Spock allows Lt. Saavik to pilot Enterprise out of spacedock much to the dismay of Kirk and McCoy. This is one of my favorite scenes from The Wrath of Khan.
It's funny, since ST2 I've seen several movies where the music sounded familiar, and I looked it up and it was James Horner. He has a distinctive Style
Proper Star Trek movies are when they spent 10 minutes or so just showing the Enterprise slowly moving out of dock whilst music is playing. Modern Trek movies would have an entire battle filled with hundreds of aliens shooting at each other crammed into that same amount of time. Sometimes slower is better, and less is more.
We had better imaginations in the late 1900s compared to my kids today, they have no attention span for these sort of things being raised on different media
One of the particular things that I love about the bridge scene is how real they made everything feel and the professionalism that's given here. Listening to all the background voices and mannerisms that's being given before leaving space dock. Very well executed and very believable. I can't think of any other movie or episode in the entire franchise that's topped this performance or could for that matter. This crew has really set the bar here.
Another small detail I noticed was the trainee working the helm with Sulu was very animated; his head turning this way and that as he worked, showing his inexperience by not knowing / being sure where everything was. Sulu, on the other hand, was much calmer and barely glances down as he instinctively knows where everything is.
I grew up with TNG and later but have to admit you're spot on and it's beautiful, Enterprise-D bridge seems like a lounge/living room at times, as did Voyager. I think DS9 did it quite well in Ops but still not as flawless as here to give the feel of really being there.
Such beautiful tranquil moments missing today. Spock's glances as Kirk and then Savik's glance to Kirk as well, WITHOUT SHOWING a cut-away to Kirk's face. Nowadays, the director would cut to Kirk's face which is a condescending way to make sure the audience knows who they're staring at. This way here gives it more impact: They're aware of his presence and power as the highest-ranking officer on deck and a legend, and they're dancing around him with reactions to their own character arc. (Spock is an old friend and having some fun at Kirk's expense/ Savik is nervous and doesn't want to screw up in front of the principal). By not doing a cut-away to Kirk, we're actually more aware of him being there and it adds to the character and tension. It's subtle and adds much... and I'm seeing less and less of it sadly.
I like how the interior. ( and i know it was 80's tech) but.i liked the darkness of the bridge and saucer section interior. Kind of like some submarine type sh×t.
@@bundesautobahn7 it is the best looking out of ALL the federation crafts....especially JJ ABRAMS SHIPS. THE INSIDES DONT CO INSIDE WITH THE OUTSIDE. ESPECIALLY. THE SCENES ON INTO DARKNESS...WHEN THE DIFFRENT LEVELS LOOKED LIKE A SHOPPING MALL. AND I THE SHAPE WAS OVAL..INSTEAD OF ROUND.
She would've been in other Star Trek movies if She hadn't been Greedy. Thinking She was Just as important as Regular TOS from Earlier movies/ main Enterprise crew.
@@andynieuwenhuis7833 She thanked her agent big time for getting her the Saavik role. Same agent told her to turn down the next offer...$100k less and 30% more lines. When she finally appeared at a convention, she hoped no one held a grudge against her for listening to her agent. When Leonard Nimoy took over the next one, he said "she was extremely well paid for the first film...but her agent wasn't able to see the long term value of being a Trek castmember" You have to remember that the current cast of Trek fought, scratched and starved their way into getting whatever role they could manage. Ms Alley on the other hand moved from Topeka, appeared in 4 game shows and got one low budget movie role (with Marina Sirtis) in 7 months prior to being on ST2. It's was a matter of perspective.
Whats amazing listen to the background voices, they are going through a pre-flight inspection while Kirk and spock are talking. THAT is attention to detail that has been lacking in other star trek movies. That attention to detail and naval realism gave ST II a sense of realism that many SCI-FI films sorely lack.
The pre-launch background dialogue overheard on the bridge as Kirk and McCoy arrive is almost identical to the checklist overheard in main engineering before the Enterprise launches in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
No1sonuk Enterprise is still Kirks baby. He has all the faith in the world when it comes to Sulu. Not much anyone else in 'his' chair, though. Aside from Spock.
Given how Kirk micromanages Sulu in TOS, maybe he thinks Sulu _will_ crash the ship if she gives the wrong commands. (If you want an example of said micromanaging, see 'Arena' where despite being under fire planet-side, Kirk insists on personally running the simultaneous space battle by communicator, giving Sulu such insightful commands as 'fire phasers'.)
Spock's like "finally, I get to scare the hell out of Jim for once, like he always scares the hell out of the rest of the crew". His decision definitely had an emotional basis to it, even if he could give a logical reason for making it.
As a captain who has pulled such stunts before, throwing a greenhorn the reins in a training situation is great experience. She’s being overseen by a superior officer. In addition he can put her in a perceived pressure situation in front of the admiral without actually having any real consequences for her screwing things up ->good command experience, and a good Captain should want his or her staff to be able to function well under pressure situation in their absence. He lets Sulu plot the course himself too which kind of flys under the radar, not that Sulu is under pressure or a greenhorn, but it highlights how un impactful the training flight is and how the command isn’t there to watch a certain course being plotted, command is there to watch how the operation is performed and how the staff react.
@@drewski5730 I know he had a logical reason for letting her have the conn as they left dock. Enterprise at this point is a training ship. She was in command training. Logical to train her on the training ship. That's not entirely why Spock did it though. His eyebrow raise wasn't just realizing "hey, I should let the trainee do this so she learns". The glance towards Kirk and Bones before he gave her the order to take them out gave his true... "feelings"... away. He let her do it at least partly to mess with Jim. He even gave the slightest, and I do mean barely noticeable tiniest muscle twitch of a smirk while glancing at Kirk.
@@brch2 EXACTLY. Seems like Spock was doin' everything he could and then some to *NOT* go full emotional and cheese like the Joker when he told Saavik to "take her out".
I get that it is supposed to be a funny moment, but it always bugged me a little that she isn't really piloting the Enterprise, she is commanding it. I think if she suddenly said "Warp Speed" in Spacedock that Sulu is not going to just say "rodger dokie" and fly the Enterprise into a wall or something.
Oh you can bet on that. The way he looked at Kirk before turning over command. But I really don’t understand what the big deal was/ she just said do it. It was Sulu who did all the work.
The command of one quarter impulse power was key here. It was apparently something Kirk always did to irritate Starfleet because regulations required thrusters only. Spock probably worked it out with Saavik earlier just to give him a taste of his own medicine. Kirk would then later return the favor in Star Trek 6.
@@lightharbormusic I’m glad someone else caught that. Kirk loved to mess with the controllers. But the fact that Savak called for impulse is interesting. She is so by the book. I wonder if it wasn’t an oversights by the writers?
