2017 BMW B58 540i - The German 2JZ!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2024
- Is the B58 over hyped? Not as good as most say? Or is it the true successor to the infamous N54?
Today's review will be a little different as this vehicle is one from my personal collection. Taylor will provide an honest, unbiased review as he's never driven the vehicle prior.
Dare we say, can this be the actual German equivalent of the famous Toyota 2jz!?
Stay tuned to find out!
List of modifications:
- BMS intake filter
- FTP turbo inlet
- CTS charge pipe
- CTS downpipe
- Rear muffler delete
- MHD Stage 2+ HPFP e40 tune
- xHP Stage 3 transmission flash
- Custom Coding via. yours truly
00:00 - Intro
00:37 - Meet the Owner/Car
04:37 - Test Drive
19:47 - Report Card
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It's actually crazy how the sound is from the 540i with just an resonator and muffler delete. On top of that do a chip tune and you have yourself a beast of a car. So capable.
Lol a chip tune lololol
@@N54-Mike yup, got myself stage 2 540i with moded exhaust, 450 horse power, amazing car, PURE SOUND, crazy engine, n54 is just retarded older brother to b58
@DeaglePL94 built b58 vs built n54 do u know who wins n54 does buddy just cause its newer doesn't mean better also I'm 30k+ deep into my 335i e92 pushing 620whp on 9-12psi single turbo with full m3 lsd axles control arms etc also on 23 psi I'm over 800whp+ and I have no issues with reliability what soever but yes the b58 is a cool platform as I enjoy all bmws
@@DeaglePL94 also respect ur elders don't get gapped by a n54 lololol
@@N54-Mike haha nah impossible + n54 would spit pistons through the turbo before that hahaha 😅
When you drive like a 75 y old yes it will b boring with any vehicle, step on it and it won’t be boring lol
„Its comfy but you can have fun when you want to“
That sentence really seems to summarise it up.
I really liked it honestly that you didn’t installed were like „i love it“ and all that but gave an honest review.
That it is and at the same time isn’t what you take the car for.
Loved your video, very calm and some fun
glad to hear! more to come in the future!
This changed my mind I need a 540i now
I have this same exact Bimmer but in mineral metallic white and its a complete BEAST with the right mods!! Great Video!!
What mods have you done to yours, I’m really looking into getting one soon
@robrandall1944 I've done catless downpipe, FTP inlet, BMS intake, CTS charge pipe, Supra HPFP and MHD Stage 2+ e40 map and xHP Stage 3 with a little spice.
I'd say it's around 470whp right now, give or take. it's completely transformed the vehicle!
More car reviews from NLR please. Thank you guys.
I have the same car, 2018 540i xDrive. At 116k miles, AMAZING VEHICLE. Just muffler delete so far and quad tips. BUY ONE!!!!
I've been extremely happy with mine! now I'm contemplating if I need to upgrade the turbo. 🤔
@@tony.nextlevelridesMy only annoying issue I have which my f10 suffered from was shaking 80-92mph. Comes and goes, so far got brand new tires and wheel alignment. Still have it, seems to plague some g30s and badly plagued F10s. Otherwise fantastic car, looking to get a CTSV v2 in 2 years or so next!
How’s the cabin drone?
It's minimal, we did keep the factory exhaust valve for long trips to quiet it down if we needed it
I have the same with BM3 stage 2. It’s a monster.
He’s so right with the cars not having souls I got a a6 supercharged from a e46 I can’t get over the difference the car enjoyed high rpm. I find myself just cruising more cause the car I feel the car doesn’t even enjoy being shifted
Great car, great review, agree with everything. It can lull you to sleep in comfort mode, but can spice it up a ton if you want in sport. Best of both worlds if you ask me. Love mine. What front spoiler is that? And which CTS downpipe did you go with?
the downpipe is catless, nothing special!
here's a link to the front lip.
www.ebay.ca/itm/313607064207?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=klydjpsrr82&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pAxDZw98Tea&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@tony.nextlevelrides thanks! How’s the fitment on it? Did everything line up on the install?
yup, fit surprisingly good!
I was on the fence between the 2018 440i and the 2017 540i. The 540i is just it for me. A tick slower sue to weight but you can't beat the higher quality and comfort. More space and mature looking. I am 43 and it should suit me more. Only thing I am not sure about is going xdrive or rwd.
all depends how you drive it. if you're driving it in snow or racing from a dig, you'll definitely need xDrive. if you're in a warmer climate, RWD most likely.
traction can become an issue if you make more power.
you almost always want RWD easier to work on less problems and less weight
I am going with it. Thank you for your thoughts, gentlemen.
I'm stuck between this same ultimatum. X-drive is mandatory. this man explained so well as to why I'm leaning towards the 5. but im still young and like the sportiness of the 4, the 4 just looks better imo. but that interior is soooo outdated. they go for about the same prices over here in the tri-state area and the 5 definitely seems like the better bang for the buck.
