I noticed you were using "Armoured Targets" ammo belt for the soviet 20mm, is that what youd recommend for those against planes? Seems odd to me, but then again, since they nerfed the ammo belt composition of them Ive found those 20mms to be really unrealiable in dealing damage.
There is a real scarcity of good learner’s guide after Longsh0t stopped uploading. Good to see someone making beginners guides like his that’s up to date.
I love-hate how much situational dogfighting is: you could be the best pilot in the world, but if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're dead.
That's exactly what it was like in the War, just as Tanks were situational too most of the time, coming down to who fired first, and unless it was a light tank vs a heavy tank, most projectiles during the war were enough to one shot most tanks, even Tigers
I was like a schoolkid learning something new, and I've been playing since 2013 (and I thought I knew what E-Fighting was). Totally on a different level of understanding. Thanks Defyn
As a noob, my biggest mistake was generalizing planes too much. It wasn't until I finally played enough to where I was familiar with most planes that I started to get better. Not all Fw 190's are the same, nor are all Spitfires. In general, Spitfires turn much better than a 190, and 190's are generally much faster. But at certain BR's this is not always true. Assuming because I was in a Fw 190, I could outrun any Spitfire and assuming because I was a Spitfire, I could out turn a 190 were the cause for many a death before I started memorizing stats of planes in more detail. Also, Gaijin stat cards don't mean shit. Just because your plane SHOULD be 20kph faster than the plane chasing you, it doesn't mean that it actually is. Not to mention, if your plane is spaded and the enemy isn't, or vice versa, plane stats don't really mean a thing.
insightful! the other day I saw a Japanese plane high altitude, I didn't recognize the planes name. I thought well I won't try to out turn it, but my plane has excellent engine power, I'll try for an energy trap. the trap lasted a few turns, and he was slowly gaining more energy than me! after dying and googling it, the wiki reads "unlike most Japanese planes, this is not a turn fighter, but must use its excellent thrust to weight ratio for energy fights. what a face palm😂😂
When I saw this video I realized I was doing more or less the same things you do instinctively! but I did them wrong. *Now I can do them right.* Thank you!
@@DEFYN Yep, thanks! Now after this August at the village I'mma go back to war thunder and lose all matches despite starting with a Chaika and yelling ZERO OP when I fight Japanese with my Yak 9u
DEFYN It still has a high winrate and is almost unstoppable against Russian Aircraft excluding the I-225, I-185s and one other, (I don’t know what the last one is, I tried to look it up on the wiki and got no answers).
just installed the game recently and was mind blown on how good these tactics work. all i did was spiral until i eventually get shot down. Thankyou! i will be practicing these
Your guides helped me to improve as a pilot a lot in just a couple of days! I definitely found way more success fighting with energy in mind, i even just stalled someone for the first time and gunned them down! It felt like such a thrill, my adrenaline is still going crazy! Now i see why people like planes so much, it's hella fun, when you know what you are doing, so huge thanks for making those guides, i just might start to truly enjoy and appreciate planes because of you :)
Oh man, i can't thank you enough. Although I'm at over 1400 hours of War Thunder i still feel like i'm in the learning phase. I think my and actually most peoples problem is that "we" play too kill-thirsty. We'd rather dogfight a plane we can't outurn just because of energy loss than play smart and maybe pass on a kill. Extremely helpful, keep it up!
Hurried through the tutorials and thought I was decent, but after watching this, my tactics completely changed and I got so many more kills. Came back just to say that
I notice in game, at least as a new player, there is an idea that some planes are energy fighters and others are not. This video helps clean that up and shows that all fighting is energy fighting. Good job, excellent video. Have fun and keep improving 😉
The first match i applied these tips i got 4 kills, and knew what too do when an enemy comes head on. Knowing what to do with energy is as important as having it. Your tips are much appreciated
Thanks so much for this video. I have been "flying" sims for over 30 years, but this is really good and useful info, it's something I have rarely done, specially in War Thunder, maybe because of the grind, you try to go to get something even if you lose instead of trying to win and end up empty handed.
