Honda's turbo engines dilute oil like crazy and toyota's been up to their necks in recalls lately. Standards all around are plummeting, even among brands known for their "reliability". Comparatively the b58 doesn't sound all that bad given what you're getting for the cost
@@Stinky-pinkys The video where he states he had zero issues with his engine? These have been out 10 years; of course there's going to be a list of potential issues.
Not crapping on it at all! As I said in the video, it’s a great engine. However, it does have issues and if we stay informed, we may be able to prevent some of those issues or at least be on a look out so a small issues doesn’t cause a lot of damage
My car is on 120000miles and i have had zero issues related to the engine and my car has been tuned from new and i drive it extremely hard have even done track days.
I think a lot of these issues today are being engineered in by design cost, like plastic covers, water pumps etc, we know they have a much shorter shelf life and can’t hold up to a decade of extreme heat cycles and subsequent gasket leaks. The best engineered cars are behind us today, it’s a great shame.
Some failures are due to poor/infrequent servicing. Oil deterioration is a common thread. Sticking to annual or 12k mile BMW service schedule with OEM parts will certainly help. Suspect that when many if these cars are out of warranty, they also stop getting serviced to BMW spec. Had BMWs for 20 years and use BMW servicing. BMW discount parts by up to 40% for older cars. The total cost of servicing and convenience of using BMW is worth the uplift - an uplift that won't be as high if prevents failures. I have a 2017 540i stage 1 MHD, that still take to main dealer for servicing. I let it warm up (oil temp warm) rag it, then drive calmly for 10m+ to cool. Sometimes put heating to max with AC off and windows open. Brake pads/disks and tyres get from a reputable independent.
Your comment about the plastic oil pump parts help me decide not to by a used BMW, thank you and this is a fantastic video. My N52 had a plastic water pump impeller and failed on a vacation.
There is nothing wrong with a used BMW. Buy a Certified Pre Owned (CPO) comes with a warranty and it's extendable to give you the piece of mind. I would never buy any car brand new.. loses value way too fast the first 2-3 years
This is great video I’m currently looking to buy BMW 840 4door but now I’m stuck I don’t know what to do. From everything I have been reading B58 is robust engine but I am concerned about oil pump. Thanks for making this video
Just traded mine in at 67k Only problem was upper radiator hose was replaced and codes 134F04 Valvetronic, adjustment range: Error bounds checking 135401 Valvetronic, Overload Protection 190302 tank-venting and purge air Feinstleck: leakage Greater Than 0, 5 mm 12AD01 Lambda probe after catalytic converter: Signal Firmly lying on skimmed I deleted the codes and put back on the original catalytic converter b4 trade in Was still under extended warranty nevertheless Always get a good warranty on German cars
only problem with my 540i(2017) with 130k km / 80k~ miles was the coolant leaks through the radiator which eventually made me change the radiator entirely(500-600 to replace OE part). that's the only thing I had to replace outside basic maintenance (oil, filters, brakes and brake fluid). Oh and 1 small motor for headlights washer
I have an x7. Love the engine and hate everything else about it. The active grill failed. One led for the front headlight went out. The center row is automatic and not manual, and the seats easily fail and are very difficult to fix.
Great Video, Great Colour and Great interior- I have an X5 M Sport Xdrive 40i Phytonic Blue with the same interior as you! I am running 22 inch rims, but noticed that you have a higher profile tyre on your rims- I am looking to change rims and tyres, Would it be too much trouble if you can tell me the rim size and tyre size you are using??
How many miles you have on your x7 and what year is it Been watching all your videos on this car. Seems like your satisfied with this car completely. I’m planing to get into this same car (40i) Planing to take it to 100k 120k miles and do all the maintenance that I can on my own. Just like you, we don’t mind getting our hands dirty. For the amount of money Ima spend on a Acura MDx I rather throw it on a x7. And parts are very similar in price surprisingly. Feel like I’ll Get more money worth in a x7 then a mdx. What’s your overall opinion with your beautiful x7
I got it with 45000 miles (I think) and we are close to 60000 miles now. I've been pretty happy with the car other than a few quirks I've mentioned in the "I complain about my BMW X7" video. I'd say you get a lot more of the money with the X7. I drove the MDX and a few others similar models, but the X7 was the most fun to drive and felt the most quiet luxury inside and out, which I prefer. People get caught in $1000 services as the dealer will charge you $200 to change the filter, but If you don't mind doing some of the maintenance and work yourself, it's a great car!
