Pro tip: If it is saying you are not at the house turn on Airplane mode, then go back to app, question mark, choose "GPs not working at house" go back to the map and it will let you complete take pic ect.
I do Flex all the time. It is as easy as you get. I get 3 to 5 hour blocks and finish 3 hour blocks in 2 hours, and 5 hour blocks in 3.5 hours. Where I do flex, I scan every package, number the package, and load by stop. Easy as can be. Sorting by stop is absolutely necessary. Just like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get.
At the end of the day people are going to have opinions left and right but if God is opening up a door to work for a side hustle and build income for something go for it , now yes be mindful of the gas , maintenance but I promise God will give you wisdom on how to organize everything . God will give the amount of packages you need a day trust on him you got this 😎
@@idareyoutolove Man it’s crazy that we even have to think twice to know what God we talking about in this last days 🥲 but soon all knee shall bow and every tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is lord
Organizing by stop is so slow man!! Sort by TBA number. They're always located near the regular barcode. They end in 0000's and you just section off your car to hold each thousands group. Example, in my car I put 1000 and 2000 in the front seat, 3000 4000 5000 in the back seat, 6 7 8 9000 in the trunk. There's probly 10 but I just put them in the 1's anyway. It's just whatever digit comes before the zeroes and you sort by that. You literally look at the numbers on the packages while loading your car. It's really that easy. No scanning or writing and risking itinerary switching up on you. And it's also helpful because the TBA number is located in the app as well, on each stop. That number never ever changes.
I did my first block yesterday. I learned this way from gig mom, to scan again to show the stop number. Then put them in order of the stop so I can grab it fast and easy. I did a 3 hour block at 84.00 with 22 packages. Got it done in about 1 hour and 45 min. Not bad at all! I highly recommend doing it this way.
I prefer picking up at logistic stations over same day delivery stations. Logistic stations sends you to their local area, same-day delivery stations sends you anywhere around the county
One of my warehouses labels the packages by Letter, AAA, BBB, CCC, and DDD. I sort them by letter in the different locations in my car, i.e., A in front, B in back seat, and C&D in the rear. That way i only have to look through a few packages at each stop. The other warehouse actually numbers the packages from 1-whatever according to stop, but it pays less per hour.
I do in flex in Austin. Our flex station has an actual parking lot. So we have time to sit anf organize. I put the envelopes in a bin and organize by last name. Then all the boxes and such in the trunk organized by last name. Super helpful in my opinion
I been driving for flex two years now. Its cool for a part-time job. Last years I made 9845.00 for the year which is amazing but remember I'm working part-time hours only
@@Yaa7700there will be no taxes taken out. You will have to give the $ amount you earned to your accountant. You are an independent contractor. There are no w-2’s.
Living less than a mile from the DCX2 warehouse helps me a lot when Flex is actually busy, i.e. in late November and early December, since in that case you can get clustered stops in just one location. It is, however, quite the challenge to get those packages properly organized without that search bar scanner - great to see that you’ve got that, because it helps tremendously.
@@YourDriverMike Yellow or pink, and rectangular. They’ll typically have 2 numbers on them, separated by a dash, where the number before the dash is the stop number and the number after the dash is the package number. For example, “1-1” is Stop 1/Package 1; “1-2” is Stop 1/Package 2, “2-1” is Stop 2/Package 1, and so on. I’ve used this method to organize them before and it makes it possible to get them properly organized before even leaving the warehouse if you’re there early enough.
I personally like to use those ikea squares and put the bags and envelopes in there buy stop group 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40. That way i dont have to number everyone just the container. When you get to a stop move the next box to the front seat. As for the boxes i just number those and put them in the car in reverse stop order. Helps so very much
I deliver Flex and trust me I know all about delivering far away… And that Barcode hack is A LIFE SAVER unless they update your route otw to your first stop due to some package error while still at the warehouse. (Like torn open package being removed from your itinerary. This causes your route to update and the app then update the package stop order) I’ve had to pull over and renumber my packages three times in the past year of driving for Flex that’s also driving usually two 3-4.5 hour shifts per day 4-5 days a week. So I’m all honesty it is rare. I try to tell EVERY new driver at the warehouse (VNC3) about the Barcode trick. Love this channel Btw! You’re honest and give the facts
the search bar technique makes "organizing by stop" SUPER easy! i deliver in Portland, Oregon and see 5 hour blocks regularly. base oay is $21 an hour, which i dont really take. I'm lucky enough to regularly see $23-$27/hr (even had a $40/hr route one time!) i feel like Portland flex drivers are hyper aware of Amazon's practices so I'll see those $21/hr blocks sit in the offers section until 1 hour before the block then get gobbled up once the surge pay hits. also, regarding the geopin issue, if you're at the screen that says you're out of the delivery circle, turn you mobile data off. this will prompt the app to ask you to change the pin. i've done this with locked gates in rural areas. just move the pin at the driveway entrance so the next driver can find the place.
That pay was horrible for all the possible hassles and expenses. I make more working security an hour and I'm not having to hustle all over town to do it. They should be paying closer to $30/hr to account for all your expenses.
It's really just for people who need money reasonably quickly or to aid cash flow as the guy said in the video at the end. Amazon know how to get blood out of a stone.
What I do is I put the boxes in the trunk and back seats along with big envelopes, I put the small envelopes in the front seat. I check at each stop if the drop-off is a envelope or box and with that info I know where to look at, by not spending the extra time at the warehouse numbering the boxes and envelopes I’ve been finishing my route 1.5 hours early.
My goal is Cash Flow and Yes Amazon Flex makes sense for me! Nobody explains better than you! Your videos on these topics are simply the best. You truly have a business mindset
My understanding is that if your business base is your home "commute" miles are deductible. All miles are an expense. Gas is not free for "commute", ware and tare on your vehicle "commute" are still a cost to you.
