Imagine your dialysis patient suddenly has a repaired kidney and you ask her how and she said a strange doctor muttering about the dark ages gave her a mystery pill
@@GRasputin91 you'd think that but she has fully functional kidneys when before she had to have her blood cleaned as often as a McDonald's ice cream machine so clearly something happened
Not cure a kidney. She grew a new one. She either had one good one or none at all seeing as she was doing dialysis. Pretty amazing that they have a awesome pill in the 23rd Century that can grow an entire organ in just an hour.😄
@@traemaxwell And further amazing that the doctors saw she was happy, realised something drastic had happened, decided to scan her, scanned her, analised the results and got a load of other doctors together to wheel her down the corridor all aghast at her new kidney all in the space of about two minutes! With service like that I dont understand how she was laying on a gurney in unattended in a corridor in the first place! Hahahahaaa
Heck, even by 2021 standards the medicine of the mid 1980's seems primitive. Imagine what we'd think 300+ years into the future! The same way we currently feel about leeches, vapours and evil spirits!
@@andromidius You do realize medical leeches are still used today, right? They are used to help with circulation and by extension save limbs from needing to be amputated. Sometimes nature is more effective than anything we can create, the medical leech is an example of that.
Until he goes forward in time and gets ripped on by Drs. Crusher and Bashir. And I can’t imagine he would be happy with the doctor hologram from Voyager.
@@nrkgalt McCoy is actually a very well respected doctor in starfleet. When he boards enterprise in TNG they tell "well he's somewhat special sir". The EMS doctor even used some of McCoys technique. I remember he saying that one technique he use is invented by doctor McCoy. So i wouldn't think of crusher or bashir or EMS disrespecting him.
unless they charge an insane amount for the wealthy and make a shit ton of money before the federal government force them to make it available to everyone.
@@youbian It's a bit stupid actually. Real doctors are rather impressed with what was achieved in early modern medicine. For instance the anatomical books, surgical procedures and herbal medicines of the Medieval arabs was incredible for their time. There are correct procedures of how to turn a baby which is not positioned properly inside the womb when a woman is about to give birth and several notices about the importance of cleanliness. 18th century doctors correctly saw a connection between excessive eating of red meat and obesity (the curved lower back is still called lordosis after the fat lords who suffered from it). They also wrote several critical reports of how wealthy women shouldn't wear corsets since it constricted their natural breathing. Before we could manufacture insulin they extracted it from animals (pigs). Bones is full of crap. Any patient having subdural bleeding would need to have the blood extracted or suffer lethal brain damage. It's a perfectly valid remedy. His amazing machine somehow rebuilding the arteries and magically draining the excess blood pretty much means he is utterly redundant as a doctor since a machine does the trick in a matter of seconds. The mere idea that modern day medicine would somehow look like ancient superstition and bizarre methods such as blood-letting and balancing bodily fluids, to a doctor of the future is absurd.
@@youbian it's McCoy. He only lives in his version of here and now. It's what makes him invaluable as a doctor, even if it's somewhat crusty. Besides, it IS very frustrating watching people die around you when a simple small procedure could save them.
This is McCoy's shining moment. Even as they plow through the last door to the elevator, if you watch, he stops and helps the woman the door hits before returning to Kirk and Gillian. Outstanding, and the music is so appropriate.
How many dozens of times I've watched this, and somehow never noticed Leonard stop to help there! Thank you for pointing it out- and I agree on the music. Before I even saw your comment I was thinking how we'll probably never hear music like that in a Star Trek movie again, and what a shame that is.
@@mortb9 Old comment, but yes. Karl Urban was so good at being Bones, that when Leonard Nimoy saw his performance, he cried. He was like channeling Deforest Kelley.
This is my second favorite McCoy moment. The first is from 'Space Seed' where Khan wakes up and holds a scalpel to his throat. McCoy calmly tells him cutting the carotid artery would have the best effect. Level 100 badass.
If McCoy had bothered to mention Khan's attack to the Captain when he arrived moments later, the peril they later faced would have been avoided as Khan would have spent the rest of the flight in the brig, where his charisma and strength would be unavailing.
“My God, man! Drilling holes in his head IS the answer. Here, gimme that thing, I want to try it out!” Alternate ending for Mirror Universe version of the movie. 😀
This scene holds a special place in my heart. My dad was diagnosed with kidney dialysis days before he died (a side effect from a double-lung transplant he had). I talked to him over the phone while he was still awake before surgery. I quoted the bit about the old lady who grew a new kidney, and I heard everyone gasp because he smiled even though he was in a lot of pain. That was the last time my dad smiled before he died. I will always cherish this movie for giving my dad one last moment of joy before he left this world. RIP Dad
@@gregdark5203 Except, you don't get "diagnosed" with dialysis. It's the procedure used to cleanse the blood from contaminants and waste products normally filtered out _by_ the kidney. The diagnosis would be "Renal failure" and dialysis would be a treatment for it. Unfortunately, when the kidneys go, the only thing that can be done is transplant.
@@lancer525 I think your message was meant for the other guy whose father was on dialysis. My father actually died from congestive heart failure. But I learned something new reading your reply. Thank you for that info.
McCoy reminds me so much of my father. Dad has been a physician's assistant for about 40 years, served two tours in Vietnam before that as a medic aboard air evacuation and rescue. He has the exact same personality and bedside manner as McCoy. He's gruff, to the point, has a love / hate relationship with medicine, and there's nothing he hasn't seen and nothing surprises him.
