A great, no-nonsense review. I own this exact car and it is a joy to drive. As I have matured, I realize chasing the lowest 0-60 time is a fool's game as four-seat electric family car can toast supercars and keep pace with hypercars nowadays. I care more about the feel, look and driving experience. The 2.0 Supra delivers on these 100%. It serves as my daily driver and provides a daily smile. This is no longer the 80's/90's and the car is better in many ways due to the collaboration with BMW, as you correctly noted. You have a new subscriber!
Completely agree! I found a amazing deal on a 2.0L selling under MSRP at my local dealership. Driving this car makes you feel like your in something special. Something that cannot be measured in terms of numbers. Glad to hear like minded people out there.
@@Gjeebs bro … need your feedback about the supra 2.0 riding comfort against the focus st (i own an 16 st) and you did before .. is it far better than the harsh one in the st, or just a little.. as you the 2.0 supra doesn’t have that adaptive suspension in the 3.0 … planning to buy one soon.. waiting for ya
It really looks like a blast to drive. It is always nice getting your perspective on these cars, especially since you are also a former Focus ST owner. That car was such a good bang for the buck.
Absolutely love my Supra 2.0. Tuned and running E30, we are now at stock 3.0 level performance, but around 240 or more pounds lighter (after swapping the stock wheels for some Gram Lights). Insanely balanced and agile in the corners, one of the main reasons I chose this over the 3 liter. Much easier to add power then shed hundreds of pounds of weight on a factory boosted car.
@@Matt_417HondasandFriends I'm lucky to be near the mountains, so we have all kinds of amazing twisty roads to have fun on (part of what got me into sports cars so young). No track time, but I drive all my cars the way they were meant to be 🏎 While being safe of course and on empty roads I know by heart 😉 How about you?
Great review. Google says this thing weighs 3100 lbs, I can’t believe it’s as heavy as the CTR with half as much space! Nonetheless, bet it’s a blast to drive
You mean a Ruf CTR. Those don't come close to meeting modern safety standards. It's nearly impossible to make a car under 3000lbs unless you use a carbon fiber monocoque, which isn't going to happen anywhere near this price point.
Awesome review, this is really appreciated! Now I just have to make up my mind in either getting the 2.0 or 3.0. This video is making me lean towards the 2.0. What would be nice if someone did a hp tune on the 2.0 to see how much the car engine could handle. I guess we can only wait and watch.
The 3.0L is obviously a better car and it sounds amazing. But if you can find the right deal on the 2.0L I think it makes sense to buy. At 43k your getting a amazing looking and fun car to drive everyday. Plus most 3.0L supra I find at dealerships right now are loaded and or marked up.
Another great video! I have a Veloster N with the dual clutch and it’s a great running little car but there are just certain things about it that look cheap. The interior especially. I’m going to check out a Supra 2.0 this weekend that I may trade the Veloster for. Would you say that they perform similar in the engine performance/trans department?
Crazy seems like they stole the digital engine noise right out of the F56 Mini Cooper. Sounds identical to how my Mini Cooper sounded. I know they used the same B48 engine but i figured they wouldn't have used the same sound. Looks like a fun car though. Pretty easy to tune B48 engine to over 300 with minimal mods and a tune.
Soooo…. Would you rather own this over a M3P? If not, why do I want to keep buying horses? Yes it’ll get me from A-Z, but I’ve been spoiled by Mr Ford and no longer want to go back to the blacksmith or have to buy oats and hey. Would be a great candidate for Toyota to make their first electric sports car with.
M3P. Isn’t that $20k more than a 2.0? Also who would make their first electric car a sports car. These things don’t actually make money. It’s to get people to buy more cars. The rear end curves are copied on a bunch of other Toyota vehicles. It’s a sales pitch.
I would take a Veloster N / Elantra N with either a 6 speed manual or 8 speed dual clutch and save $10k - $15k..... just my opinion ( I own a Veloster N 6 speed manual and love it)
@@LazyData The 2.0 was a great car but the torque with the B58 engine is something else man. It has as much torque as a stock lambo Huracan (dyno) and it's amazing value for what you get. I had a turbo charged FRS before and the supra felt just like it, it was a lot of fun but I wanted something with more power. Also, the B58 is very well known for being overbuilt. People are getting 600-800 horsepower from the engine with minimal mods (and it's been reliable). Mine currently has a downpipe, tune, and E85. I can do 10.9-11.2 quarter miles with my R888's. Love it!