@livinglegacy8429 it definitely is. what it boils down to is what you want. sporty or luxury.
for me, I have enough sports cars and the F10 M5 comp didn't give me that "piece of mind" driving it. so the 540 checked all the boxes.
still plenty sporty but not a "sports coupe". I always found German cars to be more luxury.
Merry Christmas hey it's billy I ordered the stuff on the list u sent me . Haven't got the stage 2. Or 3 with one will be the best. And I figured I'll get the Buger intake last what u think
yeah that's fine, the stock one is not restrictive. I got mine first for the increased noise. no difference in intake temp either.
@@tony.nextlevelrides ok after I sent the message to you I went ahead and bought the bms as well so know wating for stuff to come in then get it install then I'll get the tune. Which tune is better stage 2 or 3?
@billy300m depends on the fuel used. blending when you know you'll be "enjoying" is what I did with mine.
@@tony.nextlevelrides what is blending and I'm knew to this ?
I have a F30 335i and the engine and transmission tune is a night and day difference, I'm sure it's even more on the 5 series cause they really watered the throttle down. this might be my next car because I want what a tuned 335i offers but more comfort and interior quality, perfect balance of a car. btw, how come the window trim is satin/glossy? I thought all M Sport models had the Shadowline trim? also, just out of curiosity, was the hood repainted? seems to have a good amount of orange peel
for the G series, the shadow line trim was a separate option (or base option) while brushed aluminum came at a cost.
this one's weird, it had shadow line front inserts, brushed aluminum window trim and side vents (wrapped in the video).
for the hood, it has 1/2 PPF on the hood, the day was brutal and had tons of smoke with ash so when I wiped it, it dried funny.
I had it paint corrected since!
The best 5 series ever build 🤩
F10 was more muscular! Won't you agree?
Car looks great. How is the fitment of the front lip? Looking for one myself. Thanks
it's pretty good, for a cheap ebay lip!
Big b58 😤😤😤 nice vid
the B58 is something else!
I just got a 2017 bmw 540i with 39000 miles on it. I've been watching videos and yours are great I'm trying to figure out what is the best way to go about getting more power to my car. Can you tell me what sites to go on for the down pipe, how to get the tunes to make it an all around beast like yours . This is my first time owning a bmw kinda lost on what and were I'll take any good advice and help
I'd honestly follow my nodding process, it's completely transformed the vehicle! Here's what I'd recommend.
FTP turbo inlet
CTS downpipe (or VRSF)
xHP Stage 3 (I can help with settings)
Supra HPFP
MHD Stage 2+ (depending on fuel)
these would transform the car into an absolute weapon.
for sites, not sure to be honest. I got the FTP inlet off eBay direct from supplier for cheaper.
@@tony.nextlevelrides were do I get the stage 2 and 3 kits from and the Supra hphf at
@billy300m people used to get the HPFP from a place called merlin diesel. now you can get them in many places, judt pick the cheapest.
MHD'a website will show you what maps you can get and the cost.
@@tony.nextlevelridesI figured what u mean by blend . lol what you do far as an exhaust ?
I have a 2017 530i on H&R springs and spacers. Not as fast as the b58 but I love driving the hell out of it ! Sweet car
how do you find the H&R springs? I have them in my cart ready for check out but I'm gun shy to click "proceed".
@@tony.nextlevelrides for me personally, I love them. Idk why there’s mixed emotions on the g30 groups on Facebook. Biggest difference for me is less body roll. They feel so much better than stock. No bounciness whatsoever
@xxAJx04xx did you have the base suspension or the M sport? I wouldn't want to lose comfort but want to minimize the dip, pitch and roll.
@@tony.nextlevelrides just base suspension brotha
Just bought myself a 2017 530ix, literally this Wednesday. I am in love with the car. B58 is obviously the best, but it's hard to use its performance without putting yourself and your license at risk. B48 is still fast and fun, main difference is it needs maybe 1 sec to build up the boost or to downshift, then it goes. Still a great car, I am so happy I got myself a 5-series, I recently compared my car to a 2020 430i Gran Coupe, boy that thing's interior is just two leagues below 5-series.
Bought my 2018 540i for the same price as a Toyota Camry. Great value in these cars
absolutely!!
It could be lowered yes, but it sits pretty well cosmetically. I'd think no lower than an inch, MAYBE 👀
the M Performance suspension sits 15mm lower than a standard g30. I was looking at the H&R springs that would lower it another 15mm to 20mm roughly but stiffen up the ride, help weight transfer and keep the vehicle flatter in a corner. won't be low but will handle MUCH better.
I love my tuned stage 2 BM3 540ix!