Hi IPHLO, Thanks for compliment! I'll pass it on to Dad. :) He graduated from the PA program at Duke in 1971 I think it was. The PA program was fairly new then. He's been in the medical field most of his life in some capacity or another. He was a medic aboard air evacuation / rescue in Vietnam from 1967-1969 and before that had been working at his Uncle's funeral home doing embalming, first responder service and all that fun stuff. His name is Harvey and he's currently practicing in North Carolina at various FastMed Urgent Care branches. He'll be 73 next year and he'll never retire. Thanks for all you do for patients too!
I'm a doctor and I grew up with Star Trek. The 'new kidney' scene was a key moment of my career and one of the defining moments that made me want to become one. I know it's like a five second sequence thrown in for comedic relief mostly but I watched this scene as a kid multiple times and I always thought 'Hell, that's the future and it's entirely doable and I'll be damned if we won't have that within our lifetimes.'. Seriously. We're not that far off, and we haven't even achieved Warp Speed yet.
As a doctor, I have always wanted to ask one that is a ST fan: Is there any truth to what Bones is saying or is it medical jargon mixed in to make Bones sound ‘relevant’? (in the OR)
I'm not a doctor, but I think of this clip everytime they suggest to open an arm to repair a nerve. I'm like, we're are in the 21st century almost there to the 22nd century, and you tell me we're still cutting flesh? I understand, but I'd love if this was possible already.
At the end of the scene, when they appear at the park, the whole theater cheered. Those were the days, the audience was into the show and it really made things fun.
I remember when I saw Undiscovered Country in the theater in 1991 and people cheered when Kirk fired the homing torpedo. It was an experience that cannot be recreated. To see those types of movies in the theater with that many fans in the audience. And o yeah the entire theater was full back then.
It was the best goddamned hell of a Star Trek movie, ever! The Movie had an interesting plot idea and imho introduced the best looking version of the Enterprise, Khan was edge-of-your-seat adventure, but Voyage Home was pure, laughing joy. Son of The Trouble With Tribbles and A Piece Of The Action.
I loved it when Kirk said to the doctor all right everybody into that little room. I was a hospital nurse for 38 years and I would’ve loved to usher some of the doctors into a little room and lock the door.
Not to anybody who has an actual medical degree. Or whoever even has a modicum of understanding of modern medicine. Well, unless of course you mean the *comedic value* is brilliant. Any real doctor of the future would first of all offer his assistance in a professional manner and not act as if he was talking to cavemen who believe that magic amulets cure "evil spirits" or something along those lines.
@@McLarenMercedes Actually, I would disagree in this case. If you had the magic answer, and your son were about to be operated on by someone armed only with knowledge from about 400 years ago, would you let them? Absolutely not, and when they argue with you thinking that they are more knowledgable than you, I gaurantee you would not. The difference is akin to an 8th grade pre-algebra student argung theoretical mathematics with a professioor at Yale or Harvard. McCoy, though, likely would have done as you suggest in a different venue. Prime Directive applies here, even to McCoy and he would have likely loved to interact in the way you suggest to understand, but time, circumstance and familiarity with the patient does not allow it. Moreover, McCoy's personality does not brook foolish arrogance.
It just shows that under the gruff exterior he really is a caring, compassionate man. In fact, his compassion is the very thing that makes him gruff: he gets impatient when people do not get the help they need.
@@andrewaustin9536 interesting is that in the episode "Mirror, Mirror", the mirror Spock states that McCoy "Has many human weaknesses, sentimental, soft", even in that violent universe. It proves that your medical priority comes above all else.
To anyone studying to be a doctor , THIS is your role model : Dr. Leonard "Bones" Mccoy - he is never too busy to stop and help someone in need , he cares nothing for profit or glory ; his profit and glory is in knowing that he has helped someone ; that he has eased their pain and suffering ; that he has saved a life - please , future doctors , strive to be like him ; rise above this current generation of money loving fame coveting so called doctors - please , do better - and first , do no harm
I love Dr. Beverly Crusher because she's an excellent diagnostician. She taught me the importance of research since everything has a cause and thus can be treated or cured rather than simply dismissing patients and bandaging symptoms.
I remember watching this in the theater, and there was sincere laughter at McCoy's irascible mutterings about everyday 20th century medicine, and a moment of cheerful applause as they pass by the old lady and her freshly healed kidneys. It was obvious that where the beating heart of Trek was for that audience was in its sense of hope. That we can make things better.
How? Nobody in 1986 would have known how she suddenly had a fully functional kidney and it would have remained a mystery. From my recollection this prime directive only applies when they actually leave functional future technology in the past or something which helps a culture gain knowledge several years in advance. Besides, that old woman won't have any more kids and neither is she likely to do something which has a serious impact on future events. In fact her just gaining a fully functional kidney will just extend her life 5-10 years.
@@McLarenMercedes The Prime Directive applies ANYWHERE that current humanity would artificially alter a developing civilization. It's actually referenced in several TOS episodes and a few TNG ones.
This kidney lady AND the transparent aluminum dude from an earlier scene may be the MVP's of the one-scene players in this movie. They sell the hell out of their reactions, making something farfetched seem SO believable!
Errr... just a heads up, Transparent Aluminum (or a variation of it, Aluminium Oxynitride) is now an actual real thing since around 2016. Not so farfetched anymore... now for the kidney pill.