This is probably the best form of instructional guide I have seen for Air. The graphical simplifications backed by real-world examples really made the points much more clear and evident to me. At least for me, this was better than just the typical "1 vs 12 ACE Carry kIlLeR Plane" videos that are more common for the game. Now if only I can break a lot of my bad habits that you pointed out for me. Much appreciated.
I must say, the level of English here is amazing. Of course you can still tell that he's from Holland, but I'm really impressed because it's not the standard Dutch-English. Good job mate!
Very informative vid. I am amazed that despite all the stuff out there people still like to do them silly spiral chases. Although I like when they do lol. For me, you can skip on animations. Very good skills on your part, I couldnt do em myself, but as u said takes a lot of time and effort. Very good stuff and keep em coming, specially in regard to US tree line, since they dont retain speed in verticals that well. Thx for your work dutchman!!!!
As much as I like to meme you. I really do hope people watch this and try and learn something. I hate seeing people at all BR ranges play so poorly when it comes to air combat. well done.
ahahaha.... the mushroom cloud at the headon..... brilliant. Also, happens a lot. Like, all the time. This is extremely valuable information... thanks mate!
Finally I found a guide on how to fight properly, I've been looking and searching for a guide and stumbled upon this by accident just today. Thanks a lot for this well-explained video :)
I feel like every pilot I go against plays like you and my team plays like the players you kill, most games typically end with me and one other teamate left with 5 enemies who refuse to split up from eachother and if they do they often just use their spawn aa's as much as possible
It's insane how much there is to this compared to ground or naval which is pretty damn simple. I just hope I can apply this to myself with my current yak-3
You should maybe do a smaller quide on clibing, that could include the following: the importance of climbing (even though it is mentioned right here), how to climb in props, should you side climb and if so by how much, what are the differences of climbing in a jet rather than a prop and that at what speed should you climb.
This video and the examples are super helpful! I must’ve watched them 5 times already in the past 2 days. Could you make a video similar to this, but applying book and zoom tactics? I seem to struggle picking the right target as I dive too low for one and pull up too sharply.
Your regular vids are really instructional and this is even more. I notice one thing you never lose control because of blackout. I am sure this not just due to crew but on how you fly and this would be very interesting. I lose my targets and dogfights because i blackout
ur the goat. id like to thank you for guiding me to improve my gameplay. as a console player i rarely got a single kill, but with your help and some button bind changes i pull 2-4 kils regually. keep the amazing content going
Loves these videos in this playlist the most. Would love an updated version of your first video about what are the best premium planes to buy and talismans. I watched it while looking atthe current tech trees. Meta, BRs & many new planes really call for a new video! Love this in depth guides. Keep it up!
Geez this is way more complicated than I thought, I've been tailing enemies and shooting at them like I'm in a Star Wars game, in the 2017 Battlefront 2 I was 15th in the entire world on the leaderboards for Spaceship assault and couldn't understand why I sucked so bad at War Thunder by comparison, but now I see that directly following an enemy isn't the best thing to do, it's gonna take some getting used to but I love German planes from WWII (NOT THE GERMAN MENTALITY OR BELIEFS from WWII before anyone calls me a Yahtzee) and knowing they're the purest energy fighters, well I'm more than willing to learn and master it
Holy shit. I'm improving! Thank you so much for this series. I'm so happy right now. I'm getting about a kill and an assist per game, which is a lot better than not knowing what the fuck I'm doing and getting clapped instantly.
I'm a tanker and play Planes very rarely and mostly in arcade but despite having low interest into Flying for sure ill give a like and sub for the good work.
Thank You It may take some Time and Practice to Apply your Teaching in the Actual Gameplay but it Really Help a Lot Thanks for Doing a Lot of Effort Making this Videos
you just barely touched on it, but i was hoping you would go into detail on how to use horizontal energy retention. it's HUGE for being able to use US planes effectively, and is probably the number one reason why allied teams suffer so much, as it isn't immediately apparent how to use it to your advantage. for anyone who doesn't know, if you are in a heavy plane with a fast top speed like a p51 or a p47 and have an enemy behind you with the energy advantage, you can dive to equalize your energy states and use your superior high speed handling to avoid their shots, and then when you build up an excess of speed you can level out and begin a shallow climb to use your superior energy retention to bleed the enemy's energy, and you will be able to convert your energy into altitude more efficiently than the enemy if they follow your climb. a smart enemy in a plane that climbs well, like a 109, will probably follow you in a steeper climb to convert their excess speed into altitude more efficiently but will still lose more energy than you do. this makes the enemy an easy target for teammates, and any team of US planes who understands how to do this dominates.