Can't forget the Remus quad exhaust😁
I wish!! I'm. going to go with a quad exhaust this summer and maybe an additional resonator
i been owning that car for a few months now I'm it's not that I'm afraid of it but that car is a boat at the end of the day and u can also feel the power real quick if it's in sport but i usally cruise at around 80 mph im also a techniam thats only 20 years old and ill like to keep my license clean. but is a spaceship fosure
I have the same sunroof problem with my 540i. I Just lube it up every couple of months
the squeaking when the shade is open? I'll have to look into that!
what lube and where do i put it at?
Yea I just want all the series
Beautiful car - definitely spend some time scrubbing the steering wheel with cleaner and a cloth, the finish on those steering wheels should be more matte than shiny.
funny enough, I did exactly that when I got home. I had no idea until Taylor drove it and the oils from his hands mixed with whatever was on the wheel already! good catch!
just cleaned it a second time, it looks nothing like it did before! the feel is even better. not sure how I missed it being so dirty.
@@tony.nextlevelrides happy to hear that, it's a beautiful car
I owned mine for about a year now and it's a very hard car to drive, super hard to get used to it but it has very good handling. It's really soulless, the steering is numb and the throttle response is horrendous under 3k rpm but the noise it makes, the pulling power and smoothness is amazing.
the throttle response is significantly better with an xHP transmission flash and MHD engine flash. well worth the money!
Very weird, never had that feeling with my M140i xdrive. It pulls from around 1500rpm to redline.
they definitely watered down the 540 and slowly ramped in the throttle input. it's instant with a tune now.
@@bradofwar5960 i'm not saying it doesn't pull, it pulls hard from any where on the rev range, it just takes some time for the engine to react when you press the gas under 3k rpm, once the electronics catch up it goes hard
yup, I had the same issue. shows pedal input snap to 100 but the throttle gets ramped in.
Same engine in a UK M140i is the best, as the body is much smaller and much lighter, and RWD only.
Had one for 4 years, a straight line missile.
Unfortunately the interior and chassis is just the same as a low end 1 series, so I get the luxury factor of the 5 series.
the M240 here is pretty comparable to the M140 you guys get but Ira at least xDrive, makes it a weapon in a straight line!
the 540 is just that, SO MUCH more luxurious than the 1-4 series models!
I'm extremely undecided between 3 cars:
- 540i 2018
- m340i 2020
- m3 f80 2015
- m5 f10 2015
I intend to do Stage 2 in any of these 4 that I get, the twin-turbo V8 might not start due to the very expensive maintenance and problems that may arise. As for the M3 f80, the S55 has a crank hub as soon as I use it, and it pulls out a lot, putting me at risk, I'm totally Soviet when it comes to things. And so I'm really between the 540i 2018 and the m340i 2020, I love space and technologies, they say that the ZF8HP transmission of the 540i is second generation, while the m340i is a third generation ZF8HP, I don't know in practice where the difference would be difference between them. So I would like you to tell me which of the cars I should buy, I intend to do stage 2 and then a stage 3, either the 540i or the m340i ?
the transmissions (2nd and 3rd) are nearly identical and EXTREMELY good.
I picked the 540i simply because of the luxury, more modern interior (all of the old 7 series features) and having the B58. it's an excellent vehicle with reliability as a piece of mind.
I put a deposit on an F10 M5 comp. and just couldn't pull the trigger, I'd never have the piece of mind like with my 540i.
Hey it's billy again so I looked at the mhd and they have a super one and it's 561 and there's one that is under for 317 I just don't know with one to get can u please help me on with one I should purchase?
you'd need the super license. this gives you ALL the maps and the data logging license.
@@tony.nextlevelridesthank you for all your help I appreciate it very much
…it won’t be boring when you add Remus cat-back exhaust, MSS (HAS) kit, and/or forged/semi-forged wheels. Just sayin’.
Been debating between a G series 540i x drive or a b9.5 Audi S5 sportback
well, the 540 in my opinion is a MUCH better car.
How many miles do you have on ur bimmer and has it been reliable throughout ur ownership
@scottroberts5529 148k (km) and flawless. current tly makes around 520-540hp to the motor. no issues.
The sportback of the S5 makes it a whole different animal.
0:25 satisfying
man i am so hyped getting my 540i, but as a true german guy i am getting myself a touring. but i cannot get this sound with beeing legal as for regualtions in germany are retty damn hard for us car guys. but i know exactly which wheels i want on it! :D
I wish we got the touring, that's what I would have got as well!!
@@tony.nextlevelrides yooo wait, you guys dont have tourings lol? fk me :D
@khaoslol1631 brutal, right? we only got touring in lower and older models. we get very few diesel options too! I wish I could get a 540d touring!!
I thought when dad left for milk he was never coming back
miracles can happen. 😅
stuck between picking this and the 2019 440i GC
the 540 all the way, revised interior and all the luxury items from the previous 7 series as a base.