I've done two blocks so far and I'm in a very rural area. In fact, I had no cell service at all for over half the route on the last one. The circle thing was an issue. I was standing on the porch but it was telling me the radius was in the lake 50 feet away. I couldn't call due to no service and had to fidget with the app a bit to set a new pin. That was a real pain tbh and wasted around 10 minutes each time it happened. Still, after expenses were accounted for including gas, oil change, tire use and miles on the car were factored in, it was over $25 an hour for a fun scenic drive around the lake.
Are you sure you're accounting for total cost of operation of your vehicle for the miles driven? All maintenance, depreciation, fuel and any additional insurance you wouldn't otherwise have. According to AAA, new cars can cost over 70 cents per mile and that was a while ago. For the tax year 2023, the deduction is 65.5 cents per mile. In 2018 it was costing me a quarter per mile to operate a 10 year old Odyssey which I only paid $6400 for. That was with me doing all my own repairs except state inspections, alignments and tire mounting and balancing. If I paid myself labor or had to pay an auto service technician I think it would come much closer to the allowable deduction. I have a spreadsheet I made in Excel which accounts for all this when I plug in the numbers for each shift and typically it's close to $10 an hour to operate the vehicle. Or at least it was last time I checked.
Here in Pennsylvania just about a couple months ago we were getting consistent three hour blocks for $130 and then about a month ago they introduced a brand new warehouse and the warehouse told me that they just let a bunch of new flex drivers on board. Now you can barely find any work at all and most of the time Amazon will just throw out whatever kind of loan numbers and if people except those numbers ahead of time basically Amazon doesn’t have to drop the price again and that’s exactly what has been happening now there’s basically hardly any work at all so looks like too many people found out about Amazon Flex and the magic is all gone now, the best thing I can tell people is if you live in a community where there’s not a lot of land around like out in the country area you probably will always have work, but if you live in the city with lots of people, you probably won’t get many orders
I signed up for flex when I lived in Los Angeles. The only routes that were ever available were 3 hours for $60, during rush hour traffic. Complete trash, idk who’s desperate enough to do that
I just quit driving for Amazon Flex in Toledo, Oh. I rarely have less than 40 packages to deliver in a 3hr-4hr blocks and they were primarily all out in rural areas. Most days I would be able to finish on time but there were times I wouldn't finish on time especially if I had a 3hr shift. If I didn't finish delivering I would be dinged and if I would deliver past my time until all of the packages were delivered I would be dinged. I always had issues in Toledo, Oh taking me down in my driving status. I quit with them the other day and finally had enough. I worked Amazon Flex when I lived in Arizona never had an issue. I really think it depends on the state you drive in.
Flex was horrible got 4 hr block for $72 nothing but apts by the time find parking gate code look for # can take up to 30 minutes per delivery after 6 hrs I quit brought back 15 out of 45 pkgs Amazon goons weren’t happy
$72 - $51 = $21 BEFORE having to pay taxes at the end of the year. So looking at maybe $17-$18 total profit for a 3.5 hour shift. So an average of $5.15 an hour? Even if you consider the $51 mileage a write off I question if this is a sustainable wage. But it can get you by. Just have to remember to save for your tax bill.
That 51 is miles not dollars. But, I don't think he factored in fuel cost in the total. And you should pay your car in cent per mile, to go to a maintenance fund for oil changes and car repairs. And probably should factor in insurance cost. Take those out, then you have your net total. He probably spent around 5 to 7 bucks on fuel, and I would put .13 to .15 cpm for car maintenance fund. So yea he probably spent 10 to 15 on gas, car, and other expenses. So he net about 57 to 62 dollars.
Use the yellow sticker it should show the stop that’s how I used to sort my packages and my 4hr shift turned into a 3 or sometimes on the rare side 2.30 route I loved those days.
What helps me a lot is all envelops and plastic in the front seat. Lower numbers the seat and higher numbers by the floor in a bag. Boxes 10s in one side of back seat and higher numbers the other side. Any way bigger boxes in the trunk so I know if it’s bunch of boxes
@@elibomber - As a Uber Eats driver I can say there are a lot of variables, and in the given time frame there is no guarantee that you will get good offers. You can't depend on them.
That’s awesome for you but Uber eats for me hasn’t been great. I’m very selective with picking up better paying orders. But lately it sucks. At the end of the day after I figured out how much I made per hour. And it was pitiful. Anywhere from $14-$18- per hour. Last year I always made a minimum of $20-$25 per hour if not more. It’s horrible now. Amazon flex by me pays you anywhere from $20-$27- per hour. I will stick with them thank you.
Here’s who may still claim mileage on taxes: • Small business owners. Self-employed taxpayers who file Schedule C or Schedule F. • Other self-employed workers. This includes independent contractors, such as drivers for rideshare services. For rideshare drivers, such as Uber or Lyft, this means the drive from home to pick up the first passenger and the drive home after the last drop off are not deductible. Only the trips driven between the first business stop and the subsequent stops can be used for claiming mileage on your taxes. Note: if your home office is your main business location, then trips from home to other business locations are deductible.
Horrible pay. Surge pricing is the best but not available all the time. Stop 1-10 front seat 10-20/25 Back sest 20/25-30/40 trunk. And rotate as you go
If you're having a lot of GPS problems then you probably need a new phone. You need to keep your phone updated with the latest software because Amazon Flex is constantly doing software updates and if you're not running the latest version of Android or OS then you will have problems. Also, if you're outside the orange circle and it's not letting you move the pin, try turnng on Airplane Mode and make sure Bluetooth is on and it should let you move the pin.