@@pauldavis9387 It's a question of legal responsibility to the ship. If the Helmsman (Sulu in this case) dinged the ship, he'd be in trouble, but whoever was at the Conn (Saavik) would be legally liable as the commanding officer. It true in real life navies and presumably true for Starfleet. If she had smashed another ship or the inside of spacedock basically drag-racing the equivalent of a nuclear-powered carrier, she could be cashiered, or posted to a subspace relay platform at the ass-end of nowhere for the rest of her very long life. Kirk got away with a "cowboy" command style because he always made it work somehow in the end, or he had people like Pike to cover for him early on.
This is the harbinger of doom... it is a final look at the grandeur of the NCC-1701 - the last time we will see her whole - her voyage nearing its end. After this she is a battle scarred "wreck" - her majesty marred by battle with Reliant - and her inevitable demise soon to follow. I do love the theft in Star Trek III - it too is a great scene - even with the ridiculous way in which Excelsior is disabled and the campy "backfire" noises. The ship was always an additional character on the show - no credits - just badassdom.
The backfire noises was a bit much but Scotty being the engineer he was pulling out just the right chips so the excelsior couldn't get warp speed is believable. He didn't like some of the changes on the excelsior.
The TOS have a wonderful charm about them. They also have some of the best themes played to simply the USS Enterprise leaving spacedock, giving the sense that the Enterprise leaving spacedock is a ceremonious event which desires your awe. I feel like the music is responsible 75% of this 'effect' Also, lol when McCoy asks if Kirk would like tranquilizer.
I wonder how many people haven't appreciated just how rare of an opportunity Sulu was given. How often does a Helmsman, on *any* ship, have such a chance when the vast majority of the time all they can do is take the ship where they are *ordered* to take it? Being given a free hand on the reigns of the horse (so to speak) is not "normal' or "common" by any stretch.
@@MidnightDStroyer I don't think such a thing exists at all. Even the captains of our navies go where the generals back at HQ tell them to go. So, you're definitely right.
I love Scotty's smile when Kirk does the "dust check". He knows that Kirk doesn't want to do the inspection and that he isn't going to find anything (especially dust), but Kirk had to make like it's a serious business. If it had been any other admiral, Scotty wouldn't have smiled, because he wouldn't know the person as well as he knows Kirk.
It's easy to forget these days just how hot Kirstie Alley was back in the day. Plus, if they had listened to her character, this would have been a short movie and Khan would have had a bad time lol.
It's 50/50 - a film about Intelligence vs Wisdom, Saavik was right in her knowledge of regulations about raising shields when approaching the Reliant, but then later in the film its Kirk's experience as a commander that bests Khan Khan and Saavik are in the same boat when Spock says "He's intelligent, but not experienced" - to me that's the whole point of the film anyway
JAMES HORNER RIP - This scene would have been a total TMP recycle if not for Horner's AMAZING score. Well, and the awesome uniforms too. I love the red wraparound-tunics in these movies.
A really excellent scene that breathes life into familiar visuals, especially the overwhelming excitement of Captain Kirk and the deadpan offer of a tranquilizer by Dr. McKoy.
In the extended version of Star Trek II,Admiral Kirk is having a chat with 1 of the engineer trainees,who was being very bold. That trainee was Scotty's nephew.
Never gets old. Saw this in the theater when i was a LOT younger. It's been here on You tube for 13 yrs... still, I'll watch it. Leaving dry dock. It was such a treat to see our beloved Enterprise as she should be, could be, the way I always imagined her... It was like watching a queen who always had to wear work clothes and costume jewelry, her entire life, suddenly walk through the door wearing silk, diamonds and a handsome crown. Science fiction at its best.
Star Trek II still my all time favorite Star Trek movie. I remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the theater twice to watch it as a kid. This scene with the awesome score, with the crew making all the quiet preparations like a true professional StarFleet crew - simply awesome. They need to bring back subtle details like that in modern sci-fi.
Such an amazing moment as the Enterprise's running lights are coming on, and her engines come to life. Hard to believe it was over 40 years ago I was watching this moment in a theater in awe of the massive ship moving out of dock. Still gives me chills. Wish they would show old movies like this in theaters.
Independent theatres usually show classics. I saw blade runner that way and that movie is older than i am. I saw the movie a million times but in the a theatre was a new experience for me
Best part of this scene is Kirk nearly having a panic attack when Saavik takes the chair. "want a tranquilizer?" asks McCoy, followed by some brilliant facial ticks by Shatner, ROFL.
The good Doctor certainly knows his "patient," doesn't he? Such a high level of adrenaline & endorphins that must be surging through Kirk's bloodstream right then...
+JediNg135 Yep, Kirk wanted to skip the inspection and see his former ship get into action, even if it's just a trip around the solar system. Spock was a cool captain. The writers should have had shown him in command of his own ship at the end of Star Trek VI or at the beginning of Star Trek Generations. What could have been.
Spock said in Movie II, that although he is a good educator and commander, he don't feel like he is able to be a good captain, as he couldn't attach emotionally with his crew. That's one of the reasons, why the Vulcan commanded ships are run 100% by Vulcans, they understand this, but humans wouldn't. And well, he already was working on his new career as a diplomat in and after movie 5, because he has decided to retire from Star Fleet together with the rest of the crew, although he would be only 67 years old then (just to compare: T'Pol of Star Trek was OLDER when she became second in Command in Enterprise, 66 is not a huge age for a species that can reach 250 years of age.) He didn't plan to command after the happenings of the trilogy. (What's interesting of Star Trek is, that ST is in a way the history of Spock (or better said told by Spock), he is the only character who has been from the first pilot until 2389 in duty (as he was after Nemesis the embassador on Romulus again) and even in the newest movie. The only series where no Spock was living was Enterprise :D
McCoy actually asks if he wants Saavik tranquilized if you listen closely lol bust still th elook son both McCoy and Kirks face when Spock lets Saavik take the ship out is a corker, ha ha, leeting these young cadets be in charge of the ship he has commanded for so many years
Star Trek then: They had to out think a genetically superior human hell bent on revenge. Star Trek Now: They beat the aliens by playing "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys
Star Trek Beyond was phenomenal and having Captain Kirk save the day with the Beastie Boys was a super fun spin on the classic Star Trek trope of having to find the right signal frequency to talk to the aliens.
They still had to come up with that totally off the wall idea. The JJ movies are cheap entertainment for sure, but they’re still good movies. They’re just in a different category.
For those that were wondering why Kirk was suddenly shaky when Saavik piloted the Enterprise out of the dock. This was a connecting parallel to the hazards of ocean going naval and merchant ships leaving a port or dry dock. In many ports around the world there are often tight clearances, sharp turns to make, and other vessels nearby so the chances of collisions are greater in a port or dock than out in open sea. Some of you have likely seen the TH-cam videos of ships, within a port or harbor, accidentally ramming docks, tugboats, other ships, or causing other small vessels to capsize as they attempt to leave or come in to dock. Here, even though all Saavik is doing is having Sulu move forward, notice that this space dock has little room on either side of the Enterprise.
+ACLTony Many ports actually send out personnel (harbor pilots) that take command of the ship just for this reason. They are paid very well. Great comment.
