For the record, ALL the 8HP70, 8HP75, 8HP90, and 8HP95s are built by ZF in South Carolina and purchased by FCA (now Stellantis) and always have been. Only the 845RE Torqueflite units (V6s) are built by FCA (Stellantis) internally at the Kokomo (Indiana) Transmission Plant. If there is actually a torque problem with the rear driveshaft flange on the Hemi vehicles, it wouldn't necessarily then be on the lighter-duty units.
Right. I start watchin this channel cause the dakota but now I don't have anything in common with this channel now. It's cool, just not relevant to me anymore. 😟
I am going to check mine and my wife's transmission in the morning! I will update tomorrow. My truck has 8000kms and my wife's truck has 160000kms. Update: both trucks there is no play. My truck is a 2021 1500 assembled in Mexico and my wife's truck is a 2016 ecodiesel. So far no problems with the ecodiesel all though I am a little paranoid.
I have the 845re in my grand cherokee had the same issue. Just saw it now. I have 90k miles no issues yet but im glad I found it sooner than later. Thanks for this video! Probably saved me a transmission within 50k miles
Man u ask why it failed and u got those racing slicks on that truck and your out hammering that thing like its a drag truck? Man..quit waisting peoples time or posting negative things on these good trucks when your doing crazy stuff like that to them. It was funny you started the video; " I dont have a clue why the tranny failed" with racing drag tires on it.???
I would consider getting a new nut and installing it with high strength loctite on the output shaft threads, as well as putting the indents on the nut. I wonder if the nut could be torqued a little more as well. There's a good video on YT where a guy is tearing down a 8HP90 out of a Demon.
Good stuff… I have 178K on my odometer 2016 ram R/T have had a vibration for about a year now that I could not figure out where it was coming from. I just got under the truck and sure enough that flange is loose…
Yep, that's what I was thinking at the beginning. It's messed up. Dodge needs to come correct but they won't because that would be a lot of recalls and millions of dollars lost
FCA does not make the 8HP90’s in house as of 2019 I can’t find a newer model.. the transmissions are direct from ZF. Dodge could recall the transmissions because that’s a ZF issue.
@@richboimagic wait Chrysler makes the 70s as well as gray court I think Chrysler has a plant in Indiana as well they make them we do too they can't do it on by themselves they can't keep up
I had an 09 Ram 1500 and had the rear end blow up on I-5 near Seattle Wash in 2010 with less than 8000 miles, Dodge has a history of not torquing down nuts ( rear axle pinion nut loosens, the axle exploded!!! Maybe they have screwed up again
good info!!! thanks man👍..im going to check mine because im getting vibration over 90mph and the fastest i go the more it feels on my 2019 charger scatpack
Can you please provide me with expert technical support and advice? I am not convinced my transmission on my 2016 charger scat pack has failed at ~ 40934 miles and it concerns me even further as I also have the 8HP70 model transmission in my 2015 RAM truck at ~ 55100. I was driving about 40 - 50 MPH when I heard an unprompted downshift and then moments later check engine light came on and message “service shifter”. The transmission also seemed to be stuck in a lower gear in D. I scanned the OBD2 and had confirmed permanent codes: U1412; U0402;U0001; P1DD2. On the electronic shifter module: U0402; U0101. On the power control module: U1412; U0402; U11C2. I had the car towed to a dodge dealership and they are recommending that I change the transmission.
Is there a difference in pan depth on the ZF 8 speed on a car vs the truck? I got a new pan from ZF but it’s shallower than my factory pan. Will the shallower pan work on my hemi powered 8speed???
I would use a new nut. They're probably inexpensive. That way you could be certain that the new nut would stay more firmly in its newly tightened position.
Dodge/chrysler 8hp70s have a known desease with output shaft failure. Theirs an entire 5mm difference between mopar and BMW versions. Bmw has the superior output shaft
ZF Transmissions are German built and are put into a lot of high horsepower exotic cars. Look up ZF 8HP transmission on Wiki and look at the list of cars that use it.
Yes you are correct they are dropped shipped from ZF Germany. It reminds me of my 2006-7 Dodge chargers with the Mercedes 722.6 they too where dropped shipped from Germany and later on Chrysler built them in house.
