I wish they would do a recut of this film. The deleted scenes are far more interesting than the film we got. Even if it just ends up being a hangout movie where stuff happens
Frakes has said in the years since that if he had been offered the directing job, he would have accepted. Whether or not that would have made a difference in the overall performance of the film, I don't know...but I do think things might have been slightly different. I also think that if Ron Moore and Brannon Braga hadn't had their falling out, things might have been different. As for Worf being first officer, sound like the TNG relaunch novels might be for you.
In the Titan books, Worf was going to join Riker on the Titan as his XO, but with Data's death at the end of this film, Picard had no suitable replacement (since this was a deleted scene), so Worf stayed on the Enterprise as interim first officer until it was made official some years later. Geordi was also offered the XO job for both ships, but didn't want to transfer to the command track yet, and is now second officer of the Enterprise.
I know that this video was posted 5 years ago but if you will notice that the captain's chair is the same chair used in the last season of Star Trek: Enterprise and Trip told Archer not to push the button.
That's because having seatbelts is usually pointless in Trek. These ships move at least at 74000 km/s at sublight... and have inertial dampeners to negate the acceleration and deceleration forces that would usually crush the crew. Going to Warp alone would likely crush the crew without some kind of inertia dampening field due to rapid changes... and seat-belts would not matter in such rapidly changing conditions. The fact that the crew doesn't get smashed to bits under sublight speeds with the inertial dampers offline is likely because some form of inertia dampening is still working... plus they have artificial gravity. Still, I guess they might be useful in areas where hull breaches occur... but with superluminal processing, etc., forcefields would erect themselves instantly with the hull breach happening (meaning, no crew members should have flied off into space - hollywood just does it because they want to make things 'dramatic').
@@deksroning125 Apart from when the bridge is damaged like in the fight against the Scimitar - which resulted in the death of the helmsman? Or the countless occasions we've seen the inertial dampeners damaged resulting in bridge crew flying all over the place?
@@umairbutt1355 Exactly... Hollywood does it for the drama, but given the in-universe technology and overal capability, that doesn't make much sense because as I said, with superluminal processing, forcefields would seal the hull breach instantly.
That's correct! This end is much better than the end of the theatrical Version - it fits more to Star Trek - is the situation bad - take it with humor and the show goes on!
Should have ended with Picard being promoted to Admiral and heading off to command the new joint Romulan task force, leaving Captain Riker in Command of the Enterprise. Just my opinion, but feel it would have been a better fit leading into ST:P
It would have been nice if instead of Riker leaving Picard gets promoted to Admiral and we see Riker gets to take The Enterprise as Captain. Remember in Generations Riker tells Picard I always thought I would have gotten a chance at this Chair. Picard tells him Perhaps u still might I doubt this will be the last Ship to have the name Enterprise, The Nemesis movie Should have had Picard have a flashback to where he tells Riker U have the bridge Number 1. he comes out of the flashback and tells Riker U HAVE THE SHIP NUMBER1. then he strolls out and we see a new Ship waiting and Picard is beamed onboard as its new Commanding Officer and he said WARP 1 ENGAGE, The name says USS STARGAZER in memory of the old Stargazer,
The reason this was cut from the theatrical release was because they wanted to emphasize the battle with the Scimitar. I also think that they didn't want to give the fans hope that there might be another film, as it was apparently decided during production that Nemesis was going to be the last TNG film. This ending also partially references the scripted ending: the newly repaired Enterprise-E leaving drydock, and at the very least, the pull back in the last few seconds would have segued into the scene we saw in the film, with the ship sitting in drydock, still undergoing repairs.
I knew I remembered seeing the new first officer call him Jean Luc, but every time I have seen it since it was in theaters, it wasnt there. Man it was stupid to remove it.
Worf should have been made first officer. It's bizarre that he wasn't, given how much character development he had in this direction especially with DS9.
Meanwhile, Worf and every background character is watching and secretly wondering why they can't get an airbag or modest length of safety rope at their consoles.
That one mention of a system that's already been explored (especially that one) is the only reason I'm glad this scene wasn't in the film / isn't canon. Otherwise, the scene should never have been cut.
You do wonder why Geordi wasn’t the one supervising the refit of the Enterprise, unless at this point he’d also accepted a transfer/promotion and was just waiting to disembark? After all it was revealed that not long after Nemesis he started restoring the Enterprise-D.