+ColSandersLives Thanks! I noticed some of the comments that indicated that some didn't understand why Kirk suddenly got a bit nervous. Big Ship + Narrow Dock + Rookie Pilot = STRESS!, lol.
I will never ever forget the first time I saw this movie and this part. I was in Junior High(Middle) school in 1982. This sequence went through my head almost every hour of every day. I remember shaking in my seat while watching this movie. It still stands as the most exciting movie I had ever seen in my childhood. I'm a fan for life. Even at the age of 43. :)
+jmtnvalley Freaked no. More like anxious. The enterprise is his baby. I'd imagine he doesn't trust anybody with it. Even if its just commanding the ship out of spacedock
@@deltaray3 Because it´s a SHIP with the common specific SHIP-Chain-of-command: Captain gives the orders to the First Officer, who then passes the orders to the (bridge)Crew accordingly and in this case the order was pointed to the HELMSMAN, which is Mr Sulu. That is how it has been done for centuries in REAL life and that´s how it´s done (correctly) in Star Trek. Helmsman is NOT a captain despite he is the supposedly "driving". Helmsman MAY become an "acting" captain only by a given order directly from the Highest Rank Officer on the ship, or in case ALL the other Officers of Higher Rank than the Helmsman himself are DEAD or INCAPABLE of performing their duty.
The JJ Abrams movie had glitz and special effects. Pine and Quinto and Urban were good but there's just no comparison to the original thing. It's too bad that he strayed so far from the canon.
Raymond Conlon The problem is they didn't even stay consistent or make sense to the in-universe rules established by the writers. This parallel universe was supposed to be created by the branching off of timelines due to Nero's arrival in the past....but even before those changes, there are marked differences between the stories background information. JJ Abrams basically just created an action movie with some basic words thrown in like "warp drive" and "phasers" and didn't care how it worked as long as there was flashy lights and lots of mindless action. Which, if you take it merely on the context of being a popcorn action flick, it works well enough. But as Star Trek, in any form? No....it's not. And it never will be.
compmanio36 The divergent point isn't Nero's emergence from the black hole, it's as far back as Edith Keeler. Since the Enterprise will not have the same time-travel adventures vs seen in the original series/films, so to will future Starfleet crews have alternate adventures, which will affect the past.
Raymond Conlon Huh, I hadn't heard that.....is that info they put into the comic or whatever it was that was supposed to fill in the backstory? How could situations that far back be affected when Nero didn't arrive until centuries later?
compmanio36 Well, just consider: how can the time-travel adventures of the Kirk Enterprise, Picard Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Voyager etc occur as we saw them in the Prime timeline following Nero's incursion's? Whether or not they were part of established history or not, they no longer happen now. Soon as that black hole formed in the past, the timeline - past and future - was completely different. Sort of like in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to some extent. It's a bit difficult to wrap your head around, but it explains why Starfleet is so different (USS Kelvin).
+drlee2 Yes, you're right! Neat thing about Spock is that he often affirms his Vulcan way of thinking and mannerisms, yet from time to time he will pull off a sneaky "fast one" on his friends without missing a Vulcan beat.
The Vulcan humor is, as we have learned in Enterprise, a more subtle one, they like the unexspected, not 100% logical, as it's contradicts their typical experience. And nobody says, that Vulcans don't understand emotions (they have Pon Farr, never to forget), they just don't use them for decision making.
Near the end of this scene is when the woman seated ahead of me in the theatre leaned over to her husband and said "This is really good." She also was of course in tears when Spock died. The theatre (Shady Oak in Clayton, Missouri) was PACKED. Everyone loved it.
Kirstie Alley played Saavik well. Starting to see where her line of in Look Who's talking Too when she says "No, But I'm a Vulcan." is starting to make sense. For context, I saw that before Star Trek in the early 90s.
hatchbx He did, Jerry Goldsmith's score in the motion picture was amazing, I find some of James Horners work great but he does recycle is work far to often
Marvellous though this new Enterprise departure from Space Dock is, the real departure of old Ark Royal from Plymouth gets my vote for first place. th-cam.com/video/GAgV57KW1_0/w-d-xo.html
The takeaway from this scene is Spock has a sense of humour...he knows it is stressing out Kirk and McCoy Savik taking out the Enterprise (Sulu is at the helm so it is an odd concern) but he can hide behind his Vulcan logic for the shits n giggles! Love this scene!
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2:10 Kirk just shaked his head made me laugh 😂 I seen this part when I was a kid I did that before but when I was older now I saw when he smiled since along time ago 😂😂😂
I LOVE when Spocks eyebrow goes up he is going to do something. LOL The look of HORROR on Kirks face is priceless! Star Trek 2 will always be the best of the Trek movies and a top five greatest sci fi movies of all time.
NCC - The art director Matt Jefferies thought of it. It's based on 20th century aircraft registration code. (N used to mean registered to the USA, C stands for civil aircraft. Also because NC was for US crafts and CC CC was for Soviet Crafts, they combined the two.) Also apparently lot of star trek novels and documents say that NCC stands for "Naval Construction Contract". 1701 - 17 stands for the 17th cruiser design and 01 is the serial number.
The attention to detail in this sequence is amazing. The dock working waving as the ship pulls out....the background chatter of the pre-launch checklist. The new ST movies could learn a little from this....
This scene shows the togetherness of the bridge crew and the ship as well as she leads them out for the next big adventure into space. I first seen this movie back in 1982 . To this day, The wrath of Khan is still the best ST movie.
Mister is the correct naval term for a midshipman. generally, in the forces, you address the rank and not the person and the ranks are genderless. most senior female officers are referred to as "Sir". there are some that insist on being called "Ma'am" or something like that but very rarely especially in the British forces as the term "Ma'am" is used by the Queen (Ma'am rhyming with jam and NOT harm).
@@chipsnow6514 Vulcan's Heart. Spock must've decided-after he was pissed off by Valeris-that he actually preferred Saavik and she him. They disagreed in this story about getting together with the Romulans, but otherwise cared very much for each other.
@@g00gleminus96 wrong the novels say it. David made a comment he thought Saavic was Spocks daughter and she replied if she thought he meant it she would kill him, Romulans mated with Vulcans to humiliate them and her Vulcan parent is almost certainly dead
I like the notion that leaving port is an ordeal, like a naval ship. I doubt Starfleet calls sea-&-anchor details but the idea that the crew has to actively do things to take a ship out of port adds realism. RIP, Kirstie!
I really enjoyed the brief moments we see Spock in the chair it really seems like he's more confident & logically giving orders to Sulu without having to give up the seat to Kirk. This is his ship now.
They dealt with this in The Undiscovered Country when the new Vulcan at the helm quoting regulations regarding maneuvering thrusters only in space station. However, I agree that impulse power would been quite a kick start.
@@seanwebb605 Yawn. They went straight and didn't have a door or any traffic in front of them. Don't assume that the regulation for a space dock is the same for a space station.
Spock: Lt. have you ever piloted a ship out of spacedock? Savik: No Spock: There is a first time for everything. Take her out. Savik: Sulu, pilot the ship out of spacedock.