Do you have an oil leak around turbo inlet from intake and cooler hoses? Did you check? Theres an oil splashing all over those inlet pipe and down to the front steering electronic component
For mods no, u can make right under 450wheel on a gen1 b58 with just a downpipe and a tune, n55 u need chargepipe, intercooler, and downpipe to safely go stage 2, and will still be making less power. I just bought a used gen1 2017 b58 powered 440i for 24k, with 50k miles which is worth the price difference in the b58 to n55, I’d spend the extra couple grand, now gen2 b58s are a completely different story as they are around 40k, then a n55 would be the obvious option money wise, comparing oranges to apples at that point
Darn, I don’t have towing, that was hard to find in 2019. I DO have a whining noise when the vehicle is warmed up and low speeds whining. They replaced the front differential and no improvement. Also, I noticed I cannot do the oil measurement as it has an error just before 20%. The whining is from the front, I’m hoping not oil pump 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ I’m under warranty and it goes back next week
@@ScottSellsSoCal The oil reading is the biggest red flag. You need to stop driving and get that serviced ASAP. I see you're scheduled for service. Hopefully they got it taken care of under warranty.
U must have open check book 😊 full engine service preventive maintenance, parts alone are at least $500.00 and up with out labor cost . Not trying to disrespect you some of us could can afford but we are a little smart . If I’m going to spend that much then I should go with Lexus suv sorry for my respond .
The fix for the coolant consumption are insane and not true. Most of these issues are correct but my car has 0 oil and coolant consumption and 0 blow by. A lot of BMW problems can be avoided by learning about your engine and being proactive with maintenance. Also didn’t mention PCV which is also a problem for most untouched b58s
It's nothing compared to previous N54/N55 engines. There are a few problems that are good to know about, look out for or prevent as an owner or future owner, though.
Why does everyone who has only put a few thousand miles on their personal car always give it praise for not having issues? You've only put 8k miles on it since your ownership...I would HOPE it can at least do that few of miles without having issues. Talk to us after 80k miles and lets see how reliable it has been. Or 180k miles...will it even survive that long without a major failure? Doubt it.
My 22' M340i has been a dream. At 31k miles and I am already thinking of a warranty ending. Going to purchase from Lease end due to a good reputation. At 70k miles, I should be satisfied and ready to let it go.
Thank goodness they are so cheap to buy and maintain 😂 It makes perfect sense to buy them after seeing what could go wrong. Each time I get an itch I just look at my bank account and instantly get back to reality.
Actually, BMW is ranked as the 7th most reliable auto company out of 20+ companies selling vehicles in the US, according to Consumer Reports magazine. Since their collaboration with Toyota before the introduction of the Supra, BMW's reliability has steadily climbed. Also, in one of CR's recent issues, BMW is now ranked #1 overall regarding: Quality Performance Efficiency Reliability Interior Infotainment Ride comfort and interior quietness
@@Likethetacosauce The ranking was published recently (2024). I don't think they re-rank more than once per year. I subscribe to their monthly magazines.
@@davepaturno4290They literally rate reliability of a brand new car with 0 age and 0 miles, lmaooo. The newer ones are plagued with ridiculously expensive coolant leaks. Once they start to age.
@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth Of course they rate new vehicles. If the generation is new, CR holds back rating the vehicle until they accumulate sufficient data.
Smug BMW shill: "...but like any engine...." 300,000 mile Acura: "hold my beer" I was raving about this engine as well but if they wanted to take heat insulation seriously then they wouldn't use an aluminum block. An iron block (as seen with 2JZ) would probably be the solution to every problem.