The Torqueflite 8 (also known as the 850RE Torqueflite) is an 8-speed automatic transmission built by Chrysler Group LLC at the Kokomo Transmission Plant and the Kokomo Casting plant, in Kokomo, Indiana.[1] Production began in 2013. Although the 850RE Torqueflite is built-and-designed in the United States, the design is licensed from the German built-and-designed ZF 8HP transmission, made by ZF Friedrichshafen AG, in Saarbrücken, Germany.[2]
The only way i know this is a true issue is i have a 2003 ram 3500 6 speed manual 4x4 and it has a slip yoke with one of those balancer things on it and the rubber was severely cracked on one side causing same type of vibration and it comes on about 60-65mph then goes away then comes back at just over 70 then goes away again its bad though like it sounds like how a bearing vibarates almost but just shakes the shifter and vibrates the whole truck. I know its a different setup and not the same but that vibration your feeling is certainly from near the output, luckily my transfercase hasnt blew up since the vibration has happened it has loosened the transfercase chain and last time i used 4x4 to back out of sand onto the road it was clicking and chain slipping bad lol now time to rebuild tcase and get a new vibration dampener yoke for the driveline. Hopefully FCA Chrysler watches this! 44ft lb holding all that power sounds low to me trying to put out 700+ horses, hopefully they reevaluate and bump that 44ft lb number up
Check out this video from @ZeroTo60Tube th-cam.com/video/oKnH1ANwFFE/w-d-xo.html . Output shaft size is smaller on the Chrysler 8HPs than the BMW ones by about 4 mm!
So I went under my 2021 1500 and I am able to rotate the driveshaft a tiny bit left to right. Is that nornal? It rotates at the front of the driveshaft as well. It seems normal. Are you more concerened with up and down wiggle? Thanks to anyone who can comment
Very casual/noob car guy question... What if you brought this up to Chrysler or whoever manufacturers these things? Would they recall?. Awesome channel man.
The ZF 8hp90 transmissions are not made in house by Chrysler they are direct shipped from Germany as on 2019. I know for sure they make the 8HP50 for the v6’s in house.
Thank you so much for this advice because I'm getting a vibration and it feels like transmission or drive line and now you just answered I'm going to go check it
This video might have helped me a lot. I have a 2016 ram RT and 5 years ago when I first got it I tuned it and tried to do a top speed run. It ended up throwing the stock driveshaft out of it around 115. Dealership replaced it under warranty and when I got it back it still vibrated bad above 100. I bought a driveshaft shop driveshaft thinking it would fix my issues. Got it put in and it was better but would still vibrate above 115-120ish. I finally got fed up and just held it to see if anything would break. At 136 it vibrated so bad it shook the rear tail shaft bearing out of the transmission and broke the case. Once again dodge replaced the transmission under warranty. I got it back and have been scared to run it that fast ever since. Although I have ran it up to 130 a bunch of times and the vibration is very minimal but it’s out of warranty now so I just try stay under 130. With the new transmission the vibration seems a lot better. I’ll let you know what I find when I get home. I’m curious now
Not sure if you will see this, but question for you, I have a 2016 ram 1500 slt lone star 5.7l rwd- have you heard or seen the bump or jerk on some of these? Best I can say it feels like a small trailer hits you when coming to a stop or taking off? Took to a transmission performance shop and they could not get anything off the codes to cause that. 🤷🏼♂️doesn’t seem on a google search anyone else has figured it out.
I have AUDI SQ5 2015 with 155000km. The transmission is not smooth... specially when the gear goes down ... and if I'm pushing the gas pedal down to kick down and it goes 2 or more shifts down I'm getting a hard "hit" in the gearbox...like BOOOOMMMM .. sometimes the gear goes immediately back to the upper gear ... for example goes from 6 to 3 when I push down the gas pedal... andddd BOOOMMM it goes to 3 and jump back to 6. There is another thing: when I take turn left or right into a street... sometimes the gearbox going like into "neutral" feeling safe mode or somthing...the gear jump for a second and and after one second come back to "NORMAL. some one had this issues? ZF 8speed SQ5 2015
Has any manufacturer gotten an automatic transmission right?? The automatic transmission has always been the achilles heel of any powertrain. But overall the ZF's are great, IMO.
The 8HP90 hell cat transmissions are direct shipped from Germany .. Chrysler does not build these transmissions in house. This is a ZF issue, Chrysler didn’t build or design this transmission it is a kit.
Not sure what else is behind that yoke, I kind wonder if 44ft-lbs is what the factory went to, but then a few thousand heat and vibration cycles wore something in to cause that slop/play. Or if perhaps one part of the assembly line didn't set their torque specs properly. No bueno.