Spock has confidence in young Lt. Saavik. He rescued her and taught her much before she even went to Starfleet. He will continue to teach her on the ship and as long as he can.
At times in this sequence you can see that Kirk is actually quite pleased with the Cadets. The way Saavik handled the big chair, actually brought a bit of smile to the Admiral's face. Though, I know that part of him was wishing he was sitting in the chair.
Over thirty years later, James Horner's amazing score still gets me.
It still gives me a thrill after all of these decades.
Who is James Homer? And in what did he get his _amazing_ score?
@@kellyrayburn4093 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Horner
It's funny, since ST2 I've seen several movies where the music sounded familiar, and I looked it up and it was James Horner. He has a distinctive Style
James Horner also did a great job with "Apollo 13", "Titanic", and "Avatar"!
"Mr. Sulu, you may... Indulge yourself."
That line always puts the biggest grin on my face.
I believe he went a grabbed Kirks crotch after the order was given.
Ooh Mmyyyyyyyy
"Not in front of everyone, Mr. Sulu!......"
Oh no. Here comes the Mr. SULU jokes...😂
Proper Star Trek movies are when they spent 10 minutes or so just showing the Enterprise slowly moving out of dock whilst music is playing. Modern Trek movies would have an entire battle filled with hundreds of aliens shooting at each other crammed into that same amount of time. Sometimes slower is better, and less is more.
That's because modern Star Trek is trying to out star wars Star Wars.
Ironically I enjoy the new Star Trek movies over the new Star Wars movies :P
A time to breathe and enjoy the majesty of the old girl.
We had better imaginations in the late 1900s compared to my kids today, they have no attention span for these sort of things being raised on different media
I 100% agree
One of the particular things that I love about the bridge scene is how real they made everything feel and the professionalism that's given here. Listening to all the background voices and mannerisms that's being given before leaving space dock. Very well executed and very believable. I can't think of any other movie or episode in the entire franchise that's topped this performance or could for that matter. This crew has really set the bar here.
Most of them were cadets working in front of an admiral and a legend in his own right!
...and that James Horner score just makes the scene.
mannerisms
Another small detail I noticed was the trainee working the helm with Sulu was very animated; his head turning this way and that as he worked, showing his inexperience by not knowing / being sure where everything was. Sulu, on the other hand, was much calmer and barely glances down as he instinctively knows where everything is.
I grew up with TNG and later but have to admit you're spot on and it's beautiful, Enterprise-D bridge seems like a lounge/living room at times, as did Voyager. I think DS9 did it quite well in Ops but still not as flawless as here to give the feel of really being there.
Ah yes, NCC 1701, no bloody A, B, C or D
Jon Ledbetter or E for that matter!
Or Jonny Archer's NX-01!
or Captain Shons F!
Soon to be blown up
Did you like seeing the Enterprise NCC-1701 being refitted?
this scene is proof that spock has a sense of humor, albeit a very subtle one.
Sulu even mentioned it to Tuvok in the Voyager Episode "Flashback"
A sense of humor as well as a desire to challenge and develop his protege.
I like to think he does it as a confidence-booster for Saavik, too. We see her performance in the simulator and that would rattle anyone.
Vulcans have intense and very powerful emotions. They use logic as the basis of mental disipline to not act on their emotions / feelings.
Actually in this scene Spock was doing his job as a teacher,of course at Kirk's expense.
Such beautiful tranquil moments missing today. Spock's glances as Kirk and then Savik's glance to Kirk as well, WITHOUT SHOWING a cut-away to Kirk's face. Nowadays, the director would cut to Kirk's face which is a condescending way to make sure the audience knows who they're staring at. This way here gives it more impact: They're aware of his presence and power as the highest-ranking officer on deck and a legend, and they're dancing around him with reactions to their own character arc. (Spock is an old friend and having some fun at Kirk's expense/ Savik is nervous and doesn't want to screw up in front of the principal). By not doing a cut-away to Kirk, we're actually more aware of him being there and it adds to the character and tension.
It's subtle and adds much... and I'm seeing less and less of it sadly.
Well said.That sense of naval chain of command is awesome.
That's always been my favorite part of this. Spock's little troll and Savik just like...don't bring me into this, lol.
Inside and out, this is still the best looking ship in all of Star Trek.
Yeah caddy..and the most realistic. But paramount was some cheap bastards to use S.T. ONE FOOTAGE FOR PART TWO.
I like how the interior. ( and i know it was 80's tech) but.i liked the darkness of the bridge and saucer section interior. Kind of like some submarine type sh×t.
I love the refit Enterprise.
@@bundesautobahn7 it is the best looking out of ALL the federation crafts....especially JJ ABRAMS SHIPS. THE INSIDES DONT CO INSIDE WITH THE OUTSIDE. ESPECIALLY. THE SCENES ON INTO DARKNESS...WHEN THE DIFFRENT LEVELS LOOKED LIKE A SHOPPING MALL. AND I THE SHAPE WAS OVAL..INSTEAD OF ROUND.
Amen 🙏
Lt. Saavik portrayed so well by Kirstie Alley, leading the graceful ship out of spacedock gracefully.
R.I.P. Kirstie
She waaas a hottie!
I guess she hadn't read the starfleet regulations about the use of thrusters only while in spacedock
She would've been in other Star Trek movies if She hadn't been Greedy. Thinking She was Just as important as Regular TOS from Earlier movies/ main Enterprise crew.
@@andynieuwenhuis7833 She thanked her agent big time for getting her the Saavik role. Same agent told her to turn down the next offer...$100k less and 30% more lines. When she finally appeared at a convention, she hoped no one held a grudge against her for listening to her agent. When Leonard Nimoy took over the next one, he said "she was extremely well paid for the first film...but her agent wasn't able to see the long term value of being a Trek castmember" You have to remember that the current cast of Trek fought, scratched and starved their way into getting whatever role they could manage. Ms Alley on the other hand moved from Topeka, appeared in 4 game shows and got one low budget movie role (with Marina Sirtis) in 7 months prior to being on ST2. It's was a matter of perspective.
Whats amazing listen to the background voices, they are going through a pre-flight inspection while Kirk and spock are talking. THAT is attention to detail that has been lacking in other star trek movies. That attention to detail and naval realism gave ST II a sense of realism that many SCI-FI films sorely lack.
That background chatter is really missed in Discovery.
The pre-launch background dialogue overheard on the bridge as Kirk and McCoy arrive is almost identical to the checklist overheard in main engineering before the Enterprise launches in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Background chatter seemed to disappear by the time of TNG. Too bad..it gave a sense of how many departments/sections were on these ships.
They do have it in one or two of the Enterprise D docking sequences - and in Ten-Forward
Didn't know that.Have to check it out.On TOS though,they probably had background chatter even in the bathroom stalls.
I can see it in Kirk's face as he silently chants to himself: Don't break the ship....don't break the ship...don't break the ship. She's my baby!
Most stupid reaction ever - Sulu's the one driving - he's not going to crash it if she gives the wrong commands.