Yeah my guy I started numbering my packages last month and it really helps a lot . ✈️✈️Also I have a laundry basket in the front seat with me for all the small packages that can fit inside of it. Just a pro tip I been using for anyone. In my area 80% of the time I do $25 and up blocks as well. For anyone thinking base pay is the only thing they have it’s not. Not easy to catch but do have them.
Thought about doing this as a side hustle. I applied for it but after seeing the gross earnings, it’s just terrible pay. I earn $65 per hour as an independent contractor here in NYC! I would rather work alone and continue to grow my own-self!
I've done the job about a year and a half now. For organizing what helps me is a couple of plastic bins that go in the front seat of the car. If it's an SSD warehouse with the AAA-BBB-CCC-DDD I will take the small bags and envelopes, putting them in alphabetical order by street - one gets the AAA and BBB, the other gets CCC and DDD. Bigger boxes I'll put in the back of the car in the same way with really big stuff in the back. With the envelopes and small bags up front I just reach over.
Here in Indiana, they’re mostly short staffed and we get our own carts. I usually look for a cart that has 30+ packages so I can stay in my area. Anything less would be an hour drive!
You can take a hit on your standing and tell them to unassign you if you're given a route you don't want. Sometimes making zero is less stressful than making $50-80.
Do other amazon warehouses not number your stops for you? Every route I've had, there are yellow stickers that show which number each stop is. It's such a waste of time to load up, then drive off somewhere and reorganize them. Organize them at the warehouse. That's part of your time on your shift.
I vaguely remember someone trying to do that at this warehouse and an associate yelling at them to leave. The yellow stickers are you referencing the TBA numbers or something else.
@@YourDriverMike that's insane. My experience with flex is very different from yours. I try to show up as late as possible, because you're more likely to get a free route or just a few packages. I used to believe being the first one there lead to a better route which wasn't true at all.
i hate delivering for amazon they pay you by shift could be 30 packages as it can be 40 packages or more when i first started no one wanted to explain to me for the first 3 shifts i was lost until a girl kind of helped me i learned everything on my own its not worth it ad they give you packages for a 3am shift and its to businesses that are not open then you have to go back to the warehouse to return it they have to do better you got lucky getting 28 packages they over stack you if they are behind on some packages not delivered the day before its not worth it unless they give you the actul pay with the amount of packages and the area of the route i stopped driving with them
With flex are you able to cash out your earnings after completing your 'block'? I've signed up but I'm not sure if it will be worth it for me. ATM I need to be able to cash out daily (sometimes multiple times a day) which is why I love UberEATS. But like doordash, UberEATS, and I'm sure Amazon flex do not pay great at all. Someone driving a V8 pickup truck should be getting higher paying orders than someone driving a dam scooter or Tesla, IMO.
Pssst! Don’t you think it’s safer to organize your packages on the warehouses property? I used to pull over down the street or go to a gas station to organize a packages, I always got a lot of looks. And felt uneasy. I feel like it’s probably a risk and a robbery waiting to happen.
Flex is not worth it tbh, the pandora's box of mystery for routes is way too much of a hassle to determine whether or not you'll be spawning today either close or far, then the number of packages, along with what are you dealing with, because christ I can't stand apartments in Downtown areas, they're the worst!
I think it’s dumb how customers aren’t allowed to go get their package and save a little extra. Businesses are losing to amazon because they don’t have and don’t allow new products to be sold.
I always scan the packages to right then the stop #. Plus in the warehouse that I go you just go in scan ur license and look for your cart. So we don’t wait for anyone
$72 for 4 hours and 28 deliveries? $18-$20 an hour and you can be stuck driving nearly an hour away for one package? Yea, no thanks.I just made $53 driving UE for 2hr 14min and drove 26 miles total. Cool video though.
Not to knock anyone who does this. But your better off doing uber as a side hustle. Work for yourself. Only take the rides u want. And u get anywhere from 18-45 an hour. Ive made around $130 in 4 hours
If you have for example a 4 hour shift. Do they pay you extra for example if it takes you 5 hours to complete your shift? Not because your a slow bad driver, but maybe because of horrible traffic slowing you down or bad weather?
I don't like on how many hours we can work we are self contractor we should be able to work as much as we want and we are typically aloud to do 8hrs shift, they just need to let us work more like doordash do because we are technically not Amazon employees and we should not have to fallow 8hrs drive time like Amazon driver's do. Also we are not allowed to work 7 days a week nether so be careful on what days you want to do flex if some of your other gigs pay better on specific day's
We put so much importance on money people forget to just live. Some people can live without money. Your opinion is just that. Dont knock something unless your looking to do Something about it
I’ve been doing Amazon Flex for over a year now, and I wait until the hourly rates are bare minimum 20 bucks an hour before I accept a route. If other desperate people take them before then, I just do Uber and Lyft then.
I put the first 5-7 in front seat. Anything agter that up until like 20 input in back seat. 20 amd up in trunk. If I have 40 packages then ill do up to maybe 25 in the back seat
If you’re driving 4 hours that’s about half or or more of your gas waste. And gas is around 40 to 50$ for full. You’re not getting much and considering putting all the miles u put on your car
For me I found if I can get early AM batch that pays well with Flex then do other apps. My area 3am 4am ish batches the roads are clear they don't give you many if at all the places you need special access and not as hot out. I try to get the $26hr to $38hr+ batches, hard part for me has been getting constant times am wise even if its not high pay its at least $21 ish just hard to get every day. Way I see it is do this first then the others as most the others are not active and or don't offer good amounts. After doing flex you have rest the day to hit 300+
Looking for cash flow. I’m unsure if the flex makes sense. I used to be an UberEats driver and I delivered a couple of Walmart packages. As I was unaware it was probably tied to Walmart Spark app. Do you think that WalMart Sparks mirrors Amazon Flex Delivery Service?