My transmission with @ 35,000 miles bucks in hesitation when accelerating out of a low speed cruise. Any ideas? This is my third Ram with this 8 spd transmission and the others were never a problem.
There is gonna be a little bit of play at the output shaft of any transmission because of the seal similar to a rear main seal on an engine or a front wheel drive car. When you check for bearing play, there's always gonna be a little bit of play that should never be right snug up against the transmission Itself because then it won't turn very well and then overtime that added pressure from overtightening it will start to the output shaft of the transmission and you don't want that because there has to be a certain amount of play for the rest of the transmission operate properly so you might run it to other problems too but yeah, there's always gonna be a little bit of play between the transmission Casing itself and the transmission output, flange, which then attaches to your driveline obviously. if the correct type of transmission fluid isn't used that can also cause the transmission to grenade because it doesn't have the right amount of friction. Need it for the torque converter to work properly and vice versa if you have too much fiction that can also cause transmission problems from the torque converter, having too much grip or friction, if you will. This is the video I watched of yours about the transmission other than when you drained and refilled the transmission so I'm not sure where or what happened two years ago since this video, but from my knowledge of my experience as a technician for heavy duty, tractor trailers for years, and then automotive before and after that. With the transmission and neutral you were going to get some play and that's when you want to be checking your driveline when there is no load on a flat Service with the parking brake off and the engine neutral and the wheels cocked that's when the proper checks can be made along the driveline, including the transmission output Flange area. There is a specification for the amount of movement no different than again the front wheel drive or front end of a car wheel bearing play there has to be some wheel bearing play. Otherwise the wheel bearings will create too much friction and not allow enough lubrication at higher speeds when the expansion and contraction occurs due to a friction, heating and cooling of the wheel bearings no different than the output shaft of your transmission, or any transmission for that matter once it warms up, it's going to dissipate or less, but there is a specification you can check using a or gauges and whatever procedure outlined by RAMM or the manufacturer of that transmission. Not sure if this helps at all but hopefully you figured out the issue when I turn on TH-cam videos pop up and then I scroll through until I see a familiar face regarding automotive how to repair videos and that's when I noticed I've watched his videos before so I'll watch this one. If you've already figured out the problem my apologies for trying to tell you what to do but I never do that. I make suggestions because I'm like everybody else, still wanting to learn.
The output shaft on my 2012 Charger came all the way off. I put the car on my lift and sure enough, the nut was just sitting in the driveshaft Ujoint section (All the way off) and the driveshaft pulled out just enough to not grab the splines..
Not sure on my 850re. 2020 gt AWD but I hear a lot of people including myself that intermittently on start up only you get a clunk. I will need to have that check out before it becomes expensive.
My transmission doesn’t work every time I put it in drive it gives me a blinking 🙃 where do you consider on getting a transmission rebuilt the only modification I have on my car is headers 2016 hellcat charger
Commercial Production is all about numbers. Well a torque wrench gets used continuously in a factory line and needs to be checked for accuracy Daily. I am almost certain that is where the weak point of the production is.
JEEZ ! What next ? Trans that explode and cam shafts that self destruct ? I'm fearing for my 2020 Scat Pack ! Seems like the Dodge/ Mopar group have let their customers down? The camshaft issues has caused potential buyers to shy away as it is and now this !?
My 2015 1500 randomly cluncked to and it ended up being the 3.92 limited slip rear end. I had a rear axel recall and after replacing it the clunk went away.
@@blakeerdmann I just remembered they did a software update at the same time as the axle recall and it shifted differently after the update. This also might have been the fix to my clunking. www.dropbox.com/s/pz7xl9j3bnshvoc/Flash%20-%20Drivetrain%20Control%20Module%20Diagnostic%20and%20System%20Improvements.pdf?dl=0 Heres the axle recall - "The left rear axle shaft on your truck may not have been heat treated properly at the axle shaft bearing journal. An improperly heat treated axle shaft may cause the bearing to create a grinding noise during operation, illuminate the Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) warning lamp and eventually an axle shaft fracture. If the axle shaft fractures, wheel separation from the vehicle may occur."