@@or2wheels Ah so a grunt thing? Cool cool. Looking to buy one of the two myself in the coming years. Interesting that it seems to be pulling dyno numbers consistently larger than what's advertised. Thanks for the reply!
I know these aren’t comparable cars aside from price but I’d take a golf r over the 2.0 Supra. You’re just giving up too much practicality for the Supra it doesn’t seem worth it for the 2.0. Ya it looks cool but it’s not fast and doesn’t sound good. I’d happily drive one through a canyon but I’m not dropping $48k on it.
I had a 2016 Golf R too! The MQB platform is impressive. Fun factor is no comparison though for those that enjoy the twisties (IMO at least). Awesome car though and they are highly capable!
@@mperformanceedition7441 I had a 16' gti. German cars are just amazing from a build quality standpoint. Yes maintenance costs more, but everything is designed to cruise at 200kph on the autobahn. Got a 16' S6 after, drove back from napa following a crazy civic driver at 110mph (pandemic so no traffic). Felt like 60mph in a normal car. Daughter sleeping in the back and my dad was riding shotgun. Its just a different standard. I love german cars.
A great, no-nonsense review. I own this exact car and it is a joy to drive. As I have matured, I realize chasing the lowest 0-60 time is a fool's game as four-seat electric family car can toast supercars and keep pace with hypercars nowadays. I care more about the feel, look and driving experience. The 2.0 Supra delivers on these 100%. It serves as my daily driver and provides a daily smile. This is no longer the 80's/90's and the car is better in many ways due to the collaboration with BMW, as you correctly noted. You have a new subscriber!
Glad you liked it! Sundays video is a Supra video as well!
Completely agree! I found a amazing deal on a 2.0L selling under MSRP at my local dealership. Driving this car makes you feel like your in something special. Something that cannot be measured in terms of numbers. Glad to hear like minded people out there.
@@Gjeebs bro … need your feedback about the supra 2.0 riding comfort against the focus st (i own an 16 st) and you did before .. is it far better than the harsh one in the st, or just a little.. as you the 2.0 supra doesn’t have that adaptive suspension in the 3.0 … planning to buy one soon.. waiting for ya
@@Gjeebshello
It really looks like a blast to drive. It is always nice getting your perspective on these cars, especially since you are also a former Focus ST owner. That car was such a good bang for the buck.
Hard to beat the practicality and fun. I think that’s the only hot hatch that didn’t understeer.
Thank you for the review. Straight to the point and gave me much needed insight.
Glad it helped!
100% agree with you on the steering wheel, it’s what’s holding me back from buying one. Great review Gjeebs! Looking forward to your 3.0 review.
A steering wheel is keeping you from buying a car? LOL
Absolutely love my Supra 2.0. Tuned and running E30, we are now at stock 3.0 level performance, but around 240 or more pounds lighter (after swapping the stock wheels for some Gram Lights). Insanely balanced and agile in the corners, one of the main reasons I chose this over the 3 liter. Much easier to add power then shed hundreds of pounds of weight on a factory boosted car.
That’s awesome
can i send you a message? i have some questions if you have some time.
@@Matt_417HondasandFriends Sure Matt, I'll respond as soon as I can buddy ;b
@@mperformanceedition7441 did you track your 2.0 at all or mainly just daily?
@@Matt_417HondasandFriends I'm lucky to be near the mountains, so we have all kinds of amazing twisty roads to have fun on (part of what got me into sports cars so young).
No track time, but I drive all my cars the way they were meant to be 🏎 While being safe of course and on empty roads I know by heart 😉 How about you?
Great review. Google says this thing weighs 3100 lbs, I can’t believe it’s as heavy as the CTR with half as much space! Nonetheless, bet it’s a blast to drive
You mean a Ruf CTR. Those don't come close to meeting modern safety standards. It's nearly impossible to make a car under 3000lbs unless you use a carbon fiber monocoque, which isn't going to happen anywhere near this price point.
Awesome review, this is really appreciated! Now I just have to make up my mind in either getting the 2.0 or 3.0. This video is making me lean towards the 2.0. What would be nice if someone did a hp tune on the 2.0 to see how much the car engine could handle. I guess we can only wait and watch.