No1sonuk Enterprise is still Kirks baby. He has all the faith in the world when it comes to Sulu. Not much anyone else in 'his' chair, though. Aside from Spock.
No1sonuk You are totally right of course but thematically it is a nice touch
Given how Kirk micromanages Sulu in TOS, maybe he thinks Sulu _will_ crash the ship if she gives the wrong commands.
(If you want an example of said micromanaging, see 'Arena' where despite being under fire planet-side, Kirk insists on personally running the simultaneous space battle by communicator, giving Sulu such insightful commands as 'fire phasers'.)
Jon Harper i can see it in mr scotts face too dont break me ship captain she's my baby
Spock's like "finally, I get to scare the hell out of Jim for once, like he always scares the hell out of the rest of the crew". His decision definitely had an emotional basis to it, even if he could give a logical reason for making it.
As a captain who has pulled such stunts before, throwing a greenhorn the reins in a training situation is great experience. She’s being overseen by a superior officer. In addition he can put her in a perceived pressure situation in front of the admiral without actually having any real consequences for her screwing things up ->good command experience, and a good Captain should want his or her staff to be able to function well under pressure situation in their absence. He lets Sulu plot the course himself too which kind of flys under the radar, not that Sulu is under pressure or a greenhorn, but it highlights how un impactful the training flight is and how the command isn’t there to watch a certain course being plotted, command is there to watch how the operation is performed and how the staff react.
@@drewski5730 I know he had a logical reason for letting her have the conn as they left dock. Enterprise at this point is a training ship. She was in command training. Logical to train her on the training ship.
That's not entirely why Spock did it though. His eyebrow raise wasn't just realizing "hey, I should let the trainee do this so she learns". The glance towards Kirk and Bones before he gave her the order to take them out gave his true... "feelings"... away. He let her do it at least partly to mess with Jim. He even gave the slightest, and I do mean barely noticeable tiniest muscle twitch of a smirk while glancing at Kirk.
@@brch2 EXACTLY. Seems like Spock was doin' everything he could and then some to *NOT* go full emotional and cheese like the Joker when he told Saavik to "take her out".
McCoy's expression when Spock has Savik take the Enterprise out is priceless, as is his line to Kirk "Would you like a tranquilizer?"
I am missing this kind of subtle humour in todays Star Trek movies.
1:57 their faces are like "God help us all".
womenz drivers amirite?!?!
@@stevealikonis9467 I think just that she'd never piloted a ship out of space dock before.
I get that it is supposed to be a funny moment, but it always bugged me a little that she isn't really piloting the Enterprise, she is commanding it. I think if she suddenly said "Warp Speed" in Spacedock that Sulu is not going to just say "rodger dokie" and fly the Enterprise into a wall or something.
A proper Star Trek movie, unlike the reboots. RIP Kirstie Alley as Lt. Saavik.
And to the day I die, I will say and believe that Spock had Saavik command the exit for no other reason than to mess with Kirk.
Such action would not be logical.
But there are limits to all things.
Oh you can bet on that. The way he looked at Kirk before turning over command. But I really don’t understand what the big deal was/ she just said do it. It was Sulu who did all the work.
The command of one quarter impulse power was key here. It was apparently something Kirk always did to irritate Starfleet because regulations required thrusters only. Spock probably worked it out with Saavik earlier just to give him a taste of his own medicine. Kirk would then later return the favor in Star Trek 6.
@@lightharbormusic I’m glad someone else caught that. Kirk loved to mess with the controllers. But the fact that Savak called for impulse is interesting. She is so by the book. I wonder if it wasn’t an oversights by the writers?
@@pauldavis9387 It's a question of legal responsibility to the ship. If the Helmsman (Sulu in this case) dinged the ship, he'd be in trouble, but whoever was at the Conn (Saavik) would be legally liable as the commanding officer. It true in real life navies and presumably true for Starfleet. If she had smashed another ship or the inside of spacedock basically drag-racing the equivalent of a nuclear-powered carrier, she could be cashiered, or posted to a subspace relay platform at the ass-end of nowhere for the rest of her very long life.
Kirk got away with a "cowboy" command style because he always made it work somehow in the end, or he had people like Pike to cover for him early on.
Saavik (Kirstie Ally) ... arguably the prettiest Vulcan in Federation history. Also consider T'pol (Jolene Blalock).
I don't think Cpt. Esteban called Saavik Mr..I don't recall Archer calling T'Pol or Hoshi Mr. either. When did Kirk call Uhura Mr.? .
let's not forget T'Pring 🙂
I agree regarding T’pol since the first episode ☺️
@Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of TH-cam. Romulans are the same species as Vulcans they are only culturally different by about 2000 years.
Don't forget Kim Cattrall in "Star Trek VI".
This is the harbinger of doom... it is a final look at the grandeur of the NCC-1701 - the last time we will see her whole - her voyage nearing its end. After this she is a battle scarred "wreck" - her majesty marred by battle with Reliant - and her inevitable demise soon to follow. I do love the theft in Star Trek III - it too is a great scene - even with the ridiculous way in which Excelsior is disabled and the campy "backfire" noises. The ship was always an additional character on the show - no credits - just badassdom.
ColSandersLives Her credit was always shown during the scenes outside the ship so no credit in either the opening or closing credits is needed.
The backfire noises was a bit much but Scotty being the engineer he was pulling out just the right chips so the excelsior couldn't get warp speed is believable. He didn't like some of the changes on the excelsior.
I'm pretty sure the "backfire" noises were programmed into the ship by Scotty...just to add insult to injury.
I've always felt the same. ENTERPRISE herself was the 8th of the main ToS characters.
As Gene Roddenberry said..."The star of Star Trek is the Enterprise". The crew could be replaced but not the ship.
The TOS have a wonderful charm about them. They also have some of the best themes played to simply the USS Enterprise leaving spacedock, giving the sense that the Enterprise leaving spacedock is a ceremonious event which desires your awe. I feel like the music is responsible 75% of this 'effect' Also, lol when McCoy asks if Kirk would like tranquilizer.
He should have given him a copy of the first ST film that came out. Cure for insomnia, no doubt!
You read my mind exactly on both points, bravo
Tos was and always will be my favorite what a journey it has been
When will Hollywood figure out that they don't need a bunch of random loud explosions and CGI visual overload every 30 seconds to make something epic?
James Horner gone too soon RIP
RIP James Horner. You were what added the majestic feel to this movie. Still can't believe you're gone. Sigh.
Everyone dies. However his musical legacy will live on forever.
Captain Spock: "Mr. Sulu, you may. . .indulge yourself."
Sulu: "Aye, sir." _smiles, thinking,_ "Setting course for Risa, maximum warp!"
Not sure if I would tell George to 'indulge himself'!
XD
I wonder how many people haven't appreciated just how rare of an opportunity Sulu was given. How often does a Helmsman, on *any* ship, have such a chance when the vast majority of the time all they can do is take the ship where they are *ordered* to take it? Being given a free hand on the reigns of the horse (so to speak) is not "normal' or "common" by any stretch.