I’ve worked for Amazon as well, honestly it’s a chill gig but they are underpaid for sure. I always finish 3-4 hours earlier than everyone, I’m just trynna go home lol. I rescue no one & for the organizing part I dump a full bag in the front, boxes on the ground and envelopes on the passenger seat. Easiest way to grab and go.
$72 for 4hours is not worth it. Ur using ur gas also. I say $30 a hour would be fair so u can have ur profit and you’re using your vehicle wear and tear.
Just wondering, don't the the packages come to you in groups? It sounds like they are just all thrown together. When I delivered for Amazon we organized everything by the number sticker so why not do it that way?
This might work well in usa where people are happy for some reason to have their packages left in their doorsteps. People in uk wouldn't stand for that. So deliveries in uk would take longer.
Dude you're kidding me it takes you 4 hours to deliver 40 stops? I have those 40 stops done in an hour on my routes.. I usually do 190 stops in 5-6 hours
@@free2beme375 just try it out. for me it wasn't worth the headache and gas prices in az were like 6 bucks a gallon at the time and they had me going all over the place to random neighborhoods so it wasn't like i was just dropping packages in a one area i would take one package to a gated community and pray i could get in. most of the time i was guessing the code 1978 which is a popular one, but i think that is just an az problem where half the neighborhoods are gated. So at the end of the day i wasn't making enough for it to be worth it. not to mention how hard it is to get a block. you have to sit and press refresh over and over and whoever pressed it first gets the block. they say after a certain time you get a reserved block for the area you want but that is a lie. i would have to drive to a warehouse 30 miles from my house and then they would send me another 30 miles further away from home. if you live in a big capitol city it would be more viable, but questionably not worth the headache still.. a lot of stuff will be labeled wrong so you will be searching for an envelope when it turns out to be a box. anyways if you need some cash right now i would give it a try it could be a fun adventure/learning experience while you look for something better. the one plus i would say is that you have the freedom to sort of pick your shift. and you could do an early shift and a later shift to make some extra money. but getting that second shift is not easy i wasn't able to always get the 2nd shift as it will be limited to a 3 hour block and you'll; have to be refreshing a million times throughout the day.. i said i did it once actually i ended up doing it for like 3 months you end up running your car into the ground and not making enough to fix it or get a new one so i see it as a dead end. this is just my opinion an experience. maybe it would be different for someone else.
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Pro tip: If it is saying you are not at the house turn on Airplane mode, then go back to app, question mark, choose "GPs not working at house" go back to the map and it will let you complete take pic ect.
I do Flex all the time. It is as easy as you get. I get 3 to 5 hour blocks and finish 3 hour blocks in 2 hours, and 5 hour blocks in 3.5 hours. Where I do flex, I scan every package, number the package, and load by stop. Easy as can be.
Sorting by stop is absolutely necessary. Just like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get.
Compensation? Mileage driven? Etc
It's getting worse
im about to start an try it out
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Do you still get paid in full even if you finish your deliveries early?
At the end of the day people are going to have opinions left and right but if God is opening up a door to work for a side hustle and build income for something go for it , now yes be mindful of the gas , maintenance but I promise God will give you wisdom on how to organize everything . God will give the amount of packages you need a day trust on him you got this 😎
Not sure what God, hope it’s Jesus you believe. But Thank you!
@@idareyoutolove Man it’s crazy that we even have to think twice to know what God we talking about in this last days 🥲 but soon all knee shall bow and every tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is lord
Just gotta start and end your day with a pray and a few in between is even better. Just gotta connect with our Creator.😊
@@natalieharris1657 Jesús Christ 👍🏻
Thanks man God bless🙏
Organizing by stop is so slow man!! Sort by TBA number. They're always located near the regular barcode. They end in 0000's and you just section off your car to hold each thousands group. Example, in my car I put 1000 and 2000 in the front seat, 3000 4000 5000 in the back seat, 6 7 8 9000 in the trunk. There's probly 10 but I just put them in the 1's anyway. It's just whatever digit comes before the zeroes and you sort by that. You literally look at the numbers on the packages while loading your car. It's really that easy. No scanning or writing and risking itinerary switching up on you. And it's also helpful because the TBA number is located in the app as well, on each stop. That number never ever changes.
I did my first block yesterday. I learned this way from gig mom, to scan again to show the stop number. Then put them in order of the stop so I can grab it fast and easy. I did a 3 hour block at 84.00 with 22 packages. Got it done in about 1 hour and 45 min. Not bad at all! I highly recommend doing it this way.
I prefer picking up at logistic stations over same day delivery stations. Logistic stations sends you to their local area, same-day delivery stations sends you anywhere around the county
i usually take the whole foods blocks, usually take around 2 hours and i get paid almost 60-100 each time based off the tips
Our city sucks. no one tips lol. So i have to stay away from whole foods. It sucks because I live right across the street from it.
One of my warehouses labels the packages by Letter, AAA, BBB, CCC, and DDD. I sort them by letter in the different locations in my car, i.e., A in front, B in back seat, and C&D in the rear. That way i only have to look through a few packages at each stop. The other warehouse actually numbers the packages from 1-whatever according to stop, but it pays less per hour.
I do the same lol As and Ds in the front seat B left , C right ✅️ 😅 while some guys waste 45 mins sorting at the wharehouse I toss it in and go
i love this and it helpful
I do in flex in Austin. Our flex station has an actual parking lot. So we have time to sit anf organize. I put the envelopes in a bin and organize by last name. Then all the boxes and such in the trunk organized by last name. Super helpful in my opinion
I been driving for flex two years now. Its cool for a part-time job. Last years I made 9845.00 for the year which is amazing but remember I'm working part-time hours only
Taxes taken out?