Both the original and this ending reveal a transition to the future, that the stories won't end with this movie. Although this ending has a lot more humor and involves more of the crew. Steven Culp (Star Trek: Enterprise) would've been a good choice as first officer.
@Raydensheraj He had xp as a medical company president and had us stargate security clearance allowing him to steal replicator tech (not the tea earl grey hot, kind, but the spider kind).
At the time Geordi hadn't taken the bridge officer or Comand track training and thus was not qualified. Worf had a really bad black mark on his recored when he abandoned an important mission to save his wife (Dax) during the dominion war. (TBH) that really was on Sisko for sending g a husband wife pair on the same mission.
Why would the second most senior member of the 1000 man crew act like he just left school? I presume he went through all the other ranks to get to where he is?
Une fin alternative pour Star Trek némésis, je l’aurais sûrement préféré à la destruction de l’androïde data Les fan déteste la mort des personnages de Star Trek. Steven culp est un excellent acteur
Unfortunately for me I only read and speak English and TH-cam doesn't seem to have a translator like Facebook. So I am unable to read your response.. help :(
@@ttripp69 hi , I ´m sorry i translate for you An alternative ending for Star Trek némésis, I would have surely preferred it , to the destruction of the android Data. Fans hate the death of Star Trek characters .Steven culp are a good actor. Thank you for this video 🖖
While its nice to see Madden, Picard and Geordi here are just weird. Data was blown up and they are smiling. They were more upset when Data was thinking of quitting when Maddox wanted to dissect him. But now hes blown up and its ohh smile smile smile
Nemesis never should have happened. Insurrection, while no gem, should have had Picard stay behind on Planet Immortal, Riker take the Enterprise, and Data get that promotion to first officer he earned years ago.
I wish they would do a recut of this film. The deleted scenes are far more interesting than the film we got. Even if it just ends up being a hangout movie where stuff happens
They should have had a scene with riker beaming aboard the titan and showing his ship briefly
riker and picard flying off in the distance seperately like sulu and kirk would be a great way to end it.
@@khainoob2496 Great idea. They probably didn't want to pay for it.
I'm glad they canonized Worf eventually becoming second in command and then captain of the Enterprise-E.
Frakes should have directed... And Worf should have been made first officer!
Frakes has said in the years since that if he had been offered the directing job, he would have accepted. Whether or not that would have made a difference in the overall performance of the film, I don't know...but I do think things might have been slightly different. I also think that if Ron Moore and Brannon Braga hadn't had their falling out, things might have been different.
As for Worf being first officer, sound like the TNG relaunch novels might be for you.
Well it looks like worf is the captain of the enterprise now. And Frakes has done some directing. Wishs granted!
In the Titan books, Worf was going to join Riker on the Titan as his XO, but with Data's death at the end of this film, Picard had no suitable replacement (since this was a deleted scene), so Worf stayed on the Enterprise as interim first officer until it was made official some years later. Geordi was also offered the XO job for both ships, but didn't want to transfer to the command track yet, and is now second officer of the Enterprise.
I think worf was probably the first choice but couldn’t because general martok made him the Klingon ambassador to the federation
I completely agree
The first officer was Major Hayes in Enterprise
Apparently that was his ancestor
Also someone somewhat important in Stargate too...just can't remember what.
@@Kaede-Sasakino stargate
Star Trek have a habit of recycling actors who previously didn't get or make the final cut for a role they first applied for.
I wish this was in the film since I love how will pranks the new first officer.
That definitely made the film as I remember the scene…
I know that this video was posted 5 years ago but if you will notice that the captain's chair is the same chair used in the last season of Star Trek: Enterprise and Trip told Archer not to push the button.
That's because having seatbelts is usually pointless in Trek.
These ships move at least at 74000 km/s at sublight... and have inertial dampeners to negate the acceleration and deceleration forces that would usually crush the crew.
Going to Warp alone would likely crush the crew without some kind of inertia dampening field due to rapid changes... and seat-belts would not matter in such rapidly changing conditions.
The fact that the crew doesn't get smashed to bits under sublight speeds with the inertial dampers offline is likely because some form of inertia dampening is still working... plus they have artificial gravity.
