This Tiny ITX Case fits EVERYTHING!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- The Dan C4-SFX v1 is probably one of the best ITX cases I've had for review. It fits literally everything I could ever want it to from a full length GPU to water cooling and more. It even has amazing airflow for a ITX case.
Check out the C4-SFX v1 - www.dan-cases.com/c4sfx.php
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DAN C4-SFX v1 (watch out for scalpers!) - geni.us/DANC4SFX
Phanteks D30 - geni.us/PHANTEKSD30
Noctua D12L - geni.us/D12L
0:00 - The V1 is here!
0:24 - MASSIVE Cooler Support
1:05 - Price and Design (lack of)
2:24 - Interior specs & GPU Compatibility
3:13 - Top and Side Cooling Options
3:58 - Tips for Building
5:42 - 2 slot vs 3 slot GPU clearance
6:11 - COOLING is Impressive!
7:26 - The ITX case made for ME :)
8:07 - My REAL Issue with the C4
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Can't believe you want a logo on it
Like that’s the entire point 🤦♂️
It is. Logos suck
Of course he does, Dimitri always has shit takes in his case reviews, I don't tend to watch them for that very reason 🤷♂️
It you have a high end brand it doesn't hurt to have a minimal stamp logo to show genuinity somewhere it won't usually be seen like the rear. Imo dmitri has always been the top creator for case reviews. Always well balanced and so much experience with other cases. Plus sexy b-roll
@@boo3427 not everything needs to be branded
I couldn't disagree with you more about the logo critique. I DON'T WANT any logos on my case.
Haha, i dont mean doing something outrages, but a logo at the back (like they've done with previous cases) would be appropriate branding.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks I appreaciate that they are confident enough in their design that they don't feel like they need a brand logo. Though a sticker in the box for people that need/want that might not have been a bad idea
I think when you're paying THIS much for a case, the primary audience for this wants something that looks "custom" or "professional IT" with no logo. This manufacturer knows their market.
@@HardwareCanucks Funnily enough, Dan asked for feedback specifically about the logo, which used to be on the front of the case - it was removed after people said they wanted a clean look
User name checks out XD
Love the little shot touching the material, that’s the type detail someone really interested in the case would want to know. Bravo!
Happy to hear 😃 … while others were complaining 😂 about the same shot.
-D.
Love the editing and graphics on your last couple videos. Top notch.
One of the best cases that one can't buy... Such a shame that it's not available anymore after only a few months of being on sale.
Black just in stock in Australia that is.
Such a good in depth review. I always admire the scripts of this channel’s product reviews
Lian-Li x Dan Case A3 is going to be where it's at. Worth waiting for over this solely because of the 360mm radiator support
Excited for that one too!
-D.
At added side.. kinda defeats small form factor. This case can run it all at great temps.
@@HardwareCanucks i would love to have small form factors with dual 240 rad configuration case for my next build
@@HardwareCanucks Damn shame it got delayed; was supposed to come out in March, but fingers crossed for a soon release date 🤞
360 aio support in ITX is kind of redundant when you consider the options currently on the market that can already support a 280. plus its not all about raw radiator density but rather a clean and efficient airflow path, which is why this C4 in air cooled configuration works so damn well.
This is a proper case review. Loved the little insights!
Cant wait for the v2 to come out.
Woo hoo! Was waiting for your review
I would love to see you guys build a custom loop inside this case, the compatibility options are so expansive that it'd be very interesting (and educational) to see what you guys could pull out of the hat 👌👌
I've preordered this case but it won't arrive until August 😭😭😂😂
Been waiting for this case for a few months now. 2 days till general release and I will definitely be getting it and pairing it with my 4090 fe as my new htpc.
I would love your take on the Sliger S620 case! The biggest advantage being it can support the NH-D15!
I have a 4000D for my current setup but all the ITX builds have me considering one for when I ever upgrade.
great case. can't wait to buy this case when it comes to my country
This case looks so good!!
The NR200 is a well built case for its price. It can fit my existing ATX power supply and 3.5 HDD with or without some 3rd party brackets.
This case looks great for entry into ITX! the prices though...
I think with my next PC I`ll consider changing to smaller MiniATX or ITX + smaller case.
Good MicroATX with good IO is hard to come by.
Wonder if something like a 4080 or 90 with a water block on it would fit. Do 2 rads. Depending on the space between the card and the top rad you may need thin fans. Probably soft toobing. Have the cpu in the loop as well.
The cutout for the PCI-E card lock is nice! Granted, I'm a heathen and just remove them from any ITX board anyways since I'm not interested in stabbing my mobo with a screwdriver to remove the GPU.
I was actually looking for a small-ish form factor case! I am deciding between the ASUS ap201 and fractal torrent nano, but these cases seem to be starting to interest me! 🎉
I love my ncase m1. Best itx case i bought. No plans of changing it.