@@Yaa7700there will be no taxes taken out. You will have to give the $ amount you earned to your accountant. You are an independent contractor. There are no w-2’s.
Typically filed as a 1099-NEC (non-employee compensation). If you forget, Amazon will still report it to the IRS and you will be billed interest.
Living less than a mile from the DCX2 warehouse helps me a lot when Flex is actually busy, i.e. in late November and early December, since in that case you can get clustered stops in just one location. It is, however, quite the challenge to get those packages properly organized without that search bar scanner - great to see that you’ve got that, because it helps tremendously.
Is there any other way to find stops? Someone mentioned the yellow stickers? Took about 10 min to do but I can probably get that down to 5-8
@@YourDriverMike Yellow or pink, and rectangular. They’ll typically have 2 numbers on them, separated by a dash, where the number before the dash is the stop number and the number after the dash is the package number.
For example, “1-1” is Stop 1/Package 1; “1-2” is Stop 1/Package 2, “2-1” is Stop 2/Package 1, and so on. I’ve used this method to organize them before and it makes it possible to get them properly organized before even leaving the warehouse if you’re there early enough.
It seems you get more offers when closer to the pick up spot!!!
I personally like to use those ikea squares and put the bags and envelopes in there buy stop group 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40. That way i dont have to number everyone just the container. When you get to a stop move the next box to the front seat. As for the boxes i just number those and put them in the car in reverse stop order. Helps so very much
This is how I do it. I’m normally done loading in about 10 minutes
What is the hiring process for amazon flex delivery driver? Is there any interview for the same?
@@SeaNeha no just sign up on the app and input your license watch some videos
I deliver Flex and trust me I know all about delivering far away… And that Barcode hack is A LIFE SAVER unless they update your route otw to your first stop due to some package error while still at the warehouse. (Like torn open package being removed from your itinerary. This causes your route to update and the app then update the package stop order) I’ve had to pull over and renumber my packages three times in the past year of driving for Flex that’s also driving usually two 3-4.5 hour shifts per day 4-5 days a week. So I’m all honesty it is rare. I try to tell EVERY new driver at the warehouse (VNC3) about the Barcode trick. Love this channel Btw! You’re honest and give the facts
Hey I need to find out about this barcode I start with them very soon this week
Can you please elaborate that barcode trick with us
the search bar technique makes "organizing by stop" SUPER easy!
i deliver in Portland, Oregon and see 5 hour blocks regularly. base oay is $21 an hour, which i dont really take. I'm lucky enough to regularly see $23-$27/hr (even had a $40/hr route one time!)
i feel like Portland flex drivers are hyper aware of Amazon's practices so I'll see those $21/hr blocks sit in the offers section until 1 hour before the block then get gobbled up once the surge pay hits.
also, regarding the geopin issue, if you're at the screen that says you're out of the delivery circle, turn you mobile data off. this will prompt the app to ask you to change the pin. i've done this with locked gates in rural areas. just move the pin at the driveway entrance so the next driver can find the place.
That pay was horrible for all the possible hassles and expenses. I make more working security an hour and I'm not having to hustle all over town to do it. They should be paying closer to $30/hr to account for all your expenses.
@@rehn4529ignore them. Just another hater
I just sort my packages by last name. Even with 40-50 packages I rarely have issues finding the stop
Every route is different, if you don't know be quiet
Sure
It's really just for people who need money reasonably quickly or to aid cash flow as the guy said in the video at the end. Amazon know how to get blood out of a stone.
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What I do is I put the boxes in the trunk and back seats along with big envelopes, I put the small envelopes in the front seat. I check at each stop if the drop-off is a envelope or box and with that info I know where to look at, by not spending the extra time at the warehouse numbering the boxes and envelopes I’ve been finishing my route 1.5 hours early.
My goal is Cash Flow and Yes Amazon Flex makes sense for me! Nobody explains better than you! Your videos on these topics are simply the best. You truly have a business mindset
My understanding is that if your business base is your home "commute" miles are deductible. All miles are an expense. Gas is not free for "commute", ware and tare on your vehicle "commute" are still a cost to you.
I've done two blocks so far and I'm in a very rural area. In fact, I had no cell service at all for over half the route on the last one. The circle thing was an issue. I was standing on the porch but it was telling me the radius was in the lake 50 feet away. I couldn't call due to no service and had to fidget with the app a bit to set a new pin. That was a real pain tbh and wasted around 10 minutes each time it happened. Still, after expenses were accounted for including gas, oil change, tire use and miles on the car were factored in, it was over $25 an hour for a fun scenic drive around the lake.
One thing you can do is drop it, leave then call support and tell them to manually mark it bc of no service I’ve done that once.
Are you sure you're accounting for total cost of operation of your vehicle for the miles driven?
All maintenance, depreciation, fuel and any additional insurance you wouldn't otherwise have.
According to AAA, new cars can cost over 70 cents per mile and that was a while ago.
For the tax year 2023, the deduction is 65.5 cents per mile.
In 2018 it was costing me a quarter per mile to operate a 10 year old Odyssey which I only paid $6400 for.
That was with me doing all my own repairs except state inspections, alignments and tire mounting and balancing.
If I paid myself labor or had to pay an auto service technician I think it would come much closer to the allowable deduction.
I have a spreadsheet I made in Excel which accounts for all this when I plug in the numbers for each shift and typically it's close to $10 an hour to operate the vehicle.
Or at least it was last time I checked.
Absolutely hate doing anything downtown
I use Ikea bags. They also fit 3 Amazon Fresh/Whole Foods bags perfectly. They are a lifesaver during rain.