Different kind of fighting, will cover in the future. I almost put it in here but I want to group it with something else, I hinted at it here. Video was dragging on and the other thing won't be that long
8:04 FU-4B. Okay :D Now tell me what B stands for ^^ Kidding aside, thanks. Not necessarily for me, but still hope I will eventually see more competent opponents because of good educational content like this.
Nice video Defyn, I even think your video more understandable than longshot video, but also sad that almost every A7M pilot almost fight like in 16:42 scene v:
Great video. I am new to the game and have energy fought by accident in the P-36 and Gladiator II, but whenever I do it on purpose I screw up. Now I have some idea of how to get it right.
nice. what about when you are a 109 and the spitfire has absolutely limitless energy. You start climbing away and it just climbs climbs climbs until it kills you and you throw your keyboard across the room?
More examples: th-cam.com/video/w4GJZWCe_YY/w-d-xo.html
You're a legend.
I noticed you were using "Armoured Targets" ammo belt for the soviet 20mm, is that what youd recommend for those against planes?
Seems odd to me, but then again, since they nerfed the ammo belt composition of them Ive found those 20mms to be really unrealiable in dealing damage.
@@sgt_kissekatt6686 back then yes
Now tracers are better again for shvaks
@@DEFYN Will keep that in mind and try it, thanks!
5:57 summarizes the entirety of low tier engagements.
unless one of the players is a level 100 marshal
@@kajetus0688 Level is irrelevant tbh, premium makes it faster for example.
Also, tanks and ships exist.
@@silience4095 you forgot about getting uptiered and not being able to pen anything while getting penned by everyone
@@kajetus0688 no one the 5.3 jumbo w a 75 mil gun : hey that’s me
Ikr
There is a real scarcity of good learner’s guide after Longsh0t stopped uploading. Good to see someone making beginners guides like his that’s up to date.
There is not a such thing like "up do date" in the bfm tactics.
@@JG27Korny exactly. Tactics will ever be the same, only planes performances will change due to Gaijin´s nerf and buff hammer.
long5hot's guide is pretty much enough to understand everything in props.
@@imperialenforcer2271 2 bad its arcade tho
I miss him bro he was great
I love-hate how much situational dogfighting is: you could be the best pilot in the world, but if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're dead.
That’s life.
That's exactly what it was like in the War, just as Tanks were situational too most of the time, coming down to who fired first, and unless it was a light tank vs a heavy tank, most projectiles during the war were enough to one shot most tanks, even Tigers
Good guy Defyn postpones his own death just to deliver
Nah, he’d win
I was like a schoolkid learning something new, and I've been playing since 2013 (and I thought I knew what E-Fighting was). Totally on a different level of understanding. Thanks Defyn
Same here I sucked before I watched this
As a noob, my biggest mistake was generalizing planes too much. It wasn't until I finally played enough to where I was familiar with most planes that I started to get better.
Not all Fw 190's are the same, nor are all Spitfires. In general, Spitfires turn much better than a 190, and 190's are generally much faster. But at certain BR's this is not always true. Assuming because I was in a Fw 190, I could outrun any Spitfire and assuming because I was a Spitfire, I could out turn a 190 were the cause for many a death before I started memorizing stats of planes in more detail.
Also, Gaijin stat cards don't mean shit. Just because your plane SHOULD be 20kph faster than the plane chasing you, it doesn't mean that it actually is. Not to mention, if your plane is spaded and the enemy isn't, or vice versa, plane stats don't really mean a thing.
insightful! the other day I saw a Japanese plane high altitude, I didn't recognize the planes name. I thought well I won't try to out turn it, but my plane has excellent engine power, I'll try for an energy trap. the trap lasted a few turns, and he was slowly gaining more energy than me! after dying and googling it, the wiki reads "unlike most Japanese planes, this is not a turn fighter, but must use its excellent thrust to weight ratio for energy fights. what a face palm😂😂
@@billrobert3226my guess is it was a j2m2
Just wanna say this 3 guides not only made me go back/properly start playing air realistic it also made start enjoying it again, thanks a lot
Good cover of the basics, showing different outcomes. Classy animations ;P
12:36 Theory on why reversals work.