Wow! That's awesome ....
I was waiting for this case all last year but I’m now waiting for the M1 evo. I love my current m1 and the m1 evo looks like it’ll be the same just slightly longer and flipped. The C4 looks great but that front IO kills it for me
The paradox thing is, the bigger you make the case, the more ppl might buy it. But at some point it gets too big to fulfil the ITX idea and it becomes useless.
I see a bell curve somewhere in this.
I mean, it's still useful; it's just no longer a mini ITX case.
It’s just not as compelling to get itx parts which are more expensive and end up putting them in a case that’s getting close to matx. Not a problem for this case at least.
@@sagnaik with the nr200p max, I heavily disagree. It's 18.5L and provides better cooling for the gpu and Cpu than any other itx case. Also let's you run a vertical 4090fe with tempered glass and have insanely good temps while doing it.
@@sagnaik Getting obsessed with how many liters over all other factors is pointless. Cooling, compatibility, desk footprint, and aesthetics just to name a few things. Case price and availability as well.
This is art
would be nice if you could include GPU thickness fitment parameters in your videos
Do you think this case could tame the Aorus Master 3080? I know it SAYS it fits in, but I just tried a Sliger S620 and it was no go. If you got the GPU on hand, would you be able to see if it fits into it?
What about Cascade Labs SUB-20? I was *originally* going for that but changed my mind as I wanted to *squeeze* as much compute out of the latest gen without bursting panels(Twin Edge 4070, 7700X, and AXP-90-47 CU in ZS A4S V.3).
The “it’s never available” case
Have you tested it with an actual RTX 4090 MSI gaming trio or is it just based on measurements? It says it doesn't fit in the vid but on the official website it fits. Is there a catch?
There's also smaller, less popular 4090s like Colorful, Gainward, Palit that will fit in this case.
Second this, I'd like to see an actual test with the hardware.
Question: all promotional pictures show the NH-D12L in this case with both fans installed. Can you actually fit the second fan over the RAM without running into clearance issues?
I've just picked up this case - did you try the NH D12-L both ways around? Which way was better?
I'd love to see a watercooled setup in this case
I cannot believe this even fits an AIO. Damn. Simple case, but well designed!
Yeah it's an awesome case. Surprised it fits large CPU heatsinks.
-D.
Man, even with all of the great features and fitment, kinda feels like the NR200 is still the case to beat. Especially when it comes to price (got mine for $60 USD after rebate).
Yeah the NR200 is crazy good value for fitment and compatibility. Just doesn’t feel anywhere near as good quality as the C4. That’s expected tho.
-D.
they are completely different cases; NR200 (18L) is ≈4L larger but has much better compatibility. I think the direct competitor of NR200 is silverstone SG14 (19.55L), don't know why it doesn't get much attention though.
@@user-fu5gi1nf1m - Cases in general don't get that much attention simply because there are so many to choose from. And it's also a component that doesn't need upgrading often.
@@user-fu5gi1nf1m DAN C4-SFX is 17.4L big
what do you think will my 4090 Inno3d fit in the case?
That's great. I’ve been looking for a garage.
would adding mesh filters heavily impact the airflow ?
yeap, this is very convinient case format for those who has limited space or travels a lot. It can handle middle to high end hardware and has good air flow. But price is definetely can be lower.
I have the HYTE Revolt 3, which is “kinda” a vertical version of this case.
I really like the darkFlash DLH21.
Whats the clearance for 1 slot waterblock GPUs with the top mount? can you do a slim 240 rad with slim 15mm fans?
How is it to have the graphicscard on top?
I've always been running fans on top as exhaust as it's prone to suck in alot of dust.
Have one due here any day... still on the fence between liquid and air... interested in the air for less cables only. May just have to pull the trigger on the air components
Would love to see if you could mount 3.5" hard drives in the GPU area of this case. would make a very nice SFF High storage iGPU PC. same with the Fractal Ridge
Jonsbo N1 if you want aluminium
One thing i wish the case allowed users to do is to flip the orientation back to a normal setup.
This is basiclly an NCase M1 but better imo.
Will the Phanteks 850W SFX (with 12VHPWR) have a long enough GPU cable to reach FE cards? Website says 250mm only for that cable.
What itx mobo did you use? I just did a mini ITX build myself recently with a 4080
a custom loop would be possible with a single slot gpu you have room for a rad on top and on the side
Oh my. Looks like I'll be doing another build.
Now I need to see a fully water cooled system in this case.
I feel like that's where this case is going to shine. If X2 280 is possible...dam.
I have had a couple of Lian Li itx cases There the best. Needs to drop about 50 buck though. Thanks for the video. You rock. :)
what psu cable lengths do you recommend for the CPU, GPU and Mobo cables?
