Been really busy with the holidays but managed to throw this together. I'll be making a video on all of the Abrams drama after I do a bit more digging.
@flareamv5503 It hasn't been nerfed to shit. Sure it's not the best like the 2A7 however there is something to be said as far as whatever team Russia is on in ground typically wins. America has decent vehicles, however Russia has a very strong lineup, overpowered helicopters and the pantsir, and while America has the stronger CAS it can't do shit with the type of AA Russia has.
Gaijin would have given T-90M its thermal blanket but unfortunately since challenger 2F and TES also have them, that would mean buffing british tanks and that is absolutely unacceptable
After seeing the community response to them trying to sneak spall liners to only the T-90M, I don’t think they’ll try adding anything that NATO uses period from here on lmao. Regenerative steering will never be coming 😭😭
@@jimmydesouza4375 Im not an expert so take what I say with a grain of salt. It's basically the tank's ability to keep power to both tracks while both are still moving at different speeds. Instead of the inner track completely stopping to make a turn, it just rotates slower and the excess power is diverted to the outer track to rotate it faster. This allows the tank to actually turn much more smoothly while still moving forward and retaining speed, instead of the inner track just locking up and killing the ground speed so you pivot on it. Biggest thing to note is that NATO tanks have it, and specifically Russian tanks don't. That is the entire reason it's not in the game, even though it was present on tanks manufactured over 70 years ago lmao. They will never add something that isn't a pure unfair advantage to... a "certain nation"... as evidenced by spall liners. They have been present on Nato tanks since the Leopard 2a4 for example. Only added now because the first Russian tank that has it finally got added, so the rest of us are finally allowed to have it.
@@DaBoss5 I don't think so, I think he just has munition names disabled for the killfeed. Sabot can only do a little damage within 100m now after the Kings of Battle post-update nerf.
I always love the M47 Patton. But honestly can't help one thing: sometimes calling it a King Tiger, because I got to know the M47 from "Battle of the Bulge" (I freaking love that movie, and you can't change my mind)
as someone watching top tier and never had the chance to play it ; it looks quiet sad because most shoots are instakill and you most of the time have 0 chance to react because angle etc doesnt work against 400mm pen
@@manyfailspretty much you just have to suffer thru it and sometimes you get lucky and get 4 or 5 kills i play on a controller on pc imagine how.much that sucks lol my back is too messed up to lean forward and use a keyboard until i get a better setu0
Fix your reverse speed and lower hull armour hull, including some apcbc rounds instead of ap variation, then you got the right to talk in war thunder 😂
@TheRussian_Main War Thunder players when militaries have different doctrines and didn’t all make heavy tanks with fat APHE shells and enough armor to make a CATTB weep:
Spookston: Constantly refers to the enemy team as "bad guys" Also Spookston: "I think I'm just going to sit here comfortably and watch you burn. It may be cruel, but is the most logical thing to do."
I'd like to see the Sturer Emil sometime soon, the long 128 is absolutely devastating and the gun depression is what makes it so annoying to go up against.
@Shinshocks555 You didn't answer the question. You've showered me with thesises. Karusêlj is the only option of making a truly small, lightweight tank with a large bore gun. I don't need your long posts about storing ammo in turret, since by the design it causes bigger amount of internal volume, which is "armoured air", and it is very heavy, and your method exposes the ammunition while being in a firing position, since the enemy sees the turret first. Shorter BOPS(sorry for using a sub-language, I know it's"armour piercing discarding Netherlandian boot stabilized by fish fins") of this tank is a natural limitation and a reminder that this is a tank - a self propelled artillery installation with some protection. Which can do direct and indirect fire. And which was invented as a breakthrough instrument, not as idiotic apogee of "tank v tank combat": tank which is designed to fight other tanks and pee with 0,30" coaxial machine gun on all other targets. Lower profile argument is the highest layer of the onion. If in your works infantry doesn't exist, and the only thing you do is "not being hit" because "not being acquired as a target" because "not being seen" because "not being there" because "i still fight only Saharan tribesman, not other guys I call 'people' without hypocrisy" you are truly a genius, and I i advise you to advert your tanks by reminding everybody how badly Sovêt design school showed itself in fighting against top-strike ATGM. Because yours tanks! They are extremely good, see the 5 points list! I am surprised you didn't tell me about anti RPG, high arc of fire artillery, and drone cages are "coupe cages" that are designed to seethe the bad zoobhoomen by allegedly protecting them against Javelin and NLAW.
@Shinshocks555 uhh 2 abrams out of 5 ammo got detonated and the 3rd abrams crew d*es after t72-b2 atgm hit in their 20th day of deployment in avdifk lol and russian t90m got hit by 3 drones and 2 bradleys and crew survived lol.
SEP also has it, stupid addition. They even said M829A3 wouldn't provide any improvements in shooting to soviet tanks XD pointless to grind it right now
M829A3? Very poor round. Look this new Russian round not good against ERA, why would American round be))) Also Stinger must suck because IGLA suck. (They very much said this.)
10:10 fun fact: while not related to the T-90m, the American CROWS system can have a lock on it switched off and manually fired from on top of the vehicle
cuz the 122 ratio to russian tanks it's like 11:1 lol, it's better, but to be oppresive it needs to have people playing it, and the sweden grind is horrid
Most people don't play Sweden. I know a few who do and will actively say it's broken, but they're aren't enough people who play it. The reason you see more drama around Russia and the U.S tanks/planes is because a majority of the community plays in those trees. I guarantee if Gajin out the American tanks in proper, they'd get as much flak as the T-90M.