@Gen They had been trialed in Chicago a few years earlier, and service reached San Francisco by 1985 but only a handful of people could afford them. Doctors did have pagers though.
It’s all relative. Look up Bloodletting, lobotomy, and Trepanning (literal drilling holes in head) in centuries past. A few hundred years from now it we’d treat chemotherapy, conventional anti retrovirals, and cytotoxic medications the same way
My mother passed away from kidney failure a few years ago, and I remember this scene fondly. Bones' character knew he could alleviate so much suffering with a single pill. Bones didn't give a hang whether it disturbed the timeline! 🙂
My condolences on the death of your mother. We don't know what my mom died from because she had so many health problems, but kidney disease was a major factor in heard poor health. Unfortunately, I inherited it, and I'm down to one kidney. And now the remaining kidney is infected. I wish I had one of Dr. McCoy's pills. But at least the infection is clearing up.
Now this is real Star Trek. Fun, adventures, and smart writing that engages the viewers. Not the crap we are seeing now - Star Trek Discovery and Picard. I miss these old Trek.
Dr. Bones McCoy, The doctor that America’s healthcare needs, but doesn’t deserve. We need more doctors, nurses and surgeons that care as much as McCoy.
Star Trek IV is undeniably silly, but it has loads of fun moments like this and lets the actors play to the lighter side of their characters. Nice little touches like having Kirk call Chekov "Pavel", which was a very rare occurrence. And cranky Bones is always a treat, esp knowing how totally charming DeForrest Kelley was in real life.
i watched this with my grandmother when she was in her final weeks.. when the old woman on the gurney was telling everyone that the doctor gave her a pill and shes got a new kidney made her laugh with glee such a touching scene and a great memory. lol
I have always been fond of this scene: McCoy, Kirk and the others' primary mission here is to save Chekov, but McCoy, ever the humanitarian, still finds time on the way to Chekov to save an old suffering woman from kidney dialysis with a "kidney pill", which transforms her life! LOVELY!
“One little mistake!” That delivery was hilarious! Also, then beaming to the park was the one and only thing about this movie that bothered me. Why weren’t they beamed directly ON BOARD? I mean, besides that they needed the following scene of Gillian sneaking in to happen.
Headcanon: Scotty wasn't CERTAIN about the dilythium regeneration and the transporters just yet. They didn't show them transporting TO the hospital - only away. You COULD assume that Gillian DROVE them there in her truck while the power system repairs were wrapping up. First use of the transporters after the reboot. Scotty's taking NO CHANCES. He's SEEN what a malfunctioning transporter can do (ST:TMP) and wants NO part of it, especially with his friends lives on the line! To give himself a little extra "wiggle room" he transports them OUTSIDE the ship just to be on the safe side. He probably STILL wasn't happy he had to do the FIRST transport after the power system reboot with his friends in the beams. But hey - they don't call him the miracle worker for nothing! Oh - and on top of all of that, these transporters are KLINGON. He's gotten to know them by now. But STILL...
@@logandarklighter not bad, although Kirk had previously beamed Gillian on board earlier without any hiccups, so im sure Scotty would be pretty confident.
I love the way Sulu comes down the ramp to help Bones get Chekov onboard. Uhurah's reaction was never shown, but she was probably very relieved to see Chekov and hugged him and then he got settled in at his station.
I always find it funny that when McCoy uses his scanner to diagnose the problem the first thing the surgeon does is insult him by calling him a dentist 😂😂 2:01
I love the quick shot back to the doctors at 3:02. I mean they are genuinely concerned and locked in a closet but at the same time you can see them watching wondering "what is he doing?" I kind of wish they had a quick bit between Bones and the doctors where before they leave, the doctors yell at Bones begging to know what it was he did. Bones could have responded with a simple "Practiced medicine!" before knocking over another piece of equipment and leaving. Its like a doctor from our time going back to the 1600s and looking at how medicine (if it could really be called that) was done back then. The horror and disbelief would be identical.
The thing is, they way they run around unmasked and ungloved is really much closer to medevilism than drilling open the skull (seriously, how does McCoy expect them to "fix the bleed" without accessing it? He is shown to be enough of a medical historian to know exactly what technology they did and didn't have). I realize they have sterile fields or whatever in the future, but McCoy, at least, should know the about Hospital Acquired Infections in that era and act accordingly.
This scene hits harder after I lost my aunt in 2015 from Kidney Failure. She was on dialysis for so long. It was kind of a hopeful sentiment, seeing McCoy's reaction to Kidney dialysis being an archaic and brutal treatment.
This film, ST4, was the culmination of the great trilogy of TOS films (ST 2-4) After that they just were also rans! Bringing the crew to present day earth was a wonderful change up, and gave us great comedic relief.
I was there on opening night when this movie came out in the theaters, and I never noticed every viewing since that when the woman with a new kidney comes around the corner, her wheelchair runs over the nurse on the far left at 4:15.
Imagine your dialysis patient suddenly has a repaired kidney and you ask her how and she said a strange doctor muttering about the dark ages gave her a mystery pill
I'd say she's off her meds, or I'm off mine
@@GRasputin91 you'd think that but she has fully functional kidneys when before she had to have her blood cleaned as often as a McDonald's ice cream machine so clearly something happened
Not 'repaired',Replaced!
@@iggyarctic5711 so who's kidney does she have now
@@absolutcabbagery3661 then I reckon I'd probably start buying into those alien abduction stories.