Here in Pennsylvania just about a couple months ago we were getting consistent three hour blocks for $130 and then about a month ago they introduced a brand new warehouse and the warehouse told me that they just let a bunch of new flex drivers on board. Now you can barely find any work at all and most of the time Amazon will just throw out whatever kind of loan numbers and if people except those numbers ahead of time basically Amazon doesn’t have to drop the price again and that’s exactly what has been happening now there’s basically hardly any work at all so looks like too many people found out about Amazon Flex and the magic is all gone now, the best thing I can tell people is if you live in a community where there’s not a lot of land around like out in the country area you probably will always have work, but if you live in the city with lots of people, you probably won’t get many orders
Where in PA do you work
I signed up for flex when I lived in Los Angeles. The only routes that were ever available were 3 hours for $60, during rush hour traffic. Complete trash, idk who’s desperate enough to do that
I just quit driving for Amazon Flex in Toledo, Oh. I rarely have less than 40 packages to deliver in a 3hr-4hr blocks and they were primarily all out in rural areas. Most days I would be able to finish on time but there were times I wouldn't finish on time especially if I had a 3hr shift. If I didn't finish delivering I would be dinged and if I would deliver past my time until all of the packages were delivered I would be dinged. I always had issues in Toledo, Oh taking me down in my driving status. I quit with them the other day and finally had enough. I worked Amazon Flex when I lived in Arizona never had an issue. I really think it depends on the state you drive in.
Flex was horrible got 4 hr block for $72 nothing but apts by the time find parking gate code look for # can take up to 30 minutes per delivery after 6 hrs I quit brought back 15 out of 45 pkgs Amazon goons weren’t happy
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$72 - $51 = $21 BEFORE having to pay taxes at the end of the year. So looking at maybe $17-$18 total profit for a 3.5 hour shift. So an average of $5.15 an hour? Even if you consider the $51 mileage a write off I question if this is a sustainable wage. But it can get you by. Just have to remember to save for your tax bill.
That 51 is miles not dollars. But, I don't think he factored in fuel cost in the total. And you should pay your car in cent per mile, to go to a maintenance fund for oil changes and car repairs. And probably should factor in insurance cost. Take those out, then you have your net total. He probably spent around 5 to 7 bucks on fuel, and I would put .13 to .15 cpm for car maintenance fund. So yea he probably spent 10 to 15 on gas, car, and other expenses. So he net about 57 to 62 dollars.
I’d hit that on a surge rate. Usually can get 4 hour blocks for $110-$130 here in FL
Use the yellow sticker it should show the stop that’s how I used to sort my packages and my 4hr shift turned into a 3 or sometimes on the rare side 2.30 route I loved those days.
I love flex actually! Only downside is near me they have same-day locations that can send you into 1 of NYC boroughs which is dumb
Fair, I’ve turned on instant offers and it’ll send me Fresh orders. Have yet to do one so I think I’m due
@@YourDriverMikeomg Amazon fresh is where it’s at!!!
What helps me a lot is all envelops and plastic in the front seat. Lower numbers the seat and higher numbers by the floor in a bag. Boxes 10s in one side of back seat and higher numbers the other side. Any way bigger boxes in the trunk so I know if it’s bunch of boxes
I just started with the flex app but the company provided me with a vehicle and so far I do 11 hr shifts with the promise of ot I’m happy ❤
I had a flex shift $54 for 3 hours. I made $53.99 with Uber for 1 hour and 40 minutes. No brainer, less stress, less work
So you’re saying Uber is better?
based on customer tips and surges yes. @@elibomber
@@elibomber - As a Uber Eats driver I can say there are a lot of variables, and in the given time frame there is no guarantee that you will get good offers. You can't depend on them.
That’s awesome for you but Uber eats for me hasn’t been great. I’m very selective with picking up better paying orders. But lately it sucks. At the end of the day after I figured out how much I made per hour. And it was pitiful. Anywhere from $14-$18- per hour. Last year I always made a minimum of $20-$25 per hour if not more. It’s horrible now. Amazon flex by me pays you anywhere from $20-$27- per hour. I will stick with them thank you.
@@carolynf34 oh yes totally understand different platforms work for different people. Flex just wasn’t my cup of tea.
Did it for the first time today. The navigation was horrible.
Here’s who may still claim mileage on taxes:
• Small business owners. Self-employed taxpayers who file Schedule C or Schedule F.
• Other self-employed workers. This includes independent contractors, such as drivers for rideshare services.
For rideshare drivers, such as Uber or Lyft, this means the drive from home to pick up the first passenger and the drive home after the last drop off are not deductible. Only the trips driven between the first business stop and the subsequent stops can be used for claiming mileage on your taxes.
Note: if your home office is your main business location, then trips from home to other business locations are deductible.
Horrible pay. Surge pricing is the best but not available all the time. Stop 1-10 front seat
10-20/25
Back sest
20/25-30/40 trunk. And rotate as you go
If you're having a lot of GPS problems then you probably need a new phone. You need to keep your phone updated with the latest software because Amazon Flex is constantly doing software updates and if you're not running the latest version of Android or OS then you will have problems.
Also, if you're outside the orange circle and it's not letting you move the pin, try turnng on Airplane Mode and make sure Bluetooth is on and it should let you move the pin.
A friend told me that when you scan your packages start at the bottom of the list and work your way up
Yeah my guy I started numbering my packages last month and it really helps a lot . ✈️✈️Also I have a laundry basket in the front seat with me for all the small packages that can fit inside of it. Just a pro tip I been using for anyone. In my area 80% of the time I do $25 and up blocks as well. For anyone thinking base pay is the only thing they have it’s not. Not easy to catch but do have them.