This is unrelated, but I think it'd be cool if they experimented with the "Hull break" mechanic again, but instead of it working like overpressure, it works differently. It would be there to prevent AA trucks or armored cars from tanking 122mm shells when hit in the engine or something because no matter how good of a mechanic you have or how ever many spare parts you got, you just ain't repairing that big of a hole in your car. It might be a hot take but I dislike the idea of light vehicles walking off like 152-155mm AP shells so casually like they just didn't get hit at all.
What you haven't just filled that hole in your engine with flex seal or duct tape? Works like a charm. After all they say it fixes everything. The problem is that Gajin will never add it back because they don't know how to balance the game.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 I am literally just now playing the game and volumetric messed up 3 of my shells in the mantlet of a panther. So yes, they do not know how to balance or fix their own game.
@@exoticdachoo007 Volumetric borked many of things. I may not have liked the idea of a Stuart pixel sniping a Maus. Though it was far better than what we have now.
They should add something like "hull break" to aircraft when getting hit by large rounds. A helicopter should not *EVER* survive a direct hit from 120mm HEAT-FS
@aiedenoldstien9751 it might be found in rocks or closely to a rock but it isn't a rock. It's a freaking metal and metals have vastly different physical, thermal and chemical properties compared to rocks. Get your facts straight before spreading misinformation
T-34E-STZ is a sleeper tank. It has increased frontal armor and will bounce panzer IV rounds when angled. With the 96 pen round really never leaves you feeling weak. Dropped a 20 kill game with it. You should definitely give it a try.
@Optimusprime56241 only the C has the spall liner, considering its the same br as the 2s38 it definitely needed a spall liner but after playing it it doesn't make much of a difference
The remote MG has it's ironsights because it can be dismounted and used like the infantry version, pretty sure they store the bipod and butt stock for it somewhere in the tank like they do for coax PKTs. If a thing can be designed to perform multiple tasks, it will, basically the russian engineering dogma.
The eyes thing is something dating back to the first world war, and is an insignia on one of the RTR squadrons. Supposedly it's because a Chinese(?) buisnessman financed either one of a few of a Tank Corps companies tanks but gave a notably odd request to have eyes painted on the side to ward off bad omens and spirits.
That F-16 kill with an apfsds was impressive. I wonder whether the main penetrator or the sabot petals hit him. This also made me wonder that combining an apfsds round with a canister shot would be viable or not. Here I mean to replace the sabot petals with a sabot that doubles as a canister, containing metal balls. Such a sabot canister hybrid should not degrade the performance of an apfsds penetrator much.
Real sabot open up and fall away at no more than 100m. Real sabot also has minimized mass. Mainly because energy not going into pushing the rod are not contributing to making enemy going boom. The newest sabot design is not even metal anymore. Iirc, it is sort of composite mix, to minimized the weight.
@@aussiemilitant4486 Yes, but those are dedicated anti-personnel rounds. Similarly, the US army developed a dedicated anti-personnel canister round for the M1 Abrams. My idea is to have an apfsds round that is optimised for anti-tank purposes, but also has a secondary close range anti-personnel effect in case of emergency. The point here is to have such a canister sabot that does not impede the performance of the main penetrator compared to the regular petal sabots. The canister sabot does not even needs to be heavier then the petals simply because infantry are soft targets. Even ceramic or plastic pellets would have a deadly effect with propellant quantity of an apfsds round.
When people were mocking 'cope cages' for their inability to stop Javelins and now that they actually have a use, blocking drone-dropped grenades/bomblets, the name became somewhat silly.
The "cage" part of the "cope cage" is the critical element. Many improvised covers shown early in the war were slapped right above key hatches and blocking already limited visibility. Soldiers wised up on this - now they are equally dirt cheap and slapdash, but spaced so far away from the tank it's more like a cope tent than a cope cage, making the vehicle visible from a mile away. The new type are the ones you see getting hit by drones the most since the loss in discretion far outweighs any gain in protection.
Spookston: I always get CAS'ed Also spookston: Get out of here! *snipes an F-16C with apfsds* (He is starting to understand the ballistics of CAS and CAP because of how many times he has gotten CAS'ed)
From what I've noticed blast doors work ONLY if you penetrate them, like if you shoot abrams ammo from a side without piercing blast doors tank will explode but when you pierce blast doors and damage ammo from the front of the turret only ammo dissapears nothing more happens XD
The main issue with top tier imo, and the reason it so quickly devolves into spawn camping is that gaijin refuses to give us maps bigger than 2km by 2km. They have them, they just refuse to put them into rotation, and they constantly take out any bump that even hints at taking long range shots.
Bro, today i got one of the sand maps(Tunisia i think) but a beefed up version, for all of my 7 years playing i have never seen that big of a version of that exact map, i got one 2.4 and two 2.8km kills and it was fucking amazing , told the boys in chat how much i liked big maps for top tier but many of em said the complete opposite, idk why people are like this....
3:50 Fun Fact. Spook killed a Challenger 2 while saying "desert storm". But Challenger 2 wasn't used during DS because it didn't exist yet. The Challenger 2 entered service in 1998, desert storm began in 1990.
Oh, you think you're suffering in your F-5C? Decent speed, good manoeuvrability and flares. And premium bonuses. I look behind me in my Su-22 and I see 6 F-5c players, so you're not one to complain about that, meanwhile I have 6 flares and 6 chaff, can't turn for shit!