Acura? Does not drive anywhere close to a b58 equipped BMW, not even in the same league. 300k Acura how many times have you had to replace the transmission? lol
@@james10165 The power steering pump broke once, and now at >400k last I heard [he] wasn't driving it anymore. My guess is the transmission finally crapped out. But okay, [his] formerly owner E39 530 did drive a little better than his 2011 TL, but the Acura definitely drove better than an E60 5 series 🤮. His E39 once needed a new alternator, and then there was a dead cylinder. And then something else happened and that's when he got the Acura TL shortly after. He said he'd never buy another BMW ☠️😂
Tell us you're stupid enough to pay someone else over $100/hour to work on your car without telling us, bro. These engines are made for automotive enthusiasts. Unfortunately, they are also sold to elitist schmucks like yourself who use them as a status symbol then complain about reliability any time basic maintenance has to be performed. You seem like the type...
Absolute BS. If change the oil every 5k and do the maintenance as prescribed, you should get 200k out of the motor. I did out of an S52 and the incredible S54. That is with countless runs on the Tail of the Dragon, cross country trips and track days.
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Check out my BMW X7 reliability video: th-cam.com/video/tmXHNBBSop4/w-d-xo.html
Bimmer tech chiming in, the oil pump issue mostly contained to cars with the B58B30M1, and more specifically the early G05 X5's.
B58 is rock solid, and a superb engine. Still nice to see your comprehensive list of possible problems
Rock solid?
Honda's turbo engines dilute oil like crazy and toyota's been up to their necks in recalls lately. Standards all around are plummeting, even among brands known for their "reliability". Comparatively the b58 doesn't sound all that bad given what you're getting for the cost
Rock solid 😂 did u watch the same vid
@@Stinky-pinkys The video where he states he had zero issues with his engine? These have been out 10 years; of course there's going to be a list of potential issues.
@@TrevForPresident zero issues in 8k miles? WOW what a miracle! Let's hear from him in 80k or 180k miles.
Probably a better engine than 80% of car makes, but people still want to crap on it.
Not crapping on it at all! As I said in the video, it’s a great engine. However, it does have issues and if we stay informed, we may be able to prevent some of those issues or at least be on a look out so a small issues doesn’t cause a lot of damage
As an ex BMW owner, everyone thinks BMW owners are idiots. Never quite understood the blanket stereotype but I do see many rotten apples in BMWs.
@@SimpleCarGuy loved the video. Only meant that most people don’t even try to understand how good these engines area
@@SimpleCarGuyI think the commenter was referring to people/haters in general, not you or this useful video.
I experienced the coolant leak from "Water Pump" so I totally verify your content. Thanks.
Did you change the water pump
My wife’s water pump was leaking at 35k miles on her x5
😮@@Ryan-rp1es
My car is on 120000miles and i have had zero issues related to the engine and my car has been tuned from new and i drive it extremely hard have even done track days.
That’s great to hear! Thank you for your feedback.
What’s your year and model?
What year and model
dope..
My car is 2017 and it does 0-100km/h in 3.08 second video on my channel
Incredible video! So much detail and straight to the pointt, thank man. Love the b58 engine and it's good to see that it's not too many issues!
I believe the X7 has the B58 gen3 and that one i heard has been having some issues
I think a lot of these issues today are being engineered in by design cost, like plastic covers, water pumps etc, we know they have a much shorter shelf life and can’t hold up to a decade of extreme heat cycles and subsequent gasket leaks. The best engineered cars are behind us today, it’s a great shame.
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Some failures are due to poor/infrequent servicing. Oil deterioration is a common thread. Sticking to annual or 12k mile BMW service schedule with OEM parts will certainly help. Suspect that when many if these cars are out of warranty, they also stop getting serviced to BMW spec. Had BMWs for 20 years and use BMW servicing. BMW discount parts by up to 40% for older cars. The total cost of servicing and convenience of using BMW is worth the uplift - an uplift that won't be as high if prevents failures. I have a 2017 540i stage 1 MHD, that still take to main dealer for servicing. I let it warm up (oil temp warm) rag it, then drive calmly for 10m+ to cool. Sometimes put heating to max with AC off and windows open. Brake pads/disks and tyres get from a reputable independent.
Nah mate should have said b58tu2 as gen 1 b58s has less of this issue.
Your comment about the plastic oil pump parts help me decide not to by a used BMW, thank you and this is a fantastic video. My N52 had a plastic water pump impeller and failed on a vacation.
