn't have so much of a learning curve... more like a learning cliff.
Impressive. Think I'd like to do similar but with three 32 in. 1440p 144 hz monitors. Thanks for the expensive idea though.
84Actionjack I agree With U Iam runing a 3wat nvidia suround but with 27' 1080 that is @5760 x 1080 with a forth 27' 4k on top,but i want to go 2560 x 1440 for the suround set up 4k is still just so demanding..well with the AAA games ne way! But thts jst imhp
The way alot of games do their triple monitor support is just to stretch the screen to fit. The distortion is due to the fact that they change the FOV from ~90 to 150-180 and the sides start to show the parallax effect from the streched FOV.
That said if a Dev was to do triple monitor support correctly it would probably be a much bigger hit on the GPU because instead of just doing a transform on the scene from one cameras perspective, you would need to render 3 cameras.
that makes a lot of sense
Had the same distortion when i ran 3 monitors years ago.. I decided that one large monitor is better then 3...
I can't recommend www.flawlesswidescreen.org enough for this exact issue! Mortal Kombat X looks INCREDIBLE!!
Nvidia allready fixed this rendering issue along time ago. First MPA and then SMP enables objects to be rendered once and then displayed in up to, if I remember correctly, six viewports at different angles. Apparently, devs did not get this memo...
@@KjetilBalstad Fixing it would be making a solution that works retroactively on existing titles.
Hi guys. I played Elite D for some time with one display and IR-track. Did think of buying the VR, but the latest one came with one hefty price tag(You need a high end GPU anyways for this..), so i ended up just ordering the Trio Display.
Anyway, i very Curious on how the FPS goes and what is a minimum or decent GPU requirement when doing Trio display? Pls don't say the 2080... pls! I got a 970 as of now, can i make do with it, or do i need a 1080?
Microsoft / Asobo get a lot of flack on their triple monitor support, but after using surround, its sooooooo much better and so far it's the only sim that allows such a thing while also giving you ways to fine tune each monitor. DCS gives two options in how to handle a triple screen and it too is awesome since I don't have to mess around with nvidia surround. It's surprising they've never made it better to where it would be simple to swap back and forth, such as run a particular game in surround, or after a session and switch back to have all icons go back to where they were.
I'm posting my comment 5 years since this video and nothing has changed with nvidia surround. As for setups go, I went with three 28" 4k monitors. The smaller screens allows me to put them much closer to my face, thus giving actually a larger viewing area while at the same time allowing the correct aspect ratio.
Remember when you talked about Windows 10 intrusion and stuff?
Can I connect 3 2k 144hz monitors to the asus rog strix rtx 2080 ti (2 display ports and one hdmi 2.0).The monitors have a hdmi 2.0 port. Will I have problems with nvidia surround or not? I read that hdmi 2.0b supports 2k 144hz
Ehh that distortion with that station on the right screen being so close destroys the whole immersion......I'm looking to buy 3 monitors setup for gaming and I love Elite but I'm disapointed.
thx 4 this video its amazing and very interesting
Just "started playing Elite" and you already have most expensive and difficult to purchase ship in game? Hmmmm.
yeap. I spent a lot of time on youtube watching tutorials and finding out "the next step" on everything. Then I found Ray Gateway, made it my home and started passenger missions for great money. Pretty much been grinding my ass off lol
Byte My Bits the grind is real! 😉 What's your CMDR name, if you want to hook up for some missions/bounty etc I'm CMDR Groovepoint hit me up!
The screen on top looks really annoying while gaming, turn it off or at least apply a black wallpaper for gods sake.
Member when 43" screens where decent sized TV's? I member...
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That's fucking awesome!! No need for a vr goggles. But... I think I'll keep it at 2 tho, much more manageable.
2 displays? And where is your crosshair then?
how do u setup 4 monitor setup? i have 3 monitor setup with Surround by NVidia currently but I cant get 4th one working at all. what should i do? i do want to be able to have all 4 surrender but i cant move the top monitor to the Top NVidia program.
I have the same problem. Any solution to this?
Windows key + P to quickly switch between three individual displays and one large! TriDisp gaming is awesome, I have 3x32" 1440p and for games like EuroTruck Simulator 2 is awesome. But for productivity separate displays is necessary. It can definitely be a pain at times, so much of the time I just run games on my 55" main anyway.
For an explanation of the side displays showing weird distances have a look at the Nvidia Simultaneous Multi Projection demo!
We need Devs to write SMP into all game titles so we can take advantage of it , Sadly I think there is only ONE game supported to date and that's called IRacing ..