@@arcroyal1258agreed, i used tbe f5c to grind out most of rank 7, and its an insane fighter. it does suffer vs mig21’s, but thats probably more on me not choosing my fights too well lol. ive won many a dogfight vs f14’s a few months ago
@@arcroyal1258The people who complain it's bad because it has "bad missiles" are just bad. They are okay and they aren't really bad for a 10.3 . People seem to forget it isn't a super high BR to have stupidly strong missiles but honestly it doesn't need them to do well even in an uptier. The plane is so handheld in its flight model but it is a lot of fun. It's consistent but the teams are ROUGH lmao
@@notsoracistraspberry4168 I disagree, aim-9es appear to have a very narrow seeker head. If played with and against them and If you just pull hard you can evade, and most aircraft have flares at 10.3. it's not too bad, but there are a lot better. But yeah teams are hell lmao
I love how when i make those same shots, in the same areas, with similar ammo, nothing happens. But this guy and other TH-camrs just get back to back one tap kills.
Recently, I researched the Conway. It is the one tank I have played that at stock was very good, barring lack of spare parts of course. Can you take a look at the British 7.0 Conway? You get a 400mm++ pen gun with good hesh to boot. The turret armors make it surprisingly survivable as well.
the fact that 50% packet loss does not effect him that much but 25% for me is unplayable and makes me phase through the floor is umm… depressing for me ;-;
"Everything with spall liner is busted." *Insert the Challenger 2 with spalliner in all the places it never gets shot at, so it doesn't matter either way*
7:42 wait but that F16 kill wasn't even from the dart itself, It was from a part of the sabot otherwise you should have the name of the shell in the killfeed no ??
It’s a reference to footage of a T-90M in Ukraine getting ganged up on by Bradley’s with 30mm (notably no TOW’s) and getting mission killed. The crew bailed after their vehicle became disabled.
4:47 Top attack weapons not doing anything is actually pretty accurate given what we've seen from "current events". BMP-1 taking a Javelin and continuing to return fire. TOW flying over a BTR without fusing. (Video taken from the BTRs perspective.) etc. :P
I mean two instances kinda doesnt seem to coincide with what is supposed to have happened. Cause if that was a javelin hitting the BMP, it should've been immolated.
@@XealotCoils javelin isn’t that great as people think it is. Sometimes both BMPs and tanks can eat up several of them. If ammo rack/crew isn’t hit, vehicle is operational
You should try the AML-90, it's very underrated as a gremlin tank, I've gotten some of my highest kill counts with that thing. Just flank, scout, and blap.
Next years news: The united states army tank school has implimented a new abrams varient using spall liner after T-90 was OP in warthunder. It also features all around DU protection.
No CR1 were destroyed in Operation Desert Storm but one CR2 was destroyed in an friendly fire incident in Irag in 2003, other then that incident only one CR2 has been lost due enemy attack since it's deployment in 98.
Thanks for saying the T-90M isn't as gamebreaking as people make it out to be. As a British and French main I've spent over a thousand hours using solid shot and low-calibre APDS which is the pre-APFSDS rank equivalent of shooting enemies with spall liner :) Nerd note: 3:41 Not a single Challenger 1 was lost in combat, likewise for the CR2 until just a few months ago in Ukraine. This was mostly because of how and who the British were fighting rather than the Challenger series being exceptional in some way imo.
Id love too see him play the vfm5, or the vickers mk7, but drfinately the vfm5 ive been having loads of fun in that thing with some really weird ricochets, pure goblin energy
Hey spookston, i got the SAV 20.12.48 in my first and only winter crate, adn after playing it a bit i realized that the mayority of the kills i qas getting were by overpressuring the enemies with the APHE round, this includes heavies and all kind of cuestionable kills, and i thought maybe you could go with it for a ride?
So the ‘Chinese Eye’ you see on that Challenger is actually a battle honour that was awarded to the Royal Tank Regiment. So yes, specifically the Royal Tank Regiment wear this as a battle honour on their Challengers.
@interpl6089 they might be, but they're IFVs. Not a heavy tank like the T-90. It being destroyed by stuff it was made to not be bothered with is embarrassing anyway. Sorry for the very late delay, just got recommended this video again
Been really busy with the holidays but managed to throw this together. I'll be making a video on all of the Abrams drama after I do a bit more digging.
Super hellcat pls you get to bully the germans but with a 90mm
hii spoopstoop C:
Love your content, Spookston.
Are you a furry
@Toxic_Soldier he said he wouldn't ever play it
I feel like there is a reason why some of us call this tier a "Top Tear"
Tonight on Top Tier:
I comit warcrimes in a T90M
Hammond gets screwed over by the spall liners
And James dies because of packet loss I II II L
Tonight:
I have a decal
James has a decal
And Richard is looking over the low stone wall
@@flareamv5503 cope
@flareamv5503 It hasn't been nerfed to shit. Sure it's not the best like the 2A7 however there is something to be said as far as whatever team Russia is on in ground typically wins. America has decent vehicles, however Russia has a very strong lineup, overpowered helicopters and the pantsir, and while America has the stronger CAS it can't do shit with the type of AA Russia has.
*Jessica Plays*
Gaijin would have given T-90M its thermal blanket but unfortunately since challenger 2F and TES also have them, that would mean buffing british tanks and that is absolutely unacceptable
After seeing the community response to them trying to sneak spall liners to only the T-90M, I don’t think they’ll try adding anything that NATO uses period from here on lmao. Regenerative steering will never be coming 😭😭
@@mew1023 What is regenerative steering?
