Less Weight, More Fun? 2021 Toyota GR Supra 2.0 POV Drive
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Well that was too easy:)
nice one
That's old af ya not funny
Hahahahha!
Nice to see someone not complaining about the 2.0
Yea not yet
The 2.0 is a great car! espacilly here in Europe i can really recommend it, with the elsd and the big breaks;)
Gas mileage
cough cough Alex on Autos
This is exactly what I’m saying about the Supra. To shave off 219 lbs, while not reducing straight-line performance by much, is pretty impressive to me. Not to mention that you’re saving 8 grand if you’re buying one new. If power is such a necessity to you, there are plenty of tunes. It’s a B48 after all. For me, and for a lot of people in my opinion, the 2.0T is the way to go.
I know you won’t pay that much for 2 litre. Stop lying to yourself
@@Mcvalverte car was sorta made to be a later/cheap and easy to get track car for people to get/2j swap.
In my country it's 20k cheaper.
Or you can save 25k and get a Toyota 86
In my opinion it's way overpriced and not worth the crap performance
8:26 Girl advice with Tedward. Thanks for the heads up, I'll try and never say that LOL
I love the mk5, who cares about what fanboys say. Its an amazing, beautiful, and overall well balanced car.
Lighter is always better! I think a 6 speed manual would be the cherry on top.
BMW has one in the Z4! They really should give us that.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 well this aged some what well, except the 2.0 doesn’t have one :(
I finally have a dream car. I load up the webpage for configuring the car a few times a week as I plot my path to buying one within the next year. A base model 2.0L Supra in Nitro Yellow with a few mods thrown into it. I intend on upgrading the turbocharger to a bigger model (one day) and replacing the plastic intake pipes with the aluminum aftermarket ones. I might mess with the exhaust, I might not…I prefer the deeper exhaust notes of the 3.0L but not the deeper price 😅
Sounds great!
Lol same 😂
So this supra has 3hp less than the GR Yaris? Never thought i would see the day where a yaris has more power than a supra
Bee Cars - INTERIOR Saw this comment on carwows vid too
The car makes about 300 horsepower everyone with a dyno can attest to that. BMW underrated their engines from the factories.
So interesting to see such a well known TH-camr driving a Supra around the corner for me. Exit 1 southbound is pretty fun, I love to take it to 70 before getting off.
I think it would've been a really interesting result if Toyota decided to use the LC 500 chassis for the new Supra, tbh
I think it's because they don't want to lose money...
it would have been much too large and heavy to be honest. The LC500 is more of a luxury sport GT, on a par with the Aston Martin DB series or BMW 8 series. Also, that would have driven up the price substantially. I'm still a little disappointed at how little input Toyota had in making the MKV Supra though
A lightened, short wheelbase LC500 with the V8 would have been magical.
@@jvanegas14 the lc500 is closer in length to the mkiv than the mkv is. Given the trend of cars becoming larger, the lc500 platform is pretty bang on dimension-wise as a supra.
@@verdict1163 that’s basically the RC F, fine car, but it’s not flying off of the shelves, mostly because if you want RWD and V8, you may as well go American, you can even get a stick, which is no longer an option in any lexus
I’m glad you and I are on the same page when it comes to weight over power. Give me high cornering speed and more stable playfulness vs. more straight line speed and corner instability via throttle.
I love the fact that you don´t talk bad about the Supra. We got it, it shares parts with a BMW. But it´s soooo annoying to hear that all the time. People should just enjoy the driving pleasure and be happy.
Agreed. I don’t want to just repeat the obvious facts we alllllll know
The comments are already something lmao, Car guys really love to complain about everything huh?
It’s the most critical group of people beaten only by mothers in law
The celica ts is about 1300kg (2866 pounds), driver and full tank included. It has been a joy oh boy I tell you. The lightweightness always brings out the spark of fun.
I like this guy cuz he is always so positive towards a car no matter what it is
I'm just gonna say it... I've always liked the Mk5 supra and I feel like this one is just a different flavor of a good thing. What's not to like?
I feel like the supra with the 2L would make a LOT more sense with a manual, lighter and sportier vs bigger and GT'er! I keep wondering if these things will have Toyota OR BMW maintenance costs in 4-5 years
Probably will have BMW maintenance costs
And agreed this would make way more sense with a stick !