There is nothing wrong with a used BMW. Buy a Certified Pre Owned (CPO) comes with a warranty and it's extendable to give you the piece of mind. I would never buy any car brand new.. loses value way too fast the first 2-3 years
This is great video
I’m currently looking to buy BMW 840 4door but now I’m stuck I don’t know what to do. From everything I have been reading B58 is robust engine but I am concerned about oil pump.
Thanks for making this video
Get a 2020 BMW 840i.
Avoid 2021-2024 due to mild hybrid recalls.
Go for the 2020 since it had a revised metal oil pump, stronger parts and a non 48v mild hybrid.
Trust me, my 2020 840i GC is above 100k miles with no issues. I recommend oil change every 3-5k miles and coolant changes once or twice a year.
@@lorenzo9036 whats mild hybrid recall?
Some mild hybrids cause water pump explosions due to the 48v battery acting faulty being connected to the coolant pump.
Just traded mine in at 67k
Only problem was upper radiator hose was replaced and codes
134F04 Valvetronic, adjustment range:
Error bounds checking
135401 Valvetronic, Overload Protection
190302 tank-venting and purge air
Feinstleck: leakage Greater Than 0, 5 mm
12AD01 Lambda probe after catalytic converter: Signal Firmly lying on skimmed
I deleted the codes and put back on the original catalytic converter b4 trade in
Was still under extended warranty nevertheless
Always get a good warranty on German cars
🤙Very Good Information bro......Thank you 🙏
only problem with my 540i(2017) with 130k km / 80k~ miles was the coolant leaks through the radiator which eventually made me change the radiator entirely(500-600 to replace OE part). that's the only thing I had to replace outside basic maintenance (oil, filters, brakes and brake fluid). Oh and 1 small motor for headlights washer
There does seem to be a relation between engine reliability and the amount of plastic used in engine construction.
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I have an x7. Love the engine and hate everything else about it. The active grill failed. One led for the front headlight went out. The center row is automatic and not manual, and the seats easily fail and are very difficult to fix.
Any videos on how to clean/ replace vanos solenoid on the X7? It seems easy to clean/ replace
Great video very informative! I was thinking about a Rang Rover or this so I’m coming to a decision. Thanks.
This is the 3rd gen B58. Different than Supra/M340i/M240i B58
How about the transfer case issue. Seems to be systematic to X7’s so may be worth mentioning?
Thanks! I will do a video on the X7 specific items, this was specific to the B58 engine
@@SimpleCarGuythanks! Great video, looking forward to others.
You forgot the plastic oil filter housing that melts and blows up the engine 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Really? I haven’t heard of this one, should do some research!
@@SimpleCarGuy Yes. It is made out of plastic, starts to melt, and can push cooling fluid into the oil. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Sounds like a winner!
This makes the n55 sound more reliable
Nice video BIG UP !
Great Video, Great Colour and Great interior- I have an X5 M Sport Xdrive 40i Phytonic Blue with the same interior as you! I am running 22 inch rims, but noticed that you have a higher profile tyre on your rims- I am looking to change rims and tyres, Would it be too much trouble if you can tell me the rim size and tyre size you are using??
How many miles you have on your x7 and what year is it
Been watching all your videos on this car. Seems like your satisfied with this car completely.
I’m planing to get into this same car (40i)
Planing to take it to 100k 120k miles and do all the maintenance that I can on my own.
Just like you, we don’t mind getting our hands dirty.
For the amount of money Ima spend on a Acura MDx
I rather throw it on a x7.
And parts are very similar in price surprisingly.
Feel like I’ll Get more money worth in a x7 then a mdx.
What’s your overall opinion with your beautiful x7
I got it with 45000 miles (I think) and we are close to 60000 miles now. I've been pretty happy with the car other than a few quirks I've mentioned in the "I complain about my BMW X7" video.
I'd say you get a lot more of the money with the X7. I drove the MDX and a few others similar models, but the X7 was the most fun to drive and felt the most quiet luxury inside and out, which I prefer.
People get caught in $1000 services as the dealer will charge you $200 to change the filter, but If you don't mind doing some of the maintenance and work yourself, it's a great car!
Do you have an oil leak around turbo inlet from intake and cooler hoses? Did you check? Theres an oil splashing all over those inlet pipe and down to the front steering electronic component
There’s normally some oil there no matter what and in the charge pipe but it shouldn’t be a leak or making a huge mess
How often do you change the oil filter?