@@MidnightDStroyer I don't think such a thing exists at all. Even the captains of our navies go where the generals back at HQ tell them to go. So, you're definitely right.
I just realised, shouldn't the navigator (on Sulus right) set the course, not Sulu himself?
This scene still gives me joy, almost 40 years later.
40 years? Omg!
I agree and Thanks. Now I feel old
I love Scotty's smile when Kirk does the "dust check". He knows that Kirk doesn't want to do the inspection and that he isn't going to find anything (especially dust), but Kirk had to make like it's a serious business. If it had been any other admiral, Scotty wouldn't have smiled, because he wouldn't know the person as well as he knows Kirk.
Amen to that...I love that part as well. :)
It's easy to forget these days just how hot Kirstie Alley was back in the day. Plus, if they had listened to her character, this would have been a short movie and Khan would have had a bad time lol.
It's 50/50 - a film about Intelligence vs Wisdom, Saavik was right in her knowledge of regulations about raising shields when approaching the Reliant, but then later in the film its Kirk's experience as a commander that bests Khan
Khan and Saavik are in the same boat when Spock says "He's intelligent, but not experienced" - to me that's the whole point of the film anyway
JAMES HORNER RIP - This scene would have been a total TMP recycle if not for Horner's AMAZING score. Well, and the awesome uniforms too. I love the red wraparound-tunics in these movies.
Koldeman I disagree, you are forgetting the first time usage of 3D rendering ever for a movie production which was used during the Genesis scenes.
They did have cool uniforms in this one.
You ARE SO RIGHT!
I feel like the more standardized uniforms added a layer of military realism that I really liked
Tough for me to choose my favorite between these uniforms and the collared TNG uniforms from the later seasons.
Nice to see a starship at impulse power moving like a capital ship instead of a fighter jet
A really excellent scene that breathes life into familiar visuals, especially the overwhelming excitement of Captain Kirk and the deadpan offer of a tranquilizer by Dr. McKoy.
R.I.P. Kristi Alley, you will be missed.
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon...
"Would you like a tranquilizer?'
That very short scene was so perfect and funny.
I grew up with the first constitution refit and the A so always love seeing this
and RIP Kirstie Alley you will be missed
In the extended version of Star Trek II,Admiral Kirk is having a chat with 1 of the engineer trainees,who was being very bold. That trainee was Scotty's nephew.
Never gets old. Saw this in the theater when i was a LOT younger. It's been here on You tube for 13 yrs... still, I'll watch it. Leaving dry dock. It was such a treat to see our beloved Enterprise as she should be, could be, the way I always imagined her... It was like watching a queen who always had to wear work clothes and costume jewelry, her entire life, suddenly walk through the door wearing silk, diamonds and a handsome crown. Science fiction at its best.
Star Trek II still my all time favorite Star Trek movie. I remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the theater twice to watch it as a kid. This scene with the awesome score, with the crew making all the quiet preparations like a true professional StarFleet crew - simply awesome. They need to bring back subtle details like that in modern sci-fi.
You know the music works when just leaving spacedock feels exhilarating.
Such an amazing moment as the Enterprise's running lights are coming on, and her engines come to life. Hard to believe it was over 40 years ago I was watching this moment in a theater in awe of the massive ship moving out of dock. Still gives me chills. Wish they would show old movies like this in theaters.
Independent theatres usually show classics. I saw blade runner that way and that movie is older than i am. I saw the movie a million times but in the a theatre was a new experience for me
I did like how Spock had faith in Saavik enough to have her command flight. Makes his anger at Valeris much more heart breaking.
Especially considering Valeris was originally intended to be Saavik. That betrayal would have punched even harder then.
Saavik betrayal would have been heartbreaking
@@chrispeplinski7306 What happened to Saavik? I can't remember.
@@BB-mv9wl She stayed behind on Vulcan at the start of Star Trek IV.
I'm showing this on the next KickOff meeting for one of my Projects comprised of junior staff & Interns.
Best part of this scene is Kirk nearly having a panic attack when Saavik takes the chair. "want a tranquilizer?" asks McCoy, followed by some brilliant facial ticks by Shatner, ROFL.
The good Doctor certainly knows his "patient," doesn't he? Such a high level of adrenaline & endorphins that must be surging through Kirk's bloodstream right then...
Love how nervous Kirk looks
Spock: "Now Mr.Saavik, get us in again ....."
Kirk: "Don't push it Captain"
...nope, that's the first time we see Kirk FAINT!!! LMAO
You could call this scene "Spock plays a cruel practical joke on Kirk" and it still works. Still holds up as a movie 37 years later.
@trha2222 Presumably it's more involved than that... we don't see much once the ship starts moving.
Enterprise is not just a mere starship. She is a caring mother.
"We call our ships 'she' because they carry life", a tough old CPO of my acquaintance.
My dad always loved how Kirk said "later" at 0:42. A good way to have fun with the ship he loves.
"Would you like the tranquilliser?"xD
Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
silently, "LATER"
bahah
+JediNg135 Yep, Kirk wanted to skip the inspection and see his former ship get into action, even if it's just a trip around the solar system. Spock was a cool captain. The writers should have had shown him in command of his own ship at the end of Star Trek VI or at the beginning of Star Trek Generations. What could have been.
Spock said in Movie II, that although he is a good educator and commander, he don't feel like he is able to be a good captain, as he couldn't attach emotionally with his crew. That's one of the reasons, why the Vulcan commanded ships are run 100% by Vulcans, they understand this, but humans wouldn't.
And well, he already was working on his new career as a diplomat in and after movie 5, because he has decided to retire from Star Fleet together with the rest of the crew, although he would be only 67 years old then (just to compare: T'Pol of Star Trek was OLDER when she became second in Command in Enterprise, 66 is not a huge age for a species that can reach 250 years of age.) He didn't plan to command after the happenings of the trilogy.
(What's interesting of Star Trek is, that ST is in a way the history of Spock (or better said told by Spock), he is the only character who has been from the first pilot until 2389 in duty (as he was after Nemesis the embassador on Romulus again) and even in the newest movie. The only series where no Spock was living was Enterprise :D
Acme Spock was the captain of the Enterprise he was just training a new crew for his ship.
McCoy actually asks if he wants Saavik tranquilized if you listen closely lol bust still th elook son both McCoy and Kirks face when Spock lets Saavik take the ship out is a corker, ha ha, leeting these young cadets be in charge of the ship he has commanded for so many years
Star Trek then: They had to out think a genetically superior human hell bent on revenge. Star Trek Now: They beat the aliens by playing "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys
I'm so glad I quit watching the trash movies by JJ Abrahams.
Star Trek Beyond was phenomenal and having Captain Kirk save the day with the Beastie Boys was a super fun spin on the classic Star Trek trope of having to find the right signal frequency to talk to the aliens.
They still had to come up with that totally off the wall idea. The JJ movies are cheap entertainment for sure, but they’re still good movies. They’re just in a different category.