@@tony.nextlevelrides yea. i been on youtube trying to decide for months. i really dont like the 440s interior. I do love that M4 look that it has. But you sold me on this blacked out 5!
mine went for milk too... never seen him since hehehe although that car looks more exciting than you guys seen to potray it to be the responce is fantastic and the sound even more so,
it's been more and more impressive the harder it's driven. it's no M5 but a very happy medium!
i see, thank you for this upload
@@tony.nextlevelrides
Did u just rate pre opf b58 8/10 when it comes to tune? you must be out of your mind boy :D
lol, it's good, could be a tiny bit better but still excellent.
@@tony.nextlevelrideswell if u put 1500 usd into its capable 500hp and if you want to go hardcore ive seen some guys got 1k hp out of it
@@MajorB58the us and canada does not have an opf in any model year.
Oh and lick yourself up a pedal tuner. You can adjust the accelerator sensitivity in 3 stages. It will be the most drastic mod you do for the money! In Stage three the response is instantaneous. Best $200-$300 you’ll spend
what do you recommed to get for g30?
@jayduro3721 definitely the list I outlined in the video! it's almost perfect! might be in the description here too.
@@jayduro3721 Which G30?
540i @@litspeed7940
x3 m40 is insane lil suv u forget it is a suv.
that may be the next purchase! if if not an X3M.
BMW 540i or cls 450? Which car is better ?
I don't have much experience with the CLS as I'm a big fan of BMW in general. I'm sure it's a good car but it's also tough to think of another being significantly better than the 540.
@@tony.nextlevelrides thanks for fast reply. Maybe u can help me out with 540i. Should I buy a 2017 540i or a newer? Like 2020 or 2022?
At least you didn’t say “overrated.”
it's still a great car, but might not be enough for something wanting an actual ///M.
@@tony.nextlevelrides What?
This Bmw is Hot! what color is this ? Jet Black Or Black Sapphire ?
Black Sapphire!
@@tony.nextlevelrides now i m looking for my bmw in this color!
Pretty expensive to maintain no? Also uses different radiator compared to 340/440 etc.. around $600 and 6 more hoses… Evap goes out is $4k fix or deal with no AC
nah, doesn't seem that bad. Atleast so far. *knock on wood*
If I could describe this car with only one word, that word would be "numb"
yup! hoping to change that soon. I think some lowering springs, wheels, tires and M5C control arms will help a lot.
G30 is NEVER overhyped! I love my G30
me too!! the longer I have it the more I love it.
@@tony.nextlevelrides Same!
What front lip ia that?
just a cheap one off ebay
what size spacers are you running on this?
12mm front, 15mm rear.
What car does the other guy have? Because this car isn’t “slow” and should not be compared with the X5 lol
he has a 700hp e92 with a single swap. 😅
What was this a Sunday joy ride
Sunday joy ride / Sunday test drive. same-same.
😂😂😂😂
Your dad is from europe right? ;-)
nationality is Croatian but born in Canada. 🇨🇦
Y’all calling this car boring but shit I just got one and it’s way more fun than my e92 335i lol
have you tuned it yet? with MHD and xHP, it's a completely different animal.
40/50 is actually a B minus not A minus
turns out there's a couple scales, can't remember the one we used but I think it was for a Canadian school system. 🤔
Not a boring car!! Put it in sports mode + and feel the difference, with out any mods!! Your driving in boring mode😂😂
you're right, I believe the comparison was the car going from fame and timid to a weapon. it doesn't just do one thing well, it does multiple things great.
These cars shine past 90mph. Anything under is too easy for it. That’s why it feels like it has no soul.
you're absolutely right! I like it though, tame and refined in lower settings so it's nice to drive around but turns into a weapon when tuned a bit and taken to higher speed.
Nope the B58 is not the 2jz. But the s58 is the 2jz
does that make the B58 the 1JZ then? 🤔
you guys did the most booring test drive video ever :)))) congrats
do we get a present or trophy? participation award? ribbon? smiley sticker?
x340i over this every day
for half the cost, I'll take this. 😎👌
@@tony.nextlevelrides Uk prices 8k difference 😁
Of all the colors to choose from why black on black. Yuk!
it was the only one for sale in Alberta at the time, plus the price was right!
@@tony.nextlevelrides ya i dont pick my used cars based on color , its more condition and cost then hopefully the color is solid, i usually hard pass @ tan interiors though lol, unless its a crazy deal
@@RingerRacingthe tan is so clean ur bugging
@@diangelo6686 I got my x3 35i for $4600. White with tan interior. Not my first choice at all. Tan in used cars gets to dirty. Especially tan carpet .. not complaining just saying lol.
Cars don't have souls !!! Stop saying stupid things. Some cars are just built mechanically different which give it more of a sporty ride
you hust hurt my 540's feelings, you should apologize.