@@jimmydesouza4375 Im not an expert so take what I say with a grain of salt. It's basically the tank's ability to keep power to both tracks while both are still moving at different speeds. Instead of the inner track completely stopping to make a turn, it just rotates slower and the excess power is diverted to the outer track to rotate it faster. This allows the tank to actually turn much more smoothly while still moving forward and retaining speed, instead of the inner track just locking up and killing the ground speed so you pivot on it.
Biggest thing to note is that NATO tanks have it, and specifically Russian tanks don't. That is the entire reason it's not in the game, even though it was present on tanks manufactured over 70 years ago lmao. They will never add something that isn't a pure unfair advantage to... a "certain nation"... as evidenced by spall liners. They have been present on Nato tanks since the Leopard 2a4 for example. Only added now because the first Russian tank that has it finally got added, so the rest of us are finally allowed to have it.
@@mew1023and the fact that the Abrams still doesn’t have spall liners yet as far as i remember all variants have kevlar spall liners
@@mew1023 regenetative steering is available for Russian tanks since the IS-2 afaik. Gaijin just suck at modelling physics and shits
That jet kill was wild, like hitting a bird with a rifle round.
Spookston's hate for CAS will make him do miracles lmaooo
It was with the discarding case lol it didn't show up with Shell name
@@DaBoss5 I don't think so, I think he just has munition names disabled for the killfeed. Sabot can only do a little damage within 100m now after the Kings of Battle post-update nerf.
That’s not as hard as you think
@@c32amgftw having shot sporting clays for a long time, yeah no, its pretty hard.
The reason why the top attack ATGM didn’t pen you was because it was intercepted by the friendly Black Night Challenger’s Iron Fist APS.
Black Nights APS doesnt intercept missiles unless its going to hit the Black Night itself
@@bryyetrademarkedif they were aimed in the general direction, the iron fist will shoot it down, their range is about 50 feet maximum
@@bryyetrademarked nah for some reason when I play Bill my allies apps will shoot it down if I next to them so I think they just kill everything
@@micaheiber1419 This my friend fired a atgm and my Um2 aps fired off shooting it down XD
My buddies would huddle around me or behind me when we played Cold War my T-55 had the “Drozd”
Oh hi, I didn't realize that was you o.o
We also got steamrolled that game too, but am big sad that Sinai got nerfed :(
how has this comment not gotten one replye ore pin
I was on the stream when you killed him I just remembered
Love the unloved M47 Patton day 90!
Day 90! The T-90! Thats gotta mean something now!
I always love the M47 Patton. But honestly can't help one thing: sometimes calling it a King Tiger, because I got to know the M47 from "Battle of the Bulge" (I freaking love that movie, and you can't change my mind)
holy shit never thought id see spook playin top tier in its current "balanced" state
The Gaijin school of balancing: its not broken if another nation got something broken in the patch
@@TheOneWayDown why is this so real
I mean, if you wait to play a balanced top tier, you're waiting forever
@@rarespetrusamartean5433 It can be way more balanced than it currently is. Gajin just refuses to do it over propaganda
Chally 3 next, totally don't wanna see you struggle
That intro describes top tier quite well, its a shame top tier is so frustrating to play sometimes
"Sometimes" is very optimistic for a 9 of 10 of the times you try top tier
father grigori please get back to defending ravenholm, we are hungry and you spending 5 hours killing noobs in war thunder doesn’t help
as someone watching top tier and never had the chance to play it ; it looks quiet sad because most shoots are instakill and you most of the time have 0 chance to react because angle etc doesnt work against 400mm pen
" its a shame the entire game is so frustrating to play " There, fixed it for you
@@manyfailspretty much you just have to suffer thru it and sometimes you get lucky and get 4 or 5 kills i play on a controller on pc imagine how.much that sucks lol my back is too messed up to lean forward and use a keyboard until i get a better setu0
Historically speaking, no tank has ever done good against top-attack munitions.
Gaijin won't let a thing like realism or balance hurt their Russiaboos' feelings.
@@GreatWhiteNanukthe APS of a black knight stoped the ATGM. Watch the video
@@GreatWhiteNanuk bruh dumbest comment yet
@@GreatWhiteNanuk literally germany and sweden are the most op countries and have been ever since the leo2a7 was added and the strv122
@@GreatWhiteNanuksounds like someone gets their ass beat by Russian tanks and still hasn’t learn how to defeat em🤣
4:47 a game on Shipment would permanently overstimulate a child of 2024
every single cod game since 2019 has almost permanently had shipment playlists running the entire time
Spall liners new, that's news to me? I was a Chieftain MBT crewman in the British army and our wagons have had them since the 1960's!
Gaijin hates British tech tree lmao just be glad your tank has wheels 🤣
such a shame, some of the most beautiful tanks, I'd play them but they're so underpowered in game it's insane
Fix your reverse speed and lower hull armour hull, including some apcbc rounds instead of ap variation, then you got the right to talk in war thunder 😂
@TheRussian_Main
War Thunder players when militaries have different doctrines and didn’t all make heavy tanks with fat APHE shells and enough armor to make a CATTB weep:
man leaking classified documents.
Spookston: Constantly refers to the enemy team as "bad guys"
Also Spookston: "I think I'm just going to sit here comfortably and watch you burn. It may be cruel, but is the most logical thing to do."
I'd like to see the Sturer Emil sometime soon, the long 128 is absolutely devastating and the gun depression is what makes it so annoying to go up against.