@@Grayqboufan into darkness is poop. Literally nothing makes any sense. What’s white khans plan? It involves a lot of assumptions
For those that were wondering why Kirk was suddenly shaky when Saavik piloted the Enterprise out of the dock. This was a connecting parallel to the hazards of ocean going naval and merchant ships leaving a port or dry dock. In many ports around the world there are often tight clearances, sharp turns to make, and other vessels nearby so the chances of collisions are greater in a port or dock than out in open sea. Some of you have likely seen the TH-cam videos of ships, within a port or harbor, accidentally ramming docks, tugboats, other ships, or causing other small vessels to capsize as they attempt to leave or come in to dock. Here, even though all Saavik is doing is having Sulu move forward, notice that this space dock has little room on either side of the Enterprise.
+ACLTony Many ports actually send out personnel (harbor pilots) that take command of the ship just for this reason. They are paid very well. Great comment.
+ColSandersLives Thanks! I noticed some of the comments that indicated that some didn't understand why Kirk suddenly got a bit nervous. Big Ship + Narrow Dock + Rookie Pilot = STRESS!, lol.
Yet all that was required was "Aft thrusters, one quarter impulse power". Not a whole lot to get worried over.
@@MrAlumni72
You should read the novel Enterprise. And see just what happened the first time Sulu took the Enterprise out of space dock
I always thought it was Spock getting in some good natured trolling on his best friend.
I will never ever forget the first time I saw this movie and this part. I was in Junior High(Middle) school in 1982. This sequence went through my head almost every hour of every day. I remember shaking in my seat while watching this movie. It still stands as the most exciting movie I had ever seen in my childhood. I'm a fan for life. Even at the age of 43. :)
Who says Vulcans have no sense of humor? Spock played a great joke on Admiral Kirk.
Aftr all he is half human
The score for this scene is one of my favorites in all of Trek, it just gets me every time! :D
The Wrath of Khan score is the most awesome!
One of THE best movie scores ever made, even decades later, and very much my favorite Star Trek movie even since I was a kid
the music is AMAZING (goosebumps)
Never understood why Kirk was freaked. Savik just sat there. Sulu was driving.
+jmtnvalley Freaked no. More like anxious. The enterprise is his baby. I'd imagine he doesn't trust anybody with it. Even if its just commanding the ship out of spacedock
Exactly. He's not going to crash it if she gives the wrong commands.
Kirk and Spock sit in the chair too and Sulu is still "driving."
So why don't they just make Sulu the captain?
@@deltaray3 Because it´s a SHIP with the common specific SHIP-Chain-of-command: Captain gives the orders to the First Officer, who then passes the orders to the (bridge)Crew accordingly and in this case the order was pointed to the HELMSMAN, which is Mr Sulu. That is how it has been done for centuries in REAL life and that´s how it´s done (correctly) in Star Trek. Helmsman is NOT a captain despite he is the supposedly "driving". Helmsman MAY become an "acting" captain only by a given order directly from the Highest Rank Officer on the ship, or in case ALL the other Officers of Higher Rank than the Helmsman himself are DEAD or INCAPABLE of performing their duty.
This whole scene is essentially Spock & Bones teasing Kirk.
Definitely the best of all the Star Trek movies. It had it all.
The JJ Abrams movie had glitz and special effects. Pine and Quinto and Urban were good but there's just no comparison to the original thing. It's too bad that he strayed so far from the canon.
ACLTony It's an alternate timeline/universe, so straying too far from canon isn't that much of a deal.
Raymond Conlon The problem is they didn't even stay consistent or make sense to the in-universe rules established by the writers. This parallel universe was supposed to be created by the branching off of timelines due to Nero's arrival in the past....but even before those changes, there are marked differences between the stories background information. JJ Abrams basically just created an action movie with some basic words thrown in like "warp drive" and "phasers" and didn't care how it worked as long as there was flashy lights and lots of mindless action.
Which, if you take it merely on the context of being a popcorn action flick, it works well enough. But as Star Trek, in any form? No....it's not. And it never will be.
compmanio36 The divergent point isn't Nero's emergence from the black hole, it's as far back as Edith Keeler. Since the Enterprise will not have the same time-travel adventures vs seen in the original series/films, so to will future Starfleet crews have alternate adventures, which will affect the past.
Raymond Conlon Huh, I hadn't heard that.....is that info they put into the comic or whatever it was that was supposed to fill in the backstory? How could situations that far back be affected when Nero didn't arrive until centuries later?
compmanio36 Well, just consider: how can the time-travel adventures of the Kirk Enterprise, Picard Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Voyager etc occur as we saw them in the Prime timeline following Nero's incursion's? Whether or not they were part of established history or not, they no longer happen now. Soon as that black hole formed in the past, the timeline - past and future - was completely different. Sort of like in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to some extent.
It's a bit difficult to wrap your head around, but it explains why Starfleet is so different (USS Kelvin).
Spock is messing with Kirk and McCoy! lol
+drlee2 Yes, you're right! Neat thing about Spock is that he often affirms his Vulcan way of thinking and mannerisms, yet from time to time he will pull off a sneaky "fast one" on his friends without missing a Vulcan beat.
+drlee2 And who said Vulcans didn't have a sense of humor? *lol*
+drlee2 And Kirk gets him back when leaving Spacedock in Undiscovered Country
just Kirk.
The Vulcan humor is, as we have learned in Enterprise, a more subtle one, they like the unexspected, not 100% logical, as it's contradicts their typical experience. And nobody says, that Vulcans don't understand emotions (they have Pon Farr, never to forget), they just don't use them for decision making.
The score is so goddamn good. I like Star Trek best when it plays up the nautical theme, the naval uniforms and the sailing music.
Near the end of this scene is when the woman seated ahead of me in the theatre leaned over to her husband and said "This is really good." She also was of course in tears when Spock died. The theatre (Shady Oak in Clayton, Missouri) was PACKED. Everyone loved it.
Personally I just love how melodic Kirstie Alley's voice is. Her responses and orders are almost like a voice turned into music.
Kirstie Alley played Saavik well. Starting to see where her line of in Look Who's talking Too when she says "No, But I'm a Vulcan." is starting to make sense.
For context, I saw that before Star Trek in the early 90s.
Spoc was such a class act! All these movies give me the fuzzies.
You need to see a doctor
"Would you like a tranquilizer?"
+John Westcott no shakes head
"No"
This scene gives me chills. Outstanding.
The leaving sequence is the same one used the motion picture!
***** Did you just say this music is *better* than Jerry Goldsmith's?!?!
hatchbx He did, Jerry Goldsmith's score in the motion picture was amazing, I find some of James Horners work great but he does recycle is work far to often
Marvellous though this new Enterprise departure from Space Dock is, the real departure of old Ark Royal from Plymouth gets my vote for first place. th-cam.com/video/GAgV57KW1_0/w-d-xo.html
The takeaway from this scene is Spock has a sense of humour...he knows it is stressing out Kirk and McCoy Savik taking out the Enterprise (Sulu is at the helm so it is an odd concern) but he can hide behind his Vulcan logic for the shits n giggles! Love this scene!