Thought about doing this as a side hustle. I applied for it but after seeing the gross earnings, it’s just terrible pay. I earn $65 per hour as an independent contractor here in NYC! I would rather work alone and continue to grow my own-self!
that's a slave job
I've done the job about a year and a half now. For organizing what helps me is a couple of plastic bins that go in the front seat of the car. If it's an SSD warehouse with the AAA-BBB-CCC-DDD I will take the small bags and envelopes, putting them in alphabetical order by street - one gets the AAA and BBB, the other gets CCC and DDD. Bigger boxes I'll put in the back of the car in the same way with really big stuff in the back. With the envelopes and small bags up front I just reach over.
Here in Indiana, they’re mostly short staffed and we get our own carts. I usually look for a cart that has 30+ packages so I can stay in my area. Anything less would be an hour drive!
It should tell you the stop number on the yellow driver aid sticker on the package. The stop number will be in parenthesis
Not true, maybe at your warehouse.
You can take a hit on your standing and tell them to unassign you if you're given a route you don't want. Sometimes making zero is less stressful than making $50-80.
Do other amazon warehouses not number your stops for you? Every route I've had, there are yellow stickers that show which number each stop is. It's such a waste of time to load up, then drive off somewhere and reorganize them. Organize them at the warehouse. That's part of your time on your shift.
I vaguely remember someone trying to do that at this warehouse and an associate yelling at them to leave. The yellow stickers are you referencing the TBA numbers or something else.
@@YourDriverMike that's insane. My experience with flex is very different from yours. I try to show up as late as possible, because you're more likely to get a free route or just a few packages. I used to believe being the first one there lead to a better route which wasn't true at all.
@@Budrow710not all warehouses are the same. I have 2 near me. One has the yellow stickers w stop numbers, the other does not
Gross $72 then $20 in gas. $52 Which is 17 an hr.
Where I live in upstate New York 4hr routes start at $100 I’ve seen them surge to $140 and $180 in the winter.
i hate delivering for amazon they pay you by shift could be 30 packages as it can be 40 packages or more when i first started no one wanted to explain to me for the first 3 shifts i was lost until a girl kind of helped me i learned everything on my own its not worth it ad they give you packages for a 3am shift and its to businesses that are not open then you have to go back to the warehouse to return it they have to do better you got lucky getting 28 packages they over stack you if they are behind on some packages not delivered the day before its not worth it unless they give you the actul pay with the amount of packages and the area of the route i stopped driving with them
With flex are you able to cash out your earnings after completing your 'block'? I've signed up but I'm not sure if it will be worth it for me. ATM I need to be able to cash out daily (sometimes multiple times a day) which is why I love UberEATS. But like doordash, UberEATS, and I'm sure Amazon flex do not pay great at all. Someone driving a V8 pickup truck should be getting higher paying orders than someone driving a dam scooter or Tesla, IMO.
Pssst! Don’t you think it’s safer to organize your packages on the warehouses property? I used to pull over down the street or go to a gas station to organize a packages, I always got a lot of looks. And felt uneasy. I feel like it’s probably a risk and a robbery waiting to happen.
Flex is not worth it tbh, the pandora's box of mystery for routes is way too much of a hassle to determine whether or not you'll be spawning today either close or far, then the number of packages, along with what are you dealing with, because christ I can't stand apartments in Downtown areas, they're the worst!
I think it’s dumb how customers aren’t allowed to go get their package and save a little extra. Businesses are losing to amazon because they don’t have and don’t allow new products to be sold.
Dude from the time i hit start on that app i count those miles, I'm been tracked on that app, using the map. I count those mile to the warehouse.
I just registered with Flex and saw a 3 hrs block (4:30am - 7:30am). Does amazon deliver this early? anyone here took this early block before?
They do. I've done 3am-8am
I always scan the packages to right then the stop #. Plus in the warehouse that I go you just go in scan ur license and look for your cart. So we don’t wait for anyone
4 hours for 28 packages??? I do about 30pkgs/hr. What happens when you finish with 3 hours left?
Bro, you have the best videos on driver apps
so we will not know the route until we get there and scan. So what if the delivery address is more than 1 hour drive? how can we delivery on time?
$72 for 4 hours and 28 deliveries? $18-$20 an hour and you can be stuck driving nearly an hour away for one package? Yea, no thanks.I just made $53 driving UE for 2hr 14min and drove 26 miles total. Cool video though.
Not to knock anyone who does this. But your better off doing uber as a side hustle. Work for yourself. Only take the rides u want. And u get anywhere from 18-45 an hour. Ive made around $130 in 4 hours
Thanks. How about sketchy neighborhoods with high crime rates etc. ? Will you be assigned those even though you choose a Warehouse far away ?
9 yrs is rnough for me driving for all apps! Uber x, uber eats, doordash, grub hub, amazon flex, lyft, i did them all and all ended bad.
If you have for example a 4 hour shift. Do they pay you extra for example if it takes you 5 hours to complete your shift? Not because your a slow bad driver, but maybe because of horrible traffic slowing you down or bad weather?
If I remember, I do not think you get paid for that hour, you only get paid for that schedule
na i still think the best way to organize is with the yellow sticker
I don't like on how many hours we can work we are self contractor we should be able to work as much as we want and we are typically aloud to do 8hrs shift, they just need to let us work more like doordash do because we are technically not Amazon employees and we should not have to fallow 8hrs drive time like Amazon driver's do. Also we are not allowed to work 7 days a week nether so be careful on what days you want to do flex if some of your other gigs pay better on specific day's
Amazon dsp drivers can technically drive for 11 hours. I typically am driving around 9.25 hours on a busy day as a dsp driver.