Still, I guess they might be useful in areas where hull breaches occur... but with superluminal processing, etc., forcefields would erect themselves instantly with the hull breach happening (meaning, no crew members should have flied off into space - hollywood just does it because they want to make things 'dramatic').
@@deksroning125 Apart from when the bridge is damaged like in the fight against the Scimitar - which resulted in the death of the helmsman? Or the countless occasions we've seen the inertial dampeners damaged resulting in bridge crew flying all over the place?
@@umairbutt1355 Exactly... Hollywood does it for the drama, but given the in-universe technology and overal capability, that doesn't make much sense because as I said, with superluminal processing, forcefields would seal the hull breach instantly.
@@deksroning125 This is a movie, not real life.
Worf: seatbelts are for cowards
"Seatbelts are for cowards....but for him, I will make an exception."
That's correct! This end is much better than the end of the theatrical Version - it fits more to Star Trek - is the situation bad - take it with humor and the show goes on!
God i miss the good ol Star Trek. I guess rewatching TNG Voyager and DS9 Will do forever.
Should have told him the chair had a massage button.
Also SEAT BELTS. THEY HAVE FINALLY REDISCOVERED THE LOST TECHNOLOGY
Next one circuit breakers
Should have ended with Picard being promoted to Admiral and heading off to command the new joint Romulan task force, leaving Captain Riker in Command of the Enterprise.
Just my opinion, but feel it would have been a better fit leading into ST:P
That happened about five years later in the timeline
They also did not included Geordi and Worf in Data's quarters, clearing out Data's personal belongings.
I wish they would have included this segment and then went to the scene where Picard is talking to B4.
It would have been nice if instead of Riker leaving Picard gets promoted to Admiral and we see Riker gets to take The Enterprise as Captain. Remember in Generations Riker tells Picard I always thought I would have gotten a chance at this Chair. Picard tells him Perhaps u still might I doubt this will be the last Ship to have the name Enterprise, The Nemesis movie Should have had Picard have a flashback to where he tells Riker U have the bridge Number 1. he comes out of the flashback and tells Riker U HAVE THE SHIP NUMBER1. then he strolls out and we see a new Ship waiting and Picard is beamed onboard as its new Commanding Officer and he said WARP 1 ENGAGE, The name says USS STARGAZER in memory of the old Stargazer,
This, after years of being number one, he literally becomes THE one to have the con, and seemd natural that he would take Picard's place as captain
So many movies which could have been made so much better with so many alternative endings,
but weren't.
especially generations
I'm glad this was cut.
The reason this was cut from the theatrical release was because they wanted to emphasize the battle with the Scimitar.
I also think that they didn't want to give the fans hope that there might be another film, as it was apparently decided during production that Nemesis was going to be the last TNG film.
This ending also partially references the scripted ending: the newly repaired Enterprise-E leaving drydock, and at the very least, the pull back in the last few seconds would have segued into the scene we saw in the film, with the ship sitting in drydock, still undergoing repairs.
Iconic music
I knew I remembered seeing the new first officer call him Jean Luc, but every time I have seen it since it was in theaters, it wasnt there. Man it was stupid to remove it.
Worf should have been made first officer. It's bizarre that he wasn't, given how much character development he had in this direction especially with DS9.
He would've been a captain already, if it wasn't for his.... Change of Heart.
Could have sent him off with Riker to be XO on the titan.
Meanwhile, Worf and every background character is watching and secretly wondering why they can't get an airbag or modest length of safety rope at their consoles.
Or at least a handle to hold on to.
"could you at least fill the console with bean bags and not rocks?"
Nemesis was not that great, and the ramming was interesting, but I agree, this ending would have been just as good if not better.
they should have had a better signoff for the TNG crew if they weren't going to use it but what to replace them with would be a problem.
Instead of a clone Picard. It should have been Sela.
The Denab System? Wasn't Denab IV the location of the Farpoint Station? Visited by Picard and company on SD 41005.3?
That one mention of a system that's already been explored (especially that one) is the only reason I'm glad this scene wasn't in the film / isn't canon. Otherwise, the scene should never have been cut.
No, the B is silent in the other one
Worf wanted to slap the smugness out of that brat-of-an-engineer! 😂
You do wonder why Geordi wasn’t the one supervising the refit of the Enterprise, unless at this point he’d also accepted a transfer/promotion and was just waiting to disembark?