@@lancelotlink3907 I had it in the dealer and told them about the software update and they said mine didn't need an update. I want to take it into another dealer and see about the update
this transmission is not made for drag racing. Its only a stock unit made to be driven normal daily driver. If you are going to drag racing, get it modified with heavy duty components
I'm having a hard time getting the torque converter installed properly. On the input shaft by the pump is a gear that spins freely and I can't get the converter to go past it is there anything I should do I've taken the converter out five times had it standing on its tell housing and still can't get the converter to set all the way couple of coworkers have tried same problem
Checked mine this weekend because I'm having a whipping sound like a tie wrap is on the drive shaft and sure enough it's loose. I have an appointment tomorrow at the dealer to have them check it out. I did notice about a month ago I got a CEL on the highway and the tach raced up to 5k going like 70 and when I pulled over and restarted it went back to normal but the CEL lasted for about a day or so. I'm at 95k (2016 Scat Pack Shaker) miles and luck to have purchased the Mopar MAX extended plan which is a bumper to bumper coverage up to 125k miles. SMDH I don't even race this thing.
@@BoostedMotorsports Driveshaft replacement. It should be done by next Thursday. They didn't say anything about the Transmission flange but I'll make sure it's documented. I have a Mopar Max plan for another 30k miles/2 more years.
Jon, just saw your video of your good used transmision. If this transmission fails in another track race or pass, my suggestion is go for TH400 transmission. I've got a few friends that race their hellcats with a TH400. They tell those TH400 are more durable & better built for the hellcat power than the weak 8HP90.
Great tip, you might consider contacting Dodge. This might end up being a recall. Thank you. 😎👍
They wont care....you showing their screwup....pay off feds for awhile
I think it’s a 90 thing my 8HP70 on my ram 1500 express 5.7 is solid ! 💪🏼 😤
Looks like this is only for two wheel drive 8HP’s… On four wheel drive the transfer case is in place of that flange…
Are there awd 8hps?
@@HeliosFire9ll With the 4 wheel drive flange and a transfer case any 8HP can be all wheel drive…
@@HeliosFire9ll The 300s came with the ZF and AWD.
Yeah I’ve got a 2012 bmw x5 with an 8hp and I’m awd
@@HeliosFire9ll yes the srt grand cherokees are awd
For the record, ALL the 8HP70, 8HP75, 8HP90, and 8HP95s are built by ZF in South Carolina and purchased by FCA (now Stellantis) and always have been. Only the 845RE Torqueflite units (V6s) are built by FCA (Stellantis) internally at the Kokomo (Indiana) Transmission Plant. If there is actually a torque problem with the rear driveshaft flange on the Hemi vehicles, it wouldn't necessarily then be on the lighter-duty units.
I wish I had one to go and check.....lol
Right. I start watchin this channel cause the dakota but now I don't have anything in common with this channel now. It's cool, just not relevant to me anymore. 😟
This is some quality detective work. Well done sir.
Report to the National Traffic Safety Bureau ASAP
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of issues with ZF’s 8HP transmission.
i just blew mine
@@PRESIDENT_RANDALL_MARSHSame mine wouldn't move from a red light after towing on the highway
I am going to check mine and my wife's transmission in the morning! I will update tomorrow. My truck has 8000kms and my wife's truck has 160000kms.
Update: both trucks there is no play. My truck is a 2021 1500 assembled in Mexico and my wife's truck is a 2016 ecodiesel. So far no problems with the ecodiesel all though I am a little paranoid.
I have the 845re in my grand cherokee had the same issue. Just saw it now. I have 90k miles no issues yet but im glad I found it sooner than later. Thanks for this video! Probably saved me a transmission within 50k miles
Tighten and weld
I wonder if the nut is backing itself out?
Maybe the steak isn't holding?
These transmissions are amazing considering what vehicles you can get them in. They're only rated for 800hp.
These transmissions are the standard for which every other transmission is judged.
I think there was a recall for driveshaft failure. I'm not sure of years & Vin #s though.
Man u ask why it failed and u got those racing slicks on that truck and your out hammering that thing like its a drag truck? Man..quit waisting peoples time or posting negative things on these good trucks when your doing crazy stuff like that to them. It was funny you started the video; " I dont have a clue why the tranny failed" with racing drag tires on it.???
Just checked mine and its solid on my 2018 1500 sport reg cab. Thanks for the heads up!👍
Obviously someone on the assembly line is not doing their job properly....this should be a recall on Dodge's part. Go call dude 🤘😎🤘
or the trans/driveshaft tq/vibration is stretching the threads and making the bolt loose.