Bro just slap it with any HE round its a Insta kill OMG! its so fun any open top can be killed that way btw. Lol but I under what you mean. GG
I think he already did a video on it a while ago. It’s my favorite tank, but he would definitely hate playing in it because of CAS
0:16 the impeccable animation skills did not go unnoticed
“No the t-14 doesn’t count.”
I dunno why that’s so funny to me 💀
When people forget there's about or a bit more SepV4 Abrams as there is T14's
But the Abrams is the real tank ig
As a Russia i agree, bozos that want armata in the game, while it doesnt exist irl are very funny@@handsomeivan1980
Challenger 3 🥶
Technically, Armata is older because it's 2015 design
@@handsomeivan1980I think it's because there isn't a video of an abrams breaking down in a parade
How slow do you want the reverse speed to be on this ?
Engineers : DA
No step back
@Shinshocks555why would you question the latter? Hočetsâ čutj-čutka pokoptitjsâ v tankê?
@Shinshocks555 You didn't answer the question. You've showered me with thesises.
Karusêlj is the only option of making a truly small, lightweight tank with a large bore gun. I don't need your long posts about storing ammo in turret, since by the design it causes bigger amount of internal volume, which is "armoured air", and it is very heavy, and your method exposes the ammunition while being in a firing position, since the enemy sees the turret first.
Shorter BOPS(sorry for using a sub-language, I know it's"armour piercing discarding Netherlandian boot stabilized by fish fins") of this tank is a natural limitation and a reminder that this is a tank - a self propelled artillery installation with some protection. Which can do direct and indirect fire. And which was invented as a breakthrough instrument, not as idiotic apogee of "tank v tank combat": tank which is designed to fight other tanks and pee with 0,30" coaxial machine gun on all other targets.
Lower profile argument is the highest layer of the onion. If in your works infantry doesn't exist, and the only thing you do is "not being hit" because "not being acquired as a target" because "not being seen" because "not being there" because "i still fight only Saharan tribesman, not other guys I call 'people' without hypocrisy" you are truly a genius, and I i advise you to advert your tanks by reminding everybody how badly Sovêt design school showed itself in fighting against top-strike ATGM. Because yours tanks! They are extremely good, see the 5 points list!
I am surprised you didn't tell me about anti RPG, high arc of fire artillery, and drone cages are "coupe cages" that are designed to seethe the bad zoobhoomen by allegedly protecting them against Javelin and NLAW.
@Shinshocks555 Ukraine proved that not tank is superior than other lol , abrams in their 20th daay of deplyment 6t got destroyed lol
@Shinshocks555 uhh 2 abrams out of 5 ammo got detonated and the 3rd abrams crew d*es after t72-b2 atgm hit in their 20th day of deployment in avdifk lol and russian t90m got hit by 3 drones and 2 bradleys and crew survived lol.
The best thing about the SEP V2 is the dev blog. Even Gaijin didn't know what to say positively about it. "Pros: IDK, it's got GEN 2 thermals?"
"Remote control machine gun" like bruh
SEP also has it, stupid addition. They even said M829A3 wouldn't provide any improvements in shooting to soviet tanks XD pointless to grind it right now
@@norezi8130gaijin when they find out a round made to destroy Soviet tanks would help take out Soviet tanks:
M829A3? Very poor round. Look this new Russian round not good against ERA, why would American round be)))
Also Stinger must suck because IGLA suck. (They very much said this.)
@@Just_A_Random_Desklol ageed. to my knowledge, literally every tank aside from the m18 has remote control machine guns
10:10 fun fact: while not related to the T-90m, the American CROWS system can have a lock on it switched off and manually fired from on top of the vehicle
Wouldn't say this particular fact is fun or interesting
“Why don’t you play top tier more?” The top tier in question:
T90M exists: *public out cry from everyone*
Strv 122B+ exists: *crickets*
Strv 122b+ just doesnt get spawned as much
@@nikolaideianov5092 but when it does it wins just about every game
cuz the 122 ratio to russian tanks it's like 11:1 lol, it's better, but to be oppresive it needs to have people playing it, and the sweden grind is horrid
Most people don't play Sweden. I know a few who do and will actively say it's broken, but they're aren't enough people who play it.
The reason you see more drama around Russia and the U.S tanks/planes is because a majority of the community plays in those trees.
I guarantee if Gajin out the American tanks in proper, they'd get as much flak as the T-90M.
The leopard 2a7v is just as good the 122b+ only has gen 1 thermals
This is unrelated, but I think it'd be cool if they experimented with the "Hull break" mechanic again, but instead of it working like overpressure, it works differently. It would be there to prevent AA trucks or armored cars from tanking 122mm shells when hit in the engine or something because no matter how good of a mechanic you have or how ever many spare parts you got, you just ain't repairing that big of a hole in your car.
It might be a hot take but I dislike the idea of light vehicles walking off like 152-155mm AP shells so casually like they just didn't get hit at all.
What you haven't just filled that hole in your engine with flex seal or duct tape? Works like a charm. After all they say it fixes everything.
The problem is that Gajin will never add it back because they don't know how to balance the game.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 I am literally just now playing the game and volumetric messed up 3 of my shells in the mantlet of a panther. So yes, they do not know how to balance or fix their own game.
@@exoticdachoo007 Volumetric borked many of things. I may not have liked the idea of a Stuart pixel sniping a Maus. Though it was far better than what we have now.
They should add something like "hull break" to aircraft when getting hit by large rounds. A helicopter should not *EVER* survive a direct hit from 120mm HEAT-FS
@@minigunuser25 For real, it doesn't even need to be a HE round, it just isn't flying with a hole through it
That intro fits more than you think.