Air cooling is the main reason to buy this case. Finally something not AIO focused. Maybe I will switch to this case from NR200, it will only require new CPU cooler.
great for dust lovers
Honestly if I can fit it in a bag then it's SFF enough for me. SFF for me is when I moved from CT to TX in 2020, right when the rona happened, and my carry-on was 3 bags. This is what was in there if I can remember completely. xD
Tech Backback
PC;
Fractal Node 202
Corsair SFX 750
Ryzen 5 2600
Asus B450I
Corsair LPX 3200MHZ 2x8GB
Noctua L9a with Silent Wings 3 120mm PWM
AMD 5700XT
Crucial P1 NVME 1 TB
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB
Accessories;
Razer keyboard (It's really old and I forgot the model)
Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Corsair Void Pro headset
Logitech C920
Tools for my PC
Monitor stands for the 2x22in Viotek GFV22CB
Cables for everything
2nd carry-on bag;
2x22in Viotek GFV22CB wrapped in LOTS of bubble wrap
3rd carry-on bag;
Rode Podmic
Rode PSA-1 Arm
Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd Gen
Backup Roccat Kone Pure Military Edition mouse
Audio-Technica ATH-M20X
Extra PSU cables
Mobo accessories in a small shock proof container
Snackbars
You should've seen TSA when they sent my bags through the X-Ray machine, and they couldn't figure out what on earth they were looking at. They asked me to open my bags. I thought everyone behind me was gonna get pissed cause it's 3 big carry-on bags and the line was long. Everyone seemed genuinely interested when they saw I literally packed everything needed to set up shop and game into 3 bags. Only things missing was a desk and a chair. That's when I found out about pre-check xD It was a fun time hauling that stuff around and even the airport PD wanted to take a look because they'd never seen someone carry-on tech like this. Someone even suggested I was a government analyst. Part of me wanted to be like "Yup just going on a short assignment", but then I was like nahhhh I don't wanna be a prison bitch.
Nice review, thanks! I'm wondering if the top fans cause air turbulance noise. But will know that soon enough. :)
The metal mesh is large enough, so keeping the top fans on low (
Since the GPU fans are pretty close to the top panel, could you get away without any top fans at all?
It's the same size as the SSUPD MESHROOM S (15l), but the meshroom can fit atx, matx, or itx mobos. It'll also fit two 280/240 rads if you wish. You can also use atx, sfx/l psu. The kicker is, it can also fit 4 slot thick gpus. It's also a little bit cheaper than this.
lol meshroom is an awesome case name
I agree, current gen GPUs have become so big that horizontal cases require too many sacrifices and hassle to be worth it. And if these horizontal cases follow the same trend they would take up too much desk space. Vertically oriented cases like the Meshroom seem to be the only logical way forward.
but Meshroom uses a riser cable 💩
Yeah the new Meshroom S V2 is going to be even better. Just a matter if you want ALL the things in a tiny case, or something specifically catered to a few components.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks There's a newer Meshroom incoming?
loved the video, love coverage of SFFPC and the DanCase, but the bleep noises in the video on each "slide" drove me nuts, I kept checking my usb devices to see what was disconnecting before I figured it out.
lol OK, noted! Listening to this back, i see what you mean.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks Wait...what? Someone on TH-cam who reads the comments on their video and responds to questions and suggestions?? What madness is this?
Is there an ITX case that can fit a red devil 7900xtx?
It needs like 343mm length and at microcenter it says that is also 3.7 slots wide.
I am way past my return window and even though that is for an h9 flow build, I still want to upgrade my itx build.
Will you review the Jonsbo D31?
@Hardware Canucks: Is it possible to get a parts list for this build?
A great looking compact itx case by Dan Cases / Lian Li 🥰🤩👍💪.
I hate that in small form factor cases the PSU has to have an additional cable rerouted which takes a lot of space and its hard to manage by being so thick, but I get it, that's not something easy to fix.
Debating between this or the NR200. The C4 seems to have slightly better cooling and build quality but at almost triple the price. Any thoughts?
I like that this is smaller.
I have a NR200 and looking at the C4… I mean, yeah it’s a bit smaller and yeah I’m kinda bored of mine… but >200€
If only it was vertical like the Nzxt h1. But still really cool!
This case would have been perfect with a handle. Where am I gonna get a small form factor case I can carry around and has 3 slots for a 6800XT?
Hey Dimitri, on your comment about the D15, if you look closely on the render you can see that it's actually the D12L (look at the tower width and the jagged edge pattern). So it's really not their fault, they showed what will work and it worked perfectly, people just need to look closer sometimes.
Yup 😂 at a glance I got confused. But ofc knowing there are other dual towers from Noctua will remove the confusion.
-D.
I have an idea for bypassing windows. I haven't tried this yet though. But if you have a controller with extra mappable buttons you can map keyboard buttons to the controller and just map enter to the controller.