Hi Adam. How are you?
@@mpk6664 Good you?
Oh hi adam :D
@@AdamTheEnginerd Pretty decent :)
I was climbing in my k-4 and watching this video. Right after I baited an enemy I pulled off an energy trap the way you did. Thanks for the guide!
K4 is my favorite
When I saw this video I realized I was doing more or less the same things you do instinctively! but I did them wrong.
*Now I can do them right.*
Thank you!
Good to hear :^)
@@DEFYN Yep, thanks! Now after this August at the village I'mma go back to war thunder and lose all matches despite starting with a Chaika and yelling ZERO OP when I fight Japanese with my Yak 9u
Rico It’s not the zero that’s OP, it’s the Reppu lol
Meh the reppu got nerfed quite hard a bit ago
DEFYN It still has a high winrate and is almost unstoppable against Russian Aircraft excluding the I-225, I-185s and one other, (I don’t know what the last one is, I tried to look it up on the wiki and got no answers).
i watch these kinda videos 8 times over like i will retain any of the info. its so fucking hard
just installed the game recently and was mind blown on how good these tactics work. all i did was spiral until i eventually get shot down. Thankyou! i will be practicing these
still playing after 2 years
Your guides helped me to improve as a pilot a lot in just a couple of days! I definitely found way more success fighting with energy in mind, i even just stalled someone for the first time and gunned them down! It felt like such a thrill, my adrenaline is still going crazy! Now i see why people like planes so much, it's hella fun, when you know what you are doing, so huge thanks for making those guides, i just might start to truly enjoy and appreciate planes because of you :)
Being a newb, I'm seeing nearly every mistake I've made from the perspective of those who murked me... learned a lot.
Did you ever get really good at War Thunder?
These learner guides are great, I really struggle with judging enemy planes energy and often die because I misjudge energy levels.
Oh man, i can't thank you enough. Although I'm at over 1400 hours of War Thunder i still feel like i'm in the learning phase. I think my and actually most peoples problem is that "we" play too kill-thirsty. We'd rather dogfight a plane we can't outurn just because of energy loss than play smart and maybe pass on a kill. Extremely helpful, keep it up!
Hurried through the tutorials and thought I was decent, but after watching this, my tactics completely changed and I got so many more kills. Came back just to say that
I love these how-to's. Been playing for years and I still desperately need these.
I notice in game, at least as a new player, there is an idea that some planes are energy fighters and others are not. This video helps clean that up and shows that all fighting is energy fighting. Good job, excellent video. Have fun and keep improving 😉
The first match i applied these tips i got 4 kills, and knew what too do when an enemy comes head on. Knowing what to do with energy is as important as having it. Your tips are much appreciated
Very good video for those in matches who definitely need to learn this. It helps with the betterment of the entire community.
Thank you for teaching me how to fly Dolphin!
fish noises
@@DEFYN xD
@@DEFYN did you just call a dolphin a fish
They're fish just like sharks are mammals isn't that right @dreamtree
Thanks so much for this video. I have been "flying" sims for over 30 years, but this is really good and useful info, it's something I have rarely done, specially in War Thunder, maybe because of the grind, you try to go to get something even if you lose instead of trying to win and end up empty handed.
Just wanted to say thanks. Watching your videos has completely changed the game for me.
This is probably the best form of instructional guide I have seen for Air. The graphical simplifications backed by real-world examples really made the points much more clear and evident to me. At least for me, this was better than just the typical "1 vs 12 ACE Carry kIlLeR Plane" videos that are more common for the game. Now if only I can break a lot of my bad habits that you pointed out for me. Much appreciated.
Yeah definately do more of those examples. That would be absolutely great!
I must say, the level of English here is amazing. Of course you can still tell that he's from Holland, but I'm really impressed because it's not the standard Dutch-English. Good job mate!