A APFSDS is basically really sharpened, manufactured rock.
Well tungsten is a mineral so technically
@@Eletruun no, tungsten is a metal, not a rock !
@thelvadam2884 And metal is found in rocks. So technically speaking, it is.
except it is nothing like a rock. weird comparison
@aiedenoldstien9751 it might be found in rocks or closely to a rock but it isn't a rock.
It's a freaking metal and metals have vastly different physical, thermal and chemical properties compared to rocks.
Get your facts straight before spreading misinformation
As a German main our leopards are currently more broken at the moment.
Honestly, the turret spall liners help a lot.
nahh they are not
T-34E-STZ is a sleeper tank. It has increased frontal armor and will bounce panzer IV rounds when angled. With the 96 pen round really never leaves you feeling weak. Dropped a 20 kill game with it. You should definitely give it a try.
HOW MANY KILLS?
You should play any of th cv90 they have good moblity and a powerful 40mm cannon along with having apfds as starting rounds plus it has he-vt
As a Swedish main I agree maybe do the BILL tho that nerf for the 90C did make it less enjoyable for me
wat da heck did they nerf,im only on 8.7 sweden@@dragoon2313
And they also have a spall liner lol
@Optimusprime56241 only the C has the spall liner, considering its the same br as the 2s38 it definitely needed a spall liner but after playing it it doesn't make much of a difference
@@macrossdelta1402 no they all have spall liners
Welp, that's the only top tier video we'll get for 2 years
At least Spookston had fun with this one.
Top tier is boring both to watch and play
You know what else is very dumb? The Super Pershing
Please!
The remote MG has it's ironsights because it can be dismounted and used like the infantry version, pretty sure they store the bipod and butt stock for it somewhere in the tank like they do for coax PKTs. If a thing can be designed to perform multiple tasks, it will, basically the russian engineering dogma.
That plane shot was fucking incredible. Spook’s ability to just slap aircraft out of the sky with cannons never ceases to amaze.
Spookton: *"Noo I had to kill an HSTVL"*
Also Spookston: *"The rats have been exterminated"*
The eyes thing is something dating back to the first world war, and is an insignia on one of the RTR squadrons. Supposedly it's because a Chinese(?) buisnessman financed either one of a few of a Tank Corps companies tanks but gave a notably odd request to have eyes painted on the side to ward off bad omens and spirits.
That F-16 kill with an apfsds was impressive. I wonder whether the main penetrator or the sabot petals hit him.
This also made me wonder that combining an apfsds round with a canister shot would be viable or not. Here I mean to replace the sabot petals with a sabot that doubles as a canister, containing metal balls.
Such a sabot canister hybrid should not degrade the performance of an apfsds penetrator much.
Real sabot open up and fall away at no more than 100m.
Real sabot also has minimized mass.
Mainly because energy not going into pushing the rod are not contributing to making enemy going boom.
The newest sabot design is not even metal anymore. Iirc, it is sort of composite mix, to minimized the weight.
The petals did cause if the main round did, it would of shown up as the main round name in the kill feed
They used some kind of round in Vietnam. Cant remember the name But there are some videos on yt about it
@@Bald-Eagle69 Australian Centurion Tank crews called it 'Beehive' round, basically lots of flechettes.
@@aussiemilitant4486
Yes, but those are dedicated anti-personnel rounds. Similarly, the US army developed a dedicated anti-personnel canister round for the M1 Abrams.
My idea is to have an apfsds round that is optimised for anti-tank purposes, but also has a secondary close range anti-personnel effect in case of emergency. The point here is to have such a canister sabot that does not impede the performance of the main penetrator compared to the regular petal sabots.
The canister sabot does not even needs to be heavier then the petals simply because infantry are soft targets.
Even ceramic or plastic pellets would have a deadly effect with propellant quantity of an apfsds round.
When people were mocking 'cope cages' for their inability to stop Javelins and now that they actually have a use, blocking drone-dropped grenades/bomblets, the name became somewhat silly.
And then the FPV drones showed up, and they're getting worse, saw a Russian tank get evaporated by its ammo rack + the drone payload.
The "cage" part of the "cope cage" is the critical element. Many improvised covers shown early in the war were slapped right above key hatches and blocking already limited visibility. Soldiers wised up on this - now they are equally dirt cheap and slapdash, but spaced so far away from the tank it's more like a cope tent than a cope cage, making the vehicle visible from a mile away. The new type are the ones you see getting hit by drones the most since the loss in discretion far outweighs any gain in protection.
Spookston: I always get CAS'ed
Also spookston: Get out of here! *snipes an F-16C with apfsds* (He is starting to understand the ballistics of CAS and CAP because of how many times he has gotten CAS'ed)
what is CAP? Carrier air patrol?
C - Combat
A - Air
P - Patrol
Spookston killing the hstvl like hes killing his son is so funny lmao
"Of course the American would shoot public transport" 💀
why tf am i dying to this
Bc it's true
Spookston: “I’m not that good at top tier”
Literally top tier: point and click
0:41 I like how spook tried to hide a fucking t90m behind a tool shed
I mean, I laser rangefinder every single time I can. I need 100% accuracy. I trust the computer more than my brain.
From what I've noticed blast doors work ONLY if you penetrate them, like if you shoot abrams ammo from a side without piercing blast doors tank will explode but when you pierce blast doors and damage ammo from the front of the turret only ammo dissapears nothing more happens XD
Why ain't i surprised.