I would consider getting a new nut and installing it with high strength loctite on the output shaft threads, as well as putting the indents on the nut. I wonder if the nut could be torqued a little more as well. There's a good video on YT where a guy is tearing down a 8HP90 out of a Demon.
You got it... poor production practice on a very expensive ride .....go fiat ........
Mine has thread sealant, indents, cotter pin, and welded “just in case”
@@GarcBomber Wow, Red threadlock does the welding too, so, to me that is overkill. Good Luck removing it.
Thanks for the heads up! Good info!
Good stuff… I have 178K on my odometer 2016 ram R/T have had a vibration for about a year now that I could not figure out where it was coming from. I just got under the truck and sure enough that flange is loose…
Unless it is being torqued but something is compressing and requires a 2nd torque.
Yep, that's what I was thinking at the beginning. It's messed up. Dodge needs to come correct but they won't because that would be a lot of recalls and millions of dollars lost
FCA does not make the 8HP90’s in house as of 2019 I can’t find a newer model.. the transmissions are direct from ZF. Dodge could recall the transmissions because that’s a ZF issue.
@@richboimagic OK cool deal. I didn't know that one TY
@@richboimagic wait Chrysler makes the 70s as well as gray court I think Chrysler has a plant in Indiana as well they make them we do too they can't do it on by themselves they can't keep up
Glad you found that hopefully it eliminates any further problems with the transmission!!!!!!
I had an 09 Ram 1500 and had the rear end blow up on I-5 near Seattle Wash in 2010 with less than 8000 miles, Dodge has a history of not torquing down nuts ( rear axle pinion nut loosens, the axle exploded!!! Maybe they have screwed up again
Bruh you look tired. Must of been an all nighter. Excellent work
good info!!! thanks man👍..im going to check mine because im getting vibration over 90mph and the fastest i go the more it feels on my 2019 charger scatpack
Can you please provide me with expert technical support and advice? I am not convinced my transmission on my 2016 charger scat pack has failed at ~ 40934 miles and it concerns me even further as I also have the 8HP70 model transmission in my 2015 RAM truck at ~ 55100. I was driving about 40 - 50 MPH when I heard an unprompted downshift and then moments later check engine light came on and message “service shifter”. The transmission also seemed to be stuck in a lower gear in D. I scanned the OBD2 and had confirmed permanent codes: U1412; U0402;U0001; P1DD2. On the electronic shifter module: U0402; U0101. On the power control module: U1412; U0402; U11C2. I had the car towed to a dodge dealership and they are recommending that I change the transmission.
Is there a difference in pan depth on the ZF 8 speed on a car vs the truck? I got a new pan from ZF but it’s shallower than my factory pan. Will the shallower pan work on my hemi powered 8speed???
Thank dude.. does that makes a clunk sound when shifting from P to R !!
I have this sound in my 2019 300s chrysler..
so the myth is debunked again. No transmission is safe from Mopar power.
I would use a new nut. They're probably inexpensive. That way you could be certain that the new nut would stay more firmly in its newly tightened position.
Dodge/chrysler 8hp70s have a known desease with output shaft failure.
Theirs an entire 5mm difference between mopar and BMW versions. Bmw has the superior output shaft
I was told that the 8HP90 transmission are built & made overseas.
The ZF transmissions are German. Well built and reliable.
ZF Transmissions are German built and are put into a lot of high horsepower exotic cars. Look up ZF 8HP transmission on Wiki and look at the list of cars that use it.
Yes you are correct they are dropped shipped from ZF Germany. It reminds me of my 2006-7 Dodge chargers with the Mercedes 722.6 they too where dropped shipped from Germany and later on Chrysler built them in house.
The Torqueflite 8 (also known as the 850RE Torqueflite) is an 8-speed automatic transmission built by Chrysler Group LLC at the Kokomo Transmission Plant and the Kokomo Casting plant, in Kokomo, Indiana.[1] Production began in 2013. Although the 850RE Torqueflite is built-and-designed in the United States, the design is licensed from the German built-and-designed ZF 8HP transmission, made by ZF Friedrichshafen AG, in Saarbrücken, Germany.[2]
Good "Heads up @ Eyes Open" find, have to be pro-active when working on today's vehicles!!