After all it was revealed that not long after Nemesis he started restoring the Enterprise-D.
Wesley as a Traveler would have stopped time and rescued Data, so they could explore the Universe.
the wesley traveler is a non canon shit fron new shows
@Zontar82 Wesley became a Traveler and left the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Next Generation.
Both the original and this ending reveal a transition to the future, that the stories won't end with this movie. Although this ending has a lot more humor and involves more of the crew.
Steven Culp (Star Trek: Enterprise) would've been a good choice as first officer.
The chair doesn't match the bridge
why weren't someone from the crew promoted.
Qualifications?
@Raydensheraj
He had xp as a medical company president and had us stargate security clearance allowing him to steal replicator tech (not the tea earl grey hot, kind, but the spider kind).
At the time Geordi hadn't taken the bridge officer or Comand track training and thus was not qualified. Worf had a really bad black mark on his recored when he abandoned an important mission to save his wife (Dax) during the dominion war. (TBH) that really was on Sisko for sending g a husband wife pair on the same mission.
The actor playing the new First Officer looks like Matthew Broderick. Strange.
*****
He DOES resemble Matthew Broderick to a degree.
Daniel Appleton He was on Star Trek Enterprise
C’est Steven culp il est aussi présent dans Star Trek entreprise en tant que chef d’un groupe de sécurité (guerre)
I thought they already had the Enterprise E at the beginning of the movie? Was this scene just showing it being repaired?
back when Picard was still Picard
agreed, and not the frail snowflake woke of the new series
@@Zontar82 really? this is your biggest problem with the show? diversity? I'm guessing the writing is fine.
Why would the second most senior member of the 1000 man crew act like he just left school? I presume he went through all the other ranks to get to where he is?
Wie da einfach eine im Hintergrund UwU gesagt hat bei 2:24 xD
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED! The E rules!
That's how the version I saw ended... How did it end otherwise?
Where did you find this deleted scene and where can we see a better quality version?
You can find all deleted scenes on the DVD/Blu-ray releases in the bonus material.
that really would've been a better ending... though surely by that point worf should have had his own command...
I agree Worf should have been promoted .
Nemesis is a fine TNG film but BADLY needs a Director's Edition, along with several other Trek films, including V!
Une fin alternative pour Star Trek némésis, je l’aurais sûrement préféré à la destruction de l’androïde data
Les fan déteste la mort des personnages de Star Trek.
Steven culp est un excellent acteur
Unfortunately for me I only read and speak English and TH-cam doesn't seem to have a translator like Facebook. So I am unable to read your response.. help :(
@@ttripp69 hi , I ´m sorry i translate for you
An alternative ending for Star Trek némésis, I would have surely preferred it , to the destruction of the android Data. Fans hate the death of Star Trek characters .Steven culp are a good actor. Thank you for this video 🖖
I remember when this aired on TV in the 60's.
1920s. The 1960s had better video and audio quality 😂
Worf should have been made the XO...
Buts that's how my version of the film on blue Ray does end
The whole movie was pants. Mothballed the entire franchise.
Is it me or does that new 1st officer number 1 looks like Picard son?
3:08 Worf heads out on the mission that cripples the Enterprise E.
While its nice to see Madden, Picard and Geordi here are just weird. Data was blown up and they are smiling. They were more upset when Data was thinking of quitting when Maddox wanted to dissect him. But now hes blown up and its ohh smile smile smile
You can laugh at pranks while sad
It's been a while, enterprise is repaired, time Passes
Nemesis never should have happened. Insurrection, while no gem, should have had Picard stay behind on Planet Immortal, Riker take the Enterprise, and Data get that promotion to first officer he earned years ago.
did he think he is Q?
Hurray for Season 3 of Star Trek Picard!!
Will Riker is, and always been a dick. That's not really a criticism per se. It's just who the character is.
that's why we love him, especially in chain of command
This scene is ok for a tv show but it just makes no sense for a theatrical release.
They destroyed startrek i wanted to see a films with ds9 and voyager it would have been good. Shoeburyness socks.
Far from it. Nemesis should have ended with Data becoming Picard's first officer.
maybe re-watch the movie lmao there is a good reason why Data didn’t become XO
Deleted scenes are just as awful as the real movie.
Wasn’t he shot by a Xindi?
This film clip surely was😂