@@derrickarmour Not sure about that, Toyota improved the powertrain significantly. If you look into the development of this car, they updated certain parts of the powertrain to meet Toyota Reliability Standards
If it last 5 years
Seeing the roads I dive daily in a video is pretty cool not gonna lie
I have the 2023 2.0. Much more power than I need. I get 42 MPG freeway. Other owners have reported the same.
I love the fact that the B48 sounds very, very similar to a Mini Cooper S and the rear drive nature means it's a driftable Mini 😂
Very similar? It is the same engine hahaha
Not exactly the same, some internals have been upgraded to cope with the extra 60bhp over the Cooper S engine
Despite the fact that there is a lot of BMW parts on the MK 5, I still think it is a beautiful vehicle, and it seems to be a ton of fun to drive! I don't think all the hate is really deserved.
Now they just need to change the steering wheel and I might buy one...in 4 years
Yeah it’s so basic. They should definitely change it
yeah not super big on the looks but at the same time i do like how simple and ergonomic it is
It's the same steering wheel i had in my 1 Series back in 2011... It's the biggest weak point in this car imo
The newest Altima has this flat bottom steering wheel that I’ve just fallen in love with. I never thought I’d like squared off steering wheels but it’s the shit honestly
The handling would have to be pretty special for me to pay $8k more than a Mustang GT for 205 less horsepower $7k more than a Type R. I know the car is way different than a mustang and type r, but I don't really understand what niche this fills. If you want a light, tossable sports car, get a Miata or BRZ. Once you pass 3000lbs, you may as well have some power to back it up.
This thing is kick ass idc what anyone thinks.
If you want to get power, I’d go with the 3.0 but I completely agree the 2.0 is definitely a drivers car if you want a more GR 86 feel to your supra the 2.0 is definitely it imo. Lightweight and agile overpower., I’ve driven a Bentley for example it’s a fast car but they are so heavy that you don’t really even enjoy it. I want to feel the road when I’m driving. I don’t wanna feel like I’m on a cloud.
This is how I look at the two variants
Supra 2.0 = Touge weapon
Supra 3.0 = Track weapon
people are literally complaining about the car just because it’s a BMW. if Toyota made the exact same car with the exact engine and chassis, y’all wouldn’t even complain
this the engine that should be in the 86
This four cylinder sounds good though.
What you're hearing is LIES.
Great video Ted! This car just looks & sounds awesome
What a way to start the morning
Although it's a smaller exhaust, this sounds pretty nice. Only... gosh, I miss manual transmission. Musically, it develops revs too quickly for my liking (yes, only my liking, I'm not complaining in general). The change in the sound piped into the cabin while changing modes is pretty obvious.
Tedward: "Try to be original on your comment section"
Me: "It's a BMW"
Great video Tedward! It does look like it's a lot of fun to drive!
It makes a lot of sense to have a lighter, slightly slower car makes more sense to me. I'm not going for speed, I just want a fun drive.
thanks for the video king!
welp i didn’t need to wait that long for the bmw comments
Man I can relate to that smoking truck comment. One time I was driving across the state with a fucked exhaust- couldn't bear to go over 65 except on downhill because it was too damn loud. Started smelling burning brakes/clutch - thinking wtf is wrong now, is my car on fire?! Pull off the highway, look underneath, look under the hood, no smell. Shrugged and got back on the highway (possibly the slowest 0-63). Started smelling it again, started freaking out again. Finally I see a truck on the side of the road, pretty sure a trailer tire was on fire. Poor guy, but man I was so happy
I'm enthusiastic about this but a recent Car and Driver test at the Virginia International Raceway exposed the brakes as a weakness. Fade was progressive on this tough track compared to the Supra 3.0's much better brakes and Toyota should upgrade the 2.0's brakes.
Probably an interesting chassis to drive for someone who doesn't care about the inline 6 (although it's the major point of the supra but why not afterall) or who might be still learning rwd. Better balance, I'm sure it has plenty enough poke to do some oopsy moments, 30 years ago we had no choice, inline 6 heavy nose but smooth and torquey, or inline 4, mostly na, great chassis but unless you rev the crap out of it (if you could because with a Bmw M40 ... you know).
People - "BRZ NEEDS TO BE TURBO!!!"
Me - "Supra 2.0 yo"
I still prefer the inline 6 but that four banger good make a good track car
Do you find this to be noticeably better or different than the 2.0 Z4? Because I personally felt super disappointed by that one. Dead at the top of the rev range, quick but completely disconnected steering, a synthetic and almost lifeless driving experience, and no manual to even try to bring some mechanical feel back to some aspect of the car. I will say that it did feel light compared to other BMWs I drove that day, making even the 2.0 feel very capable and the whole car feel...tossable? makes me wonder how the Supra would be, with any engine config. super bummed about the trans though.