The only way i know this is a true issue is i have a 2003 ram 3500 6 speed manual 4x4 and it has a slip yoke with one of those balancer things on it and the rubber was severely cracked on one side causing same type of vibration and it comes on about 60-65mph then goes away then comes back at just over 70 then goes away again its bad though like it sounds like how a bearing vibarates almost but just shakes the shifter and vibrates the whole truck. I know its a different setup and not the same but that vibration your feeling is certainly from near the output, luckily my transfercase hasnt blew up since the vibration has happened it has loosened the transfercase chain and last time i used 4x4 to back out of sand onto the road it was clicking and chain slipping bad lol now time to rebuild tcase and get a new vibration dampener yoke for the driveline. Hopefully FCA Chrysler watches this! 44ft lb holding all that power sounds low to me trying to put out 700+ horses, hopefully they reevaluate and bump that 44ft lb number up
Check out this video from @ZeroTo60Tube th-cam.com/video/oKnH1ANwFFE/w-d-xo.html . Output shaft size is smaller on the Chrysler 8HPs than the BMW ones by about 4 mm!
So I went under my 2021 1500 and I am able to rotate the driveshaft a tiny bit left to right. Is that nornal? It rotates at the front of the driveshaft as well. It seems normal. Are you more concerened with up and down wiggle?
Thanks to anyone who can comment
Very casual/noob car guy question... What if you brought this up to Chrysler or whoever manufacturers these things? Would they recall?. Awesome channel man.
The ZF 8hp90 transmissions are not made in house by Chrysler they are direct shipped from Germany as on 2019. I know for sure they make the 8HP50 for the v6’s in house.
You report to NHSTA. If enough people have the issue and report it, they will make the manufacturer recall/fix it
Checked my 2016 scat for a driveline vibration and the output flange is doing the same thing
GOOD JOB I BET YOU SAVED ALOT OF PEOPLE TRANSMISSION FAILURE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN UNNOTICED FOR A LIFETIME ... THANKS
Same thing on my Trackhawk and this my 2nd transmission I thought it was my driveshaft
Hey bro you think a tune could had messed up my transmition?
Absolutely
Thanks! Great advice
Very good info brother.
Yes I agree I use to work there its because someone didn't lock it in not sure why final test didn't detect that
Thank you so much for this advice because I'm getting a vibration and it feels like transmission or drive line and now you just answered I'm going to go check it
Poor quality control from the factory.
Weld that shit
My 70 with 80k is tight. Maybe it's just a 90 thing.
I've been all over the web sites I visit and no one has heard of a failure that you mention.
How did you get the output shaft out of the case without first removing the flange?
This video might have helped me a lot. I have a 2016 ram RT and 5 years ago when I first got it I tuned it and tried to do a top speed run. It ended up throwing the stock driveshaft out of it around 115. Dealership replaced it under warranty and when I got it back it still vibrated bad above 100. I bought a driveshaft shop driveshaft thinking it would fix my issues. Got it put in and it was better but would still vibrate above 115-120ish. I finally got fed up and just held it to see if anything would break. At 136 it vibrated so bad it shook the rear tail shaft bearing out of the transmission and broke the case. Once again dodge replaced the transmission under warranty. I got it back and have been scared to run it that fast ever since. Although I have ran it up to 130 a bunch of times and the vibration is very minimal but it’s out of warranty now so I just try stay under 130. With the new transmission the vibration seems a lot better. I’ll let you know what I find when I get home. I’m curious now
Not sure if you will see this, but question for you, I have a 2016 ram 1500 slt lone star 5.7l rwd- have you heard or seen the bump or jerk on some of these? Best I can say it feels like a small trailer hits you when coming to a stop or taking off? Took to a transmission performance shop and they could not get anything off the codes to cause that. 🤷🏼♂️doesn’t seem on a google search anyone else has figured it out.
I've been feeling that for a little over a year now. 16 quad cab 4x4 5.7. when it warms up to temp it ain't nearly as bad. But I'm worried.
Having same issues on my ram same year if anyone have an idea what could be I would be thankful for the help 🙏
Damn thats crazy I don't believe they didn't recalled this 😕 thats nuts
Dodge recall??
I have AUDI SQ5 2015 with 155000km.
The transmission is not smooth... specially when the gear goes down ... and if I'm pushing the gas pedal down to kick down and it goes 2 or more shifts down I'm getting a hard "hit" in the gearbox...like BOOOOMMMM .. sometimes the gear goes immediately back to the upper gear ... for example goes from 6 to 3 when I push down the gas pedal... andddd BOOOMMM it goes to 3 and jump back to 6.