I just love how Bones stops in the middle of the search to cure a woman's failing kidney
He probably would have healed the entire hospital full of patients if he had the time!
@@RobinMayhall He even tended to the guy on crutches to make sure he wasn't further injured at the very last second of their escape.
Not cure a kidney. She grew a new one. She either had one good one or none at all seeing as she was doing dialysis. Pretty amazing that they have a awesome pill in the 23rd Century that can grow an entire organ in just an hour.😄
@@traemaxwell And further amazing that the doctors saw she was happy, realised something drastic had happened, decided to scan her, scanned her, analised the results and got a load of other doctors together to wheel her down the corridor all aghast at her new kidney all in the space of about two minutes! With service like that I dont understand how she was laying on a gurney in unattended in a corridor in the first place! Hahahahaaa
@@traemaxwell Two minutes more like! LOL
"We're dealing with medievalism here." - Best line
and so true
Sorry no, "Doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney" is the best line.
@@jerricho11 awesome line
Heck, even by 2021 standards the medicine of the mid 1980's seems primitive. Imagine what we'd think 300+ years into the future! The same way we currently feel about leeches, vapours and evil spirits!
@@andromidius You do realize medical leeches are still used today, right? They are used to help with circulation and by extension save limbs from needing to be amputated. Sometimes nature is more effective than anything we can create, the medical leech is an example of that.
I need a show where Dr McCoy goes to different timelines each episode and trash talk their time's medical tech
you just made me think of an idea, would of been funny him arguing with House. lol that would be fun to imagine lol
I would gladly watch.
“I’m a doctor not a butcher!”
Until he goes forward in time and gets ripped on by Drs. Crusher and Bashir. And I can’t imagine he would be happy with the doctor hologram from Voyager.
@@nrkgalt McCoy is actually a very well respected doctor in starfleet. When he boards enterprise in TNG they tell "well he's somewhat special sir". The EMS doctor even used some of McCoys technique. I remember he saying that one technique he use is invented by doctor McCoy. So i wouldn't think of crusher or bashir or EMS disrespecting him.
Scientist: “I’ve developed a pill that can regenerate a kidney.”
Big Pharma Financier: “ Unfortunately that is not a sustainable business model.”
unless they charge an insane amount for the wealthy and make a shit ton of money before the federal government force them to make it available to everyone.
@@TheOmegaRiddler or they stretch it out into a full yearly or bi yearly treatment making it accesable but expensive as Fuck
But there’s no money in the future (in Star Trek that is)
@@ericallan920 No money, means people focus on real problems, also means people not ripping each others apart so their descendants can thrive.
Boy ain't this the truth.
As somebody else put it, it's funny watching McCoy trying to keep his shit together while seeing the reality of 20th-century medicine.
And the music in the chase scene is absolutely spot-on.
4:39 "WHAT THE HELL'S GOIN' ON??" ROFL
I mean, should he be surprised? They hadn’t discovered all of the stuff that he takes for granted living in a completely different century.
@@youbian It's a bit stupid actually. Real doctors are rather impressed with what was achieved in early modern medicine. For instance the anatomical books, surgical procedures and herbal medicines of the Medieval arabs was incredible for their time. There are correct procedures of how to turn a baby which is not positioned properly inside the womb when a woman is about to give birth and several notices about the importance of cleanliness. 18th century doctors correctly saw a connection between excessive eating of red meat and obesity (the curved lower back is still called lordosis after the fat lords who suffered from it). They also wrote several critical reports of how wealthy women shouldn't wear corsets since it constricted their natural breathing. Before we could manufacture insulin they extracted it from animals (pigs).
Bones is full of crap. Any patient having subdural bleeding would need to have the blood extracted or suffer lethal brain damage. It's a perfectly valid remedy. His amazing machine somehow rebuilding the arteries and magically draining the excess blood pretty much means he is utterly redundant as a doctor since a machine does the trick in a matter of seconds.
The mere idea that modern day medicine would somehow look like ancient superstition and bizarre methods such as blood-letting and balancing bodily fluids, to a doctor of the future is absurd.
@@youbian it's McCoy. He only lives in his version of here and now. It's what makes him invaluable as a doctor, even if it's somewhat crusty. Besides, it IS very frustrating watching people die around you when a simple small procedure could save them.
so happy for the woman who grew a fully functional new kidney
Same!
It's such a wholesome moment
"What's the matter with you?" Love how blunt he is.
He'd get along with Dr. .Gregory House.plus he'd cure him
Dr. House: Good bedside manner!
This is McCoy's shining moment. Even as they plow through the last door to the elevator, if you watch, he stops and helps the woman the door hits before returning to Kirk and Gillian. Outstanding, and the music is so appropriate.
He's a doctor, not a madman. 😂
Yes, I noticed that too. Great scene.
How many dozens of times I've watched this, and somehow never noticed Leonard stop to help there! Thank you for pointing it out- and I agree on the music. Before I even saw your comment I was thinking how we'll probably never hear music like that in a Star Trek movie again, and what a shame that is.
My God man!! DeForest Kelley was so perfect as Bones.
I thought Karl Urban was pretty good in the reboot. Casting and character development were about all Abrams got right.
McCoy had the best lines
@@mortb9 Old comment, but yes. Karl Urban was so good at being Bones, that when Leonard Nimoy saw his performance, he cried. He was like channeling Deforest Kelley.
@Merlyworm maybe he was I dread the day Shatner dies.