$20 an hour gross profit is garbage brother, sad that people are okay with this little pay
I made 25 today in Doordash cherry picking my routes today and I didn't even drive that far from my house with 1 hour of work
Yeah that’s actually really bad
We put so much importance on money people forget to just live. Some people can live without money. Your opinion is just that. Dont knock something unless your looking to do
Something about it
I've learned to be thankful for a job, period
Do you tell your car insurance company that you use your car to do flex in? Just curious. Wondering if it’s necessary or not.
Never tell them scammers anything
Trying working for a dsp, you'll be having to deliver over 300 packages with in 10 hours
I love having a Frunk with my Tesla, it makes sorting deliveries so much easier
I’ve been doing Amazon Flex for over a year now, and I wait until the hourly rates are bare minimum 20 bucks an hour before I accept a route. If other desperate people take them before then, I just do Uber and Lyft then.
Why can't you get a real job?
I put the first 5-7 in front seat. Anything agter that up until like 20 input in back seat. 20 amd up in trunk. If I have 40 packages then ill do up to maybe 25 in the back seat
$72 is crazy low, here in Upstate NY base is $25 hr
If you’re driving 4 hours that’s about half or or more of your gas waste. And gas is around 40 to 50$ for full. You’re not getting much and considering putting all the miles u put on your car
🔥 thank you for the info!
For me I found if I can get early AM batch that pays well with Flex then do other apps. My area 3am 4am ish batches the roads are clear they don't give you many if at all the places you need special access and not as hot out. I try to get the $26hr to $38hr+ batches, hard part for me has been getting constant times am wise even if its not high pay its at least $21 ish just hard to get every day. Way I see it is do this first then the others as most the others are not active and or don't offer good amounts. After doing flex you have rest the day to hit 300+
Mileage will kill your car
Looking for cash flow. I’m unsure if the flex makes sense.
I used to be an UberEats driver and I delivered a couple of Walmart packages. As I was unaware it was probably tied to Walmart Spark app.
Do you think that WalMart Sparks mirrors Amazon Flex Delivery Service?
I’ve worked for Amazon as well, honestly it’s a chill gig but they are underpaid for sure. I always finish 3-4 hours earlier than everyone, I’m just trynna go home lol.
I rescue no one & for the organizing part I dump a full bag in the front, boxes on the ground and envelopes on the passenger seat. Easiest way to grab and go.
Did you work in the warehouse ? My friend gets 22.50 an hour
@@wellnesscanceradvocate8564 nah I heard bad things about their warehouses, I only drove.
$72 for the shift. How much gas did you use? Taxes taken out?
$72 for 4hours is not worth it. Ur using ur gas also. I say $30 a hour would be fair so u can have ur profit and you’re using your vehicle wear and tear.
I live in Vancouver and I just got a large van, how can I work with my car at Amazon Flex?
5000 mah battery is a must otherwise you struggle with phone almost dying
It's not about organizing your packages. Everybody will figure that out in a week. The bottom line is $$$$$ and each market is different.
And then comes vehicle maintenance and there goes all the $. So it doesn’t quite make sense.
Just wondering, don't the the packages come to you in groups? It sounds like they are just all thrown together. When I delivered for Amazon we organized everything by the number sticker so why not do it that way?
pro tip if it says your outside the radius put your phone into airplane mode.
This might work well in usa where people are happy for some reason to have their packages left in their doorsteps. People in uk wouldn't stand for that. So deliveries in uk would take longer.
Dude you're kidding me it takes you 4 hours to deliver 40 stops? I have those 40 stops done in an hour on my routes.. I usually do 190 stops in 5-6 hours
Nice work 😎
Mine are labeled by number on the little colored stickers. Starting at the 1st stop being #1
If you switch to a DSP most dsps offer you guaranteed 10-hour days. That's 180 before taxes. No wear and tear on your car either.
yup and over 300 packages lol
@@yuribatista5622Right, who the hell wants all those packages😭
@@kurosakikun9751lmaooo
What if a driver are unable to deliver all packages?
Thank you so much
Great video
I think like most things you have to put in the work.Realize this is starting pay for newbs.
Wouldn't be easier to put everything in the car instead of trunk?
Thanks man
I did it one time probably never gonna do it again
@@free2beme375 just try it out. for me it wasn't worth the headache and gas prices in az were like 6 bucks a gallon at the time and they had me going all over the place to random neighborhoods so it wasn't like i was just dropping packages in a one area i would take one package to a gated community and pray i could get in. most of the time i was guessing the code 1978 which is a popular one, but i think that is just an az problem where half the neighborhoods are gated. So at the end of the day i wasn't making enough for it to be worth it. not to mention how hard it is to get a block. you have to sit and press refresh over and over and whoever pressed it first gets the block. they say after a certain time you get a reserved block for the area you want but that is a lie. i would have to drive to a warehouse 30 miles from my house and then they would send me another 30 miles further away from home. if you live in a big capitol city it would be more viable, but questionably not worth the headache still.. a lot of stuff will be labeled wrong so you will be searching for an envelope when it turns out to be a box. anyways if you need some cash right now i would give it a try it could be a fun adventure/learning experience while you look for something better. the one plus i would say is that you have the freedom to sort of pick your shift. and you could do an early shift and a later shift to make some extra money. but getting that second shift is not easy i wasn't able to always get the 2nd shift as it will be limited to a 3 hour block and you'll; have to be refreshing a million times throughout the day.. i said i did it once actually i ended up doing it for like 3 months you end up running your car into the ground and not making enough to fix it or get a new one so i see it as a dead end. this is just my opinion an experience. maybe it would be different for someone else.
I did my first Amazon Shift today, I ran a little bit over because I didn’t know how to organize my stops
Was it worth it?
Yes. I now have 3 deliveries under my belt. Last weekend I did 2 deliveries and made $200.00.@@maverickharrell9061