Steering is way better then in the Z4;)
The power is very flat in the top, but thats not a bad thing, if you are going to have fun on backroads(atleast for me)
i'm glad you stopped being lazy and started taking fresh IG screenshots
0:46 damn.. that's one clean exhaust
Ayyy, tedward!
So much for the break in period 😂
Unnecessary for most modern engines.
waiting for the day drive and discuss the new RF Miatas, nice video
I personally really love the new supra. I feel like I would be happy with either engine. I just wish there was at least a 6 speed manual option. I'm sure the paddles are great, but this car should have three pedals as an option at least. Also, you can turn lane keep assist off right??
Yeah you can disable lane keep, really the first thing that needs to be done
Wow, I'm like 99% sure this is right down the road from the dealership I work at
Love the content brother
Thank you!
Everyone complains about it being bmw inspired but there are many exotic cars with other engines Lamborghini truck has an Audi engine a Maserati has a Ferrari engine and nobody complains
The sound reminds me a little bit of those old Nissan SR20/18 engines. Its not quite as throaty, but it has the same kind of frequencies at high RPM I think.
Toyota sport: Lets partner up with BMW
Toyota reliability: left the room
This review reminds me of your preference for the manual 228i to the m235i in the past. It would be interesting to see your thoughts between the bmw 230i and this 2.0 Supra.
incredible memory for those videos
I was just at Toyota of nashua
Dude, that thing is plenty fast! people are spoiled these days, not u per se, but most reviewers...try driving a 27yr old probe gt and then hop into that thing... it would feel like a missle... that motor sounds fantastic for a 4 banger
welcome to the internet...They'd critique a Michelin Star chef while eating a microwave burrito from the gas station
I hope the next toyota partnership is with lotus and brings back the MR2.
Give it a manual and this is a great sports car for the money, really nothing else would compete
I just don't like automatic/parking button thing. Can't really say it is reliable if you don't own it more than 10yrs plus. Don't forget 2023 Nissan Z has to stop production on the automatic because the parking did not engage and people car was rolling downhill.
If I ever buy one of these, I'll swap the badges to BMW ones
I think this sounds better than the implementation in that M235i.
This car needs a manual transmission. Would seriously consider it if they put a manual in it at some moment.
Z4 with this engine has it as an option here in Europe.
It's either they're waiting for the right moment to do it or they're trying to get the 6 speed that'll be in the new M3/M4 and will do their own changes to it.
I agree, but from Toyota's perspective that doesn't make any sense. They have a working transmission from BMW which they need just to bolt on. I'm not sure they are developing their own manual for this car, for like 5% of us who would buy it, other 95% would buy auto box anyway 😂
@@majbabovic5364 well they probably were waiting till the Z was announced so its possible they'll do it with the 22 model mk5. If anything knowing them any change they make with any car is just them being extra with it and doing a bunch of other changes around the car like they always do.
Surprisingly quick, wasn’t expecting that. Probably a much better daily over the 3.0.
straight 6 is a much more enjoyable experience than a 4 on all points
@@papa_pt Oh believe me I know. I wouldn't trade my 3.0 for this, but as a daily I can see the desirability of the 2.0.
Just imagine they would put a beefer version of the GR Yaris Engine in this 😳
It's been a while since I've last seen a BoMoWa Supra
Bravo! Drive a slow car fast = more fun!
Never liked the feeling of the hood being that long in any automobile. Feels like you're too far away from the front almost like you're driving from a back seat 😅
Oof, I wonder how you’d feel about being in a first or second generation Viper then!
@@39PSIOnTheDaily Probably like I'm driving a limo backwards.
3:06 Thats sick! Theres another supr....oh..wait...
Pretty sure no one thought your joke was funny.
Look at my Supra 🔥
Nice BMW bruh 🌝
Whilst I am ok with a 2.0L Supra (remember, its only the more recent Supra's that had 3.0L engines) I don't think that swapping to a 4 cylinder engine really helps. If it were a 2.0L 6 cylinder then it would be a bit more ... Well, more Supra.
Lets be honest, we all know that the 3.0L doesn't actually produce 335hp, its much more than that. So it's difficult to really compare them without laptimes and quarter mile times
Thank god they still have buttons in the interior...