This is my second favorite McCoy moment. The first is from 'Space Seed' where Khan wakes up and holds a scalpel to his throat. McCoy calmly tells him cutting the carotid artery would have the best effect. Level 100 badass.
You have to throw in, "What IS it with you anyway?" from VI for an honorable mention..
If McCoy had bothered to mention Khan's attack to the Captain when he arrived moments later, the peril they later faced would have been avoided as Khan would have spent the rest of the flight in the brig, where his charisma and strength would be unavailing.
“My God, man! Drilling holes in his head IS the answer. Here, gimme that thing, I want to try it out!” Alternate ending for Mirror Universe version of the movie. 😀
Funny! They should have put Chekhov in the agony booth as well. Full duration!
@@kevinmcdonald6477 and make Spock the Captain.
And would’ve just stolen George and Gracie right out of the aquarium
wtf
"Egon, remember when you tried to drill a hole in your head?"
"That would've worked if you hadn't stopped me..."
4:27 the way Bones stops & helps the guy with the leg cast 😍
I love that scene.
This scene holds a special place in my heart. My dad was diagnosed with kidney dialysis days before he died (a side effect from a double-lung transplant he had). I talked to him over the phone while he was still awake before surgery. I quoted the bit about the old lady who grew a new kidney, and I heard everyone gasp because he smiled even though he was in a lot of pain. That was the last time my dad smiled before he died. I will always cherish this movie for giving my dad one last moment of joy before he left this world.
RIP Dad
Thanks for sharing that story. Sorry for your loss ❤️
McCoy's clash with the doc is hilarious.
Man, that's a great story.
@@gregdark5203 Except, you don't get "diagnosed" with dialysis. It's the procedure used to cleanse the blood from contaminants and waste products normally filtered out _by_ the kidney. The diagnosis would be "Renal failure" and dialysis would be a treatment for it. Unfortunately, when the kidneys go, the only thing that can be done is transplant.
@@lancer525 I think your message was meant for the other guy whose father was on dialysis. My father actually died from congestive heart failure. But I learned something new reading your reply. Thank you for that info.
That whimsical music as they’re wheeling Chekov down the hallway is just a stroke of musical brilliance.
the Doctor gave me a new kidney it's time to party kids🤣🤣🤣
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Yeah, booze it up ! PARTY !
Reminded me of all those Keystone Cops and Three Stooges chases. :)
McCoy reminds me so much of my father. Dad has been a physician's assistant for about 40 years, served two tours in Vietnam before that as a medic aboard air evacuation and rescue. He has the exact same personality and bedside manner as McCoy. He's gruff, to the point, has a love / hate relationship with medicine, and there's nothing he hasn't seen and nothing surprises him.
Mark T What is your dad's name if I may ask. I've been a PA for 15 years. Many of the pioneers like your dad have been great inspirations to me.
Hi IPHLO,
Thanks for compliment! I'll pass it on to Dad. :) He graduated from the PA program at Duke in 1971 I think it was. The PA program was fairly new then. He's been in the medical field most of his life in some capacity or another. He was a medic aboard air evacuation / rescue in Vietnam from 1967-1969 and before that had been working at his Uncle's funeral home doing embalming, first responder service and all that fun stuff. His name is Harvey and he's currently practicing in North Carolina at various FastMed Urgent Care branches. He'll be 73 next year and he'll never retire. Thanks for all you do for patients too!
Mark T: That's kinda what McCoy was- the Enterprise dad. Sure you may not like what he has to say but often times there is wisdom there.
May he live forever
@@Mark-yn4vl I LOVE it. Dr. McCoy patterned after your dad whether he know it or not!!
I'm a doctor and I grew up with Star Trek. The 'new kidney' scene was a key moment of my career and one of the defining moments that made me want to become one. I know it's like a five second sequence thrown in for comedic relief mostly but I watched this scene as a kid multiple times and I always thought 'Hell, that's the future and it's entirely doable and I'll be damned if we won't have that within our lifetimes.'.
Seriously. We're not that far off, and we haven't even achieved Warp Speed yet.
As a doctor, I have always wanted to ask one that is a ST fan: Is there any truth to what Bones is saying or is it medical jargon mixed in to make Bones sound ‘relevant’? (in the OR)
If you think about the advances in medicine in the 40 years since this movie was made, it's not unrealistic.
Drilling holes in his head is not the answer! And I agree 💯👍 we really are still in the dark ages
I'm not a doctor, but I think of this clip everytime they suggest to open an arm to repair a nerve. I'm like, we're are in the 21st century almost there to the 22nd century, and you tell me we're still cutting flesh?
I understand, but I'd love if this was possible already.
Dude, transparent aluminum is now a thing so I really really hope you develop the pill to grow new kidneys. You never know.
At the end of the scene, when they appear at the park, the whole theater cheered. Those were the days, the audience was into the show and it really made things fun.
Still baffled as to why they didn't just beam onto the transporter pad inside the ship.....
Ah yes nothing like an obnoxious crowed to ruin the experience for everyone
I was there, in '87, watching this in the theater, and yes they did clap at that point.
I remember when I saw Undiscovered Country in the theater in 1991 and people cheered when Kirk fired the homing torpedo. It was an experience that cannot be recreated. To see those types of movies in the theater with that many fans in the audience. And o yeah the entire theater was full back then.
It was the best goddamned hell of a Star Trek movie, ever! The Movie had an interesting plot idea and imho introduced the best looking version of the Enterprise, Khan was edge-of-your-seat adventure, but Voyage Home was pure, laughing joy. Son of The Trouble With Tribbles and A Piece Of The Action.