That doesn't make any sense.
The main issue with top tier imo, and the reason it so quickly devolves into spawn camping is that gaijin refuses to give us maps bigger than 2km by 2km. They have them, they just refuse to put them into rotation, and they constantly take out any bump that even hints at taking long range shots.
Bro, today i got one of the sand maps(Tunisia i think) but a beefed up version, for all of my 7 years playing i have never seen that big of a version of that exact map, i got one 2.4 and two 2.8km kills and it was fucking amazing , told the boys in chat how much i liked big maps for top tier but many of em said the complete opposite, idk why people are like this....
@armoredlumberjack1999 so much fun camping half across a map, isn't it?
War thunder player:this game Easy but sometime hard...
Meanwhile Multicrew Tank Simulator player:
NO WAY
3:50 Fun Fact. Spook killed a Challenger 2 while saying "desert storm". But Challenger 2 wasn't used during DS because it didn't exist yet. The Challenger 2 entered service in 1998, desert storm began in 1990.
11:35 I like how Spookston gets scared there, just like mine his mouse slides out of pure panic over his whole sreen every time he gets shot.
Spookston complaining about the reverse gear.
My brain: "The only option is forward comrades!"
Your front is wall 💀
currently enjoying the f5c as in every match full uptiers and a rare specimen called "the entire enemy team is on my six" very enjoyable
Oh, you think you're suffering in your F-5C? Decent speed, good manoeuvrability and flares. And premium bonuses. I look behind me in my Su-22 and I see 6 F-5c players, so you're not one to complain about that, meanwhile I have 6 flares and 6 chaff, can't turn for shit!
@@arcroyal1258agreed, i used tbe f5c to grind out most of rank 7, and its an insane fighter. it does suffer vs mig21’s, but thats probably more on me not choosing my fights too well lol. ive won many a dogfight vs f14’s a few months ago
@@nitrous_god One thing I will admit is that it's missiles are ass lmfao
@@arcroyal1258The people who complain it's bad because it has "bad missiles" are just bad. They are okay and they aren't really bad for a 10.3 . People seem to forget it isn't a super high BR to have stupidly strong missiles but honestly it doesn't need them to do well even in an uptier. The plane is so handheld in its flight model but it is a lot of fun. It's consistent but the teams are ROUGH lmao
@@notsoracistraspberry4168 I disagree, aim-9es appear to have a very narrow seeker head. If played with and against them and If you just pull hard you can evade, and most aircraft have flares at 10.3. it's not too bad, but there are a lot better. But yeah teams are hell lmao
8 fucking kills and only 8K RP with premium.
Gaijin is really making us scrape the bottom of the barrel huh.
I love how when i make those same shots, in the same areas, with similar ammo, nothing happens. But this guy and other TH-camrs just get back to back one tap kills.
Recently, I researched the Conway. It is the one tank I have played that at stock was very good, barring lack of spare parts of course. Can you take a look at the British 7.0 Conway? You get a 400mm++ pen gun with good hesh to boot. The turret armors make it surprisingly survivable as well.
Now Gaijin is waiting for the T-90M drama to calm down, so that they can add the 2S19 Msta-S into the game next.
That'll be the day, modern Russian SPHs before we get a single WWII SPH for any other nation.
VIDAR 💀
it's fine at long as on right BR
I thought this would be about the T-90M IRL (since the T-90M shares the same jack-in-the-box issues as the T-72 and T-80).
It's pretty much in game if enemy aware and shoot first
(assuming ammo ain't invincible because bug)
The M2A2 is a really fun goblin tank
Wait,a Spookston video without him being killed by CAS?also in top tier?
I can't believe it,truly the best video to end the year
"I'm not very good at it." you get triple my kills, even when you get zero kill games.
My 48th attempt at asking spookston to play the t26e1-1 super pershing
Please understand. Because of how they perform inreal life, gaijin at least need to boost them ingame
the fact that 50% packet loss does not effect him that much but 25% for me is unplayable and makes me phase through the floor is umm… depressing for me ;-;
"Everything with spall liner is busted." *Insert the Challenger 2 with spalliner in all the places it never gets shot at, so it doesn't matter either way*
“I feel like I’m fighting the game and the other player”
Claps
Correct 1 challenger was lost during desert storm and it wqs freindly fire
7:42 wait but that F16 kill wasn't even from the dart itself, It was from a part of the sabot otherwise you should have the name of the shell in the killfeed no ??
Day 20 of asking spookston to play the panzer 3m
With spall liners in the game spook should be happy, now every top tier tank feels like playing the HSTVL
Spookston hasnt got killed by a CAS in this video thats pretty impressive honestly lmao
Notably, it performs very poorly against Bradleys. You're going to want to avoid that matchup if you can help it.
No it doesn't
Found another clown thinking he is being funny. So many clowns.
@@dyddsko you didn t quite get the joke did you
Bradley’s are trash at top tier?
It’s a reference to footage of a T-90M in Ukraine getting ganged up on by Bradley’s with 30mm (notably no TOW’s) and getting mission killed. The crew bailed after their vehicle became disabled.
4:47 Top attack weapons not doing anything is actually pretty accurate given what we've seen from "current events". BMP-1 taking a Javelin and continuing to return fire. TOW flying over a BTR without fusing. (Video taken from the BTRs perspective.) etc. :P
I mean two instances kinda doesnt seem to coincide with what is supposed to have happened. Cause if that was a javelin hitting the BMP, it should've been immolated.