Aye, I was SO excited when they demoed SMP, hurray I can finally really enjoy triscreen gaming! And then.... nobody actually implemented it :( I'm assuming it requires a lot of work to do so and that there's relatively very few of us that actually use three screens (or more), but still.. *sigh*
dunno if it possible sicne havnt use surround but would u think of chaining some macros to together onto one key and just do that to switch on and off surround
Nvidia announced SMP at the launch of GTX 1080. That was meant to resolve the distorted image problem. Was that ever implemented? Do someone know more about it?
Which graphics card do you use for this? I'll survive switching from Tribble HD to Tribble 4k. Only a graphics card purchase is currently out of the question at these prices. Is it worth it to switch to 4k with a 1070 or rather wqhd?
Definitely not. A 1070 would shit it self.
Meh, it's goes with the territory of being in a niche market. I'm still waiting for a HALO cortana-like desktop assistant to press the far buttons for me.
The FPS sucks now, but in a few years you can probably max-out the limits of the monitors with better GPUs.
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@9:09 Can't you just turn down the Depth of Field?
You can lower fov im sure
Which is the budget video card for triple 4k monitor setup?
I stopped doing the Nvidia surround setup, but using Displayfusion and profiles you can switch back and forth pretty quick if you'd like.
8:53 Most games I've tried have this or similar problems, in space sims it might not matter all that much, but walking in the terrain with objects constantly passing by and/or alot of twisting and turning pretty much makes tripple display gaming useless, in landscape mode atleast. Wiith more players having wither multi display setups or ultra wide displays, I find it strange how developers fail to adress this issue.
9:20 you need to properly adjust your FOV to correct such errors, you are supposed to own 3 monitors to crank down your FOV and make everything adjust to proper scale, (which honestly sounds crazy right? buying more monitors for less FOV? when in reality its supposed to be used for more realistic proportions when looking at your monitors, like looking through a window, which is also why most sim racers have triple monitor setups, it gives a better notion of space, speed, and more horizontal screen space,) but still killer monitors man, love your channel :)
Things appearing in side mirrors might be closer than they appear?
I didn't see a comment, but, if you haven't learned yet, the docking music is a throwback to Stanley Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey".
I do think it's super awesome to have triple 4k monitor setup for gaming with like racing, or flying and sims and stuff or VR even. But I also definitely love having it for other stuff it's super nice to have but I do not doubt that it could get annoying to deal with.
Would you get higher FPS if you were to play without surround, but still have the other monitors up?
Yes, inactive monitors (ie displaying the desktop or folders and stuff) don't draw much performance, barely noticeable.
Why cant someone invent an app that can switch back and forth no problem , wtf man, makes now sense, with what you can do with computers, sounds like a simple thing.
There are key functions to turn surround on/off in the NVIDIA control panel. Its the in the "setup multiple monitors" tab
you should put your task bar on the left hand side of the left most monitor so it condenses only on yor left screen.Helps to keep icons located on one monitor and easy to find.
hey guys - it's a 2years old video so I'm just wondering if the fisheye effect is still there when you play Elite Dangerous on a 3 screen setup now. Any news/workaround?
It is related to wrong field of view setting.
There's still no real fix. Frontier haven't catered for multi-screen camera view points, so the side screens always warp, while the centre looks fine.
ED always looked best in VR to me.
I use the same setup, NVDIA 1080. Great fun, wish the side monitors were a better ratio, wish Frontier would work on that. I also get 30 to 60 FPS.
You looking like an actor from Lost in space movie
By the way, Triple 4k, now doable
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Every windows update breaks surround, and that's why I got away from it. Nvidia eventually fixes it so you can leave your monitor in surround and everything outside of gaming works as 3 independent monitors, but it sucks that it does not always work. Wide screen monitors with extra side monitors are the way to go. Not really an option with 43" monitors though
what? To look up info during gaming, you can use the steam browser, or you can run the game in windowed mode on one screen, with a browser on the other, in fact Im doing that now. 3 27" 4k displays SLI and surround, discord on 1st montior, game in 2k windowed mode on 2nd, and obviously youtube on 3rd. The part that sucks is aside from well optimzed games, running 12k is very taxing on just about all modern GFX cards, even SLI configurations.
up to 2:00 is 'well, no shit'.
is there some sort of field of view option to set the number of degrees of your view?
Its more complicated than a FoV adjustement, more info : th-cam.com/video/p6NbyEmPalA/w-d-xo.html
did you try display fusion software ?
there are features in the nvidia control panel for adjusting taskbar icons,desktop stuff. also you seem to be lacking two key programs for Nvidia Surround gaming which is "flawless widescreen" and "widescreen fixer" both programs can fix a lot of issues certain games have and make other games playable in nvidia surround resolutions.