*Kirk:* What did you say she had?
*Bones:* Cramps.
I don't know why but that always cracks me up.
that's the joke. In the novel she got offended for a split second.
I can't remember if I have that kind of novel (I've been collecting ST pocketbooks, 200+ now, including the movies in pocketbook format).
"Immediate post-prandial upper-abdominal distentions"-a useful term to use to call in sick to work!
So a joke about cramps makes you laugh? In other words...
... It left you in stitches?
**RIMSHOT**
I'm here all week! Try the veal! 😁😁😎
@@jonnyb70 Yeah, Gilliian got offended because she thought McCoy was saying she had MENSTRUAL cramps.
I loved it when Kirk said to the doctor all right everybody into that little room. I was a hospital nurse for 38 years and I would’ve loved to usher some of the doctors into a little room and lock the door.
McCoy vs 20th century doctors is brilliant
Not to anybody who has an actual medical degree. Or whoever even has a modicum of understanding of modern medicine. Well, unless of course you mean the *comedic value* is brilliant. Any real doctor of the future would first of all offer his assistance in a professional manner and not act as if he was talking to cavemen who believe that magic amulets cure "evil spirits" or something along those lines.
@@McLarenMercedes Actually, I would disagree in this case. If you had the magic answer, and your son were about to be operated on by someone armed only with knowledge from about 400 years ago, would you let them? Absolutely not, and when they argue with you thinking that they are more knowledgable than you, I gaurantee you would not. The difference is akin to an 8th grade pre-algebra student argung theoretical mathematics with a professioor at Yale or Harvard.
McCoy, though, likely would have done as you suggest in a different venue. Prime Directive applies here, even to McCoy and he would have likely loved to interact in the way you suggest to understand, but time, circumstance and familiarity with the patient does not allow it. Moreover, McCoy's personality does not brook foolish arrogance.
@@meme9492 Couldn't have explained that better.
@@McLarenMercedes shut up
The little old lady, shes adorable 😂
I've always loved how Bones just stops to check on the old lady
It just shows that under the gruff exterior he really is a caring, compassionate man. In fact, his compassion is the very thing that makes him gruff: he gets impatient when people do not get the help they need.
@@andrewaustin9536 interesting is that in the episode "Mirror, Mirror", the mirror Spock states that McCoy "Has many human weaknesses, sentimental, soft", even in that violent universe. It proves that your medical priority comes above all else.
IMO this is one of the funniest scenes in the Star Trek movies. Hearing Bones criticizing 21st century medicine is priceless.
20th
To anyone studying to be a doctor , THIS is your role model : Dr. Leonard "Bones" Mccoy - he is never too busy to stop and help someone in need , he cares nothing for profit or glory ; his profit and glory is in knowing that he has helped someone ; that he has eased their pain and suffering ; that he has saved a life - please , future doctors , strive to be like him ; rise above this current generation of money loving fame coveting so called doctors - please , do better - and first , do no harm
Exactly 💯👍 drilling holes in our heads is not 🚫 the answer
I love Dr. Beverly Crusher because she's an excellent diagnostician. She taught me the importance of research since everything has a cause and thus can be treated or cured rather than simply dismissing patients and bandaging symptoms.
That and damn the Temporal Prime Directive when it comes to healing someone.
I had the same local doctor for almost 30 years, he passed away. His office is now gone. Don't trust any of the new "doctors"
@@frysause934 Well said
I remember watching this in the theater, and there was sincere laughter at McCoy's irascible mutterings about everyday 20th century medicine, and a moment of cheerful applause as they pass by the old lady and her freshly healed kidneys. It was obvious that where the beating heart of Trek was for that audience was in its sense of hope. That we can make things better.
This scene and the other scene with Scotty and Bones at the plexiglass company are pure Star Trek Gold
This is McCoy's finest hour in all of Star Trek.
Saving that old woman had to have been a violation of the prime directive.....but it was hilarious and worth it
How? Nobody in 1986 would have known how she suddenly had a fully functional kidney and it would have remained a mystery. From my recollection this prime directive only applies when they actually leave functional future technology in the past or something which helps a culture gain knowledge several years in advance. Besides, that old woman won't have any more kids and neither is she likely to do something which has a serious impact on future events. In fact her just gaining a fully functional kidney will just extend her life 5-10 years.
@@McLarenMercedes maybe she was supposed to die....but Mccoy saved her lol also Kirk's crew always violated the Prime directive
the prime directive vas not aplied on humans.
it's only violate the temporal prime directive but based on volyager nobody realy cares about that.
@@solyom8034 It's easier than that. People would have just disregarded unconfirmed cases like these as conspiracy theories
@@McLarenMercedes The Prime Directive applies ANYWHERE that current humanity would artificially alter a developing civilization. It's actually referenced in several TOS episodes and a few TNG ones.
4:08 i just can't stop laughing here XD
"What's going on here!?"
"Better you don’t know, just sleep!"
"Rank: Admiral" :)
Chekhov, we love you!! :)
Bless that actress who played the old woman...I remember seeing this at the show when it first came out...😁
"My favorite part of Star Trek IV was this scene!"
This kidney lady AND the transparent aluminum dude from an earlier scene may be the MVP's of the one-scene players in this movie. They sell the hell out of their reactions, making something farfetched seem SO believable!