Why does your list not include the x5 50e when I believe it’s the same engine can u confirm
Sounds like N55 is more DIY friendly than B58. Is that a correct take? That oil pump issue is an engine out. No?
For mods no, u can make right under 450wheel on a gen1 b58 with just a downpipe and a tune, n55 u need chargepipe, intercooler, and downpipe to safely go stage 2, and will still be making less power. I just bought a used gen1 2017 b58 powered 440i for 24k, with 50k miles which is worth the price difference in the b58 to n55, I’d spend the extra couple grand, now gen2 b58s are a completely different story as they are around 40k, then a n55 would be the obvious option money wise, comparing oranges to apples at that point
How do you know if your G05 bmw has upgraded cooling package?
If you have the factory towing package, you should have upgraded brakes and cooling
Darn, I don’t have towing, that was hard to find in 2019. I DO have a whining noise when the vehicle is warmed up and low speeds whining. They replaced the front differential and no improvement. Also, I noticed I cannot do the oil measurement as it has an error just before 20%.
The whining is from the front, I’m hoping not oil pump 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I’m under warranty and it goes back next week
@@ScottSellsSoCal The oil reading is the biggest red flag. You need to stop driving and get that serviced ASAP. I see you're scheduled for service. Hopefully they got it taken care of under warranty.
Great video
WHERE does one get a HIGH QUALITY VALVE COVER (GASKET) for this suv? Why does BMW sell these suv with an inferior VALVE COVER GASKET
Don’t forgot injectors become stuck open causes piston failure usually 1 or 6
Does anybody have information about the hybrid versions of b58? Like in x5 45e
they're too new
good job in mentioning the Vanos Solenoids! +plus for you buddy!
Nice video. How can I determine if my 2018 540i has the B58TU engine?
I think searching the vin
gen 1 b58 has cross hatching on intake manifold, and gen 2 has circles
U must have open check book 😊 full engine service preventive maintenance, parts alone are at least $500.00 and up with out labor cost . Not trying to disrespect you some of us could can afford but we are a little smart . If I’m going to spend that much then I should go with Lexus suv sorry for my respond .
I was told to change oil every year or 11000 miles, but this feels way too long. Any advice out there for a new bmw owner...
Every 5k
Agree with 5k if you car about your car and want it to last
So do you still have your i3 with this new to you X7
Yes, I do! I got the X7 for my wife. I still drive the Z4 and the i3
The fix for the coolant consumption are insane and not true. Most of these issues are correct but my car has 0 oil and coolant consumption and 0 blow by. A lot of BMW problems can be avoided by learning about your engine and being proactive with maintenance. Also didn’t mention PCV which is also a problem for most untouched b58s
They now have released a PCV kit that just replaces the PCV itself not the whole valve cover like older models so it's cheaper to replace.
My Supra has 30 k miles and had oil in the spark plugs 🤦♂️
This video started by saying it’s one of BMW most reliable engines then proceeds to explain how unreliable it is for 10 straight minutes 😂
It's nothing compared to previous N54/N55 engines. There are a few problems that are good to know about, look out for or prevent as an owner or future owner, though.
Welcome to TH-cam😂
Why the hell to move the time belt to rear side. As of make life deliberately problematic
Why does everyone who has only put a few thousand miles on their personal car always give it praise for not having issues? You've only put 8k miles on it since your ownership...I would HOPE it can at least do that few of miles without having issues. Talk to us after 80k miles and lets see how reliable it has been. Or 180k miles...will it even survive that long without a major failure? Doubt it.
There is people who drive these cars with these engines over 200k kms and not major issues
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu my 2017 M240I does not want to check its own oil. I'll be calling the stealership Monday. :( I LOVE the car though.
Bmw checked it out and said it was ok..... I hope they are right.
@@zeake13take it to a different different dealer. Oil level check failure is 100% bad pump.
@@Ryan-rp1es or the oil sensor...
@@LionHeart567 possible, but those sensors don’t go bad often. The oil pump is a known problem on the early b58’s
My 22' M340i has been a dream. At 31k miles and I am already thinking of a warranty ending. Going to purchase from Lease end due to a good reputation. At 70k miles, I should be satisfied and ready to let it go.