Do you know similar small case that would fit the second 4090 inside? I need to connect two 4090 with NVLink for machine learning. But I can't find any good small factor solution...
Super cute case. Maybe once I am more skilled will build one.
You don’t need to be skilled to build this honestly 😊
Lmao it's just like building a normal PC really...I've done a lot of nr200 builds and it hardly feels that different. In fact, sometimes it feels easier. People are dramatic when they say you gotta be experience to build sff. That experience isn't really needed until you go sub 10-liters or water-cooling.
It would be nice if it came with a PSU with appropriate short cables.
Could you deshround the gpu? Would that work in this case?
No dust filters. It will get dirty real quick. How about 3rd party filters, will they fit?
What keyboard are you using? I love the sleek black!
That’s my Asus ROG Azoth 🥰 absolutely love it for my daily gaming.
-D.
I thought your logo was the Loss meme before realizing the initials were HC lol
a practical development
Very awesome. :)
The msi geforce rtx 4090 ventus 3x will fit in that case, its 322mm long
Just looked up specs on the ASUS ProArt RTX 4080 Super GPU, looks like it will fit! 300 x 120 x 50 mm
How about the lian-li A4 H20? Imo that case has a better airflow than C4
Nothing about AMD cards? Personally I'm curious about the Sapphire Pulse version of the 7900 XTX. I "think" it will fit but I've not seen any demonstrations to that effect. I'm looking to build at the end of the month with an XTX and would like to go ITX due to available space in my gaming set up. I'll go ATX if I have to but I'd like to avoid it so I'm searching for a case that will fit my needs.
3:17 Video says 3 slot, 336 mm/145 mm; 3.9 slot, 334 mm/137 mm. pcpartpicker has the Sapphire card at 313 mm long, 3 slots wide. Techpowerup says it's 143 mm wide. So it should be a fairly easy fit.
This case supports 340mm GPUs as long they are 3 slots max width. I have the 6950 XT MERC319 in mine no problems.
Is it possible to fit in a Noctua NH-D15S in this case?
So this would fit my MSI Gaming X Trio 3080?
Noctua C14s and L12s is the best for this type of case.
I don’t think logos should be a staple in design, the build quality should speak for itself.
My infatuation with the NR-200 just went *poof*. There are lots of RX 7900 XTX cards that would fit in there.
Machines and More did a lot of work with the NR-200, and concluded that the Noctua C14-S downdraft cooler is the best air cooler for that case if properly configured. Any initial thought about that cooler in this case?
I have an 7900XTX Nitro+ in my N200 ❤
Dan (the designer himself) is currently using C14s, as per his post form Tuesday.
@@tropp79 Neat. Where can I find this post?
Irrelevant. It sold out in 10 days in Europe, and no more will be made. None were ever for sale in outside of Europe. The guy is making an MATX case to come out next year, but I won't be buying it. I am annoyed, to put it lightly.
As for me, same case as Silverstone SG14. Silverstone has less ventilation on panels, but form-factor almost the same:) and Silverstone costs less:)
I've always liked Silverstone cases. They have good options at reasonable prices.
Isn't the SG14 quite a bit bigger? If you want to stay sub 15L I think this or the upcoming Ncase M1Evo alongside the Meshroom S are the cases to beat :)
@@ErikTheViking92 i have sg14 on the shelf. It is maybe little bigger but not so much. I am too lazy to check measures of both cases :) but overall design is the same - itx MB with possibility to install big tower coolee or AIO, PSU near MB and 3 slots for big GPUs.
Can I put Ncase M1's 3.5HDD bracket on C4's AIO panel?
Hey, sound guy! The "S-sound" is a bit sharp. /Using Genelec 8030c
do you think this still fits into cabin/hand luggage? I need something that fits into a backpack for air travel.
You’d need a pretty deep backpack, but this fits into my carry-on luggage for sure. Just a matter of weight with some clothing for padding.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks thanks. flying out to Japan next week, as the country I live in does not have any modern hardware on shelf. I had already settled on the fractal ridge as a replacement for my node 202 (I wanna be able to fit bigger gpus and air coolers up to 70mm), but that has not been released in Japan yet, while the Dan Cases are there. Not really sure what my other options would be. Probably some silverstone cases (milo etc), but I straight up don't like their designs.
Yo bro how long have you been working out for
I. Can't. Stand... SLI riser cables.
Great video 👍
Any news about NCASE M1EVO?
Waiting on that too.
Wake me up when they make an ATX or EATX tower.
What is the noctua fan used to exhaust?
i just wish u could put recent hardware as nobody will be buying a new case to but 5 gens hardware in it. i myself would like to put a 12-13 gen in a case like this but they dont pack the same heat.
ok, BUT can it fit matx, atx, or eatx lol