I feel this video is overly judgmental without doing proper research into the many features that make nvidia surround easily usable. One comment I do agree with is that nvidia constantly borks the desktop icons when switching between maximum performance and nvidia surround
Are u using 1 1080ti?
you can fix this with filed of view in game. since you have a wide angle of view you can turn it down.
No, this won't help. The game renders only with 1 camera. It doesn't support arranging the monitors in a circle/arc, but only planar. This is why this setup only works with surround-view: The game only sees a single monitor.
Ctrl+alt+s switches surround on/off. U welcome
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its not true triple screen this is stretched, when this happens you need the monitors side by side not on an angle and it works. this is just the way it is, some older sim games do this, may work right with an amd card as they have something in the software that fix the stretch screen, bloody nvidia common get your act together.
sweet setup
Yeah dude, use displayfusion it will do wonders for your Taskbar.
Would it be better just to go vr at this point.. wouldn’t it have been cheaper?
Cool setup at school we have some cheap Nivdia graphics card for Photo shop we hooked up 5 monitors and player some games it was crazy 😂
9:15 play with your FoV. That's textbook definition of fish eye effect.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The FOV setting is way off for that total resolution. ED in 3 monitors seems sweet though.
simple reason whuy it sucks you dont have dual titan V's and even 1 1080ti struggles to get 60 fps on ultra settings at 4k on AAA titles soooooooo
funny story AMD video cards you can set it to games vs setting it up each time.
I dumped my 3 27" monitors for 3 23" monitors and used those for several years... but... the smartest choice I made was buying a 49" Samsung curved monitor and ditching all those monitoers... IOVE IT.
i'm having trouble deciding between 3 27" or 1 49". since you experienced both could you tell me your opinions on them? like immersion, performance, etc.
@@popthiccle1158 the 49" is by far and away a more pleasant gaming choice in my opinion. No bezels. Less wires. You might still opt for a 2nd smaller monitor for browsing, videos, etc. I went with 1080p not because I couldn't afford 1440p, but I just didn't want the extra pixels to push. But if you have a top of the line card, and lots memory you might opt for the higher resolution.
For elite dangerous you want HTC Vive or the other VR headsets out there
Have you done vr in that game yet?
nah, I dont want to wear a headset for extended amounts of time. Im looking into head tracking though..
Byte My Bits yeah it's an amazing experience in VR and just by looking at your monitors while playing ,i would would rather prefer the VR over your larger monitors.
nice visualization content
Maybe 10 years ago the triple setup was necessary, but there really isn’t much reason to not get a nice ultra wide in this day and age.
I have 3 Samsung 27' PLS LS27F350FHNXZA monitors I got for dirt cheap running Nvidia Surround off a Zotac 1070 Amp! Here's a few more GEMS that most people would never think of!
Weather.com because you can see the WHOLE north american continent!
Tiger Woods 2012 Golf because you can see the WHOLE golf course, not only the green, but the surrounding oceans and buildings!
Mortal Kombat X with Flawless widescreen gaming patch because you can see the WHOLE arena that is NOT even visible without the patch!
Most Driving and Flying games.
Stretching out your browser so you can view say a BestBuy flyer on all 3 screens and scroll side to side, in half the time!
MPC-HD video player, you can use the numeric keypad to stretch out the UHD 4k on my 2k monitors with little to no quality degradation.
Benchmarks like Heaven and emulators. Imagine Candy Crush from your phone to 5760x180 or higher with 4k! Same goes with Zelda Breath of the Wild or older Dreamcast games like Soul Calibur!
Also, 4K 360 videos on TH-cam triple monitors, are a real head trip! LOL!!
The distortion problem is mostly an ED thing.
No its not. Every game that support ultrawide resolutions but do not offer separate moonitor rendering have this issue. Only a couple games (only know about iRacing) use Nvidia SMP for rendering with a correct angle on multiple monitor in a single pass (meaning: efficiently)
I came here to watch a man play with his joystick in the dark. SMH
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Lol ok jerry
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4k triple? OMG. what's your graphic cards in this video?
4 Titan rtx...
GTX 1080 ti
As far as the issue with your Icons, have you tried running any of your games in "Borderless Windowed Mode"? This allows you to put the game on one screen in what looks like full screen, but if frees up another screen so you can have a web browser open in another monitor without have to reconfigure your setup.
the side displays get stretched, because the graphics card by default thinks you have the displays flat to a wall, not in a corner.... The gtx 1080 introduced a no penalty screen angling algorithm that allows the side displays to display correctly after you tell it what angle you put the screens at... If you have a 1080, you need to find the setting and set it, that should help to correct the side screen angles, creating more of a proper bay window effect. Unfortunately, this a side effect of a single viewpoint, without display angle correction.... and this is a standard problem for graphics prior to the 1080, I'm sure the 1080 ti has it, but, I don't know what else does.... So, Since I think you have a 1080, try looking for that setting in the graphics card drivers, to set your screen angles, which should help to correct the side screen stretching that is due to the effort to display across the screens as if they were on a single flat wall....