Errr... just a heads up, Transparent Aluminum (or a variation of it, Aluminium Oxynitride) is now an actual real thing since around 2016.
Not so farfetched anymore... now for the kidney pill.
My favorite 2 scenes as well.
NOT NOW, MADELINE!!
@Gen They had been trialed in Chicago a few years earlier, and service reached San Francisco by 1985 but only a handful of people could afford them. Doctors did have pagers though.
@@NZBigfoot it will take me years to figure out the matrices alone on this equation. It's like 2016 he finally figured it. 8-)
DIALYSIS???? lololol This is BY FAR the best of the Star Trek movies!
I didn't know what dialysis was as a kid when the movie was new, but I have friends today who need it, and it is still very much hell to go through.
"One little mistake..."
That line is immortal!
0:14 "Doctor Dover. Doctor Ben Dover".
That was so adorable how the happy old lady was shouting that the doctor gave her a pill and she grew a new kidney lol
The happiness that woman exudes will always make me smile... Even if it's not actually real
ya that extra/actress really did a great job for a 3 second scene.
21st century medicine is crude & unsophisticated. Wish I could travel to Bones' time for some real healing.
It’s all relative. Look up Bloodletting, lobotomy, and Trepanning (literal drilling holes in head) in centuries past. A few hundred years from now it we’d treat chemotherapy, conventional anti retrovirals, and cytotoxic medications the same way
Dr. McCoy was a absolute riot in this scene.
My favourite of the ST theatrical films, bar none.
Clap my hands and jump for joy, I’ve got a clean bill of health from doctor McCoy
I can just imagine this is what Dr's 300 years from now would think regarding medicine today
I saw this movie in the theaters with my dad. Some of my best memories.
This hospital chase is comic gold!!! ❤😂🖖🏻
“Doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney!” Bless you Gene.
I've always loved that little old lady tickled pink about her new kidney. She's so thrilled and telling everyone she can! It's just so sweet.❤
There going to have that hospital on lockdown for a week looking for them! LOL
“What’s tha matter with YOU?” McCoy and his bedside manner.
Probably the best McCoy line "Extreme Upper Abdominal Postprandial Distention."
My mother passed away from kidney failure a few years ago, and I remember this scene fondly. Bones' character knew he could alleviate so much suffering with a single pill. Bones didn't give a hang whether it disturbed the timeline! 🙂
It is possible she didn't survive the Third World War though, so all is good in the timeline
My condolences on the death of your mother. We don't know what my mom died from because she had so many health problems, but kidney disease was a major factor in heard poor health. Unfortunately, I inherited it, and I'm down to one kidney. And now the remaining kidney is infected. I wish I had one of Dr. McCoy's pills. But at least the infection is clearing up.
Now this is real Star Trek. Fun, adventures, and smart writing that engages the viewers. Not the crap we are seeing now - Star Trek Discovery and Picard. I miss these old Trek.
Wokeism isn't meant to be engaging it's meant to liquify your brain. Best stick to the old stuff and throw out the Sticky Brown Shit
This isn't a strong endorsement, but the new series is so much better than discovery that it's actually kinda good.
@@JohnScott-JacobiteBee Yeah I agree, The Orville is really good
Still my favorite Star Trek movie!!!
Dr. McCoy: My God man! Drilling holes in his head is not the answer!
Me: if only more doctors thought like this!
Very creative.. Loved every moment
Wish we had doctors like McCoy!
The exchange between McCoy and the surgeon is one of my favourite McCoy moments.
Plus: "Sounds like the goddam Spanish Inquisition!"
Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition !!!
Sorry wrong movie.
I love McCoy so much. Even when they almost ran down that dude on crutches on their way to the elevator, he hung back and made sure he was okay. :-)
He's a doctor, not a schnook!
Put down your butcher knives! Evergreen moment
One of my favorite Trek movies...and one of my favorite scenes. THANK YOU!!!
Dr. Bones McCoy, The doctor that America’s healthcare needs, but doesn’t deserve. We need more doctors, nurses and surgeons that care as much as McCoy.
Oh how I remember that.
Star Trek IV is undeniably silly, but it has loads of fun moments like this and lets the actors play to the lighter side of their characters. Nice little touches like having Kirk call Chekov "Pavel", which was a very rare occurrence. And cranky Bones is always a treat, esp knowing how totally charming DeForrest Kelley was in real life.
Man I miss these movies.
I love Dr. McCoy. He just walks up and casually gives an old lady her life back!
"My God man! Drilling holes in his head isn't the answer!" The humor in this film was excellent! 👌
i watched this with my grandmother when she was in her final weeks.. when the old woman on the gurney was telling everyone that the doctor gave her a pill and shes got a new kidney made her laugh with glee such a touching scene and a great memory. lol
This is a great scene. Deforest did a great job
The Voyage Home is not considered the best written of the OG movies, but it is my favorite because of the humor.
I also love how Bones smiles a bit at 3:24. It's very brief, but it's there.
Nothing beats watching Chekhov try to look around in confusion only to have kirk push his head back down muttering “not now”
"Chekhov, Pavel...Admiral" huge smile.
"MY GOD MAN! Drilling HOLES in his head's not the answer!" My favorite McCoy line ever.
This is the McCoy I wish we had gotten all the time.
I have always been fond of this scene: McCoy, Kirk and the others' primary mission here is to save Chekov, but McCoy, ever the humanitarian, still finds time on the way to Chekov to save an old suffering woman from kidney dialysis with a "kidney pill", which transforms her life! LOVELY!