I'll shake hands with you Ben when you do the new Ford Focus ST review 😁
The 3.0L is obviously a better car and it sounds amazing. But if you can find the right deal on the 2.0L I think it makes sense to buy. At 43k your getting a amazing looking and fun car to drive everyday. Plus most 3.0L supra I find at dealerships right now are loaded and or marked up.
Another great video! I have a Veloster N with the dual clutch and it’s a great running little car but there are just certain things about it that look cheap. The interior especially. I’m going to check out a Supra 2.0 this weekend that I may trade the Veloster for. Would you say that they perform similar in the engine performance/trans department?
I have read/heard 2.0 is less hassle to tunning
I am 1,87cm and 100 kilos. Would i be fitting comfortably?
man I am still deciding on the 2.0 or 3.0. All the dealers near me all wanted above MSRP. 🤬🤬🤬
Yea obviously never pay above that! So annoying
Is it possible to add the 3.0 rims to the 2.0 ?
Was the the AWD ID4 more fun to drive?
Hahaha no
Taken on Europe
It’s enough if you haven’t ever driven a 3.0
Crazy seems like they stole the digital engine noise right out of the F56 Mini Cooper. Sounds identical to how my Mini Cooper sounded. I know they used the same B48 engine but i figured they wouldn't have used the same sound. Looks like a fun car though. Pretty easy to tune B48 engine to over 300 with minimal mods and a tune.
Spot on!
Quad cam
Limiter
Soooo…. Would you rather own this over a M3P? If not, why do I want to keep buying horses? Yes it’ll get me from A-Z, but I’ve been spoiled by Mr Ford and no longer want to go back to the blacksmith or have to buy oats and hey. Would be a great candidate for Toyota to make their first electric sports car with.
I would take the Supra 3.0 over the M3P but not the 2.0
M3P. Isn’t that $20k more than a 2.0?
Also who would make their first electric car a sports car. These things don’t actually make money. It’s to get people to buy more cars. The rear end curves are copied on a bunch of other Toyota vehicles. It’s a sales pitch.
I would take a Veloster N / Elantra N with either a 6 speed manual or 8 speed dual clutch and save $10k - $15k..... just my opinion ( I own a Veloster N 6 speed manual and love it)
The N is a great platform too!
I drove the 2.0 and the 3.0 .... I own the 3.0 now .... that's all you need to know LOL
So your saying the more expensive one is the better one? Ok I will need to write this down when I visit a dealership.
@@Mike-dd8bd Good idea, don't want to forget that.
Older comment but just in case. What was the reason you went with the 3.0?
@@LazyData The 2.0 was a great car but the torque with the B58 engine is something else man. It has as much torque as a stock lambo Huracan (dyno) and it's amazing value for what you get. I had a turbo charged FRS before and the supra felt just like it, it was a lot of fun but I wanted something with more power. Also, the B58 is very well known for being overbuilt. People are getting 600-800 horsepower from the engine with minimal mods (and it's been reliable). Mine currently has a downpipe, tune, and E85. I can do 10.9-11.2 quarter miles with my R888's. Love it!
@@or2wheels Ah so a grunt thing? Cool cool. Looking to buy one of the two myself in the coming years. Interesting that it seems to be pulling dyno numbers consistently larger than what's advertised. Thanks for the reply!
I know these aren’t comparable cars aside from price but I’d take a golf r over the 2.0 Supra.
You’re just giving up too much practicality for the Supra it doesn’t seem worth it for the 2.0. Ya it looks cool but it’s not fast and doesn’t sound good. I’d happily drive one through a canyon but I’m not dropping $48k on it.
I fully agree. I would take an R as well
I had a 2016 Golf R too! The MQB platform is impressive. Fun factor is no comparison though for those that enjoy the twisties (IMO at least). Awesome car though and they are highly capable!
@@mperformanceedition7441 I had a 16' gti. German cars are just amazing from a build quality standpoint. Yes maintenance costs more, but everything is designed to cruise at 200kph on the autobahn.
Got a 16' S6 after, drove back from napa following a crazy civic driver at 110mph (pandemic so no traffic). Felt like 60mph in a normal car. Daughter sleeping in the back and my dad was riding shotgun. Its just a different standard.
I love german cars.
I liked the video to support you, but I'm not at all interested in this vehicle
Haha thank you
GR86 over this turd, without a doubt.
turd? gr86 is the turd...2.0 supra performance is much better than the gr86