@@XealotCoils javelin isn’t that great as people think it is. Sometimes both BMPs and tanks can eat up several of them. If ammo rack/crew isn’t hit, vehicle is operational
You should try the AML-90, it's very underrated as a gremlin tank, I've gotten some of my highest kill counts with that thing. Just flank, scout, and blap.
Definitely, its one of my favorite French tanks, same goes for the ELC bis and the EBR 1951/54
Can't remember in which video, but i think he mentioned the AML-90 and that he didn't really like it.
aint no way bro called the AML-90 under rated
@@TheLegendaryOsiris I just rarely see it used.
Next years news: The united states army tank school has implimented a new abrams varient using spall liner after T-90 was OP in warthunder. It also features all around DU protection.
Don't forget extent RHA on turret ring at least 500mm+
@@SRDPS2 they replaced the RHA with 1 meter kinetic protection equivalent ring after your changes to reduce weight
No CR1 were destroyed in Operation Desert Storm but one CR2 was destroyed in an friendly fire incident in Irag in 2003, other then that incident only one CR2 has been lost due enemy attack since it's deployment in 98.
Day 60 of asking Spookston to play the t-35
Thanks for saying the T-90M isn't as gamebreaking as people make it out to be. As a British and French main I've spent over a thousand hours using solid shot and low-calibre APDS which is the pre-APFSDS rank equivalent of shooting enemies with spall liner :)
Nerd note: 3:41 Not a single Challenger 1 was lost in combat, likewise for the CR2 until just a few months ago in Ukraine. This was mostly because of how and who the British were fighting rather than the Challenger series being exceptional in some way imo.
I play the Challenger 2 at top tier, the T-90M isn't game breaking fairly easy to dispatch with well placed shots.
challenger series is exceptional, yes i am british, and yes i am bias.
US top tier currently is like getting a root canal
oof I know that feeling
I see you are having a slice of the T-14 meal replacement
Ay I remember that, I ended up killing you at 6:25 into the video as the Leopard 2 PL
*Spookston, please play with the Sturmtiger but bushed up like a Goblin!*
Justin been reeeeeally quiet since this video dropped...
Hey, I know you don't like the british tree all that much, but you should give the rooikat mk.1d a try. Thanks for the amazing content
Falcon or Vickers mk1
Id love too see him play the vfm5, or the vickers mk7, but drfinately the vfm5 ive been having loads of fun in that thing with some really weird ricochets, pure goblin energy
thats really cool ya found justinplays, love seeing war thunder content creators together!
finally not a bias spam, i love this chanel
Hey spookston, i got the SAV 20.12.48 in my first and only winter crate, adn after playing it a bit i realized that the mayority of the kills i qas getting were by overpressuring the enemies with the APHE round, this includes heavies and all kind of cuestionable kills, and i thought maybe you could go with it for a ride?
I think he has a video on it from not too long ago
well yeah. check the tnt equivalent and if its over 180g it will always overpressure. that thing has like 800g
Top tier devolves into, like, BR 2.7 arcade games or something.
I highly recommend trying the 75/18 M41. It's a fun little pasta launcher.
The controversial thing is that the Abrams still doesn't have spall liners.
So the ‘Chinese Eye’ you see on that Challenger is actually a battle honour that was awarded to the Royal Tank Regiment. So yes, specifically the Royal Tank Regiment wear this as a battle honour on their Challengers.
I would love to see "Cope Cages" added to the tanks that have them. They should NOT add what cope cages are effective against though.
Oh god I can envision the hell suicide drones would be at top tier now
But I guess "cope cape" would block artillery call too because typical WarT hunder hitbox
10:19 i hate it to, people say it as an insult when it actually does it job perfectly well, to stop drones from attacking the top of your tank
russians actually installed it to stop ATGMs but then found out it stops FPV drones pretty well, now the IDF is using them too with hohols
perfectly well? There were an anser to javelins which they didnt stop
@@Keckegenkai they didn't stop top-attack ATGMs but did a very significant job in stopping FPV drones
you should try out the Rooikat Mk.1D!
76mm apfsds is pain
76mm apfsds is pain
76mm apfsds is pain
"I'm pretty bad at top tier so 3 kills is good"
Me with an average 1.8 kills in top tier: 😃
Checks out, dip your toes into top rank, get killed by Justin
Bradley.
I’m grinding the British top tier at the challe 2 at 11.3 and it’s nice not having heat as a stock shell 😂
Day 6 of asking spookston to play the arl 44 tank destroyer
Saying desert storm in this context is like saying world star
HSTV-Ls were harmed during the making of this video
Y'know what tank isn't dumb? The AS-42/47.
its very dumb
@@user-fe7bo5mm1o liar
@@user-fe7bo5mm1o until MG sudden hit
Really nice video, you NEED to keep up the good content.
And 3 weeks later a T-90M was disabled by a Bradley. Russia must feel pretty dumb right now
To be fair it was 2 Bradley’s and an FPV drone. But still no less embarrassing
Like the Bradleys are not destroyed in dozens...by anything. ATGMs, Drones, Mines, Artillery etc.
@interpl6089 they might be, but they're IFVs. Not a heavy tank like the T-90. It being destroyed by stuff it was made to not be bothered with is embarrassing anyway.
Sorry for the very late delay, just got recommended this video again
The fact that Spookston said he's happy with 3 kills in a tank at top tier makes me feel so much better about myself
How have I been missing this TH-cam in the years I've played and watched Warthunder? This channel is a hidden gem!