There is another thing: when I take turn left or right into a street... sometimes the gearbox going like into "neutral" feeling safe mode or somthing...the gear jump for a second and and after one second come back to "NORMAL.
some one had this issues? ZF 8speed SQ5 2015
Lol literally replacing my trans due to same issue
Dodge has never got transmissions right
You hit the nail on the head!
Not true, the old school 727 trans from Mopar was damn good!
Has any manufacturer gotten an automatic transmission right?? The automatic transmission has always been the achilles heel of any powertrain. But overall the ZF's are great, IMO.
@@ogcowboy9078 I have heard the 727 was a good trans, never had one though. Im on my second 46re in my Dakota RT.
The 8HP90 hell cat transmissions are direct shipped from Germany .. Chrysler does not build these transmissions in house. This is a ZF issue, Chrysler didn’t build or design this transmission it is a kit.
Is Dodge doing a recall? I'm having same issues with my 2014 Ram 1500. Dealer wants to charge me over 8k to replace my transmission 😢
Not sure what else is behind that yoke, I kind wonder if 44ft-lbs is what the factory went to, but then a few thousand heat and vibration cycles wore something in to cause that slop/play.
Or if perhaps one part of the assembly line didn't set their torque specs properly. No bueno.
Replace the nut and check for a damaged or double seal underneath.
My transmission with @ 35,000 miles bucks in hesitation when accelerating out of a low speed cruise. Any ideas? This is my third Ram with this 8 spd transmission and the others were never a problem.
There is gonna be a little bit of play at the output shaft of any transmission because of the seal similar to a rear main seal on an engine or a front wheel drive car. When you check for bearing play, there's always gonna be a little bit of play that should never be right snug up against the transmission Itself because then it won't turn very well and then overtime that added pressure from overtightening it will start to the output shaft of the transmission and you don't want that because there has to be a certain amount of play for the rest of the transmission operate properly so you might run it to other problems too but yeah, there's always gonna be a little bit of play between the transmission Casing itself and the transmission output, flange, which then attaches to your driveline obviously. if the correct type of transmission fluid isn't used that can also cause the transmission to grenade because it doesn't have the right amount of friction. Need it for the torque converter to work properly and vice versa if you have too much fiction that can also cause transmission problems from the torque converter, having too much grip or friction, if you will. This is the video I watched of yours about the transmission other than when you drained and refilled the transmission so I'm not sure where or what happened two years ago since this video, but from my knowledge of my experience as a technician for heavy duty, tractor trailers for years, and then automotive before and after that. With the transmission and neutral you were going to get some play and that's when you want to be checking your driveline when there is no load on a flat Service with the parking brake off and the engine neutral and the wheels cocked that's when the proper checks can be made along the driveline, including the transmission output Flange area. There is a specification for the amount of movement no different than again the front wheel drive or front end of a car wheel bearing play there has to be some wheel bearing play. Otherwise the wheel bearings will create too much friction and not allow enough lubrication at higher speeds when the expansion and contraction occurs due to a friction, heating and cooling of the wheel bearings no different than the output shaft of your transmission, or any transmission for that matter once it warms up, it's going to dissipate or less, but there is a specification you can check using a or gauges and whatever procedure outlined by RAMM or the manufacturer of that transmission. Not sure if this helps at all but hopefully you figured out the issue when I turn on TH-cam videos pop up and then I scroll through until I see a familiar face regarding automotive how to repair videos and that's when I noticed I've watched his videos before so I'll watch this one. If you've already figured out the problem my apologies for trying to tell you what to do but I never do that. I make suggestions because I'm like everybody else, still wanting to learn.
The output shaft on my 2012 Charger came all the way off. I put the car on my lift and sure enough, the nut was just sitting in the driveshaft Ujoint section (All the way off) and the driveshaft pulled out just enough to not grab the splines..
I wonder if srtmush has seen this. He builds a ton of them.
Not sure on my 850re. 2020 gt AWD but I hear a lot of people including myself that intermittently on start up only you get a clunk. I will need to have that check out before it becomes expensive.
Hey mate how are you controlling your 8hp90?