Very informative vid. I am amazed that despite all the stuff out there people still like to do them silly spiral chases. Although I like when they do lol. For me, you can skip on animations. Very good skills on your part, I couldnt do em myself, but as u said takes a lot of time and effort. Very good stuff and keep em coming, specially in regard to US tree line, since they dont retain speed in verticals that well. Thx for your work dutchman!!!!
As much as I like to meme you. I really do hope people watch this and try and learn something. I hate seeing people at all BR ranges play so poorly when it comes to air combat. well done.
ahahaha.... the mushroom cloud at the headon..... brilliant. Also, happens a lot. Like, all the time. This is extremely valuable information... thanks mate!
13:49 Hey look thats me
Lol nice
Just getting into air gameplay after 900 hours of ground, this is very helpful thank you
This is the earliest ive been on any video
Thanks for teaching me how to fly. Now I feel like performing differently everytime I go into combat. Kudos
Love these videos Defyn. I hope you make more, maybe showcasing more advanced and niche manuevers. Would be awesome to watch. Love your content.
This video was super helpful took my game from noob to pro in like 4 hours
Finally I found a guide on how to fight properly, I've been looking and searching for a guide and stumbled upon this by accident just today. Thanks a lot for this well-explained video :)
Thank you for your tips, It helped me get a lot better at the game, im now much more confident in fighting more maneuverable planes.
I really needed a video like this thx defyn i respect the amount of effort you put on these videos
Thanks )
And here I am 2 years later getting a refresher!
Appreciate you putting the imperial info in the video!
I feel like every pilot I go against plays like you and my team plays like the players you kill, most games typically end with me and one other teamate left with 5 enemies who refuse to split up from eachother and if they do they often just use their spawn aa's as much as possible
It's insane how much there is to this compared to ground or naval which is pretty damn simple. I just hope I can apply this to myself with my current yak-3
You should maybe do a smaller quide on clibing, that could include the following: the importance of climbing (even though it is mentioned right here), how to climb in props, should you side climb and if so by how much, what are the differences of climbing in a jet rather than a prop and that at what speed should you climb.
I will in the future
Saw you in a Match and checked your Account because someone recognized you. Good tutorials! Keep up the good work!
I have over 2 days in fighters but I played pretty casually and this is still definitely useful!
4 years late but this is amazing, it helps a lot
This video and the examples are super helpful! I must’ve watched them 5 times already in the past 2 days. Could you make a video similar to this, but applying book and zoom tactics? I seem to struggle picking the right target as I dive too low for one and pull up too sharply.
i wonder who the hell would dislike a well-made tutorial on air tactics?
Dude thank you so much for this video! I now have a few more tricks in my pocket to fly the P-47 to its full potential
The best video and the best teacher. Thank you, you are making me enjoy the game!
Your regular vids are really instructional and this is even more. I notice one thing you never lose control because of blackout. I am sure this not just due to crew but on how you fly and this would be very interesting. I lose my targets and dogfights because i blackout
Very good video. That showcase at 15 minutes in is very reminiscent of ye olde magz energy video. Good stuff.
Well I basically ripped it off lmao
I only just recently started playing the game and your videos are very helpful. Thank you
2-3 years later, still helpful !!!
ur the goat. id like to thank you for guiding me to improve my gameplay. as a console player i rarely got a single kill, but with your help and some button bind changes i pull 2-4 kils regually. keep the amazing content going
That's what they're for )
Thanks
Loves these videos in this playlist the most.
Would love an updated version of your first video about what are the best premium planes to buy and talismans. I watched it while looking atthe current tech trees.
Meta, BRs & many new planes really call for a new video!
Love this in depth guides. Keep it up!
Geez this is way more complicated than I thought, I've been tailing enemies and shooting at them like I'm in a Star Wars game, in the 2017 Battlefront 2 I was 15th in the entire world on the leaderboards for Spaceship assault and couldn't understand why I sucked so bad at War Thunder by comparison, but now I see that directly following an enemy isn't the best thing to do, it's gonna take some getting used to but I love German planes from WWII (NOT THE GERMAN MENTALITY OR BELIEFS from WWII before anyone calls me a Yahtzee) and knowing they're the purest energy fighters, well I'm more than willing to learn and master it
Appreciate the time and effort you put into this.