I miss the days of studio scale models… what a beauty that ship is… the detail is amazing ..
I love how she still looks at Kirk....almost as if asking HIS permission, before she takes the Captain's Chair to pilot the ship out of space dock.
Spock let his human half show in this one... (He knew Kirk would be on edge when he allowed Saavik to take her out)
Such an inspirational franchise. Much thanks to those who worked on Star Trek and to the fans that kept TOS from being cancelled.
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0:38
McCoy: Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
Kirk (mouthing): Later.
(LOL)
Spock: Mr Sulu. You may indulge yourself.
Sulu Reaches down. Pulls out a flask of alcohol and some cigarettes.
"Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself"
I don't think the bridge is the place for that sort of thing Spock.
It's a shame we never got to see what type of Captain Savvik would have been.
2:10 Kirk just shaked his head made me laugh 😂 I seen this part when I was a kid I did that before but when I was older now I saw when he smiled since along time ago 😂😂😂
Why is it when Kirstie Alley returned to human form she just went to hell, but as a Vulcan, she was hot as hell?
Kirstie is not a Romulan/Vulcan and Saavik is not human.
I would still ponfar her.
@President Donald J Trump Good grief. I believe Kirstie voted for Trump. I would think Lt.Saavik would think he was very logical.
Chocolate Cake!
Love the preflight checks in the background. So awesome and adds realism!
I LOVE when Spocks eyebrow goes up he is going to do something. LOL The look of HORROR on Kirks face is priceless! Star Trek 2 will always be the best of the Trek movies and a top five greatest sci fi movies of all time.
I've always loved these Starfleet uniforms. Makes the organization feel like an actual "space navy".
NCC - The art director Matt Jefferies thought of it. It's based on 20th century aircraft registration code. (N used to mean registered to the USA, C stands for civil aircraft. Also because NC was for US crafts and CC CC was for Soviet Crafts, they combined the two.) Also apparently lot of star trek novels and documents say that NCC stands for "Naval Construction Contract".
1701 - 17 stands for the 17th cruiser design and 01 is the serial number.
we will never know what kind of Captain Saavik would have made. R.I.P. to a great and wonderful lady.
The attention to detail in this sequence is amazing. The dock working waving as the ship pulls out....the background chatter of the pre-launch checklist. The new ST movies could learn a little from this....
Saavik: 1/4 impulse
Saavik in Star Trek 6: May I remind you that star fleet regulation allows for use of thrusters only while in space dock
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It's unbelievable. The movie is 40 yeears old, but the enterprise still locks good. It does not look old or something. What a great ship.
it does not look old or something 🤔
Rest in Peace Christie Alley....
You are sorely missed 😞
This scene shows the togetherness of the bridge crew and the ship as well as she leads them out for the next big adventure into space.
I first seen this movie back in 1982 . To this day, The wrath of Khan is still the best ST movie.
I never get tired of seeing the Enterprise.
Was it that one guy's job to wave bye to every ship leaving spacedock?
I'm sure that he has a proper job but there is just a human instinct to wave when something big and majestic sails past!
His great-grandfather was a Walmart greeter.
He has to earn his pay somehow
Actually, I'm pretty sure he's going "Hey guys! You forgot me! Guys! Wait!"
@@benrussell-gough1201 especially when that majestic ship is Enterprise. She is the flagship and diplomat of the Federation.
"Mister" Saavik manages to pull out of the garage without hitting anything.
Mister is the correct naval term for a midshipman. generally, in the forces, you address the rank and not the person and the ranks are genderless. most senior female officers are referred to as "Sir". there are some that insist on being called "Ma'am" or something like that but very rarely especially in the British forces as the term "Ma'am" is used by the Queen (Ma'am rhyming with jam and NOT harm).
Bones: "Would you like a tranquilizer?" lol
Savik is Spock's protege, she is half Vulcan and half romulan.
That's not cannon. It was never stated on screen what exactly her heritage is, just that's she's Vulcan.
I believe, book canon anyways, that Saavik and Spock marry. Don't remember the book, though.
@@g00gleminus96 The novel to the movie mentions it.
@@chipsnow6514 Vulcan's Heart. Spock must've decided-after he was pissed off by Valeris-that he actually preferred Saavik and she him. They disagreed in this story about getting together with the Romulans, but otherwise cared very much for each other.
@@g00gleminus96 wrong the novels say it. David made a comment he thought Saavic was Spocks daughter and she replied if she thought he meant it she would kill him, Romulans mated with Vulcans to humiliate them and her Vulcan parent is almost certainly dead
So much better than the Star Trek 2009 CRAP!
Tree Rock Creations Speak for yourself. Not for me. Star Trek 2009 was awesome
Still one of the best Startrek movies. J J Abrams attempt at remaking this really wasn't flattering.
I love this version of the Enterprise more that the other versions.
1:48 - Saavik is like "Ooooooooooooohhhh shit... With KIRK on the bridge?"
Applause for the model makers for the most amazing details....cgi can't compare
I like the notion that leaving port is an ordeal, like a naval ship. I doubt Starfleet calls sea-&-anchor details but the idea that the crew has to actively do things to take a ship out of port adds realism.
RIP, Kirstie!
I really enjoyed the brief moments we see Spock in the chair it really seems like he's more confident & logically giving orders to Sulu without having to give up the seat to Kirk. This is his ship now.
she is still so beautiful.
I always wonder who is little man waving to the enterprise at 02:43!!!
Here after seeing u.s.s. titan-a leave spacedock
1/4 impulse would have shot that ship out and pushed the space dock back I think she meant maneuvering thrusters 1/4 ahead
They dealt with this in The Undiscovered Country when the new Vulcan at the helm quoting regulations regarding maneuvering thrusters only in space station. However, I agree that impulse power would been quite a kick start.
@@seanwebb605 There's a difference between a space station and dock.
@@r0bw00d Yawn. Obvious reasons for following such regulations in both cases.
@@seanwebb605 Yawn. They went straight and didn't have a door or any traffic in front of them. Don't assume that the regulation for a space dock is the same for a space station.
@@r0bw00d That's just silly. Obviously there are other obstacles including people working in the area. Why do people defend bad writing?
Spock: Lt. have you ever piloted a ship out of spacedock?
Savik: No
Spock: There is a first time for everything. Take her out.
Savik: Sulu, pilot the ship out of spacedock.
Spock has confidence in young Lt. Saavik. He rescued her and taught her much before she even went to Starfleet. He will continue to teach her on the ship and as long as he can.
At times in this sequence you can see that Kirk is actually quite pleased with the Cadets. The way Saavik handled the big chair, actually brought a bit of smile to the Admiral's face. Though, I know that part of him was wishing he was sitting in the chair.
1:55 that look on Kirk's face as Saavik is headed towards the captain chair.
"But...she's never... my baby!"
what happened to that line:-
"i don't think these kids can steer".
I don't think it was in star trek 2
@@mr-mz4ed It was on the tv version but for some reason cut.