That truck has a full charger hellcat swap, everything.. engine, pcm, tcm, interior.. so it's basically a charger from a technical standpoint
My transmission doesn’t work every time I put it in drive it gives me a blinking 🙃 where do you consider on getting a transmission rebuilt the only modification I have on my car is headers 2016 hellcat charger
Commercial Production is all about numbers. Well a torque wrench gets used continuously in a factory line and needs to be checked for accuracy Daily. I am almost certain that is where the weak point of the production is.
I wanted to ask if you'd respond will a 2015 hellcat transmision work on a 96 ram magnum 1500 v8
JEEZ ! What next ? Trans that explode and cam shafts that self destruct ? I'm fearing for my 2020 Scat Pack ! Seems like the Dodge/ Mopar group have let their customers down? The camshaft issues has caused potential buyers to shy away as it is and now this !?
I get a nice clunk that I can hear and feel in my 2014 ram 1500. Maybe this is what it is
My 2015 1500 randomly cluncked to and it ended up being the 3.92 limited slip rear end. I had a rear axel recall and after replacing it the clunk went away.
@@lancelotlink3907 so just the rear axles were replaced? Or the rear diff? Thank for the info. Any help would be great
@@blakeerdmann I just remembered they did a software update at the same time as the axle recall and it shifted differently after the update. This also might have been the fix to my clunking.
www.dropbox.com/s/pz7xl9j3bnshvoc/Flash%20-%20Drivetrain%20Control%20Module%20Diagnostic%20and%20System%20Improvements.pdf?dl=0
Heres the axle recall - "The left rear axle shaft on your truck may not have been heat treated properly at the axle shaft bearing journal. An improperly heat treated axle shaft may cause the bearing to create a grinding noise during operation, illuminate the Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) warning lamp and eventually an axle shaft fracture. If the axle shaft fractures, wheel separation from the vehicle may occur."
I think the poorly heat treated axle recall is for 2015-16 models so I bet yours could be a simple software update.
@@lancelotlink3907 I had it in the dealer and told them about the software update and they said mine didn't need an update. I want to take it into another dealer and see about the update
If you have watched the people who assemble this products on the assembly lines, it is not difficult to understand how this happens.
this transmission is not made for drag racing. Its only a stock unit made to be driven normal daily driver. If you are going to drag racing, get it modified with heavy duty components
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Just checked the dodge ram had differential pin retaining screw that would come loose and fall out not sure if that helps
Good find!
I'm having a hard time getting the torque converter installed properly. On the input shaft by the pump is a gear that spins freely and I can't get the converter to go past it is there anything I should do I've taken the converter out five times had it standing on its tell housing and still can't get the converter to set all the way couple of coworkers have tried same problem
These only click twice not like a conventional converter
i thought they needed to have rubber guibos on the trans as a must?
Thought.... maybe it's suppose to have some play.
About to check mine now that should be a civil suit
Thank you for letting me know.
So you did torque it then?
I’ll be checking mine.
Thanks for looking out bro
What controller are you using to shift the tranny?
Dude you nailed it..sloppy over here
What about 8hp75?
How can I get it tightened
What driveshaft you use on that Dakota ?
Thanks
THANK YOU!!!!
Checked mine this weekend because I'm having a whipping sound like a tie wrap is on the drive shaft and sure enough it's loose. I have an appointment tomorrow at the dealer to have them check it out. I did notice about a month ago I got a CEL on the highway and the tach raced up to 5k going like 70 and when I pulled over and restarted it went back to normal but the CEL lasted for about a day or so. I'm at 95k (2016 Scat Pack Shaker) miles and luck to have purchased the Mopar MAX extended plan which is a bumper to bumper coverage up to 125k miles. SMDH I don't even race this thing.
Keep us posted what the dealer says!!
@@BoostedMotorsports Driveshaft replacement. It should be done by next Thursday. They didn't say anything about the Transmission flange but I'll make sure it's documented. I have a Mopar Max plan for another 30k miles/2 more years.
Jon, just saw your video of your good used transmision. If this transmission fails in another track race or pass, my suggestion is go for TH400 transmission. I've got a few friends that race their hellcats with a TH400. They tell those TH400 are more durable & better built for the hellcat power than the weak 8HP90.
But no lock-up converter or overdrive.
Like I said, you need to at least take that trans and have it rebuilt..! just saying.
Dodge Chrysler Jeep sucks
You seem like an ecoboost guy
@@dandytandy3734 save the planet
Put a manual transmission in it and be done with it. Automatics are so boring to drive.
No one cares grandpa
@@TheSavage3.6 Get off my lawn