“One little mistake!”
That delivery was hilarious! Also, then beaming to the park was the one and only thing about this movie that bothered me. Why weren’t they beamed directly ON BOARD? I mean, besides that they needed the following scene of Gillian sneaking in to happen.
Headcanon: Scotty wasn't CERTAIN about the dilythium regeneration and the transporters just yet. They didn't show them transporting TO the hospital - only away. You COULD assume that Gillian DROVE them there in her truck while the power system repairs were wrapping up. First use of the transporters after the reboot. Scotty's taking NO CHANCES. He's SEEN what a malfunctioning transporter can do (ST:TMP) and wants NO part of it, especially with his friends lives on the line! To give himself a little extra "wiggle room" he transports them OUTSIDE the ship just to be on the safe side. He probably STILL wasn't happy he had to do the FIRST transport after the power system reboot with his friends in the beams. But hey - they don't call him the miracle worker for nothing!
Oh - and on top of all of that, these transporters are KLINGON. He's gotten to know them by now. But STILL...
@@logandarklighter not bad, although Kirk had previously beamed Gillian on board earlier without any hiccups, so im sure Scotty would be pretty confident.
I love Karl Urban as McCoy but he's not as good as D. Kelley, Deforest Kelley as McCoy has got to be one of the best casting choices ever
I read somewhere Deforest was given the option of being Spock or Dr McCoy, so Kelley kinda cast himself in the role. And he was perfect for it.
It's easier for him to be emotional, than become a robot... then looks for Data's ears if they're pointed.
(Just a Star Trek joke)
LOL 😂😂😂
Nobody beats the originals but out of them all Urban did a pretty good job of being McCoy
DeForest Kelley is....
The real McCoy!
😂😂😂😂
@@erichanastacio9695 😔
As McCoy approaches the old lady, the hospital is paging "Dr Dover, Dr Ben Dover" over the tannoy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love the way Sulu comes down the ramp to help Bones get Chekov onboard. Uhurah's reaction was never shown, but she was probably very relieved to see Chekov and hugged him and then he got settled in at his station.
That Dr's reaction and comments/ questions were spot realistic
I always find it funny that when McCoy uses his scanner to diagnose the problem the first thing the surgeon does is insult him by calling him a dentist 😂😂 2:01
Love the classical chase music.😄
I love the quick shot back to the doctors at 3:02. I mean they are genuinely concerned and locked in a closet but at the same time you can see them watching wondering "what is he doing?" I kind of wish they had a quick bit between Bones and the doctors where before they leave, the doctors yell at Bones begging to know what it was he did. Bones could have responded with a simple "Practiced medicine!" before knocking over another piece of equipment and leaving.
Its like a doctor from our time going back to the 1600s and looking at how medicine (if it could really be called that) was done back then. The horror and disbelief would be identical.
The thing is, they way they run around unmasked and ungloved is really much closer to medevilism than drilling open the skull (seriously, how does McCoy expect them to "fix the bleed" without accessing it? He is shown to be enough of a medical historian to know exactly what technology they did and didn't have). I realize they have sterile fields or whatever in the future, but McCoy, at least, should know the about Hospital Acquired Infections in that era and act accordingly.
upper abdominal distention post prandial just means bloating & stomach gas after a meal. sounded very professional, though.
“Dr. Dover, Dr. Ben Dover” 😂 Did anyone but me catch that? Lol, they really slipped that one in! 😂
I LOVE this movie, Live Long & Prosper
This whole scene was adorable. Laughed so much as a kid when I saw It
Crack me up when kirk says, " doctor....this is unprofessional behavior" And he has them at Phaser point ! ya gotta love Kirk !
THE MUSIC IS SO CHARMING. I SAW THIS WHEN I WAS 15 AT THE THEATER.
This scene hits harder after I lost my aunt in 2015 from Kidney Failure. She was on dialysis for so long. It was kind of a hopeful sentiment, seeing McCoy's reaction to Kidney dialysis being an archaic and brutal treatment.
This film, ST4, was the culmination of the great trilogy of TOS films (ST 2-4) After that they just were also rans!
Bringing the crew to present day earth was a wonderful change up, and gave us great comedic relief.
This scene really makes me wish we'd seen more of Dr. McCoy performing surgery like this during the show. :/
Fully functional?
Fully functional?
Fully functional!
I've spent a lot of time with renal patients and this bit was probably the most emotional.
DeForest was such a great character actor
My favorite Star Trek movie of all time!
Attaboy, Doc McCoy!
WHY DO they not give Karl Uban Dr mcoy scene like this?
I think his scene where he saves Spock's life in ST Beyond was a very 'Doctor McCoy' moment. The 'horseshit' scene.
Kellyn 87 hear hear
because they preferred to waste time making scenes for Uhura de Saldana.
I was there on opening night when this movie came out in the theaters, and I never noticed every viewing since that when the woman with a new kidney comes around the corner, her wheelchair runs over the nurse on the far left at 4:15.
Kirk called him "Pov". Aww!
“How’s the patient doctor?”
“He’s gonna make it”
“He?! You came in with a She!”
“One little mistake” 😆
That is Joe Lando playing that police officer
Fun fact: in the German sub he says "Sex change surgery" instead of "One little mistake" 😆
@@hinekde really? I think Shatner’s line is funnier in English XD
One of the Best Star Treks ever that didn’t involve Space 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dr. McCoy, The hero that American healthcare needs!