Holy shit. I'm improving! Thank you so much for this series. I'm so happy right now. I'm getting about a kill and an assist per game, which is a lot better than not knowing what the fuck I'm doing and getting clapped instantly.
8 months later and i've completely lost it
I'm a tanker and play Planes very rarely and mostly in arcade but despite having low interest into Flying for sure ill give a like and sub for the good work.
another great explanatory video, defy!
especially loved your chicken scratching!
heh
Great video! Will try some of these, thanks!
Thank You It may take some Time and Practice to Apply your Teaching in the Actual Gameplay but it Really Help a Lot Thanks for Doing a Lot of Effort Making this Videos
I used to hate planes but getting taking out revenge CAS is so so satisfying
you just barely touched on it, but i was hoping you would go into detail on how to use horizontal energy retention. it's HUGE for being able to use US planes effectively, and is probably the number one reason why allied teams suffer so much, as it isn't immediately apparent how to use it to your advantage. for anyone who doesn't know, if you are in a heavy plane with a fast top speed like a p51 or a p47 and have an enemy behind you with the energy advantage, you can dive to equalize your energy states and use your superior high speed handling to avoid their shots, and then when you build up an excess of speed you can level out and begin a shallow climb to use your superior energy retention to bleed the enemy's energy, and you will be able to convert your energy into altitude more efficiently than the enemy if they follow your climb. a smart enemy in a plane that climbs well, like a 109, will probably follow you in a steeper climb to convert their excess speed into altitude more efficiently but will still lose more energy than you do. this makes the enemy an easy target for teammates, and any team of US planes who understands how to do this dominates.
Different kind of fighting, will cover in the future. I almost put it in here but I want to group it with something else, I hinted at it here. Video was dragging on and the other thing won't be that long
I've watched this video like 7 times now
8:04 FU-4B. Okay :D Now tell me what B stands for ^^
Kidding aside, thanks. Not necessarily for me, but still hope I will eventually see more competent opponents because of good educational content like this.
It stands for "better".
Wow i fight good but i was totaly fighting with my instinct and hope it work, i suscribed to you ! I have a lot of learn
Any spitfire have been bully during this video
Nice video Defyn, I even think your video more understandable than longshot video, but also sad that almost every A7M pilot almost fight like in 16:42 scene v:
its looks soo nice +easy and i need lot of training, thx 4 helping,thats mak the game better. greetz+like
Well done sir, I enjoy your videos, and I have learned a lot from them, which made me a better airRB player.
How Long did it take you to make this... massive props to you for this video.
too long
fancy seeing you here
Thot Cop I’m always here :)
Great video. I am new to the game and have energy fought by accident in the P-36 and Gladiator II, but whenever I do it on purpose I screw up. Now I have some idea of how to get it right.
you are the one of the helpfull channel i have ever seen
Great video man, keep it up!
That Mikoyan killing the Reppu was BLYATIFUL COMRADE)))))))
Good stuff dude. Thanks for the informative video.
You are amazing my friend.
This is excellent, thank you.
Warthunder. The only game where beginners guides requires a physics degree
Such a good video helped a lot and nice accent
thank you so much:) very nice video, i can see you put a lot of effort in it:) keep it up!
Awesome, Loving these videos!
I definitely need this to learn the difficult 109s
How tf are they difficult? Their the easiest plane to use dude
Bring a casual gamer and stepping into this is kinda frightning
Very eye opening stuff, great job :)
Time to practice the lesson...
3 minute of climbing suddenly return to hangar XD
great content man, thanks for some 2020 stuff
My teammates like to do 5:50 when I'm on the 6 of the spitfire, shooting me down too.
Yes please, more examples with commentary. It seems helpful, although I’m not sure I’m good enough to take advantage :D.
Dude this content is great and well made.
Thank you so much for your guides.
10:30 you gonna die gave me a entire years worth of an workouts
Any guide helps improve game . Thank u
Love these!. Would love some more!
This game is most better than IL-2 GB!, good video
nice. what about when you are a 109 and the spitfire has absolutely limitless energy. You start climbing away and it just climbs climbs climbs until it kills you and you throw your keyboard across the room?