*Correction, you Said you have a 1080 ti, so, go into the graphics driver and set the screen angles, this should allow the displays to provide the proper view, for a bay window effect....
Sorry, can't help for display setup switching, as I have been denied it on my setup, between windows and updated amd drivers, I seem to have lost my 3 monitor array, and haven't fought to restore it for a couple months...
You mean SMP , which is an API that needs implementation.. so there is no fix until devs use the tech, and multi monitors are almost never on their to do lists.
@@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL I mean during the launch event for the gtx 1080, they showed off this new feature, which basically makes each monitor have it's own virtual camera in the world the graphics card draws. But you have to tell the driver the angles of the side screens to get them to display as such. it is supposed to have near zero effect on the performance of the 1080, as it's supposed to be fully integrated and not a additional program.
@@bigtrucker26 Yes, Nvidia showed this off and it is great but the problem, like so many other graphics technologies, is that the game-makers need to code the Nvidia feature into the game. Stupid, right? It's too bad this can't be performed on the driver level in the Nvidia control panel regardless of the game you're playing.
Most racing sims include true triple screen support built into the game for 10 or 15 years now (doesn't matter what graphics card you use). So stupid that 99% of games still don't have true triple screen support while small simracing devs have been doing it for 15 years.
hmm i got a titan xp soo maybye ill get another screen and try lol
Changing the FOV setting in the config file should help
That's his real problem. The screens are taking up 170 degrees IRL but the max setting in game is only like 70 or 80 degrees, so the engine stretches the image to the point of looking like a fisheye lens.
This sounds like Skill issues.....
Your side screens look warped, because the perspective is messed up by you wrapping the monitors. If they were all in line with each other (flat), it'd look more normal.
I agree with that statement, in order to match i more closely the camera (in-game) would have to switched from rectilinear to cylindrical projection, but that would bring other 'artifacts'
He has 1080ti, they have a setting in the drivers that allows you to set the angles of the side screens to give the propper view, but, if you don't, then it thinks all screens are on a flat wall and gives you the view for that
No, I've tried, and the distorsion still happens. Objects looks like they are super close and streached out. Only thing better with a flat setup is wile moving forward, the ground passed by in the right angle, where you'd see the ground in the left and side display move directly towards you like it does on the middle display if you wrap them around you at angles. This feels very strange as the ground in the side vision should not move towards you, but vanish out at either the left or right edge of the display.
Dump the monitors and go vr.
Once you go vr there's no going back to pancake screens.
So true...
So, so very true. I recently got back into Elite Dangerous myself, spent a couple days getting used to the game and getting my stuff bound to two joysticks, then jumped in VR. HOLY MOLY. I thought sim racing was immersive but this is a whole different level.
It's a blast but not every game is vr. Just fyi. Stay playing star trek bridge commander if you want but vr is not the end all be all gaminh solution. It's just another seperate experience.
Who are "they"
Can I come over and play at your house 😄
The sides are distorted because you are not really supposed to be sitting so far back. You shouldn’t really be focusing on them.
who tf is they?
lol someone has been watching DownToEarthAstronomy videos then :D
Just use the hotkey to switch surround on and off so you can go between productivity and gaming; although tbh after using surround a lot when I first got 3 screens I haven't used it in years.
Also the side monitors aren't made for you looking at them they're there only for immersion on your peripheral vision
I have 3 40" UHD 4k displays on a RTX2080 and I can confirm. lol
How does it run
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11 series lol
Protip: move your desktop icons elsewhere because it literally slows down your boot time especially if you have a lot of junk saved on your desktop. Also, right click and hide desktop icons afterwards.
Fuck the monitors, gimme 3 curved 4k tvs and a beefy pc as a living room setup with full Dolby atoms surround sound
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Yeah I got the corvette last night. I have much grinding to get it A class and engineered but, I got it lol
Byte My Bits, You will love it! It’s such a joy to fly this thing and it looks so fucking cool. Well worth the grind. Btw do another video about Elite Dangerous, love this one.
Foolish mortal, GPU software useally have profiles to swich between 3 screen togeather or seprate. And if not, there will be software or scripts for it!
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Docking module is for babies. Flight assist is for babies. You are robbing yourself of 75% of the fun in this game if you skip the part where you actually fly your ship in space.
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Who needs 4K for desktop gaming?
Uh? Do you mean it would be better to have 4k on consoles? Why? You sit farther away from the screen - meaning you can't really tell the difference as good. And the consoles hasn't got the horsepower to drive 4k with good graphics either...
It's not a matter of needing
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