I hate how some new sport sedan and coupe weighs like 1800-1900 kgs and more than 2000 for electric cars
Without manual transmission... :-S
Thinking of getting one used saw some near me that are pretty nice looking. This I think will drop in price with the new Z coming out. The Z is just as nice looking and has plenty of tech and with it coming with a manual and 400 HP its going to be hard to sell these at 40k for a 4 banger for much longer I can see these around 35k soon.
bro was here before the markups
Supra 2.0 at 3200lbs: "Weight Reduction LIFE, baby!"
86/BRZ at 2800lbs : "Am I a joke to you?"
2.0 actually weights just under 3100lbs actually.
Dang now I have to buy one
Rearview mirror hopefully is different
That car would be many times more enjoyable with a manual. I realize everyone says that. But give us an option Toyota. I mean the car is like 45 grand.
Wait a few years. 2.0s were specifically made to either become later on easy to get track cars or 2j swap cars for those who don't like whats in the 3.0 mk5.
I find it strange that I actually don't mind the manual transmission not being there. I think I am used to the idea of an auto being in these cars, and also come to accept these new fangled high speed autos.
What would be a nice first time car
I hope the 2.0 model haven't tha fake exhaust sound generated in the stereo speaker like 3.0 model..!
Sounds exactly the same as my 2015 Mini Cooper S, except I’ve got hundreds of less pounds, a manual transmission, and 300 hp tune! Supra looks way better though
can you please start saying the msprs of each car you review. thanks
Sounds much better than I was expecting, but given that it's actually a BMW, I'm guessing that sound is significantly fake or modified. Otherwise it seems like it could be a good enthusiast offering, especially with a tune, but damn the transmission sounds kinda slow.... I think if they made the 4cyl in a manual then it would be an intriguing proposition.
Everyone has their own opinion
Hate to be "that guy" but this looks like it would be a blast with a 6-speed manual, like the Mazda RX-8 used to be, or the current BRZ/86, especially for those who value handling and fun over raw speed. Maybe put one of those new 7-speed manuals into it for better economy.
haha no you're not wrong. A manual would add a lot of life to the car
It doesn’t sound bad tho
Of course pretty much the only Toyota interior that I like turns out to be a BMW interior. [Insert Suprised Pikachu meme here]
Honestly I think a 2.0 is a little boring, but the points on weight and what not makes a lot of sense.
Im sure they'll start building these engines and slapping giant turbos on them in no time lmao
Did I miss the price?
im sure its very hard to tell on the street and not on track, but hows the bump steer, that and the buffeting with the windows rolled down have really kept me away from this car especially cause i can get basically the same drive train in any 30i bmw and f56 mini, and not have those downfalls.
mini is way different with a non longitudunal engine. Yeah it is the same engine, but another transmission and just fwd
@@Trochanus and a quarter of the price
@@NoHope_ Still you cant compare it by any means. The one is a sports car the other just a stupid hot hatch.
@@Trochanus yet the mini would run that supra on a track, the supra is a horribly handling car at speed, the mini is one of the best track cars you can buy for under 20k
@@NoHope_ I actually dont know what you are talking about, yes there is bumpsteer, and yes thats a huge engineering fail. But the car is still a great sports car. On backroads is damn fast and fun.
Mine got 4000km on it right now, most on backroads even in snowy conditions and on winter tyres real fun. Not even comparable to a mini or another hot hatch and yes i drove these roads with many cars already. There are better cars sure, but at this price level new? No. But in europe we get the 2.0 with the big breaks and the eLSD.
Is there any part of that car (aside from the body panels) that's actually made by Toyota?
Nice BMW supra!
you got the whole squad laughing............................
🤡
I’ve noticed it’s always people that couldn’t afford the car that complain about said car(s)
I see it as people being let down by something they would have aspired to own
@@TedwardDrives either or
My dream
Can we know about the reliability?
I review 3 cars a week. I can’t put 100k miles on them 😂
@@TedwardDrives I understand that obviously but since it's been 2 years already do we have some updates/report on that matter? Or could you point 👉 me to a report or a site that does that?
Please tell me you are not the Brad
You should drive a BMW 330e G20: 4 cylinder engine + electric motor adding up to 292hp
Nah...better stay with 330 E46 or something like that....THAT is thing YOU should drive.
@@martincoufalik9101 It was just an idea for a video
@@jc74435 Dont make him drive bad cars....this "supra" is first and i hope last thing he wasted his time with....oh and Unimog....
@@martincoufalik9101 Your definition of bad cars is interesting to say the least
Can i drive this in winter in Canada?