Beautiful review. Love it. I still would not recommend purchasing any BMW with more than 50,000 miles on it.
B58 is a great engine some cars have been hit 200,000 miles (it’s a new engine so not a lot of cars have it it yet)
@@93Coupes It still feels new.. doesn't it? The B58 released in 2015, 9 years ago now.
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Ur an excellent presenter
Sorry but all this makes me want to keep my N55.
N55 is a gigantic piece of shit plagued with issues
Oil consumption!
Don't really have oil consumption.
All turbo cars have oil consumption. He'll, my father is a subaru tech and he says even n/a subies burn oil. It's pretty universal nowadays
b58tu gen 3 has a lot of other issues. Author is just clueless.
lets see in 6-7 years
Gen1 B58 has been around since 2016, Gen2 since 2020… there’s been more than enough time to see how these engines hold up
@@realiize ok I want one
Thank goodness they are so cheap to buy and maintain 😂 It makes perfect sense to buy them after seeing what could go wrong. Each time I get an itch I just look at my bank account and instantly get back to reality.
BMWs are not for those people with light wallets. Subaru WRX and Honda Civic are nice and cheap for your taste
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@@SupraSavyou’re right, they make people’s wallets lighter. That’s what they do
gen 2 have more problems then gen 1
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The moral of the story is, don’t buy a piece of shit BMW lol I had one before the fucking nightmare
Actually, BMW is ranked as the 7th most reliable auto company out of 20+ companies selling vehicles in the US, according to Consumer Reports magazine. Since their collaboration with Toyota before the introduction of the Supra, BMW's reliability has steadily climbed. Also, in one of CR's recent issues, BMW is now ranked #1 overall regarding:
Quality
Performance
Efficiency
Reliability
Interior
Infotainment
Ride comfort and interior quietness
@@davepaturno4290i think that ranking has change and that they are higher up now
@@Likethetacosauce The ranking was published recently (2024). I don't think they re-rank more than once per year. I subscribe to their monthly magazines.
@@davepaturno4290They literally rate reliability of a brand new car with 0 age and 0 miles, lmaooo. The newer ones are plagued with ridiculously expensive coolant leaks. Once they start to age.
@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth Of course they rate new vehicles. If the generation is new, CR holds back rating the vehicle until they accumulate sufficient data.
Smug BMW shill: "...but like any engine...."
300,000 mile Acura: "hold my beer"
I was raving about this engine as well but if they wanted to take heat insulation seriously then they wouldn't use an aluminum block. An iron block (as seen with 2JZ) would probably be the solution to every problem.
Acura? Does not drive anywhere close to a b58 equipped BMW, not even in the same league. 300k Acura how many times have you had to replace the transmission? lol
@@james10165 The power steering pump broke once, and now at >400k last I heard [he] wasn't driving it anymore. My guess is the transmission finally crapped out.
But okay, [his] formerly owner E39 530 did drive a little better than his 2011 TL, but the Acura definitely drove better than an E60 5 series 🤮.
His E39 once needed a new alternator, and then there was a dead cylinder. And then something else happened and that's when he got the Acura TL shortly after. He said he'd never buy another BMW ☠️😂
What do you think of B58 gen 1?
🥸Disposable product because they don’t want it to last past 100k miles to sell you another and for used car buyers to buy parts.
must be a BMW, lol.
Tell us you're stupid enough to pay someone else over $100/hour to work on your car without telling us, bro.
These engines are made for automotive enthusiasts. Unfortunately, they are also sold to elitist schmucks like yourself who use them as a status symbol then complain about reliability any time basic maintenance has to be performed.
You seem like the type...
@wally6193 must be any modern product. But we'll keep buying the garbage and the companies will keep finding ways to fuck us
Not true my N54 has lasted almost 140k miles and I’ve seen N55s with 300k miles. Most bmw owners I know buy parts from FCP euro not the dealer.
Absolute BS. If change the oil every 5k and do the maintenance as prescribed, you should get 200k out of the motor.
I did out of an S52 and the incredible S54. That is with countless runs on the Tail of the Dragon, cross country trips and track days.